Re: Address Book \ Tools \ Export working incorrectly in the past couple of SM releases

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 03/12/2020 03:28, Michael Lueck wrote:

> I have noticed sudden incorrect behavior being done by SM in the last
couple of release versions.

Impacted function is Address Book \ Tools \ Export  and then csv for the 
file type.


The first file created contains just the csv header row defining column 
names.


The UI loops back to the file save as dialog box once you specify the 
filename... and the second time you end up with the exported records.


However the UI loops yet again... at that point I get aggravated and 
cancel out of the vicious loop.


Works OK for me, SM 2.53.1 Linux x86, for file types CSV (System 
charset) and CSV (UTF-8) (which should be the same, anyway):


-   Window>Address Book

-   select folder in left-hand pane

-   Tools>Export...

-   enter filename

-   Save.

Maybe you have an extension loaded that's affecting it? You could try 
the operation with the Error Console (clear it first) to see if any 
relevant messages appear.


What I did observe is that selecting address items in the right-hand 
pane doesn't affect the exported list: you still get the whole folder. I 
would probably have aimed for an option All|Only selected in that case.


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Re: Address book handling: Collected Addresses

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 08/10/2020 12:07, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 
[Collected Addresses address book re-acquires addresses that were 
previously filed into other address books or deleted]


Any idea of how to get around this problem?

Smith


I have the same question.  Also, How can I remove duplicate addresses?


In the original  bug 
thread you can read how the feature to not re-acquire addresses in other 
ABs was implemented and why it might not be working.


One issue that I noticed is that it was possible to have an address book 
entry whose Email field had leading spaces. I don't think that should 
have been possible. That was the only apparent duplicate in my CAB. If 
there were duplicates, sorting the CAB by Email should reveal them for 
deletion.


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Re: Address book handling: Collected Addresses

[meagain]

 Original Message 
I happen to be running Seamonkey 2.53.2, but I'm realizing that I've 
been seeing this for some time -- certainly in various releases of 2.49, 
and possibly further back than that.


I make periodic visits to my Collected Addresses address book, and 
generally move the addresses I want to keep permanently into other 
address books, and discard most of the rest.


Usually, I don't pay attention to handling until much later when I 
repeat the exercise (sometimes months apart), but more than once, I've 
noticed addresses in Collected Addresses with a deja vu feeling of "I 
thought I had moved or deleted that address a long time ago".


What's happening is that once I move or delete addresses, and Seamonkey 
restarts, a re-visit to Collected Addresses shows those addresses still 
there, although for moved addresses, they are being correctly copied to 
other folders.


As far as I can tell, I'm only seeing this on the Collected Addresses 
folder, although I don't frequently delete addresses from other folders.


If I was seeing this kind of effect on a mail folder, I would normally 
re-index the folder, but I'm not aware of a similar capacity for doing 
that with an address book.



Any idea of how to get around this problem?

Smith


I have the same question.  Also, How can I remove duplicate addresses?

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Re: Address Book Location

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 17/05/2020 10:33 PM:

On 5/17/20 3:38 AM, Daniel wrote:

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:
go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application 
basics' , that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , 
but  you can copy the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the 
event you need to restore


On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?

When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??



You missed the troubleshooting menu step. ;)

Better known as Help > Troubleshooting Information.


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Re: Address Book Location

[EE]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Daniel wrote:

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:
go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application 
basics' , that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , 
but  you can copy the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the 
event you need to restore


On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?

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When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??



Weird.
"Application Basics" is the first section on my "Troubleshooting 
Information", as you can see I'm running 2.49.4 on this (Linux) machine.
Just for giggles I clicked on the "Open Directory" button in the 
"Profile Directory" entry.  It mangled the path and told me that mangled 
path did not exist - doh!, no idea why it tried to open that 
non-existent path in Super-User mode.  I'll have to check those bugs on 
a more current version.
This is also pretty irrelevant - the OP clearly knows where the profile 
is, he just did not know which file was the address book.


In Troubleshooting Information, try looking at "Profile Folder".  There 
should be a button there to show you the profile.


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Re: Address Book Location

[WaltS48]

On 5/17/20 3:38 AM, Daniel wrote:

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:
go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application 
basics' , that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , 
but  you can copy the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the 
event you need to restore


On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?






When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??



You missed the troubleshooting menu step. ;)

Better known as Help > Troubleshooting Information.

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Re: Address Book Location

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
"Application Basics" is the first section on my "Troubleshooting 
Information", as you can see I'm running 2.49.4 on this (Linux) machine.
Just for giggles I clicked on the "Open Directory" button in the 
"Profile Directory" entry.  It mangled the path and told me that mangled 
path did not exist - doh!, no idea why it tried to open that 
non-existent path in Super-User mode.  I'll have to check those bugs on 
a more current version.
Those bugs (bad path, opening in SU mode) have been fixed in the Linux 
2.53.2, things also work as they should on my Windows 10 machine with 
2.53.2.


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Re: Address Book Location

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Daniel wrote:

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:
go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application 
basics' , that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , 
but  you can copy the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the 
event you need to restore


On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?

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When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??



Weird.
"Application Basics" is the first section on my "Troubleshooting 
Information", as you can see I'm running 2.49.4 on this (Linux) machine.
Just for giggles I clicked on the "Open Directory" button in the 
"Profile Directory" entry.  It mangled the path and told me that mangled 
path did not exist - doh!, no idea why it tried to open that 
non-existent path in Super-User mode.  I'll have to check those bugs on 
a more current version.
This is also pretty irrelevant - the OP clearly knows where the profile 
is, he just did not know which file was the address book.


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Re: Address Book Location

[Daniel]

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:

go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application basics' , 
that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , but  you can copy 
the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the event you need to restore

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?

--
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https://www.avg.com


When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??

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Re: Address Book Location

[rmpbklyn]

go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application basics' , 
that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , but  you can copy 
the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the event you need to restore

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:
> I can't find the Address Book Location
> 
> Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
> What is it called?
> 
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Re: Address Book Location

[Ant]

On 5/14/2020 11:33 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?


At a guess, abook.mab


Yep. If you have more than one, then abook-1.mab, abook-2.mab, 
abook-3.mab, etc.

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Re: Address Book Location

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?



At a guess, abook.mab

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Re: Address Book and Mail from Backup

[DoctorBill]

Daniel wrote:

On 1/04/2017 3:22 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am setting up SM 2.46 on a win 7 computer I bought used.

My old computer was under XP and used SM 2.1.1 (I think ! - crashed and
can't go back to it - until I figure HOW !).

I had backed up my old SM in December 2016 to a Thumb Drive.

Can I put the old Address Book and Mail Files from that backup into this
newer version of SM ?

I see abook.mab and a folder named MAIL in the backup files.

I have to do this every five years or so and I forget the procedure
after about a month.  Getting old and can't remember this stuff.

DoctorBill


Doctor, I would *guess* that your folder named "MAIL" may contain your
entire e-mail set-up (inbox, sent, Drafts, etc.) so if you copy it onto
your new computer AFTER RE-NAMING IT something like MAILOLD, at the same
level as the new installed SM MAIL, you might be able to select it
with-in SM by going to Tools->Switch Profiles then select "Manage
Profiles" then "Create Profile" to start the Profile Wizard and, on the
second screen, enter a name for your "new" profile, e.g. "MAILOLD", then
on that screen select "Choose Folder" and work your way to where you
saved your old profile from the Thumb Drive.

Come back if you need more info, Doctor.



I was able to import the Address Book from an older Backup of my Hard 
Drive "LDIF" File.


In the middle of a Crash and Transfer operation. Dead Win XP...

Will buy a "SATA/PATA/IDE adapter to USB gizmo locally tomorrow as 
advised by Johnathon N. Little !  Thanks Jonathan !


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Re: Address Book and Mail from Backup

[Daniel]

On 1/04/2017 3:22 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am setting up SM 2.46 on a win 7 computer I bought used.

My old computer was under XP and used SM 2.1.1 (I think ! - crashed and
can't go back to it - until I figure HOW !).

I had backed up my old SM in December 2016 to a Thumb Drive.

Can I put the old Address Book and Mail Files from that backup into this
newer version of SM ?

