t-and-f: SID SINK & BILL SCOBEY
Sink and Scobey are apparently still competing... just not necessarily on the track or roads. I continue to bump into them as regular bidders on track & field memorabilia items on E-bay. Scobey, amazingly, has made 342 successful transactions...must have quite the collection indeed! -MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: KRUMMENACKER & JACOBS (WAS BROE RECORD)
In addition to Broe's record as per Martin Dixon's post, Jacobs and Krummenacker made history as well...also, check out the mile results!! great site/results attached: http://www.globalathletics.com/adidasgames/visited.html best, Mike Fanelli
t-and-f: REMEMBER HERB WASHINGTON??
Remember sprinter Herb Washington?? Attached is a "where they are now" article from the SF Chronicle. best, Mike Fanelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This article was sent to you by someone who found it on SF Gate. The original article can be found on SFGate.com here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/01/13 /SP159052.DTL -- Sunday, January 13, 2002 (SF Chronicle) WHERE ARE THEY NOW/Herb Washington/From fast to fast food/A's 'designated runner' succeeds in business Jorge L. Ortiz, Chronicle Staff Writer There's something odd about Herb Washington being a member of the Major League Baseball Players Alumni Association. Was he ever really a baseball player? Washington, the "designated runner" owner Charlie Finley foisted on his world champion A's in 1974, never had a plate appearance in the majors, never pitched or played the field. Yet he owns a World Series ring and unquestionably left his mark on the game as one of Finley's quirkiest ideas. Washington was also smart enough to parlay the earnings from his one-plus baseball seasons into a successful career as a businessman. The former world record-holder in the 50- and 60-yard dashes is the founder and owner of HLW Fastrack, a company that runs 22 McDonald's franchises in Ohio and Western Pennsylvania. Convinced the self-proclaimed "world's fastest human" could help the A's win some games, Finley lured Washington off the track tour with a $45,000 offer, which did not go over well with Oakland players used to haggling with the penurious owner. Washington, who ran track and played football at Michigan State, had not stepped on a diamond since high school, and he took some heat early on as the A's got off to a slow start. But Catfish Hunter came to his defense at a players meeting, and eventually Washington proved his usefulness by stealing 29 bases (in 45 attempts) and scoring 29 runs in '74. However, he got picked off in the A's only World Series loss to the Dodgers. "I don't think (the resentment) was ever totally overcome," Washington said. "But I said it then and I'll say it again: Without a doubt, I earned every dime that I got." In the process, Washington got to rub elbows with some of the greatest baseball players of that era. One time, Chicago White Sox first baseman Dick Allen, a noted horse breeder, felt his ankles while studying his leg structure, much as he would a thoroughbred's. There also was the time when gruff Yankees catcher Thurman Munson told Washington before a game not to dare run on him, or he'd risk getting embarrassed. "Plus, my grandmother could throw you out," Washington recalled Munson telling him. So Washington got the call to run and stole second. In his haste, Munson's throw tailed and had no chance of nabbing him. The next day during batting practice, Washington sidled up to Munson. "So I said, 'Hey Thurman, there's a call for you in the clubhouse,' " Washington recalled. " 'You kidding.' No, no, there's a call in there. It's your grandmother. They're going to bring her up.' " The good times in the majors didn't last long, as the A's concluded Washington was too much of a luxury and waived him a month into the '75 season. He went back to track briefly but his heart wasn't in it, so he took a job as an assistant director of personnel with Michigan Bell before purchasing his first McDonald's franchise in 1981. Now 50 and living in Boardman, Ohio, a suburb of Youngstown, Washington stays abreast of sporting developments. He also follows the sporting exploits of his 16-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter, who evidently inherited his athletic genes. As to the question of whether he was truly a baseball player, Washington believes he could've been eventually, given his speed and athleticism. "I felt like if I had spent the time in baseball that I did in track, I could have played," he said. "I just had not done the kind of training that was necessary to participate at that level." E-mail Jorge L. Ortiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Copyright 2002 SF Chronicle
Re: t-and-f: My miserable Bruce Dern Moment
And, Tom, didn't that race make the cover of the late Browning Ross's "Long Distance Log"? Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Tom Derderian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: t-and-f: My miserable Bruce Dern Moment > It was Rockland California in 1970 while my roomate Bob Deines was winning > the National 50 miler that I, after dropping out at 30 miles leaned against > a car with Bruce Dern who had also dropped out, and grumbled. > Tom, just getting over the shame of the DNF now, Derderian > Greater Boston Track Club > - Original Message - > From: "DANIEL DEYO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in T&F) > > > > Dern was the National 50 mile champ in the late 60's, early 70's. Your > > magazine, Running Times did an article on Dern in the 80's that running > > saved his life. I had the article cut out & saved, but it has been > > misplaced. It told of his high school, collegiate & post collegiate > running > > career. Is there a way to track it down? Is it saved online anywhere? > > > > > > >
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Hey Bob Cooper, Did you write the article that is being discussed in the attached e-mail?? Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: DANIEL DEYO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in T&F) > Dern was the National 50 mile champ in the late 60's, early 70's. Your > magazine, Running Times did an article on Dern in the 80's that running > saved his life. I had the article cut out & saved, but it has been > misplaced. It told of his high school, collegiate & post collegiate running > career. Is there a way to track it down? Is it saved online anywhere? > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:12 AM > Subject: t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in T&F) > > > > > > In a message dated 12/16/01 8:35:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >Bruce Dern went to college at Penn and may have competed on the track > team > > >but it was before my time. > > > > He did in fact compete and was a good half miler, but quit the team his > jr. > > year in a dispute w/ the coach (Ken Doherty? - I think the time frame is > > pre-Tupp, but it's before my time as well) over having to trim his > sideburns. > > > > Incidentally, I recall reading in an interview that his film contracts > > stipulated that he had to have at least one scene in which he was running > > (and I think that's true). IMHO, his movie based on the Dipsea (I think > it's > > titled "Running Free") is one of the Top 10 running flicks ever, partly > b/c > > Dern looks so believable as a runner. If you watch it and don't want to go > > out for a hard 10 mile trail run, you need to check your pulse. > > > > Jim Gerweck > > Running Times > > >
Fw: t-and-f: Famous people/(Bruce Dern)
> The movie being referenced is called "On the Edge." It is based upon the > Dipsea Race, a point-to-point 7.6 mile extremely vertical trail race that, > since 1905 has run from downtown Mill Valley to the Pacific Ocean at Stinson > Beach...via Mt. Tamalpais. > > Garry Bjorklund is in the movie and one of the directors is Roy Kissin. > > > > > Mike Fanelli > "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > (415) 447 - 6254 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.SFabode.com > www.MarinHouseHunting.com > - Original Message - > From: Mcewen, Brian T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:23 AM > Subject: RE: t-and-f: Famous people in T&F (Bruce Dern) > > > > Bruce Dern was a serious runner in HS, don't know what he accomplished (if > > anything) at Penn. He used to run a mile time trial every year on his > > birthday, attempting to beat his HS PR. I read that about 15 years ago. > He > > also starred in a movie about an aging runner competing to win the Dipsea > > Race, a NorCal trail race from the mountains to the ocean. I think this > was > > (is?) a real race (someone will know) held in the Bay Area with a long > > history. > > > > I think he ran a good 880 in HS and something like a 4:48 for a mile. > That > > was his target to beat in the birthday time trial. This was all in a > > feature in Runner magazine a long time ago. > > > > More than you wanted to know, > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Edward Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:32 PM > > To: Johntherunner > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people in T&F > > > > > > Bruce Dern went to college at Penn and may have competed on the track team > > but it was before my time. I remember hearing something about it when when > > of his movies came out during my college days. > > > > Ed Koch > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Johntherunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Johntherunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:40 AM > > Subject: t-and-f: Famous people in T&F > > > > > > >Didn't Bruce Dern run in High School (880 I think) and Jack Lemmon as > well? > > >I know Dern competed in Ultramarathons in the early 70's. > > > > > >John the crazy alaskan runner > > > > > > > > >
t-and-f: was t&f FAMOUS...GRANDMA GOT RUN OVER BY A REINDEER
A famous guy who currently runs t&f and road races is my teammate (Tamalpa Runners in Marin County, CA) Dr. Elmo (Elmo Shropshire) who sings "Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer", a much played holiday sing along song. Another dude that comes to mind (and now I'm reaching ever deeper into the esoteric) is Karsten Solheim. Solheim who came to SF to run the Hunter S Thompson Fear & Loathing 50 Mile Run which I used to direct, is the founder of Ping, a name of significance if you're a golf hack like I. -MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: t-and-f: Famous People Who Have Run Track? > Britney Spears once ran after a bus. > > Tom Cruise has jumped for joy on occasion. > > Richard Nixon once threw a fit. > > sideshow > > >
t-and-f: Famous People... defense of Mathis
Like I said when initially naming Mathis, he was the school record holder in
HJ at my alma mater San Francisco State University (an NCAA Div ll school)
and in recent years helped fund the program for which I am eternally
grateful...a good guy puts back into the sport!
- MF
Mike Fanelli
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- Original Message -
From: Geoff Pietsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous People... In defense of Mathis
> If Mathis jumped 6'5" way back when the record was 7'0" - or less - then
> he was within 7" of the best in the world. Hmmm, 7'5" today sure sounds
> like world class, so why is it a stretch for Mathis to call himself
national
> class at 6'5" in his day. If he'd jumped one inch higher and made T&FN's
> sacred 50, would that have made him national class? And, at the least,
does
> he deserve ridicule ("even though he tried to build himself up as such")
if
> he was as close as it appears he was.
>Geoff Pietsch
>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: t-and-f: Famous People...
> >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:33:46 EST
> >
> >In a message dated Thu, 13 Dec 2001 7:07:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >David Dallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> > > Following up earlier replies, I'm fairly sure Alice Cooper threw the
> >javelin around 250 feet (as well as the 4:20 mile someone else mentioned?
> >
> >Would be a candidate for the other recent thread on event range!). And
> >Johnny Mathis, 9.5 for 100 yards. Both these from the TFN columns of more
> >than 30 years ago.>>
> >
> >Not any T&FN columns I've ever read. I think I recall Runners' World
> >talking
> >
> >about Cooper running a marathon once, but if he were a 250-foot javelin
> >
> >thrower under that name we'd know it, and i just don't think it's true.
> >
> >
> >As for Mathis his "claim to fame" was that he was a 6-5 type high jumper
> >when
> >
> >the US 50-deep list went down to 6-6. He was a decent small-college
jumper
> >
> >(San Francisco State) but never national-class, even though he has tried
to
> >
> >build himself up as such.
> >
> >
> >gh
> >
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Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?
I understand that Rodney Dangerfield was a terrible high school miler and that John Belushi (who demonstrated great form during the food fight scene in Animal House) was some kind of thrower. - MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Shawn Devereaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > Patrick Swayze was a pole vaulter at Houston Scarborough HS. > Garth Brooks threw the javelin for Oklahoma State. > Axl Rose, of all people, was a sprinter at some Indiana HS. > Shaquile O'Neal long ran track, at least as a freshman, at San Antonio > Cole HS. No idea what events though. > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Didn't a certain former U.S. President run NCAA cross country > > in his college days? > > > > By the way, on the topic of presidential track athletes, > > I visited the Nixon Presidential Library last week for the first > > time, and one of their displays said that "RN" competed in both > > football and track at Whittier Union High School, but by his > > senior year he was spending all of his time with the debate team. > > It's hard to visualize 'tricky Dick' throwing a jav or blazing > > over hurdles! He did have the upraised arms in "v for victory" mode > > down pat though! > > Of course thinking back 30 years, it's sometimes difficult to > > separate the Dan Akroyd caricature-Nixon from the real Nixon :-) > > [for you young whippersnappers, Dan Akroyd did to Nixon pretty > > much the same thing that Dana Carvey has done to recent Prez's] > > The Nixon library had a HS picture of Nixon in football uniform, > > but no track pictures on display. I think he graduated from HS in > > 1930, Whittier College in '34 (after turning down a Harvard > > scholarship), and Duke Law School in '37. > > > > RT > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
Fw: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?
Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message ----- From: Mike Fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Edward Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > AHHH yes Mr. Mathis...former school record holder at my alma mater, San > Francisco State University...h.s. city champ in high jump (at Washington) > then a 6'8" jumper as a Gator...came back around in early '80s (kudos to > Harry Marra for re-igniting the relationship) to help fund our squad to Penn > Relays and more...a down to earth 'sorta guy who really got a charge out of > helping us kids...we even re-named our 'spring tune up meet' to the Johnny > Mathis Invitational...an event that carries on to this day!! > > -MF > > > > Mike Fanelli > "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > (415) 447 - 6254 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.SFabode.com > www.MarinHouseHunting.com > - Original Message - > From: Edward Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mike Fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Michael Contopoulos > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > > > Bill Cosby and Johnny Mathis. > > > > -Ed Koch > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mike Fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:35 PM > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > > > > > >Carvey ran in hs @ San Mateo ,CA and possibly even at College of San > > >Mateo...plays drums on occasion with the Aggie band...I used to sell > Robin > > >Williams his running shoes in the old days (when I was in that biz once > > upon > > >a time)...GREAT fun guy...ran at Tamalpais HS here in Mill Valley , CA > > >...don't know that he ran THAT fast...still loves the sport. > > > > > >Other famous tracksters?? Didn't Michael Landon have the national h.s. > > >record in javelin...at least Jersey State Champ?? Alice Cooper a mid > 4:20s > > >high school miler?? What about that dude who is now a Congressman in > Kansas > > >who ran 3:51.1 > > > > > >- MF > > > > > > > > >Mike Fanelli > > >"your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > > >Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > > >(415) 447 - 6254 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >www.SFabode.com > > >www.MarinHouseHunting.com > > >- Original Message - > > >From: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:58 PM > > >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > > > > > > > >> Dana Carvey ran track and I heard once that Robin Williams ran 1:57 in > > the > > >> 800 in hs. > > >> > > >> M > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >Subject: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > >> >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:12:06 EST > > >> > > > >> >Y ask: > > >> > > > >> >Just got this strange/silly inquiry from John Hayes, who apparently > > >thinks > > >> >he can lure some kids into track by highlighting famous people who > have > > >> >competed: > > >> > > > >> >Hello, > > >> >I'm a track coach at a small Midwest High School. I'm trying to > > >> >recruit heavily for the upcoming season. I was wondering if you have > a > > >> >list of Famous Track Athletes. Not the athletes that only run Track, > but > > >> >I'm looking for famous football players, basketball layers, baseball > > >> >player, Hockey players, and movie stars that have run Track & Field. > > >Thanks > > >> >for your help > > >> > > > >> >If you have suggestions, write him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > > >> >Thanks for your indulgence. > > >> > > > >> >Ken Stone > > >> >http://www.famoustrackstars.com > > >> > > > >> >Bill Cosby and Jack Lemon come to mind, plus any number of > > >> >javelin-throwers-turned-Steelers-QBs-turned-sportscasters. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _ > > >> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > >> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Fw: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?
