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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Sorry, why don't you just expand the browser (tab) screen to use the
entire display screen??

Or am I not understanding you, Geoff??


It's best described in analogy:

my parents and grandparents always had the TV on while they were reading
a book.  They were multi-media-taskers before their time.

I now watch "tv" and look at web sites, and read news, all on my Mac
simultaneously.  When I come across something I want to see, whilst I
still read something else, the video goes to the big screen, very
quickly...if I can pull out a tab, like in FF

I realize that if Tabs were never invented I'd just have windows I could
drag aroundbut I got used to tabs years ago...and now FF and Chrome
let you pull out a tabit's nifty, and useful to me,

I'm at least glad I have some good discussions on the topic even if most
SM groupies (so far) don't like the idea
GW




Whatever rocks your boat!!

(As I watch Mythbusters!!)

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 2:02 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

(I'm on Mac)

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?

Currently SM creates a bookmark-shortcut icon on the desktop if you
drag
out a tab.  that seemed like a great feature back in the days where
most
people had yet to understand the concept of a web browser, being
used to
view web sites, but the FF action seems more useful to me in 2012.

GW



Changing the behavior of the user interface often generates many
adverse
comments and end-user unhappiness.  What you need is a new capability
without destroying the old one.

Michael Gordon is correct.  This could be an option.  I would never
use
the option since I am quite used to dragging from the address area
(URI
bar).



Oops!!  I hit send too soon.

I would never use the option since I am quite used to dragging from the
address area (URI bar) to create shortcuts and using tabbed browsing in
place of mutliple windows.  I never drag from a tab.



Same here - particularly for Bookmarking; I simply drag the url from the
Taskbar to where I want it in the Bookmarks Tab in the Sidebar.

Besides, I prefer to use Tabs instead of windows...I'd likely *never*
use the option.



Don't know if I'm reading this right, and not having used the Bookmarks
tab in the Sidebar, so .

Of recent, when I want to file a Web Address under a particular
grouping, I've been using the "File Bookmark" on the "Bookmarks"
drop-down



Yeah...I used to do that too, until I learned I could drag and drop.  If
you open the Bookmarks Tab in the Sidebar you can simply drag the url
into it and drop at the location you'd like to have it Filed.

Much faster.



Oh you speed demon, you!! Chill!!

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Re: Sidebar scrollbar

2012-11-27 Thread Rufus


Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/27/2012 6:30 PM:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/27/2012 11:26 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:24 AM:

Is it possible to adjust the width of the sidebar's vertical
scrollbar
using CSS?  If so does anyone know the proper code?


There's no clean way that I'm aware for the SM default theme since it
uses system scrollbars but this should work for any themes that style
their own scrollbars like Modern or a number of others:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 10px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 10px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}

Note: You can change width/height to your liking and it only works
cleanly with CSS3 versions of SM.



Thanks much!  I'll try this tomorrow after some sleep and an eye
doctor
exam tomorrow ... once the drops wear off and I can see again.



Awesome!  Thanks so much.

One odd thing:

http://edmullen.net/temp/cap_scroll.jpg

Notice the area under the scrollbar.  It should be all gray but only
the original default width is gray - the area to its right is white.
I poked around with the DOM Inspector but couldn't figure out anything.


Hmm, using the values I detailed above, here's what I'm seeing:

http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/gif/sidebar.gif

Are you using the SM Modern theme?



Yes, Modern theme.  But!  My original query arose from my annoyance
that the sidebar default scrollbar is too narrow ... narrower than the
main window's.  And too small for my liking.  Here are my parameters
based on your input ...

scrollbarbutton {
width: 15px;
height: 10px;
max-width: 20px;
max-height: 10px;
background-size: contain;
}

So, enlarging the width to 15px solved my main complaint.  The sidebar
scrollbar is now (apparently) the same width as the main window's.

