Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-17 Thread bwitzed
Hi.  I have installed 2.46 as I was told that it most stable.  The only problem 
is that the only language choice is Germsn and I cannot understand the menus.  
Would someone please provide me with an exact link to an english version of 
2.46 or other stable version.  I am mostly happy with the performance of this 
version but would like be able to use the menus.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-10 Thread TCW
On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 19:30:40 +0300, Stanimir Stamenkov
 wrote:

>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:16:41 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:
>
>>> SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?
>>
>> No and it's unlikely this will happen in the near future. Not only
>> SeaMonkey would need code changes but also the shared mailnews code for
>> it and Thunderbird. I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>Is it really like that?  I can see at the Help -> Troubleshooting 
>Information  page:
>
>Multiprocess Windows   4/4 (Enabled by user)
>
>I have explicitly set in the prefs:
>
>browser.tabs.remote.autostart = true
>
>The perceived performance and application UI responsiveness are much 
>improved over previous versions (incl. SeaMonkey 2.45) on my side.  Is 
>there a test I can try if multiprocess is really working for me?

Sure, run Peacekeeper with and without MP support:
http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-08 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 8 Oct 2016 19:30:40 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:16:41 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?


No and it's unlikely this will happen in the near future. Not only
SeaMonkey would need code changes but also the shared mailnews code for
it and Thunderbird. I wouldn't hold my breath.


Is it really like that?  I can see at the Help -> Troubleshooting
Information  page:

Multiprocess Windows 4/4 (Enabled by user)


Or this is just because I'm using an "Aurora" build?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0 SeaMonkey/2.47a2



I have explicitly set in the prefs:

browser.tabs.remote.autostart = true

The perceived performance and application UI responsiveness are much
improved over previous versions (incl. SeaMonkey 2.45) on my side.  Is
there a test I can try if multiprocess is really working for me?


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-08 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:16:41 +0200, /Frank-Rainer Grahl/:


SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?


No and it's unlikely this will happen in the near future. Not only
SeaMonkey would need code changes but also the shared mailnews code for
it and Thunderbird. I wouldn't hold my breath.


Is it really like that?  I can see at the Help -> Troubleshooting 
Information  page:


Multiprocess Windows4/4 (Enabled by user)

I have explicitly set in the prefs:

browser.tabs.remote.autostart = true

The perceived performance and application UI responsiveness are much 
improved over previous versions (incl. SeaMonkey 2.45) on my side.  Is 
there a test I can try if multiprocess is really working for me?


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-05 Thread bwitzed
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016 03:00:04 UTC-7 schrieb Daniel:
> On 30/09/2016 8:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > Daniel wrote:
> >
>  Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles
>  than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new
>  profiles being created!!
> 
>  The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no
>  extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called
>  sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.
> 
>  The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no
>  extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called
>  inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.
> 
>  Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations.
>  Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account
>  Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the
>  bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account
>  in the "Local directory" spot!
> 
>  --
>  Daniel
> 
>  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
>  SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951
>  or
>  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
>  SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501
> >>>
> >>> But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer
> >>> to find the other profile on my computer.
> >>>
> >> Each profiles information is stored in a file called "prefs.js".
> >> Each mail accounts received e-mails are stored in a fill called "inbox"
> >> with its indexed file called "inbox.snm".
> >> Each mail accounts sent e-mails are stored in a fill called "sent" with
> >> its indexed file called "sent.snm".
> >>
> >> Didn't I just type that??
> >
> > You did, with numerous confusing and misleading typos.
> >
> > The index files (not "fills") on Windows are *.msf, not *.snm. My
> > Windows installation has no files anywhere in the profile named *.snm. I
> > can't say what they will be on Linux.
> 
> Ah. Yes. Sorry! :-(
> 
> Where do I get snm from??
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951
> or
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

Thanks.  I ask because this is a new  install of sm on a clean computer and 
profile files were previouslyv saved in various places so using profile in sm 
does not work.  Only an exploerer earch has a chance.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-03 Thread Ed Mullen

On 10/3/2016 at 4:45 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 3/10/2016 3:39 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/2/2016 at 5:59 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 2/10/2016 12:53 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would
have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it.
The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function
the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some
message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User
interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what
happens:




On my Win7 installation.

