Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

[PhillipJones]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/28/17 1:21 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Why can't the Site Manager erase them ?
Filter them out?

DoctorBill



What site manager?

Time to learn how to create a server wide or newsgroup specific filter.

My server wide filter for that spam has 17 entries.

Press the F1 function key to open the SeaMonkey Help Contents, enter
filters in the Search box and read the section on Creating Message Filters.



what about reporting ISP and have them permanently Black listed.

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Re: Can Not play HTML5 videos

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Danny Kile wrote:

Can Not play YouTube HTML5 videos, in SeaMonkey 2.48. This link will not
run, https://youtu.be/9MkQmrK_Mnk .I get the following error where the
video should be. "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the
video formats available. Click here to visit our frequently ask
questions about HTML5 videos."

This does not offer me any solutions. The video plays just fine with
(yuk) IE. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I clicked on Link and played just fine However I am using Seamonkey 2.48 
on a MacBook Pro with 16 GB Memory and i7 Processor


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 Certificates

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Lee wrote:

On 8/26/17, David Guymer  wrote:

There is something wrong with SeaMonkey 2.48.Every page I go to I get a
certificate warning.

I have aspersky Total Security 18.0. I have imported the Certificate
from this program with the same warning afterwards.


It sounds like the cert wasn't imported - or maybe it wasn't imported
into the right place?
edit / preferences
privacy & security / certificates / manage certificates
authorities

do you see the Kaspersky cert there?

but before clicking on import take a look at
  https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA17-075A
Allowing your a/v program to inspect traffic from https sites might be
desirable but be aware of the trade-offs.

Lee




All other browswers are unaffected. News and mail are unaffected in
SeaMonkey.

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I can't even get 2.48 to work MacBook Pro Bought in Feb 2017 16 GB RAM 
SSD Drive OSX12.6 After updating from 2.46 to 2.48. Crashed hard. 
Fortunately I  went back to 2.46 using time Machine. Works Perfect.  The 
last couple of updates for Mac have been Stinkers.


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Re: Password manager locks up Seamonkey 2.46

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Bob Minchin wrote:

As per subject really.

I'm running SM 2.46 which when it checks for updates there are none
reported. (although I see references to 2.48?)
I'm using Win XP SP3 and not proposing to change OS.

Every time I open Password manager it opens with a minimum size new
window and just locks up all SM windows and the only way out is Crtl Alt
Delete.
Rebooting the machine has no effect on the problem.

Any ideas Please

Bob


Don't download it I downloaded the Mac version the other and it crashed 
almost as soon as I clicked the icon and send error reports. So I went 
and download 2.46 and reinstalled and haven't had an issue since.


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Re: Seamonkey 10.50a2

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/03/2017 08:26 AM, Luis wrote:

Just installed and so far everything goes smooth. However, since SM
looks so ancient I wonder when will be modernized or at least its user
interface revamped.


When it does get to 10.50. Maybe.

Actually, its interface is why the majority of users use the application.

Your mileage may vary.



I use SeaMonkey because I like the All-In_One where you can go 
instantaneously from email to browser or Browser to email/newsreader. 
The interface look fine to me. You can kind of get a mindset of how I 
feel by my signature file. "If it ain't broke, Don't fix it!"  Which 
means if something perfectly like it should what is the point of 
changing just for the sake of change.


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Re: Status of official 2.48 release

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Daniel wrote:

On 3/02/2017 5:27 PM, djc wrote:

On 3/02/2017 11:42 AM, PhillipJones wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

What is the status for the official 2.48 release?

There have been no updates to the SM blog:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/

If I update to akalla's 2.48, it should be 100% compatible
with the official release, right?

Regards.


I've been looking for this 2.48 update for SeaMonkey Mac for days . It
ain't showing up,


You could try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-mac64/



I don't know Mac formats, but presumably one of these is the exe?

[ ]seamonkey-2.48.en-US.mac64.complete.mar2017-02-01 18:25
52M
[ ]seamonkey-2.48.en-US.mac64.dmg2017-02-01 18:24 52

I've been using Adrian's windows builds, even experimental 64bit
versions with few problems. YMMV

Cheers, djc


I'd go for the 52MB file as then program file rather than the 52B file.
But aren't .mar files update files rather than the complete installation
file??


Just downloaded the most current version of en - US SeaMonkey 64 bit.
And continuously crashes.  I've reverted back to 2.46 and works okay. It 
added a Calendar feature I might try again if I can figure out how to 
Bypass plugins/extensions.


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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


You don't I've been marking the same sends and subjects on a
Particular email add res as junk  then delete and I still get the
same Identical subjects and senders day after day after day.  I
thought when you marked a subject and sender as spam it was supposed
to go automatically to Junk or spam Folder. Has worked that way in
ages.


Check your settings at

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Junk & Suspect Mail

[x] When I mark messages as junk:
(•) Move them to the account's "Junk" folder
(o) Delete them

Mark Messages as read:
[ ] When SeaMonkey determines that they are junk
[x] When I manually mark them as junk

You may have inadvertently reset (cleared) the training data, in which
case SM will have forgotten all it ever learned and started over. If you
resume training it, it'll eventually learn again, but not in one day.

Don't remember ever resetting Training data.  maybe  that's what I need 
to do haven't reset in years maybe I am over the limit.


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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

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sean wrote:

Richard Alan wrote:

sean wrote:


On 01/19/2017 10:41 AM, sean wrote:

On 01/18/2017 03:16 PM, Richard Alan wrote:

[snippage]

Are you using "contains"?


Yes, I'm using contains... its not that I dunno how to filter it out of
my inbox, but I like defeating the source. I've had zero spam for a
number of years... absolutely zero incoming.


You'll never be able to defeat a true spammer.


Perhaps I'm tilting at windmills, Don Quixote was the first book I
recollect my father handing me to read in 2nd grade.

Taking this on as a distraction & challenge as I divert my attention
away from my oh so political mother wanting to be friends on
facebook...

IP:104.47.40.128   ...


Is that actually the sending address of your spam?



I'm guessing now though, there's probably no good reason to report it
back to any of the addresses listed on the whois page for the
onmicrosoft domain, likely to only get my own self blacklisted

http://www.whois.com/whois/markmonitor.com

sean


Rather ironic that the originating server is from a "brand protection
company" ... ... Is this what Microsoft's Azure morphed into?

https://www.markmonitor.com/


I've no idea what you're getting into there.


I'm e'mailing all the addresses on that page with a polite  request to
double check their servers... ;~)


I see your smiley. I also doubt if you will ever be successful in your
quest. Just figure out a way to filter it or ignore it.



Happy to report, its been more than a week since I received any junk
mail from the previously offending domains attached to markmonitor
(dot)com. While they denied any cuplability, they must have forwarded it
to the IT department. Since that page is NOT a person but a company
which "monitors" the brand reputations of many "marks"

sean
You don't I've been marking the same sends and subjects on a Particular 
email add res as junk  then delete and I still get the same Identical 
subjects and senders day after day after day.  I thought when you marked 
a subject and sender as spam it was supposed to go automatically to Junk 
or spam Folder. Has worked that way in ages.


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Re: Status of official 2.48 release

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Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

What is the status for the official 2.48 release?

There have been no updates to the SM blog:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/

If I update to akalla's 2.48, it should be 100% compatible
with the official release, right?

Regards.

I've been looking for this 2.48 update for SeaMonkey Mac for days . It 
ain't showing up,


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

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Mason83 wrote:

On 22/12/2016 13:10, Ant wrote:

Ditto, but I am not getting any internal updates for v2.46 in my updated
64-bit W7 HPE SP1's SM v2.40 installation. What about the rest of you?


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/12/22/tears-of-joy/

ewong wrote:

Seriously though...  I do have one nagging feeling that updating for
Windows 64 bit users *might* have an issue.  If so, please post here
or on the newsgroups and I'll fix it.



Just updated to the Mac version.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

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sean wrote:

On 12/22/2016 11:33 AM, sean wrote:

On 12/22/2016 03:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Yes...  BELIEVE IT.. It's out! After so many months..  it's out!!!

Reading back on 2.40's post, I wrote it was a 'difficult release'...
man.. little DID I know.

Erm.. oh wait.  the formal post...

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.

We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Edmund



2.46? downloaded from the main Seamonkey page, is this what I'm supposed
to have? doesn't look right :~/

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Build identifier: 20160118183220



So the main page still downloads 2.40 even though there is mention of
the December 2016 release... I managed to find the 2.46 release here:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.46/linux-x86_64/en-US/

and About Seamonkey now reads:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20161213175921

sean


Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up. Installed 
and currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2 the way the 
security is in Sierra if its defective it won't install.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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NoOp wrote:

On 01/17/2015 03:10 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote on 17/01/2015 20:50:

Mason83 wrote:

On 17/01/2015 13:27, Philip Chee wrote:


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?


I will buy you a copy of Linux! ^_^

Regards.



...I'll chip in too!


What distribution would you give him ?

I get crazy reading this page:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783109-how-to-choose-the-best-linux-desktop-for-you


Here, this will make it easy for you :-)

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg>



I don"t have problem choosing which Windows i will use, because, it's
bundled in a pc you buy. :-)



@Philip: You can easily use VMWare or VirtualBox to run various linux
distro's, within Windows - but hey, I appreciate all that you do & if
it's only Windows that you work with, then that's A-OK with me, thanks
and keep up the good work.


You can get a Mac mini for for as Little as $499.00 If you want to work 
on SeaMonkey for Mac need to supply your own Keyboard and Monitor.


Note: this is a Suggestion for Phil Chee who asked about someone buying 
him a Mac to work on SeaMonkey Mac.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote on 17/01/2015 20:50:

Mason83 wrote:

On 17/01/2015 13:27, Philip Chee wrote:


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?


I will buy you a copy of Linux! ^_^

Regards.



...I'll chip in too!


What distribution would you give him ?

I get crazy reading this page:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783109-how-to-choose-the-best-linux-desktop-for-you


I don"t have problem choosing which Windows i will use, because, it's
bundled in a pc you buy. :-)
If you buy a new Mac It comes with the latest system out for that 
machine at the time its shipped.


IF you have your own Keyboard and Monitor you can get a Mac Mini for as 
low as $499.00 for low end Model. As long as key board is a USB 2 or 3 
Keyboard will do just fine. Would be nice to use a Mac formatted 
Keyboard but can use a PC keyboard.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


and They have Decide to rename the new system System 10 to compete with
Mac OSX.10.10.1 (Yosemite).


No, that is not correct. Microsoft had to skip Windows *9* because, in
programming code where the version is searched, the Windows 95 and 98
versions would report positive.

if string found "Windows 9"
do [something]
else ...

They didn't discover this glitch until there was an alpha release of "9",
which was promptly dropped in favor of "10".  (One wonders if this will
have a problem with "Windows 1")

Windows versions are not called using the word "System."

Probably Didn't think that far ahead although Windows 1 and 2 didn't 
last that long  It was only when 3.1.1 came out did Windows take off. 
Then you had windows: 95, 98 then one or two in between which I have 
forgotten their code names that were less stellar, quickly replaced and 
forgotten about. (One I believe was called Windows ME).  Then NT Then 
from NT to XP Then 7 the 8, 8.8.1, now 10.


On Mac Side of Thing OS 1 and 2 were but experiments. Mac OS 3 was first 
serious system designed to work on Motorola 680X0 chips, 68000, 68010, 
68020, 68030 (By far the longest lasting series), then 68040 was the 
last these were CISC Chips. Then they switched to using a RISC Processor 
from Motorola That was originally used in a Work station that had 
computer, keyboard and monitor built into a Desk. I believe it was 
650xxx series. And you Started OSX.1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8.9,10 at OSX.4 point 
they switched to Intel Chips Up until OS8 they used an emulator called 
Rosetta that would all PowerPC coded applications work on Intel 
Machines. With OSX.7 they did not renew license for Rosetta and all apps 
had to work using Intel code.