I see abook.mab and a folder named MAIL in the backup files.

I have to do this every five years or so and I forget the procedure
after about a month.  Getting old and can't remember this stuff.

DoctorBill


Doctor, I would *guess* that your folder named "MAIL" may contain your 
entire e-mail set-up (inbox, sent, Drafts, etc.) so if you copy it onto 
your new computer AFTER RE-NAMING IT something like MAILOLD, at the same 
level as the new installed SM MAIL, you might be able to select it 
with-in SM by going to Tools->Switch Profiles then select "Manage 
Profiles" then "Create Profile" to start the Profile Wizard and, on the 
second screen, enter a name for your "new" profile, e.g. "MAILOLD", then 
on that screen select "Choose Folder" and work your way to where you 
saved your old profile from the Thumb Drive.


Come back if you need more info, Doctor.

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SOLVED: Re: Address Book Contacts Disappeared

[Brian Mailman]

Daniel wrote:

On 17/12/2016 8:31 AM, Brian Mailman wrote:

Seamonkey 2.40
Windows 10

Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation
(if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun
came from) with a stack of bccs.

Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20
years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank
slate.

Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

B/

Brian, up in the top left of your Address Book screen, do you see a
"Look in" section?? If so, is it set to "Collected Addresses" or
"Personal Address Book"?? Have you tried the other selection??


Thanks to everyone who tried to help.  This turned out be a PEBKAC 
(Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair).  When the Window/pane is 
minimized the addresses disappear.  When I maximize or resize it to be 
larger they reappear.


Sorry for the false alarm :( :(

B/




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Re: Address Book Contacts Disappeared

[Daniel]

On 17/12/2016 8:31 AM, Brian Mailman wrote:

Seamonkey 2.40
Windows 10

Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation
(if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun
came from) with a stack of bccs.

Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20
years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank slate.

Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

B/
Brian, up in the top left of your Address Book screen, do you see a 
"Look in" section?? If so, is it set to "Collected Addresses" or 
"Personal Address Book"?? Have you tried the other selection??


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Re: Address Book Contacts Disappeared

[Mason83]

On 16/12/2016 22:31, Brian Mailman wrote:

> Seamonkey 2.40
> Windows 10
> 
> Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation 
> (if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun 
> came from) with a stack of bccs.
> 
> Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20 
> years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank slate.
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

In your profile directory, which you can reach via about:support
do you see a file called abook.mab or anything similar?

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Re: Address book fix: coming soon?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

NFN Smith wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

We've had several complaints -- and I can reproduce them -- about users
being unable to move records from one address book or list to another.
Is there a fix in the works?

I'm on SM 2.38/Win7, but this has been going on for quite some time.


Have you filed a report with Bugzilla on this one?


I haven't, no, because it's been so thoroughly discussed for so long 
that I just assumed one had been filed. If memory serves, it's been the 
better part of a year.


Found one:

Two other bugs marked as dupes of this one.

At least as old as 2.35; one poster says never before that.

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Re: Address book fix: coming soon?

[NFN Smith]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

We've had several complaints -- and I can reproduce them -- about users
being unable to move records from one address book or list to another.
Is there a fix in the works?

I'm on SM 2.38/Win7, but this has been going on for quite some time.



Have you filed a report with Bugzilla on this one?

Smith

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Re: Address book fix: coming soon?

[Pololo]

 Original Message 
Subject: Address book fix: coming soon?
From: Paul B. Gallagher 
To:
Date: 08/10/15 19:07


We've had several complaints -- and I can reproduce them -- about users
being unable to move records from one address book or list to another.
Is there a fix in the works?

I'm on SM 2.38/Win7, but this has been going on for quite some time.

Thanks.

Using SM 2.39beta, for now it is possible to move contacts from one 
address book to another or to a mailing list.


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Re: Address Book Problem

[Tom Pamin]

Tom Pamin wrote:

My address book is not showing a list of all my contacts. It only shows
one at a time. I think I saw that SM had an issue with this awhile ago.
How do I fix it?


I fixed it by changing the pane view.
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Re: Address book help

[Ant]

On 9/15/2014 3:01 PM PT, Juiceman typed:


Is there a quick way to copy my address book from one computer to
another one that also has SeaMonkey installed on it? Also will the same
address work with Mozilla Thunderbird?


I just copy those abook*.mab files over to the other machine with SM.
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Re: Address book help

[Juiceman]

W3BNR wrote:

On 9/15/2014 6:01 PM, Juiceman wrote:

Is there a quick way to copy my address book from one computer to
another one that also has SeaMonkey installed on it? Also will the same
address work with Mozilla Thunderbird?


Addressbook - Tools - Export as .ldif file on first machine.
Addressbook - Tools - Import on second machine


Thanks for the help.
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Re: Address book help

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On 9/15/2014 6:01 PM, Juiceman wrote:
> Is there a quick way to copy my address book from one computer to
> another one that also has SeaMonkey installed on it? Also will the same
> address work with Mozilla Thunderbird?

Addressbook - Tools - Export as .ldif file on first machine.
Addressbook - Tools - Import on second machine

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Re: address book

[Rick Merrill]

Ray_Net wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote, On 29/12/2013 21:39:

On 12/29/2013 1:41 PM, Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:
I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have been doing 
export on

one computer and import on another but that becomes a bit tedious with multiple
address books.


The e-mail address books are separate files in your profile directory.
They have the .mab extension.

Once you have linked them to the configuration (by creating an address
book in Seamonkey and giving it a name), you can then just copy the
.mab files from one computer to another, overwriting the file with the
same name that is already there.

When you just copy a .mab file to another profile where it has not already
been configured, it will not be noticed by Seamonkey and I know of no
end-user-level method to add it.
(it is possible to do it by adding settings to about:config)



Suppose I created  a new profile - could I tell SeaMonkey where to put it? i.e. on 
a dropbox folder?




Could this url help you ?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder


I actually did that about a year ago. Thanks for the pointer.  What I really 
want
is for "SeaMonkey Sync" to go beyond history.tabs.bookmarks.passwords, and 
include
the address books ;-)


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Re: address book

[Ray_Net]

Rick Merrill wrote, On 29/12/2013 21:39:

On 12/29/2013 1:41 PM, Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:
I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have 
been doing export on
one computer and import on another but that becomes a bit tedious 
with multiple

address books.


The e-mail address books are separate files in your profile directory.
They have the .mab extension.

Once you have linked them to the configuration (by creating an address
book in Seamonkey and giving it a name), you can then just copy the
.mab files from one computer to another, overwriting the file with the
same name that is already there.

When you just copy a .mab file to another profile where it has not 
already

been configured, it will not be noticed by Seamonkey and I know of no
end-user-level method to add it.
(it is possible to do it by adding settings to about:config)



Suppose I created  a new profile - could I tell SeaMonkey where to put 
it? i.e. on a dropbox folder?




Could this url help you ?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder

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Re: address book

[Rick Merrill]

On 12/29/2013 1:41 PM, Rob wrote:

Rick Merrill  wrote:

I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have been doing 
export on
one computer and import on another but that becomes a bit tedious with multiple
address books.


The e-mail address books are separate files in your profile directory.
They have the .mab extension.

Once you have linked them to the configuration (by creating an address
book in Seamonkey and giving it a name), you can then just copy the
.mab files from one computer to another, overwriting the file with the
same name that is already there.

When you just copy a .mab file to another profile where it has not already
been configured, it will not be noticed by Seamonkey and I know of no
end-user-level method to add it.
(it is possible to do it by adding settings to about:config)



Suppose I created  a new profile - could I tell SeaMonkey where to put it? i.e. 
on a dropbox folder?


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Re: address book

[Rob]

Rick Merrill  wrote:
> I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have been doing 
> export on 
> one computer and import on another but that becomes a bit tedious with 
> multiple 
> address books.

The e-mail address books are separate files in your profile directory.
They have the .mab extension.

Once you have linked them to the configuration (by creating an address
book in Seamonkey and giving it a name), you can then just copy the
.mab files from one computer to another, overwriting the file with the
same name that is already there.