No problems (well, almost!!). Ed.

I went into Edit->Tools->Add-ons Manager and changed Java 8U101 from
"Always Activate" to "Ask to Activate". Re-booted SM just in case,
clicked on your link, Ed, and went straight there.

Was it supposed to ask me??

(The "well, almost" I included up above was because, when I first went
to the Add-ons Manager, Java was listed towards the top of that screen,
whereas when I returned to check, Java was listed towards the bottom of
that screen, in amongst those Add-ons which don't work or which SM
thinks I should update!)



With Java disabled you shoud get this:




*After* I posted my last response, I checked again and noticed the
"Activate Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U" line so I clicked the icon, and that
portion of the screen went blank except for a line in the top left which
had an picture and the text "Error - Click for details".

When I clicked, I got a seperate, little, Java window which had ...
Quote
Java Plug-in 11.101.2.13
Using JRE version 1.8.0_101-b13 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\Daniel
Unquote

then what looks like a listing of command keys. (c:   clear console
window, f:   finalize objects on finalization queue, g:   garbage
collect, etc., etc.)

But I don't get to see your pocketwatch, Ed.



Don't know what to say about that.  WFM.


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-03 Thread Daniel

On 3/10/2016 3:39 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/2/2016 at 5:59 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 2/10/2016 12:53 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would
have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function
the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what
happens:




On my Win7 installation.

No problems (well, almost!!). Ed.

I went into Edit->Tools->Add-ons Manager and changed Java 8U101 from
"Always Activate" to "Ask to Activate". Re-booted SM just in case,
clicked on your link, Ed, and went straight there.

Was it supposed to ask me??

(The "well, almost" I included up above was because, when I first went
to the Add-ons Manager, Java was listed towards the top of that screen,
whereas when I returned to check, Java was listed towards the bottom of
that screen, in amongst those Add-ons which don't work or which SM
thinks I should update!)



With Java disabled you shoud get this:



*After* I posted my last response, I checked again and noticed the 
"Activate Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U" line so I clicked the icon, and that 
portion of the screen went blank except for a line in the top left which 
had an picture and the text "Error - Click for details".


When I clicked, I got a seperate, little, Java window which had ...
Quote
Java Plug-in 11.101.2.13
Using JRE version 1.8.0_101-b13 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\Daniel
Unquote

then what looks like a listing of command keys. (c:   clear console 
window, f:   finalize objects on finalization queue, g:   garbage 
collect, etc., etc.)


But I don't get to see your pocketwatch, Ed.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-02 Thread Ed Mullen

On 10/2/2016 at 5:59 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 2/10/2016 12:53 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would
have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what happens:




On my Win7 installation.

No problems (well, almost!!). Ed.

I went into Edit->Tools->Add-ons Manager and changed Java 8U101 from
"Always Activate" to "Ask to Activate". Re-booted SM just in case,
clicked on your link, Ed, and went straight there.

Was it supposed to ask me??

(The "well, almost" I included up above was because, when I first went
to the Add-ons Manager, Java was listed towards the top of that screen,
whereas when I returned to check, Java was listed towards the bottom of
that screen, in amongst those Add-ons which don't work or which SM
thinks I should update!)



With Java disabled you shoud get this:



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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-02 Thread Daniel

On 2/10/2016 12:53 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what happens:




On my Win7 installation.

No problems (well, almost!!). Ed.

I went into Edit->Tools->Add-ons Manager and changed Java 8U101 from 
"Always Activate" to "Ask to Activate". Re-booted SM just in case, 
clicked on your link, Ed, and went straight there.


Was it supposed to ask me??

(The "well, almost" I included up above was because, when I first went 
to the Add-ons Manager, Java was listed towards the top of that screen, 
whereas when I returned to check, Java was listed towards the bottom of 
that screen, in amongst those Add-ons which don't work or which SM 
thinks I should update!)