But, something in that CSS isn't altering the underlying background
... or something.  The DOM Inspector is, to me, highly impenetrable
God bless you if you can figure it out.


ah, for that, this should work:

scrollbarbutton {
width: 15px;
height: 10px;
max-width: 20px;
max-height: 10px;
background-size: contain;
}

slider {
background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
background-size: contain;
}




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Re: Sidebar scrollbar

2012-11-27 Thread Sailfish

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 
11/27/2012 6:30 PM:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/27/2012 11:26 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:24 AM:
Is it possible to adjust the width of the sidebar's vertical 
scrollbar

using CSS?  If so does anyone know the proper code?


There's no clean way that I'm aware for the SM default theme since it
uses system scrollbars but this should work for any themes that style
their own scrollbars like Modern or a number of others:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 10px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 10px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}

Note: You can change width/height to your liking and it only works
cleanly with CSS3 versions of SM.



Thanks much!  I'll try this tomorrow after some sleep and an eye doctor
exam tomorrow ... once the drops wear off and I can see again.



Awesome!  Thanks so much.

One odd thing:

http://edmullen.net/temp/cap_scroll.jpg

Notice the area under the scrollbar.  It should be all gray but only
the original default width is gray - the area to its right is white.
I poked around with the DOM Inspector but couldn't figure out anything.


Hmm, using the values I detailed above, here's what I'm seeing:

http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/gif/sidebar.gif

Are you using the SM Modern theme?



Yes, Modern theme.  But!  My original query arose from my annoyance that 
the sidebar default scrollbar is too narrow ... narrower than the main 
window's.  And too small for my liking.  Here are my parameters based on 
your input ...


scrollbarbutton {
width: 15px;
height: 10px;
max-width: 20px;
max-height: 10px;
background-size: contain;
}

So, enlarging the width to 15px solved my main complaint.  The sidebar 
scrollbar is now (apparently) the same width as the main window's.


But, something in that CSS isn't altering the underlying background ... 
or something.  The DOM Inspector is, to me, highly impenetrable  God 
bless you if you can figure it out.



ah, for that, this should work:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 15px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 20px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

slider {
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}


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Re: Sidebar scrollbar

2012-11-27 Thread Ed Mullen


Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/27/2012 11:26 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:24 AM:

Is it possible to adjust the width of the sidebar's vertical scrollbar
using CSS?  If so does anyone know the proper code?


There's no clean way that I'm aware for the SM default theme since it
uses system scrollbars but this should work for any themes that style
their own scrollbars like Modern or a number of others:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 10px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 10px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}

Note: You can change width/height to your liking and it only works
cleanly with CSS3 versions of SM.



Thanks much!  I'll try this tomorrow after some sleep and an eye doctor
exam tomorrow ... once the drops wear off and I can see again.



Awesome!  Thanks so much.

One odd thing:

http://edmullen.net/temp/cap_scroll.jpg

Notice the area under the scrollbar.  It should be all gray but only
the original default width is gray - the area to its right is white.
I poked around with the DOM Inspector but couldn't figure out anything.


Hmm, using the values I detailed above, here's what I'm seeing:

http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/gif/sidebar.gif

Are you using the SM Modern theme?



Yes, Modern theme.  But!  My original query arose from my annoyance that 
the sidebar default scrollbar is too narrow ... narrower than the main 
window's.  And too small for my liking.  Here are my parameters based on 
your input ...


scrollbarbutton {
width: 15px;
height: 10px;
max-width: 20px;
max-height: 10px;
background-size: contain;
}

So, enlarging the width to 15px solved my main complaint.  The sidebar 
scrollbar is now (apparently) the same width as the main window's.


But, something in that CSS isn't altering the underlying background ... 
or something.  The DOM Inspector is, to me, highly impenetrable  God 
bless you if you can figure it out.


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Re: Font change in SM 2.14

2012-11-27 Thread WaltS


On 11/27/2012 06:23 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Richard Tasker wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the font in SM 2.14 is smaller and less
distinct than previously?

All the text shown (menus, sidebar, email, email list, etc) is
affected. The browser content is fine.


Check the Windows section under Known Issues on
. Maybe it helps.

HTH

Jens


I though with these fast track updates we were not supposed to have
bugs. :-)



As of yesterday there were 16 users of the Aurora build which I believe 
was updated to Beta today.


http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2012-11-26

Do you really think that is enough users to test builds and find the 
bugs before release? Become a tester.