RISC - Reduced Instruction Set Computing Very little Code just barely 
enough to get computer to boot burned into the code. System Code has to 
tell it practically everything Therefor size is large and Clunky and 
slow to load even with tons of system Ram But advantage is if you want 
add features without changing processors, you can.
CISC - Complex Instruction Set Computing Most code to do everything is 
built into chip. System is small Compact and loads very fast even on 
slow systems. Disadvantage where so much operation code is burned in It 
is difficult and or impossible add new features without creating a New 
Chip with new code burned in.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 17/01/2015 04:55, Rufus wrote:


Glad to read it's still under investigation!  Would be further encourage
to read that the developers are looking at more than one platform - the
thread seems to indicate they only looked at Windows.


I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?

Phil



...I'd like you to be more specific in the Release Notes.

Some one of you has a Mac - the task should have been passed off to that
individual.  If nobody can do that job, then perhaps you should stop
releasing a Mac version.



Sure.

Instead of trying to recruit some people that know Mac. Continue on with 
the treating Mac's as play toys and Mac users as second class citizens, 
since they came on the, air and Macs came on Market, over 20 years ago.


Mac, iPhone, iPads are the fast growing Market in computer industry 
today. Apple  is making the Most money of any Computer Tech company in 
existence today. Microsoft keeps sputtering and sputtering even more 
Window 8/8.1 Has not been the hit it should have been, and They have 
Decide to rename the new system System 10 to compete with Mac 
OSX.10.10.1 (Yosemite). Were it not for Microsoft Office (which by the 
way started of the components started of as Mac only products) MS would 
be fondly remember along with such names a Westinghouse, RCA, Sylvania, 
Philco,  DuMont, Macromedia, Netscape, Eudora, etc.


Its seems the majority of people have rebelled against being treated as 
5 year old children with Shinny buttons and want the experience of 
actually using a computer. Laid out like a computer. For PC people 
System 7 was the best and 10 will apparently back track some what, to 
System 7 at least in look and feel, If not operation. MS is even planing 
to Retire IE, and come out with a Shinny new replacement that works like 
Safari and Chrome.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Rufus wrote:


So why does this appear under "bugs fixed"?  I don't get the
documentation...I followed the bug thread, victory was declared for the
PC version, and then victory was advertized.

But it's broke on the Mac version, and now I get all these explanations
as to why - I certainly *believe* it's broke...I've watched it break.
But why do the developers think it's "fixed", and why didn't they point
out that it's only "fixed" for one case?  If it is...



It's not fix because the problem is with Ghostery. They no longer
support the pre-Australis interface. Search in Add-ins within SeaMonkey
and you will NOT find Ghostery. Either they will have to add in support,
or SeaMonkey will have to adopt Australis. Choose your poison. I when to
Bluhell Firewall. Works just as good and lighter...


I hope SeaMonkey doesn't. Big mistake if they do.

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Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


With latest SeaMonkey Version now Discover also does This. The Wheel
at To of SeaMonkey are not (or Mozilla) is not educating these financial
institutions.


I've seen you write coherent, grammatical English lots of times, so I
know you're capable of it, but the last sentence has me completely
baffled. I must assume that autocorrupt is interfering. What did you
mean to say?


Wrote too fast.  (brain going faster than fingers).

Should be:

With latest SeaMonkey Version; now Discover also does this. The Wheels 
at top of SeaMonkey(or Mozilla) are not not educating these financial 
institutions.


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Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32

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PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


With latest SeaMonkey Version now Discover also does This. The Wheel
at To of SeaMonkey are not (or Mozilla) is not educating these financial
institutions.


I've seen you write coherent, grammatical English lots of times, so I
know you're capable of it, but the last sentence has me completely
baffled. I must assume that autocorrupt is interfering. What did you
mean to say?


Wrote too fast.  (brain going faster than fingers).

Should be:

With latest SeaMonkey Version; now Discover also does this. The Wheels
at top of SeaMonkey(or Mozilla) are not educating these financial
institutions.



See I did it again I added one to many not's. I am removing rather than 
rewriting again.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 01/14/2015 09:01 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 01/14/2015 07:19 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.32!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/


And it was in the Ubuntuzilla repository immediately too!  Life is
good.
Now, to see if the "Usenet Binary Attachment" bug has been fixed...




Still waiting for it to show up in either the update or mozilla
repository for openSUSE.

No hurry, no Lightning for it.


Notice an issue with the latest release. I use a special program to make
Backup PDFs of receipts of Browser pages (Yojimbo) I noticed even though
when I go to Print > PDF > Save to: Yojimbo. The preview doesn't show it
but a new item I never seen before.

http://goo.gl/jWHBrM
I deliberately Blurred out any possible sensitive information.
Supposedly SeaMonkey is being advertised  as FireFox.

What do I need to fix to correct this the previous version doesn't
exhibit this. Problem.



That is probably "The SSL 3.0 encryption protocol is disabled by default
due to security concerns (bug 1076983). Legacy websites may still rely
on it and will not work with the newer TLS 1.x protocols. SSL 3.0
support can be re-enabled in Preferences under Privacy & Security, SSL."

[SeaMonkey 2.32 Release
Notes](http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/#issues)

Thanks. I've turned back on SSL3.  Next time I have to do this will see 
if this happens again.


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Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32

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Ken Rudolph wrote:

Thank you SeaMonkey team!  One seriously annoying bug fixed.  Still,
after several months, the Chase (and also the BofA) sites still have the
annoying and false disclaimer on their log-on page:  "Your browser may
not give you the best experience when you're on Chase.com.
We recommend that you use any of the following browsers: Internet
Explorer 8 or higher, Firefox 25 or higher, Safari 6.0 or higher, and
Chrome 31 or higher."

I wish there were some easy way to alter the user-agent line to
preference the Firefox version, since asking the banks to accept
SeaMonkey as a valid browser over and over gets nowhere.

 With latest SeaMonkey Version now Discover also does This. The Wheel 
at To of SeaMonkey are not (or Mozilla) is not educating these financial 
institutions.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 01/14/2015 07:19 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.32!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/


And it was in the Ubuntuzilla repository immediately too!  Life is good.
Now, to see if the "Usenet Binary Attachment" bug has been fixed...




Still waiting for it to show up in either the update or mozilla
repository for openSUSE.

No hurry, no Lightning for it.

Notice an issue with the latest release. I use a special program to make 
Backup PDFs of receipts of Browser pages (Yojimbo) I noticed even though 
when I go to Print > PDF > Save to: Yojimbo. The preview doesn't show it 
but a new item I never seen before.


http://goo.gl/jWHBrM
I deliberately Blurred out any possible sensitive information.
Supposedly SeaMonkey is being advertised  as FireFox.

What do I need to fix to correct this the previous version doesn't 
exhibit this. Problem.

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Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable?

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David H. Durgee wrote:

I am growing more and more tempted to abandon seamonkey due to the
continuing and expanding list of issues.  First is the password issue
that forces me to keep a tab open to the data manager in order to be
able to copy/paste passwords that are no longer being filled in after
2.26.1 was replaced.  Next was the problems with chase.com which is
holding me at the 2.30 level in hopes that the next release will
eliminate this problem that makes 2.31 unacceptable.  How much longer
can this go on?

The current firefox user interface is also unacceptable to me.  Is there
a way to port the seamonkey user interface in place of the firefox
interface?  If so, I might give serious consideration to moving to
firefox and thunderbird in place of seamonkey.

I would prefer to have seamonkey working as it did in 2.26.1 with all
the current security fixed applied, but I have my doubts if this will
ever be available.  For some reason the developers are more interested
in adding "features" than in fixing problems.

Dave


For get it. Even Microsoft has Put up the white Flag and said recently 
they are replacing it with Google Chrome/FireFox clone. It will look and 
feel almost identical to Chrome FireFox or a combination. I am Surprised 
The Kind folks at SeaMonkey has resisted the temptation to go like 
lemmings to the cliff like everyone else.


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Re: SM 2.31 unhappy, Firefox happy.

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A Williams wrote:

One of the websites I use a lot misbehaves with SM 2.31.  The Error
Console shows an insane number of errors/warnings (starting from the
oldest):

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:48:15
Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection.
Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js
Line: 198

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:46:53
Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined
Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml
Line: 331
(7 of those)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Error: SyntaxError: illegal character
Source File:
https://pixel.quantserve.com/pixel/p-mBVrc_qCgY3g5.gif?media=ad&labels=_imp.adserver.doubleclick,_imp.publisher.75295,_imp.placement.284192221,_imp.creative.55719018

Line: 1, Column: 6
Source Code:
GIF89a

followed by 0001 in a box

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:09
Error: pixel.rubiconproject.com : server does not support RFC 5746, see
CVE-2009-3555
(3 of these)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-clip'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://i.r1-cdn.net/static/css/ilike.css
Line: 423, Column: 22
Source Code:
   -moz-background-clip: padding;

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:10
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-border-radius'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://i.r1-cdn.net/static/css/ilike.css
Line: 421, Column: 20
Source Code:
   -moz-border-radius: 0 0 0 3px;
(** a large number of the previous 2 errors **)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:04
Warning: Unknown property '-moz-box-shadow'.  Declaration dropped.
Followed by an incredibly long string

Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-size'.  Declaration dropped.
(lots of these)

Timestamp: 20.12.2014 19:43:04
Warning: Error in parsing value for 'display'.  Declaration dropped.
Followed by another very long string

Warning: Unknown property '-moz-flex-basis'.  Declaration dropped.
(hundreds of the last two errors)

complaints about column-rule, column-gap, column-count (unknown
properties, Declaration dropped)

Warning: Unknown property '-moz-background-size'.  Declaration dropped.
(lots of these)

The full list would blow any size restrictions on this Newsgroup.
SM 2.30 and the current Firefox can both handle the page.
This affects Linux and Windows 7.

Should I be looking for 2.32 beta versions?  Or should I fallback to 2.30?
If its like usually what happens things get worse, than better. So go 
back to a none beta version and stay there. Developers now are more 
interested in getting out a new version as fast as they can and 
reliability goes out the window. Quality control no longer exist. 
Thankfully he SeaMonkey, usually try to do a better job. I use to use 
beta versions. But go tired of when send feedback or post bug reports 
not being listened to. So I just go with latest working version of 
SeaMonkey and hope for the best.


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Re: SM and Yosemite

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Geoff Welsh wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

HilsB wrote:

How well does SM integrate with Yosemite on Macs?
Any experiences good or bad appreciated.


Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the
cache
Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty Trash Button inside the
regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work


  supposed to be:

 > Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the
cache
 > Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty *cache* Button inside
the
 > regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work
 >


I am not using Yosemite, but Lion on Mac. I believe the Cache does
indeed work. The preference button does clear the cache, even though
the
cache size number remains unchanged. To prove the cache is cleared use
the preference to clear the cache. Now type "about:cache" in the
address
bar in the browser window and press return and you will see that the
cache has been reset to zero.

The most recent SeaMonkey did empty cache by going to advanced
preferences and clicking empty cache. After switch to Yosemite. That no
longer works only using the empty cache button on the PerfBar menu.


You can still clear the cache using SeaMonkey's own UI.

1) Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Cache:
Click the [Clear Cache] button

OR

2) (from a browser window) Tools | Clear Private Data (shortcut:
Ctrl-Shift-Del), provided you have checked the "Cache" button at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data.

And of course, if you've specified in the same dialog that private data
should be cleared on exit, SM will do so automatically each time you
close the program.


The cache empty does work in SeaMonkey up to Mavericks (OSX.9.5)
But does not with Yosemite.  At least I haven't been able to get it to
empty. Except through empty cache button on Prefbar.




if you disabled PrefBar extension, would the internal SM way work then?

Extensions are usually the cause of any problem, after an SM
updateI'm just extending that logic to an OS "upgrade".

GW

no still doesn't

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Re: SM and Yosemite

[PhillipJones]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

HilsB wrote:

How well does SM integrate with Yosemite on Macs?
Any experiences good or bad appreciated.


Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache
Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty Trash Button inside the
regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work


  supposed to be:

 > Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the
cache
 > Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty *cache* Button inside the
 > regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work
 >


I am not using Yosemite, but Lion on Mac. I believe the Cache does
indeed work. The preference button does clear the cache, even though the
cache size number remains unchanged. To prove the cache is cleared use
the preference to clear the cache. Now type "about:cache" in the address
bar in the browser window and press return and you will see that the
cache has been reset to zero.