> Carvey ran in hs @ San Mateo ,CA and possibly even at College of San > Mateo...plays drums on occasion with the Aggie band...I used to sell Robin > Williams his running shoes in the old days (when I was in that biz once upon > a time)...GREAT fun guy...ran at Tamalpais HS here in Mill Valley , CA > ...don't know that he ran THAT fast...still loves the sport. > > Other famous tracksters?? Didn't Michael Landon have the national h.s. > record in javelin...at least Jersey State Champ?? Alice Cooper a mid 4:20s > high school miler?? What about that dude who is now a Congressman in Kansas > who ran 3:51.1 > > - MF > > > Mike Fanelli > "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > (415) 447 - 6254 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.SFabode.com > www.MarinHouseHunting.com > - Original Message - > From: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > > > Dana Carvey ran track and I heard once that Robin Williams ran 1:57 in the > > 800 in hs. > > > > M > > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > > >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:12:06 EST > > > > > >Y ask: > > > > > >Just got this strange/silly inquiry from John Hayes, who apparently > thinks > > >he can lure some kids into track by highlighting famous people who have > > >competed: > > > > > >Hello, > > >I'm a track coach at a small Midwest High School. I'm trying to > > >recruit heavily for the upcoming season. I was wondering if you have a > > >list of Famous Track Athletes. Not the athletes that only run Track, but > > >I'm looking for famous football players, basketball layers, baseball > > >player, Hockey players, and movie stars that have run Track & Field. > Thanks > > >for your help > > > > > >If you have suggestions, write him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Thanks for your indulgence. > > > > > >Ken Stone > > >http://www.famoustrackstars.com > > > > > >Bill Cosby and Jack Lemon come to mind, plus any number of > > >javelin-throwers-turned-Steelers-QBs-turned-sportscasters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > >
Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?
Carvey ran in hs @ San Mateo ,CA and possibly even at College of San Mateo...plays drums on occasion with the Aggie band...I used to sell Robin Williams his running shoes in the old days (when I was in that biz once upon a time)...GREAT fun guy...ran at Tamalpais HS here in Mill Valley , CA ...don't know that he ran THAT fast...still loves the sport. Other famous tracksters?? Didn't Michael Landon have the national h.s. record in javelin...at least Jersey State Champ?? Alice Cooper a mid 4:20s high school miler?? What about that dude who is now a Congressman in Kansas who ran 3:51.1???? - MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > Dana Carvey ran track and I heard once that Robin Williams ran 1:57 in the > 800 in hs. > > M > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track? > >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:12:06 EST > > > >Y ask: > > > >Just got this strange/silly inquiry from John Hayes, who apparently thinks > >he can lure some kids into track by highlighting famous people who have > >competed: > > > >Hello, > >I'm a track coach at a small Midwest High School. I'm trying to > >recruit heavily for the upcoming season. I was wondering if you have a > >list of Famous Track Athletes. Not the athletes that only run Track, but > >I'm looking for famous football players, basketball layers, baseball > >player, Hockey players, and movie stars that have run Track & Field. Thanks > >for your help > > > >If you have suggestions, write him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Thanks for your indulgence. > > > >Ken Stone > >http://www.famoustrackstars.com > > > >Bill Cosby and Jack Lemon come to mind, plus any number of > >javelin-throwers-turned-Steelers-QBs-turned-sportscasters. > > > > > > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >
Re: t-and-f: Re: hot and humid trials
Hell, why don't we just have the Birmingham Trials officials distribute to each qualifier one of those rubber sweatsuits that wrestlers use?? Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Benji Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: t&f list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: t-and-f: Re: hat and humid trials > on 12/3/01 7:19 AM, Mcewen, Brian T at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Birmingham in early February sounds OK for the men, but St. Louis in early > > April seems like it could be too hot for the women. > > > > Of course, it could be cool and low humidity. But it could be too warm and > > humid too. > > > > Anyone who lives closer to St. Louis have an opinion on what it *might* be > > like on the day? > > Athens _will_ be hot and humid. The team should be made up of runners who > have the training and tolerance for heat and humidity. > > bd > -- > Benji Durden > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
t-and-f: BOB RUSH
anyone have an e-mail address for Bob?? -MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: CALIF HS RESULTS??
Been away on vacation...anyone have XC results for CA state meet ?? THANK YOU! -MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: NCAA XC QUESTION
When was the last time that a mere point separated the team title?? Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: TINY KANE (was best h.s. milers)
Kane ran a best of 3:55.77 in Koblenz 25 AUG 82 -Mike Fanelli > Phil "Tiny" Kane indeed went to Rogers HS, Newport, RI > >
Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?
Randy Wilson PR is 3:58.74 run in Eugene on 12 May 84 - Mike Fanelli > I think Randy Wilson may have run faster than the > 3:59.20 listed for Iowa (I read something that said > 3:58.1). He's from Knoxville, Iowa. Also, Corey Ihmels > name is spelled wrong on the list. > > > --- jsully13 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who ran the list bfastest all-time mile for each of the 50 > > states? Based on where each guy went to HS, but > > includes post-HS times. Anyone to add or > > corrections to the elow? > > > > Alabama: Steve Bolt -- 3:59.40 > > Alaska: Marcus Dunbar -- 4.00.58 > > Arizona: > > Arkansas: Brian Baker -- 3:57.40 > > California: Steve Scott -- 3:47.69 > > Colorado: Adam Goucher -- 3:54.17 > > Connecticut: Kevin King -- 3:58.31 > > Delaware: > > Florida: Brian Jaeger -- 3:59.47 > > Georgia: > > Hawaii: Duncan McDonald -- 3:58.4 > > Idaho: > > Illinois: Jim Spivey -- 3:49.80 > > Indiana: Terry Brahm -- 3:54.56 > > Iowa: Jerome Howe -- 3:59.20 > > Kansas: Jim Ryun -- 3:51.1 > > Kentucky: > > Louisiana: Shannon Lemora -- 3:57.47 > > Maine: Erik Nedeau -- 3:57.28 > > Maryland: Dave Patrick -- 3:56.8 > > Massachusetts: Andy Downin -- 3:56.25 > > Michigan: Paul McMullen -- 3:55.84 > > Minnesota: Steve Holman -- 3:50.40 > > Mississippi: > > Missouri: Joe Falcon -- 3:49.31 > > Montana: > > Nebraska: > > Nevada: > > New Hampshire: Matt Downin -- 4:00.52 > > New Jersey: Marty Liquori -- 3:52.2 > > New Mexico: Chuck Aragon -- 3:51.62 > > New York: John Gregorek -- 3:51.34 > > North Carolina: Tony Waldrop -- 3:53.2 > > North Dakota: Corey Imhals -- 3:59.70 > > Ohio: Tom Byers -- 3:50.83 > > Oklahoma: > > Oregon: Steve Prefontaine -- 3:54.60 > > Pennsylvania: Paul Vandergrift -- 3:57.88 > > Rhode Island: > > South Carolina: Terrence Herrington -- 3:53.64 > > South Dakota: Jeff Schemmel -- 3:58.18 > > Tennessee: Jay Woods -- 3:54.40 > > Texas: Todd Harbour -- 3:50.34 > > Utah: Jeremy Tolman -- 3:59.99 > > Vermont: > > Virginia: Alan Webb -- 3:53.43 > > Washington: John Quade -- 3:54.60 > > West Virginia: > > Wisconsin: Steve Lacy -- 3:54.70 > > Wyoming: > > > = > Kelley Halliburton > > Trade Marketing Manager > Human Kinetics Publishers > Champaign, IL > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > >
Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?
Isn't list member [EMAIL PROTECTED] the reigning guru of all time HS mile times?? Maybe he can re-send the all time list to us...I seem to have misplaced it. Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: jsully13 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ? > Who ran the fastest all-time mile for each of the 50 states? Based on where each guy went to HS, but includes post-HS times. Anyone to add or corrections to the list below? > > Alabama: Steve Bolt -- 3:59.40 > Alaska: Marcus Dunbar -- 4.00.58 > Arizona: > Arkansas: Brian Baker -- 3:57.40 > California: Steve Scott -- 3:47.69 > Colorado: Adam Goucher -- 3:54.17 > Connecticut: Kevin King -- 3:58.31 > Delaware: > Florida: Brian Jaeger -- 3:59.47 > Georgia: > Hawaii: Duncan McDonald -- 3:58.4 > Idaho: > Illinois: Jim Spivey -- 3:49.80 > Indiana: Terry Brahm -- 3:54.56 > Iowa: Jerome Howe -- 3:59.20 > Kansas: Jim Ryun -- 3:51.1 > Kentucky: > Louisiana: Shannon Lemora -- 3:57.47 > Maine: Erik Nedeau -- 3:57.28 > Maryland: Dave Patrick -- 3:56.8 > Massachusetts: Andy Downin -- 3:56.25 > Michigan: Paul McMullen -- 3:55.84 > Minnesota: Steve Holman -- 3:50.40 > Mississippi: > Missouri: Joe Falcon -- 3:49.31 > Montana: > Nebraska: > Nevada: > New Hampshire: Matt Downin -- 4:00.52 > New Jersey: Marty Liquori -- 3:52.2 > New Mexico: Chuck Aragon -- 3:51.62 > New York: John Gregorek -- 3:51.34 > North Carolina: Tony Waldrop -- 3:53.2 > North Dakota: Corey Imhals -- 3:59.70 > Ohio: Tom Byers -- 3:50.83 > Oklahoma: > Oregon: Steve Prefontaine -- 3:54.60 > Pennsylvania: Paul Vandergrift -- 3:57.88 > Rhode Island: > South Carolina: Terrence Herrington -- 3:53.64 > South Dakota: Jeff Schemmel -- 3:58.18 > Tennessee: Jay Woods -- 3:54.40 > Texas: Todd Harbour -- 3:50.34 > Utah: Jeremy Tolman -- 3:59.99 > Vermont: > Virginia: Alan Webb -- 3:53.43 > Washington: John Quade -- 3:54.60 > West Virginia: > Wisconsin: Steve Lacy -- 3:54.70 > Wyoming: > >
Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?
RE: Utah, Paul Cummings (whom I believe went to a Utah HS) ran a lifetime best of 3:56.4 Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: jsully13 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ? > Who ran the fastest all-time mile for each of the 50 states? Based on where each guy went to HS, but includes post-HS times. Anyone to add or corrections to the list below? > > Alabama: Steve Bolt -- 3:59.40 > Alaska: Marcus Dunbar -- 4.00.58 > Arizona: > Arkansas: Brian Baker -- 3:57.40 > California: Steve Scott -- 3:47.69 > Colorado: Adam Goucher -- 3:54.17 > Connecticut: Kevin King -- 3:58.31 > Delaware: > Florida: Brian Jaeger -- 3:59.47 > Georgia: > Hawaii: Duncan McDonald -- 3:58.4 > Idaho: > Illinois: Jim Spivey -- 3:49.80 > Indiana: Terry Brahm -- 3:54.56 > Iowa: Jerome Howe -- 3:59.20 > Kansas: Jim Ryun -- 3:51.1 > Kentucky: > Louisiana: Shannon Lemora -- 3:57.47 > Maine: Erik Nedeau -- 3:57.28 > Maryland: Dave Patrick -- 3:56.8 > Massachusetts: Andy Downin -- 3:56.25 > Michigan: Paul McMullen -- 3:55.84 > Minnesota: Steve Holman -- 3:50.40 > Mississippi: > Missouri: Joe Falcon -- 3:49.31 > Montana: > Nebraska: > Nevada: > New Hampshire: Matt Downin -- 4:00.52 > New Jersey: Marty Liquori -- 3:52.2 > New Mexico: Chuck Aragon -- 3:51.62 > New York: John Gregorek -- 3:51.34 > North Carolina: Tony Waldrop -- 3:53.2 > North Dakota: Corey Imhals -- 3:59.70 > Ohio: Tom Byers -- 3:50.83 > Oklahoma: > Oregon: Steve Prefontaine -- 3:54.60 > Pennsylvania: Paul Vandergrift -- 3:57.88 > Rhode Island: > South Carolina: Terrence Herrington -- 3:53.64 > South Dakota: Jeff Schemmel -- 3:58.18 > Tennessee: Jay Woods -- 3:54.40 > Texas: Todd Harbour -- 3:50.34 > Utah: Jeremy Tolman -- 3:59.99 > Vermont: > Virginia: Alan Webb -- 3:53.43 > Washington: John Quade -- 3:54.60 > West Virginia: > Wisconsin: Steve Lacy -- 3:54.70 > Wyoming: > >
Re: t-and-f: marathon taper
My past experience as coach and (once upon a time) marathoner is that cutting back too much, as your friend suggests, leaves one feeling lethargic. I'd suggest something more along the lines of: @ 80 mpw 80, 65, 50 with an emphasis on little higher quality (i.e. shorter yet faster anaerobic threshold runs (assuming one is already doing a/t runs) and cutting back on long run (but maybe part of that long run being a bit faster than normal ...i.e. w/ 45 minutes of marathon race pace). Three weeks out, one is still getting training benefits...over the final nine or so days, the most benefit one can receive is from (relative) rest and some easy sharpening. Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Michael Contopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: t-and-f: marathon taper > ok... i'm having a discussion with a friend about a good taper for a > marathon. he thinks that for someone running 80 miles a week going into 3 > weeks of the marathon, they should run 65-70, 45, 30. I say that is too > little. I gave him examples of Bob Hodge before his 2:12:30 at Boston and > Joe Lemay prior to his race this year in NY and before his 2:13 a couple of > years ago. What do you all think... both for someone who is averaging about > 80 going into the thon and then another one averaging about 100? Anyone's > specific training that you can guide me to? Thanks, > > Mike > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >
Re: t-and-f: McCLOY
Tom Derderian wrote: > Old age leads my friend Mike to exaggerate. You didn't have to go all the > way into lane three to avoid flailing McCloy. You could have one foot on the > lane three line and still be safe. > Tom I guess I must have one of those BS meters after all -MF > > > in my days as t & f promotions guy with Reebok (help me out here Mr > > Derderian) we referred to Paul McCloy as "three lane"...because one needed > > to get out to at LEAST lane three to get around the guy > > > > > > > > Mike Fanelli > > "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > > Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > > (415) 447 - 6254 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.SFabode.com > > www.MarinHouseHunting.com > > > > > > >
t-and-f: McCLOY
in my days as t & f promotions guy with Reebok (help me out here Mr Derderian) we referred to Paul McCloy as "three lane"...because one needed to get out to at LEAST lane three to get around the guy Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: Fw: HELP! LOOKING FOR ASICS SHOE
Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message ----- From: Mike Fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: HELP! LOOKING FOR ASICS SHOE > Looking for the (recently discontinued) Asics gel DS Trainer VI in size 9 > 1/2. Any help?? > > > > > > > > > > Mike Fanelli > "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" > Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. > (415) 447 - 6254 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.SFabode.com > www.MarinHouseHunting.com > >
Re: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust
Let us remember that marijuana is NOT a performance enhancing drug and not clump this topic in with the epo, nandro, anabolics conversations. -MF > But that violates one of the basic precepts of not only this list, but also of international journalism: "people who are close to you are innocent, everybody else is dirty." > > All the Brits think every nandro positive was an innocent food pollutant; distance runners buy the Baumann toothpaste story, but think that the Kenyans and Ethiopians are EPOians, Americans think Mary Slaney got a raw deal everyone else thinks she cheated, etc., etc. > > gh > >
Re: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust
Ahhh yes, but the operative question is did he inhale?? - MF Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: Post, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust > > Olympic gold medalist Jon Drummond was arrested Tuesday for investigation of > transporting marijuana through Los Angeles International Airport. > more at > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/athletics/news/2001/10/23/drummond_arrested > _ap/ > > Marty Post > Senior Editor > Runner's World Magazine > www.runnersworld.com > > >
t-and-f: SOME NOTABLE USA PERFORMANCES
There were some fairly notable US performances amongst this weekend's marathon/half marathon results: Chicago Rod DeHaven 2:11:40 a PR Twin Cities 42 year old Mary Knisely in 2:40:33 World 1/2 Marathon Champs Milena Glusac 1:11:34 Scott Larson 1:03:08 Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
t-and-f: WOMEN's 2:20 BARRIER
With 2 women running sub 2:20 in as many weeks, will we see a new found flurry of such activity as happened when Bannister first broke 4:00?? And, while we're at it, where would Nedereba's time be ranked amongst US men this year?? Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
I know better than to comment on Garry's observation regarding Michelle Rohl...shooot all hell could break out on the list over something like that ;} Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated Tue, 2 Oct 2001 9:10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mike Fanelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The fact that 2:19:46 would be number 11 amongst American men this year is > > downright EMBARASSING!!>> > > Hey, Michelle Rohl is No. 6 among American men in the 20W. > > gh > >
t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!
