Re: Are SeaMonkey always late with their updates after Firefox's updates?

[Ant]

On 8/28/2012 10:38 PM PT, MCBastos typed:


By the way, Seamonkey 2.12 is available now. I'm using it already.


Wow, that wasn't too bad. Not even a day yet. "Yipee." --Young Anakin 
Skywalker. :)

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Re: In Box Messages Show up Blank

[Daniel]

TMitchell wrote:

Daniel wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

The messages in my In Box suddenly started opening up totally blank.
Messages in all other mail folders open normally.

Any ideas?


Hasn't happened to me, but I think someone here a couple of days ago
said they closed SeaMonkey, deleted inbox.msf, restarted SeaMonkey and
all was o.k. when a new inbox.msf was created.

Worth a try, maybe.


I deleted the "inbox.msf" file, and now no mail messages (headers or
anything at all) appear in the Inbox.  Worse, the deleted file did not
show up in the Recycle Bin, so I could not restore it.

Any other ideas anyone?


Tim, have you had a look at your settings under the "View" dropdown??

They may have been reset. I have my mail account set as

Sort by Date, Ascending, Threaded
MessagesAll
Threads All

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[linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

[NoOp]

Will a seamonkey-2.12.complete.mar be built for 64bit linux so that
64bit machines can be updated rather than having to download directly?

Note: crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
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Re: Are SeaMonkey always late with their updates after Firefox's updates?

[Jens Hatlak]

MCBastos wrote:

1. Seamonkey has no paid staff. So, there might not be anyone available
to do the commits at the precise time Firefox is released -- people have
their day jobs, after all.

2. Also, for the same reason (less people/time available) it might take
a bit longer to finish the release process.


This. Solely.

Basically, release binaries are finished the previous day already (it's 
the same for FF and the reason why some media announce release 
availabilities early) so that the (FTP) mirrors are have the files in 
time. It's only the automatic updates and website changes that are 
activated/pushed on release day. That part is a manual process, and as 
you explained, we got day jobs (though different release management 
members in different time zones).


HTH

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inporting email from thunderbird

[Smiles]

I have a new client using XP with service pack 1
to do any work on it I have had to reinstall and update it to service pack 3

the problem we have is she admits to only having a few to a dozen emails

her profile is

F:\Profiles\vjbt7xq8.default\Mail\pop.cogeco.ca\
   ===
   Drafts   125698 KB
   Drafts.msf1 KB
   Inbox 15350 KB
   Inbox.msf 2 KB
   msgFilterRules.dat1 KB
   popstate.dat 18 KB
   Sent  27325 KB
   Sent.msf  1 KB
   Trash 1 KB
   Trash.msf 1 KB

the sent, drafts, trash are empty
inbox has 2 emails

I will compact it but is there a way of recovering emails

deleting the msf files does not show any more when it rebuilds the inbox

thanks
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SeaMonkey 2.12

[Paul Bergsagel]

So far this has been a good update. I performed the update from the menu 
item "Check for updates". 24" iMac (late 2006) 10.7.4 Lion.


Many thanks to all the programmers who have made SeaMonkey 2.12 possible.
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SM won't see Captcha images

[Libertarian Lilly]

One of these recent versions of SM screwed up my ability to see Captcha 
images when I need to use them. Now I don't see the images at all.

I have to open Internet Explorer to do whatever I need, so I can see the 
Captcha images.

Is Moz aware of this, or is there some setting I need to fix?

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Re: inporting email from thunderbird

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/08/2012 20:38, Smiles told the world:
> I have a new client using XP with service pack 1
> to do any work on it I have had to reinstall and update it to service pack 3
> 
> the problem we have is she admits to only having a few to a dozen emails
> 
> her profile is
> 
> F:\Profiles\vjbt7xq8.default\Mail\pop.cogeco.ca\
> ===
> Drafts   125698 KB
> Drafts.msf1 KB
> Inbox 15350 KB
> Inbox.msf 2 KB
> msgFilterRules.dat1 KB
> popstate.dat 18 KB
> Sent  27325 KB
> Sent.msf  1 KB
> Trash 1 KB
> Trash.msf 1 KB
> 
> the sent, drafts, trash are empty
> inbox has 2 emails
> 
> I will compact it but is there a way of recovering emails
> 
> deleting the msf files does not show any more when it rebuilds the inbox
> 
> thanks
> Smiles

I'm not sure what you are asking about. If you want to recover the
deleted messages from Drafts, Inbox and Sent -- yes, it's probably
possible. The mail folder files are just big plaintext files -- if you
load them into a plaintext editor (one that is able to handle large
files, that is) the old emails are plainly visible. This page gives a
bit more detail on the internal structure:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder

To undelete them takes a bit more work. This Mozillazine post gives some
ways to do it:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Undelete_a_message

And this one gives the nitty-gritty details about the all-important
X-Mozilla-Status field:

http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html?en

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Re: SM won't see Captcha images

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Libertarian Lilly wrote:

> One of these recent versions of SM screwed up my ability to see Captcha
> images when I need to use them. Now I don't see the images at all.
> 
> I have to open Internet Explorer to do whatever I need, so I can see the
> Captcha images.
> 
> Is Moz aware of this, or is there some setting I need to fix?

