[OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Concepcion, Chile

2010-03-01 Thread nicolas chavent 
Dear Julio and all-

This is a sound resource that the Cleveland Delta States University already
provided for Haiti and is now putting up for Haiti, I am short of time and
can not put up in the wiki myself, nice if grateful if someone can take care
of this. Ideal as well if OSM Chile can work jointly with Talbot Brook cc-ed
on this email to assist in further versions

Best
N

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Date: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:14 AM
Subject: [CrisisMappers] Concepcion, Chile
To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com


 All – I know there’s a new thread rolling for Chile, I just can’t find it –
please let me know where I need to re-post the following:



Please find the first draft version of a 8.5 x 11" (or A4 ISO page size)
1:25,000 street atlas for Concepcion, Chile at the link provided below.
Data is courtesy of OpenStreetMap.  We would welcome additional (but
reasonable) requests, comments, and feedback.  We've used some new
compression techniques that squeeze the entire atlas down to 0.8MB in size.
Just in case that's still too large, we've still made each page individually
available.  Total number of 1:25,000 pages is 22.



http://mississippi.deltastate.edu/data/Chile/Concepcion_Chile_25Kscale_8511A4size_Geopdf_Street_Atlas_vDSU20100301/



As for MGRS grid data, we've completed it and posted it to:



http://mississippi.deltastate.edu/data/Chile/MGRS_Data/



You'll note we've gone ahead and created 100-m polygon data in preparation
for 1:6,000 atlas products should decent imagery become available in a
format we can use.





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Delta State University

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[OSM-talk] announcing Humanitarian OSM Team mailing list

2010-03-01 Thread Mikel Maron 

The Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team now has a mailing list.

  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

During crisis, the HOT list supports coordination among the OSM community, 
along side appropriate local country lists, and the talk/dev lists when needed. 
It is the point where disaster responders and affected people can connect 
directly to members of the OSM community ready to help. In quieter times, the 
list helps HOT to prepare resources and improve its response.

Note that talk/dev are still good for mobilizing the wide community to a HOT 
activation, but details of the response can for the most part safely move into 
this list once we get critical mass of subscribers.

Please join if you are interested in helping HOT, or need HOT services. Thanks!

 
Mikel

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

2010-03-01 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli 
Dear Nicolas,

Right now I am writing a message to Cecilia Diaz from ONEMI (the technical
contact mentioned at the UN page). I will explain her everything about what
we are doing and how they can benefit of it.

Cheers,

Julio Costa



On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:59 PM, nicolas chavent
wrote:

> Dear Julio and all-
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>
>>  Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you
>> understand)
>>
>> David writes:
>>
>> "Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use
>> in Chile as well. "
>>
>> My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely
>> include tracing by OSM.
>> (But no specific imagery is mentioned)
>>
>> It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources) for
>> clarification, and also how the source image would be available.
>>
>
> Agree this still needs to be clarified-
>
>>
>>
>> Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly be
>> a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and
>> guidance"). I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at:
>>
>>
>> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
>>
>
> If not already done, it's fundamental to push the OSM data into the hands
> of those entities, the way it has been pushed in the hands of international
> responding entities and then explore the potential for wider cooperation-
>
>
>>
>> I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the
>> international community. This would be a way people from abroad could
>> contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort you
>> are organising.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>
>
>
> Best
> Nicolas.
>
>
>>
>> Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit :
>>
>> (In English after the break...)
>>
>> Estimado Jean-Guilhem,
>>
>> En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo claro
>> con la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la liberación de
>> la licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén disponibles?
>> (Obviamente la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received
>> the same attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)
>>
>> El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta
>> resolución es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de todos
>> los pueblos de la zona afectada.
>>
>> Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Julio Costa
>> OpenStreetMap Chile
>> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>>
>> ##ENGLISH##
>>
>> Dear Jean-Guilhem,
>>
>> In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids
>> response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license once
>> their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters since
>> Haiti and none of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti"
>> concerns me)
>>
>> The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery is
>> quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.
>>
>> Thank you all for your help and cooperation.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Julio Costa
>> OpenStreetMap Chile
>> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>>
>>> Hola,
>>>
>>> Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
>>> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
>>> y
>>>
>>> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
>>> para detalles.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>>
>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>
>>>
>>>  Message original   Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile  
>>> Date :
>>> Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100  De : David Stevens
>>>Répondre à :
>>> crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com  Pour : Mikel Maron
>>>Copie à :
>>>   Références : 
>>> <68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com><68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Mikel,
>>>
>>> I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.
>>>
>>> First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has
>>> been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries as
>>> well as regional and international organisations to access and use
>>> space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means
>>> ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce maps.
>>> We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use it for
>>> decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with the
>>> government institutions responsible for emergency response and disaster risk
>>> management and also with partners supporting these end users. More
>>> importantly after the response phase is gone and the media chasers have
>>> packed their bags and gone after another spotlight we continue working with
>>> the Government as in the case in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the
>>> Civi

Re: [OSM-talk] [GIST] Chile Post

2010-03-01 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli 
Dear Nicolas,

Is that the information already in OpenStreetMap?

Cheers,

Julio Costa


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:34 PM, nicolas chavent
wrote:

> Julio
> this might be another set of data for consideration in this crisis
> response.
> best
> N
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Karen Payne 
> Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM
> Subject: [GIST] Chile Post
> To: g...@listserv.itos.uga.edu
>
>
>   The following datasets for Chile have been published to the GIST Data
> Repository:
>
>
>
> Download all datasets:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/temp/dwnlds/20100301/chile_datasets.zip
>
>
>
> *Note:  *Collective downloads will be available for one week.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Datasets:<#1271c148098bf2c7_1271beb9332efe2e_1271b4d06aa0df4f_Downloadable_Data_Sets>
> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Downloadable Data Sets   Return to 
> Top<#1271c148098bf2c7_1271beb9332efe2e_1271b4d06aa0df4f__top>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Administrative Boundary Lines
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 528kB
>
> *Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
> *Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_administrative.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Buildings
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 40kB
>
> *Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
> *Data Provider:* GeoCommons
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/buildings_osm.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Coastline
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 4,968kB
>
> *Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
> *Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_coastline.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Places
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 98kB
>
> *Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
> *Data Provider:* GeoCommons
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/places_osm.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Points of Interest
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 96kB
>
> *Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
> *Data Provider:* GeoCommons
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/poi_osm.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Points of Interest
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 166kB
>
> *Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
> *Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_poi.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Railroads
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 97kB
>
> *Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
> *Data Provider:* GeoCommons
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/railroads_osm.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Roads
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 11,338kB
>
> *Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
> *Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_highway.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Water Bodies
> *Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
> *Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
> *File Size:* 3,328kB
>
> *Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
> *Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
> *Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team
>
> Download Location:
> https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_water.zip
>
>
>
> *Content Title:* Chile Woods, Forests, Parks, and Water Surfaces
> *Data Format:*

