Re: Have times changed ?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 27 janvier 2019, à 16:54, DoctorBill a écrit :

Long story short - can I STILL do that ?  Everything is changing so fast !


Have this open source jewel: https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
Extremely powerful *and* extremely easy: download the Windows executable, 
use it in a "command" window by typing

  youtube-dl.exe "http...url/to/video"
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Re: Seamonkey stupid

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 avril 2018, à 10:16, EE a écrit :


Mozillian wrote:

 Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

 hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

 I have to retype the whole thing.


What does n=message mean?


My guess: wrongly hit N instead of M (for message) (qwerty keyboard), then 
wrongly hit "=" instead of backspace, then proceed with "message", lastly 
be so angry as not to check your message before posting!


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Re: Extension: Download YouTube Videos

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 16 mars 2018, à 15:18, David E. Ross a écrit :


The Download YouTube Videos extension no longer seems to work.  I think
this is a result of a change done at YouTube and not something in either
SeaMonkey or the extension.  The Web page in addons.mozilla.org
indicates the developer has removed the extension.

There is a work-around using Video LAN (VLC) from
.

(...)

Use the force: https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

Multi-platform, brainless, updated very frequently, worked on all sites 
I've tried (not only Youtube, but also TV channels replay sites, and 
more).


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Re: Retrieving directory hierarchy of website

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 2 mars 2018, à 09:35, Richard Owlett a écrit :


By a convoluted set of links, I arrived at


That page did not have the specific details I wanted, but suggested that the 
next level up, , would be valuable. 
Many of the listed folders and documents will be.


I clicked on "Parent Directory" wishing a list of sister directories of 
<.../packaging-manuals>. Instead I got an HTML with lots of link. But what I 
want to see is the structure of the site, NOT content of individual pages. I 
read about spiders but they are content oriented.


Suggestions?


Some reading:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4496182/getting-directory-listing-over-http
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4010158/is-it-possible-to-get-a-list-of-files-under-a-directory-of-a-website-how

The accepted answer in the first of these links may do what you want (but 
read all answers in both links, FYI).


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Re: [half-solved] Re: How to remoce a proposal of a text-input zone of a form.

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 15 février 2018, à 17:31, Ray_Net a écrit :


Ray_Net wrote on 15-02-18 17:08:

 Hi !
 In a form I filled a field with "44101937945" and then once I typed "4"
 now he offers me both - how to remove the second proposal "4" from the
 list ?

 Deleting cookies doesnot work.



I say "half-solved" because I found the way to remove the second proposal.
When the second proposal is high-lighted - just click on the "delete" key.

So far, so good.
The question is: Where is located this list or proposals ?


about:data > Domain "*" > Tab "Form Data"

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Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 23 décembre 2017, à 00:47, Hartmut Figge a écrit :


Richard Owlett:


I received a link to a youtube video
 which played fine.

I did not have time to watch the whole video.
How can I download and save it?


For Gentoo there is the package youtube-dl. Last update a few days ago.
If it is not on Debian, you will probably have to compile the source
yourself.


+1 for youtube-dl. You don't even have to compile! You can download the 
executable right from the author's website (it seems to be precompiled 
Python code).



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Re: Problem on http://fr.viamichelin.be/ using SM 2.49.1

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 5 décembre 2017, à 09:24, Ray_Net a écrit :


Ray_Net wrote on 05-12-17 09:15:

 Ray_Net wrote:


 Hello,
 I just upgraded from 2.46 to 2.49.1 and I have a problem with:
 http://fr.viamichelin.be/
 [User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1]
 You may test by yourself:
 Enter a town in zone "A" and another town in zone "B" then click on the
 "RECHERCHER" button.
 Nothing happens except the map is greyed and if the mouse is not over
 the "RECHERCHER" button the mouse pointer is not an arrow but is an
 animated circle (saying "wait, until i finish") I am under Windows10.

 It looks like SM is in a loop, but no extra cpu involved.

 Last step: (normally not needed)

 To be able to break the loop and to get the itinerary displayed on the
 map (with distance and time) I must click on the SM "Reload" button.

 It works correctly without a loop and therefore no need of the last step
 when I use: FireFox [57.0 (64-bit)]


 I still have the problem after a reboot and disabling Adblock+, Firebug
 and true-full-screen-in-semonkey.

 What can I do to pinpoint and solve the problem ?



Here is what i see and deduce.
After I click on the "RECHERCHER" button, the loop begin, but the url is 
changed and the status bar show "Done" and the Seamonkey tumbnail à 
upper-right side is not animated.
It looks like that SM forgot to send the modifier url ... looks like and 
automatic reload of the modified url is not performed.
A manual reload must be used. What is the reason why the "auto-reload" is not 
done ?




I reproduce your problem (on www.viamichelin.fr also, which is not very 
surprising :-)).


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


However it works OK with a fresh profile. So there is some setting 
interfering, but which one? My prefs.js has over 2500 lines...


If you have time, you can try to find the culprit by dichotomy (I can 
explain if you don't know how to do this).


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Re: WEB Ctrl D

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 août 2017, à 18:01, Ray Davison a écrit :
The default used to be tree open.  At some point it changed to tree closed, 
but someone posted how to set a switch to tree open.  And so I did, but now I 
have lost it.


I found this in my userChrome.css, which, although it doesn't have effect 
in my 2.40 SM, may give you a starting point for a web search...


#editBMPanel_folderTreeRow {
collapsed: false ! important;
moz-collapsed: false ! important;
visibility: visible ! important;
}


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Re: THANKS A LOT - Re: BIG IMAGE

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 27 janvier 2017, à 19:32, Mason83 a écrit :


Would you say "presque mieux" is equivalent to
"presque aussi bien/bon" ?


No. There is an intended, amusing contradiction in "presque mieux", just 
as in "almost better". This somehow says "it is better but I dare not say 
it is".



So, if "X est presque mieux que Y", then X is in fact not
as good as Y; is that correct?


Rather: you were not expecting X to be as good as Y, but it turns out to 
be as good, or maybe even slightly better.


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Re: Resurrecting an old theme

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 décembre 2016, Roger Fink a écrit :

In case anybody else has saved a copy, the Mostly Crystal theme works 
perfectly on this upgrade to 2.46, even after many years of lying dormant.


Nice to hear that.


I only had to update install.rdf.


I think I set max version once and for good, to 2.99.* or so. :-)

JMO of course, but I've always considered Mostly Crystal to be THE best of 
the "traditional GUI" themes for SeaMonkey,


+1!

The woman who created it, whose screen name I've forgotten but who used 
to post on this board, got a little frustrated with Mozilla and closed 
it down. It would be great if someone devised a way, with her assent, to 
keep it current and make it an ongoing offering (or the default theme) 
for this browser


"CatThief" according to the addon manager. Alas the site (tom-cat.com) has 
been discontinued. The last time I visited it (a few years ago) it said 
the theme was *not* publicly licensed. I guess we're not even entitled to 
edit install.rdf in theory...