When you just copy a .mab file to another profile where it has not already
been configured, it will not be noticed by Seamonkey and I know of no
end-user-level method to add it.
(it is possible to do it by adding settings to about:config)
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Re: address book

[WaltS]

On 12/29/2013 09:50 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 29/12/13 13:02, Rick Merrill wrote:

Just as with the SeaMonkey Cache, i would like to put all of my address
book information
in a specialized directory.  How is that possible?


Rick, I'm a bit thick, so I have to ask are you referring to the
Website Address Book or the E-Mail Address Book.

If the former, then your Website Address Book is stored as part of the
places.sqlite file, and I've got no idea how you can go about moving
it and having SeaMonkey know where it now is.

If the later, then your E-mail Address Book is stored as part of your
profile, and you can find its location by looking at the "Local
directory" on "Server Settings". Your profile, including the E-mail
Address Book (bookmarks.mab, I think) will be in one of the
directories just above the "Local directory". Click on the Addressbook
icon in the bottom left of the SeaMonkey screen, then select
Tools->Export to save you Bookmarks file in the location you want,
then, in the Address Book, click Tools->Import and then SeaMonkey will
save any further e-mail addresses added to the mab address book in
this new location.


Is the "website address book" part  of SeaMonkey? At any rate I'm not
familiar with that.

I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have been
doing export on one computer and import on another but that becomes a
bit tedious with multiple address books.

What would be cool is to have a common place for all addresses. I that
what the Website Address Book does?



I would think "Website Address Book" is bookmarks.
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Re: address book

[Rick Merrill]

Daniel wrote:

On 29/12/13 13:02, Rick Merrill wrote:

Just as with the SeaMonkey Cache, i would like to put all of my address
book information
in a specialized directory.  How is that possible?


Rick, I'm a bit thick, so I have to ask are you referring to the Website Address 
Book or the E-Mail Address Book.


If the former, then your Website Address Book is stored as part of the 
places.sqlite file, and I've got no idea how you can go about moving it and having 
SeaMonkey know where it now is.


If the later, then your E-mail Address Book is stored as part of your profile, and 
you can find its location by looking at the "Local directory" on "Server Settings". 
Your profile, including the E-mail Address Book (bookmarks.mab, I think) will be in 
one of the directories just above the "Local directory". Click on the Addressbook 
icon in the bottom left of the SeaMonkey screen, then select Tools->Export to save 
you Bookmarks file in the location you want, then, in the Address Book, click 
Tools->Import and then SeaMonkey will save any further e-mail addresses added to 
the mab address book in this new location.



Is the "website address book" part  of SeaMonkey? At any rate I'm not familiar 
with that.

I'm wondering if Email Address Books can live elsewhere.  I have been doing export on 
one computer and import on another but that becomes a bit tedious with multiple 
address books.


What would be cool is to have a common place for all addresses. I that what the 
Website Address Book does?

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Re: address book

[Daniel]

On 29/12/13 13:02, Rick Merrill wrote:

Just as with the SeaMonkey Cache, i would like to put all of my address
book information
in a specialized directory.  How is that possible?


Rick, I'm a bit thick, so I have to ask are you referring to the Website 
Address Book or the E-Mail Address Book.


If the former, then your Website Address Book is stored as part of the 
places.sqlite file, and I've got no idea how you can go about moving it 
and having SeaMonkey know where it now is.


If the later, then your E-mail Address Book is stored as part of your 
profile, and you can find its location by looking at the "Local 
directory" on "Server Settings". Your profile, including the E-mail 
Address Book (bookmarks.mab, I think) will be in one of the directories 
just above the "Local directory". Click on the Addressbook icon in the 
bottom left of the SeaMonkey screen, then select Tools->Export to save 
you Bookmarks file in the location you want, then, in the Address Book, 
click Tools->Import and then SeaMonkey will save any further e-mail 
addresses added to the mab address book in this new location.


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Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810


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Re: address book email list causes crash

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-08-15 4:55 AM, Klaus Weber wrote:

Win XP Seamonkey 2.2

Hello,

today I tried several times to change an address in an email list of the
address book. Each time seamonkey crashes before I could change the
address. What to do?


Does the Mozilla Crash Reporter come up? If so,
1. Open SeaMonkey.
2. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, then click on 
"about:crashes". That should take you to a page listing your crash reports.
3. Click on your latest crash report, which should take you to a web 
page starting with "https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/"; 4. 
Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash 
report.
We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better 
idea of what is causing the problem.


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Re: address book email list causes crash

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

Klaus Weber wrote:

Win XP Seamonkey 2.2

Hello,

today I tried several times to change an address in an email list of the
address book. Each time seamonkey crashes before I could change the
address. What to do?

Regards
Klaus


Klaus, it's my understanding that e-mail lists use the e-mail addresses
in your main list, so to change an e-mail address used on a list, you
need to delete the e-mail address from the list, change the address in
your main list and then add this new address from your main list to your
e-mail list.

Or would just changing the e-mail address in the main list then change
the address in the list as well?? Could be worth a try!!


I tried it both ways here in 2.20 (which BTW is what Klaus has, not 
2.2), and both times it worked like a charm. First I edited the record 
in the list, and the change propagated up to the address book. Then I 
edited the record in the address book, that propagated down to the list. 
I didn't have to add or delete the record, and I didn't crash the program.


This is all consistent with my previous experience working with lists.

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Re: address book email list causes crash

[Daniel]

Klaus Weber wrote:

Win XP Seamonkey 2.2

Hello,

today I tried several times to change an address in an email list of the
address book. Each time seamonkey crashes before I could change the
address. What to do?

Regards
Klaus


Klaus, it's my understanding that e-mail lists use the e-mail addresses 
in your main list, so to change an e-mail address used on a list, you 
need to delete the e-mail address from the list, change the address in 
your main list and then add this new address from your main list to your 
e-mail list.


Or would just changing the e-mail address in the main list then change 
the address in the list as well?? Could be worth a try!!


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Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405


or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044

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Re: address book email list causes crash

[gNeandr]

On 15.08.2013 10:55, Klaus Weber wrote:

Win XP Seamonkey 2.2

Hello,

today I tried several times to change an address in an email list of the
address book. Each time seamonkey crashes before I could change the
address. What to do?

Regards
Klaus
Try to change things in the contact directly, not in the list .. maybe 
that helps?

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Re: Address Book Phone Numbers

[JohnW-Mpls]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:29:50 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:

>
>A large number of email address records in my address books include phone
>numbers.  Every once in a while, I'd love to be able to initiate a phone
>call by clicking on one of those numbers.  Is there a handy utility for
>doing this?


Neglected to mention - I'm using Windows (Xp & 7).

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Re: Address Book Phone Numbers

[Rob]

JohnW-Mpls  wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:29:50 -0500, JohnW-Mpls  wrote:
>
>>
>>A large number of email address records in my address books include phone
>>numbers.  Every once in a while, I'd love to be able to initiate a phone
>>call by clicking on one of those numbers.  Is there a handy utility for
>>doing this?
>
>
> Neglected to mention - I'm using Windows (Xp & 7).

This kind of tricks usually works only in Internet Explorer and Outlook.

We have a phone system that supports this at work but never got it
to work with SeaMonkey.
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Re: address book fonts

[Felix Miata]

On 2013-04-23 18:40 (GMT+0100) jb composed:


Is it possible to change the font used in the address book, I would prefer
a monospaced font?


In your profiledir in the chrome dir (create if necessary) in userChrome.css 
(create if necessary) try the following (not tested):


#addressbookWindow {font-family: consolas, monospace !important}
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Re: Address book

[Ray_Net]

Ron wrote, On 21/02/2013 20:53:

Ron wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 21/02/2013 03:02, Ron wrote:

V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, 
If I

edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on
the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can 
fix it

by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some
names?


This should have been fixed in 2.15.1 or 2.15.2. And anyway 2.16 should
be out now.

Phil



Just updated to 2.16 and it still does it.


Ok I figured out how to fix it. It is only names with pictures.
If I copy and rename the existing picture in the photo dir in my 
profile, change the picture to default then change it to the picture I

renamed. All is good.

Very easy ... isn't it ? :-) :-)
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Re: Address book

[Ron]

Ron wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 21/02/2013 03:02, Ron wrote:

V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I
edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on
the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it
by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some
names?