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

2010-03-01 Thread nicolas chavent 
Dear Julio and all-

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:

>  Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you understand)
>
> David writes:
>
> "Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use in
> Chile as well. "
>
> My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely include
> tracing by OSM.
> (But no specific imagery is mentioned)
>
> It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources) for
> clarification, and also how the source image would be available.
>

Agree this still needs to be clarified-

>
>
> Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly be
> a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and guidance").
> I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at:
>
>
> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
>

If not already done, it's fundamental to push the OSM data into the hands of
those entities, the way it has been pushed in the hands of international
responding entities and then explore the potential for wider cooperation-


>
> I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the
> international community. This would be a way people from abroad could
> contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort you
> are organising.
>
> Best,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>



Best
Nicolas.


>
> Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit :
>
> (In English after the break...)
>
> Estimado Jean-Guilhem,
>
> En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo claro con
> la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la liberación de la
> licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén disponibles? (Obviamente
> la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same
> attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)
>
> El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta resolución
> es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de todos los
> pueblos de la zona afectada.
>
> Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Julio Costa
> OpenStreetMap Chile
> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>
> ##ENGLISH##
>
> Dear Jean-Guilhem,
>
> In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids
> response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license once
> their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters since Haiti
> and none of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti"
> concerns me)
>
> The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery is
> quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.
>
> Thank you all for your help and cooperation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julio Costa
> OpenStreetMap Chile
> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>
>> Hola,
>>
>> Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
>> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
>> y
>>
>> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
>> para detalles.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>>  Message original   Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile  Date 
>> :
>> Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100  De : David Stevens 
>>   Répondre
>> à : crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com  Pour : Mikel Maron
>>Copie à :
>>   Références : 
>> <68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com><68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>>
>> Mikel,
>>
>> I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.
>>
>> First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has
>> been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries as
>> well as regional and international organisations to access and use
>> space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means
>> ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce maps.
>> We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use it for
>> decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with the
>> government institutions responsible for emergency response and disaster risk
>> management and also with partners supporting these end users. More
>> importantly after the response phase is gone and the media chasers have
>> packed their bags and gone after another spotlight we continue working with
>> the Government as in the case in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the
>> Civil Protection Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next
>> hurricane season.
>>
>> We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International
>> Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response we
>> activate the International Charter as has been the case for both Haiti and
>> Chile.
>>
>> The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end
>> products. In some mega disasters imag

[OSM-talk] Fwd: [GIST] Chile Post

2010-03-01 Thread nicolas chavent 
Julio
this might be another set of data for consideration in this crisis response.
best
N

-- Forwarded message --
From: Karen Payne 
Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Subject: [GIST] Chile Post
To: g...@listserv.itos.uga.edu


  The following datasets for Chile have been published to the GIST Data
Repository:



Download all datasets:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/temp/dwnlds/20100301/chile_datasets.zip



*Note:  *Collective downloads will be available for one week.







*Datasets: <#1271beb9332efe2e_1271b4d06aa0df4f_Downloadable_Data_Sets>*









Downloadable Data Sets   Return to
Top<#1271beb9332efe2e_1271b4d06aa0df4f__top>

*Content Title:* Chile Administrative Boundary Lines
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 528kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_administrative.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Buildings
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 40kB

*Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
*Data Provider:* GeoCommons
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/buildings_osm.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Coastline
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 4,968kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_coastline.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Places
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 98kB

*Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
*Data Provider:* GeoCommons
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/places_osm.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Points of Interest
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 96kB

*Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
*Data Provider:* GeoCommons
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/poi_osm.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Points of Interest
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 166kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_poi.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Railroads
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 97kB

*Data Originator:* OpenStreetMap
*Data Provider:* GeoCommons
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/railroads_osm.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Roads
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 11,338kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_highway.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Water Bodies
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 3,328kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_water.zip



*Content Title:* Chile Woods, Forests, Parks, and Water Surfaces
*Data Format:* ESRI Shapefile
*Coordinate System:* GCS_WGS_1984
*File Size:* 655kB

*Data Originator:* CloudMade (OpenStreetMap)
*Data Provider:* University of Georgia - ITOS
*Data Distributor:* Geographic Information Support Team

Download Location:
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/chile/datasets/chile_natural.zip







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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread simon 

> No, it means that Google Street View now is a collective work that
> incorporates some CC-SA licensed images. The license explicitly says
> that collective works need not be CC licensed themselves.

It's already been pointed out that there might be leeway between what it
'collective' and what is 'derrivative'.

In my case (the street sign picture) they are purely displaying it as a
whole so I guess that they are a collective work, however in the new fancy
stuff they are actively blending photos into a mosasic which surely is a
derriative work.

Looking at the term of the CC-SA 2.0
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode), a collective
work producer *MUST* remove items when requested to do so by the original
author.

For Street View, problems are normally reported via the 'report a problem'
link in the lower left. Unfortunately this (for the image) is linking to a
page more designed to report the image as inappropriate material or
against Flickr terms of service. It does not provide a way to contact
Google themselves

So using the 'report a problem' on the street view I have sent the
following I wonder how they will respond.

--
I am the copyright holder on the 'User Image' (of the street sign) which
is offered at this location.

This image is licensed under the CC-SA 2.0, which requires derivative
works to be licensed under the same (or compatible) license. Please either
remove the image or license the imagery from Google Street view under the
CC-SA license.

It may be that you consider the use of this image to be a 'collective
work', in which case you are obliged to remove it from said collective
work as per term 4a of the license.

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode

I would also point out that the 'report a problem' link for the image does
not allow an usage objection (such as this) to be filed with Google, this
seems to be a rather large oversight.