The fact that 2:19:46 would be number 11 amongst American men this year is downright EMBARASSING!! Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com > " Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:54:40 -0400 > From: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia > > Trivia answer: 11th place > > Trivia question: Where would Naoko Takahashi stand on this year's U.S. > marathon list ... for men. > > 2:12:41 - Rod DeHaven > 2:16:17 - Josh Cox > 2:16:48 - Eddy Hellebuyck > 2:17:24 - Eric Polonski > 2:17:47 - Kevin Collins > 2:18:13 - Mike Dudley > 2:18:34 - Matt Capelouto > 2:18:57 - Danny Gough > 2:18:58 - Mark Coogan > 2:19:42 - Dennis Simonaitis > (2:19:46 - Naoko Takahashi)" > > And in Canada-2nd just barely: > 2:18:54, Bruce Deacon > (2:19:46 - Naoko Takahashi) > > Regards, > > > Martin > > > > >
t-and-f: ALSO EMBARRASSING
...and furthermore, I am MOST personally embarrassed with my previously faulty spelling of the word EMBARRASSING!! Mike Fanelli
t-and-f: PASSING OF A LEGEND
I'm very very bummed to pass along this sad news...Paul was an absolutely prolific racer and a real sweet guy in a very quiet way. Mike Fanelli "your San Francisco Bay Area real estate resource" Pacific Union Real Estate Group Ltd. (415) 447 - 6254 > > Y. legend Cummings dies in boat accident > By Doug Robinson > Deseret News sports writer > > Paul Cummings, an Olympic distance runner and national champion > miler for BYU, died Monday afternoon in a boating accident at Strawberry > Reservoir. > Cummings, 48, was fishing with his long-time friend and running > partner, Jay Woods, when high winds and choppy water tipped their canoe, > plunging the two men into the cold water. When the wind blew the canoe > out of their reach, they were forced to swim to shore. > "They were weighed down by their clothes and boots," says Ed > Eyestone, the BYU track coach who visited with Woods shortly after the > accident. "Jay saw Paul struggling and tried to pull him along. Jay > barely made it to shore himself." > According to John Rogers of Wasatch County Search and Rescue, the > men were only about 120 feet from shore when they fell into the > reservoir. Rogers said the temperature of the water (68 degrees on the > surface) and windy conditions made it too difficult to swim that far. > Cummings, who lived in Lehi, is survived by a wife and four > children. > Cummings, whose BYU school record in the mile (3:56.4) has > survived for 27 years, is best remembered for winning the mile at the > 1974 NCAA championships. In the years ahead, he was beset with allergies > and his performances suffered, although indoors, where he was protected > from pollen, he continued to shine. In 1978, he set an indoor American > record for 1,500 meters and a year later he and Olympic champion John > Walker both broke the world record in the 1,500, with Cummings placing > second in a photo finish. > A couple of years later, his allergies seemed to abate with the > help of medication, and Cummings resurrected his career by running > longer races, mostly on the road-racing circuit. He won the 10,000-meter > run at the 1984 U.S. Olympic Trials in Los Angeles. But illness - mostly > allergy related - waylaid him at the Olympic Games and he failed to make > the finals. > "Had he been healthy for the '84 Olympics, he would have medaled," > says Eyestone, a two-time Olympic marathoner. "He had that type of > big-gun kick that could've gotten the gold." > Cummings was renowned not only for his talent but his work ethic. > He often trained by running several miles to and from eight-hour shifts > at Geneva Steel Mill, where he performed back-breaking work with a > six-foot crowbar in the stifling heat that radiated from open-hearth > furnaces. He ran as many as 200 miles in a single week. > Cummings, a quiet, intense man with a dry sense of humor, "was a > gentleman, a true gentleman," said Ed Murrell, a long-time high school > track coach. > "He would do anything for you, and did," said Eyestone. "It's hard > to imagine that he won't be around." > > > >
t-and-f: REGINA JACOBS AT BISLETT
At today's Bislett Meeting Regina Jacobs finished 8th at 1500 in 4:11.46 (behind 2nd place Suzy Hamilton in 4:03.60 and Sarah Schwald who was 6th in 4:08.18)...anybody have any insight here on what befell Regina?? best, Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: BERRYHILL & DOWNIN @ 1500 METERS
Berryhill qualifies for Worlds (in Lausanne) with 3:35.56...Downin is a half second short at 3:36.70...Jennings and Stember have the standard (from 2000) , Lassiter and Downin are still in the hunt. -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: LASSITER, DOWNIN, SCHWALD (was U.S. STEEPLECHASE RECORD SET!)
Lassiter won the 1500 at 3:50.78 with Downin in second at 3:51.06. Schwald ran 4:07.33 for 4th in her race. Apparently the weather was kind of crappy..."an overcast and windy day" according to the report that I read. -MF > > > Results from yesterday's meet in Glasgow include a national record in > > women's steeplechase by Liz Jackson who was timed in 9:48.72. The previous > > record was set just a week ago in Eugene at the USATF meet where Jackson > > gave up her previous NR (9:49.73 '01 NCAA) in finishing second to Lisa Nye > > (9:49.41. to 9:49.94). > > > > Other highlights from Glasgow included a world leading 57'-11 1/4" TJ by > > Jonathon Edwards. > > > Also, Lassiter (at least) got his A qualifier. Any word on how Downin or > Schwald did? > >
t-and-f: U.S. STEEPLECHASE RECORD SET!
Results from yesterday's meet in Glasgow include a national record in women's steeplechase by Liz Jackson who was timed in 9:48.72. The previous record was set just a week ago in Eugene at the USATF meet where Jackson gave up her previous NR (9:49.73 '01 NCAA) in finishing second to Lisa Nye (9:49.41. to 9:49.94). Other highlights from Glasgow included a world leading 57'-11 1/4" TJ by Jonathon Edwards. -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: Runners Form
So, based on the Byron Dyce and Tom Derderian posts re: efficiency of form, is it safe to assume that a guy like Canadian, Paul McCloy (a guy we called 3 lane McCloy because one had to go all the way out to lane three to get around him and his "form"), may have actually been an efficient long distance runner?? -Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Derderian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Byron Dyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Eckmann, Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Runners Form > Byron makes a good point. The exercise physiologists talk about efficiency > by describing the amount of oxygen consumed at a sub-max effort like in a > long distance race. A runner is more efficient if less oxygen per kilogram > of body weight per second is used at a specific pace than an other runner. > But such a determination cannot be applied to a runner exceeding VO2 max > such has an 800 runner. Perhaps there is another measure of maybe lactic > acid production at a given pace where the runner producing less lactic acid > at perhaps a 60 sec 400 is more efficient. I don't know if such testing is > done on 800 meter runners as sub-max testing is done on marathoners. Does > anyone know of a measurement of efficiency for anaerobic running? > We should not confuse a measurable thing like efficiency with an aesthetic > judgment like fluidity of form. Some runners may look smooth but may or may > not be efficient in their use of energy. > Tom Derderian, Greater Boston Track Club > > - Original Message - > From: Byron Dyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Eckmann, Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Runners Form > > > > In my very humble opinion, "efficiency" should only be defined relative > > to each distance or event. What is an effiecient form or style for > > running an 800m race will probably not be efficient for running a > > marathon, etc. > > Byron > > > > "Eckmann, Drew" wrote: > > > > > > << With all this talk on form and efficiency, who out there > > > > are the most > > > > efficient runners that you have all seen? >> > > > > > > > > clearly Frank Shorter > > > > > > > > > > I'd go with Wilson Kipketer. /Drew > > > >
t-and-f: ROME GOLDEN GALA ON ESPN TODAY
FYI the Golden Gala Meeting airs on ESPN at 4 PM PST today. best, MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: 2002 FALL XC NATLS
The 2002 XC bid that was awarded this past weekend was for the Fall XC Nationals...the event will take place in Sacramento, hosted by Reebok Aggies, the Hell's Angels of track and field! best, MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: HOOTIE GOING INTERNATIONAL
Yes indeed, HOOTIE is going international...can you say Sacramento in 2002?? We will stage an XC HOOTIE in conjunction with USATF Natl XC Champs in Rocklin, CA (bid was awarded at USATF Champs this past weekend) and that's about as international as HOOTIE goes until the 2003 Worlds in Paris!!! -MF > So here is the question of the day. Given the proximity of World's, will > HOOTIE be going international? > > Tony > >
t-and-f: HOOTIE RESULTS
To the many listers who have requested results from Saturday's HOOTIE 5K: HOOTIE results wouldn't be HOOTIE results if they weren't terminally lateso, don't get your britches in a bunch...they'll be forthcoming sometime between now and HOOTIE 4.0 always, MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: KRUMMENACKER IN 1500 @ WC??
Should Downin, McMullen and/or Lassister not attain WC 1500 standards, would Krummenacker have the option to run 1500 in Edmonton? He competed at USATF Nationals as required (just not in that event) and he has a 3:36.15 standard (also note that while Krummenacker is the 2001 USATF 800 champ, he apparently does not have the A standard over 2 laps). Do the USATF eligibility rules require that an athlete compete in the National meet or is the requirement that an athlete compete in the specific event at National meet for consideration to WC team?? PS yes, I am keenly aware that Jennings and Stember also have WC "A" standards. -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: EUGENE 5K THIS SATURDAY!!
Just a final reminder that the infamous HOOTIE 5K will once again rock the streets of Bluejeans, OR this Saturday a.m... further info follows...forward this e mail to anone you know who may be in town for USATF National Track and Field...also note our distance coach's clinic on Sunday morning ai 9:00 a.m. in room 110 at the U of O school of Law across from the track at 15th and Agate...see you at one or both!! -Mike > SPREAD THE WORD!!! > > WHAT: HOOTE 3.0 > A 5K "race" (we use the term quite loosely) in conjunction with USATF > National Track and Field Championships. The "event" (we use the term quite > loosely) is officially unsactioned and includes a slew of non-sponsors. The > entry fee is zilch, the prizes are plentiful and weird, the attire is > extremely casual, the technology virtually non-existent (popsicle sticks > etc.) Divisions include first naked runner (VERY competitive... see past > results), first cross dresser, best cross dresser, slowest in relation to > their all time PR (malmo is the record holder here) and a new division for > 2001, the centipede. There are sure to be many other divisional award > categories which we will make up on race day as we see "fit" (we use the > term quite loosely) > > QUALIFICATIONS: > We have absolutely NO standards (A, B, provisional or otherwise). The > "event" is open to any schlepper or schlemiel who can drag their butts over > 3.1 miles (approximately). No whiners.No crybabies. > Particularly welcome are USATF head honchos, journalists, USATF meet > qualifiers (how about some field eventers this year??) and the general cast > of knuckleheads that made HOOTIE 1.0 and 2.0 such a "success." > > WHERE / WHEN: > Saturday, June 23rd 9:00 a.m. in the parking lot at Alton Baker Park (same > venue as 1999)...out and back on the bike path...awards ceremony to follow. > > BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Joe Rubio, Brian McGuire (macman), Peanut Harms, malmo > (in absentia) and yours truly...plus a cast of characters who choose to > remain nameless/blameless. > > N.B. results from 1999 and 200 have been posted separately > > > SPREAD THE WORD!!! > > > >
t-and-f: BERRYHILL, LUNN, WEBB and HESCH @ 1500
...your 1500 team with first alternate,,,you heard it here first!! -MF
t-and-f: EUGENE ENTRIES/QUALIFIERS??
Anyone know where on line I might get a list of evevr by event qualifiersand or entrants?? Thank you in advance (and see you at HOOTIE!!) -Mike Mike Fanelli Pacific Union San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web sites at: www.SFabode.com www.MarinHouseHunting.com
Re: t-and-f: Ken Schappert? Hmmmmmm.........