This should have been fixed in 2.15.1 or 2.15.2. And anyway 2.16 should
be out now.

Phil



Just updated to 2.16 and it still does it.


Ok I figured out how to fix it. It is only names with pictures.
If I copy and rename the existing picture in the photo dir in my 
profile, change the picture to default then change it to the picture I

renamed. All is good.
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Re: Address book

[Ron]

Philip Chee wrote:

On 21/02/2013 03:02, Ron wrote:

V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I
edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on
the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it
by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some names?


This should have been fixed in 2.15.1 or 2.15.2. And anyway 2.16 should
be out now.

Phil



Just updated to 2.16 and it still does it.
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Re: Address book

[Philip Chee]

On 21/02/2013 03:02, Ron wrote:
> V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
> I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I 
> edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on 
> the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it 
> by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some names?

This should have been fixed in 2.15.1 or 2.15.2. And anyway 2.16 should
be out now.

Phil

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Re: Address Book(s)

[BIll Spikowski]

Jens Hatlak wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
>> "collected addresses."
>>
>> What's the purpose of having two address books?
>>
>> Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
>> an e-mail?
> 
> Take a look at Preferences, Mail & Newsgroups, Addressing. This should 
> answer some of your questions, esp. in combination with the Help button.


I should have looked there first!

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Re: Address Book(s)

[BIll Spikowski]

Michael Gordon wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
>> "collected addresses."
>>
>> What's the purpose of having two address books?
>>
>> Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
>> an e-mail?
>>
>> Is there any advantage to maintaining them separately, as opposed to
>> combining them (so I wouldn't have to search both when looking for an
>> email address)?
>>
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Both address books can be quered when you begin entering an e-mail 
> address into the "To:" field.
> 
> The Personal address book is your accounts personal address book where 
> you can manually enter data, have SM enter the e-mail address from a 
> received message, or create groups of addresses.
> 
> The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  Each 
> time you press the send button to send a message, SM saves the outgoing 
> address in the Collected address book.  This book only contains a 
> listing of outgoing addresses, but you can click on an address in this 
> book and drag it over to your Personal Address Book.  From there you can 
> enter other personal data about the owner of the address.  It saves 
> making typo errors when entering addresses by hand.  Errors like the 
> difference between #1 letters L, l, i, I, O, 0, and other similar 
> combinations.

Thank you -- very helpful!

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Re: Address Book(s)

[cmcadams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:


Michael Gordon wrote:


The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.
Each time you press the send button to send a message, SM saves
the outgoing address in the Collected address book.  This book only
contains a listing of outgoing addresses, but you can click on an
address in this book and drag it over to your Personal Address
Book.


Is there a setting for this? Mine certainly has never saved outgoing
addresses automatically. I manually moved some of my less-used
addresses in Personal to Collected, but those are its only contents.


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Addressing
[X] Add email addresses to my: [pull-down list]


Aha! Thanks. Still learning new things about SM.


While we're on this general subject, does anyone know what "OE
Contacts" signifies? (It's the 3rd address book in SM 2.14.1. . .)


Sounds like you upgraded from Outhouse Distress and imported its address book.


Gotcha. Nope, never used (or even installed) Outhouse Distress.

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Re: Address Book(s)

[Paul B. Gallagher]

cmcadams wrote:


Michael Gordon wrote:


The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.
Each time you press the send button to send a message, SM saves
the outgoing address in the Collected address book.  This book only
contains a listing of outgoing addresses, but you can click on an
address in this book and drag it over to your Personal Address
Book.


Is there a setting for this? Mine certainly has never saved outgoing
addresses automatically. I manually moved some of my less-used
addresses in Personal to Collected, but those are its only contents.


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Addressing
[X] Add email addresses to my: [pull-down list]


While we're on this general subject, does anyone know what "OE
Contacts" signifies? (It's the 3rd address book in SM 2.14.1. . .)


Sounds like you upgraded from Outhouse Distress and imported its address 
book.


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Re: Address Book(s)

[cmcadams]

Michael Gordon wrote:


The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  Each time 
you
press the send button to send a message, SM saves the outgoing address in the
Collected address book.  This book only contains a listing of outgoing 
addresses, but
you can click on an address in this book and drag it over to your Personal 
Address
Book.


Is there a setting for this? Mine certainly has never saved outgoing addresses 
automatically. I manually moved some of my less-used addresses in Personal to 
Collected, but those are its only contents.




While we're on this general subject, does anyone know what "OE Contacts" signifies? 
(It's the 3rd address book in SM 2.14.1. . .)


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Re: Address Book(s)

[Jens Hatlak]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
"collected addresses."

What's the purpose of having two address books?

Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
an e-mail?


Take a look at Preferences, Mail & Newsgroups, Addressing. This should 
answer some of your questions, esp. in combination with the Help button.


HTH

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Re: Address Book(s)

[Michael Gordon]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I see that I have two address books, "personal address book" and
"collected addresses."

What's the purpose of having two address books?

Which address book is queried when I begin to type in an addressee for
an e-mail?

Is there any advantage to maintaining them separately, as opposed to
combining them (so I wouldn't have to search both when looking for an
email address)?



Bill,

Both address books can be quered when you begin entering an e-mail 
address into the "To:" field.


The Personal address book is your accounts personal address book where 
you can manually enter data, have SM enter the e-mail address from a 
received message, or create groups of addresses.


The Collected address book is unique to SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.  Each 
time you press the send button to send a message, SM saves the outgoing 
address in the Collected address book.  This book only contains a 
listing of outgoing addresses, but you can click on an address in this 
book and drag it over to your Personal Address Book.  From there you can 
enter other personal data about the owner of the address.  It saves 
making typo errors when entering addresses by hand.  Errors like the 
difference between #1 letters L, l, i, I, O, 0, and other similar 
combinations.


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Re: Address book

[Jens Hatlak]

d...@clara.co.uk wrote:

Since moving to Sea Monkey 2.14 I have found a problem accessing
personal address book. Having selected 'compose' and then address no
problem - I see full address book and can select addressee. If
however having exited address book , typed email and then wish to add
a further addressee the address book appears empty.


Just filed a bug:


(Feel free to ignore the follow-up for non-technical discussions.)

Greetings,

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Re: Address book

[Ed Mullen]

d...@clara.co.uk wrote:

Since moving to Sea Monkey 2.14 I have found a problem accessing personal 
address book. Having selected 'compose' and then address no problem - I see 
full address book and can select addressee. If however having exited address 
book , typed email and then wish to add a further addressee the address book 
appears empty.

Can anyone help please?



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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Gabriel]

On 24/10/12 08.04, Justin Wood (Callek) ha scritto:

[cut]


Hey Guys,

I just wanted to chime in and say "I hear you" the address book issue
impact was under-estimated by me, and we will be building and releasing
a .2 version for this fix, there are some other changes that will roll
in with this, all of them equally beneficial [if not equally visible]

I don't have a concrete ETA on the release yet, but I can say it will be
out within the week.



THANK YOU :)
I downloaded SM 2.14b1 (OSX) and IT WORKS NOW !

Gabriel

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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Daniel]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 22/10/2012 13:05:

Ray_Net wrote:





I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book
entry dissappeared after closing SM.


Ray, what seems to be happening, in SM 2.13 and 2,13.1, is if you have
a mailing list *anywhere* in your addressbook, you cannot save any
amendments or additions to your addressbook.

You do not need to be doing anything to the mailing list or any of the
addresses in the mailing list, just as long as you have a mailing list
somewhere in your addressbook.

It seems that a fix has been provided, it's now just a matter of when
the fix will be included!!



Hey Guys,

I just wanted to chime in and say "I hear you" the address book issue
impact was under-estimated by me, and we will be building and releasing
a .2 version for this fix, there are some other changes that will roll
in with this, all of them equally beneficial [if not equally visible]

I don't have a concrete ETA on the release yet, but I can say it will be
out within the week.

Thanks,


Hey, Callek, no worries from meas I've typed I'm still on 2.12.1, so 
haven't even been updating to what's already available!!


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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 22/10/2012 13:05:

Ray_Net wrote:





I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book
entry dissappeared after closing SM.