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-02 Thread Daniel

On 2/10/2016 1:44 AM, Richard Alan wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 1/10/2016 9:52 PM, Richard Alan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it,
so thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address
into a tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got
the same error message!! ;-(


You should have removed the errant / (slash) at the end of the above
link.

http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp  or for English
http://www.java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp


And that language would be ..?? Seeing a word which almost
looks like "Amsterdam", I'm guessing Dutch!!


Deutsch (German). The "de" in the link is a good clue.


I'll pay that. I was basing my guess on "Außerdem" sort of looking like 
"Amsterdam"!! :-)


(Hmm!! YL,YL. I run spell checker as I'm sending an e-mail, and this 
time SM wanted to "correct" "Außerdem" and I clicked OK without looking, 
so it was "corrected" into "Legerdemian"! So, just on spec, I stopped 
the spell check and went to Edit->Undo ... and had my "Außerdem" back!!! 
Yah!!)

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SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Richard Alan wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Correct URL in German:


Correct URL in English:


The error was the omission of "s" from "https."


Either way works for me, with or without the "s".


OK, yeah, as long as you strip the slash at the end. Sorry.

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Richard Alan
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Correct URL in German:
> 
> 
> Correct URL in English:
> 
> 
> The error was the omission of "s" from "https."

Either way works for me, with or without the "s".
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Ray_Net

Ed Mullen wrote on 01/10/2016 16:53:

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would 
have

to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what happens:




For me, this is the result:

When I activate it, I got a pop-up "Java Application Blocked"
Blocked by Java Security.
"For security, applications must now meet the requirements for the High
or Very High security settings, or be part of the Exception Site List, 
to be allowed to run.

Name: Clock
Location: http://edmullen.net
REason: Your security settings have blocked an untrusted application 
from running.

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote
Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed


Correct URL in German:


Correct URL in English:


The error was the omission of "s" from "https."


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Richard Alan
Daniel wrote:

> On 1/10/2016 9:52 PM, Richard Alan wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it,
>>> so thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address
>>> into a tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got
>>> the same error message!! ;-(
>>
>> You should have removed the errant / (slash) at the end of the above
>> link.
>>
>> http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp  or for English
>> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp
>>
> And that language would be ..?? Seeing a word which almost
> looks like "Amsterdam", I'm guessing Dutch!!

Deutsch (German). The "de" in the link is a good clue.

> So, this time, the Java test page told me I had Java 8U101 installed,
> and it shows on the "Extensions" screen, not the "Plug-ins" screen where
> SM took me this time.
> 
> Why??

Sorry, I can't answer that question. I don't have Java installed. I've had 
no need of it for years. You probably don't either.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Ed Mullen

On 10/1/2016 at 6:07 AM, Daniel's prodigious digits fired off:

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.


Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function the
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??

Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??



Depends on what the page/app is and how it's built.

Set the Java plugin to "ask to activate" and go here to see what happens:



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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 1/10/2016 9:52 PM, Richard Alan wrote:

Daniel wrote:


On 1/10/2016 8:11 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed


Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it, so
thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address into a
tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got the same
error message!! ;-(


You should have removed the errant / (slash) at the end of the above link.

http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp  or for English
http://www.java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp

And that language would be ..?? Seeing a word which almost 
looks like "Amsterdam", I'm guessing Dutch!!


But the English link gives 

Quote
Congratulations!

You have the recommended Java installed (Version 8 Update 101).
End Quote

But   Bugger, at other times, when I've gone to Tools->Add-On 
Manager, I've been sent to the "Plug-ins" screen, but this time (without 
looking) I was taken to the "Extensions" screen, where Java is not 
listed, so figured I didn't have Java installed.


So, this time, the Java test page told me I had Java 8U101 installed, 
and it shows on the "Extensions" screen, not the "Plug-ins" screen where 
SM took me this time.


Why??