Do you have an example page or two where this situation occurs for you?

What version of SeaMonkey?

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Re: inporting email from thunderbird

[Chris Ilias]

On 12-08-29 7:38 PM, Smiles wrote:

I have a new client using XP with service pack 1
to do any work on it I have had to reinstall and update it to service
pack 3

the problem we have is she admits to only having a few to a dozen emails

her profile is

F:\Profiles\vjbt7xq8.default\Mail\pop.cogeco.ca\
===
Drafts   125698 KB
Drafts.msf1 KB
Inbox 15350 KB
Inbox.msf 2 KB
msgFilterRules.dat1 KB
popstate.dat 18 KB
Sent  27325 KB
Sent.msf  1 KB
Trash 1 KB
Trash.msf 1 KB

the sent, drafts, trash are empty
inbox has 2 emails

I will compact it but is there a way of recovering emails

deleting the msf files does not show any more when it rebuilds the inbox


This page has instructions on importing for Thunderbird:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12

[Rufus]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

So far this has been a good update. I performed the update from the menu
item "Check for updates". 24" iMac (late 2006) 10.7.4 Lion.

Many thanks to all the programmers who have made SeaMonkey 2.12 possible.


It does seems snappier...however, bug #743463 and bug #724293 remain 
broken.  I've updated the bugs to reflect/include.


This is a bit of a surprise, because it seemed the team had a handle on 
this/these - related to invoking of the Profile Manager on start up as I 
recall.


The partial fix of the restore from Minimized to Dock problem is still 
working, though.


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Ubuntuzilla

[Cruz, Jaime]

Looks like they got it all straightened out.  I ran the installation 
script, and I got 2.1.1.  When I ran the Software update, it pulled down 
and installed 2.1.2.


It's good to be up to date again on Ubuntu.

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Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Interges]

During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012 shows a red 
alert about the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high risk 
"Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".

Seems that Norton erase this dll, and as result ( I think that ) all tries to 
enter in pages HTTPS shows a Mozilla alert about a suspicious certificate or 
conexion.

With this, all tries to log in so normal pages like Facebook od Linkedin, shows 
TEXT PAGES, without the HTML composition ant images. Only vertical links and 
text. You can add this certificate ( dangerous because Mozilla doesn't know the 
Origin or property of the certificate ! ). Onces of these pages can be well 
showed later, but other ones not.

I tried to update again from the HELP menu, but appears the message "There were 
problems... " "Archivo XML de Actualizacion mal formado (200)" Translated, 
something like "Update XML file bad constructed (200)".

I reinstall manually from your page, but the Norton send the same problem, and 
the result is the same. Now I have to write this message from Internet 
Explorer, because including this grpoup page is understand for your browser as 
a dangerous conexion.

Where are the serious old developers please ??? Return again pleaseee 
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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Cruz, Jaime]

Interges wrote:

During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012 shows a red alert about 
the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high risk "Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".

Seems that Norton erase this dll, and as result ( I think that ) all tries to 
enter in pages HTTPS shows a Mozilla alert about a suspicious certificate or 
conexion.

With this, all tries to log in so normal pages like Facebook od Linkedin, shows 
TEXT PAGES, without the HTML composition ant images. Only vertical links and 
text. You can add this certificate ( dangerous because Mozilla doesn't know the 
Origin or property of the certificate ! ). Onces of these pages can be well 
showed later, but other ones not.

I tried to update again from the HELP menu, but appears the message "There were problems... " 
"Archivo XML de Actualizacion mal formado (200)" Translated, something like "Update XML file 
bad constructed (200)".

I reinstall manually from your page, but the Norton send the same problem, and 
the result is the same. Now I have to write this message from Internet 
Explorer, because including this grpoup page is understand for your browser as 
a dangerous conexion.

Where are the serious old developers please ??? Return again pleaseee 

I wouldn't blame Seamonkey.  Norton AntiVirus has been a MAJOR POS ever 
since Symantec bought it from Peter Norton ages ago.  I wouldn't want 
that bloatware anywhere NEAR any PC that I own.  Unfortunately I'm 
forced to use it at the office where it is the "Corporate Standard" and 
the litany of problems I've had with it are too long to get into here. 
I've seen enough to know it's only gotten worse than better.