The most recent SeaMonkey did empty cache by going to advanced
preferences and clicking empty cache. After switch to Yosemite. That no
longer works only using the empty cache button on the PerfBar menu.


You can still clear the cache using SeaMonkey's own UI.

1) Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Cache:
Click the [Clear Cache] button

OR

2) (from a browser window) Tools | Clear Private Data (shortcut:
Ctrl-Shift-Del), provided you have checked the "Cache" button at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data.

And of course, if you've specified in the same dialog that private data
should be cleared on exit, SM will do so automatically each time you
close the program.


The cache empty does work in SeaMonkey up to Mavericks (OSX.9.5)
But does not with Yosemite.  At least I haven't been able to get it to 
empty. Except through empty cache button on Prefbar.



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Re: SM and Yosemite

[PhillipJones]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

HilsB wrote:

How well does SM integrate with Yosemite on Macs?
Any experiences good or bad appreciated.


Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache
Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty Trash Button inside the
regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work


  supposed to be:

 > Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache
 > Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty *cache* Button inside the
 > regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work
 >


I am not using Yosemite, but Lion on Mac. I believe the Cache does
indeed work. The preference button does clear the cache, even though the
cache size number remains unchanged. To prove the cache is cleared use
the preference to clear the cache. Now type "about:cache" in the address
bar in the browser window and press return and you will see that the
cache has been reset to zero.
The most recent SeaMonkey did empty cache by going to advanced 
preferences and clicking empty cache. After switch to Yosemite. That no 
longer works only using the empty cache button on the PerfBar menu.


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Re: SM and Yosemite

[PhillipJones]

PhillipJones wrote:

HilsB wrote:

How well does SM integrate with Yosemite on Macs?
Any experiences good or bad appreciated.


Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache
Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty Trash Button inside the
regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work


 supposed to be:

> Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache
> Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty *cache* Button inside the
> regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work
>

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Re: SM and Yosemite

[PhillipJones]

HilsB wrote:

How well does SM integrate with Yosemite on Macs?
Any experiences good or bad appreciated.


Well the only issue I have run across is That I can't empty the cache 
Unless I have PerfBar installed the empty Trash Button inside the 
regular Preferences (Advanced Menu > Cache doesn't work


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Re: 2.30 upgrade breaks seamonkey

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Bill Davidsen wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/16/2014 04:41 AM, jkdingw...@gmail.com wrote:

I allowed SeaMonkey to auto-update from 2.29.1 to 2.30 this morning
but it
appears to have broken the install for me and I'm unable to recover.
The
symptoms are that SeaMonkey will start but all windows have a normal
border
with all content being black.  OS is Windows 7 Professional SP1
(64-bit).  I
have tried the following steps to try and make it work:

Delete C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey and reinstall
Update video display drivers (Nvidia NVS 4200M)
Manually create a new profile by editing profiles.ini to add an extra
entry
Delete registry keys relating to SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape from
HKCU/Software
and HKLM/Software.

Reverting to 2.29.1 restores the correct behaviour.

Has anyone else seen and solved a similar issue or is this worthy of
a bug
report?




Disable hardware acceleration in SM 2.30. Edit > Preferences >
Appearance >
Content.


How do you do that? The pages are all black, a tribute to a minimalist
theme, but not a good GUI.



Thank the Lord I haven't updated yet.
 The developers a Mozilla (SeaMonkey are getting as bad as Adobe or 
intuit).


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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

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OldGuy wrote:

What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!

How to fix please or I dump SeaMonkey?



Go Edit menu > Mail & Newsgroups click on SMTP and click Add name it 
smtp.hotmail.com (or .net or what ever) and set up as hotmail says set 
up  then save. You can use more than SMTP setting. I  have two one for 
comcast and one for Gmail


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Re: 2.29 Not Ready For Prime Time?

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NoOp wrote:

On 09/19/2014 05:45 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 09/18/2014 07:24 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 09/17/2014 06:45 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I have regularly installed each Sea Monkey update as they came along,
even with the occasional "warts". Now I'm uncertain, for the first time,
about updating to 2.29. As I read this news group, I see reports of many
more issues than normally come with new releases.

Some of these are:
--All the issues caused by the Remember Password extension,
 a major concern for me if it can't be used.
--Address book sorting and searching.
--Can't see jpgs in news groups.
--History issues.
--Confusing change in the cache.
--Freezes.
--"Won't start" issues.
--Mail folder errors and confused behavior.
--Flash plug-in problems.

Yes, there is apparently a workaround for the password problem, but it's
awkward at best.

So--can anyone reassure me that I won't be bedeviled by problems if I
update? I'd really like to, but am hesitant right now.

Thank you for any thoughts and advice.

Larry S.

For Me Seamonkey has worked with no issues (i have observed). IMHO 2.29
has been a good update and is definitely ready for prime time!!!


+1

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29




Just noticed you can't clear the cache file.



I wasn't able to clear cache from Prefbar, but I was able to clear it
from Preferences|Advanced|Cache. I'll need to figure out the new modify
to clear using the new entries;
<http://www.janbambas.cz/new-firefox-http-cache-enabled/>

browser.cache.disk.metadata_memory_limit
currently set to:
browser.cache.disk.metadata_memory_limit;250
and
browser.cache.disk.preload_chunk_count
currently set to:
browser.cache.disk.preload_chunk_count;4





That what I tried to use was Preference >Advanced > Cache



about:cache

disk
Number of entries:  2183
Maximum storage size:   256000 KiB
Storage in use: 32923 KiB
Storage disk location:
/home//.cache/mozilla/seamonkey/j0nvvxyz.default/cache2
List Cache Entries

And now clearing cache from Preferences|Advanced|Cache:

disk
Number of entries:  0
Maximum storage size:   256000 KiB
Storage in use: 0 KiB
Storage disk location:
/home//.cache/mozilla/seamonkey/j0nvvxyz.default/cache2

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29

Still can't use Button in Preferences but for Some Strange Reason PreBar 
can.

Just a new unfixable bug added.

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Re: 2.29 Not Ready For Prime Time?

[PhillipJones]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/18/2014 07:24 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 09/17/2014 06:45 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I have regularly installed each Sea Monkey update as they came along,
even with the occasional "warts". Now I'm uncertain, for the first time,
about updating to 2.29. As I read this news group, I see reports of many
more issues than normally come with new releases.

Some of these are:
--All the issues caused by the Remember Password extension,
a major concern for me if it can't be used.
--Address book sorting and searching.
--Can't see jpgs in news groups.
--History issues.
--Confusing change in the cache.
--Freezes.
--"Won't start" issues.
--Mail folder errors and confused behavior.
--Flash plug-in problems.

Yes, there is apparently a workaround for the password problem, but it's
awkward at best.

So--can anyone reassure me that I won't be bedeviled by problems if I
update? I'd really like to, but am hesitant right now.

Thank you for any thoughts and advice.

Larry S.

For Me Seamonkey has worked with no issues (i have observed). IMHO 2.29
has been a good update and is definitely ready for prime time!!!


+1

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29




Just noticed you can't clear the cache file.



I wasn't able to clear cache from Prefbar, but I was able to clear it
from Preferences|Advanced|Cache. I'll need to figure out the new modify
to clear using the new entries;
<http://www.janbambas.cz/new-firefox-http-cache-enabled/>

browser.cache.disk.metadata_memory_limit
currently set to:
browser.cache.disk.metadata_memory_limit;250
and
browser.cache.disk.preload_chunk_count
currently set to:
browser.cache.disk.preload_chunk_count;4





That what I tried to use was Preference >Advanced > Cache

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Re: 2.29 Not Ready For Prime Time?

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NoOp wrote:

On 09/17/2014 06:45 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I have regularly installed each Sea Monkey update as they came along,
even with the occasional "warts". Now I'm uncertain, for the first time,
about updating to 2.29. As I read this news group, I see reports of many
more issues than normally come with new releases.

Some of these are:
--All the issues caused by the Remember Password extension,
   a major concern for me if it can't be used.
--Address book sorting and searching.
--Can't see jpgs in news groups.
--History issues.
--Confusing change in the cache.
--Freezes.
--"Won't start" issues.
--Mail folder errors and confused behavior.
--Flash plug-in problems.

Yes, there is apparently a workaround for the password problem, but it's
awkward at best.

So--can anyone reassure me that I won't be bedeviled by problems if I
update? I'd really like to, but am hesitant right now.

Thank you for any thoughts and advice.

Larry S.

For Me Seamonkey has worked with no issues (i have observed). IMHO 2.29
has been a good update and is definitely ready for prime time!!!


+1

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/32.0 SeaMonkey/2.29




Just noticed you can't clear the cache file.

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Re: SM 2.29 no Flash plugin

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EE wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

SeaMonkey updated to 2.29 on Sept 9.

Just tried to play a Flash video at nbc.com and SM said I needed to
install a plugin. I let proceed and closed SM when the installer said
to.  Restarted SM.  Went to add-ons manager, no Flash plugin, only
Quicktime.

Uninstalled SM. Downloaded full installer from Mozilla. Installed.  Ran
Flash installer. Firefox has the Flash plugin, SM does not. Anyone else?


I wonder if having Firefox installed as well as SeaMonkey is relevant?
Could it be that the Flash installer looks for Firefox, finds it,
installs for Firefox, then stops looking so never even tries to install
for SeaMonkey?

Mark.


Not true of Mac OS. Any browser will see the plugin and use it.

On mac Plugins are are installed in the User/Internet Plugins Folder or 
the the Main Library /Internet Plugins Folder and is shared by all 
Browsers/email Clients that use plug ins.


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Re: SM 2.29 no Flash plugin

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 9/15/14 8:08 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 9/15/2014 5:13 AM, Desiree wrote:

On 9/14/2014 6:37 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

SeaMonkey updated to 2.29 on Sept 9.

Just tried to play a Flash video at nbc.com and SM said I needed to
install a plugin. I let proceed and closed SM when the installer said
to.  Restarted SM.  Went to add-ons manager, no Flash plugin, only
Quicktime.

Uninstalled SM. Downloaded full installer from Mozilla. Installed.  Ran
Flash installer. Firefox has the Flash plugin, SM does not. Anyone
else?


Works fine for me.  NBC has zero problems running a video full screen
with no controls showing at the bottom.

You sure you installed the correct Flash Player ...the one for all
browsers except IE?  Check it here:

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

Try to install from here:

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html


Interesting note on that page:
"Flash Player 11.2 is the *last* supported Flash Player version for
Linux OS."



The same applies to Solaris. While Solaris seeing only security updates
from here on is kind of obvious, the same cannot be said for Linux.
Colour me surprised.

I'd be interested to note what number of SeaMonkey installations are on
OS X versus Linux. I think that's a relevant metric of comparison.

Every one has to remember: Mac OSX is "FreeBSD Unix under the hood not 
Linux.


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Re: SM 2.29 no Flash plugin

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Rufus wrote:

EE wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

SeaMonkey updated to 2.29 on Sept 9.

Just tried to play a Flash video at nbc.com and SM said I needed to
install a plugin. I let proceed and closed SM when the installer said
to.  Restarted SM.  Went to add-ons manager, no Flash plugin, only
Quicktime.

Uninstalled SM. Downloaded full installer from Mozilla. Installed.  Ran
Flash installer. Firefox has the Flash plugin, SM does not. Anyone else?


Flash works fine for me, but I am using Mac OS, not Windows.



Ditto.


WFM. Also use Mac

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Re: SM 2.29 - Random Master Password Prompting...

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Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/12/2014 2:00 PM, Rufus wrote:

Is still happening...Pref setting is being seemingly ignored.



The master password is requested when a stored password exists for a
login even if Password Manager fails to insert the stored password into
the password input form.  This is a symptom of bug #1064639; see
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639>.