There were 143,779 active installations of SeaMonkey on 11/26/2012.

https://metrics.mozilla.com/stats/seamonkey.shtml

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Re: Font change in SM 2.14

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Tasker


Jens Hatlak wrote:

Richard Tasker wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the font in SM 2.14 is smaller and less
distinct than previously?

All the text shown (menus, sidebar, email, email list, etc) is
affected.  The browser content is fine.


Check the Windows section under Known Issues on 
. Maybe it helps.

HTH

Jens




Yes, this fixes it (Workaround: Toggle gfx.content.azure.enabled to false in about:config).  I had already checked the 
Known Issues but obviously I missed this.


Thanks,  RET
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Re: 2.14 address book

2012-11-27 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj


Jens Hatlak wrote:

question wrote:

Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry

  Once I enter an E-mail in the first line.
Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A
BLANK PAGE . All address are gone


This is a known issue, see
. Unfortunately the
regression was not caught before the release. In case there'll be a 2.14.1, the
fix would probably be included, otherwise in 2.15.

HTH

Jens


I'm holding off on 2.14 hoping that there is a 2.14.1 to fix all the things
that user testing of the 2.14 release has now revealed.
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Re: Font change in SM 2.14

2012-11-27 Thread PhillipJones


Jens Hatlak wrote:

Richard Tasker wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the font in SM 2.14 is smaller and less
distinct than previously?

All the text shown (menus, sidebar, email, email list, etc) is
affected. The browser content is fine.


Check the Windows section under Known Issues on
. Maybe it helps.

HTH

Jens

I though with these fast track updates we were not supposed to have 
bugs. :-)


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Re: Setting Helper Applications

2012-11-27 Thread NoOp

On 11/27/2012 03:31 AM, Daniel wrote:
> SeaMonkey Internet Suite on MandrivaLinux 2009 -
> 
> I want to set SeaMonkey to open *.xlsx files with OpenOffice. When I go 
> into Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and locate "xlsx 
> File", it's set to "Always Ask", but I want to change it to use 
> OpenOffice, but when I try, I must be selecting the wrong file to use as 
> the Helper Applications screen continues to show "Always ask".
> 
> How do I set the correct Helper??
> 
> TIA
> 

Click on the xlsx file. When you get 'Open With', select 'Other'. Browse
to your soffice shell (not soffice.bin) and click. Then check the 'Do
this automatically for files...'. Now test again & the file should open
in OOo (read only as it is /tmp).  You can set it back to 'Always Ask'
in Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications>Microsoft Excel
Worksheet (application/vnd.openxmlformats...)

I used this file to test:

[test file]

Origination:

[Wiki page]
originated from here:

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh


Jens Hatlak wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?


Not sure about "ever", but hardly not any time soon. No-one is currently
working on it.

If you look at bug 102132, you'll see that the request is old (from
2001), with many comments and duplicates, but no progress. In 2010, bug
449728, I even gave it a try myself but quickly gave up when I saw how
complex (both regarding size and difficulty) the implementation was.

Greetings,

Jens


Thanks for the info, Jens
GW
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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Jens Hatlak


Geoff Welsh wrote:

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?


Not sure about "ever", but hardly not any time soon. No-one is currently 
working on it.


If you look at bug 102132, you'll see that the request is old (from 
2001), with many comments and duplicates, but no progress. In 2010, bug 
449728, I even gave it a try myself but quickly gave up when I saw how 
complex (both regarding size and difficulty) the implementation was.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Font change in SM 2.14

2012-11-27 Thread Jens Hatlak


Richard Tasker wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the font in SM 2.14 is smaller and less
distinct than previously?

All the text shown (menus, sidebar, email, email list, etc) is
affected.  The browser content is fine.


Check the Windows section under Known Issues on 
. Maybe it helps.


HTH

Jens

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Re: 2.14 address book

2012-11-27 Thread Jens Hatlak


question wrote:

Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry

  Once I enter an E-mail in the first line.
Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A
BLANK PAGE . All address are gone


This is a known issue, see 
. 
Unfortunately the regression was not caught before the release. In case 
there'll be a 2.14.1, the fix would probably be included, otherwise in 2.15.