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Re: Adblocker Problems With Seamonkey

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 16 septembre 2016, Ant a écrit :


On 9/16/2016 7:07 AM, Michael wrote:

 I use Adblock Plus with SeaMonkey but sometimes the ads don't go away
 unless the page is refreshed. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling
 the extension and still have the problem.

 With Firefox I have used Adblock Plus,Adblock Lite and Adblocker
 Ultimate with no problems , but the last two extensions are not
 available for SeaMonkey.

 Is the problem with my installation of SeaMonkey ? Also can someone
 recommend a similar easy to use adblocker for Seamonkey ?


I never had problems with ABP, but I switched to UBO last year. Both had no 
problems.


Where UBO stands for "uBlock Origin" :-)

I also switched to it a few months ago and am very satisfied (it's faster 
than ABP).


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Re: Mail dl Challenges in SM V 2.40.....

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 septembre 2016, SamuelS a écrit :

As of this morning, I Am having challenges with downloading email from Yahoo, 
the error message reads:


The POP3 servicer (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND XLST, 
which are required to implement the "Leave on Server", "Maximum Message Size" 
or "Fetch Headers Only' options. To download your mail, turn off these 
options in the Server Settings for your mail server in the Account Settings 
window."


Any ideas or suggestions?


You could access your email through IMAP (which has been supported by 
Yahoo for a few years). This requires creating a new account entry in SM, 
though. One note however: I'm accessing Yahoo via IMAP with a text-based 
mail software, and expunging (compacting) has a glitch whereby the index 
is not refreshed immediately; so I make sure to expunge only before I 
quit. I don't know if the glitch would affect SM.


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Re: Ad blocking add-on

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 25 juillet 2016, Paul in Houston, TX a écrit :


sleepy.zzj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having just now successfully upgraded from SM 2.33 to 2.40,

 I've been looking around to see if I can find an alternative adblocker
 but no luck so far.  Do we know of any?


I prefer uBlock Origin over adblock plus.
Don't know if it will work with your version of SM though.


I support the use of uBlock Origin, which is notably faster than Adblock 
Plus and not less efficient.

https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/seamonkey/addon/ublock-origin/?src=ss
(replace "fr" by your language code if you like)

It works with 2.40.

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Re: Planning to install a long overdue Seamonkey update

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 27 mars 2016, EE a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote:

 Le 25 mars 2016, EE a écrit :

>  SeaMonkey 2.40 does have a bug in File Bookmark.  The dialog box does
>  not change size when you pull down the folder list, which makes it
>  difficult to use.  I corrected the problem by adding code to my
>  userChrome.css file to make the dialog box longer to accommodate the
>  folder list.

 It would be nice if you shared this code!


Add to userChrome.css:
#bookmarkproperties {
min-width:770px !important; min-height:830px !important;}


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Re: Planning to install a long overdue Seamonkey update

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 25 mars 2016, EE a écrit :

SeaMonkey 2.40 does have a bug in File Bookmark.  The dialog box does not 
change size when you pull down the folder list, which makes it difficult to 
use.  I corrected the problem by adding code to my userChrome.css file to 
make the dialog box longer to accommodate the folder list.


It would be nice if you shared this code!

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Re: How to disable old Seamonkey version warning (automatic updates disabled)

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 février 2016, WaltS48 a écrit :


On 02/22/2016 05:05 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:

 The only nuisance is Google Docs complaining about a too old browser, and
 this warning keeps showing because I've set Google cookies to expire at
 the end of sessions...


What do you do when you can't use the browser on Google Docs anymore?


It works, but complains with a banner :)

For the very rare case where I'm forced to go to a site that doesn't work 
with SM 2.12, I use chromium or FF. The only site I can remember not to 
work is Adobe's.


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Re: How to disable old Seamonkey version warning (automatic updates disabled)

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 19 février 2016, Ray_Net a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote on 19/02/2016 12:01:


 However I'm running 2.12.1, maybe the banner didn't even exist back then
 ;-)

(You have a too old version, so you need those settings, but it's a very bad 
idea to no upgradre)


Hehe, I knew I would get this reaction. More recent versions break one of 
my addons (Autofill Forms, DownloadHelper, Download Statusbar) or my theme 
(Mostly Crystal), I can't remember which; even if I tweak maxVersion in 
install.rdf.


So I'm staying with 2.12.1 and use my brain. I don't browse at random, 
have ABP (a bit slow, some day I'll try µB), and run on Linux.


The only nuisance is Google Docs complaining about a too old browser, and 
this warning keeps showing because I've set Google cookies to expire at 
the end of sessions...


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Re: [OT] Re: Pour paramètres

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 17 décembre 2015, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote:


 Le 15 décembre 2015, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

>  Désolé, mais je ne parles pas bien le français...

 Oh mais si, et même mieux que beaucoup de Français !


You're too kind. No French schoolkid would make a basic mistake like "je 
parleS." But thanks anyway.


Oh yes many of them would, alas! You made only one mistake in your whole 
message when many kids or grownups would make one per line...


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Re: Pour mots de passe

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 16 décembre 2015, rogersr...@gmail.com a écrit :


Mais je ne sais pas avoir le mot de passe pour ouvrir le site ,il ne s'est pas 
mis
Comment faire pour qu'il y apparaisse


Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords, coche « Remember passwords » 
(mon SM est en anglais, tu trouveras bien dans la version française...)


Il me semble que certains sites sont codés de sorte que le mot de passe ne 
peut pas être mémorisé. Donc teste plusieurs sites pour vérifier si ça 
marche.


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[OT] Re: Pour paramètres

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 15 décembre 2015, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :


Désolé, mais je ne parles pas bien le français...


Oh mais si, et même mieux que beaucoup de Français !

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Re: Seamonkey 2.33.1 Bug

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi,

Le 29 août 2015, usususer a écrit :

When returning from Sleep, the Status Bar (at bottom of page with the
security icon and the mail icon) is missing.  Closing Seamonkey and
re-starting it returns the status bar and all is good.


What about "View > Show/Hide > Status Bar"?

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Re: Do any of My Abadnonware's games work for you in your SeaMonkey web browsers?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 21 juin 2015, Ant a écrit :


http://www.myabandonware.com/

Thank you in advance. :)


Doom does run (but awfully slowly), Stone Age doesn't. SM 2.12.1.

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Re: Misplaced a folder of important bookmarks!

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 5 juin 2015, Bill Spikowski a écrit :

Recently an important folder seems have disappeared; I can no longer find it 
in Bookmarks Manager.


I can find individual bookmarks in that folder using the search feature, so I 
know the folder hasn't been deleted -- I may have dragged it to somewhere 
else in my folder structure, but I can't find the folder.


Is there any way to figure out the LOCATION of an individual bookmark in the 
Bookmarks Manager?


Load the bookmark. Click on the bookmark icon in the address bar. Click 
"Choose" in the drop-down "Folder" list. This will highlight the 
bookmark's folder in the tree.


WFM in 2.12.1, at least.

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Re: Does this web page freeze your SeaMonkey?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 3 juin 2015, Ant a écrit :

Interesting. I don't even need to do that. I just let download the web page 
data and it freezes. Even on its home page too! I also figured out what 
causes the problem. It's AdBlock Plus. :/


By freeze, do you mean "awfully slow", or "SM is done but page is still 
incomplete"?