The root of the problem IMO is that the Pref setting for Master Password
prompt is being ignored - I have my Pref set to only ask the first time
the Master Password is required.  What is happening is that I'm being
prompted for the Master Password even though I'm *not* navigating to
sites that require a password - stored or not.

If this happens in the middle of a Download dialog SM freezes, I have to
Force Quit SM and I lose the session - download and all - and have to
start over again.

This has been broken for a *long* time...it used to work properly, now
it does not...like just now, as I'm typing this Reply and not navigating
to anything...

I've always had Master Password set so that as soon as you open 
SeaMonkey it ask for master Password.


I hate the way its setup in FireFox (though it says it is set the same) 
In which it allow the application to open then ask for password the 
first time you open a site that needs a Password.


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Re: Remember Passwords add-on function - how can we get it back in 2.29 now?

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EE wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Thanks to keeping an eye on this newsgroup, I have avoided the worst of
the problems others have reported by disabling the "Remember Passwords"
add-on prior to upgrading SeaMonkey to the 2.29 release.  While I have
avoided the worst I am still seeing problems.  Seven web sites that I
was able to access with ease before the upgrade are now a problem,
requiring me to go to a data manager tab and copy a password as opposed
to simply having it filled in automatically.  This is annoying!

Is the developer of the Remember Passwords add-on still active?  Could
he issue an update that works with 2.29 that will bring back the lost
function?  If not, can the developers incorporate the complete function,
not the partial fix they obviously have implemented, as release a 2.29.1
with it quickly?

Thank you for any assistance you can give in getting this back to
working as it did with 2.26.2 and the Remember Passwords add-on.

Dave


Why do you need an add-on to get passwords to be saved?  SeaMonkey can
save passwords itself.

There are certain passwords SM refuses to save because of request from 
certain parties. Remember passwords let you remember all passwords.


The parties that requested that passwords are Paranoid and if you you 
set up SM to require passwords to open like you should be doing  its 
totally unnecessary. If a third party can't open or even if they can 
open they still can't doing anything as par as going into sites with 
passwords.



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Re: Latest version SeaMonkey will not download any email/news

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PhillipJones wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Updated SeaMonkey to latest version 29.
After which all ability to download any email or news stopped.
Would sit there grinding try to find something to download.

I opened FireFox and went xfinity website and signed into email and show
16 pieces of email waiting to be read.

Closed Firefox. Reopened SeaMonkey again.
Manually click on Get Email.
Same thing just sit there, grinding  but not finding anything.

Used Time Machine to go back just before new version installed and
restored old version.

Opened and mail download so fast I could barely see it download. (This
late at night my comcast connection is pretty decent.)

I might try again, if it does again I will restore back to this version
and forget it.

Using Mac Version.


Well I tried again. Met the same issue unread messages  I had be fr the
update I tried to post an answer some strange message came up about can
not password or username.  This this is a bunch of junk.
Probably some genius wanted to improve something already working
perfect. Doubt it can be repaired in another 3 months.

I am bypassing this up date and wait until the next couple of updates.

And if you've killed some extension please tells us what they are so we
can fix them or dump them.

Okay tried again after reading about removing the extension. Yep that 
fixed it.


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Re: Latest version SeaMonkey will not download any email/news

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PhillipJones wrote:

Updated SeaMonkey to latest version 29.
After which all ability to download any email or news stopped.
Would sit there grinding try to find something to download.

I opened FireFox and went xfinity website and signed into email and show
16 pieces of email waiting to be read.

Closed Firefox. Reopened SeaMonkey again.
Manually click on Get Email.
Same thing just sit there, grinding  but not finding anything.

Used Time Machine to go back just before new version installed and
restored old version.

Opened and mail download so fast I could barely see it download. (This
late at night my comcast connection is pretty decent.)

I might try again, if it does again I will restore back to this version
and forget it.

Using Mac Version.

Well I tried again. Met the same issue unread messages  I had be fr the 
update I tried to post an answer some strange message came up about can 
not password or username.  This this is a bunch of junk.
Probably some genius wanted to improve something already working 
perfect. Doubt it can be repaired in another 3 months.


I am bypassing this up date and wait until the next couple of updates.

And if you've killed some extension please tells us what they are so we 
can fix them or dump them.


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Latest version SeaMonkey will not download any email/news

[PhillipJones]

Updated SeaMonkey to latest version 29.
After which all ability to download any email or news stopped.
Would sit there grinding try to find something to download.

I opened FireFox and went xfinity website and signed into email and show 
16 pieces of email waiting to be read.


Closed Firefox. Reopened SeaMonkey again.
Manually click on Get Email.
Same thing just sit there, grinding  but not finding anything.

Used Time Machine to go back just before new version installed and 
restored old version.


Opened and mail download so fast I could barely see it download. (This 
late at night my comcast connection is pretty decent.)


I might try again, if it does again I will restore back to this version 
and forget it.


Using Mac Version.

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Re: Modern Theme

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PhillipJones wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 


Ed Mullen pounded out :

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:

<http://edmullen.net/temp/sm01b.jpg>

<http://edmullen.net/temp/sm02.jpg>

Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?



Hmm.  Made a new profile.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.
Obviously installing those themes changed something.  And it didn't go
away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager.

Closed SM.  Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile.  Started
SM.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.

I find that pretty strange.


The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension.
Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully.

what is the name of this extension.
Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?)



I Found it was extension for that new Theme. I removed the theme and the 
extension and back to normal.


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Re: Modern Theme

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Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 


Ed Mullen pounded out :

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?



Hmm.  Made a new profile.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.
Obviously installing those themes changed something.  And it didn't go
away when I chose Remove in Add-ons Manager.

Closed SM.  Deleted the two theme .xpi files in my old profile.  Started
SM.  Same squared-off scroll bars I'm used to.

I find that pretty strange.


The modified scrollbars are installed separately as an extension.
Uninstalling the extension removes them. Thankfully.

what is the name of this extension.
Maybe they are try out apple's succomorphism (?)

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Re: Modern Theme

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Okay.  I may be losing my mind.

I tried those themes mentioned in the thread: "New Complete Themes for
SeaMonkey"

I removed them.

I just noticed that the scroll bars in SeaMonkey are different.  Notice
the vertical scroll bars in these screen shots:





Umm, have they looked like that before?  Or did temporarily installing
those themes somehow permanently modify the packaged Modern theme?  Or
am I just losing it?

I had that to happen to me after I tried that new Fangled Metal Line 
when I turned it on it was Black on Black with some blue. Worst than 
awful. After I switched back to my Orbits 3 +1 the sliders all had this 
rounded affect.  There you to be a file you dump and would cure 
appearance screw-ups when you tried different Themes it was something 
RDF. One had to do it twice since I've used Communicator, Mozilla, 
SeaMonkey.


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Re: New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey

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Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

[Metal Lion Sea Monkey & Silver Sea Monkey • mozillaZine
Forums](http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13627241&sid=fa812c7ba3c3d7b6888f86b312479715#p13627241)




Screenshots in the forum post.



Both of these aren't bad...but I don't particularly like having to
cntrl+click to find a Close Tab dialog instead of just being able to
click a close X on the Tab or at the right corner of the page.

Back to SM Modern...



I miss the Sidebar grippie too...



Orbits 3 + 1 has the grippies and I use it just for that purpose. That 
one of the best best features Themes use to have. I still miss it to 
this day. In all the other themes. That is the most valuable feature in 
ever in a SeaMonkey theme.


You don't realize what an advantage when reading Mail to be able to 
click on the grippies and it switch to a just a listing of topics so you 
can mark read without having to read. That is even more important than 
having tabs.

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Re: New Complete Themes for SeaMonkey

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Danny Kile wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

[Metal Lion Sea Monkey & Silver Sea Monkey • mozillaZine
Forums](http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13627241&sid=fa812c7ba3c3d7b6888f86b312479715#p13627241)



Screenshots in the forum post.



I am using the new Metal Lion theme and enjoy it. I have always used Sky
Pilot for so long I can not remember how far back, of course it is no
longer supported in SeaMonkey.

Thank you for this theme.


I use Orbit 3 +1

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Re: How to stop full screen mode on Mac?

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EE wrote:

Georg Maaß wrote:

How to stop full screen mode on Mac?

Esc key does not help. (does nothing)
F11 key does not help. (dimms the speaker)
F11 key together with fn key does not help. (does something strange)

Quit and restart starts again in full screen mode.

How can I stop it?


Cmd-Shift-F
To prevent that from being done arbitrarily by web page code, change
this setting in about:config:
full-screen-api.enabled -> false
If your in Full screen Mode move the Mouse or Track Pad all the way to 
top of the screen (imaging Bumping into a wall deliberately) you will 
see menu appear in bright Blue
scroll to the right where you will see a box with two arrows <--> only 
they will be diagonal / click on that and you will get out of full 
screen mode.


If these groups would allow screen shots I could show you. Picture are 
worth a thousand words. A short movie worth 10 thousand or more.


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Re: how to make letters bigger (messages listings)

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Ed Mullen wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

dirk wrote:

does anyone know how to make the letters bigger in the messages
listings? I know how to do that in the message text, but the listings
are still really small. please help.


Until version 2.1 of SM Phil Chee had created an altered version of
NoSquint for SM. And despite pleas and begging for an update  Its fallen
on death ears.

You can get sort of the same effect with going to view Menu and choose
120% or 150% but it doesn't stick, as soon as you go to another website
it reverts and when you go back it reverts again.  And the disadvantage
is that unlike NoSquint the zoom zoom zooms everything.

With NoSquint you had two sliders one for Text and one for everything
else.

I contacted the author about creating a version for SeaMonkey and
explaining that it uses the same Browser engine as FireFox. But he was
actually down right hostile when asked, nicely.

So the only method is go t view menu . Zoom and choose 120-150& or
choose other and type in 140% which is Ideal.



The OP was asking about mail/news, not the browser.

And, as I said in reply to you elswhere, NoSquint capability has been
built in to SM for quite some time.  It remembers zoom levels on a
per-site basis.

Edit - Preferences - Appearance - Content - check "Remember zoom levels
on a per-site basis."

Or, about:config, browser.zoom.siteSpecific - default is true.


Actually it doesn't  NoSquint had the ability to adjust just the text, 
or the content of site other than the text.  Or both and you could set 
the zoom level infinitely. (Two Sliders).
Open FireFox install NoSquint and check how it really works. Runs rings 
around the Built in Zoom in SeaMonkey.


I have remember zoom levels checked.

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Re: how to make letters bigger (messages listings)

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dirk wrote:

does anyone know how to make the letters bigger in the messages
listings? I know how to do that in the message text, but the listings
are still really small. please help.


Until version 2.1 of SM Phil Chee had created an altered version of 
NoSquint for SM. And despite pleas and begging for an update  Its fallen 
on death ears.


You can get sort of the same effect with going to view Menu and choose 
120% or 150% but it doesn't stick, as soon as you go to another website 
it reverts and when you go back it reverts again.  And the disadvantage 
is that unlike NoSquint the zoom zoom zooms everything.


With NoSquint you had two sliders one for Text and one for everything else.

I contacted the author about creating a version for SeaMonkey and 
explaining that it uses the same Browser engine as FireFox. But he was 
actually down right hostile when asked, nicely.


So the only method is go t view menu . Zoom and choose 120-150& or 
choose other and type in 140% which is Ideal.


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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:


Trane Francks wrote:


SeaMonkey's lineage is directly traceable to Netscape Navigator 1.0.
SeaMonkey will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year.


Er, no (not unless you believe in time-travel !); it is /Netscape/ that
"will effectively be having its 20th birthday this year", and as
someone
who has used every version from Netscape 1.0 to Seamonkey 2.17,
I would like to wish Netscape a Very Happy Birthday indeed !


What's in a name? That which we call SeaMonkey, by any other name would
smell as sweet...


And as for there being a continuous chain, my current mail files began
life in Netscape.  They have always been on a separate partition from
the apps, so when I got a new version of the app I just told it to use
the existing files.


Mine too, but I don't remember the number of the first version of
Netscape I used.