HTH

Jens

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Re: Sidebar scrollbar

2012-11-27 Thread Sailfish

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on 
11/27/2012 11:26 AM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:24 AM:

Is it possible to adjust the width of the sidebar's vertical scrollbar
using CSS?  If so does anyone know the proper code?


There's no clean way that I'm aware for the SM default theme since it
uses system scrollbars but this should work for any themes that style
their own scrollbars like Modern or a number of others:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 10px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 10px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}

Note: You can change width/height to your liking and it only works
cleanly with CSS3 versions of SM.



Thanks much!  I'll try this tomorrow after some sleep and an eye doctor
exam tomorrow ... once the drops wear off and I can see again.



Awesome!  Thanks so much.

One odd thing:

http://edmullen.net/temp/cap_scroll.jpg

Notice the area under the scrollbar.  It should be all gray but only the 
original default width is gray - the area to its right is white.  I 
poked around with the DOM Inspector but couldn't figure out anything.



Hmm, using the values I detailed above, here's what I'm seeing:

http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/gif/sidebar.gif

Are you using the SM Modern theme?

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread PhillipJones


Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Sorry, why don't you just expand the browser (tab) screen to use the
entire display screen??

Or am I not understanding you, Geoff??


It's best described in analogy:

my parents and grandparents always had the TV on while they were reading
a book. They were multi-media-taskers before their time.

I now watch "tv" and look at web sites, and read news, all on my Mac
simultaneously. When I come across something I want to see, whilst I
still read something else, the video goes to the big screen, very
quickly...if I can pull out a tab, like in FF

I realize that if Tabs were never invented I'd just have windows I could
drag aroundbut I got used to tabs years ago...and now FF and Chrome
let you pull out a tabit's nifty, and useful to me,

I'm at least glad I have some good discussions on the topic even if most
SM groupies (so far) don't like the idea
GW


I go you one better. I don't like and never have like tabs. The waste 
memory resources.
I'm not nor have I ever been a multitask-er as far a computers go. I 
prefer one window at the time. If I need to go back I just progress back 
to appropriate window.


Sure in some cases, I have the TV while using computer. But I do it to 
drown out the quiet. I can't seem think straight and concentrate in a 
Perfectly quiet room. This goes back to school days. I did my worse 
school work in the Library. My mind tends to wander in a quiet Room So 
when I am on the Computer if you ask me what's on the TV I couldn't tell 
you.


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Re: 2.14 address book

2012-11-27 Thread Ed Mullen


Geoff Welsh wrote:

question wrote:

Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry

  Once I enter an E-mail in the first line.
Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A
BLANK PAGE . All address are gone

Win 7   SeaMonkey 2.14

Did this also in the previous Version ... But Not before that .


I can attest that happens to me too, and a thread started last week on
the topic.  Scroll back several days.  No fix yet IIRC
GW


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814770

The thread was on 11/23 titled "Address book"

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Re: Sidebar scrollbar

2012-11-27 Thread Ed Mullen


Ed Mullen wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:24 AM:

Is it possible to adjust the width of the sidebar's vertical scrollbar
using CSS?  If so does anyone know the proper code?


There's no clean way that I'm aware for the SM default theme since it
uses system scrollbars but this should work for any themes that style
their own scrollbars like Modern or a number of others:

scrollbarbutton {
   width: 10px;
   height: 10px;
   max-width: 10px;
   max-height: 10px;
   background-size: contain;
}

thumb {
   background-size: contain;
}

Note: You can change width/height to your liking and it only works
cleanly with CSS3 versions of SM.



Thanks much!  I'll try this tomorrow after some sleep and an eye doctor
exam tomorrow ... once the drops wear off and I can see again.



Awesome!  Thanks so much.

One odd thing:

http://edmullen.net/temp/cap_scroll.jpg

Notice the area under the scrollbar.  It should be all gray but only the 
original default width is gray - the area to its right is white.  I 
poked around with the DOM Inspector but couldn't figure out anything.


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Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions

2012-11-27 Thread LMH


Richard Tasker wrote:

LMH wrote:

What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it
set to open the email window. If I open the browser
window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that
this is still the same session. Session only cookies
are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed.
Is it necessary to close the entire SM
application, or switch users, to create a new session?

Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as
my home page. When I open my browser, I get a
prompt to set a cookie. I select, "allow for session", and check the
"use every time" check box, but every time I open
my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I
also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set
this to "block" and "use every time", but I get that request ever time
I open my browser as well.

LMH


You do have to close everything to end a session.

RET


Any idea as to why my cookie permissions are disappearing? If I click on 
"allow for session" and "use every time", I still get these prompts the 
next time I visit the site (if I have closed out SM between visits). I 
looked in the cookie permissions and the entry for the domain is missing.


1. open SM and log into a profile
2. open the browser
3. go to google.com
4. I get a permission request to set a cookie
5. select "allow for session" and "use every time"
6. these permissions are now in the data manager under google.com
7. close seamonkey
8. open SM and log into a profile
9. open the browser
10. open the data manager
11. there is no longer any cookie permissions entry for google.com
12. go to google.com
13. same cookie requests as before

It would appear is if the cookie permissions are being deleted when the 
session cookie expires, which defeated the purpose of "use every time". 
This is happening with sites other than google as well.


My overall settings under Preferences > Privacy and Security are,
Allow cookies from originating site only
Ask for each cookie, except session cookies

This page has changed a bit over time. I would like to be prompted for 
each cookie, but I would like the permissions to stay in place so I 
don't have to re-set them every time I visit every site. This has always 
worked well, so either something has changed and I don't understand the 
settings, or there is a bug.


LMH


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Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions

2012-11-27 Thread LMH


Richard Tasker wrote:

LMH wrote:

What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it
set to open the email window. If I open the browser
window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that
this is still the same session. Session only cookies
are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed.
Is it necessary to close the entire SM
application, or switch users, to create a new session?

Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as
my home page. When I open my browser, I get a
prompt to set a cookie. I select, "allow for session", and check the
"use every time" check box, but every time I open
my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I
also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set
this to "block" and "use every time", but I get that request ever time
I open my browser as well.

LMH


You do have to close everything to end a session.

RET


Any idea as to why my cookie permissions are disappearing? If I click on 
"allow for session" and "use every time", I still get these prompts the 
next time I visit the site (if I have closed out SM between visits). I 
looked in the cookie permissions and the entry for the domain is missing.


1. open SM and log into a profile
2. open the browser
3. go to google.com
4. I get a permission request to set a cookie
5. select "allow for session" and "use every time"
6. these permissions are now in the data manager under google.com
7. close seamonkey
8. open SM and log into a profile
9. open the browser
10. open the data manager
11. there is no longer any cookie permissions entry for google.com
12. go to google.com
13. same cookie requests as before

It would appear is if the cookie permissions are being deleted when the 
session cookie expires, which defeated the purpose of "use every time". 
This is happening with sites other than google as well.


My overall settings under Preferences > Privacy and Security are,
Allow cookies from originating site only
Ask for each cookie, except session cookies

This page has changed a bit over time. I would like to be prompted for 
each cookie, but I would like the permissions to stay in place so I 
don't have to re-set them every time I visit every site. This has always 
worked well, so either something has changed and I don't understand the 
settings, or there is a bug.


LMH


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Re: Sidebar width

2012-11-27 Thread Ed Mullen


Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ed Mullen graced us with on
11/25/2012 11:28 AM:

The following placed in userChrome.css works in Firefox to remove the
default maximum width for the sidebar:

#sidebar { max-width: none !important; }

It does not work in SeaMonkey.  Anyone have a solution?

TIA



Maybe:

#sidebar-box { max-width: none !important; }



PERFECT!  Thanks!

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Font change in SM 2.14

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Tasker


Has anyone else noticed that the font in SM 2.14 is smaller and less distinct 
than previously?

All the text shown (menus, sidebar, email, email list, etc) is affected.  The 
browser content is fine.

SM 2.13 was fine.

I cannot find any way to change it and it is pretty annoying as my eyes aren't as good as they used to be (age does 
that...).