S...is it the son of former Villanova middle distance star?? Add to the list of high school 800 stand outs who had pretty fast dads (Rudy Chapa and Sam Bair in particular). Note also Tony Darden's daughter's track prowess as well as the college age daughters of Flanagan and Belger. -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: malmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Track-Fans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: t-and-f: Ken Schappert? Hmm. > From DyeStat, exciting splits in the 4 x 800 at Raleigh: > > http://63.165.247.254/us/1out/raleigh-adidas/steve-friday.htm > > South Lakes' unofficial splits: Jonathan Kebede, 1:58+; Kanda Karmo, > 1:56.3; Richard Smith, 1:53.2; Alan Webb, 1:47.3. Atlantic's: Josh > Randall, 1:56.0; Sean Jefferson, 1:54.0; Ken Schappert, 1:56.5; John > Jefferson, 1:50.8. > > An exciting battle for third was waged on the final leg as Marc > Sylvester thrilled the crowd with his 1:47.2, giving his St. Ignatius > (OH) team a 7:41.22. > > malmo >
t-and-f: Hootie Crash Training Program-READ THIS NOW!--Call for Ex-Heros!!
Am passing along the wit and wisdom of one of my HOOTIE co-race directors, Peanut Harms best, Mike Hello All...am busy training to finish the Hootie III and thought I'd share my training with all of you. Unlike alot of coaches I provide "FULL DISCLOSURE" of the secrets which helped me run just a hair over 7:05 pace in last year's runBEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO PUT AN ALL OUT BULLETIN (AND I NEED SOME HELP FROM GUYS LIKE SIEG, EDER, TJ, ETC. ETCTO ALL FORMER FAMOUS AND NOT SO FAMOUS RUNNERS WHO WILL BE IN EUGENE NEXT WEEKEND.Every year we run into a Doug Brown, Craig Virgin, Ron Addison, Bruce Bickford, Placentia, Doris Brown, Julie Brown, Francie Larrieu, etc. etc. who say, "Hell, I was there, I would've run but I didn't know about it!!"...well, let's make sure these guys & gals don't have that same lame ass excuse this yearTHOSE WHO KNOW THE E-MAILS OF THESE FORMER FAMOUS FOLKS PLEASE SEE THAT THIS MESSAGE GETS SPREAD FAR AND WIDE...and let's see if we can get these folksby the way,,,CENTROWITZ, SCHILLING, & EARL JONES ARE IN!! NOW THE TRAINING As with any exercise program make sure you get a full check up prior to starting a. Don't start program too soon, June 16th or 17th would be good...we don't want anyone getting shin splints b. Hydrate with anything alcoholic 8-10 days prior to the race (you should have already started!). Your hardest day, drinking that is, is TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THE RACE..THURSDAY... c. Do not do anything that remotely looks or feels like running anytime before the race...this will only remind you of how bad off you are...train mentally through other people running.watch them run, look at them hurt, listen to their complaining, then hydrate with a frosty beverage to recover. d. Approach the morning of the race with confidence, coffee, and a Krispy Kreme doughnut...and the knowledge that no matter how slow you are, if you continue this program you can get alot slower for Hootie IV in Sacramento at Cross Country Nationals 2002! e. Call home immediately after race and tell whoever you call you ran alot faster than you actually did, just like you used to do when you were competing f. Repeat "b." See you on the starting line fellow Hootiemeisters. Now go start training Coach Nut Joe Rubio wrote: Subject: t-and-f: 2001 HOOTIE 5K in EUGENE 6/23 !!! Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:30:48 -0700 From: "mike fanelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Microsoft Corporation To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SPREAD THE WORD!!! WHAT: HOOTE 3.0 A 5K "race" (we use the term quite loosely) in conjunction with USATF National Track and Field Championships. The "event" (we use the term quite loosely) is officially unsactioned and includes a slew of non-sponsors. The entry fee is zilch, the prizes are plentiful and weird, the attire is extremely casual, the technology virtually non-existent (popsicle sticks etc.) Divisions include first naked runner (VERY competitive... see past results), first cross dresser, best cross dresser, slowest in relation to their all time PR (malmo is the record holder here) and a new division for 2001, the centipede. There are sure to be many other divisional award categories which we will make up on race day as we see "fit" (we use the term quite loosely) QUALIFICATIONS: We have absolutely NO standards (A, B, provisional or otherwise). The "event" is open to any schlepper or schlemiel who can drag their butts over 3.1 miles (approximately). No whiners.No crybabies. Particularly welcome are USATF head honchos, journalists, USATF meet qualifiers (how about some field eventers this year??) and the general cast of knuckleheads that made HOOTIE 1.0 and 2.0 such a "success." WHERE / WHEN: Saturday, June 23rd 9:00 a.m. in the parking lot at Alton Baker Park (same venue as 1999)...out and back on the bike path...awards ceremony to follow. BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Joe Rubio, Brian McGuire (macman), Peanut Harms, malmo (in absentia) and yours truly...plus a cast of characters who choose to remain nameless/blameless. N.B. results from 1999 and 200 have been posted separately SPREAD THE WORD!!!
t-and-f: 1999 HOOTIE RESULTS ATTACHED
> An impressive 93 runners assembled for the nation's most low tech race of > the 90's. No entry fees, permits, tee shirts, or crybabies. Just popsicle > sticks, hand times and beer awards. The list of finishers below is worth > reading...a real who's who, loaded with list members and Olympians. Without > any further adieu, I present the "official" results of HOOTIE 1 (not to be > confused with HOOTIE 2 which will take place in Sacramento next July...start > training now!) > > 1 Jamey Harris 14:59 > 2 John Warren 15:01 > 3 Scott Kennedy :17 > 4 Casey Carroll :35 > 5 Eric Ackerman :38 > 6 Greg Whiteley :54 > 7 Jeff Shaver :55 > 8 BANDIT!!! (hard to believe) > 9 NoahMegowan 16:09 > 10 Terrance Boynton :11 > 11 Todd Pehowski :19 > 12 Jim West :21 > 13 Kieran Sherlock :24 > 14 Brian McGuire :27 > 15 Tim Minor :31 > 16 Brian Fullen :31 > 17 Bobby Hodge :32 > 18 Ray Cook :37 > 19 dale Londos :39 > 20 Matt Yeo :40 > 21 Joe Stegall :41 > 22 Craig Virgin :42.8 > 23 Tom Cushman :56 > 24 Steve Adelman 17:03 > 25 Chip Lawsmaid :07 > 26 Rich Harrington :12 > 27 Dan Lilot :23 (1st place statistician's division representing T&FN) > 28 Eric Barron :24 > 29 Snake? :25 > 30 Doug Steedman :29 > 31 Jason Grier :30 > 32 Dan Brin :31 > 33 Matt O'Brien :40 > 34 James Lauck :41 > 35 Josh Glass :42 > 36 Amol Saxena :43 > 37 Kevin Searls :50 > 38 Jeff Townsend :51 > 39 Danny Lopez :52 (yeah, that one) > 40 Tony Coffey :53 > 41 Devon Jones :56 > 42 Peter Lewandowski :58 > 43 Leo Lenting :59 > 44 Bruce Bickford 18:02 (coach of Ned) > 45 Dirk Rohloff :05 > 46 Scott Thomas :08 > 47 Alan Drosky :22 > 48 Liz Leighwood :25 1F > 49 Carl Sniffen :26 > 50 Kipp Ortenberger :27 > 51 Bob Coll :29 > 52 Brian Waterbury :40 > 53 Brad Hurst :40 > 54 Gary Liguori :47 > 55 Doug Consiglio :49 > 56 Chad Bennion :50 > 57 Ron Richardson (1st NAKED RUNNER) :54 > 58 Mike Fanelli :56 > 59 UNKNOWN > 60 Travis Grappo 19:08 > 61 Ron Swart :25 > 62 Margaret Lang :50 > 63 Julie Rohloff :51 > 64 Matt McGuirk :52 > 65 Noreen Searls :53 > 66 Ed Klotz :53 > 67 Larry Beckerle :57 > 68 Brian Sniffen :58 > 69 Janice Minor 20:03 > 70 Paul Nisius :16 > 71 Rich Clark :26 > 72 Van Norman :35 > 73 Mark Abraham :40 > 74 Tracy Tabb :43 > 75 Suzy Walsh :50 > 76 Erik Palmer :51 > 77 Dave Frank 21:10 > 78 Chris Schille :10 > 79 Joe Rubio :10 > 80 Roger Wolfe :18 > 81 Marty Post :25 (2nd place statistician's division reresenting Runner's > World) > 82 Bob Choquette :27 > 83 Ron Tabb :30 > 84 Stan Rosenfield 22:36 (1st place Adidas Country division) > 85 Mona Baldna 23:07 > 86 Jennifer Rubio :07 > 87 UNKNOWN > 88 MALMO :59 > 89 Doug Owyang 24:54 > 90 Dale Chan 25:02 > 91 Aubrey Swart :19 > 92 Steve Osterman :25 > 93 Cheri Osterman ;25 > > > > > > >
t-and-f: HOOTIE 2000 RESULTS
> HOOTIE 2.0 is now history, having taken place last Sunday evening, just less > than two hours after the 1500 meter finals. This year's running was marred > by records in most "divisions". This year's wiener, Buck Jones eclipsed the > 14:59 standard set in Eugene last year by 2000 runner-up, Jamey Harris. > Buck, seen quaffing a malt beverage within a half hour of the start, waltzed > to a 14:52 time, some 18 seconds up on Harris. > > Just 37 seconds later, our next buck came rolling in...this one was (swear > to god) buck nekid and hails from buck-nell university. Our final buck, and > this year's HOOTIE HONOREE (an award reserved for the athlete who most > closely exemplifies all that hootie stands for) was none other than Eddy > HellyBUECK. Eddy not only consumed at least one sixteen ounce beverage in > the final minutes prior to the start, but the guy scarfed down an entire > serving of super nachos and then high tailed it over the 3.1 miles in a pair > of gray leather boat shoes!! > For his efforts, Mr. H earned a highly coveted plaque (perpetual) from the > 1962 US vs Poland Dual meet...this particular "collector's item" was > originally awarded for 1st place in the 1600 meter relay (and purchased on > e-bay by a particular member of the Hootie committee who will go unnamed). > > 2.0 was run as an out and back along the bike path which parallels the great > American River. In total, 143 "runners" toed the line...50 more than in last > year's inaugural event. The running of HOOTIE 3.0 will take place in > conjunction with next June's USATF National Track & Field Championships in > Eugene. > > Below are complete results (read very deeply, you might be surprised at who > actually showed up for this thing!): > > buck jones 14:52 (meet record) > jamey harris 15:10 > scott sehon 15:47 (1st nr) > ray cook 15:54 > kevin ostenberg 15:58 > eddy hellybueck 15:59 (deck shoes) > noah marcus 16;14 > art martin 16:24 > ian shapiro 16:26 > david glen 16:34 > steve howard 16:35 > marty bushard 16:36 > dan mancini 16:39 > marc reider 16:42 > tim minor 16:44 > gary towne 16:46 > mark groenheide 16:49 > brian fullem 16:49 > dan shore 16:54 > doug consiglio 16:55 > miruts yifter 17:02 > kevin williams 17:11 > dave frank 17:11 > sean sheil 17:13 > david flynn 17:16 > home demone 17;19 > blake whyte 17:26 > andy chan 17:29 > joerg herbechtsmeier 17:34 > josh glass 17:35 > jay heldt 17:46 > mark conover 17:47 > dan lilot 17:48 > mikal peveto 17:50 > pete miller 17:52 > dan feder 17:53 > tom cushman 18:00 > snake 18:05 > chip longmaid 18:06 > bill cleaves 18:18 (birkenstocks) > brian mcguire 18:18 > matt yeo 18:28 > ron richardson 18:28 > scott schneider 18:29 > kevin graham 18:30 > brian waterbury 18:30 > joe joe 18:31 > jeff shaver 18:34 > farley thompson 18:40 > mike fanelli 18:42 > rachel cook 18:47 (1st w) > hank lawson 18:49 > kevin searls 18:55 > devon young 18:58 > ron wall 19:04 > doug nelson 19:05 > larry fine 19:07 > paul miers 19:17 > ron smith 19:09 > will palladino 19;23 > kim lilot 19:25 > christine brighton 19:25 (2 w) > dave skoufos 19:27 > kristin farmer 19:30 (3 w) > pat shedon 19:38 > carl sniffen 19:38 > cardenas redistear 19;39 > kevin curtin 19:44 > mike toomey 19:44 > david lesley 19:44 > tyler abbott 19:44 > larry beckerly 19:48 > kurt bray 19:50 > crystan glenn 19:57 > chris ladd 19:59 > eric palmer 20:10 > steve barton 20;18 > doug lynch 20:19 > bob darling 20:25 > matt farmer 20:31 > ken kozloff 20;35 > steve palladino 20:38 > louie quintana 20:39 > charley shaffer 20:56 (nike terra t.c.) > peggy ostenberg 21:01 > mona balona 21:01 > noreen searls 21:01 > dustin schlegle 21:11 > ed schlegle 21:11 > rich clark 21;12 > dave hamway 21:15 > chip bridges 21;15 > ed prytherch 21;19 > jeff townsend 21;25 > joe harlan 21:29 > dave wood 21:30 > peanut harms 21:31 > cher harms 21;31 > pat king 21:32 > ed klotz 21;49 > todd chambers 22:04 > pete vicencio 22:05 > sergey nocheveney 22:06 > joe rubio 22:15 > andy ferrara 22:16 > mark keller 22:12 > jeff small 22:23 > pat coyle 22:24 > adam newman 22:17 > stan rosenfield 22:24 (adidas country) > toby cook 22:25 > sieg lindstrom 22:25 > chris thomas 22;25 > train wreck 22:26 > mike clayton 22;47 > dave daer 22:45 > ray sibley 22;56 > drew eckman 23:14 > tena harms 23:33 > sean hartnett 23;40 > mike saso 24;12 > tom lux 24:33 (chiliburger & brew :10 prior) > nick laythe 24;46 > bob rush 24:54 > billy ray smith 25:06 > aaron schlegle 25:08 > art mc c 25;20 > frank mcconnville 25:51 > marc genet 25:38 > jeter jr 25:38 > betsy bengemann 25:50 > bob sevene 27:03 > the great dane 26:07 > pete sweeney 28:14 > joe mangan 28:14 > randy matson 28;13 > larry white 28:58 > kail bengeman 3;13 > jan bengeman 33:13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toby co > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
t-and-f: 2001 HOOTIE 5K in EUGENE 6/23 !!!