Mine was 3.0.1. Gold cost me $39.95 receive in Mail a CD and a 200 page 
paperback book.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

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Rufus wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:



Ron Hunter wrote:


I would like to see a single click on the URL in the URL bar to select
the whole URL like it does in Firefox.  That's why I am not using
SeaMonkey as my primary browser.


Does just that here.  Seamonkey 2.17.1, Windows 7 Enterprise.
Philip Taylor


Does that for me too...


Does for me in 2.26 one click and the whole URL is selected.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

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Rufus wrote:

Ron Hunter wrote:

On 5/13/2014 4:41 PM, Philip Taylor wrote:



Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using
the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.

And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
any further "development" takes place.

Philip Taylor


Philip, there is no such thing as bugless software of the complexity of
SeaMonkey.  If you tried to do what you ask, then no further development
would ever take place, and the browser would soon become unusable as the
web slowly changed.



...personally, I don't think SM is all that "complex"...it's not like it
does 3D graphic presentations with interactive panning and rotation or
anything math-intensive like that.

Still Rather Complex to do Email Newsgroup Web Browsing ant one it could 
do FTP.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

EE wrote:


Does HTML5 video go to real full-screen at all?  That has not been my
experience.



HTML5 from YouTube does not... however HTML5 video when you use the
 HTML5 tag does.  If you don't believe me, look at the videos on
my motorcycle club's webpage and see for yourself.

http://www.nassauwings.org/cgi-local/PhotoAlbum.rex



Not here.  SM 2.26.  All videos in little windows.


I have 2.26 and the video play Perfectly.

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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

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Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/13/2014 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.


Do you mean bug #425145: "Hidden pref to save ID and password when
autocomplete="off" (signon.overrideAutocomplete)"?  If so, the fix for
that should already be in SeaMonkey 2.26 with a follow-up fix to bug
#956906 -- "ignore autocomplete="off" when offering to save passwords
via the password manager" -- possibly in the next SeaMonkey version
(2.27?).



No, not that one...but go ahead and fix that one too.

The one I'm referring to is one I wrote: bug #724296, "SM 2.x Mac
prompts for Master Password when seemingly not required".  SM is still
asking for my Master Password at seemingly "random" intervals during a
session even though my Pref is set to only ask for it the first time it
is required...I often use SM without even visiting a site where I need
to use a password, yet if that session is long enough SM will ask for my
Master, I will click Cancel, and then SM will start asking over and over
again until I either close the session or enter the Master.  And even
worse, if this happens in the middle of a download in progress SM
freezes and I lose the session - download and all.  This got broken
around SM 1.1.something and has been broken ever since.

And bug #724263, and is now titled "SeaMonkey on Mac OS X does not open
HTML files or hyperlinks correctly when using the profile
manager"...which I haven't been using since the Developers suggest not
using the Profile Manager as a "fix"...but that isn't a fix, and SM
*still* does not follow OS X on disk path specs from top level when used
as the default browser.

I think there was also a second suggestion as to why I should stop using
the PM at start up, but I can't recall why that was - but it seems that
there are some basic OS X interface issues floating around out there
that need to be addressed.

And I've also noted that there appear to be two differing code paths
within SM for invocation of the Profile Manager - invoking Switch
Profile from within the Browser displays a different graphic (the older
1.x.x one) than if one invokes Profile Manager at start up.

Its Odd that I have never seen this Bug. But then from the first time it 
was offered in I believe in Communicator, or or at least Mozilla I set 
up a Master Password and set it to be typed in when first open 
SeaMonkey. I like that much better than in FireFox where You can Open 
without  typing password in But every time you need a Password you have 
to type in the master password.


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Re: Wishlist of things I'd like to see

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Rufus wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:



Rufus wrote:


...I'd like to see all of the bugs that are preventing me from using the
Profile Manager fixed, and for SM to actually use my pref setting for
Master Password.

And fix the bug for following on-disk paths for .html files so I can
stop having to use Safari to open my Epson Help manual.


And my wish is even simpler :  that all documented bugs are fixed before
any further "development" takes place.

Philip Taylor


Amen.


+++

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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

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Ant wrote:

On 5/12/2014 1:40 PM PT, EE typed:

The old Mozilla suite was the predecessor of SeaMonkey.


You forgot Netscape days. :P


And Communicator before that.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

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chicagofan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:38:06 UTC+1, PhillipJones  wrote:


SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for
desktop.

Now except for SeaMonkey and IE all Browser look a like. You open one
it's a carbon copy of 9-10 others. <> Change the guts to improve how
SM works. Yes But leave the UI alone. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
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I forgot to pay tribute to the sensible version numbering of SeaMonkey
as well...



I forgot to thank the SM developers and contributors for all their time
and hard work that may sometimes seem "thankless".. although it never is
to the SM community.  We may seem like an ungrateful lot, but we really
do appreciate what you do.  :)

Barbara


I two thank SeaMonkey Folks for being  True to their roots and being 
Sane influence in this Insane Mozilla Attempt to be a Replacement for 
Chrome.


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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

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Ant wrote:

On 5/10/2014 8:26 AM PT, A Williams typed:


Will FireFox 29's new look will find its way into SeaMonkey, or will
SeaMonkey continue to allow its users to customize the UI?


This question has been asked here a few times over the last few months.
  The answer has always been no.


But will this be forever? Will SM always be using the same design
forever? :P

Probably not. But hopefully by that time I will be pushing up daises.

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Re: What's with the returned mails?

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The messages obviously show in the newsgroups so the return are false.

PhillipJones wrote:

You keep send the mails back:

Here is portion of the return message:

"Your message was not delivered successfully.

   Subject:   Re: SeaMonkey futures...
   Sent:  Sat, 10 May 2014 19:41:40 -0400

  The message could not be delivered to the following recipient:
  support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org



Final-Recipient: rfc822; support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0


Re: SeaMonkey futureseml"

I haven't check in through the Maillist years. I feel maybe I need you
date my email address or password .

I go strictly though NNTP News.

Tell me where to go to fix the issue.



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What's with the returned mails?

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You keep send the mails back:

Here is portion of the return message:

"Your message was not delivered successfully.

  Subject:   Re: SeaMonkey futures...
  Sent:  Sat, 10 May 2014 19:41:40 -0400

 The message could not be delivered to the following recipient:
 support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org



Final-Recipient: rfc822; support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0


Re: SeaMonkey futureseml"

I haven't check in through the Maillist years. I feel maybe I need you 
date my email address or password .


I go strictly though NNTP News.

Tell me where to go to fix the issue.
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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

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A Williams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/10/2014 8:26 AM, A Williams wrote:

Robert wrote:


I've recently "upgraded" to FireFox v29, and I do not like the new
"dumbed-down" user interface.

I've looked at the screenshots of SeaMonkey and they look like
FireFox used
to look.

Before I go through the motions of downloading, installing, and
configuring
SeaMonkey are my primary browser I have one question:

Will FireFox 29's new look will find its way into SeaMonkey, or will
SeaMonkey continue to allow its users to customize the UI?

Thanks for any replies.



This question has been asked here a few times over the last few months.
   The answer has always been no.



And the answer to that answer has always been "Hooray!!"



It would be like a blunt pencil.  Pointless.
I think Firefox wants one look-and-feel for all systems - phone, tablet,
PC.  Seamonkey simply does not make sense on a phone or tablet.
Not unless the tablet had a minimum of 13" screen anything less and you 
need a Telescope to see it.


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Re: SeaMonkey futures...

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/10/2014 8:26 AM, A Williams wrote:

Robert wrote:


I've recently "upgraded" to FireFox v29, and I do not like the new
"dumbed-down" user interface.

I've looked at the screenshots of SeaMonkey and they look like FireFox used
to look.

Before I go through the motions of downloading, installing, and configuring
SeaMonkey are my primary browser I have one question:

Will FireFox 29's new look will find its way into SeaMonkey, or will
SeaMonkey continue to allow its users to customize the UI?

Thanks for any replies.



This question has been asked here a few times over the last few months.
   The answer has always been no.



And the answer to that answer has always been "Hooray!!"


And Hallelujah!!!

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SM Does not Print

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I have issues with the current SeaMonkey (and FireFox)  Not allowing my 
Printer to Print in fact it ends up (printer) coming up with an error 
message that Printer has been shut down improperly. I have to turn off 
and unplug power, plug back in, then turn Back on


Works on all other applications.

Printer is an HP InkJet C310 ePrinter

Mac OSX.9.2 (Mavericks)

I've had to work around the problem By creating a PDF of the file and 
Ope Acrobat and would Print just fine.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

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sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to "remain the
same" if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail & browser, but only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen molasses...



 What we want is increase in speed and efficiency and ability to 
read/Play more audio/video types.


What we referring to when we say no change is no change in the User 
interface to emulate Chrome like FireFox has done. Excuse me  I shout 
just a Few words. They are not insulting to any one.


WE DO NOT WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE 4 YEAR OLD'S.

That what the new UI in the Australis Style FF is Treating us like we 
have the IQ of 4 year Old's. I get along just fine with Menu Bar and 
menus with sub menu.


And FF people say get the UI (theme restorer) Problem is it doesn't It 
about 60 percent does. And Why if there was such a clamoring for the 
Restorer extension, didn't the folks at Mozilla Learn maybe this Chrome 
experience was bad idea.


Now except for SeaMonkey and IE all Browser look a like. You open one 
it’s a carbon copy of 9-10 others.


Folks! We want to be different, look different, think different.

Change the guts to improve how SM works. Yes But leave the UI alone.

Lets compare to MS Windows, Since MS has Changed to Version 8 with all 
the cutesy 4 year Old type Buttons. Many have Reverted back to 7 and 
with Few exception it been panned most Users and  Computer Reporting 
Agencies. I have several Relatives that have switched  to Window 8 and 
hate it worth a passion.


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

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WaltS48 wrote:

On Sun, 04 May 2014 08:35:27 -0700
"David E. Ross"  wrote:


On 5/4/2014 5:01 AM, Ant wrote:

On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
...

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by "throbber"?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber

See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner
when connecting and download web pages. ;)



Firefox developers decided the throbber was not needed.  To the
contrary, when I select a link and the page does not load immediately, I
check the SeaMonkey throbber to determine if I really selected the link.




If Firefox users really need more eye candy.

[Throbber Restored :: Add-ons for
Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/throbber-restored/)


Only Applies  Australis version of FireFox

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

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Stéphane Grégoire wrote:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 03/05/2014 05:49:

I prefer SM because it's just so familiar.

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by "throbber"?




- loss of the status bar


If you want to see only the web pages :




 The Throbber is /was the icon usually over on left hand top corner 
that indicates some action such as trying to load a web Page or download 
Mail (in case of SeaMonkey) and also doubled as a shortcut to 
Mozilla.org website. Its been a fixture since the days of Netscape 
Communicator and I believe was there at the very beginning on Netscape 
3.0.1.Gold  which was a for pay product. I paid $60 and received a 120 
page paper back book and a CD with the software. FireFox up until a few 
years ago also had one too, it was sitting there dutifully doing as it 
was supposed. Not bothering anyone and when anyone deed to go to Mozilla 
website they didn't have to look it up just click on it. Then someone 
decided it was to old hat and not needed. Now in FireFox they 
substituted a little winder that you'll almost ever look except it do 
indicate some activity, but is no longer a shortcut to the Mozilla website


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Re: SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 4/21/14 2:53 AM +0900, EE wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 4/20/14 7:49 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters.
   Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to
mark Read or as spam, or other task.

Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed
with a diagonal line.

Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25
Beta to put me back to square one.

Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but
there are enough differences to cause problems.

I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.


It seems to me that the obvious answer is to use stable, mainstream
releases. Moreover, you'd get a lot more mileage out of posting to the
dev newsgroup rather than the user support-oriented one (here). Problems
with betas don't apply to the vast majority of us.


Bugs in betas can persist into releases.  That was the case with the
bookmarks toolbar bug in Firefox.  It first appeared in the beta (or
maybe even alpha) version of FF 3.0 and persisted through that entire
version branch and into the entire version 3.5 branch.


Of course, bugs can persist; otherwise, all our stable releases would be
bug-free. My point was simply that the dev newsgroup is assuredly a
better place to report dev issues to devs.