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Re: question about sessions, cookies, and permissions

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Tasker


LMH wrote:

What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set to 
open the email window. If I open the browser
window, close the browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is 
still the same session. Session only cookies
are still present, even though the browser has been opened and closed. Is it 
necessary to close the entire SM
application, or switch users, to create a new session?

Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my home 
page. When I open my browser, I get a
prompt to set a cookie. I select, "allow for session", and check the "use every 
time" check box, but every time I open
my browser I get the same prompt asking if that cookie can be set. I also get a 
cookie request from id.google.com. I set
this to "block" and "use every time", but I get that request ever time I open 
my browser as well.

LMH


You do have to close everything to end a session.

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mbox handling messed up in SeaMonkey 2.14?

2012-11-27 Thread Michael Ströder

Jens Hatlak wrote:
> The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.14:

After the update I'm experiencing some weird effects on my Inbox files (mbox).
Subjects and messages are messed up. Were there significant changes to the
relevant code?

I'm using mail filters to move messages from my IMAP inbox automatically to
the Inbox file in local folders. Any problem with that?

Ciao, Michael.
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question about sessions, cookies, and permissions

2012-11-27 Thread LMH

What exactly constitutes a session? When I open seamonkey, I have it set 
to open the email window. If I open the browser window, close the 
browser, and open it again, it would appear that this is still the same 
session. Session only cookies are still present, even though the browser 
has been opened and closed. Is it necessary to close the entire SM 
application, or switch users, to create a new session?


Also, my cookie permissions seem to be disappearing. I use google as my 
home page. When I open my browser, I get a prompt to set a cookie. I 
select, "allow for session", and check the "use every time" check box, 
but every time I open my browser I get the same prompt asking if that 
cookie can be set. I also get a cookie request from id.google.com. I set 
this to "block" and "use every time", but I get that request ever time I 
open my browser as well.


LMH
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Re: 2.14 address book

2012-11-27 Thread Ray_Net


Geoff Welsh wrote, On 27/11/2012 10:21:

question wrote:

Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry

  Once I enter an E-mail in the first line.
Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A
BLANK PAGE . All address are gone

Win 7   SeaMonkey 2.14

Did this also in the previous Version ... But Not before that .


I can attest that happens to me too, and a thread started last week on 
the topic.  Scroll back several days.  No fix yet IIRC

GW
Stop using adress book  i had tested a modification of an entry - 
and pouf !!! the entry dissapeared :-(

so i will never test again.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14 released

2012-11-27 Thread NFN Smith


Cruz, Jaime wrote:



Any idea when it'll be available on Ubuntuzilla?




Never mind, I see it is available this morning.





Finally!

I notice also that Joe Lesko has 2.14 available in the PPA at Launchpad.

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Rufus


Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 2:02 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

(I'm on Mac)

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?

Currently SM creates a bookmark-shortcut icon on the desktop if you
drag
out a tab.  that seemed like a great feature back in the days where
most
people had yet to understand the concept of a web browser, being
used to
view web sites, but the FF action seems more useful to me in 2012.

GW



Changing the behavior of the user interface often generates many
adverse
comments and end-user unhappiness.  What you need is a new capability
without destroying the old one.

Michael Gordon is correct.  This could be an option.  I would never use
the option since I am quite used to dragging from the address area (URI
bar).



Oops!!  I hit send too soon.

I would never use the option since I am quite used to dragging from the
address area (URI bar) to create shortcuts and using tabbed browsing in
place of mutliple windows.  I never drag from a tab.



Same here - particularly for Bookmarking; I simply drag the url from the
Taskbar to where I want it in the Bookmarks Tab in the Sidebar.

Besides, I prefer to use Tabs instead of windows...I'd likely *never*
use the option.



Don't know if I'm reading this right, and not having used the Bookmarks
tab in the Sidebar, so .

Of recent, when I want to file a Web Address under a particular
grouping, I've been using the "File Bookmark" on the "Bookmarks" drop-down



Yeah...I used to do that too, until I learned I could drag and drop.  If 
you open the Bookmarks Tab in the Sidebar you can simply drag the url 
into it and drop at the location you'd like to have it Filed.


Much faster.