SPREAD THE WORD!!! WHAT: HOOTE 3.0 A 5K "race" (we use the term quite loosely) in conjunction with USATF National Track and Field Championships. The "event" (we use the term quite loosely) is officially unsactioned and includes a slew of non-sponsors. The entry fee is zilch, the prizes are plentiful and weird, the attire is extremely casual, the technology virtually non-existent (popsicle sticks etc.) Divisions include first naked runner (VERY competitive... see past results), first cross dresser, best cross dresser, slowest in relation to their all time PR (malmo is the record holder here) and a new division for 2001, the centipede. There are sure to be many other divisional award categories which we will make up on race day as we see "fit" (we use the term quite loosely) QUALIFICATIONS: We have absolutely NO standards (A, B, provisional or otherwise). The "event" is open to any schlepper or schlemiel who can drag their butts over 3.1 miles (approximately). No whiners.No crybabies. Particularly welcome are USATF head honchos, journalists, USATF meet qualifiers (how about some field eventers this year??) and the general cast of knuckleheads that made HOOTIE 1.0 and 2.0 such a "success." WHERE / WHEN: Saturday, June 23rd 9:00 a.m. in the parking lot at Alton Baker Park (same venue as 1999)...out and back on the bike path...awards ceremony to follow. BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Joe Rubio, Brian McGuire (macman), Peanut Harms, malmo (in absentia) and yours truly...plus a cast of characters who choose to remain nameless/blameless. N.B. results from 1999 and 200 have been posted separately SPREAD THE WORD!!!
t-and-f: HOOTIE 3.0 IS A GO!!!!!!!
Eugene,OR...Saturday 6/23...BE THERE!!! -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: FRANKLYN SANCHEZ
Having recently broken Pre's junior 5000 meter standard, I am curious as to how Sanchez fared at NCAAs? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: LASSITER
Anyone know definitively of Seneca Lassiter's injury status? Is he able to race at upcoming Nationals? He looked GREAT indoors. -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: GOLF AT USATF NATLS 6/22 (FRI)
If you are interested in joining us for an early morning round of golf on Friday 6/22 please respond to me off list ASAP. We'll be playing at the famed Sandpines course on the Oregon dunes (just an hour west in Florence). Greens fee is $50 (walking)...add$26 for the Casey Martin cart. We'll be back to Hayward Field in plenty of time for the late afternoon running events. best, Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: McAfee, Fikes
Fikes was actually referred to as Elton (vs Denis with one n)...probably
still is...went on to be a head honcho administrative type at Penn...for the
record, the skinny kid from Bishop McDevitt H.S. in Philadelphia who held
the finish line tape for the (then) momentous duel between Waldrop and Fikes
at Penn that year ('74 with Tony W. prevailing 3:53.2 to 3:55.0) was none
other than yours truly...the fact of the matter is that I still, to this
day, have that finish line tape (polyester wound string)!!!
once a geek, always...
- MF
Mike Fanelli
San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist
professional representation of buyers and sellers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:36 PM
Subject: t-and-f: McAfee, Fikes
> Do I have to say it? Malmo was right.
>
> McAfee ran 3:59.3, finishing second to Waldrop's 3:58.4 in 1973.
>
> Denis (one 'n') Fikes ran 3:55.0, second to Waldrop's 3:53.2 in 1974 at
Penn Relays.
>
> George McWilliams
t-and-f: DANIELSON (was Predict Webb's future)
See page 11 of most recent T&F News (June) for a great piece on Tim Danielson. -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Edward Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Patrick Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 AM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Predict Webb's future > I'm also curious about Tim Danielson since he was before my time and not someone whom much has been written about (at least that I could find). Was his 3:59.4 a one-time effort that he never otherwise approached before or after? Any background or web links would be appreciated. > > Ed Koch > > --Original Message-- > From: Patrick Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm so excited about "the kid" that I went > back to my lists of high school improvements to > see what he might improve to in the next 15 years. > > Here is a sample of runners to give you an idea. >Highschool bestimprovement > > Steve Scott 4:10+ 3:47 23 > Steve Holman4:10+ 3:49+ 21 > Joe Falcon 4:083:49 19 > John Gregorek 4:053:51 14 > Bob Kennedy 4:063:56 10 > Marty Liquori 3:59.8 3:52.2 7.6 > Matt Centrowitz 4:01.27+3:54.9 6.4 > Jim Ryun3:553:51 4 > Time Danielson 3:59.4 3:59.4 0 > Gerry Lindgren 4:01.5 4:01.5 0 > Rich Kimball4:02.4 4:02.4?0 > > Alan Webb 3:53.43 ?? > > BTW what ever happend to Tim Danielson after HighSchool? > > Track is Really Back !!! > > >
t-and-f: "WEBBesque"
I am still shaking my head in great bewilderment over the mighty Alan Webb performance at Pre...one of THE most incredible performances...downright spooky! Four questions: 1 Does anyone know of an available videotape of the race? 2 Will our beloved TV commentators begin referring to certain performances as being "Webbesque" instead of Beamonesque? 3 Will this mark lead a crusade of high schoolers into the big leagues (along the lines of the media crediting Shorter's '72 marathon victory with the launch of the running boom)? 4 Is the kid going to make the US team for Edmonton?? (I'm thinking YES!!) -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: PYRAH & MIKE MILLER
At this past weekend's Oregon Twilight Meet one mile, Mike Miller was 1st in 3:57.13...Jason Pyrah finished mid pack in 4:06. Two questions a) is this a PR for Miller (I remember him running fast last year pre-trials...maybe at Santa Monica) and b)what's up with Pyrah? Did he fall? Start late? Allergies?? -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: MJ vs D MITCHELL IMPACT ON T&F (was BOOOO USATF = bad decision)
Conway, DO you REALLY believe that Dennis Mitchell has had as positive an impact on the sport of track and field (which, in my opinion means "has he created a significant, positive and heightened awareness of track and field amongst the general public...not the track geeks on our list and those that subscribe to the bible of our sport) as Michael Johnson??? My original point in this thread was that USATF which can make a decision regarding a specific athlete and instance , chose to make one (not allowing MJ to compete) that was not necessarily beneficial to the broad promotion of the sport...end of story. -MF Mike FanelliSan Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialistprofessional representation of buyers and sellers[EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254or visit my web site at:www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Conway Hill To: Dgs1170 ; t-and-f_1 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: BOOO USATF = BAD DECISION!! I understand your point ... And even agree with it in prinicpal ... But let me play the devil's advocate and ask this question ... If Gail Devers made an announcement that she would like to run on the 4x1 at this year's WC, but she doesn't plan to run at Nationals this year, should she be allowed to run on the team ??? Or even hitting closer to home for you, how about Dennis Mitchell ??? Say Dennis makes an announcement that this will be his last year in the sport, and that he would like to be the 3rd leg on this year's WC 4x1 ??? Dennis states that he has clearly been one of the top 2 3rd legs in history ... That he has served the US well in Olympic and WC competition, and that he wants one last hurrah at the WCs ... What do you do ??? Gail and Dennis have both done as much for the sport as MJ ... maybe more since both have been in the sport longer than MJ ...Do you award a spot to MJ but turn them down ?? If so why ?? If not at what point do you draw the line on such requests ??? My position is less MJ bashing (as I keep being labeled on this list) as much as it is against the attempt at dictatorship of the sport by individual athletes ... "I'm great so give me what I want" ... The sport has rules (and ironically in this case the rules may actually favor MJ in reality) and I guess I get irritated when we change them specifically to benefit an individual at a time .. We change the order and times of events now in the Olympics to favor an individual athlete as if that is going to make the event so much greater ... Because so and so says if you do that I can achive something historical ... Of course historical to me means you achieve it in the same context that EVERYONE ELSE had to attempt it under, not as a made for TV event ! I was against it when Carl Lewis used to make the same kind of requests and I am still against it ... And ironically MJ should to put Carl down for the same thing ... But then I guess what is right or wrong depends on what side of the fence you are sitting on ... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: BOOO USATF = BAD DECISION!! As much as I would love to jump on the bash wagon, I cannot. He may not have been the pr boon, but his success and feats have done a lot for the betterment of the sport. I do not think that needs to be explained. As much as we like to bitch about his lack of personality, and monotone delivery, he is a respected announcer, and the fans love to see and hear him. Do not mistake our fine tooth combing for the opinions of the general public. MJ is a star, and he has done a lot for the sport in that regard. DGS Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2 Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
t-and-f: BOOOOOOO!!!! USATF = BAD DECISION!!
First of all, I am not a USATF basher (at least not since some old AAU days when Pre and Shorter were being hassled...well and maybe some beefs with Ollan Cassell). I firmly believe that our governing body has taken some positive strides since Masback has taken the reins...good folks on board at the top including the likes of Bill Roe and Carol McLatchieHOWEVER, I am quite disappointed with USATF's decision to disallow the participation of Michael Johnson on the World Championships 4 x 4 squad should he not compete in Eugene's USATF Natls (June 21-24). As a guy with a half dozen super premium finish line seats at that meet, know, that I'd LOVE to see MJ in action in Eugene...yet, if it's not o his agenda, so be it...first of all, USATF should recognize all that Michael Johnson HAS done for track and field awareness in this country and tip their hats to him on his farewell tour (in a show of sportsmanship and gratitude). secondly, what's good for the sport internationally is good for the sport locally...MJ in Edmonton is good for track and field PERIOD...I rest my case! -MF ps...be sure to read the attached blurb re: Antonio Pettigrew's opinion Subject: t-and-f: Let Johnson run in Edmonton, says Pettigrew > From http://www.athletics-online.co.uk/110509pettigrew.htm: > > Antonio Pettigrew believes Michael Johnson should have received a guaranteed > place on the world championship 4x400m relay squad without having to run at > the trials. > > Johnson, who has won the last four individual world 400m titles, intends to > compete only in relays during his retirement season and had hoped to anchor > the United States to victory in Edmonton. > > However, USATF decided last weekend to uphold a recent rule change, which > says that defending world champions with a bye must still compete at the > trials to gain selection. > > Pettigrew, the last man other than Johnson to win the world 400m title, > believes the five-time Olympic champion should have been given a waiver. > > "Michael Johnson's been in this sport for a long time," said the 1991 world > champion. "He's helped promote track and field, he's done everything for > our sport in a good way. > > "It's sad to not see him at the world championships running a 4x400 for the > last time. > > "That's just my opinion - that he should be able to run in the relay." > > The 33-year-old feels Johnson, the holder of the world records at 200m, 400m > and the 4x400m relay, has done enough for the sport in his country. > > "Let him run the world championships for one last time in the 4x400," he > pleaded. "He's competed, he's run well, he's done everything he needs to do > in our sport." > > Individual defending champions receive a bye to compete in their events in > the world championships - an idea the IAAF ironically thought up in 1997 > after Johnson himself had to miss the U.S. trials through injury. > > But earlier this year, USATF introduced a ruling to force world champions to > compete at the trials. The IAAF also adapted its rules so that such > automatic qualifiers would have to be entered by their respective national > federations. > > "Under current rules you need to participate at the U.S. national > championships in order to be selected for a relay championships," a > spokeswoman for USATF said last week. > > She added: "In order for a person with a bye to be entered in the world > championships, you need to either compete in some events - it doesn't matter > which - at the national championships or have a doctor's notice for injury > or if you get a waiver on other grounds." > > The USATF Board of Directors has since confirmed after a teleconference that > this ruling would be applied to relays. > > A spokesman said on Wednesday that a turnaround on the issue was not likely > to take place. > > Johnson, who is set to end his career at a meet in Japan in September, has > accepted the decision without complaint. > > Even if the 33-year-old Texan has competed in his last world championships > relay, the Goodwill Games later in August may yet see him anchoring an > American squad to another world record. > > The suggestion was met by a confident response from Pettigrew at a press > teleconference on Tuesday. > > United States' most reliable second-leg runner, who hopes to be on the team, > believes the 2:54.20 set in 1998 could be under threat. > > "It would be nice to have one last hoorah of going to Brisbane, Australia > and smashing the world record in the 4x400," said Pettigrew, who ran a > 43.2-second split when he teamed up with Jerome Young, Tyree Washington and > Johnson for the existing record. "I would love to." > > "I haven't talked to the other guys really about it, but I think it's > something that can be accomplished," he added. > > Pettigrew, who is 51 days Johnson's junior, intends to follow a similar > route into retirement next year to the one that the Olympic champion is > taking this season. > > After at the end of last year cons
t-and-f: THE BIG NIGHT...Stanford 10,000
WOW...what a fabulous 10,000 last night at Stanford. The weather at 9:15 could not have been more ideal. The small stadium ambiance, energized crowd and percussion section off the first turn made for the most exciting 10 that I've ever witnessed (including a rain soaked 27:18 by Barrios in Berlin, Virgin's AR 27:39 and the infamous Herb Lindsay/Craig Virgin duel at the '80 "Trials"). As hard as they went out (lots of 65s...unofficially 13:34 at halfway), I'd have anticipated a higher attrition rate in the final kilos. Kennedy hung on gamely to the orange singleted Kenyan clan over the first 5000...Meb immediately off his shoulder. Kennedy was gapped by 5-10 meters a number of times yet continued to reel the group back in. Somewhere near 6K, Kennedy was clearly off the group and for reasons unknown to me , pulled off the track, leaving a very aggressive Meb to respond to the intense surging up front. With about 2000 to go the leaders were lapping lots of guys (fast guys!!)...most of whom did not move out to lane 2...Meb was running way out in 2 through the turns, costing him a precious second or two for sure. When the leaders came trough at the bell at approximately 26 flat, the crowd was going wild...Meb about 11 or 12 seconds back. Chebii's acceleration with about 250 meters remaining was INTENSE!! I swear he must have run something like 25 point over the final 200. ...fastest time ever on US soil (eclipsing Geb's Atlanta Oly 27:07), a serious (nearly 7 second) AR, NRs for Canada and Japan...some significant PBs (i.e Culpepper)...all of this and more (i.e. Tim Broe's stadium record/17 second PR @ 5000 over Matt Lane)... not a bad little local all-comers meet. I'll go on the record saying that it lived up to the advance local press/internet hype...AND THEN SOME!!! See you in Eugene for HOOTIE 3.0 -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: PENN RELAYS DISTANCE RESULTS
...anyone with complete results from last Thursday evening's distance events at Penn?? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: KENNEDY 10K ATTEMPT!!!!!!!