If you run Windows, get Microsoft Security Essentials.  It's far better, 
less obtrusive, is integrated into Windows and best of all, it's FREE.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Edmund]

Interges wrote:
> During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012 shows a red 
> alert about the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high risk 
> "Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".
> 
> Seems that Norton erase this dll, and as result ( I think that ) all tries to 
> enter in pages HTTPS shows a Mozilla alert about a suspicious certificate or 
> conexion.
>

Why are you blaming SeaMonkey for something which a 3rd party (in this
case, Norton) did?  Shouldn't you contact Norton that it's flagging a
dll file as false positive?  If Norton deleted a dll, then SeaMonkey
is bound to react to it in a bad way.

Or am I missing something in your message that says it's actually
SeaMonkey's fault?


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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Interges wrote:
> During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012 shows a red 
> alert about the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high risk 
> "Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".

Unfortunately sometimes the Major Virusscan vendors misidentify part(s)
[or all] of SeaMonkey as containing a Virus.

When in doubt you can check out https://www.virustotal.com/ and upload
the installer there. In the future we'll be signing our installer, which
may help prevent these types of problems from the Vendors that we have
no control over, depending on how they implement their virus scanning.

For example, in my own version of Norton Internet Security, it did *not*
flag SeaMonkey, so I'm not sure what the real cause is on your end, but
VirusTotal.com returns the following for me, with our 2.12 english build.

And in fact, with this build, it does NOT find a single virus, with all
of the virusscan vendors. [1]

So steps forward for you,
(a) Make sure your Virus Software is fully up to date: the Software
itself as well as the Virus Definition Files
(b) Make sure your System is up to date with its security updates.
(c) Reinstall SeaMonkey from scratch from our Website [since you claimed
that Norton deleted the file you need]
(d) If you still have problems with your software, either disable it as
you install, or whitelist our product. The exact steps vary from
software to software, and even version to version. -- If you need help
ask your resident System Administrator/techie relative.

You should end up with a completely working SeaMonkey, at no fault of
the SeaMonkey team.

[1] -
https://www.virustotal.com/file/c3fb29b25db93dbcc508a916e78e443c00a5b2405417ea43962b53fe62fdd115/analysis/

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Re: SM won't see Captcha images

[David E. Ross]

On 8/29/12 5:42 PM, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> One of these recent versions of SM screwed up my ability to see Captcha 
> images when I need to use them. Now I don't see the images at all.
> 
> I have to open Internet Explorer to do whatever I need, so I can see the 
> Captcha images.
> 
> Is Moz aware of this, or is there some setting I need to fix?
> 

1.  On the menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
[Privacy & Security > Images].

What is your setting for Image Acceptance Policy?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[David E. Ross]

On 8/29/12 8:03 PM, Interges wrote:
> During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012
> shows
a red alert about the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high risk
"Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".
> 
> Seems that Norton erase this dll, and as result ( I think that ) all
tries to enter in pages HTTPS shows a Mozilla alert about a suspicious
certificate or conexion.
> 
> With this, all tries to log in so normal pages like Facebook od
Linkedin, shows TEXT PAGES, without the HTML composition ant images.
Only vertical links and text. You can add this certificate ( dangerous
because Mozilla doesn't know the Origin or property of the certificate !
). Onces of these pages can be well showed later, but other ones not.
> 
> I tried to update again from the HELP menu, but appears the message
"There were problems... " "Archivo XML de Actualizacion mal formado
(200)" Translated, something like "Update XML file bad constructed (200)".
> 
> I reinstall manually from your page, but the Norton send the same
problem, and the result is the same. Now I have to write this message
from Internet Explorer, because including this grpoup page is understand
for your browser as a dangerous conexion.
> 
> Where are the serious old developers please ??? Return again pleaseee
> 

As I recall, Norton does not actually delete malware files.  Instead, it
places them in a special folder where they cannot cause problems.

In this case, the file is NOT malware.  You should be able to recover
the file from Norton and restore it to where it belongs.  Then, you
should set Norton to whitelist the file.

In any case, this is entirely a Norton error as others have alread cited.

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Re: [linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

NoOp wrote:
> Will a seamonkey-2.12.complete.mar be built for 64bit linux so that
> 64bit machines can be updated rather than having to download directly?
> 
> Note: crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
> 

Unfortunately, not by us for 2.12. Getting updates generated/generating
for linux64 is on our TODO list, however.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


Interges wrote:

During the update of Seamonkey 2.12 in Spanish, the Norton 2012
shows a red alert about the nssckbi.dll library, taked as a high
risk "Suspicious.CLoud.7.F".


Unfortunately sometimes the Major Virusscan vendors misidentify
part(s) [or all] of SeaMonkey as containing a Virus.