Ray, what seems to be happening, in SM 2.13 and 2,13.1, is if you have
a mailing list *anywhere* in your addressbook, you cannot save any
amendments or additions to your addressbook.

You do not need to be doing anything to the mailing list or any of the
addresses in the mailing list, just as long as you have a mailing list
somewhere in your addressbook.

It seems that a fix has been provided, it's now just a matter of when
the fix will be included!!



Hey Guys,

I just wanted to chime in and say "I hear you" the address book issue 
impact was under-estimated by me, and we will be building and releasing 
a .2 version for this fix, there are some other changes that will roll 
in with this, all of them equally beneficial [if not equally visible]


I don't have a concrete ETA on the release yet, but I can say it will be 
out within the week.


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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 22/10/2012 13:05:

Ray_Net wrote:





I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book
entry dissappeared after closing SM.


Ray, what seems to be happening, in SM 2.13 and 2,13.1, is if you have
a mailing list *anywhere* in your addressbook, you cannot save any
amendments or additions to your addressbook.

You do not need to be doing anything to the mailing list or any of the
addresses in the mailing list, just as long as you have a mailing list
somewhere in your addressbook.

It seems that a fix has been provided, it's now just a matter of when
the fix will be included!!


Yes i have understood, i have the same problem in 2.12.1 because i have
also a maling list.
what i said is when trying to modify an adress (not in the mailing list)
it looks working, but when i quit SM and restart it, the modified adress
vanished - pouf ! ! Gone !!


Ray, I also am on SM 2.12.1

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) 
Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705


and I've just added two e-mail addresses to my addressbook and it worked 
fine. I than added those two e-mail addresses to one of my lists and 
that also worked!!


I notice you are on Windows whereas I'm on Linux . maybe that makes 
a difference!!


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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote, On 22/10/2012 13:05:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 21/10/2012 15:51:

On 10/21/2012 09:34 AM, denewton wrote:

Hello,
We can't save any modification of one address card from a adresse 
book :

the OK key isn't active.
Sinserly
Bertrand
ps I run with Windows XP



Do you have any mailing lists? See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801615


I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book
entry dissappeared after closing SM.


Ray, what seems to be happening, in SM 2.13 and 2,13.1, is if you have 
a mailing list *anywhere* in your addressbook, you cannot save any 
amendments or additions to your addressbook.


You do not need to be doing anything to the mailing list or any of the 
addresses in the mailing list, just as long as you have a mailing list 
somewhere in your addressbook.


It seems that a fix has been provided, it's now just a matter of when 
the fix will be included!!


Yes i have understood, i have the same problem in 2.12.1 because i have 
also a maling list.
what i said is when trying to modify an adress (not in the mailing list) 
it looks working, but when i quit SM and restart it, the modified adress 
vanished - pouf ! ! Gone !!

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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS wrote, On 21/10/2012 15:51:

On 10/21/2012 09:34 AM, denewton wrote:

Hello,
We can't save any modification of one address card from a adresse book :
the OK key isn't active.
Sinserly
Bertrand
ps I run with Windows XP



Do you have any mailing lists? See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801615


I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book
entry dissappeared after closing SM.


Ray, what seems to be happening, in SM 2.13 and 2,13.1, is if you have a 
mailing list *anywhere* in your addressbook, you cannot save any 
amendments or additions to your addressbook.


You do not need to be doing anything to the mailing list or any of the 
addresses in the mailing list, just as long as you have a mailing list 
somewhere in your addressbook.


It seems that a fix has been provided, it's now just a matter of when 
the fix will be included!!


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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[Ray_Net]

WaltS wrote, On 21/10/2012 15:51:

On 10/21/2012 09:34 AM, denewton wrote:

Hello,
We can't save any modification of one address card from a adresse book :
the OK key isn't active.
Sinserly
Bertrand
ps I run with Windows XP



Do you have any mailing lists? See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801615


I have a mailing list just one without need.
But my problem is the same with another one - the modified adress book 
entry dissappeared after closing SM.

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Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1

[WaltS]

On 10/21/2012 09:34 AM, denewton wrote:

Hello,
We can't save any modification of one address card from a adresse book :
the OK key isn't active.
Sinserly
Bertrand
ps I run with Windows XP



Do you have any mailing lists? See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801615

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Re: Address Book Mailing List Malfunction

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Re: Address Book

[W3BNR]

On 8/8/2011 5:04 PM Jens Hatlak submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

Just noticed that after creating and saving a list, I cannot remove the
first entry and save the list. I can however add a new address or one
that already exists in the list to the blank line at the top and then
save. I don't see any bug report on this.


AFAICS, clicking OK twice works. The list of address book entries does not
update correctly, though. If no bugs exist for any of those, please file them. I
can see the same with current trunk.


Also is there any means to sort the entries in the list other than doing
it manually while entering the addresses?


No. Unfortunately the file format (mork) is not edit-friendly either.

HTH

Jens



Reported as Bug 677406

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Re: Address Book

[Jens Hatlak]

W3BNR wrote:

Just noticed that after creating and saving a list, I cannot remove the
first entry and save the list. I can however add a new address or one
that already exists in the list to the blank line at the top and then
save. I don't see any bug report on this.


AFAICS, clicking OK twice works. The list of address book entries does 
not update correctly, though. If no bugs exist for any of those, please 
file them. I can see the same with current trunk.



Also is there any means to sort the entries in the list other than doing
it manually while entering the addresses?


No. Unfortunately the file format (mork) is not edit-friendly either.

HTH

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of
your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it
as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an
email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list,
(call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to
the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name 
there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm
addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a
problem.


When i select "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:"
button
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname
and
i can click on it.
If a try to follow your consel:
i select "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring
me in
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:"
button.


Ray, try:-
1. Select "Compose" for a new mail
2. In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and your addressbook is
displayed so you can select the addresses you want.
3. Select (single click) an address.
4. Then click on "Bcc:"
5. Click on more addresses if you wish.
6. When you've finished selecting addresses, "o.k" your way out to be
left with your email

Give that a try.


Thats ok for a single mailadresse - repeated for each chosen mailadress
- BUT
1. Only individual mail-adress are accessible mailing list is not show.
2. There is no way of doing this for mailing-list adress ... i said that
because you wrote:
Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


And, Ray, did you give it a go??? With-in your Addressbook, make a list
of 2 email addresses, 5 email addresses, 10 email addresses, whatever,
to the list, then close the list, select the list in your Addressbook,
then click "Bcc:"

As far as I know, this would cause the one e-mail to be sent to each
address in the list, but, because it was doing using "Bcc:" they will
not get all the addresses.



Correct ... the list is accessible when going thru :
 > In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and
 > your addressbook is displayed so you can select
 > the addresses you want.

I have not see it in my last try .. now i see it .. i shloud change my
glasses . Thanks for the explanaions and apologies with my poor view :-)


All's well that ends with a pair of glasses!!

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[Daniel]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

And, Ray, did you give it a go??? With-in your Addressbook, make a list
of 2 email addresses, 5 email addresses, 10 email addresses, whatever,
to the list, then close the list, select the list in your Addressbook,
then click "Bcc:"

As far as I know, this would cause the one e-mail to be sent to each
address in the list, but, because it was doing using "Bcc:" they will
not get all the addresses.

Daniel


If this is still about the original post here is the apparent
failure in communication ...

We are all in agreement that if we stuff several E-mail addresses
into a sub-book/sub-folder and then select that sub-book/sub-folder
as the target "address" (really multiple addresses), and then we
change the field to "BCC" that everyone in that sub-book/sub-folder
will receive a private E-mail and not be able to see any of the
others.

That is a closed issue.

The original question has remained unaddressed.

Can the sub-book/sub-folder be flagged "BCC" in the address book
so that whenever it is selected it is automatically only sent as
"BCC"?

If not, why not, please?



Beyond my knowledge, but if I had to guess, I would guess not!

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[d...@kd4e.com]

And, Ray, did you give it a go??? With-in your Addressbook, make a list
of 2 email addresses, 5 email addresses, 10 email addresses, whatever,
to the list, then close the list, select the list in your Addressbook,
then click "Bcc:"

As far as I know, this would cause the one e-mail to be sent to each
address in the list, but, because it was doing using "Bcc:" they will
not get all the addresses.