Yours faithfully,
Simon Wood.
(aka. Mungewell)
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-cl] Chile Datasets Imports, Mapping

2010-03-01 Thread Sam Vekemans 
Hi,
If the photos are your own, (or you have direct permission to use them)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image

Although it's still in the proposal stage, if you know the exact location of
photos, you can add the url link to where ever the photo is stored. As it's
a great way to cross-check and verify the actual roads & map features.

All we need is direct permission from the actual photo owners, then any
photo that can verify physical map features could be helpful.

This is a VERY helpful tool to have, as it is a way to share what the
buildings look like, so as new photos of buildings are available, the latest
version will be of great help.
ie.  Showing actual earthquake damage as well as the real-time progress for
the clean-up.

Hope that helps,
Sam








On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli <
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl> wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> We have to be careful about this: "Pero tambien Chile tiene una nuevo ley
> de tranparencia dice los datos hecho de servicio publico son publico pero
> con muchas papeles". When we were importing the Dirección de Vialidad roads
> data, the people from the NGO Derechos Digitales (
> http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) told me that the Chilean Government
> generated data is not Public Domain by default (as in the US). You have to
> ask for permission to use it to an authorized officer, making very clear the
> kind of license used to release the derivative work (in this case
> CC-BY-SA).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julio Costa
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Willett wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have lost my login to 
>> maps.geography.uc.edu/~cgn/maps/Chile/vectors/
>>
>> If it is not super urgent I will wait to Chris wakes up, now it is almost
>> 7 there.
>>
>> I have Region 9 almost ready as well as the comuna of Nueva Imperial.
>>
>> I'll give Chris another hour,
>>
>>
>> caio,
>>
>> bruce
>>
>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>> Bruce D. Willett
>> GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
>> bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet
>>
>> Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/
>>
>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
>> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
>>
>> "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
>> forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi
>>
>> Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
>> mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> I guess, you could keep on as you have done, starting with the hardest
>>> hit areas, weighted by population, with less communications, and with
>>> lighter data files...
>>>
>>> (Santiago for instance is very populated, but, if you have a lot of
>>> detailed data, could also be very long to upload...)
>>>
>>> From Wikipedia :
>>> Araucania region (IX region) population: 870 000
>>> O'Higgins region(VI region) pop. : 780 000
>>> Valparaiso region (V region) pop. : 1 540 000
>>> Santiago metropolitan region pop. : 7 000 000
>>> (you guys know geography further South better than I do)
>>>
>>> Seeing on
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/world/americas/01chile.html?pagewanted=2&src=tptw
>>> that 541 of 708 known deaths took place in Maule region, but also in
>>> other places that Concepcion was seriously damaged, my guess would be that
>>> regions further South, and farther away from Santiago, will be reached later
>>> or with more difficulty by relief support. So I'd guess it'd be interesting
>>> to upload Araucania Region data next, if you have some.
>>>
>>> Roads possible for relief support would also probably be useful.
>>>
>>> Of course, everybody is welcome to chime in, especially if you have
>>> information, or have been following the local news (I haven't yesterday,
>>> only on Saturday).
>>>
>>> Sebastian, I think it is a good idea to help Bruce with your bandwidth if
>>> it is possible.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>>
>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Willett a écrit :
>>>
 Hi,

 This has been uploaded.  I have other stuuf I could upload but don't
 know what is best.

 caio,

 bruce

 .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
 Bruce D. Willett
 GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
 bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet

 Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/

 "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
 can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

 "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
 forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi

 Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
 mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
 .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:

 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Turismo Aonikenk Ltda. - Sebastian Borgwardt

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-cl] Chile Datasets Imports, Mapping

2010-03-01 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli 
Bruce,

We have to be careful about this: "Pero tambien Chile tiene una nuevo ley de
tranparencia dice los datos hecho de servicio publico son publico pero con
muchas papeles". When we were importing the Dirección de Vialidad roads
data, the people from the NGO Derechos Digitales (
http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) told me that the Chilean Government
generated data is not Public Domain by default (as in the US). You have to
ask for permission to use it to an authorized officer, making very clear the
kind of license used to release the derivative work (in this case
CC-BY-SA).

Cheers,

Julio Costa


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Willett wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have lost my login to 
> maps.geography.uc.edu/~cgn/maps/Chile/vectors/
>
> If it is not super urgent I will wait to Chris wakes up, now it is almost 7
> there.
>
> I have Region 9 almost ready as well as the comuna of Nueva Imperial.
>
> I'll give Chris another hour,
>
>
> caio,
>
> bruce
>
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
> Bruce D. Willett
> GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
> bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet
>
> Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/
>
> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
>
> "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
> forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi
>
> Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
> mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I guess, you could keep on as you have done, starting with the hardest hit
>> areas, weighted by population, with less communications, and with lighter
>> data files...
>>
>> (Santiago for instance is very populated, but, if you have a lot of
>> detailed data, could also be very long to upload...)
>>
>> From Wikipedia :
>> Araucania region (IX region) population: 870 000
>> O'Higgins region(VI region) pop. : 780 000
>> Valparaiso region (V region) pop. : 1 540 000
>> Santiago metropolitan region pop. : 7 000 000
>> (you guys know geography further South better than I do)
>>
>> Seeing on
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/world/americas/01chile.html?pagewanted=2&src=tptw
>> that 541 of 708 known deaths took place in Maule region, but also in other
>> places that Concepcion was seriously damaged, my guess would be that regions
>> further South, and farther away from Santiago, will be reached later or with
>> more difficulty by relief support. So I'd guess it'd be interesting to
>> upload Araucania Region data next, if you have some.
>>
>> Roads possible for relief support would also probably be useful.
>>
>> Of course, everybody is welcome to chime in, especially if you have
>> information, or have been following the local news (I haven't yesterday,
>> only on Saturday).
>>
>> Sebastian, I think it is a good idea to help Bruce with your bandwidth if
>> it is possible.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>> Bruce Willett a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This has been uploaded.  I have other stuuf I could upload but don't know
>>> what is best.
>>>
>>> caio,
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>>> Bruce D. Willett
>>> GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
>>> bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet
>>>
>>> Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/
>>>
>>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
>>> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
>>>
>>> "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
>>> forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
>>> mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
>>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Turismo Aonikenk Ltda. - Sebastian Borgwardt wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hola Bruce,

 =ENGLISH=

 Is this the data you said you'd upload:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Willett-Nicholas_data_sets
 Can anyone please comment, if this data is what we're looking for? The
 reason I'm asking is that Bruce and I are both in Punta Arenas. The 
 internet
 connection down here is not realy the fastest (256k upload). Bruce has a 
 lot
 of data. I could go to his house, take some data back to my house and could
 help uploading, but we need more info on what we need.