RE: START TIME OF FRIDAY'S BIG 10,000!!good question, www.gostanford.com says the start time 9:15 pmAt 06:11 AM 4/30/01 -0700, you wrote: At what time is the 10???-MFMike FanelliSan Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialistprofessional representation of buyers and sellers[EMAIL PROTECTED]415.447.6254or visit my web site at:www.SFabode.com- Original Message -From: Geoff Thurner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:21 PMSubject: t-and-f: american men's 10k record in jeopardy at friday's cardinalinvite>> alert: all distance geeks - if you haven't heard, the american 10k will be> under assault this weekend in palo alto, so get your butt to stanford to> cheer them on (ps i talked to meb friday and he's planning on running,too)>>> >>> Kennedy to run 10k at Stanford>> Bob Kennedy, the American record holder at 5,000 meters, next month will> tackle the 10,000 meters for the first time since his debut at thisdistance> two years ago.>> Kennedy is entered in the 10,000 at the Cardinal Invitational on May 4,held> at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. It was on the Stanford trackin> 1999 that he ran 28:38.37 in his first and only attempt at the distance,and> his return to the 6.2-mile race has been highly anticipated ever since.> Kennedy has spoken openly about concentrating on the 10k this season andhis> desire to break Mark Nenow's American record of 27:20.56, set in 1986. His> fitness in 2001 is very sharp, according to Kennedy. Coming off of a> 12th-place finish in the 12k at the World Cross Country Championships in> March, his fitness has only improved.>> "Ever since World Cross, my workouts have gone to another level," said> Kennedy, who lives and trains in Indianapolis. "I haven't been as happywith> my fitness in the last three years as I am right now." Three years ago, in> 1998, Kennedy broke his own American record in the 3,000 with a time of> 7:30.84.>> He will by no means be running alone at Stanford. Other Americans expectedin> the race are Olympic 10,000 finalist Abdi Abdirahman, 10k Olympian Alan> Culpepper, and 5,000-meter Olympians Nick Rogers and Brad Hauser, amongother> top runners. A host of world-class Kenyan distance runners are entered as> well, including Luke Kipkosgei and Albert Chepkurui, both of whom have run> under 13 minutes for 5k.> >> Geoff Thurner> Assistant Director/Publications Coordinator> University of Oregon Media Services - Athletics> Len Casanova Center> 2727 Leo Harris Parkway> Eugene, OR 97401>> Phone: (541) 346-2250> Fax: (541) 346-5449> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.goducks.com>> GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!!> Geoff Thurner Assistant Director/Publications Coordinator University of Oregon Media Services - Athletics Len Casanova Center 2727 Leo Harris Parkway Eugene, OR 97401 Phone: (541) 346-2250 Fax: (541) 346-5449 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.goducks.com GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!!
Re: t-and-f: american men's 10k record in jeopardy at friday's cardinal invite
At what time is the 10??? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Geoff Thurner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: t-and-f: american men's 10k record in jeopardy at friday's cardinal invite > > alert: all distance geeks - if you haven't heard, the american 10k will be > under assault this weekend in palo alto, so get your butt to stanford to > cheer them on (ps i talked to meb friday and he's planning on running, too) > > > > > > Kennedy to run 10k at Stanford > > Bob Kennedy, the American record holder at 5,000 meters, next month will > tackle the 10,000 meters for the first time since his debut at this distance > two years ago. > > Kennedy is entered in the 10,000 at the Cardinal Invitational on May 4, held > at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. It was on the Stanford track in > 1999 that he ran 28:38.37 in his first and only attempt at the distance, and > his return to the 6.2-mile race has been highly anticipated ever since. > Kennedy has spoken openly about concentrating on the 10k this season and his > desire to break Mark Nenow's American record of 27:20.56, set in 1986. His > fitness in 2001 is very sharp, according to Kennedy. Coming off of a > 12th-place finish in the 12k at the World Cross Country Championships in > March, his fitness has only improved. > > "Ever since World Cross, my workouts have gone to another level," said > Kennedy, who lives and trains in Indianapolis. "I haven't been as happy with > my fitness in the last three years as I am right now." Three years ago, in > 1998, Kennedy broke his own American record in the 3,000 with a time of > 7:30.84. > > He will by no means be running alone at Stanford. Other Americans expected in > the race are Olympic 10,000 finalist Abdi Abdirahman, 10k Olympian Alan > Culpepper, and 5,000-meter Olympians Nick Rogers and Brad Hauser, among other > top runners. A host of world-class Kenyan distance runners are entered as > well, including Luke Kipkosgei and Albert Chepkurui, both of whom have run > under 13 minutes for 5k. > > > > > > > Geoff Thurner > Assistant Director/Publications Coordinator > University of Oregon Media Services - Athletics > Len Casanova Center > 2727 Leo Harris Parkway > Eugene, OR 97401 > > Phone: (541) 346-2250 > Fax: (541) 346-5449 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.goducks.com > > GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!! - GO DUCKS!! >
t-and-f: TOMMIE SMITH SELLING MEDAL
I read a brief blurb last week where Tommie Smith was selling his medal ('68
Oly 200)
at auction for $500,000...anybody know anything more about this...i.e where
it's being auctioned?? E-bay? Sotheby's??
"Article" went on to say that he's had it in a drawer for thirty yeras and
has only looked at it less than 15 times. Kinda weird...kinda sad.
-Mike
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t-and-f: ARCADIA RESULTS??
Anyone with Arcadia results?? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: STANFORD RESULTS??
Any Stanford Invite results?? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: Most indy NCAA Titles ever? (distance)
...and Suzy Favor (Hamilton)? I believe that sh has had the most NCAA titles by a woman and that it nearly rivals in number the feat of Mr Nyambui...yes, I realize that they were primarily in MIDDLE distances...anyone with an accurate Suzy NCAA count? -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: drew/armiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: malmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mcewen, Brian T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Most indy NCAA Titles ever? (distance) > i can verify that assertion. he won 7 indoor titles, 7 outdoor titles, and one cross title. > > --- "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >One would have to believe that Nyambui has the most titles, hands down. > > > > > >> > >> > >> Who won the most individual distance event titles in XC, indoor, > >> and outdoor > >> in NCAA history? > >> > >> Reason I ask is: Kimani is just a soph. and he already has a bunch (1 XC, > >> 2? -2000 indoor, 2 -2001 indoor) He stumbled outdoors last year ... but he > >> still has SEVEN seasons to run ... should he choose to. > >> > >> The all-time most titles would have to include: > >> > >> Steve Pre 7 ... + indoor? > >> Ed Eyestone 4? 5? > >> Lindgren LOTS? > >> Virgin :-( how many? > >> Salazar 2? 3? > >> > >> > >> > > == > "It is only in sorrow bad weather masters us; in joy we face the storm and defy it." > > Amelia Barr > > _ > Visit i-run.com and register for a $75 Road Runner Sports Gift Certificate - Monthly Drawing
t-and-f: "the prince"
Yo t&f lister types ...who is this "prince" guy... is he like a Mike Fox, the former mythical distance running figmentation of 67,000 posts ago, or, is this a legitimate athlete spokesperson with a chip on his shoulder (or possibly elsewhere)...re: sponsorship of athletes by a footwear company is concerned, know that the rules have changed very little...budgets are all that has changed...it always has been and always will be about visibility...either local or bigger picture, with dollars spent adjusted accordingly...re:medals, that is typically an athlete's bonus $$$ opportunity within a contract...the bottom line when determining who a footwear company should spend cash dolars on amounts to who can make an impact (i.e help a company at retail) within the above prescribed context. Mike (used to be Reebok Marketing Dept. running/ track & field promotions guy with mega dollars to spend on athlete/event promotions when Cap was still an assistant at KU...and could probably write a book on the topic...not Cap, the biz) Fanelli ******* Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: CREATING DISTANCE RUNNERS
1 - eliminate crybaby mentality 2 - train with a plan...there's a million ways to skin a cat...pick one and stick with it 3 - build racing around the training and not vice versa 4 - step on every starting line with a specific agenda...then execute, execute, execute 5 - make good decisions *** Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: WEBB vs WLLIS
Anyone have results re: New Balance HS 1 mile showdown between Kid Kiwi Willis vs Yankee Webb?? -MF * Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: Hayward Field seating -- East or West Grandstand?
West grandstands are finish line side...east are 1500 start and pole vault -MF Mike FanelliSan Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialistprofessional representation of buyers and sellers[EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254or visit my web site at:www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Louis Kuo To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: t-and-f: Hayward Field seating -- East or West Grandstand? I'm going to order tickets for the US Outdoor Champs and was wondering whether it's better to sit in the East or West Grandstand at Hayward Field for a good view of all the lanes for sprints. Louis
t-and-f: MALMO MUST STAY
...we have friends in New York who know where to find you Malmo...you are on the list for good...fuhgeddaboudit -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Tom Derderian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:30 PM Subject: t-and-f: Malmo condemned to the list > Never let Malmo off. He must dwell in the list of track and field all the > days of his life and live in the house of the list forever. > > TD > > - Original Message - > From: malmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:03 PM > Subject: t-and-f: NAKED PICTURES OF CRAIG MASBACK AND DENISE RICH > > > > > > PLEASE TAKE ME OFF OF THE DAMN LIST! > > > > What is it I have to do? Bring back the postmodernism and FLo-Jo > > threads? Don't test me -- I'll do it!!! > > > > I've pleaded with the list bot and the list supervisor and still > > no action. I've slandered people. I've used the list for commercial > > advertising. Profanity? I might lower my standards (right TJ?). > > > > > > I'LL EVEN PAY MONEY to be removed from the list. How much? (Before > > any of you send me a copy of the list charter, I've read it. > > The remove instructions in it are quite clear.) > > > > ...oh, I get it. Candid Camera! Where's the damn camera? It's > > in the plant, isn't it...no...it's hidden in the drop ceiling? > > You guys...that's funny!!! You're all in it!!! You really had > > me fooled! And not one of you leaked. Clever. > > > > OK.. NOW TAKE ME OFF THE DAMN LIST! > > > > REMOVE>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > > >
t-and-f: USA T&F CHAMPS TICKETS ON SALE!!!!!
Tickets for USA Nationals @ Eugene 6/21-24 have JUST (as of 9am) gone on sale...call ticketmaster @ 503 224 4400 or on line at ticketmaster.com Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: WHY DO YOU THINK....
RE: sitting at track meets, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL THEM STANDS?? (or as in the case of the 1500m start locale in Sacto, "GRANDstands" -MF *** Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: If you can't stand the heat...
don't you think we just got plain ass lucky with the weather??? ps - USATF Natls (Eugene '01) tix go on sale 3/1 (www.eugenechamps.com)...hotels are already tough to get...just (this eve) made some reservations at $85 at Best Western on Franklin 1/2 block from TrackTown Pizza...541-485-2727 Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Brian McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: T n F List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: t-and-f: If you can't stand the heat... > ...Get out of the stadium. > heat last summer are interested.> > As one of the nine fans (your math, not mine) who found the warm Sacramento > weather a delightful contrast to the frigid Bay Area summers, I scoff at > such complaints. The weather was one of the best things about the meet. I > agree with Darrell that the dust sucked, and they should also do something > about fencing people off while parading the athletes past. Unnecessary. > > Brian McGuire >
t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD & NOT SO GOOD
The good news is that the Trials will be back in Sacto in '04...the bad news is that the Trials are back in Sacto in '04. While I am pleased to have the Trials in my Northern California backyard and by most accounts, last year's meet was outstanding, the seating situation basically sucked. By this I mean that the seating was so jam packed that once you made it to your seat, you were stuck. Getting up for a "beverage" or pit stop was damn near impossible...am hoping that the seating and enter/exit procedures are improved down the road. -MF ***** Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: THE NAZI OLYMPICS
Keith Conning's mention of the Nazi Olympic exhibition in Chico, CA got me thinking: The Nazi Games are quite possibly the MOST historic of all Olympics. Certainly each quadrennial event has it's own special story/appeal...however, for a Berlin based Olympics to take place during that particular snapshot in time...whooaaa...the stage was set...the mustachioed Hitler versus Jesse O. (arguably the greatest athlete of the 20th Century). A number of years back I had the pleasure of attending the Berlin ISTAF Meet in the Oly Stadium of '36...lots of impressive memories...as a member of the press and friend of Arturo Barrios, I was there largely to cover the 10,000. Barrios had set the WR at this meet, exactly one year prior. On this partcular evening, the skies began dripping rain maybe 10 minutes prior to the 10 kilo aerobathon. Approximately 45 seconds after the starter's gun commenced this 25 lapper, the "summer shower" turned into a C-grade hurricane. As the meet officials signaled a mere 24 laps remaining, the Vegas bookies were paying big bucks to beat thirty minutes. Lap after lap, Mexican road star, Marcos Barreto leaned into the pounding wetness with Barrios tucked in nicely, immediatel off of his right clavicle. Just as relentless as the weather Barreto y Barrios hammered against the elements with the reigning world record holder scoring an unbelievable 27:18 performance...just 10 seconds shy of the (his) all-time best. Maybe my coolest remembrance came a bit earlier in the evening...I had a premonition that it'd be a special night upon departing my cab just behind the Oly Stadium. My driver must have seen "track geek' written all over me as he collected his fare at the intersection with the avenue signed "Jesse Owens Alee". regards, Mike Fanelli - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: t-and-f: THE NAZI OLYMPICS Berlin 1936 CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, CHICO Presents THE NAZI OLYMPICS Berlin 1936 An engrossing exploration of the Nazification of the 1936 Olympics Open from January 30, 2001 through March 29, 2001 Free to the public Exhibit hours: Monday through Thursday, 9am - 7pm, Friday, 9am - 3pm; Saturday, 11am-5pm; closed Sunday Location: Colusa Hall, CSU, Chico campus, near the Rose Garden The exhibit is self-guided. Docent-led group tours are available. For group reservation, contact 530-898-5749 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Supported in part by funding from The City of Chico; CSU, Chico; Building Bridges; CSU, Chico Associated Students; Chico Area Interfaith Council; CSUC Modern Jewish & Israel Studies Program This exhibit is organized & circulated by the United State Holocaust Memorial Museum. I drove 120 miles from Vacaville to Chico to see the exhibit today. It was well worth the 240 mile round trip. There is alot of track content in the exhibit including interviews with Marty Glickman, who was taken off the 4x100 relay team; Milton Green (Harvard), who boycotted the Games; John Woodruff, the 800 meter champion; and Gretel Bergmann, a German Jewish high jump star, who was not allowed to compete for the German team. It has a large section on African Americans in the Games. Archie Williams, from the University of California, Berkeley, won the 400-meter race with a mark of 46.5 seconds. During World War II, he served as an instructor for Black fighter pilots at the segregated army airfield in Tuskegee, Alabama. The exhibit will next go to New York and then to Salt Lake City for the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. If you live in Northern California, I recommend that you see it. Keith Conning Vacaville, CA