When in doubt you can check out https://www.virustotal.com/ and
upload the installer there. In the future we'll be signing our
installer, which may help prevent these types of problems from the
Vendors that we have no control over, depending on how they implement
their virus scanning.

For example, in my own version of Norton Internet Security, it did
*not* flag SeaMonkey, so I'm not sure what the real cause is on your
end, but VirusTotal.com returns the following for me, with our 2.12
english build.

And in fact, with this build, it does NOT find a single virus, with
all of the virusscan vendors. [1] ...


This was my experience as well -- nary a peep from Norton, as usual.

Of course, I wasn't installing the Spanish version.

Don't know why the OP would blame SeaMonkey for Norton's mistake.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Interges]

I expected to receive responses from profesionals to find sollutions.I am 
wasting a lot of time because of an update not required.

If your proposals are to change the protection, when we are speaking about one 
of the market leading products, I will not waste time to explain you that if 
this happened to me can happen to millions of users worldwide. If you live out 
of the real world... please, continue.

For the rest, yes, the Norton is updated, and yes, Windows is correctly 
updated. And about if the problem is in my computer, the response is that 
Norton didn't show alerts like this since this XP was mounted as new, and that 
this alert only appears during the 2.12 upgrade. More clues ?

About to change to Microsoft protection, I prefer to don't reply. If you don't 
see the difference...

About to put the Seamonkey in the white list... please, are you proposing to 
put the browser as a program that will not be tested searching viruses and 
attacks ???!!! Because tu put it in that list is to order the firewall that it 
does not review it's activities. Fantastic.

Justin, David, yes, I can recover the dll from the backup. But nobody has 
explained the real cause. A high alert is a very serious warning. And as 
developer, I would be very nervious about this. Because, or Norton will try to 
annoy my browser, or something very rare is in my 2.12 dll. And if the problem 
is from Norton, this false positive would need a very hard comentary to them.

I have sended the file to Symantec, but seems that nobody more concerned about 
doing things as they should. Fix the problem causing the alert. This is the 
thing really disturbing.

I expect that this will be a FALSE, and not a real security problem of this dll 
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Re: SM won't see Captcha images

[Libertarian Lilly]

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"   wrote :

> Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> 
>> One of these recent versions of SM screwed up my ability to see Captcha
>> images when I need to use them. Now I don't see the images at all.
>> 
>> I have to open Internet Explorer to do whatever I need, so I can see the
>> Captcha images.
>> 
>> Is Moz aware of this, or is there some setting I need to fix?
> 
> Do you have an example page or two where this situation occurs for you?

Not at the moment, but it appears as a regular web page, only the captcha 
image is absent. The box where it says to enter what you see, is there, only 
the image is absent. Must have something to do with code, as it shows up in 
Internet Explorer.

> What version of SeaMonkey?

Latest for Win 7.

 

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Re: SM won't see Captcha images

[Libertarian Lilly]

"David E. Ross"   wrote :

> On 8/29/12 5:42 PM, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>> One of these recent versions of SM screwed up my ability to see Captcha 
>> images when I need to use them. Now I don't see the images at all.
>> 
>> I have to open Internet Explorer to do whatever I need, so I can see the 
>> Captcha images.
>> 
>> Is Moz aware of this, or is there some setting I need to fix?
>> 
> 
> 1.  On the menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].
> 
> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
> [Privacy & Security > Images].
> 
> What is your setting for Image Acceptance Policy?
> 

Load all images, and as many times as specified.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Interges]

Very nice !

I reinstal the 2.12 update with Norton stoped and the update was fine. After 
this, I start the Norton again, and when I start the Seamonkey... THE NORTON 
SENDED THE ALERT AGAIN, AND DELETED THE DLL !!!

Very well tested. Who use Norton are so few in the world this is a so rare 
situation... Be ready for a wave !
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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[Philip TAYLOR]

I can understand your annoyance, Interges, which arises
because of your lack of understanding; you write :


Fix the problem causing the alert. This is the thing really disturbing.


but how would you propose that the Seamonkey developers "fix"
the DLL so that it does not trigger this alert from Symantec-Norton ?
Either the DLL contains a virus, or it does not. Virustotal reports
that it does not.  Therefore the probability is very very high
that it does not.  Therefore there is nothing that the Seamonkey
developers can do to "fix" the problem as it is not of their making.

Symantec-Norton, on the other hand, /can/ fix the problem: send
them the offending DLL, tell them that their software reports
it as suspicious, and ask them to perform a more rigorous analysis.
When they have done so, and if they find it benign (as they almost
certainly will), they will then fix their software and the problem
will go away.  Until they have done so, revert to an earlier version
of Seamonkey and turn off auto-updates.

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