I reported to that group and it appears dead.

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Re: SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2014 06:49 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters.
  Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to
mark Read or as spam, or other task.

Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed
with a diagonal line.

Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25
Beta to put me back to square one.

Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but
there are enough differences to cause problems.

I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.



What is the bug number?

I installed the Windows version of SeaMonkey 2.26b2 in Wine on my Linux
system, and can't create an email account. When I click "Finish"
SeaMonkey freezes.

I wanted to try reproducing your problem.


My bug is in this Group:
Bug 984948 My original Bug  was marked as a Dup of this one. But there 
is a Listing of Dup Bugs.


As a Result of having to Completely remove and Reinstall it erased my 
Mozilla Folder I kept all my Bugs and Contacts with Mozilla. I used time 
machine to go back a Day and at least pickup three post about this bug.


Probably will have to go back another day to Pickup my entire folder. 
It really did a number on me.

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Re: SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/19/2014 06:49 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters.
  Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to
mark Read or as spam, or other task.

Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed
with a diagonal line.

Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25
Beta to put me back to square one.

Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but
there are enough differences to cause problems.

I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.



Thank the deities for Google Groups, where I can always read expired posts.

Try the m.dev.apps.seamonkey group Mr. Jones.


Thank you have just posted there.

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Re: SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 4/20/14 7:49 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters.
   Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to
mark Read or as spam, or other task.

Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed
with a diagonal line.

Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25
Beta to put me back to square one.

Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but
there are enough differences to cause problems.

I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.


It seems to me that the obvious answer is to use stable, mainstream
releases. Moreover, you'd get a lot more mileage out of posting to the
dev newsgroup rather than the user support-oriented one (here). Problems
with betas don't apply to the vast majority of us.

I have reported to Bugzilla. But in case a Stray Developer should read 
this group thought I would give them a heads up.


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Re: SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 4/20/14 7:49 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters.
   Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to
mark Read or as spam, or other task.

Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed
with a diagonal line.

Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25
Beta to put me back to square one.

Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but
there are enough differences to cause problems.

I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.


It seems to me that the obvious answer is to use stable, mainstream
releases. Moreover, you'd get a lot more mileage out of posting to the
dev newsgroup rather than the user support-oriented one (here). Problems
with betas don't apply to the vast majority of us.

Developer Group is uninterested in SeaMonkey last few post I've been 
reading they are interested divesting themselves of any thing to do with 
SeaMonkey


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SeaMonkey Beta Two still exibit the issue no new Mail Filters

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26 Beta 1 was a Major disaster  for people wishing to add mail filters. 
 Would not allow choosing of Folder to move File or choose whether to 
mark Read or as spam, or other task.


Beta 2 on Mac is far worse.

After install and restart received a nice notice Application Corrupt or 
Missing Component.
In going to applications. and Looking application icon showed dimmed 
with a diagonal line.


Had to open FireFox (pre-Australis version) got Mozilla Look up the 25 
Beta to put me back to square one.


Oh for the developers that that read this forum.

Mac is based on BSD UNIX not Linux. They they may be third cousins but 
there are enough differences to cause problems.


I've reported the problem on Bugzilla.

I think I will have to wait to Beta 27 comes out before trying again.
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Re: Mail Filter Creation Broke

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Geoff Welsh wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Philip Taylor wrote:



PhillipJones wrote:


(I'm on Beta Channel)



Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.  "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"


Practise what you preach ?  :-)

I try to. I update to 26.1 beta only for security reasons.
I had to revert back to 25.0 beta  because of this major problem
..



Forgive my ignorance of the hacking world, but how is a Beta of any
software more secure than stable version?

GW


Even Beta Channel versions go through security updates They are no less 
secure than regular versions. They are just tinkering with the code to 
add features or make more efficient.


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Re: Mail Filter Creation Broke

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Philip Taylor wrote:



PhillipJones wrote:


(I'm on Beta Channel)



Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.  "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"


Practise what you preach ?  :-)

I try to. I update to 26.1 beta only for security reasons.
I had to revert back to 25.0 beta  because of this major problem

I've reported to Bugzilla. It affects Mac Version but may all versions 
If anyone else is having same issue. Run don't walk and revert to 
version 25 even with possible security issues.


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Mail Filter Creation Broke

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In the latest and supposed to be greatest version of Seamonkey just 
uploaded the 10 of April (I'm on Beta Channel) Mac Version

Mail Filter creation is totally broke
You click From: email address and choose create Filter.
You can choose whether exact , contains and so on when you click on Mail 
box and attempt to find folder, nothing there and can go no further.
In order to get it to work I had to use time machine go back about a 
week and replace the new version with old completely broke.

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Re: HTML e-mail capability!!

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On 29/03/14 11:12, Ray_Net wrote:



Did you not feel that it is there to permit to compose a mail in an
html
format.
I know that this composer is old, but, when i compose a VERY SIMPLE web
page, it's wonderful.


I have Composer -.0.0-.1 showing as an installed Extension! This would
seem to imply that it is *not* necessary to have Composer installed!

So does this mean that there is enough capability with-in SM proper to
compose HTML e-mails already??


Yup. For email there is only very basic HTML 4.x requirement to send
HTML email. HTML5 is not required, not likely ever will be, for email.



Composer itself does not support HTML5.  It defaults to a DOCTYPE of
4.01 Transitional which, today, is hideously outmoded.  And, it won't
let you change it within the Composer program. You need to edit the
source in another program.

Look, the bottom line is:

If you don't know what you're doing you use a WYSIWYG program like
Composer.

And then you let it produce lousy code and post it online and wonder why
people have issues with viewing it.

Or, you are serious about making compliant Web pages.  And you don't use
Composer or any other WYSIWYG editor. And you learn HTML and CSS and
write compliant pages that validate and display (nearly) the same way in
all major browsers.

At the very least you do NOT use Composer.  If that is your last resort
then use Blue Griffon.  At least it's not totally dead.




I take exception to that in one case.
DreamWeaver is capable of WYSIWYG, code, or both at the same time and 
the Current version is capable of HTML 5.


And while html 4.0.1 Strict is "out of date" many, many, Websites, and 
Pages still use it. As HTML 5 is not gaining a lot of traction.  (I 
didn't say gaining any traction).


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.25?

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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On 3/19/2014 9:18 AM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:09:20 -0700, "David E. Ross"
 wrote:


The US-CERT announced:


Original release date: March 18, 2014

The Mozilla Foundation has released security updates to address
multiple vulnerabilities in Firefox, Thunderbird, and Seamonkey.
Exploitation of these vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to obtain
sensitive information, cause a denial-of-service condition, execute
arbitrary code, or operate with elevated privileges on an affected
system.

The following updates are available:

 Firefox 28
 Firefox ESR 24.4
 Thunderbird 24.4
 Seamonkey 2.25

Users and administrators are encouraged to review the Security
Advisories for Firefox, Firefox ESR, Thunderbird, and Seamonkey to
determine which updates should be applied to mitigate these risks.


Will Seamonkey 2.25 be released soon?  It's neither on the
 Web site nor on the ftp.mozilla.org
FTP server.


It's on the FTP server. Currently running it.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]



Lokking under /pub/seamonkey/releases on ftp.mozilla.org, I see 2.25b1,
2.25b2, and 2.25b3 on ftp.mozilla.org but no plain 2.25.

On , I see

Download Now
SeaMonkey 2.24

 Windows, English (20 MB)
 Other Systems & Languages


As of 3/19 it is in the releases directory. I grabbed it from the
candidates folder originally.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I was automatically updated to it.

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Re: Picture doesn't display in Seamonkey 2.24

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EE wrote:

Ron wrote:

http://ulocal.wmur.com/mediadetail/18215187-Snowy-Owl-%26-others-in-Rye%2C-NH?gid=76457&uid=&sort=upload%20DESC&offset=37



The box under the "Snowy Owl & others in Rye, NH" box should show the
picture. Works in IE 9


Works for me with SM 2.24.  I see the snowy owl.


 Works for me.

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Re: Stop updates

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Philip Taylor wrote:



Phillip Jones CET wrote:


He is probably one of those folks that leaves computer on 24/7/365.
Which is a Bad idea.
Its one thing you run a Business and have the software and hardware
setup to leave everything on 24/7/365/.

But an individual you don't stay up 24 hrs the best thing to do is turn
your computer off when you not using for more than an hour. And when you
go to bed.

The only exception, if your backing up a hard drive or some such
activity or a very large piece of software that takes 8-10  hours to do.
  When a Computer is shut down and restarted it does a bunch of house
keeping and updates Time and date information. The the longer it stays
on more likely Memory corruption That would be cleared up if turned on.


Every time a computer is turned on, additional strain is placed on the
electronic components, which  in turn shortens their life and leads
to premature component failure.  Leaving a computer (or any other
electronic device) places the least strain on the components, reduces
risk of premature failure, and significantly extends the probable
life of the device.  I have never yet had a computer fail in service,
but have had at least six fail on being turned back on after a period
of being turned off.

Philip Taylor


There has always been debate both ways about turning computers on and 
off I've had 5 different Mac Models spanning 18 years 3 desktops and two 
laptops. And before that a Radio Shack Color Computer and Apple IIc 
Clone by V-Tech. I've yet to run across any I have had or currently 
have, that have had issues with Power supplies or Power switches.  I've 
had issues with Batteries in Laptops wearing out. But never issues power 
supplies or power switches. I always shut down at night. And if I am 
going to be gone a hour or more


You did catch the proviso I said if  not using for an hour or more shut 
down.


Here lately I left computer on, but in sleep mode while I went did some 
errands. I ended up having to get out of all the programs I had on and 
restart computer. Mostly issues having to do with my Internet connection.


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Re: Picture doesn't display in Seamonkey 2.24

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EE wrote:

Ron wrote:

http://ulocal.wmur.com/mediadetail/18215187-Snowy-Owl-%26-others-in-Rye%2C-NH?gid=76457&uid=&sort=upload%20DESC&offset=37



The box under the "Snowy Owl & others in Rye, NH" box should show the
picture. Works in IE 9


Works for me with SM 2.24.  I see the snowy owl.


Nice looking Owl Good photo

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Re: Stop updates

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EE wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

How do I stop sea monkey from updating when I dont want it to,
It downloads and updates in the middle of the night and nothing works
the next morning this last time all my email and newsgroups had to be
reinstalled.Had to start from scratch


I use these settings in about:config, and SeaMonkey never updates itself.
app.update.auto - false
app.update.enabled - false
app.update.silent - false


He is probably one of those folks that leaves computer on 24/7/365. 
Which is a Bad idea.
Its one thing you run a Business and have the software and hardware 
setup to leave everything on 24/7/365/.


But an individual you don't stay up 24 hrs the best thing to do is turn 
your computer off when you not using for more than an hour. And when you 
go to bed.


The only exception, if your backing up a hard drive or some such 
activity or a very large piece of software that takes 8-10  hours to do. 
 When a Computer is shut down and restarted it does a bunch of house 
keeping and updates Time and date information. The the longer it stays 
on more likely Memory corruption That would be cleared up if turned on.

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Re: Seamonkey and Australis UI

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Halleluiah, Praise the Lord!

Finally someone with some common sense.

I don't need a fourth version of Safari/chrome/Maxthon.


Philip Chee wrote:

On 10/02/2014 00:50, MrGatoChile wrote:

given that Firefox and SeaMonkey share a lot of code and another things,
exist plans in the future to migrate to the Australis UI for SeaMonkey?.


We have no plans to migrate to Australis.


Firefox migrated the UI for the Aurora version and I already  hate it.


In that case I would recommend that you install the "Classic Theme
Restorer (Customize Australis)" addon for Firefox:



"""After an hour using Firefox 29 I was ready to make SeaMonkey my main
browser, but then I found Classic Theme Restorer and it fixed pretty
much everything that wass broken. Thank you so much for producing this
awesome extension. Without it Firefox 29 is completely unusable, but
with it everything works great."""