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Re: winmail.dat

2012-11-27 Thread Ant


On 11/26/2012 2:15 PM PT, User typed:


how do I open a winmail.dat file sent to me with SeaMonkey


ou can usr this online tool: http://www.winmaildat.com/


Careful if it is a sensitive file. Who knows what the host does with the 
uploads. ;)




Or you can download and install a program that will open them...


This is a better idea. ;-)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14 released

2012-11-27 Thread Cruz, Jaime


Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:



>> 


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.14
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/

Greetings,

Jens



Any idea when it'll be available on Ubuntuzilla?




Never mind, I see it is available this morning.


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Re: Setting Helper Applications

2012-11-27 Thread Cruz, Jaime


Daniel wrote:

SeaMonkey Internet Suite on MandrivaLinux 2009 -

I want to set SeaMonkey to open *.xlsx files with OpenOffice. When I go
into Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and locate "xlsx
File", it's set to "Always Ask", but I want to change it to use
OpenOffice, but when I try, I must be selecting the wrong file to use as
the Helper Applications screen continues to show "Always ask".

How do I set the correct Helper??

TIA

I asked a similar question about a month ago.  The answer is: "You 
can't."  It is a reported bug, though.



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Re: Any idea when 2.14 will be available via Ubuntuzilla?

2012-11-27 Thread Cruz, Jaime


Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Noticed it still has 2.13.2 up there...



Ah, I see it is available this morning!

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh


Daniel wrote:


Sorry, why don't you just expand the browser (tab) screen to use the
entire display screen??

Or am I not understanding you, Geoff??


It's best described in analogy:

my parents and grandparents always had the TV on while they were reading 
a book.  They were multi-media-taskers before their time.


I now watch "tv" and look at web sites, and read news, all on my Mac 
simultaneously.  When I come across something I want to see, whilst I 
still read something else, the video goes to the big screen, very 
quickly...if I can pull out a tab, like in FF


I realize that if Tabs were never invented I'd just have windows I could 
drag aroundbut I got used to tabs years ago...and now FF and Chrome 
let you pull out a tabit's nifty, and useful to me,


I'm at least glad I have some good discussions on the topic even if most 
SM groupies (so far) don't like the idea

GW


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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 2:02 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

(I'm on Mac)

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?

Currently SM creates a bookmark-shortcut icon on the desktop if you
drag
out a tab.  that seemed like a great feature back in the days where
most
people had yet to understand the concept of a web browser, being
used to
view web sites, but the FF action seems more useful to me in 2012.

GW



Changing the behavior of the user interface often generates many adverse
comments and end-user unhappiness.  What you need is a new capability
without destroying the old one.

Michael Gordon is correct.  This could be an option.  I would never use
the option since I am quite used to dragging from the address area (URI
bar).



Oops!!  I hit send too soon.

I would never use the option since I am quite used to dragging from the
address area (URI bar) to create shortcuts and using tabbed browsing in
place of mutliple windows.  I never drag from a tab.


Agreeing with all posters so far that the optional-choice behaviour is
best.
Like
tabs.dragged.out.make.shortcut true/false
tabs.dragged.out.make.new-window true/false

I love tabs, but when I find a good video feed inside a new tab, I like
to drag it out to my extra screen (LCD TV) and watch it there, which is
far more  convenient than backing-up, and reopening a good link in a new
window.

Anyway, it's default in FF, so "must be"? right around the corner for SM.
GW


Sorry, why don't you just expand the browser (tab) screen to use the 
entire display screen??


Or am I not understanding you, Geoff??

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Re: minimum OSX level is now 10.6?

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


Geoff Welsh wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 26/11/2012 08:03, Geoff Welsh told the world:


and Netscape 4.7 (Mozilla 1.2 ??) on Classic OS is still great for
mail/News!


Netscape 4.7 is actually pre-Mozilla. Mozilla 1.0 is equivalent to
Netscape 7.


thanks for the correction, I'd have to unpack the iMac G3 to see what
versions of what I had...so I guessed and put "??"
GW


But, hang on, wasn't the section with-in Netscape that actually 
developed/produced Netscape Suite called Mozilla, or the alpha/beta 
codes were called Mozilla, or some such??