If the former, here's something you can try to speed up ABP. Open ABP 
Preferences, sort filters by Hits, then disable all filters with 0 hit. 
ABP with still block ads on pages you go to regularly. (If you ever 
stumble upon an unblocked ad afterwards, you can enable all filters back, 
reload the page, sort by hits again, and disable 0-hit filters again. This 
way the filter corresponding to the offending ad will be enabled for 
future browsing.)


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Re: "Previously typed addresses only" doesn't work

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 24 mars 2015, pjdkru...@gmail.com a écrit :

Firefox developers changed the mechanism for how this works and the 
SeaMonkey devs have not had a change to update the UI.  I've written up 
a guide for getting the settings back the way you want them here:


http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2920253


Thanks for the explanation & solution!

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"Previously typed addresses only" doesn't work

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi,

I've just installed 2.33 on a new PC. I want the Location bar to behave 
this way:

- propose a list of completion in a drop-down as I type;
- offered completions should be from previously typed addresses only, not 
from all history, and not from titles.


So in Prefs > Browser > Location bar I checked boxes 1, 2, 3, 5 and 
unchecked the fourth.


This doesn't work: offered completions are from all history. Is this a 
known "new" bug? It worked under 2.12.1 at least. (Note: I seldom update 
SM, so I don't know exactly when the bug appeared.)


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Re: µBlock?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 février 2015, Ant a écrit :

Thanks Ronnie. Also, why are you e-mailing me (no wonder I am getting more 
spam e-mails lately :()? Just post in public only (no need to include my 
e-mail address).


To protect yourself from such mistakes, I think you can add a Reply-To: 
pointing to the group or mailing list.


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Re: SM and Google Drive file download

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 27 novembre 2014, Poldek a écrit :

The same trouble with downloading and also uploading files from/to a website 
happens not only with Google drive.


I have another computer with the same SeaMonkey but Windows 7/64 and there 
everything works fine.


Any ideas?


A problem with extensions? Try safe mode maybe.

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Re: seamonkey, firefox, and $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so on a Scientific Linux system

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 14 mai 2014, Charles Campbell a écrit :


Hello!

I have been dropped from administration rights on this box at work, so I 
can't do a regular seamonkey install.  Instead, I run it out of a personal 
directory.


On my home computer, I have a $HOME/.mozilla/plugins/ directory wherein I've 
put libflashplayer.so, and firefox seems to pick that up and use it ok from 
there.  However, seamonkey does not do so. That doesn't bother me at home, 
because I've put it where it does find it (somewhere under /usr, if I recall 
correctly).


Where may I put libflashplayer.so so that seamonkey will find it? I've tried 
putting it in .../seamonkey/ where a number of other *.so files it provides 
resides, but that doesn't do the trick, either.


Add this to ~/.profile (assuming your shell is bash or similar):
 export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/browser-plugins
where you'll put the correct path, of course.

If flash is installed and up-to-date on the system, you may point to the 
system dir. Or you point to your own dir and, if this prevents SM from 
seeing plugins installed system-wide, in your own dir you add symbolic 
links to other system plugins you use and don't want to install on your 
own.


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Re: Purging obsolete profile files

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 7 février 2014, gNeandr a écrit :


On 07.02.2014 09:52, Lucas Levrel wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been using SM for long (some 1.x version), and my profile folder
 contains many files that have not been touched since several years. Some
 of them must be obsolete. Where can I find a complete list of files used
 by current versions of SM?

It's not that wise to go this route, search all pieces eat much time you 
could have spent better. Just think about the extensions and settings you 
really need *today* and then define a new profile.

Don't delete the old before you have reached a good new setup.


Setting back up my profile from scratch would take long as well, but 
you've given a good hint : make a new profile and see what files it 
contains!


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Purging obsolete profile files

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi,

I've been using SM for long (some 1.x version), and my profile folder 
contains many files that have not been touched since several years. Some 
of them must be obsolete. Where can I find a complete list of files used 
by current versions of SM?


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Re: How to delete individual items from the upper toolbar history list?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 14 décembre 2013, Geoff Welsh a écrit :


Mort wrote:

 Hi,

 When I open up the upper toolbar area, where one types in an URL to go
 to, there is a dropdown list of all the recent URLs that I have visited.

 How can I delete individual URLs from that list?

 Thank you.

 Mort Linder



you can't.  This is a known issue for 12 years:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87098


You can't delete them from within the list, but they will disappear 
if you remove them from history (IIRC, I did this a few times).


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Re: Viewing PDF's in SeaMonkey.

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 23 avril 2013, Daniel a écrit :

Is mimeTypes.rdf a text file?? Doing a search here in my Win7 install (where 
my profile is), I've got no listing for mimeTypes.rdf.


My OS is Linux. Look in your Linux install maybe?

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Re: Viewing PDF's in SeaMonkey.

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 avril 2013, WaltS a écrit :


On 04/22/2013 11:24 AM, Daniel wrote:

 O.K., then if it works for you, Walt, I'll have to try to get rid of the
 Helper Application listing of Adobe then!!


Good luck with that. Maybe in about:config, but I wouldn't know where to 
look.


This is in mimeTypes.rdf . For a human being, this file is a mess, but it 
is manageable nevertheless.


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Re: Can't add item to Set Associations list

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 15 janvier 2013, Stan a écrit :

I keep receiving documents that have '.do' as the type of document. I'd like 
to add this to the Associations list but cannot find any way that lets me add 
items.


Try this:

1) Write down the following before step 2. :)
2) Close SM.
3) Open the mimeTypes.rdf file in your profile folder with a text editor.
4) After the first three lines that read:
***


***
add these:
***
  

  
  
  
***
5) Save the file. Close the editor.
6) Start SM, try to open a ".do" file, choose your app.


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Re: Browser Location Bar: Select on Click

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 octobre 2012, Redhat71 a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 12 octobre 2012, Redhat71 a écrit :


Cecil Bankston wrote:

The about:config shows that item and browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects
were already set as True.  It still requires 3 clicks to select the URL.

Redhat71 wrote:

browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll





browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll
not
browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects


Cecil said "*that item* *and* browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects".

I checked that these settings indeed have no effect (SM 12.1 on Linux
here). Worth a bug report I think. Cecil?



browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll;true wfm, sm 2.13 on linux


You're right, I stand corrected. I must have missed a restart!

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Re: Browser Location Bar: Select on Click

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 octobre 2012, Redhat71 a écrit :


Cecil Bankston wrote:

The about:config shows that item and browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects
were already set as True.  It still requires 3 clicks to select the URL.

Redhat71 wrote:

browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll





browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll
not
browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects


Cecil said "*that item* *and* browser.urlbar.clickAtEndSelects".

I checked that these settings indeed have no effect (SM 12.1 on Linux 
here). Worth a bug report I think. Cecil?