Phil




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Re: Why is SeaMonkey refusing to connect to NON secure page saying not trusted cert?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Desiree wrote:


Both SeaMonkey 2.23 and Fx 24.2.0 refuse to connect to a NONsecure
site claiming the site is https and claiming invalid cert. Both
browsers refuse to let me look at the cert and make a security
exception if I wish. (I should not need to make any exception because
the site is not secure in the first place but Fx and SM think it is).
The site is http://www.tvfool.com.  I can use both IE 10 and Opera
12.15 with no problems at the site and no matter which pages I access
at the site neither IE or Opera claim the page is a secure one.

...

I am trying to go to this specific page (which SM and Fx mistakenly
think is a secure page but is not):

http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

Note (on the above screen shot) the lack of any way to make a
security exception for this "supposed" secure page.


No problem here (SM 2.23) accessing the main page, several secondary
pages, or the specific page you link above.

I went to main page with nary a question about anything, just went there 
just want verify your issue.


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Re: Bottom Pane is Blank and No Icons are Showing - Sometimes.

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Arnie Goetchius wrote:

SM 2.23 - There is a very narrow pane at the bottom of the screen with
five tiny icons starting on the left with "Browser", "Mail &
Newsgroups", "Composer", etc. If I click on "Windows" at the top of the
screen and then click on "Browser" at the top, I see the pane at the
bottom of the screen with all of the icons.  However, if I then click on
"Mail & Newsgroups" at the top, the pane at the bottom is still there
but it contains no icons. IOW the pane is blank. If I click on
"Composer" or "Address Book", the icons are there. They only disappear
when I click on "Mail & Newsgroups" at the top. Is there something I can
set in Preferences or about:config to get the icons in the bottom pane
back? I looked in Preferences but nothing there strikes me as obvious.

This only happens on one of my Profiles (then one I normally use). I
don't have the problem on any of the other profiles. I am guessing that
I hit a series of key strokes that brought this on and am now trying to
figure out how to revert back to normal.

That's the status Bar. In View menu click on status bar Many people 
think it’s a PIA and the developer have tore its guts out of recent 
version just to claim that 1/8 of an inch or real estate and 
Status-4-Ever was created to allow it to be put back. I think status bar 
come close to being the greatest thing since sliced bread. And use 
Status-4-Ever.
I have some extension that will only work in the status bar and nowhere 
else. And I find those valuable to me.


See: http://www.4shared.com/download/reKowmLeba/SeaMonkey001.png  and
See: http://www.4shared.com/download/b9nnV20Qba/Adobe_Fireworks_CS51001.png

The weather tracking software will not work except in Status-Bar

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Reply newsgroup/Sender only not working

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Occasionally when I am either trying to reply to sender or newsgroup or 
group, they suddenly go grey and quit working.  Anyone running into this?


Is there a Bug on Bugzilla about this.

The only cure is to quit SeaMonkey wait until completely quit  then 
restarting.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:26.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23

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Re: Dead account in Sea Monkey Mail with empty folders won't Delete.

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andré wrote:

andré a écrit :

whispertread a écrit :

Here's a strange one.  I changed my Broadband ISP from o2.co.uk to
Virginmedia.com
Now I have a new default email account in my Sea Monkey Mail.  I saved
any of the old mail out to a backup drive, then deleted all mail from
all folders.  Then I
it contained nothing in the Inbox Sent folders etc.
closed that redundant account by removing it in the normal way, so no
more "settings" exist for it.

Now there is left over, a dead account that won't delete from the
listed accounts in the left side window.
I can rename it, so have called it "Silly Account Wont Delete" but it
refuses to be cleared away.  It sits there at the bottom of my
accounts list with completely empty folders for Inbox Outbox Sent
Drafts Trash and there's no command that will allow me to take it out
of the list.   Anyone got any idea where it is hiding so I can get it
out of my Sea Monkey Face? !

It's not causing any harm or slowing anything down, just frustrating
that normal operations won't get rid of it completely.


(My SM is in french, so the names I give could be approximate.)
You can find the location of the folder for your account at

  menu: edit / account parameters / "Silly Account Wont Delete" (or
whatever it is called now) / server parametres tab


(Correcting for english menu names given by Daniel.  Use this method if
you have already tried Daniel's suggestion, which is the normal way of
deleting an email account.)
Mail_and_newsgroups menu: edit / mail_and_newsgroups_settings /
account_you_want_to_delete / server_parametres (second tab)


The "local directory" field at the bottom of the page has the location
of the account folder.
If it is in the default location, its' parent directory contains the
file "profiles.ini", which shows the location of each account.
These 2 points apply to any standard version of Seamonkey, whatever the
platform.

I suspect that the account doesn't delete because the account folder is
write protected, or alternately, there is an anti-virus function active
on your computer that is recreating the folder each time you delete it.
(I ran into that problem when I used to use msw.  One of the incentives
to switch to Linux.)

hope that helps



Thanks - in hope :-))




 That is a very old issue Seamonkey, and Mozilla, and Communicator use 
to do that all the time. It is or was in a Pain in the ass to fix. I 
thought SeaMonkey fixed that 10 years ago. Best I can remember you had 
to first delete the reference in Edit mail and newsgroups then 
immediately go in Mail  or news and and delete all references you can 
locate them in profile folder move to the trash and empty. Then Restart 
computer. Before opening. Some time wouldn't do any good and you'd have 
to try 5 or 6 times before it finally took. Then out of the blue a month 
or two  it would start up again. Maybe it was a Full moon.


I hope we haven't started that mess again.

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Re: Remove cookies

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


In the mac Version go to the Tools > Data Manager type in website you
want to Kill Cookies click on Cookies Tab, then hold down the
Command Key (⌘) and type A for select all. Then choose delete.


Ctrl-A works just as well in the Windows world.

I had an idea Select All was Mapped to Control on PC but it been a while 
since I've worked on a Windows PC.


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Re: Remove cookies

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Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/14 02:12, Ed Mullen wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 1/11/2014, 10:02 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

regz91 wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

How can I remove all cookies in one go SM2.23?

ctrl+Shift+Delete


Yes, but that will clear ALL private data as you have them defined
under
Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data. If you
want to
clear only cookies, first modify that pref by unchecking the other
boxes.


By default, when you go to "Clear Private Data", SeaMonkey will ask
you
which types of data you want to clear.


On my system it does not. But that may be because I've unchecked the
box
"Ask me before clearing private data." Since we don't know the OP's
setting here, better safe than sorry.


When I go to cookie manager through seamonkey 2.23 it does not seem to
allow for mass deletion, only one at a time, not a great problem as if I
want mass deletion I can do it with cc cleaner.


Instead of the cookie manager available from the GUI use:

chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul

in the location bar.  It's the old-style manager and allows multiple
selections.


Ed, thanks for that link. Worked well, allowed me to get rid of many
expired cookies.

One wonders why expired cookies are not automatically deleted!! But
then, when I first went down the list, I also saw a couple of cookies
the should have been deleted "at end of session" for sites that I hadn't
been to for many sessions!!

Seems to me, in addition to the "Remove Cookie" and "Remove All Cookies"
buttons, a "Remove All Expired Cookies" button would be useful if they
are not being dropped automatically!

In the mac Version go to the Tools > Data Manager type in website you 
want to Kill Cookies click on Cookies Tab, then hold down the Command 
Key (⌘) and type A for select all. Then choose delete.


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Re: Blinking hourglass

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/11/14 9:51 PM +0900, Daniel wrote:

On 11/01/14 21:51, Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/10/14 5:45 PM +0900, Daniel wrote:

On 10/01/14 04:16, F Murtz wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

F Murtz wrote, On 09/01/2014 12:29:

How can I stop the hourglass beside the cursor from blinking non
stop
forever when I am in newsgroups, It has recently upped the blinking
rate to fast from the continual slow rate it was.
It is making me neurotic, it never stops.

Stop SM - Restart SM.
This is my method of stopping the blinking when(only when) it happen.


It was on a restart that the higher speed blinking started. I
regularly
shutdown and restart my whole computer (XP)and the blinking is there
always whenever sea monkey is running.


Where is your cursor located when it is rotating??

For a long time, I had a rotating cursor when it was located in either
the Accounts pane or the Threads pane. No rotation at all if the cursor
were located in the Message pane.


That rotating cursor is a symptom of message synchronization. I only see
it on my IMAP accounts.


I only have a Pop e-mail account and I cannot swear that it happened
there, but it sure did happen with my News accounts, but hasn't happen
there for some time.

I seem to recall that a work-around (manual change of a pref) was
suggested at some time further back, but I did not apply that mod.
However, as I've said, I now no longer have the problem.


I very occasionally see the app-busy cursor in SM when reading
newsgroups, but that seems to only be when synchronizing a large group
of headers. Since this is now the only newsgroup I read, the traffic
amounts to 1s and 2s. Not so busy. ;)

Blinking Hour Glass ?? Must be on a windows machine. But usually show 
sand going from top to bottom then flipping over. Never seen a Blinking 
Hour Glass.


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Re: Imgur.com's image not showing up in the latest Mozilla web browsers?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/10/2014 5:04 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

http://imgur.com/8IFLFoJ doesn't show up in SeaMonkey and Firefox for
multiple users, computers, and OSes. How come? :(

Thank you in advance. :)



Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.23

No problem here, and I disable images from other domains.  Is it
possible that AdBlock Plus or some other extension is causing this?


Both cited URLs work fine here, with AdBlock Plus enabled.
SM 2.23, Win7 Pro SP1.


WFM see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtae4mp35k2y9fr/screenshot_151.png
I using the latest version of SeaMonkey

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:26.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23

Build identifier: 20131207075325

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Re: copy and paste broken again with latest upgrade

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Ray_Net wrote:

Trane Francks wrote, On 27/12/2013 06:05:

On 12/27/13 11:56 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 26/12/2013 17:39:

Ray_Net wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote, On 26/12/2013 13:52:

On 12/26/2013 3:31 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Mike C wrote, On 26/12/2013 07:59:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Mike C wrote, On 24/12/2013 22:02:

r2var...@telusplanet.net wrote:

The latest SeaMonkey upgrade has broken the copy and paste
feature
when composing mail. As in.. can no longer select something
off the
desktop and paste it into an email.
This was a problem.. then fixed and now broken again. Makes
one
want
to stop automatic upgrades..


auto upgrade to SM v2.23 works for me.

Right click from desktop then send to> email recipient.
or
Open email the just click in attachment square (Upper right on
mine).
Then just go to whatever you want to attach.

He did not speak about an attachment, he speaked about
copy/paste.


I, for one, have no clue about "select something off the
desktop and
paste it into an email" to even try and reproduce.  And he
doesn't
mention OS.

GW


I guess I'm having a little problem understanding his problem
also.
I assumed he was talking about taking a file from the desktop and
"copying and pasting" it into an email.
>
He said:
"As in.. can no longer select something off the desktop and
paste it
into an email."

Effectively, this is strange.
Anyway, i test your suggestion here:
 and i cannot paste it here.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17



I finally noticed that drag-n-drop from desktop to email only
works if
I compose in HTML.
This may or may not be relevant!

You can drag and drop a file created by notepad like testfile.txt  ?

I have tested here in the newgroup where i compose in HTML -***that
doesnot work.*


Windows 7 Pro, SM 2.23.  Opened a compose window in a mail account,
dragged and dropped a file from the desktop into the message body and
into the attachment window.  Works fine.



Windows 7 Pro, SM 2.17 drag and drop into the attachment works ok.
Into the message body it looks working but no result.

Just a question, when you do a drag and drop into the message body what
happens ?
- The content of the file is copied to the body text ?


I used an image file and it was embedded into the message body.


- The file is inserted into the Attachment window ?


I did two separate operations:  D&D into the message body (see above)
and then D&D into the attachment window which attached the file to the
email message.  Exactly what I expected to happen.



WFM: SM 2.23, OS X 10.7.5.


WFM too - It works in the body and in the attachment window when i D&D
an image.
BUT try it with a "testfile.txt" created by notepad ... You will see
that D&D does not work in the body.


The only thing that doesn't work for me in 2.23 is when I want to reply 
in html (email) I use to be able to hold down shift key when clicking 
Reply and would switch to HTML editor.