Daniel


If this is still about the original post here is the apparent
failure in communication ...

We are all in agreement that if we stuff several E-mail addresses
into a sub-book/sub-folder and then select that sub-book/sub-folder
as the target "address" (really multiple addresses), and then we
change the field to "BCC" that everyone in that sub-book/sub-folder
will receive a private E-mail and not be able to see any of the
others.

That is a closed issue.

The original question has remained unaddressed.

Can the sub-book/sub-folder be flagged "BCC" in the address book
so that whenever it is selected it is automatically only sent as
"BCC"?

If not, why not, please?

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an
email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list,
(call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to
the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name 
there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm
addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a
problem.


When i select "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:" button
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname
and
i can click on it.
If a try to follow your consel:
i select "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring me in
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:"
button.


Ray, try:-
1. Select "Compose" for a new mail
2. In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and your addressbook is
displayed so you can select the addresses you want.
3. Select (single click) an address.
4. Then click on "Bcc:"
5. Click on more addresses if you wish.
6. When you've finished selecting addresses, "o.k" your way out to be
left with your email

Give that a try.


Thats ok for a single mailadresse - repeated for each chosen mailadress
- BUT
1. Only individual mail-adress are accessible mailing list is not show.
2. There is no way of doing this for mailing-list adress ... i said that
because you wrote:
Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


And, Ray, did you give it a go??? With-in your Addressbook, make a list
of 2 email addresses, 5 email addresses, 10 email addresses, whatever,
to the list, then close the list, select the list in your Addressbook,
then click "Bcc:"

As far as I know, this would cause the one e-mail to be sent to each
address in the list, but, because it was doing using "Bcc:" they will
not get all the addresses.



Correct ... the list is accessible when going thru :
> In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and
> your addressbook is displayed so you can select
> the addresses you want.

I have not see it in my last try .. now i see it .. i shloud change my 
glasses . Thanks for the explanaions and apologies with my poor view :-)

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list,
(call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to
the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name 
there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm
addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a
problem.


When i select "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:" button
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname and
i can click on it.
If a try to follow your consel:
i select "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring me in
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:"
button.


Ray, try:-
1. Select "Compose" for a new mail
2. In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and your addressbook is
displayed so you can select the addresses you want.
3. Select (single click) an address.
4. Then click on "Bcc:"
5. Click on more addresses if you wish.
6. When you've finished selecting addresses, "o.k" your way out to be
left with your email

Give that a try.


Thats ok for a single mailadresse - repeated for each chosen mailadress
- BUT
1. Only individual mail-adress are accessible mailing list is not show.
2. There is no way of doing this for mailing-list adress ... i said that
because you wrote:
Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


And, Ray, did you give it a go??? With-in your Addressbook, make a list 
of 2 email addresses, 5 email addresses, 10 email addresses, whatever, 
to the list, then close the list, select the list in your Addressbook, 
then click "Bcc:"


As far as I know, this would cause the one e-mail to be sent to each 
address in the list, but, because it was doing using "Bcc:" they will 
not get all the addresses.


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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list,
(call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to
the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name  there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a problem.


When i select "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:" button
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname and
i can click on it.
If a try to follow your consel:
i select "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring me in
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:" button.


Ray, try:-
1. Select "Compose" for a new mail
2. In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and your addressbook is
displayed so you can select the addresses you want.
3. Select (single click) an address.
4. Then click on "Bcc:"
5. Click on more addresses if you wish.
6. When you've finished selecting addresses, "o.k" your way out to be
left with your email

Give that a try.

Thats ok for a single mailadresse - repeated for each chosen mailadress 
- BUT

1. Only individual mail-adress are accessible mailing list is not show.
2. There is no way of doing this for mailing-list adress ... i said that 
because you wrote:

Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..
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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name  there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a problem.


When i select "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:" button
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname and
i can click on it.
If a try to follow your consel:
i select "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring me in
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:" button.


Ray, try:-
1. Select "Compose" for a new mail
2. In the e-mail header, click on "Address", and your addressbook is 
displayed so you can select the addresses you want.

3. Select (single click) an address.
4. Then click on "Bcc:"
5. Click on more addresses if you wish.
6. When you've finished selecting addresses, "o.k" your way out to be 
left with your email


Give that a try.

Daniel

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name  there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm addressing
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a problem.

When i select  "Compose" for a new mail, i can click on the "To:" button 
and change it to "Bcc" then in the zoen i begin to type the listname and 
i can click on it.

If a try to follow your consel:
i select  "Compose" for a new mail...
then i click on "Windows" and i choice "Adress book" - this bring me in 
the adress book where i can single click on it's name in the 
addressbook, buth there is no way of clicking on an absent "Bcc:" button.


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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 > Daniel wrote:

as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to your
group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call it
"Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


This is what I have been doing.


Now create your email content, noting that some ISP's require that
there MUST be a "To:" address (I normally stick my own there, so the
recipients get my address twice).


When I do that it eventually gets my E-mail flagged as spam --
I had to stop putting my E-mail in the TO: field.

Sending "BCC:" only has been working fine.

I do not want everybody getting everybody's addresses - that is
the reason to want to force "BCC:" on the sub-list of addresses,
so that can never happen.



So you can receive emails adressed to you from anyone else, but as soon 
as you address an email to yourself, your ISP spit the dummy at you!! 
weird!!



I have done enough scripting in the past to beleve that this is
a trivial task -- and if I remembered a whit of code I'd try it
myself -- but I lack the skills and time to do so.

The value-added appears both common and obvious - I don't know
why it is not an option in the Address Book.



but I believe it is an option, Doc!!

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name  there
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...


Don't know what you're doing wrong, Ray, in my case, when I'm addressing 
the email, I can select the list and then select Bcc: without a problem.


Daniel
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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[d...@kd4e.com]

> Daniel wrote:

as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to your
group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call it
"Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
 list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


This is what I have been doing.


Now create your email content, noting that some ISP's require that
there MUST be a "To:" address (I normally stick my own there, so the
 recipients get my address twice).


When I do that it eventually gets my E-mail flagged as spam --
I had to stop putting my E-mail in the TO: field.

Sending "BCC:" only has been working fine.

I do not want everybody getting everybody's addresses - that is
the reason to want to force "BCC:" on the sub-list of addresses,
so that can never happen.

I have done enough scripting in the past to beleve that this is
a trivial task -- and if I remembered a whit of code I'd try it
myself -- but I lack the skills and time to do so.

The value-added appears both common and obvious - I don't know
why it is not an option in the Address Book.

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..



When i am in the adress book and when i click on a list name  there 
is no "Bcc:" to click on ...

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time. (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!



Doc, as an experiment, the next time you need to send out an email to 
your group, open the Addressbook in SeaMonkey, create a new list, (call 
it "Newsletter-1" or whatever), add the required email addresses to the 
list. Then close the list, and single click on it's name in the 
addressbook, then click on "Bcc:" and click o.k..


Now create your email content, noting that some ISP's require that there 
MUST be a "To:" address (I normally stick my own there, so the 
recipients get my address twice).


Hopefully, this will do what you want..at worst, everybody will 
still get everybodies addresses, so you would be no worse off!!


Daniel
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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[d...@kd4e.com]

Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.

Daniel



Whenever I add "Sub-Book", or the actual name of the subset
from my larger Address Book, I then click on "BCC:".

Is that what you mean?

If you mean that I have to manually type "Bcc:Sub-Book" every
time I send to "Sub-Book" that would add a step.

When I use "Sub-Book" I only have to type "Su" and the rest
is filled from the Address Book index of listings, saving me
time.  (I am a poor typist, so everything typed for me is both
quicker and more accurate.)

If you mean that I could rename "Sub-Book" to "Bcc:Sub-Book"
and when I click on that as one choice of recipients that it
would send the contents Private, that would be a neat solution!

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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 > Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Is there any way to force a specific sub-book of addresses
to always be sent "BCC:"?



I don't know an answer to your question, but one possible way
around this is to make a list, containing all your required email
addresses, then when you need to send, bcc, to all these people, select
the list name and then click on BCC.