 =SPANISH=
 Estos son los datos que has dicho que estaras subiendo:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Willett-Nicholas_data_sets
 Alguien puede decirnos, si estos datos son lo que estamos buscando? La
 razon de porque pregunto es que Bruce y yo estamos en Punta Arenas. La
 coneccion de internet no es la mas rap

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-cl] OpenStreetMap + Ushahidi-Chile in the works + partnerships

2010-03-01 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli 
Leo,

Estoy al tanto, de hecho he escrito un par de cosas en la lista, abogando
por usar USHAHIDI en lugar de desarrollar desde cero.

Si les interesa que vaya mañana después del trabajo (17:30-->), yo feliz. Ya
me ofrecí a través de la lista de correo, pero creo que no hubo respuesta.
Como te digo, estoy totalmente disponible.

Saludos,

Julio Costa

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Leo Soto M.  wrote:

> Julio,
>
> En caso que aún no sepas (probablemente ya sabes), se ha juntado un
> grupo para armar chileayuda.com en Huelen 164, oficinas de Oxus, y por
> lo que he visto acá, parte importante de lo que se esta haciendo es
> una interfaz de mapas, conectado a ushaidi.
>
> En caso que no hayas estado al tanto y te interese coordinarte con
> ellos, seria genial que te pusieras en contacto con ellos.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli
>  wrote:
> > Yes, I do know Chillan, Cobquecura, Buchupureo, Dichato, and pretty much
> the
> > southern part of the area affected (My mother, brother and grandparents
> live
> > in Chillan).
> >
> > I think that we can make a list of cities and towns around the epicentre
> and
> > start mapping from the centre to the more remote ones. There are plenty
> of
> > small town right near to the epicentre, most of them affected by the
> tsunami
> > (the ones right by the sea) and many more inland with infraestructure
> > problems.
> >
> > I am organizing some training sessions for people with knowledge from the
> > most affected areas but living in Santiago. The idea is that they learn
> to
> > use Potlatch to add all that stuff that can not be added from the aerial
> > imagery, i.e.: Street names, hospitals, schools, police stations,
> > supermarkets, convenience stores, etc. to OpenStreetMap. I will keep you
> > informed on the progress of this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Julio Costa
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you have ideas of things to do / tasks ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I think satellite imagery should be available "soon" for tracing.
> >>
> >> Do you guys know the impacted area ?
> >>
> >> Maybe you could plan some kind of work plan for volunteers to help ?
> >>
> >> (e.g. with a wiki page, or a shared spreadsheet on Google Doc)
> >>
> >> How to split the work ? By area ?
> >>
> >> What would be priority themes ?
> >>
> >> Locate damages announced in the news ? (Damaged roads, collapsed
> bridges,
> >> maybe damaged buildings ? )
> >>
> >> How to coordinate ? talk-cl (OSM specific), crisismappers-chile (more
> >> general, e.g. also including Ushahidi), osm-talk (to get general OSM
> >> attention) ?
> >>
> >> Is there an IRC channel ?
> >>
> >> (The most relevant I am aware of might be #crisiscommons on
> irc.rhok.org
> >>
> >> Of course, there is also #osm on oftc.net, for OSM stuff)
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> (puedo hablar espanol o traducir si es mejor /
> >> I can help translating to / from Spanish)
> >>
> >> Jean-Guilhem
> >> Toulouse, France
> >> OpenStreetMap volunteer
> >> (Experience with Haiti mapping - especially regarding health facilities,
> >> PAHO (Pan American Health Organization) Master List, etc.
> >> professionally works with satellite images - research and software
> >> development for image analysis, segmentation...)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
Where does a collective work start and end?

is the copying of a picture into a larger one creating a derived work?

If I make a mosaic of ccsa artworks, but say it is my creative arrangement?

Why does google take down my video that contains many short clips from other
videos?

mike


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Ulf Möller  wrote:

> si...@mungewell.org schrieb:
>
> > This photo is (and, IIRC, has always been) CC-SA. Since this is 'Share
> > Alike', does it now mean that Google Street View is now a derivative
> work,
> > and therefore CC-SA?
>
> No, it means that Google Street View now is a collective work that
> incorporates some CC-SA licensed images. The license explicitly says
> that collective works need not be CC licensed themselves.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Colin Marquardt 
2010/3/1 Robert Scott :
> On Monday 01 March 2010, Anthony wrote:
>> Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that makes
>> me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
>> behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.
>
> http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/
>
> GPL.
>
> It's been around for a while and there's been interest from OSMers in using it

Right. URL for this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Photogrammetry

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Ulf Möller 
si...@mungewell.org schrieb:

> This photo is (and, IIRC, has always been) CC-SA. Since this is 'Share
> Alike', does it now mean that Google Street View is now a derivative work,
> and therefore CC-SA?

No, it means that Google Street View now is a collective work that 
incorporates some CC-SA licensed images. The license explicitly says 
that collective works need not be CC licensed themselves.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

2010-03-01 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton 

Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you understand)

David writes:

"Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use 
in Chile as well. "


My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely 
include tracing by OSM.

(But no specific imagery is mentioned)

It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources) 
for clarification, and also how the source image would be available.



Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly 
be a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and 
guidance"). I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at:

http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile


I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the 
international community. This would be a way people from abroad could 
contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort 
you are organising.


Best,

Jean-Guilhem


Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit :

(In English after the break...)

Estimado Jean-Guilhem,

En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo 
claro con la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la 
liberación de la licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén 
disponibles? (Obviamente la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none 
of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)


El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta 
resolución es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de 
todos los pueblos de la zona afectada.


Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.

Saludos,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/

##ENGLISH##

Dear Jean-Guilhem,

In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids 
response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license 
once their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters 
since Haiti and none of them received the same attention and 
dedication as Haiti" concerns me)


The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery 
is quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.


Thank you all for your help and cooperation.

Cheers,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton > wrote:


Hola,

Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
http://www.un-spider.org/chile
y

http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
para detalles.

Saludos,

Jean-Guilhem


 Message original 
Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile
Date :  Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100
De :David Stevens 

Répondre à :crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com

Pour :  Mikel Maron 

Copie à :   
Références :<68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>




Mikel,

I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.