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Re: Browser Location Bar: Select on Click

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 octobre 2012, Cecil Bankston a écrit :

Previously when I would click in the browser location bar it would select the 
address that already was there so I could just start typing the new address 
to replace the old.  Now I have to triple-click or drag select the old 
address before I can type the new one.  I couldn't find a preferences option 
that related to this behavior.  How can I restore the 1-click selection?




Maybe browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll in about:config ?

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Re: [linux] IMAP (sucks) + cpu

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 9 octobre 2012, NoOp a écrit :


Only in that past few months have I added a few IMAP accounts. Now
nearly everytime that I check one of those accounts  (Get Msgs or I get
over 45% cpu from SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686;
rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1) and can't kill
the process unless I kill all of SeaMonkey.

This is just plain unacceptable; any hints on how I can troubleshoot
this? Can anyone point me to related bug reports?


Did you compact folders regularly?

Check what is done for deleted messages: they may be just hidden, bloating 
your mailbox!


If you left your messages on the server, you can try and delete (after 
backup!) the files containing the messages and index, and let SM fetch 
them back from the server.


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Solved once for all? [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[Lucas Levrel]

Finally, I dived into mimeTypes.rdf: it's hard to understand how it works 
precisely, but I saw "possibleApplication" lines so I added one for my 
script. Now the drop-down for "application/pdf" shows my script twice, 
with different icons, and the freshly added one works as expected.


- the drop-down for "application/pdf" lists: Always ask, Save file; Use 
evince-patched (default) [with a tiny window icon], use evince [paper sheet 
icon], use Adobe Reader 9.5 (in SeaMonkey) [Lego brick icon]. Application 
details shows one entry: evince.


- the drop-down for "application/save" lists: Always ask, Save file; Use 
(default) [a mere space after "Use"; a tiny window icon], use evince-patched 
[paper sheet icon], use evince [same icon], use acroread [same icon]. 
Application details shows one entry: evince-patched.


It looks like the entry with the tiny window icon is supposed to be a 
system default, but I wonder how SM determines it.


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Reopened: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[Lucas Levrel]

Well, I spoke too fast. The problem (recalled below) still shows up, but 
here's the detailed circumstances:
- When I click a link to a PDF file in a webpage, that triggers the Helper 
Apps "Action" chosen for content-type "application/pdf": if there I select 
my script, SM opens Acrobat instead.
- When I click the entry of a PDF file in a (local) directory index, that 
triggers the "application/save" Action: if there I select my script, it 
works.


Some more info about the Helper Apps list:

- the drop-down for "application/pdf" lists: Always ask, Save file; Use 
evince-patched (default) [with a tiny window icon], use evince [paper 
sheet icon], use Adobe Reader 9.5 (in SeaMonkey) [Lego brick icon]. 
Application details shows one entry: evince.


- the drop-down for "application/save" lists: Always ask, Save file; Use 
(default) [a mere space after "Use"; a tiny window icon], use 
evince-patched [paper sheet icon], use evince [same icon], use acroread 
[same icon]. Application details shows one entry: evince-patched.


Thanks.

I like to use Evince to read PDF files. If I select it (/usr/bin/evince) as 
helper app, it works.


Now, the Evince window doesn't always open at an optimal size (*). So I wrote 
a script (/home/lucas/bin/evince-patched) to automatically launch then resize 
it. The script works like a charm when called from a terminal. But SM refuses 
to use it: if I set it as helper app, SM launches Acrobat !


Here's the script:
---
#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/evince "$@" &
pid=$!
until wmctrl -lp |grep -q $pid
do sleep 1s
done
winid=$(wmctrl -lp | grep $pid | cut -d' ' -f1)
wmctrl -ir $winid -b add,maximized_vert
wmctrl -ir $winid -e 0,-1,-1,981,-1
---

The permissions look right:

ls -ld /home

drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 août 14  2011 /home

ls -ld /home/lucas

drwxr-xr-x 93 lucas users 12288 sept.  7 10:54 /home/lucas

ls -ld /home/lucas/bin

drwxr-xr-x 2 lucas users 4096 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin

ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched

-rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched


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Re: SeaMonkey is overly parranoid and has inadequate error message

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 septembre 2012, Richard Owlett a écrit :

My ISP (small local firm) provides spam and virus filters on all email 
accounts.


If these filters are enough, you can disable SM's junk filtering 
altogether for that account.


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Re: Can't set cookie prefs for domain

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 septembre 2012, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Believe it or not (this is really counterintuitive), yes and no. I had 
google.com set to block cookies and www.google.com set to allow session 
cookies. Once I changed google.com to allow session cookies, maps.google.com 
also started allowing them, too.


It's really frustrating and confusing that the user cannot change the pref 
for the subdomain quickly and easily without going through all this.


I agree that "Use default prefs" on a subdomain doesn't do what is 
expected if you have an explicit topdomain setting. But if I understood 
you correctly, you didn't try to explicitly set "allow (session) cookies" 
on the subdomain, did you?


About "going through all this", I wonder whether you did so to set the 
topdomain pref. I think one cannot set a topdomain pref through the 
menu (anyone corrects me if I'm wrong).


No criticism intended above!

Maybe submit a bug to at least change "Use default prefs" into "Use 
topdomain or default prefs"?


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[Solved] Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[Lucas Levrel]

Seeing other people's "works for me" pushed me to update SM and now that 
works for me as well! Maybe should I have tried this earlier, but I'm 
always reluctant to update when everything (well, almost) works.


Thanks for everyone's help.


Le 12 septembre 2012, Bill Davidsen a écrit :
Take a look at permissions on the directories in the path, you need world 
execute to pass through (not read).


These are OK (see my OP).

I agree about making things group writable, although if your Linux makes 
a per-user group it probably doesn't present much of an issue.


Are there distributions doing that, really? That defeats the concept of 
user group, don't you think?


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Re: Can't set cookie prefs for domain

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 septembre 2012, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Since the default is to accept only session cookies (as noted above), I 
thought that was enough. The other options are to block all (not what I want) 
and to allow all (not what I want).


Don't you have SM set to block cookies from "google.com"? I yes, I think 
you can override for maps.google.com if you set something explicit (not 
"default") for this subdomain.


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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 7 septembre 2012, NoOp a écrit :


You need to change the permissions. This works for me (although the
window size is not ideal (for my monitor):

$ ls -al evince-patched
-rwxrwxr-- 1 214 Sep  7 18:06 evince-patched


Thanks, but that doesn't work for me (plus I wouldn't want to set +w for 
the group). Then I also tried 700, 754, 770, 777, 775, 744, to no avail.


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[Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi,

I like to use Evince to read PDF files. If I select it (/usr/bin/evince) 
as helper app, it works.


Now, the Evince window doesn't always open at an optimal size (*). So I 
wrote a script (/home/lucas/bin/evince-patched) to automatically launch 
then resize it. The script works like a charm when called from a terminal. 
But SM refuses to use it: if I set it as helper app, SM launches Acrobat !