Re: Fw: t-and-f: Devil Take the Hindmost
...any guesses as to who might have been in that devil costume? Know that one of them is a list member! MF ** Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Fw: t-and-f: Devil Take the Hindmost > The previous posts left out the best part of the "Devil" races. I never saw > one in person, but I do remember seeing a picture of a guy dressed like the > devil, carrying a pitchfork he used to gently tell the last runner on each > lap to get off the track. > > Walt Murphy
Re: t-and-f: VINCE CARTIER AND KEVIN BYRNE
Cartier went to Florida if I'm not mistaken Mike FanelliSan Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialistprofessional representation of buyers and sellers[EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254or visit my web site at:www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: t-and-f: VINCE CARTIER AND KEVIN BYRNE Where did Vince Cartier and Kevin Byrne go to college? Keith Conning Vacaville, CA Men's All-Time High School Indoor Mile List 3:59.86e Alan Webb (South Lakes, VA) 2001 (Michigan 2005) 4:02.7c Thom Hunt (Henry, San Diego, CA) 1976 (Feb. 1, San Diego) (Arizona) 4:06.6d Vince Cartier (Scotch Plains-Fanwood, Scotch Plains, NJ) 1972 4:07.10c Michael Stember (Jesuit, Carmichael, CA) 1996 (Stanford 2001) 4:07.12e Jonathon Riley (Brookline, MA) 1997 (Stanford 2001) 4:07.2d Jim Ryun (East, Wichita, KS) 1965 (Kansas) 4:07.34c *Andy Powell (Oliver Ames, North Easton, MA) 1998 (Stanford 2003) 4:07.61d John Trautman (Monroe-Woodbury, Central Valley, NY) 1986 (Georgetown) 4:07.69d Reuben Reina (John Jay, San Antonio, TX) 1986 (Arkansas 1990) 4:07.87d *Webb 2000 4:08.0c Kevin Byrne (Catholic, Paramus, NJ) 1977 Source: High School Track 2001 by Jack Shepard
t-and-f: PERFORMANCE OF THE WEEK 2.0
Based on the performances of this past weekend, it looks like our track season has finally gotten it's "official" start...so has the new and totally unimproved version PERFORMANCE OF THE WEEK 2.0 1. Marty Post...for his impressive statistical contribution, the all comprehensive American sub 4 minute mile list (all 237 of them) @ http://www.runnersworld.com/stats/mileusa.html 2. Alan Webb's 3rd place 3:59.86 first HS (USA) sub 4 since Liquori '67...first ever undercover 3. Nathan Leeper's PR 7'73/4" season opener 4. Amy Rudolph's PR romp at New Balance mile 4:28.47 5. Kiwi Kid Willis (not a rap star)...4:01.32 at age 17..Cook's Garden Classic, Wanganui, NZ NOTABLE: * 43 year old Andrey Kuznetsov wins San Diego Marathon in 2:17 * blast from the past (and now 43) Art Boileau runs 2:37 at same *another old man (40+) Fedor Ryjov wins Bermuda Marathon in a very good 2:21:18 MY FAVORITE NEW NAME TO SAY: Eyagayou Diababa (ETH) 3rd at Muguerza Memorial XC (Esp) Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
Re: t-and-f: Relay Dream Teams
1Houston McTear 2 Jean Louis Ravelmanatsoa 3 Mel Pender 4 Dr. Delano Merriwether ps- spell check was useless with these names...sorry if I butchered them! ** Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: Buck Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: T&F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Relay Dream Teams > I'd have to go with: > 4x1 > 1 - Bob Hayes > 2 - Maurice Greene > 3 - Donovan Bailey > 4 - Carl Lewis > > I just don't see how you could leave Lewis out of this. He was my first > pick by a long, long way. About the only question I had was who to run on > the curves. If it weren't that Bailey proved he could run a great curve > (ask MJ...) I would sub Ato or Frankie for the third spot. Perhaps start > Maurice and put Hayes on the back stretch, but I don't know that Mo' is the > best starter in the world. He certainly can run a good corner, though so > maybe put hime third and Bailey 1st. Linford Christie and Leroy Burrell > certainly have some claim to a dream team as well (and I'm surely showing my > age biases). > How about the team above against: > 1 - Leroy Burrell > 2 - Ato Bolden > 3 - Frankie Fredricks > 4 - Ato Bolden > Whooowhee...! > > For 4 x 4, > 1 - Butch Reynolds > 2 - Quincy Watts > 3 - Steve Lewis > 4 - Michael Johnson > That seems much easier to grok than the 4x1. I like Reynolds over Everett, > but I might take Everett over Lewis... > Race that team against: > 1 - Danny Everett (what the hey, he's got the LR, 'leg record') > 2 - Roger Black (in a relay, this guy could hang with anybody) > 3 - Alberto Juantorena (If he had the lead, nobody could get around him) > 4 - Lee Evans > As much as I enjoyed coming up with the second team, I'd bet every nickle I > have on the first team against the second, or for that matter any other team > anybody thinks up. > Cheers, > Buck > > > -Original Message- > From: Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: T&FMail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:05 AM > Subject: t-and-f: Relay Dream Teams > > > All the talk yesterday about relay legs gave rise to the following thought > ... If I could put together any foursome in the 4 x 1 and 4 x 4 who would > it be ??? Here's what I would consider to be Dream Teams in the relays .. > Any better ?? > > 4x1 > > 1- Jon Drummond > 2- Ron Brown > 3 - Calvin Smith > 4- Bob Hayes > > > > 4x4 > > 1- Danny Everett > 2 - Quincy Watts > 3 - Steve Lewis > 4 - Michael Johnson > > Conway Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
t-and-f: DGS vs RNORTHAM
I'm thinkin that this battle is a mere skirmish...child's play in comparison to last year's Rohl vs Fanelli! -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my website at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: Re: Predictions/Wish list FEEDBACK!
...just returned from a not quite long enough holiday sojourn and picked up the attached message re: X MAS wish list...gotta tell you, I truly cracked up over the race walking thing...while AC's message was more than a bit out there in left field, I must warn, P.O.W. (performance of the week, a shit disturber indeed) may well rear it's gnarly head once again in 2001!! Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 3:44 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Predictions/Wish list > D W I G H T will make a triumphant return to the list. > > GH will send ONE email to the list that won't make people ponder his insanity. > > Upon further review, Daryl realizes that every single email sent to the list > is not a personal attack of sprinting and HSI. > > In a surprising twist of faith, Mike Fanelli turns to race walking setting up > a clash of the titans battle between himself and Michael Rohl for the last > spot on the 2004 Olympic team. > > In a BIZARRE twist of fate, Conway Hill turns out to be none other than > current 400 record holder Marita Koch. Strange indeed. > > But seriously folks... > Repeat for Stanford? > American Distance Runners making a comeback? > High School Sub Four Minute Miler? > High School Sub 8:40 32...errr...2 mile? > Distance runners racing distance runners...instead of chasing rabbits and > time. > ...what a concept. Actual competition! > > Peace and love to all. > AC
t-and-f: PILKINGTON AT FOOTLOCKER
FYI, 6th placer at today's Footlocker (scroll down to see results below) is the son of US marathoner Paul Pilkington. In speaking with Paul at last month's NYC Marathon, he said that coaching and running with his son is really the only reason that he continues to race today at the ripe old age of 40+. Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my website at: www.SFabode.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: t-and-f: Foot Locker Boys Results > Warm! - Rita 4:47 - 4:33 (9:20 yikes!!) - 14:05 (he was totally broken away > then) > below winning time - Webb tried to go with Dathan, but eventually lost chase > and Hall closed down on him a bit > Great close to prep CC season > Doug Speck > > Foot Locker Cross Country Championships > 2000 National Finals > Boys Results > December 9, 2000 > Oak Trail - Shades of Green > Walt Disney World Resort > > 5.00 Kilometers > Scoring Teams and Points: > 1. West 30 (3 5 6 7 9 20 22 23) > 2. South 48 (2 10 11 12 13 16 25 27) > 3. Midwest 56 (1 8 14 15 18 19 24 30) > 4. Northeast 96 (4 17 21 26 28 29 31 32) > 1 Dathan Ritzenhein (12) Midwest Rockford H.S. Rockford MI 14:35 > 2 Alan Webb (12) South South Lakes H.S. Reston VA 14:55 > 3 Ryan Hall (12) West Big Bear H.S. Big Bear Lake CA 14:59 > 4 Charlie Millioen (12) Northeast St. Anthony's H.S. Bl Pt NY 15:05 > 5 Erik Heinonen (12) West South Eugene H.S. Eugene OR 15:07 > 6 Seth Pilkington (12) West Roy H.S. Roy UT 15:09 > 7 Chandler Goodwin (12) West Mountain View H.S. Pleasant Grove UT 15:13 > 8 Timothy Moore (11) Midwest Novi H.S. Novi MI 15:13 > 9 Seth Watkins (12) West Flathead H.S. Kalispell MT 15:16 > 10 Bobby Curtis (10) South Saint Xavier H.S. Louisville KY 15:16 > 11 Rod Koborsi (12) South Jersey Village H.S. Houston TX 15:16 > 12 Joe Thorne (11) South Lakeside H.S. Chamblee GA 15:17 > 13 Bobby Lockhart (11) South John Handley H.S. Winchester VA 15:17 > 14 Dan Glaz (12) Midwest A.A. Stagg H.S. Palos Hills IL 15:19 > 15 Matt Esche (12) Midwest Waukesha West H.S. Waukesha WI 15:21 > 16 Mike Swope (12) South Winter Park H.S. Winter Park FL 15:30 > 17 Brian McGovern (12) Northeast Fairfield Preparatory Newtown CT 15:31 > 18 Aaron Fisher (12) Midwest Franklin Central H.S. IndianapIN 15:32 > 19 Erik Grumstrup (12) Midwest Rapid City Stevens H.S. Bl Hawk SD 15:32 > 20 David Vidal (12) West Flathead H.S. Kalispell MT 15:33 > 21 Peter Meindl (11) Northeast Orchard Park H.S. Orchard Park NY 15:38 > 22 Brett Gotcher (11) West Aptos H.S. Watsonville CA 15:40 > 23 Michael Kiter (12) West Shadle Park H.S. Spokane WA 15:41 > 24 Sean Moore (12) Midwest Saline H.S. Saline MI 15:43 > 25 Westly Keating (12) South PSJA North H.S. Pharr TX 15:45 > 26 Mint Henk (11) Northeast Union-32 H.S. Braintree VT 15:47 > 27 Steve Maddox (12) South The Colony H.S. The Colony TX 15:48 > 28 Seton McAndrews (12) Northeast Queensbury H.S. Queensbury NY 15:56 > 29 Justin Romaniuk (12) Northeast Suffern H.S. Suffern NY 15:57 > 30 Jason Sandfort (12) Midwest West Plains H.S. West Plains MO 16:00 > 31 Patrick Bensen (12) Northeast Deerfield Academy Greenfield MA 16:02 > 32 Brendan Fennell (10) Northeast Pearl River H.S. Pearl River NY 16:38 >
t-and-f: T&F HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
Attached is a great piece from this morning's San Francisco Chronicle by John Crumpacker (my favorite t&f journalist) regarding yesterday's induction into the T&F Hall of Fame. ps - The passing of Tupp is a sad one...a truly fine gentleman indeed...while I currently reside in CA, my Philly area track and field upbringing would not have been the same without mentors/friends like Jim Tuppeny and Browning Ross. Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my website at: www.SFabode.com -- November 30, 2000 (SF Chronicle) TRACK AND FIELD/Seidler's Shot Lands In Track Hall of Fame John Crumpacker Describing herself as "a darn big girl," Maren Seidler competed in her first track meet as an 11-year-old in what would be the start of a long career as a shotputter. Now 49, she was selected yesterday to the National Track & Field Hall of Fame along with three others, bringing the membership total to 184 at the Hall, housed in the RCA Dome in Indianapolis. "It has an enormous amount of meaning," said Seidler, a longtime San Jose resident who moved to Tucson, Ariz., several years ago. "I got a little weepy, which is easy for me to do. It's very sweet." Also chosen to track's Hall of Fame were former Oregon coach Bill Dellinger, 66; Olympic sprinter Chandra Cheeseborough, 41; and 1976 Olympic long jump champion Arnie Robinson, 52. The four will be formally inducted into the Hall of Fame on Saturday night in conjunction with USA Track & Field's annual meeting in Albuquerque, N.M. Seidler, a graduate of Tufts University, lived for many years in San Jose while competing and after her retirement in 1980. She was a member of four Olympic teams (1968, '72, '76 and the '80 team that was part of the United States' boycott of the Olympics in Moscow). She also was the first American woman to put the shot more than 60 feet. She won 23 national titles and retired with a best effort of 62 feet, 7 3/4 inches. "They just couldn't get rid of me for a long time," Seidler said. "I came to the shot early. It was a happy marriage of my athletic ability and the event." After retiring, Seidler started a silk-screen T-shirt business in San Jose and counted the Santa Clara-based 49ers as one of her steady customers. Now in Tucson, she retains the business. While track and field is a largely corporate sport today, when Robinson competed there was still room for creativity and whimsy. To honor his hometown, he created one of the greatest names for a track club ever: The San Diego Southwest Ghetto Striders. "I just created it out of fun," he said. "It wasn't a club. I was the only one on it." Robinson won the bronze medal in the long jump at the 1972 Olympics, when he was ranked No. 1 in the world. He returned four years later and won the gold medal he believes he should have had in '72. "I was chasing too many girls around," he said. "I went there to have a good time and I lost focus. It's a sore point." Cheeseborough made the '76 Olympic team as a high school athlete from Jacksonville, Fla. She returned in '84 as a mature competitor and won a silver medal in the 200 meters and golds in the 4x100 and 4x400 relays. She's now head track and cross country coach at her alma mater, Tennessee State. Dellinger, who retired in 1999, coached the Ducks to the 1984 NCAA track championship and also won four cross country titles. As an athlete, he won the bronze medal in the 5,000 meters in the 1964 Tokyo Olympics. He is currently recovering from a stroke. -- Copyright 2000 SF Chronicle
t-and-f: REWARD!! (FOR SHOE HELP)
I am in desparate search for the (now discontinued) Adidas Boston style number 663605 size 10 color: white w/ navy trim, black stripes REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD REWARD - Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.457.7536
t-and-f: A MUST DO!!!!!
Hey tracksters, If you go to http://health.yahoo.com/ and click on the PINK RIBBON, Yahoo will donate $1.00 to the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. Spread the word. -Mike Fanelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: John Walker memories
While I was a huge fan of the long haired, barrel chested miler and his always ballsy racing style, I am forever indebted to him for the shoe named after him...the Brooks John Walker RT1...it totally chewed the hell out of my feet but carried me to a then (1979) breakthrough marathon performance of 2:26 on the tough old San Francisco Marathon course...a huge improvement in which I explained away as being "the shoes" -Mike - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 5:10 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: John Walker memories > In a message dated Mon, 23 Oct 2000 5:52:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bruce > Goodchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > << > Probably my greatest memory of John Walker was the > summer of '75, when I was touring around southern > England on my bicycle, sitting in a coffee shop > in London, opening up the Times of London, and > seeing that great picture of Walker crossing the > finish line, the first man under 3:49, his > blonde hair blowing in the wind (Stockholm, I > think). > > Bruce Goodchild > Cambridge/Boston. > > > > Walker set the mile record in Göteborg (Gothenburg). > sideshow
Re: t-and-f: ALL TIME FAVOTITE ARTICLES??