First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme
that has been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to
help all countries as well as regional and international
organisations to access and use space-based information. It is an
interesting mandate because it means ensuring access and use as
well as building capacity. We don't produce maps. We ensure end
users and their partners are able to do it and use it for decision
making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with
the government institutions responsible for emergency response and
disaster risk management and also with partners supporting these
end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and
the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another
spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case
in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection
Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.

We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the
International Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in
an emergency response we activate the International Charter as has
been the case for both Haiti and Chile.

The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the
end products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available
for free as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and
the Haiti earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery
becomes a bit more widely available and not only for mega
disasters. We have been involved and support

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

2010-03-01 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli 
(In English after the break...)

Estimado Jean-Guilhem,

En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo claro con
la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la liberación de la
licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén disponibles? (Obviamente
la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same
attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)

El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta resolución
es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de todos los
pueblos de la zona afectada.

Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.

Saludos,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/

##ENGLISH##

Dear Jean-Guilhem,

In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids
response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license once
their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters since Haiti
and none of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti"
concerns me)

The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery is
quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.

Thank you all for your help and cooperation.

Cheers,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/


On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:

>  Hola,
>
> Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
> y
>
> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
> para detalles.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
>  Message original   Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile  Date :
> Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100  De : David Stevens 
>   Répondre
> à : crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com  Pour : Mikel Maron
>Copie à :
>   Références : 
> <68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com><68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>
> Mikel,
>
> I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.
>
> First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has
> been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries as
> well as regional and international organisations to access and use
> space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means
> ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce maps.
> We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use it for
> decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with the
> government institutions responsible for emergency response and disaster risk
> management and also with partners supporting these end users. More
> importantly after the response phase is gone and the media chasers have
> packed their bags and gone after another spotlight we continue working with
> the Government as in the case in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the
> Civil Protection Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next
> hurricane season.
>
> We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International
> Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response we
> activate the International Charter as has been the case for both Haiti and
> Chile.
>
> The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end
> products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available for free as
> was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and the Haiti earthquake.
> We are working to ensure that imagery becomes a bit more widely available
> and not only for mega disasters. We have been involved and supported 5
> disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same attention and
> dedication as Haiti.
>
> Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use in
> Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is being made available on
> our webpage
>
> http://www.un-spider.org/chile
>
> Two requests
>
> First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on available
> imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know there are several other
> portals as well with similar info but for sure our end users do access the
> UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first. Please feel free to replicate the info we
> have on other portals as well. We would appreciate a link to our portal. And
> we will ensure we include a link to the other portals. Please send us any
> info to include to the following e-mail: space...@unoosa.org
>
> Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for suggestions.
> In Chile there are strong and efficient government institutions in place,
> both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should be centred on their needs and
> guidance.
>
> One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United Nations Office
> for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN Secretariat and we are the UN
> Office responsible for promoting the access and use of space-based
> technologies and solution

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Anthony  wrote:

> No sense in wasting manpower over something a bunch of unmanned dirigibles
> could do.
>
>
There are places in the world that no one will send dirigibles to. Lots of
places have really bad sat coverage because big companies don't want to
spend money on them.
These places have lots of manpower that can be put to work.

Manpower is not that expensive outside of the major economic zones.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki - Croatian and Bosnian languages - mass-namespace editing notice

2010-03-01 Thread Grant Slater 
On 1 March 2010 18:37, Valent Turkovic  wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:43:06 +0100, Matija Nalis wrote:
>
>> As he had not replied to his user talk page I don't know yet if it was
>> done out of ignorance, or malice.
>
> Is there a way to completely undo work of some malicious WIKI user if
> things like this continue to happen?
>

Yes... Seems to all have be undone already?

But I believe Wynndale moved the pages with the best intentions. He is
a regular at the London meets, I'll chat to him at the next meet.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Scott 
On Monday 01 March 2010, Anthony wrote:
> Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that makes
> me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
> behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.

http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/

GPL.

It's been around for a while and there's been interest from OSMers in using it 
but nobody's ever got around to getting the processing power organized and the 
blanks in the workflow filled in.


robert.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Anthony 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Smith wrote:

> On 2 March 2010 04:36, Anthony  wrote:
> > Wikipedia is a whole different beast.  It'll likely be replaced by Google
> > when and if Google come out with a breakthrough in natural language
> > processing.  It looks like that breakthrough has already come in terms of
> > creating a 3D model of the world.  All that's left is taking lots of raw,
> > dumb pictures.  No sense in wasting manpower over something a bunch of
> > unmanned dirigibles could do.
>
> Yes and we've been told for years that in 5 years time computers will
> program themselves. While computers may be able to crunch numbers,
> they can't just mash a bunch of information together and make
> something useful and interesting.
>

Great point.  I think the power really comes when we combine the two
methods, massive collaboration and technology.  I'd love to see some tools
to facilitate automated high res orthography tracing with direct input from
human mappers.  Micromapping is uncharted territory, and is a place OSM
could potentially shine.  Unfortunately, one advantage Google has over OSM
(as exemplified by this very thread, actually), is that they avoid copyright
paranoia.  OTOH, there is a lot of high res ortho which is in the public
domain, albeit mostly in the United States.
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-03-01 Thread Valent Turkovic 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:49:29 +, Chris Hill wrote:

> *really* good idea in OSM, but why do you want to piss off some of the

I'm just a mapper but agree with SteveC on this, and I hope nobody gets 
offended but there is place for lts of improvements on www.osm.org 
website.



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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-03-01 Thread Valent Turkovic 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:19:12 +, Tom Hughes wrote:

> pointless little diatribe. I do help it made you feel better.

What are you on about?



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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread John Smith 
On 2 March 2010 04:36, Anthony  wrote:
> Wikipedia is a whole different beast.  It'll likely be replaced by Google
> when and if Google come out with a breakthrough in natural language
> processing.  It looks like that breakthrough has already come in terms of
> creating a 3D model of the world.  All that's left is taking lots of raw,
> dumb pictures.  No sense in wasting manpower over something a bunch of
> unmanned dirigibles could do.

Yes and we've been told for years that in 5 years time computers will
program themselves. While computers may be able to crunch numbers,
they can't just mash a bunch of information together and make
something useful and interesting.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki - Croatian and Bosnian languages - mass-namespace editing notice

2010-03-01 Thread Valent Turkovic 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:43:06 +0100, Matija Nalis wrote:

> As he had not replied to his user talk page I don't know yet if it was
> done out of ignorance, or malice.