Cross-posted, and follow-up, set to moz.general.

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Setting Helper Applications

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


SeaMonkey Internet Suite on MandrivaLinux 2009 -

I want to set SeaMonkey to open *.xlsx files with OpenOffice. When I go 
into Edit->Preferences->Browser->Helper Applications and locate "xlsx 
File", it's set to "Always Ask", but I want to change it to use 
OpenOffice, but when I try, I must be selecting the wrong file to use as 
the Helper Applications screen continues to show "Always ask".


How do I set the correct Helper??

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh


David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 2:02 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

(I'm on Mac)

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?

Currently SM creates a bookmark-shortcut icon on the desktop if you drag
out a tab.  that seemed like a great feature back in the days where most
people had yet to understand the concept of a web browser, being used to
view web sites, but the FF action seems more useful to me in 2012.

GW



Changing the behavior of the user interface often generates many adverse
comments and end-user unhappiness.  What you need is a new capability
without destroying the old one.

Michael Gordon is correct.  This could be an option.  I would never use
the option since I am quite used to dragging from the address area (URI
bar).



Oops!!  I hit send too soon.

I would never use the option since I am quite used to dragging from the
address area (URI bar) to create shortcuts and using tabbed browsing in
place of mutliple windows.  I never drag from a tab.


Agreeing with all posters so far that the optional-choice behaviour is best.
Like
tabs.dragged.out.make.shortcut true/false
tabs.dragged.out.make.new-window true/false

I love tabs, but when I find a good video feed inside a new tab, I like 
to drag it out to my extra screen (LCD TV) and watch it there, which is 
far more  convenient than backing-up, and reopening a good link in a new 
window.


Anyway, it's default in FF, so "must be"? right around the corner for SM.
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Re: minimum OSX level is now 10.6?

2012-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh


MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 26/11/2012 08:03, Geoff Welsh told the world:


and Netscape 4.7 (Mozilla 1.2 ??) on Classic OS is still great for
mail/News!


Netscape 4.7 is actually pre-Mozilla. Mozilla 1.0 is equivalent to
Netscape 7.

thanks for the correction, I'd have to unpack the iMac G3 to see what 
versions of what I had...so I guessed and put "??"

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Re: 2.14 address book

2012-11-27 Thread Geoff Welsh


question wrote:

Address book works Fine if you use it for the First Entry

  Once I enter an E-mail in the first line.
Then click the 2nd line and Choose Address Book, THE ADDRESS BOOK IS A
BLANK PAGE . All address are gone

Win 7   SeaMonkey 2.14

Did this also in the previous Version ... But Not before that .


I can attest that happens to me too, and a thread started last week on 
the topic.  Scroll back several days.  No fix yet IIRC

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Re: Pulling a tab to make a new window

2012-11-27 Thread Daniel


Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 8:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/12 2:02 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

(I'm on Mac)

Dragging a tab to the desktop, thus creating a new window, is a neat
feature in FF (and Chrome, btw).

Will SM ever implement this?

Currently SM creates a bookmark-shortcut icon on the desktop if you
drag
out a tab.  that seemed like a great feature back in the days where
most
people had yet to understand the concept of a web browser, being
used to
view web sites, but the FF action seems more useful to me in 2012.

GW



Changing the behavior of the user interface often generates many adverse
comments and end-user unhappiness.  What you need is a new capability
without destroying the old one.

Michael Gordon is correct.  This could be an option.  I would never use
the option since I am quite used to dragging from the address area (URI
bar).



Oops!!  I hit send too soon.

I would never use the option since I am quite used to dragging from the
address area (URI bar) to create shortcuts and using tabbed browsing in
place of mutliple windows.  I never drag from a tab.



Same here - particularly for Bookmarking; I simply drag the url from the
Taskbar to where I want it in the Bookmarks Tab in the Sidebar.

Besides, I prefer to use Tabs instead of windows...I'd likely *never*
use the option.



Don't know if I'm reading this right, and not having used the Bookmarks 
tab in the Sidebar, so .


Of recent, when I want to file a Web Address under a particular 
grouping, I've been using the "File Bookmark" on the "Bookmarks" drop-down


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