This should, I hope, when you press the send button, send out individual
emails to each of those in the list.

Give it a try, and report back, Doc.


That is what I am doing - what I need is for the BCC to be "forced"
for the special list (I called it a Sub-Book) so that it *never*
gets sent any other way.

I cannot believe that this is an unusual need - I'm guessing most
of us have lists of people we want to group-mail without disclosing
all of those E-mail addressess to everyone else.




Just to be perfectly clear, doc, when you entered the name of your 
"Sub-Book" in the address field of the e-mail, you entered it as a 
"Bcc:Sub-Book", right.


Daniel
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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[d...@kd4e.com]

> Daniel wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Is there any way to force a specific sub-book of addresses
to always be sent "BCC:"?



I don't know an answer to your question, but one possible way
around this is to make a list, containing all your required email
addresses, then when you need to send, bcc, to all these people, select
the list name and then click on BCC.

This should, I hope, when you press the send button, send out individual
emails to each of those in the list.

Give it a try, and report back, Doc.


That is what I am doing - what I need is for the BCC to be "forced"
for the special list (I called it a Sub-Book) so that it *never*
gets sent any other way.

I cannot believe that this is an unusual need - I'm guessing most
of us have lists of people we want to group-mail without disclosing
all of those E-mail addressess to everyone else.


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Re: Address Book - Sub-Book Properties

[Daniel]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Is there any way to force a specific sub-book of addresses
to always be sent "BCC:"?



Doc, I don't know an answer to your question, but one possible way 
around this is to make a list, containing all your required email 
addresses, then when you need to send, bcc, to all these people, select 
the list name and then click on BCC.


This should, I hope, when you press the send button, send out individual 
emails to each of those in the list.


Give it a try, and report back, Doc.
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Re: Address book combine?

[Bill Davidsen]

Beverly Howard wrote:

 >> hack <<

Curious... what's the hack?

Export the data, read with perl, eliminate true dups, combine matching (name and 
email or name and phone) entries with no non-matching entries, flag conflicts, 
output in abook format. By combining I catch the case where a dup because 
entries with a cell number or a note, custom field, etc.



 >> combine two or more address books, eliminate duplicates, and note
possible conflicts? <<

I'm looking forward to seeing if there is a good mozilla solution for
this as doing what you need has never been easy.


Yes, it's a unix-like OS solution, and not intuitive.


That said, I converted my and my wife's contacts lists (each with about
1,000 entries) to google contacts since they offer free exchange sync
and, as part of the conversion I was very impressed with google contacts
duplicate entry processing.

I make that statement from the perspective of a database programmer who
worked with the frequent need to dedupe huge address lists.

If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to csv
format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the google
contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.


That may be the best solution for general use.

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Re: Address book combine?

[Beverly Howard]

>> I can create a bunch of variables in the .csv file and then Pegasus 
will replace the variable with whatever is in the .csv file. <<


Great information... thanks.

Beverly Howard

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Re: Address book combine?

[Arnie Goetchius]

Beverly Howard wrote:

 >> FoxPro <<

There are a number of ways to skin this cat...

For example "Total on email to NODUPE" is a new one for me... will have
to investigate that command further as it sounds interesting ;-)

in addition to Arnie's steps, some other possibilities.

set unique on
Index on upper(email) to email

The unique will index only the first occurrence of each email set, so,
when the index is set, all dupes will be hidden.


That will certainly do the job. I use TOTAL so I know how many 
duplicates there were for each address. If you set unique on, you don't 
get a count by individual email.


Since email addresses are not necessarily uppercase, the index statement
will take that into consideration...

then, additional problems arise... seamonkey's address book has two
email fields, so, the dupes may be in different fields.

Add to that that later duplicate entries may have additional or more
valid information, and the potential for data loss arises.


Generally, I don't use the Address book to send emails unless it is just 
people in my neighborhood. I maintain a database of about 16,000 for my 
high school alums. There is only one record for each alum but there are 
cases where husband and wife are both alums and are using the same 
email. The same email address will get two emails, one addressed to the 
husband and one addressed to the wife.


I use Foxpro to generate a .csv file and then send any message using 
Pegasus to create the message and import the .csv file. Because Pegasus 
has a merge function, I can create a bunch of variables in the .csv file 
and then Pegasus will replace the variable with whatever is in the .csv 
file. Especially useful when I'm trying to verify name, address, 
telephone, email, etc for each record in the database. Just can't send 
more than 400-500 at a time.




Even having deduped many millions of records during my programming life,
I hate the process since there are so many ways for it to bite back, so,
was glad to discover that someone at google seems to have found a better
way.

Beverly Howard




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Re: Address book combine?

[Beverly Howard]

>> FoxPro <<

There are a number of ways to skin this cat...

For example "Total on email to NODUPE" is a new one for me... will have 
to investigate that command further as it sounds interesting ;-)


in addition to Arnie's steps, some other possibilities.

set unique on
Index on upper(email) to email

The unique will index only the first occurrence of each email set, so, 
when the index is set, all dupes will be hidden.


Since email addresses are not necessarily uppercase, the index statement 
will take that into consideration...


...then,  additional problems arise... seamonkey's address book has two 
email fields, so, the dupes may be in different fields.


Add to that that later duplicate entries may have additional or more 
valid information, and the potential for data loss arises.


Even having deduped many millions of records during my programming life, 
I hate the process since there are so many ways for it to bite back, so, 
was glad to discover that someone at google seems to have found a better 
way.


Beverly Howard


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Re: Address book combine?

[Philip Chee]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:56:59 -0400, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

> It still works in the current incarnation of dbase+ that I use which is 
> FoxPro.

The current incarnation of dbase+ is dbase:


There are several other products that implement the xBase language
including Foxpro.


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Re: Address book combine?

[Arnie Goetchius]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

I remember doing this in dBase+ back in the 80's, as I recall it
required a macro.

Could this be done in something like OpenOffice with a macro?



If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to
csv format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the
google contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.

Beverly Howard



It still works in the current incarnation of dbase+ that I use which is 
FoxPro.


1. create a database called ADDRESS with fields of "NAME", "EMAIL" and 
"COUNT"
2. Import from various address book .csv files the variables "NAME" and 
"EMAIL" into database ADDRESS

3. use ADDRESS
4. Replace all count with 1
5. Index on email to email
6. set orde to email
7. Total on email to NODUPE
8. Use NODUPE
9. list name,email,count

A single instance of each email will be shown in the file NODUPE. The 
number of occurrences for each email will be shown in the variable COUNT 
which will usually be 1


10. copy to NODUPECSV type delimited with ,

11. import NODUPECSV into your mailer's address book.

I tried to find a way to do this in OpenOffice 3.2 but did not see an 
easy way to do it.


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Re: Address book combine?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Beverly Howard wrote:


 >> hack <<

Curious... what's the hack?

 >> combine two or more address books, eliminate duplicates, and note
possible conflicts? <<

I'm looking forward to seeing if there is a good mozilla solution for
this as doing what you need has never been easy.

That said, I converted my and my wife's contacts lists (each with about
1,000 entries) to google contacts since they offer free exchange sync
and, as part of the conversion I was very impressed with google contacts
duplicate entry processing.

I make that statement from the perspective of a database programmer who
worked with the frequent need to dedupe huge address lists.

If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to csv
format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the google
contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.


Sounds easy. If I didn't know about that, here's what I'd've done:

Create an Access table, specifying that the email address field must be 
unique ("no duplicates"). Take and paste/append each of my lists into 
that table. When it detects a dupe, Access will refuse to append a 
record, and it will put the failed records in a table called "Paste 
Errors" where the user can review them.


When done, export as CSV and import back into your mail program (as a 
new address book for safety). When you're satisfied that all is well, 
empty out the old address book and drag/drop the contents of the new one 
to your personal address book.


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[d...@kd4e.com]

I remember doing this in dBase+ back in the 80's, as I recall it
required a macro.

Could this be done in something like OpenOffice with a macro?



If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to
csv format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the
google contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.

Beverly Howard



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Re: Address book combine?

[Beverly Howard]

>> hack <<

Curious... what's the hack?