Is there a way to completely undo work of some malicious WIKI user if 
things like this continue to happen?



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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Anthony 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM, John Smith wrote:

> On 2 March 2010 03:28, Anthony  wrote:
> > Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that
> makes
> > me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
> > behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.
>
> Google like all companies has limited growth potential with employees
> alone, which is why they're trying to branch out into crowd sourcing,
> they've already have one failure on this front with their attempt to
> replace wikipedia.
>

Wikipedia is a whole different beast.  It'll likely be replaced by Google
when and if Google come out with a breakthrough in natural language
processing.  It looks like that breakthrough has already come in terms of
creating a 3D model of the world.  All that's left is taking lots of raw,
dumb pictures.  No sense in wasting manpower over something a bunch of
unmanned dirigibles could do.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer 
2010/3/1 Anthony :
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM,  wrote:
> Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that makes
> me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
> behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.


at least I know of a M$-Product that can do this as well (product
demos there at least for 5 years):
http://photosynth.net/

cheers,
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[OSM-talk] Traducción de MapOSMatic

2010-03-01 Thread Turismo Aonikenk Ltda. - Sebastian Borgwardt 
Hola,

Mientras que estamos esperado imágenes satelitales he contactado los 
amigos de MapOSMatic (www.maposmatic.org) para ver si podemos ofrecer su 
servicio en español. Ellos están muy interesado en ayudar pero no tienen 
traductores. Estoy comenzando a traducir esto. A lo mejor no es de 
primer importancia pero puede ser útil para la gente en las regiones 
afectadas que no tienen acceso a internet una vez que hemos mejorado los 
datos. Todavía hay mucha gente sin orientación ahí!

Saludos,

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread John Smith 
On 2 March 2010 03:28, Anthony  wrote:
> Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that makes
> me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
> behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.

Google like all companies has limited growth potential with employees
alone, which is why they're trying to branch out into crowd sourcing,
they've already have one failure on this front with their attempt to
replace wikipedia.

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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

2010-03-01 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton 

Hola,

Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
http://www.un-spider.org/chile
y
http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
para detalles.

Saludos,

Jean-Guilhem


 Message original 
Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile
Date :  Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100
De :David Stevens 
Répondre à :crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com
Pour :  Mikel Maron 
Copie à :   
Références :<68743.49937...@web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com>



Mikel,

I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.

First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has 
been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries 
as well as regional and international organisations to access and use 
space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means 
ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce 
maps. We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use 
it for decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work 
closely with the government institutions responsible for emergency 
response and disaster risk management and also with partners supporting 
these end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and 
the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another 
spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case in 
Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection Agency 
rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.


We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International 
Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response 
we activate the International Charter as has been the case for both 
Haiti and Chile.


The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end 
products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available for free 
as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and the Haiti 
earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery becomes a bit more 
widely available and not only for mega disasters. We have been involved 
and supported 5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same 
attention and dedication as Haiti.


Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use 
in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is being made 
available on our webpage


http://www.un-spider.org/chile

Two requests

First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on 
available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know there are 
several other portals as well with similar info but for sure our end 
users do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first. Please feel free 
to replicate the info we have on other portals as well. We would 
appreciate a link to our portal. And we will ensure we include a link to 
the other portals. Please send us any info to include to the following 
e-mail: space...@unoosa.org 


Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for 
suggestions. In Chile there are strong and efficient government 
institutions in place, both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should be 
centred on their needs and guidance.


One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United Nations 
Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN Secretariat and we 
are the UN Office responsible for promoting the access and use of 
space-based technologies and solutions. Space is our business and our 
mandate.


Regards

David

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UN-SPIDER
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
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On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron > wrote:


   Colleagues

   Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in the
   response to Haiti?

   We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for Chile. OSM
   is ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is an OSM Chile
   community who we are trying to get through to.
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake

   Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be an

   issue we all could discuss in the next few months, but now the need
   is urgent.
   The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw imagery
   data for response?

   * DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will license
   terms be dropped again?

   * Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an
   exception to the non-commercial clause?

   * UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with volunteer groups?

   * Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process imagery
   again?

   All ... any other sources or thoughts?

   Best
   Mikel

   == Mikel Maron

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Anthony 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM,  wrote:

> Google tech is really nice
>

Yeah.  Anyone know how they're doing this?  It's stuff like this that makes
me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread simon 

> This photo is (and, IIRC, has always been) CC-SA. Since this is 'Share
> Alike', does it now mean that Google Street View is now a derivative work,
> and therefore CC-SA?

Ok this is worse than I first thought.

Taking the example of Notre Dame they use in one of their 'explain
videos', many of the included/embedded photos are 'All rights reserved'.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=notra+dame+paris&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.69072,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=Cath%C3%A9drale+Notre+Dame+de+Paris&hnear=Cath%C3%A9drale+Notre+Dame+de+Paris,+6+Place+du+Parvis+Notre+Dame,+75004+Paris,+France&z=15&layer=c&cbll=48.853821,2.348177&panoid=UrKjgE799LInbXHAnjKXkw&cbp=12,131.924852,,0,-20.758112&photoid=po-12821795


At least Bing stated that they would only use PD and CC photos. (OMG... I
can't believe I'm saying something positive about M$ ;-)

Google tech is really nice, but aren't they over stepping the licensing
issue quite considerably?

Mungewell.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread Anthony 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM,  wrote:

> This photo is (and, IIRC, has always been) CC-SA. Since this is 'Share
> Alike', does it now mean that Google Street View is now a derivative work,
> and therefore CC-SA?
>

No.  It's only CC-SA if they decide to release it under CC-SA.


> Mungewell.
> (who doesn't really mind them using the photos, but likes license
> compliance).
>

Send them a DMCA takedown notice.
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[OSM-talk] Google StreetMap embedding Flickr photos

2010-03-01 Thread simon 
Yesterday there was a Slashdot link to a Google video of how they are
embedding 'User' photos into Street View:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbnT7zcZ-w&feature=player_embedded

One such photo location is here:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=51.105354,-114.069672&spn=0,359.902925&z=14&lci=com.panoramio.all&layer=c&cbll=51.105345,-114.06948&panoid=Cz5V3P3w3v3YKFrRKdpQGg&cbp=12,313.45,,0,12.52

Which links to one of my (really boring!!!) photos of a sign post.