It no longer does that. Still works when composing a new message.

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Re: greetings

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PhillipJones wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Smiles wrote:

seasons greetings to ALL


+1 :-)


Seasons greetings as well:

http://www.phillipmjones.net/XMas/index.html


Wrong spelling sorry, I've corrected above.

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Re: greetings

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Smiles wrote:

seasons greetings to ALL


+1 :-)


Seasons greetings as well:

http://www.phillipmjones.net/Xmas/index.html

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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/23/13 11:40 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/23/13 10:50 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

EE wrote:

regz91 wrote:


I think we have 64 bit builds of SeaMonkey only for Linux. The
windows
version of SeaMonkey is always a 32 bit browser regardless of whther
the
OS is 32 or 64 bit.


64-bit builds are also for Mac OS.


Only if you have Lion (OSX.7.x), Mountain Lion (OSX.8.x), or Mavericks
(OSX.9.x).

Snow Leopard (OSX.6.8) is mostly 32 Bit; Leopard (OSX.5) is all 32 Bit
and any lower are all 32bit.  It took a Long time for apple to adopt 64
Bit.


Not in my experience. SeaMonkey 2.x always ran as 64-bit on my Snow
Leopard system.


Go SeaMonkey do get info (⌘-I)
Check and see if set to 32 bit

http://sharebucketapp.com/cxZjNhZWRmOGMwOWRmZg


The more telling way is to open Activity Monitor and look at SeaMonkey
in the process list. I've since upgraded from SL to Lion, so cannot
check current builds for 64-bit execution.

It only been since Mountain Lion (OSX.8.x) that the system is even full 
time 64Bit and if if you still have enough 32 bit program They often 
work better if you system system apps to 32 Bit and restart for them to 
work as they should. Unlike on a PC where a 32 Bit program works great 
on on 32 bit system or 64 bit system. It does make a difference on a Mac.


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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

[PhillipJones]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/23/13 10:50 AM +0900, PhillipJones wrote:

EE wrote:

regz91 wrote:


I think we have 64 bit builds of SeaMonkey only for Linux. The windows
version of SeaMonkey is always a 32 bit browser regardless of whther
the
OS is 32 or 64 bit.


64-bit builds are also for Mac OS.


Only if you have Lion (OSX.7.x), Mountain Lion (OSX.8.x), or Mavericks
(OSX.9.x).

Snow Leopard (OSX.6.8) is mostly 32 Bit; Leopard (OSX.5) is all 32 Bit
and any lower are all 32bit.  It took a Long time for apple to adopt 64
Bit.


Not in my experience. SeaMonkey 2.x always ran as 64-bit on my Snow
Leopard system.


Go SeaMonkey do get info (⌘-I)
Check and see if set to 32 bit

http://sharebucketapp.com/cxZjNhZWRmOGMwOWRmZg

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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

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Dick Hoffman wrote:

On 12/22/2013 1:30 AM, regz91 wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

On 12/21/2013 12:19 AM, regz91 wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3
system.
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is
there
something I can change to retain the original formatting?
Dick Hoffman

What is "send format" set in
Edit ==> Preferences ==> Mail & Newsgroups ==> Send Format

The only thing set here is the first bullet, "Ask me...".
Dick

How about the below setting ?

http://i.imgur.com/dlOG003.png

I don't want to compose all my emails in HTML, all I want to do is
preserve whatever formatting the message was sent in when I forward an
email.
Dick


At least in Mac Version if you have set in preferences - email as Plain 
Text you can switch on the fly to HTML by holding down the shift key. 
Then when you get ready send it will ask whether to send as Text only, 
or in HTML.


IF your set for HTML Mail in Preferences holding down the Shift when 
choosing to reply or create an email will switch you to plain text.


Although the above direction is based on Mac I believe this feature is 
universal across platforms


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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

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EE wrote:

regz91 wrote:


I think we have 64 bit builds of SeaMonkey only for Linux. The windows
version of SeaMonkey is always a 32 bit browser regardless of whther the
OS is 32 or 64 bit.


64-bit builds are also for Mac OS.

Only if you have Lion (OSX.7.x), Mountain Lion (OSX.8.x), or Mavericks 
(OSX.9.x).


Snow Leopard (OSX.6.8) is mostly 32 Bit; Leopard (OSX.5) is all 32 Bit 
and any lower are all 32bit.  It took a Long time for apple to adopt 64 
Bit.


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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

[PhillipJones]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 3:31 PM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 11:23 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 4:17 AM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/19/13 2:40 AM +0900, EE wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

gnaan...@gmail.com wrote:

The new SeaMonkey version is totally not compatible in
presentation
with the new Mavericks OS from MacIntosh (Apple) All the pages
are
different and most of the page graphics are gone presenting
a 50%
blank page. Log-in buttons no longer show up for Amazon or
Ebay and
Images under Google search are not accessible as no search
button
shows up? A lot of graphics in emails that were previously
visible
(Such as a COSTCO AD) are now blank and can only be seen if
you hit
the forward setting for the email. All this dysfunction makes
Seamonkey not usable at this time so I am moving over to
Firefox
which
still works with Mavericks. Hopefully, the next version will be
Mavericks Compatible?



I'm using SeaMonkey 2.23 on Mavericks

This is what mine looks like:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQ65mKK_cF5eFlNRlMzb3p2U3M/edit?usp=sharing









Phillip, clicking your link basically gets me a blank'ish page!


That's odd I clicked on it and worked fine and its supposed to
be a
Public link.


What I really notice is that most of the text in the interface
is in
italics. Is that deliberate, or are the fonts not working properly?


It sure served up a great reminder of how elegant the Default
theme is
compared to Modern on OS X. LOL



I can't stand the Defaut Theme...it looks jumbled, muddle, and
confusing
to me. I don't need or want to see all those disjointed colors.

SM Mondern Theme forever on my installs - Mac OS and/or Win7!


You're certainly not describing the Default theme on OS X. The Default
theme on OS X has the classical Mac app look since SM 2.0. From the
release notes: "The default theme on Mac OS X was completely
renewed to
better fit with the look of Leopard and Snow Leopard."

It's beautiful.



you need to make a collage of screen shots or something.  I run Modern
on OSX 10.4, Modern on OSX 10.5, and Modern on OSX 10.6 and they all
look exactly the same, and they all "fit".

GW


I'm not talking about running Modern. I used to run Modern on Linux and
liked it, but when SM 2.0 was released and I saw the revised Default
theme for OS X, I switched. It looks like a proper Mac app now, whereas
the Modern theme (to my eye) looks like something you'd find elsewhere.

Different strokes, but I prefer the clean, uncluttered look of Default.

Default for SM on OS X:

<http://www.living-intentionally.com/media/images/SM-Default.png>



Can't stand that one...looks PlaySkool.  And cluttered visually, with
all the colors...I'll stick with SM Modern.


Interesting. For me, the coloured buttons don't even strike me as
colours. For me, the predominant colour is "aluminum", matching the rest
of the OS X interface. And the coloured buttons are as colourful as the
Finder icons in Snow Leopard.

I'm on Lion and find the lack of colour troubling. You might find
computing nirvana with the drab grey of Lion and the monotone of Modern. :)

Cheers and thanks for a good conversation. :)

trane


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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

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Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 12:42 PM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 4:17 AM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/19/13 2:40 AM +0900, EE wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

gnaan...@gmail.com wrote:

The new SeaMonkey version is totally not compatible in
presentation
with the new Mavericks OS from MacIntosh (Apple) All the pages
are
different and most of the page graphics are gone presenting a
50%
blank page.  Log-in buttons no longer show up for Amazon or Ebay
and
Images under Google search are not accessible as no search
button
shows up? A lot of graphics in emails that were previously
visible
(Such as a COSTCO AD) are now blank and can only be seen if
you hit
the forward setting for the email. All this dysfunction makes
Seamonkey not usable at this time so I am moving over to Firefox
which
still works with Mavericks. Hopefully, the next version will be
Mavericks Compatible?



I'm using SeaMonkey 2.23 on Mavericks

This is what mine looks like:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQ65mKK_cF5eFlNRlMzb3p2U3M/edit?usp=sharing









Phillip, clicking your link basically gets me a blank'ish page!


That's odd I clicked on it and worked fine and its supposed to be a
Public link.


What I really notice is that most of the text in the interface is in
italics.  Is that deliberate, or are the fonts not working properly?


It sure served up a great reminder of how elegant the Default
theme is
compared to Modern on OS X. LOL



I can't stand the Defaut Theme...it looks jumbled, muddle, and
confusing
to me.  I don't need or want to see all those disjointed colors.

SM Mondern Theme forever on my installs - Mac OS and/or Win7!


You're certainly not describing the Default theme on OS X. The Default
theme on OS X has the classical Mac app look since SM 2.0. From the
release notes: "The default theme on Mac OS X was completely renewed to
better fit with the look of Leopard and Snow Leopard."

It's beautiful.



As I type this, I'm looking at the SM Default Theme...and it looks like
crap to me.  Reds, blues, greens, golds...cartoon looking buttons that
don't come *close* to mirroring my OS 10.7.8 interface at all.  Nothing
like the nice uniform look of the SM Modern Theme...which I *LOVE*...

To each their own, but I really hate the Default Theme and will be
changing back to it right after I hit Send.


Reds, greens, golds and cartoon-looking buttons? Seriously?

<http://www.living-intentionally.com/media/images/SM-Default.png>

That is the Default theme. Is that what you think looks so bad? *blink*



Yes - this is the Theme I hate.  It totally blows the feel of the rest
of my generally uniform silver OS X interface.  I don't need color
pictures in my buttons...just a simple iconic indicating function will
do nicely.

Other than being blue vice sliver I find the nice uniform SM Modern
Theme (which at one time *was* the Default) *much* easier to look at.
YMMV.

I don't like it either I am currently SeaMonkey Modern, I don't that as 
well. But Have since my Fav Orbit 3 +1 isn't being updated.


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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

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Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 4:17 AM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/19/13 2:40 AM +0900, EE wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

gnaan...@gmail.com wrote:

The new SeaMonkey version is totally not compatible in presentation
with the new Mavericks OS from MacIntosh (Apple) All the pages are
different and most of the page graphics are gone presenting a 50%
blank page.  Log-in buttons no longer show up for Amazon or Ebay
and
Images under Google search are not accessible as no search button
shows up? A lot of graphics in emails that were previously visible
(Such as a COSTCO AD) are now blank and can only be seen if you hit
the forward setting for the email. All this dysfunction makes
Seamonkey not usable at this time so I am moving over to Firefox
which
still works with Mavericks. Hopefully, the next version will be
Mavericks Compatible?



I'm using SeaMonkey 2.23 on Mavericks

This is what mine looks like:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQ65mKK_cF5eFlNRlMzb3p2U3M/edit?usp=sharing







Phillip, clicking your link basically gets me a blank'ish page!


That's odd I clicked on it and worked fine and its supposed to be a
Public link.


What I really notice is that most of the text in the interface is in
italics.  Is that deliberate, or are the fonts not working properly?


It sure served up a great reminder of how elegant the Default theme is
compared to Modern on OS X. LOL



I can't stand the Defaut Theme...it looks jumbled, muddle, and confusing
to me.  I don't need or want to see all those disjointed colors.

SM Mondern Theme forever on my installs - Mac OS and/or Win7!


You're certainly not describing the Default theme on OS X. The Default
theme on OS X has the classical Mac app look since SM 2.0. From the
release notes: "The default theme on Mac OS X was completely renewed to
better fit with the look of Leopard and Snow Leopard."

It's beautiful.


My favorite theme  is  Orbit 3+1 doesn't work at all on SM 2.23 did on 2.21.

My absolute favorite was a Theme created by Sailfish called SkyPilot but 
when he got tired of messing with themes he sold it to a Fellow That has 
no interest in updating it for modern versions of SM. In fact when I 
email a requesting an up date for SM he said I m interested %^&$ 
Seamonkey. Don't contact me again (was my first request). all the built 
themes seem too cartoony for me.


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