Here's the script:
---
#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/evince "$@" &
pid=$!
until wmctrl -lp |grep -q $pid
do sleep 1s
done
winid=$(wmctrl -lp | grep $pid | cut -d' ' -f1)
wmctrl -ir $winid -b add,maximized_vert
wmctrl -ir $winid -e 0,-1,-1,981,-1
---

The permissions look right:

ls -ld /home

drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 août 14  2011 /home

ls -ld /home/lucas

drwxr-xr-x 93 lucas users 12288 sept.  7 10:54 /home/lucas

ls -ld /home/lucas/bin

drwxr-xr-x 2 lucas users 4096 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin

ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched

-rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12 released

[Lucas Levrel]

Thanks for the announcement.

Le 30 août 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.12


Error 404.

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Re: Need some advice

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 23 août 2012, Philip TAYLOR a écrit :


Ken wrote:

When she encounters a
problem, I get her on the phone and while both of us are on the computer
try to picture what she is encountering, and see if I can correct her
problem.


Can't help with the symptoms, Ken, but have you/she considered "Remote
assistance" ?  I use this to assist a number of friends of varying
ages, and it is a Godsend.  If for any reason you cannot use Remote
Assistance, then perhaps consider Skype "Share screen".


I'd warmly recommend www.teamviewer.com, which allows cross-platform 
remote assistance. On Windows, the tool doesn't even need an installation: 
just download the executable and run it.


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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 24 mai 2012, Rickles a écrit :

Well, THAT was interesting.  Shut down SM, copied extensions.sqlite away from 
profile folder, deleted original and restarted SM.  Had to approve each 
single add-on and re-start SM, one add-on at a time.  Ultimately got 
everything back to normal, but the same faulty behavior persists.


If you added back one add-on at a time, you must have seen when the 
behavior reappeared!


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Re: Composing a mail add "-- " if the signature is in html

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 31 mars 2012, Ray_Net a écrit :


--
Raymond,
--
 
 etc


Maybe try to toggle "suppress_signature_separator" to true in 
about:config? (I didn't try, but mine shows a default of "false".)


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Re: Bug 662526 - Pasting to new tab button opens two tabs. (Linux only)

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 23 mars 2012, Philip Chee a écrit :


Anyone on *Linux* can confirm that this bug also happens to them?


I just get one blank new tab. (As if I left-clicked.)

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.6.1


The "middleclick" settings mentioned in the bug are all default & true.

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 29 février 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Now, the extra junk i would like to remove is from the "Subscribe" thru and 
including all of those dividers, to "Investing" which i want.
That way, there would still be a dividing line between "Manage Bookmarks" 
and "Investing" and would look like my pull-down in ver 1.1.16.



Here you go, put this in userChrome.css in the chrome folder:

@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";);
#BMB_unsortedBookmarksFolderMenu {display: none!important}
#BMB_bookmarksToolbarFolderMenu {display: none!important}
#BMB_feedsMenu {display: none!important}

You've been given a solution wrt dividers, isn't it?

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :


STUPID me; i saw the word "example" and immediately got what seems
the false impression that those files were actual examples and thus not
used.
Will look at them; thanks.


For them to be used by SM, you first need to rename them (either or both, 
they're independent) to userChrome.css and userContent.css .


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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 mars 2012, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

No need. Incidentally I fixed it yesterday (for 2.9 and later; too late for 
2.8 and earlier).


Big thanks!


HTH


You bet!

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Quoting Lucas Levrel :

userChrome.css,

I find no such file, or even one with a crudely similar name (using SM7.2).


It's not there by default. On older versions you had 
userChrome-example.css and userContent-example.css in a chrome/ folder in 
your profile.


Maybe could you try posting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 mars 2012, Desiree a écrit :


Ok. I reinstated the default theme. That button/icon does look like a long
tiny bookmark now. On some tabs it is light green in color and on others it
is light gray. I didn't know what the difference in color meant but I


(I learned that in the release notes a few versions ago.)


learned that when gray that tab has not been bookmarked and, if you click on
the gray button/icon, then it turns light green to indicate that the tab
(page on that tab) is now bookmarked.  You are right, it goes into unsorted
if you bookmark this way (which I have never done until now). But if you
immediately click on the now green icon you will get Edit Bookmark window
right under the icon.


You've taught me something!


The reason the bookmark window was way over at the right edge of the screen
was because I used to have the search bar hidden. That made the address bar
very long and that thin bookmark icon is at the end of the address bar.


On my SM 2.6.1 under Win XP, the "cramped" window is *right* aligned to 
the bookmark icon, so it doesn't get offscreen (I have no search bar 
either, only the Print and throbber icons). Strange.



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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 8 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

**In that case, getting back to my original query, how can i alter /
trim / remove things from the bookmarks pull-down?


I think some parts are hardcoded (maybe something can be done through 
userChrome.css, but I'm no expert and can test for now). Your best bet is 
submitting a bug / request for enhancement.


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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 9 mars 2012, Desiree a écrit :


It's not new. It is the same window you get when you use Ctrl-D but it is
just under the right end of the address bar. I usually bookmark by right
clicking somewhere on the page I want to bookmark and choosing "bookmark
this" and that opens the Add New Bookmark window. Try clicking on the pencil
at the end of the address bar.


I have no pencil :-). I guess something in my prefs disabled it.


That will open it also right under the
pencil.  The icon you speak of that bookmarks the current page into Unsorted
Bookmarks, is that the pencil?


No, it's the bookmark-shaped icon (tiny oblique green ribbon in the 
Default theme) that bookmarks into Unsorted.


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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 mars 2012, Desiree a écrit :


If you drag the search bar to the customize area so it is no longer at the
end of the address bar, then the address bar becomes extremely long. If the
search bar is left at the end of the address bar then the drop down Add New
Bookmark window appears right under the search bar.


I understand. You could try to use Ctrl-D instead (sometimes it's hard to 
change one's habits...), which pops up a "normal" window.


I don't have this drop down. All I have in the address bar is an icon that 
"bookmarks" the current page into Unsorted Bookmarks. Is this a recently 
added feature?



highlight, say, three tabs I have moved to be next to each other and then
tell SM to bookmark all three at once. This ought to be possible. This has
been native to Opera for some time, but Opera has gotten so involved with
what you can do with tabs that it is actually too much and irritating!


That's the point: you can always add more and more features, but it ends 
up being too much for some users, yet still not enough for others... SM is 
already greatly customizable through its extensions; thank it for that, 
and hope someone will make an add-on that fits your need! (Did you look 
for one already?)


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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 mars 2012, Philip TAYLOR a écrit :


Lucas Levrel wrote:


Le 6 mars 2012, Philip TAYLOR a écrit :



Can anyone explain the rationale for this ? Why /do/ developers
believe that there is an optimal size for a dialogue box, and s@d the
poor user if the data that he or she is trying to enter or display
does not fit ?


Why do you believe developers believe this?


Because of all the evidence that supports this belief.  Why else
inflict non-resizeable dialogue boxes (and non-copyable text)
on poor, long-suffering, users ?


The answer is in the parts of my post you edited out.

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 mars 2012, Philip TAYLOR a écrit :


That cramped
little box you get for adding a bookmark is backward and stupid.


led me to discover that this box, like far too many boxes
both in Windows and in Seamonkey, is not resizeable.