OF COURSE!!! Kenny Moore!! Man, he wrote some GREAT stuff...I'll always remember his piece in SI about the stage race around Hawaii and the one he did on Mamo Wolde where he went and visited him in prison...whoa, heavy stuff. -Mike - Original Message - From: Bruce Glikin To: mike fanelli ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: ALL TIME FAVOTITE ARTICLES?? Kenny Moore wrote an article for Sports Illustrated back in the 70's that still haunts me with its beauty. Sorry, but my failing memory can't recall the date. It was sometime after the Munich Olympics, and likely before Montreal. The title was "An Enigma Wrapped In Glory", the author, Kenny Moore. The subject was Lasse Viren, and it painted a flawless portrait of a shy man's quiet life in Finland, and his ensuing triumphs in track and field. Moore is a fine wordsmith, great storyteller, and most certainly knows his subject matter. I assume there's Irish blood running in his veins. And like the endless list of great Irish writers both past and present, he has that special gift of giving life to words on paper. I wish he'd write a running novel. There's little doubt in my mind that he'd shame the rest of us who have attempted the same. Bruce Glikin/author/'Slinger Sanchez Running Gun' http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966345800 At 10:09 PM 10/19/00 -0700, mike fanelli wrote: Having just finished re-reading the NY Times article by Mike Wise (9/17/00)which I had submitted to the Track and Field Writer's of America (TAFWA)newsletter, I realize that it is most certainly amongst my all timefavorites. It is entitled "The Third man in Mexico City" and is about PeterNorman...the Australian 200 meter silver medalist...right up there on themedal podium with Tommie Smith and John Carlos in '68.Others on that list include Ken Kesey's coverage (Running Magazine) of the1980 Olympic Track and Field Trials as well as Hunter S. Thompson's versionof the Honolulu Marathon...you know, the one where he continually refers toeventual winner, Duncan MacDonald, as "Drunken McDeviate"On the more serious side, an article from 8?/85 Runner's World on optimaltraining paces passes as my single favorite, most right-on, comprehensivelong distance training overview...along with just about anything that PetePfitzinger writes in Running Times these days.What are your favorite articles...and why??-Mike Fanelli
t-and-f: ALL TIME FAVOTITE ARTICLES??
Having just finished re-reading the NY Times article by Mike Wise (9/17/00) which I had submitted to the Track and Field Writer's of America (TAFWA) newsletter, I realize that it is most certainly amongst my all time favorites. It is entitled "The Third man in Mexico City" and is about Peter Norman...the Australian 200 meter silver medalist...right up there on the medal podium with Tommie Smith and John Carlos in '68. Others on that list include Ken Kesey's coverage (Running Magazine) of the 1980 Olympic Track and Field Trials as well as Hunter S. Thompson's version of the Honolulu Marathon...you know, the one where he continually refers to eventual winner, Duncan MacDonald, as "Drunken McDeviate" On the more serious side, an article from 8?/85 Runner's World on optimal training paces passes as my single favorite, most right-on, comprehensive long distance training overview...along with just about anything that Pete Pfitzinger writes in Running Times these days. What are your favorite articles...and why?? -Mike Fanelli
t-and-f: POST-SYDNEY USA MEET!!!!!
T&F Listmembers, Attached please find pertinent info on one of our nation's PREMIERE track and field competitions. best regards, -Mike Fanelli From: Don Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mike fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:54 PM > Contact Don Franken (310) 535-9230 > > First Major U.S. Track Meet after the Sydney Olympics > > 41st L.A. Invitational Indoor Set January 20 > > The 41st Los Angeles Invitational indoor track meet, the nation's > second oldest indoor track meet and the oldest event in L.A. bearing the > name of the city, will take place Saturday, January 20, 2001, on the newly > refurbished track at the Los Angeles Sports Arena. The L.A. Invitational > will be the first major track meet held in the U.S. after the Sydney > Olympics. > > The L.A. Invitational will features world class athletes including > Olympic medalists fresh from the Sydney Games. Joining the elite > competitors will be talented collegiate athletes from powerhouse colleges > such as UCLA, Stanford, USC, Arizona, etc. The L.A. Invitational is also > one of the great high school competitions in the nation, showcasing nearly > 2000 athletes from 500 Southland schools along with top talent from > throughout the state and the country. > > "We have moved the meet back to its January date to launch the > indoor season," said meet founder and Co-Chairman Al Franken. "There is > added excitement this year, as we host the first major U.S. meet following > the Sydney Olympics." > > Over the years, such Hall of Famers as Wilma Rudolph, Rafer > Johnson, Bob Seagren, Parry O'Brien, Jim Ryun, Kip Keino, Carl Lewis, Steve > Scott, Eamonn Coghlan, Henry Rono, Bob Hayes, Noureddine Morceli, Renaldo > Nehemiah, Randy Barnes, Randy Matson, Evelyn Ashford, Jackie Joyner Kersee, > Gail Devers, and dozens more have trod the Sports Arena board. > > "We anticipate fast times on the newly refurbished Sports Arena > track," said meet Co-Chairman Don Franken. "The L.A. Invitational has > produced a plethora of world and U.S. records over the years, the last a > 5.65 50-meter mark by Maurice Greene in 1999, which tied the world record. > This tradition of excellence will continue." > > For meet information call (310) 535-9230 or visit the meet's web > site atwww.frankenenterprises.com > ### > > >
Fw: t-and-f: SUB 4 Father/Son
OF course!!! What a blatant oversight! Was Martin Kip's actual son by blood or one of the dozens of children that he had adopted? Mike - Original Message - From: Don Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mike fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: SUB 4 Father/Son > Don't forget Kip and Martin Keino---best combined father son, mile > times...and other son Bob had the potential but not the desire to do this. > Best regards, Don- > >
t-and-f: SUB 4 Father/Son
...what about the Lunn's (John and Jason)...and watch out for the Bairs. Sam and his now soph son who ran 1:56 last year as a frosh at the Pennsylvania State meet...the Clarkes of Ausralia? the Powers (Arkansas kid and his dad?) - Original Message - From: Dale Winling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:14 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: What's the deal?!/XC > Somewhat related to Saturday's Pre-Nats. In the B race, William and > Mary's Todd Swenson showed himself to be in better shape than last fall, > leading contemplative minds to think of the upcoming track season. I > believe Todd has run in the 4:0_s for the mile. Bearing in mind that he > was sired by Ken Swenson, would this duo be the first father/son sub-4:00? > > > The Dude abides. > > Dale >
t-and-f: PRE- NCAA XC UNDERCLASSMEN/WOMEN
WOW!!! A handful of frosh and soph athletes made quite a splash at this weekend's pre-NCAA XC invite held in Ames, Iowa this past Saturday. In the men's race, CO soph, Jorge Torres won by 17 SECONDS as soph teamate, Steve Slattery nailed down 6th, holding off number one frosh finisher, Louie Luchini, (Stanford) in 8th and Gtown soph, Mike Smith in 9th. On the distaff side, Shalane Flanagan (NC) nabbed a 3rd place popsicle stick behind senior winner Kara Wheeler, and just ahead of Amy Motimer (KSU soph) in 4th with, Tuula Laitnen (Toledo frosh) in 5th??? (who she be? another flying Finn?) Regardless, the collegiate XC season is off with a bang and I typically dig checkin on the frosh/soph transition from high school...it often tells a story about our new distance talent developments to be. Mike Fanelli
t-and-f: NASTY CAUCASIAN HETEROSEXUAL
How about abbreviating Angry White Lesbians to A.W.L or something
thereabouts...gotta say that as a title for a track and field thread, it
bugs me...maybe if we were all a bunch of homophobic 16 year olds it'd be a
great tag line.
one nasty caucasian heterosexual,
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Roger Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: A change
> Earlier today, Dave Cohen wrote,
>
> >Do you think the subject heading "Angry White Lesbians" can be changed,
so I
> >dont continually think its another porno site advertisement
> >
> >If someone already requested this, please forgive me!
>
> With all respect to Dave's good intentions, I'd have to disagree: If you
> change the subject heading, there's no way for us to know it's an item to
> automatically delete without reading.
>
> I can't remember another thread on this list that attracted so many posts
> for a topic so little related to track and field. As far as I can tell,
the
> only remote association is that the advertiser, Nike, makes track shoes
and
> one of the actors is a sometime track athlete. I thought Nike's ads of a
> few years back, featuring Michael Johnson in a group counseling setting,
> had the same two features of relevance and were far more interestingly
> written. Besides, MJ showed that he could perform pretty well as an actor.
> Not bad as an athlete, either.
>
> Michael Cunningham, in a subsequent post ("What's the deal?!) said it all:
> "Let's get off the whole Nike commercial thing and move on.
>
> Cheers
>
>
Re: t-and-f: Get off of Gail Devers!!!
WWWwwhhhoooaa Howardlet it ALL hang out. I'm with you as it relates to the rampant speculation/negativity in this forum..bunch of amateur private investigators pleading their cases with little or no substance...finding every single angle possible to castigate at a moment's notice...semantics, rumor, hyperbole...all the necessary crap to besmirch. What's it gonna take to create a forum whereby people report on fact (vs. their own personal black hole fictions)and take a glass half full approach to commenting publicly on our sport...FACTS that are exciting and keep us vitally interested...amen. -Mike - Original Message - From: howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:37 PM Subject: t-and-f: Get off of Gail Devers!!! > I can't believe you all can sit here and say that kind of stuff about Gail. > What kind of shit is that. If you all were listing, you would know that she > (Gail) said that she pulled up when she started to feel it (her hamstring) > pull more. So she DIDN'T pull up with a big-time injury. Some of you all > just jump on the band-wagon and actually believe that she tested positive > for something. C'mon!! This drug thing is really getting on my nerves. An > athlete pulls out of something and suddenly they're on drugs. And whoever > said that Gail pulled out for money is flat-out wrong. Don't you think she > is living quite comfortably by now? She is probably one of the richest track > athletes out there. She does have three gold medals and a career that > stretches as far back as 1988. I hope she would have something (money) by > now. Just had to get this of my chest. >
Re: t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA
depends on which track geek realtor he has on the case (hint, hint...you listenin MJ?) - Mike - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA > > In a message dated 10/6/00 11:50:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Johnson's Dallas home is on the market for > $1.4M >> > > Let's see, for $1.4M he could get, what, a 2 BR 1.5 BA in Bay Area, right? > > Jim Gerweck > Running Times
t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA
As a real estate professional, I couldn't help but notice in this morning's Wall Street Journal that Michael Johnson's Dallas home is on the market for $1.4M...the blurb featuring his home sale goes on to say that he and his wife will be moving right here to Marin County (immediately across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco)...well, there goes the neighborhood!!! ...wondering if the old man needs a track geek real estate broker??? -Mike Fanelli
Re: t-and-f: Pseudo-Scientific Facts for Suzy
WHOA Kurt While I may not be in complete agreement with Jim Hunt's take on the Suzy factor, please know that Jim is one of the most reputable distance coaches ever in the USA...In his many years as head coach at Humboldt State University and also at UC Davis, Jim has been responsible for the fitness of many many a champion...including 1988 Olympic Trials winner Mark Conover (remember, Danny Grimes, Suzy Jones, Mark Covert, Gary Tuttle...) At the track trials in Sacto this past summer we staged a coach's clinic with the likes of Hunt, Frank Gagliano, Joe Vigil, Bob Sevene, Lance Harter and Irv Ray...quite an impressive bunch...some of the absolute BEST commentary from that clinic came from Jim...before we totally dismiss Jim's theory as to the demise of Suzy, let's make sure that we understand that he is NOT not some old dude smoking crack on a street corner in Biloxi...he truly "gets" exercise phys and it's practical application to the middle and long distance running athlete. best always, Mike Fanelli (who in his days as an "athlete" got whupped on pretty badly by Hunt's boys) - Original Message - From: Kurt Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Pseudo-Scientific Facts for Suzy > Let's see, Suzy lost because: > > 1. Complete depletion of glycogen > 2. Dehydration > 3. Heart rate soared to unspecified record levels > 4. Body temperature soared to 105 or 106 degrees > 5. Panic > 6. Traumatic shock > 7. Vascular collapse > 8. Lack of oxygen > > Anything else? A massive heart attack maybe? A sudden case of fulminant > cancer? One of her legs fall off? Maybe her central nervous system went > into total protective mode and ordered immediate and permanent paraplegia. > > But not to worry. Suzy's not in any kind of real trouble. Her newly > vigilant central nervous system has it under control and will prevent her > from ever running very fast again. > > I don't know who Jim Hunt is, but he's wasting his time being a running > coach. He should be teaching at a major medical school. Anyone who can > diagnose no fewer than eight ailments merely from watching someone fall down > is blessed with amazing medical powers. > > Kurt Bray > > > >This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American Long Distance > >Running Coach -- > > > > > >From "Dr. Hunt!" Bill, you asked for it. Suzy Favor Hamilton collapsed in > >the finals of the Olympic 1500 due to complete glycogen depletion. > > Suzy does not possess the basic speed that some of the other > >competitors > >possess. In order to run as fast as she was attempting to do, she had to > >run > >at a > >velocity that was too high of a percentage of her basic performance speed > >for > >too long. The glycogen demanded by her muscles to do the work that the > >brain > >was commanding of them was completely depleted. > > As to the dehydration effect, it takes 4 lb. of water to produce 1 lb. > >of > >glycogen. Oxygen must mix with glycogen in order to produce energy. > >Glycogen is stored in the liver, muscle cells and blood stream and must > >receive oxygen in the amount > >demanded by the working muscles to continue to work at a desired level. > > When stored glycogen is depleted, the body will attempt to make more. > >The > >process of making glycogen requires a large quantity of water which would > >lead to further dehydration. > > In addition to the depletion of fluid, her body could not deliver > >sufficient oxygen to produce the muscular contractions that her central > >nervous system was commanding. Suzy could not extract enough oxygen from > >the > >air and deliver it to the working muscles in the amount necessary to be > >able > >to continue with the high rate of velocity that she needed to run. > > In Suzy's attempt to run for 4:00 at a velocity of 6.25 meters per > >second, complicated by the lack of body fluids, her heart rate soared to a > >new maximum causing her body temperature to rise to possibly as high as 105 > >degrees-106 degrees. Her body's cooling system was not prepared to > >dissipate > >this much heat. This high temperature coupled with the panic of seeing her > >competitors fly by her caused her body to go into traumatic shock. > >Traumatic > >shock causes the large arteries to expand, literally robbing the working > >muscles and the brain of oxygen carrying blood. > > When traumatic shock occurs, the mechanisms causes the body to go