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 1/10/2016 9:22 PM, Heinz W. Simoneit wrote:

Daniel schrieb am 01.10.2016 um 12:42:

On 1/10/2016 8:11 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote
Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed


Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it,
so thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address
into a tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got
the same error message!! ;-(


Try this link:

http://tinyurl.com/mdmc45c


Heinz


I'm guessing German, but at least I get there. Thanks, though.

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Richard Alan
Daniel wrote:

> On 1/10/2016 8:11 PM, Daniel wrote:
>> On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
 bwitzed wrote:

> I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.
>
> How do I confirm that java is disabled?

>>> [...]

 Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.


>>> Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/
>>>
>> Clicking on that link 
>>
>> Quote Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.
>>
>> The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
>> provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
>> Unquote
>>
>> Or does that mean I don't have Java installed
>>
> Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it, so
> thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address into a
> tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got the same
> error message!! ;-(

You should have removed the errant / (slash) at the end of the above link.

http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp  or for English
http://www.java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Heinz W. Simoneit

Daniel schrieb am 01.10.2016 um 12:42:

On 1/10/2016 8:11 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote
Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed

Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it, 
so thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address 
into a tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got 
the same error message!! ;-(



Try this link:

http://tinyurl.com/mdmc45c


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 1/10/2016 8:11 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote
Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed

Hmm!! When re-reading my post, I noticed your link had an "8" in it, so 
thinking that may have caused the problem, I copied your address into a 
tab of my browser, edited out the "8", hit return . and got the same 
error message!! ;-(


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 30/09/2016 11:23 PM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?



[...]


Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.



Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/


Clicking on that link 

Quote
Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested.

The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you 
provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.

Unquote

Or does that mean I don't have Java installed

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 1/10/2016 12:57 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would have
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.

I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption
that you won't need it.

Chris, if you were to go to a site which "required" Java to function the 
way the developers wanted it to work, would you likely get some message 
asking you to turn on ("Click Here") Java for "best User interaction"??


Or would you just get a basically blank/black page??

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-10-01 Thread Daniel

On 30/09/2016 8:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles
than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new
profiles being created!!

The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no
extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called
sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.

The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no
extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called
inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.

Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations.
Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the
bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account
in the "Local directory" spot!

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But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer
to find the other profile on my computer.


Each profiles information is stored in a file called "prefs.js".
Each mail accounts received e-mails are stored in a fill called "inbox"
with its indexed file called "inbox.snm".
Each mail accounts sent e-mails are stored in a fill called "sent" with
its indexed file called "sent.snm".

Didn't I just type that??


You did, with numerous confusing and misleading typos.

The index files (not "fills") on Windows are *.msf, not *.snm. My
Windows installation has no files anywhere in the profile named *.snm. I
can't say what they will be on Linux.


Ah. Yes. Sorry! :-(

Where do I get snm from??

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-30 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> The index files (not "fills") on Windows are *.msf, not *.snm. My
> Windows installation has no files anywhere in the profile named *.snm. I
> can't say what they will be on Linux.

They are exactly the same.

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-30 Thread Chris Ilias

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't 
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would have 
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the 
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.


I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I 
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The 
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption 
that you won't need it.


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-30 Thread Wolfgang Steger
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
> bwitzed wrote:
> 
>> I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.
>>
>> How do I confirm that java is disabled?
> 
[...]
> 
> Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.
> 

Fast Check for *Java*: http://www.java.com/de/download/installed8.jsp/

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles
than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new
profiles being created!!

The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no
extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called
sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.

The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no
extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called
inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.

Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations.
Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the
bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account
in the "Local directory" spot!

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SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501


But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer
to find the other profile on my computer.


Each profiles information is stored in a file called "prefs.js".
Each mail accounts received e-mails are stored in a fill called "inbox"
with its indexed file called "inbox.snm".
Each mail accounts sent e-mails are stored in a fill called "sent" with
its indexed file called "sent.snm".

Didn't I just type that??


You did, with numerous confusing and misleading typos.

The index files (not "fills") on Windows are *.msf, not *.snm. My 
Windows installation has no files anywhere in the profile named *.snm. I 
can't say what they will be on Linux.