>> combine two or more address books, eliminate duplicates, and note 
possible conflicts? <<


I'm looking forward to seeing if there is a good mozilla solution for 
this as doing what you need has never been easy.


That said, I converted my and my wife's contacts lists (each with about 
 1,000 entries) to google contacts since they offer free exchange sync 
and, as part of the conversion I was very impressed with google contacts 
duplicate entry processing.


I make that statement from the perspective of a database programmer who 
worked with the frequent need to dedupe huge address lists.


If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to csv 
format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the google 
contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.


Beverly Howard



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Re: Address book: more than two e-mails?

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 22/5/2010 09:35, Rick Merrill told the world:

> Why isn't a mailing list adequate? Am I missing something?
> 

Yes, you are. My brother has three e-mails; why should I make a *mailing
list* for him? I just want to have the three of them available on the
autofill list without needing to open a second address book entry. I
have several such cases in my address book.

This is one of the (very few) points Mozilla is worse than the Microsoft
solutions. The Windows Address Book (used by -- ugh -- Outlook Express)
allows essentially unlimited e-mails per entry.

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Re: Address book: more than two e-mails?

[Rick Merrill]

MCBastos wrote:

The address book has two e-mail entries: one for "email" and one for
"additional email" (there's also one for "screen name", which I'm not
sure if it's of any use in these post-online service times). If I try to
insert more than one e-mail in the "additional email," Seamonkey does
not seem to be able to tell them apart -- and in fact makes a bit of a
mess of the message heading. I tried different separators with the same
result.

Is there any way to insert more than one e-mail address in an address
book entry so that Seamonkey behaves as expected?


Why isn't a mailing list adequate? Am I missing something?

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Re: Address book: more than two e-mails?

[Jens Hatlak]

MCBastos wrote:

Is there any way to insert more than one e-mail address in an address
book entry so that Seamonkey behaves as expected?


No. That's bug 118665.


Also see


Greetings,

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Re: Address book + Get rid of SM email or I et rid of browser!

[Info WG]

Firefox does not
have an address book, in fact Firefox has no email 
features. 

If you are accessing email through Firefox, any email features
 will be part of the email service that you are using and not Firefox. 
You need to check with the email service or application for the email
service.

JR

From: Ray_Net 
To: 
Date: 15/04/10 16:41:17
Subject: Re: Get rid of SM email or I et rid of browser!

Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>
>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses
the same
>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import
it, just
>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
similar)
>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address
Book.
>>>
>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>
> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it
in
> Firefox?
>
I have used the same word ..but they certainly speaked about bookmark ?

! isn't it



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OT Lists (was:- Re: Address book now accused of hijack)

[Daniel]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/6/2010 6:28 AM, FDVS wrote:





Oh, you're using an e-mail list. Probably you replied to the original
mail, then just changed the subject line, etc.?

I don't know how the mail lists work, but I would guess that when you
reply, it keeps the linkage between the message you replied to and
your message for threading purposes.

Instead, you should just create a brand new e-mail message. Then it
won't attempt to thread it with the other user's message.

Alternatively, you can use an actual news reader, like SeaMonkey.
Create a news account to the server news.mozilla.org then subscribe
to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.


Good to see it's not just me that's getting caught on these Lists and 
other sources!


Daniel

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Re: Address Book question

[FDVS]

-So what do you mean it didn't work? Did you install it into the
-Application profile rather than the user profile?
I clicked on download, followed the instructions, rebooted as requested 
and cannot see the program in Program Files or Add/Remove Programs. 
Tried it twice.


-Are you running on a UNIX system?
No.



-I've installed AdBlock Plus 1.1.3 without any problem in SeaMonkey 2.0.
-Because root installation of extensions is effectively hosed by the
-Addons Manager, I installed it in each of my four profiles.  When I
-upgraded SeaMonkey from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3, I did not have to reinstall
-Adblock Plus.
-- David E. Ross

Fraid' that is beyond me, guess I will live with it. Tks for trying.
Dave



xx
PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the
top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
xxx


I don't use mailing lists when there is a news server available. I don't
understand why anyone would, but that's just me. If you're having problems
with the mailing list, perhaps you should try using a news reader instead?
After all, SeaMonkey provides an integrated news reader, in the very same
application that you're using to read e-mail.
Just create a new account for news (not e-mail) and point it at 
news.mozilla.org,
then subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


I don't have any idea what a newserv is.  I like things very simple so I 
am sticking to email as the main form of communication.

thanks
Dave
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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 10:32 AM, FDVS wrote:
> WinXP Pro SP3, not sure what an LDAP is so I probably don't use.  When I 
> installed SM last week I had it import all my addresses from Netscape, 
> into its address book.
> 
> version 2.0.3
> * Copyright © 1998-2010 by contributors to the Mozilla Project.
> * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
> rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I'll let someone else try to help you with
that.

> 
> xx
> PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the 
> top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> 
> Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
> xxx

I don't use mailing lists when there is a news server available. I don't
understand why anyone would, but that's just me. If you're having problems
with the mailing list, perhaps you should try using a news reader instead?
After all, SeaMonkey provides an integrated news reader, in the very same
application that you're using to read e-mail.

Just create a new account for news (not e-mail) and point it at 
news.mozilla.org,
then subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


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Re: Address Book question

[FDVS]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/6/2010 8:26 AM, FDVS wrote:

It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best
friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an
email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.

In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another
friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or
his email address.

So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff.
   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I
would like to find out why and fix it!

Thanks!
Dave


What version of SeaMonkey are you running? On what platform? What
type of address book (built-in or LDAP or other)?

I'm running SM 1.1.16 on Windows/XP SP3, and I don't have that problem.
However, I'm using an LDAP server for my address book, so perhaps this
is just a problem with the built-in address book?



WinXP Pro SP3, not sure what an LDAP is so I probably don't use.  When I 
installed SM last week I had it import all my addresses from Netscape, 
into its address book.


version 2.0.3
* Copyright © 1998-2010 by contributors to the Mozilla Project.
* Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3


xx
PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the 
top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:

support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
xxx
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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 8:26 AM, FDVS wrote:
> It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
> friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
> email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.
> 
> In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
> friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
> his email address.
> 
> So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
>   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
> would like to find out why and fix it!
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave

What version of SeaMonkey are you running? On what platform? What
type of address book (built-in or LDAP or other)?

I'm running SM 1.1.16 on Windows/XP SP3, and I don't have that problem.
However, I'm using an LDAP server for my address book, so perhaps this
is just a problem with the built-in address book?

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Re: Address book now accused of hijack

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 6:28 AM, FDVS wrote:
>> You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
>> hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
>> visibility to more people that may be able to help you.
> 
> 
> I am going to need some help here, I have no idea what you are talking 
> about.
> 
> I was having a new problem, so I started a blank email to the group.  I 
> used my own title, I posted only my question.  I did not quote anyone 
> when I posted.
> 
> I just looked back at my sent message to confirm all that I am saying.
> 
> I also viewed my message, as it arrived at my inboxsame thing.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> Dave

Oh, you're using an e-mail list. Probably you replied to the original
mail, then just changed the subject line, etc.?

I don't know how the mail lists work, but I would guess that when you
reply, it keeps the linkage between the message you replied to and
your message for threading purposes.

Instead, you should just create a brand new e-mail message. Then it
won't attempt to thread it with the other user's message.

Alternatively, you can use an actual news reader, like SeaMonkey.
Create a news account to the server news.mozilla.org then subscribe
to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.
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Re: Address book now accused of hijack

[FDVS]

You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
visibility to more people that may be able to help you.



I am going to need some help here, I have no idea what you are talking 
about.


I was having a new problem, so I started a blank email to the group.  I 
used my own title, I posted only my question.  I did not quote anyone 
when I posted.


I just looked back at my sent message to confirm all that I am saying.

I also viewed my message, as it arrived at my inboxsame thing.


Thank you.
Dave
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Re: Address book problems

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/5/2010 6:48 PM, FDVS wrote:
> It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
> friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
> email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.
> 
> In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
> friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
> his email address.
> 
> So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
>   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
> would like to find out why and fix it!
> 
> Thanks!

You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
visibility to more people that may be able to help you.

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