That's a registered bug, and people are working on it.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=605786

Can anyone explain the rationale for this ? Why /do/ developers believe 
that there is an optimal size for a dialogue box, and s@d the poor user 
if the data that he or she is trying to enter or display does not fit ?


Why do you believe developers believe this?

What would be the overheads of making all dialogue boxes resizable, and 
why is this not standard practice ?


See that bug's page. The API looks terrible (to me).

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 5 mars 2012, Desiree a écrit :

Plus, if you only use the address bar for searching and eliminate the 
Search bar then that box for adding a bookmark when you right click on a 
web page drops down from the far right sid of screen with part of it off 
screen and it cannot be moved.


I really don't understand what you're talking about.


At least before Fx4 (don't recall what version of SM),
Bookmarks drop down was from Bookmarks on the Menu bar so in a much better
place on the screen and was LARGE to work in.


I still have it (SM 2.6.1).

Now you get on both browsers a stingy, tiny window that is hard to work 
in and displays half off screen if you get rid of the search bar.


Are you talking about the "New Bookmark" window? I can't find anything 
like a bookmarks window.



I can bookmark all tabs at once in Fx but that is through an extension
always available on Mozilla browser (first extension ever on Mozilla or
Firebird) but not available on SM.


Right click on a tab > Bookmark this group of tabs. This will create a 
folder containing bookmarks for all your current tabs.


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Re: AAARRRRRRRRGHHH - SM Master Password bug!!!!!!!!

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 20 février 2012, Rufus a écrit :


user_pref("security.password_lifetime", 90);


I have this set to 0. Try it maybe? (through about:config that's easy)

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Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 -> SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 14 février 2012, Doors a écrit :


What happened to 'File' in bookmarks, it used to be easy, direct and
obvious.
You selected file, it popped up a tree viewyou could scrioll if needed,
and you clicked where you wanted it, now you have to use some funky
folder menu you you have to open then navigate, I used to be able to
just click, now I have to navigate, why?


Agreed. But you get the tree by clicking the rightmost arrow of the 
Folder: line (BTW, having two arrows side-by-side is akward and 
puzzling).



Another SQL file?
Is importing a text file hard?
I used to manage my cookies with notepad++, now I have an unholy
disaster of an interface I am forced to use.


I think using an SQL database editor would fit your need. But the learning 
curve might be rather steep...



Simple text and html files work just fine, why push all this fancy stuff
that takes more CPU time to run?


Not so sure.


Once it is memory, it is all just a table anyway, what difference does
it make how they are stored on the disc?


With data nicely structured on disk, you need not load it entirely in 
memory. Also, a plain array of data is certainly not the best way to 
manage structured data (like sorted data, or trees).


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Re: my apology to calek dude ...

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 14 février 2012, Daniel a écrit :


Here we go againthis idiot trying to blame "calek dude"


Read the subject... He merely cites the original post and explains his 
jokes (the starred lines).


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Re: Why forms manager is removed from Seamonkey?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 février 2012, nikolam a écrit :


I would like to ask somewhat rephrased question from some time ago,
since I need forms manager again to remember website form.

Why forms manager is removed from Seamonkey?


As I understood it, going from SM 1 to SM 2 changed the coding framework, 
and nobody could rewrite the form manager in the new one.



And how to get forms manager functionality back?


Use Autofill Forms. Take the "SM'ed version" by Phil Chee here: 
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#autofillforms .


Manual here: http://autofillforms.mozdev.org/drupal/content/main-page

To "emulate" the old "save form info", you'll want to use this: 
http://autofillforms.mozdev.org/drupal/content/how-add-complete-form-profile 
, and you can define keyboard or mouse shortcuts to fill out forms.



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Re: Question: Flash Cookies

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 24 janvier 2012, David E. Ross a écrit :


Among the Flash cookies is one that specifies my Flash options,
including a number of privacy options (e.g., denying a Web site access
to my PC's microphone), trust settings, and update options.

How can I protect the cookie that specifies my Flash options while also
allowing removal of other Flash cookies?


I'd try this: do a backup, set the file read-only, clear cookies. Don't 
forget the backup step!


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Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 27 décembre 2011, DoctorBill a écrit :


Another thing about tabs - For God's Sake, DO NOT click on that "Open
All in Tabs" when looking at your Favorites (Bookmarks) tool bar.!


Here's how to remove that button (posted here a while ago for SM 2.1 [by 
Philip Taylor?]). Place the following two lines in userChrome.css:

menuitem[label="Open All in Tabs"] {display: none!important}
menuseparator.bookmarks-actions-menuseparator {display: none!important}

userChrome.css must be located in the chrome folder of your profile. If 
you never tweaked your "chrome", you'll only find there 
"userChrome-example.css": make a copy of it, named userChrome.css, and 
place the above two lines at its end.


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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 décembre 2011, Lucas Levrel a écrit :

I did so, including both /usr/lib/browser-plugins and 
/usr/lib64/browser-plugins. Now SM finds Flash and Adobe Reader, both of 
which are in /lib/, and I get error messages about those in /lib64/.


So my next step is to try SM 64-bit.


Done: it finds all plugins. Those in /lib/ cause errors, but they have 
wrappers in /lib64/.


I'll see with time if they all work, but I'm rather confident.

Thanks for all the help.

P.S.: my first note about 2.5 is that it doesn't steal focus anymore. 
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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 décembre 2011, Jens Hatlak a écrit :

You could create a symlink, like so (in a terminal/console):


Good idea. Meanwhile I found the environment variable to set (which 
lets one point to more than one place, but my system has only one 
plugins folder anyway), which works equally well.


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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 décembre 2011, WLS a écrit :


Are you using the 32-bit or 64-bit version of SeaMonkey?


32-bit, for now (see below).


Is SeaMonkey the only Mozilla application installed on your system? The
.mozilla/plugins folder is shared between all of my Mozilla apps.


No. No such folder here.


Did pluginreg.dat get recreated when you restarted SeaMonkey?


No.


Maybe these will help.


Yes! One links to: 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_Plugin_API_Reference/Plug-in_Basics#How_Gecko_Finds_Plug-ins 
where I learnt I can set MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH.


I did so, including both /usr/lib/browser-plugins and 
/usr/lib64/browser-plugins. Now SM finds Flash and Adobe Reader, both of 
which are in /lib/, and I get error messages about those in /lib64/.


So my next step is to try SM 64-bit.


I had problems with the SeaMonkey 64-bit version and plugins, so
reverted to the 32-bit version.


Did you find in yast 32-bit versions of all your plugins?

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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 décembre 2011, WLS a écrit :

What do you mean by upstream SM 2.5?


Downloaded from SM-project.org.


What do you show in your .mozilla/plugins folder?


There's no such folder.

I found the plugins are in /usr/lib/browser-plugins and 
/usr/lib64/browser-plugins. Deleting pluginreg.dat (when SM is not 
running) has no effect. So it looks like SM doesn't examine those folders. 
How can I instruct it to?


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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Context reminder: SM 2.4.1 as distributed by Opensuse 11.2 didn't work 
(Mail crashed). 2.5 doesn't any better.