Windows SM also has a file type *.sbd, which appears when a mail folder 
has one or more subfolders. For example, I have a folder structure like 
this (as viewed from inside SM):


Sent
└2006
└2007
└2008
└...

And the corresponding files are
Sent
Sent.msf
\Sent.sbd
 └2006
 └2006.msf
 └2007
 └2007.msf
 └2008
 └2008.msf
 └...

So if I wanted to transfer my entire Sent folder, I would copy the files 
Sent and Sent.msf and the folder \Sent.sbd.


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-30 Thread Daniel

On 30/09/2016 7:16 AM, bwitzed wrote:

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 3:27:05 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:

On 24/09/2016 4:10 AM, bwitzed wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:16:54 AM UTC-7, TCW wrote:

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT),
bwitzed wrote:


I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey
2.40, though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I
can no longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences
have nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session
manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and every of
multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to
do? 2.41?

I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my
previous sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike
all other browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to
all sorts of unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this
and seamonkey?


Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
fixes the problem?


  > Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.
  > What more does this new version give me?

Greater, or updated, security, maybe! Other improvements.

  > And how do I find my old profiles? What is the file or file extension
  > I am looking for?

Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles
than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new
profiles being created!!

The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no
extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called
sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.

The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no
extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called
inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.

Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations.
Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the
bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account
in the "Local directory" spot!

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SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501


But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer to find 
the other profile on my computer.


Each profiles information is stored in a file called "prefs.js".
Each mail accounts received e-mails are stored in a fill called "inbox" 
with its indexed file called "inbox.snm".
Each mail accounts sent e-mails are stored in a fill called "sent" with 
its indexed file called "sent.snm".


Didn't I just type that??

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread WaltS48

On 09/29/2016 05:16 PM, bwitzed wrote:

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 3:27:05 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:

On 24/09/2016 4:10 AM, bwitzed wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:16:54 AM UTC-7, TCW wrote:

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT),
bwitzed wrote:


I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey
2.40, though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I
can no longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences
have nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session
manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and every of
multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to
do? 2.41?

I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my
previous sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike
all other browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to
all sorts of unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this
and seamonkey?


Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
fixes the problem?


 > Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.
 > What more does this new version give me?

Greater, or updated, security, maybe! Other improvements.

 > And how do I find my old profiles? What is the file or file extension
 > I am looking for?

Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles
than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new
profiles being created!!

The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no
extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called
sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.

The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no
extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called
inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.

Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations.
Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the
bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account
in the "Local directory" spot!

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But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer to find 
the other profile on my computer.




Click Help > Troubleshooting Information, or enter about:support into 
the address bar, then click the Open Directory button in the Application 
Basics section.


That will show you the location of the profile you are using. The other 
profiles should be in the same location.


See: 

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

bwitzed wrote:


I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


CTRL-SHIFT-A

Choose "Plugins" from the menu at left.

Look for a listing like this:
Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U101

At the right, you'll see a button with the options
[Always Activate]
[Ask to Activate]   
[Never Activate]

The first option will just run Java whenever a website wants to. The 
second option will prompt you for a decision each time a website wants 
to run Java. The third will just ignore the request without asking you.


Choose as you think best.

If you want more details, click "More."

Remember, Java is not the same as javascript.

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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread WaltS48

On 09/29/2016 05:12 PM, bwitzed wrote:

Do you have a good and simple link to the latest stable and secure version.