Flickr Page here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24244...@n03/2472956696

This photo is (and, IIRC, has always been) CC-SA. Since this is 'Share
Alike', does it now mean that Google Street View is now a derivative work,
and therefore CC-SA?

Flickr is also saying that this particular photo has only been viewed once
(not including me), so are they actually checking the contents?

If that one person was really a Google bot/person, why on earth would they
include this photo? (me thinks that they are rushing to get back at Bing).

Mungewell.
(who doesn't really mind them using the photos, but likes license
compliance).


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Re: [OSM-talk] Are Yahoo street maps legal? (as JOSM WMS layer via desktopwms)

2010-03-01 Thread Matthias Julius 
Valent Turkovic  writes:

> Hi,
> I recently discovered destopwms [1] and it is a great utility that
> enables OSM, Yahoo and Google maps as WMS layers in JOSM.
>
> OSM layer is great because it is easier to map when can see the map at
> the same time.

Do you know the slippymap plugin for JOSM?  It does just that.

Matthias

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Re: [OSM-talk] HOT ready? Concepción, Chile eart hquake

2010-03-01 Thread Gregory 
On 28 February 2010 10:37, SteveC  wrote:

> All we need are earthquakes on every square mile of the planet, and OSM
> will be complete in no time! :-)
>
> If that's the case then I'm not going to bother adding detail to the
Vancouver area while I'm here. My local friend says they're always going on
about a major eathquake anytime within the next 200 years and preparing the
services/drills.

*sits here and waits for you all to come map it for me*
Oh and if you spot an orange high-vis jacket, please dig me out of the
rubble.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Are Yahoo street maps legal? (as JOSM WMS layer via desktopwms)

2010-03-01 Thread Gregory 
On 28 February 2010 12:51, Tim McNamara  wrote:

> On 28 February 2010 08:56, David Earl  wrote:
>
>> On 27/02/2010 09:31, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> > I was hoping that Yahoo has their own maps and that we could use them.
>>
>> Whatever the legality, I can't see the point in making a map which is
>> simply a copy of someone else's. Why go to the bother - you might as
>> well just use the original.
>>
>>
> Why bother?
Because you want  a vector data map rather than a raster map of flat images?
You can search in interesting ways and you can do automated cartegoraphy
(pink yahoo maps anyone?).

But of course this is assuming you trust the source of your tracings, and a
lot of us like to get out there in the rain & mud to see roads ourselves.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton 

Hi,

In this case, from what I know, it is the "SAFER" European project which 
has been activated.

(http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAFER_Service_GMES_de_r%C3%A9ponse_aux_crises_et_aux_situations_d%27urgence)

Map products, when ready, should be available there :

http://www.emergencyresponse.eu/

Best regard,

Jean-Guilhem


jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com a écrit :

http://www.disasterscharter.org/home
The International Charter aims at providing a unified system of space 
data acquisition and delivery to those affected by natural or man-made 
disasters through Authorized Users. Each member agency has committed 
resources to support the provisions of the Charter and thus is helping 
to mitigate the effects of disasters on human life and property.


When it is activated, they will post highres images of the affected areas.
mike

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Frederik Ramm > wrote:


Hi,

Emilie Laffray wrote:
> In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a
charter
> activation.

What charter are both of you talking about, who decides when it gets
"activated", and what prerequisites and consequences are there
for/from
such activation?

Bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Maarten Deen 
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:25:27 +0100, Frederik Ramm 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Emilie Laffray wrote:
>> In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a charter 
>> activation. 
> 
> What charter are both of you talking about, who decides when it gets 
> "activated", and what prerequisites and consequences are there for/from 
> such activation?

It may be .

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
http://www.disasterscharter.org/home
The International Charter aims at providing a unified system of space data
acquisition and delivery to those affected by natural or man-made disasters
through Authorized Users. Each member agency has committed resources to
support the provisions of the Charter and thus is helping to mitigate the
effects of disasters on human life and property.

When it is activated, they will post highres images of the affected areas.
mike

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Emilie Laffray wrote:
> > In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a charter
> > activation.
>
> What charter are both of you talking about, who decides when it gets
> "activated", and what prerequisites and consequences are there for/from
> such activation?
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Frederik Ramm 
Hi,

Emilie Laffray wrote:
> In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a charter 
> activation. 

What charter are both of you talking about, who decides when it gets 
"activated", and what prerequisites and consequences are there for/from 
such activation?

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Emilie Laffray 
2010/3/1 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 

> That is what I thought as well, France will be able to manage that better
> than anyone else.
>
> My idea is that with the charter activation, highres photos become
> available to the public domain and
> therefore to osm.
>

In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a charter
activation. It is nowhere as bad as some of the recent disasters like Haiti,
Chile, etc . You would be close to the tsunami that happened in Southern
Japan: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35624070

Emilie Laffray
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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com 
That is what I thought as well, France will be able to manage that better
than anyone else.

My idea is that with the charter activation, highres photos become available
to the public domain and
therefore to osm.

mike

2010/3/1 Frédéric Bonifas 

> Hello,
>
> I won't complain if anyone map France or any part of the world, but
> honestly, there is no need for an emergency mapping response in this
> case.
>
> Frédéric
>
> 2010/3/1, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com :
> > Here is a new crisis:
> > http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/30558/
> >
> > Area is around here :
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.3328&lon=-1.3357&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF
> >
> > No disaster charter activation. No sources of photos yet.
> >
> > I am sorry for the people who died!
> >
> > mike
> >
>
> --
> Envoyé avec mon mobile
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM10 registration is open

2010-03-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega 
El 01/03/2010 10:22, Frederik Ramm escribió:
> I was just unsure because the last time the OSMF tried to e-mail all its
> members it did so with an invalid From: address causing the mail to be
> discarded on my side.

I'll ping talk@ when these are sent, for good measure.

> But if you take grammar so seriously I guess can just retrieve that page
> until the "will receive" turns into a "have received" ;-)

OK, I'll have to be quicker at updating the page then :-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM10 registration is open

2010-03-01 Thread Frederik Ramm 
Hi,

Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
>> "Are you a Foundation member? Use your discount code you will receive by
>> mail for an extra €10 discount."
>>
>> Have these already been sent?
> 
> Not yet - what part of "will" did you not understand? :-P

I was just unsure because the last time the OSMF tried to e-mail all its 
members it did so with an invalid From: address causing the mail to be 
discarded on my side.