Le 30 novembre 2011, Lucas Levrel a écrit :
Try installing by hand, not the suse packages. The official version works for 
WLS (see above mentionned thread). I didn't have time to try.


Finally, I could take time to install the "upstream" SM 2.5. It works (for 
now: I installed 5 minutes ago!), but it doesn't find any plugins. There 
are many installed on my system:

- adobe reader
- default plugin
- djview
- java
- NPAPI plugins wrapper
- packagekit
- shockwave flash

What should I do?

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Re: 2.4.1-0.2.1 x86_64 hang with mail

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 29 novembre 2011, Patrick Begou a écrit :


I've a strange problem with seamonkey 2.4.1 x86_64.
System is OpenSuse x86_64 fresh install, with all updates.

I've dowgraded seamonkey to 2.0.14-0.2.1 x86_64 and all work fine.

I do not find anything with google (except some people having similar problem 
but without solution).


I guess you saw my posts in this group (Oct 6-7, "2.4.1 problems, part I: 
Mail crashes it all!").


If you launch from a terminal to see warnings and errors, and monitor 
memory usage, we'll compare problems!



Any idea where to start ?


Try installing by hand, not the suse packages. The official version works 
for WLS (see above mentionned thread). I didn't have time to try.


If it works -> bug report to Opensuse (+ post here to let us know !)

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Re: Forms History Control Update to 2 Crashes and burns SeaMonkey 2.0.14

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 26 novembre 2011, Justin Wood (Callek) a écrit :


PhillipJones wrote:


Why am I sticking with 2.0.14? *NoSquint*. NoSquint is so vital to me I
will not upgrade to the latest versions of SM. If someone will come up
with a NoSquint Equivalent or convert NoSquint I will move. Otherwise I
am not budging.


I seem to recall many in the group already explaining how with 2.5 NoSquint 
is no longer necessary and completely obsolete.


I seem to recall users of NoSquint already explaining how 2.5 features are 
nowhere as rich as NoSquint's.



but sure, enjoy your security-hole-ridden version.


security-hole-ridden usable version

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Re: 2.4.1 problems, part I: Mail crashes it all!

[Lucas Levrel]

Some more tests.

I tried and upgraded from 2.0.14 64-bit to 2.4 32-bit.

First I launched the browser, installed and removed some addons... Then I 
launched Mail: it took much time before prompting me for my passwords, and 
memory usage reached 2 GB!


After that first run, I've closed and reopened it. Browser uses around 235 
MB, and when I open Mail, it takes an additional 830 MB (merely to start; 
no open mailboxes). That looks very much! Also, Mail is very long to start 
(around 40 sec), and once started, CPU usage remains around 25% as long as 
the box prompting me for my password is open.


Then, I close Mail, not the browser: the memory usage stays the same. I 
think "OK, it's just in some kind of background". I open it back: tada! 
again 40 seconds of waiting, and an *additional* 800 MB of mem used (it's 
near 1.9 GB now)! So now, guess what happened when I did another round of 
this (close Mail, open Mail)? Crash! I have "only" 1 GB of RAM and 2 GB of 
swap...


Taken from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4/:
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Mozilla platform changes
Drastically improved memory use
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Re: 2.4.1 problems, part I: Mail crashes it all!

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 octobre 2011, WLS a écrit :

I have no problem with SeaMonkey mail on openSUSE 11.3 64-bit, using 
SeaMonkey 2.4.1 32-bit manually installed (well updated from 2.3.3) version.


Which version of openSUSE are you using?


11.2 64-bit.

Current SM package: 2.0.14-0.2.1 x86_64 (repo 11.2 Update).
Tried: 2.4-1.1 x86_64 (repo 11.2 Evergreen).

My current version is the "highest" on the Update repo. On the Evergreen 
one, they don't keep previous versions. So I can't readily try and take 
intermediary steps. Can you look in your 11.3 repos if one offers SM 2.1?


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Re: 2.4.1 Insert Characters and Symbols

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 octobre 2011, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit :


Yes,  /Unicode/ plain text.  It has characters and
symbols.  Why am I denied access to an easy way to
insert them, just because I eschew HTML e-mail ?


I think the rationale (if any) would be that your OS is supposed to take 
care of that. If it supports Unicode, it should provide you a way to 
produce Unicode chars in *any* application.


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2.4.1 problems, part II: History renders sooo slowly

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi again,

I just upgraded from SM 2.0.14 to 2.4.1 through my package manager (OpenSUSE
64-bit).

I open History fullscreen, with no grouping and no sorting. I have around 
5000 entries there. Then, any action quickly rises CPU activity close to 
max, *even moving the mouse pointer at medium pace in small circles*! 
Raising the window, scrolling, selecting several items by shift-clicking, 
etc. all take a few seconds (in addition to rising CPU load of course).


When grouping by website, the list is shorter and renders more quickly.

Also, I noticed the places.sqlite is far bigger now.
Before migration: bookmarks.html 139700 bytes, places.sqlite 5275648.
Just after migration: places.sqlite 10485760, twice as big!

(Same and stronger disease for cookies.sqlite: 14336 -> 524288 !)

Is there an open bug for this? (Couldn't take the time now to check by 
myself, sorry.)


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2.4.1 problems, part I: Mail crashes it all!

[Lucas Levrel]

Hi,

I just upgraded from SM 2.0.14 to 2.4.1 through my package manager 
(OpenSUSE 64-bit).


I can't start Mail anymore.

- Clicking on the bottom-left icon or on the relevant item in SM's Window 
menu kills the whole app (browser, history...).


- Starting from command-line ("seamonkey -safe-mode -mail", or "seamonkey 
-safe-mode" then trying to open Mail) gives the following error message:

seamonkey-bin: misc.c:39: px_malloc0: Assertion `mem != ((void *)0)' failed.
/usr/bin/seamonkey: line 127:  5686 Aborted $MOZ_PROGRAM "$@"

In either case the Mail window shows up very briefly.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 3 octobre 2011, Jane--Galt a écrit :


MCBastos   wrote :

Unfair comparison. Places does more than storing bookmarks. It also
stores history, for instance. AND it also stores the site icons
(favicons), which do take a bit of space -- more than one line of text
(which is what a bookmark is, essentially), at least.


Perhaps they could separate the history stuff from the raw bookmarks file?


LOL, you've just been said they did the opposite!

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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 29 septembre 2011, d...@kd4e.com a écrit :


In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java,
wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source
substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream?


There exists IcedTea (at least on Linux, which you are using). Not as good 
as the original, though (some applets won't work).


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :


On Jul 13, 5:56 am, Lucas Levrel  wrote:

Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :


I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next
to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me!
:(


If you have several tabs open it should.
Prefs > Browser > Tabbed browsing > Warn me when...


Nope. It exits with ctrl-q hotkeys without any warnings/promptings on
my home (updated XP Pro. SP3) and office (updated 64-bit Windows 7 HP)
PCs. :(


Looks abnormal. What do you get in about:config if you look for 
browser.tabs.warn (I get three "default" set at "true")?


Do you see the problem with a fresh profile?