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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread bwitzed
On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 3:27:05 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:
> On 24/09/2016 4:10 AM, bwitzed wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:16:54 AM UTC-7, TCW wrote:
> >> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT),
> >> bwitzed wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey
> >>> 2.40, though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I
> >>> can no longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences
> >>> have nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session
> >>> manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and every of
> >>> multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to
> >>> do? 2.41?
> >>>
> >>> I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my
> >>> previous sessions?
> >>>
> >>> Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike
> >>> all other browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to
> >>> all sorts of unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this
> >>> and seamonkey?
> >>
> >> Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
> >> fixes the problem?
> 
>  > Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.
>  > What more does this new version give me?
> 
> Greater, or updated, security, maybe! Other improvements.
> 
>  > And how do I find my old profiles? What is the file or file extension
>  > I am looking for?
> 
> Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles 
> than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new 
> profiles being created!!
> 
> The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no 
> extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called 
> sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.
> 
> The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no 
> extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called 
> inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.
> 
> Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations. 
> Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account 
> Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the 
> bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account 
> in the "Local directory" spot!
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
> SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951
> or
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
> SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

But what is the filename or extension I search for in indows explorer to find 
the other profile on my computer.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread bwitzed
Do you have a good and simple link to the latest stable and secure version.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread bwitzed
On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 12:39:38 AM UTC-7, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> The image permissions problem was likely fixed in 2.44. Unfortunately no 
> official new release yet. You can try the latest 2.45 from Adrian:
> 
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
> 
> When a new official release arrives you just need to install the 
> complete installer. If you want to go back to 2.40 backup your profile
> 
> If you don't care about your privacy and like sh*tty ugly so called 
> modern 2D interfaces on you desktop then Chrome is at least the browser 
> with the biggest market share right now... I stick with SeaMonkey :) 
> Chrome has no email client so you need to install a separate mail client 
> for Chrome.
> 
> FRG
> 
> bwitzed wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 8:37:42 PM UTC-7, bwitzed  wrote:
> >> I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though 
> >> it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY 
> >> images in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I 
> >> disabled all addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think 
> >> opening each and every of multitudinal images in the browser is a 
> >> workaround.  So, what to do? 2.41?
> >>
> >> I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
> >> sessions?
> >>
> >> Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
> >> browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of 
> >> unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?
> >
> > btw, i have win 10 64
> >

That is very confusing as to whih is right for my win 10 x64
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread bwitzed
I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread Richard Alan
bwitzed wrote:

> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 2:01:27 PM UTC-7, EE wrote:
>> bwitzed wrote:
>> > I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40,
>> > though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no
>> > longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences have
>> > nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session manager to no
>> > avail.  I do not think opening each and every of multitudinal images
>> > in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 2.41?
>> >
>> > I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my
>> > previous sessions?
>> >
>> > Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all
>> > other browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all
>> > sorts of unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this and
>> > seamonkey?
>> >
>> You can disable java.  I did that over a year ago.  My operating system
>> has java as part of it, so I could not remove it.
> 
> So it is true? Java is a oncern for security?

Java has been a security concern for years. Your statement about Chrome is 
false. SeaMonkey and Firefox do not use Java either. 

> What about websites that require it?

Name some. I don't know of any mainstream web sites that require Java. I 
hope you are not confusing Java and *JavaScript* which is a completely 
different thing.

Regarding images in your email, do you mean embedded or attached images, 
or *remote content*?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-29 Thread bwitzed
On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 2:01:27 PM UTC-7, EE wrote:
> bwitzed wrote:
> > I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though 
> > it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY 
> > images in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I 
> > disabled all addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think 
> > opening each and every of multitudinal images in the browser is a 
> > workaround.  So, what to do? 2.41?
> >
> > I also hate resetting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
> > sessions?
> >
> > Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
> > browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of 
> > unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?
> >
> You can disable java.  I did that over a year ago.  My operating system 
> has java as part of it, so I could not remove it.

So it is true? Java is a oncern for security? What about websites that require 
it?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-27 Thread TCW
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:16:41 +0200, Frank-Rainer Grahl 
wrote:

> > SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?
>
>No and it's unlikely this will happen in the near future. Not only 
>SeaMonkey would need code changes but also the shared mailnews code for 
>it and Thunderbird. I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
>Somewhere around 2.43 SeaMonkey got a subjective speed boost. I suspect 
>changes in the Javascript engine are responsible for it mostly. Now 
>build with VS2015 but I didn't see any speed differences between VS2013 
>and VS2015 while doing parallel builds a few months ago.
>
>Personally until a new official release arrives use Adrians comm-release 
>builds. 2.46 has almost a 100 fixes in the SeaMonkey code alone compared 
>to 2.40. Bug reports against Adrians builds are accepted.
>
>FRG
>
>
>WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 09/26/2016 09:42 AM, TCW wrote:
>>
>> SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?
>>
>> I can't see any difference in my Firefox Beta without electrolysis and
>> My Firefox Nightly with it. YMMV
>>
>>
>> --
>> Visit Pittsburgh 
>> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
>>

I've seen pretty good speed improvements from 2.45 > 2.46 > 2.47b.
2.46 is pretty stable though and I agree, it's good to use his build.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-26 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

> SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?

No and it's unlikely this will happen in the near future. Not only 
SeaMonkey would need code changes but also the shared mailnews code for 
it and Thunderbird. I wouldn't hold my breath.


Somewhere around 2.43 SeaMonkey got a subjective speed boost. I suspect 
changes in the Javascript engine are responsible for it mostly. Now 
build with VS2015 but I didn't see any speed differences between VS2013 
and VS2015 while doing parallel builds a few months ago.


Personally until a new official release arrives use Adrians comm-release 
builds. 2.46 has almost a 100 fixes in the SeaMonkey code alone compared 
to 2.40. Bug reports against Adrians builds are accepted.


FRG


WaltS48 wrote:

On 09/26/2016 09:42 AM, TCW wrote:

SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?

I can't see any difference in my Firefox Beta without electrolysis and
My Firefox Nightly with it. YMMV


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-26 Thread WaltS48

On 09/26/2016 09:42 AM, TCW wrote:

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT), bwit...@gmail.com wrote:


Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.  What more 
does this new version give me?

And how do Ifind my old profiles? What is the file or file extension I am 
looking for?

And more thoughts on java, backdoors, security and chrome?

Well, it'll be based on the latest stable Thunderbird/Firefox for one
so bug and security fixes included. Plus you'll get a major speed
boost from the Electrolysis stuff. I just bumped up to the 2.47 beta
and man it is way fast on my Dell laptop from 2008 than even 2.46 was.

You can grab a stable build of 2.46 built by a Moz developer from
here: http://goo.gl/9R2c0i

It's based off Firefox 49 and, I am assuming, Thunderbird 45.3.0. Give
it a shot.



SeaMonkey has electrolysis stuff?

I can't see any difference in my Firefox Beta without electrolysis and 
My Firefox Nightly with it. YMMV



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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-26 Thread TCW
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT), bwit...@gmail.com wrote:

>Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.  What more 
>does this new version give me?
>
>And how do Ifind my old profiles? What is the file or file extension I am 
>looking for?
>
>And more thoughts on java, backdoors, security and chrome?

Well, it'll be based on the latest stable Thunderbird/Firefox for one
so bug and security fixes included. Plus you'll get a major speed
boost from the Electrolysis stuff. I just bumped up to the 2.47 beta
and man it is way fast on my Dell laptop from 2008 than even 2.46 was.

You can grab a stable build of 2.46 built by a Moz developer from
here: http://goo.gl/9R2c0i

It's based off Firefox 49 and, I am assuming, Thunderbird 45.3.0. Give
it a shot.
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-24 Thread Daniel

On 24/09/2016 4:10 AM, bwit...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:16:54 AM UTC-7, TCW wrote:

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT),
techfor...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:


I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey
2.40, though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I
can no longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences
have nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session
manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and every of
multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to
do? 2.41?

I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my
previous sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike
all other browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to
all sorts of unsavory things.  So what can you tell me on this
and seamonkey?


Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
fixes the problem?


> Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.
> What more does this new version give me?

Greater, or updated, security, maybe! Other improvements.

> And how do Ifind my old profiles? What is the file or file extension
> I am looking for?

Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles to see if you have more profiles 
than you would expect. Sometimes things happen which result in new 
profiles being created!!


The e-mails that you have sent are stored in a file called sent. no 
extension, just sent, although there should also be a file called 
sent.snm, which is the index file for the sent file.