But if you take grammar so seriously I guess can just retrieve that page 
until the "will receive" turns into a "have received" ;-)

Bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Frédéric Bonifas 
Hello,

I won't complain if anyone map France or any part of the world, but
honestly, there is no need for an emergency mapping response in this
case.

Frédéric

2010/3/1, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com :
> Here is a new crisis:
> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/30558/
>
> Area is around here :
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.3328&lon=-1.3357&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF
>
> No disaster charter activation. No sources of photos yet.
>
> I am sorry for the people who died!
>
> mike
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM10 registration is open

2010-03-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega 
El 01/03/2010 9:58, Frederik Ramm escribió:
> "Are you a Foundation member? Use your discount code you will receive by
> mail for an extra €10 discount."
>
> Have these already been sent?

Not yet - what part of "will" did you not understand? :-P

The discount codes should be out in a week or so. Please bear with the 
organising committee until then.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-cl] Chile Datasets Imports, Mapping

2010-03-01 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton 
Hi,

I guess, you could keep on as you have done, starting with the hardest 
hit areas, weighted by population, with less communications, and with 
lighter data files...

(Santiago for instance is very populated, but, if you have a lot of 
detailed data, could also be very long to upload...)

 From Wikipedia :
Araucania region (IX region) population: 870 000
O'Higgins region(VI region) pop. : 780 000
Valparaiso region (V region) pop. : 1 540 000
Santiago metropolitan region pop. : 7 000 000
(you guys know geography further South better than I do)

Seeing on 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/world/americas/01chile.html?pagewanted=2&src=tptw
that 541 of 708 known deaths took place in Maule region, but also in 
other places that Concepcion was seriously damaged, my guess would be 
that regions further South, and farther away from Santiago, will be 
reached later or with more difficulty by relief support. So I'd guess 
it'd be interesting to upload Araucania Region data next, if you have some.

Roads possible for relief support would also probably be useful.

Of course, everybody is welcome to chime in, especially if you have 
information, or have been following the local news (I haven't yesterday, 
only on Saturday).

Sebastian, I think it is a good idea to help Bruce with your bandwidth 
if it is possible.

Saludos,

Jean-Guilhem


Bruce Willett a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This has been uploaded.  I have other stuuf I could upload but don't 
> know what is best.
>
> caio,
>
> bruce
>
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>  Bruce D. Willett
> GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
> bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet
>
> Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/
>
> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
>
> "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
> forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi
>
> Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
> mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Turismo Aonikenk Ltda. - Sebastian Borgwardt wrote:
>
>> Hola Bruce,
>>
>> =ENGLISH=
>>
>> Is this the data you said you'd upload:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Willett-Nicholas_data_sets
>>  
>>
>>
>> Can anyone please comment, if this data is what we're looking for? 
>> The reason I'm asking is that Bruce and I are both in Punta Arenas. 
>> The internet connection down here is not realy the fastest (256k 
>> upload). Bruce has a lot of data. I could go to his house, take some 
>> data back to my house and could help uploading, but we need more info 
>> on what we need.
>>
>> =SPANISH=
>> Estos son los datos que has dicho que estaras subiendo:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Willett-Nicholas_data_sets
>>  
>>
>>
>> Alguien puede decirnos, si estos datos son lo que estamos buscando? 
>> La razon de porque pregunto es que Bruce y yo estamos en Punta 
>> Arenas. La coneccion de internet no es la mas rapida (256k subida). 
>> Bruce tiene muchos datos. Yo podria ir a su casa a buscar datos y 
>> ayudar en subirlos, pero necesitamos saber mas sobre lo que necesitamos.
>>
>> =DEUTSCH=
>> Sind das die Daten, die Du upgeloadet hast?
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake/Imagery_and_data_sources#Willett-Nicholas_data_sets
>>  
>>
>>
>> Kann uns jemand mitteilen, ob dies die Art Daten sind, wie wir 
>> suchen? Ich frage, da Bruce und ich beide in Punta Arenas sind. Die 
>> Internetverbindung hier unten ist nicht wirklich die schnellste (256k 
>> Upload). Bruce hat jede Menge Daten. Ich könnte zu ihm gehen, Daten 
>> mit zu mir nach Hause nehmen und beim Upload helfen, aber wir 
>> brauchen mehr Info zu den Daten, die wir brauchen.
>>
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> Bruce Willett schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am uploading another set now since last night, could e a while 
>>> though, annotation, rds curvas, hidro, all of the region of Maule - 
>>> (talca)
>>>
>>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>>>  Bruce D. Willett
>>> GIS Specialist  Punta Arenas, Chile
>>> bdwil...@n2.net www.n2.net/bdwillet
>>>
>>> Photo log: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdwillet/
>>>
>>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
>>> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
>>>
>>> "La Civilización de un pueblo se mide por la
>>> forma que tratan a los animales". Gandhi
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine, mine,
>>> mine, all mine and not those of anybody else
>>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:..:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 As some parts of Chile are already well mapped, and before 
 post-earthquake satellite imagery become available, OSMers with 
 experience in

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM10 registration is open

2010-03-01 Thread Frederik Ramm 
Ivan,

Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> If you live outside the interwebs and twittersphere and blog-o-things, 
> you might not be aware that early bird registration to the State of the 
> Map 2010 has just opened:
> 
> http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/register

"Are you a Foundation member? Use your discount code you will receive by 
mail for an extra €10 discount."

Have these already been sent?

Bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] we've got to be around 4 million now

2010-03-01 Thread Simone Cortesi 
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 22:46, Richard Weait  wrote:
> So we have to be around four million change sets now.  What's that you say?
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/400

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/300 - 31 oct 2009

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/200 -  1 aug 2009

:)

> Oh, well played, sir!  Excellent choice of editor.

BTW, really nice editor...

hej! nick black! any chance of an android version? :)

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[OSM-talk] SotM10 registration is open

2010-03-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega 
Hi all,

If you live outside the interwebs and twittersphere and blog-o-things, 
you might not be aware that early bird registration to the State of the 
Map 2010 has just opened:

http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/register

SotM10 will be the perfect place to learn more about OSM and gather with 
the rest of the OSM community. If you plan to come to the SotM10, 
reserve your ticket now!

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