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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :

I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next 
to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! 
:(


If you have several tabs open it should.
Prefs > Browser > Tabbed browsing > Warn me when...

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Re: Upgrade problem from version 1.1.18 to 2.1 (Windows XP)

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 juin 2011, Bill Spikowski a écrit :

I just tried this upgrade but was never asked which profile should be 
migrated.



(...)


Should I uninstall 2.1 and just start over, or is there some interim step I 
missed?


If I were you I'd try installing some 2.0 first (which should do the 
migration), then 2.1.


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Re: Can't download to install SM2.0 extensions on a clean/new installed SM2.1?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 juin 2011, David E. Ross a écrit :


Also note that setting the  to 2.* might not work with a
pending update to the Add-ons Manager.  I'm not sure, but I think the
new Add-ons Manager will reject wild-cards in version numbers.


Maybe 2.99 could then be used as a workaround?

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Re: Odd SM problem

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 13 avril 2011, Bill Spikowski a écrit :

I don't see anything in my preferences that would account for this, but I 
have exactly the same problem on a new laptop with Windows 7 and SM 2.0, 
which I set up to replicate the same settings. I'm stumped – what might cause 
this problem?


No idea, but you could find it by dichotomy:
1) close SM
2) backup prefs.js as original_prefs.js
3) create prefs_2.js containing second half of prefs.js
4) erase second half from prefs.js
5) start SM
6) if the problem shows up, close SM, delete prefs_2.js, goto 3
7) the problem doesn't show up. Close SM, delete prefs.js, rename 
prefs_2.js as prefs.js. Restart SM:

 - if the problem shows up, goto 3
 - if the problem doesn't show up, bad luck! the problem is caused by 
interaction of multiple settings.


Repeat until there's only one line left in prefs.js: the culprit. If you 
don't find one, check user.js (if any) and extensions as well.


Note: dichotomy is very efficient. With my 2700-line-long prefs.js, 11 or 
12 iterations would be enough.


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Re: SM 2.1b3 User Interface Changes

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 avril 2011, NoOp a écrit :


Yeah that works, but old habits die hard :-) Plus my middle-click on my
old mouse is like crunching a cockroach... push hard - crunch. I've
finally retrained MM to the new "Open Link in a New Tab". Thanks for
reminding me about the middle-click, I'd forgotten all about it.


There's Ctrl-left click, as well.

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Re: What am I??

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 mars 2011, Daniel a écrit :


For know reasons, I've added the words "not Firefox" to my user agent string,


The probable key point is: how did you do that?


so that:-

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; 
rv:1.9.1.17) Gecko/20110123 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 not Firefox


However, when I go to "About:Seamonkey" in the browser address line, it shows 
"version 2.0.12", so has my adding the "not Firefox" directly to the 
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey made it impossible for SM to actually 
update the Build Identifier??


Is this why others advocate creating an additional value like 
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.firefox??


Using general.useragent.extra.firefox I got no problem indeed.

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Re: [Linux] update to 2.0.12 problem.

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 9 mars 2011, Bernard Mercier a écrit :


Maybe: make sure again there's no SM running, then remove
~/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default/lock



Unfortunately, I don't see that .../lock (directory? file?)


Oh yes, with multiple profiles you'd have to remove any 
~/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.*/lock .



Good, but I am still puzzled, why all of a sudden I had this problem.


Strange indeed. As said, I had the message too but the update went fine.

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Re: Anyone see text overlap here?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 7 mars 2011, d...@kd4e.com a écrit :


Minimum font size is set to 10.


Unsetting it will likely solve the problem.

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Re: Anyone see text overlap here?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 6 mars 2011, d...@kd4e.com a écrit :


Anyone else seeing this?


Not here.


Any idea why and what may be the solution?


Did you set a minimum font size in Prefs > Appearance > Fonts ?

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Re: [Linux] update to 2.0.12 problem.

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 5 mars 2011, Bernard Mercier a écrit :


But then I got the message that I had probably another SeaMonkey instance
running and that I had to close it first.

Does anyone has the same issue?


Yes, but I got it only once, at the first launch after updating.


How can I correct this issue?


Maybe: make sure again there's no SM running, then remove 
~/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default/lock


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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 janvier 2011, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

That was my old setting, before I followed your suggestion. With that 
setting, an existing tab (blank or not) is preserved, and that was my 
original complaint.


A regular bookmark can be told to replace an existing page or open in a new 
page, but a groupmark cannot be told to add its tabs to an existing set -- 
either I open a whole new window for it, or I replace all my existing tabs.


Okay, you mean by right-clicking! Indeed, apart from the question of 
replacing blanks, there could be a right-click option of "open in new 
tabs".


I want a third option: add your tabs to my existing set, replacing any 
blank ones but retaining any tabs with content.


That could be interesting for regular bookmarks also. However that might 
give some strange results, like this:

Before:
Page X - Blank - Page Y - Blank - Page Z
After opening a group made of Pages 1/2/3...:
Page X - Page 1 - Page Y - Page 2 - Page Z - ...

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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 janvier 2011, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

The difference between a bookmark and a groupmark is I can tell a bookmark to 
open in a new tab, but I can't tell a groupmark to open in new tabs.


Yes you can. See Prefs > Tabbed Browsing, second frame (don't know its 
English label), it's about adding vs replacing tabs.



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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 11 janvier 2011, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :


But I only want it to replace /blank/ tabs.


Yes, but regular bookmarks behave the same way: they either replace the 
current tab (blank or not), or open in a new tab (the current being blank 
or not). Or did I miss some functionality?


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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 10 janvier 2011, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

One thing I've always wished for with groupmarks is behavior similar to that 
of ordinary bookmarks when a blank window is open. With an ordinary bookmark, 
opening it from a blank navigator window puts the contents in that blank 
window. But with a groupmark, opening it from a blank navigator window leaves 
one blank tab where the open window sat, and opens the various bookmarks in 
new tabs. So a groupmark with five links yields six tabs, one of them blank.


Except if you set groupmarks to replace existing tabs in Prefs.

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Re: Autofill Forms

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 2 janvier 2011, Tom Pamin a écrit :

I'm using Autofill Forms, and would like to add some stored fields for things 
that are missing, such as payment info, etc. Can someone tell me if it's 
possible to add more fields, and if so, how to do it?


Go to Preferences -> Main, choose a profile, fill in the empty textboxes 
at bottom, click Add.


Or you can browse to the form, right-click the field > Add a rule for this 
field. See 
http://autofillforms.mozdev.org/drupal/content/how-add-rule-specific-form-field

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Re: Password-remember software blocked

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 22 décembre 2010, Ken a écrit :

Autofill Forms is still in beta, isn't it?  Does it remember passwords or 
just only fill in forms?


Well, it may have some bugs, but I don't think its maintainer considers it 
"beta". In fact the author handed it to someone else rather recently.


I take it you prefer Autofill Forms to SM's own Form Manager (which I have 
never used)?


Right, because it lets you fill a whole form with a single keypress. Or 
fill & submit with another keypress (all customizable).



RoboForm remembers the PW required by my ISP (or is by SM itself?)


By your ISP. SM can remember these and "fill" them automatically.

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