The e-mails that you receive are stored in a file called Inbox. no 
extension, just Inbox, although there should also be a file called 
inbox.snm, which is the index file for the inbox file.


Do a Windows Search for either of these files to find their locations. 
Or, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account 
Settings, select "Server Settings" for your e-mail account and, at the 
bottom of that screen, you should see the location of your Mail account 
in the "Local directory" spot!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-23 Thread EE

techfor...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:

I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though it 
has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY images 
in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled all 
addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and 
every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 
2.41?

I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?

You can disable java.  I did that over a year ago.  My operating system 
has java as part of it, so I could not remove it.


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-23 Thread bwitzed
Yes but apparently the problem was in privacy so it is working now.  What more 
does this new version give me?

And how do Ifind my old profiles? What is the file or file extension I am 
looking for?

And more thoughts on java, backdoors, security and chrome?

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:16:54 AM UTC-7, TCW wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT), techfor...@tucsonhappens.org
> wrote:
> 
> >I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though 
> >it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY 
> >images in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled 
> >all addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each 
> >and every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what 
> >to do? 2.41?
> >
> >I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
> >sessions?
> >
> >Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
> >browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
> >things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?
> 
> Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
> fixes the problem?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-22 Thread TCW
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT), techfor...@tucsonhappens.org
wrote:

>I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though it 
>has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY images 
>in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled all 
>addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and 
>every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 
>2.41?
>
>I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
>sessions?
>
>Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
>browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
>things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?

Would you be willing to try a stable build of SM 2.45 to see if it
fixes the problem?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
The image permissions problem was likely fixed in 2.44. Unfortunately no 
official new release yet. You can try the latest 2.45 from Adrian:


https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

When a new official release arrives you just need to install the 
complete installer. If you want to go back to 2.40 backup your profile


If you don't care about your privacy and like sh*tty ugly so called 
modern 2D interfaces on you desktop then Chrome is at least the browser 
with the biggest market share right now... I stick with SeaMonkey :) 
Chrome has no email client so you need to install a separate mail client 
for Chrome.


FRG

techfor...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 8:37:42 PM UTC-7, 
techf...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:

I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though it 
has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY images 
in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled all 
addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and 
every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 
2.41?

I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?


btw, i have win 10 64



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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-21 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

techfor...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:


I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40,
though it has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no
longer see ANY images in my email, though the preferences have
nothing blocked.  I disabled all addons except session manager to no
avail.  I do not think opening each and every of multitudinal images
in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 2.41?


First check this pref:

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images:
Image Acceptance Policy
Specify how SeaMonkey handles images.
(o) Do not load any images
(o) Only load images that come from the originating server
(•) Load all images

This pref, if you choose the first setting, will block all images in 
HTML messages regardless of their source. I recommend the third setting, 
provided you also set:


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Message Display:
General
...
[x] Block images and other content from remote sources

Setting this pref will block remote images such as web beacons and show 
only images that are actually embedded in HTML messages.




Sorry, can't answer your other two questions.

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No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-21 Thread techforums
I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though it 
has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY images 
in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled all 
addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and 
every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 
2.41?

I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
sessions?

Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?
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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

2016-09-21 Thread techforums
On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 8:37:42 PM UTC-7, 
techf...@tucsonhappens.org wrote:
> I am very frustrated that now that I have installed seamonkey 2.40, though it 
> has solved the problem of continuous crashing, I can no longer see ANY images 
> in my email, though the preferences have nothing blocked.  I disabled all 
> addons except session manager to no avail.  I do not think opening each and 
> every of multitudinal images in the browser is a workaround.  So, what to do? 
> 2.41?
> 
> I also hate restting myself up each time, but how do I find my previous 
> sessions?
> 
> Lastly,  I heard that Chrome is the best browser because, unlike all other 
> browsers, it does not use java which is a back door to all sorts of unsavory 
> things.  So what can you tell me on this and seamonkey?

btw, i have win 10 64
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