Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

2015-03-22 Thread Tom Hughes

On 22/03/15 21:30, Pmailkeey . wrote:

Could really do with ahighway
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=fictitious
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Droad tag for roads
with fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found reference in an
official publication to a fictional streetname - and have found use of
that name in other official circumstances - despite the street in
question having a completely different name !


Well highway=fictitious would imply the road is fictitious, not the name.

I suspect not:name= is what you want - that is what we normally use to 
record names erroneously asserted in official sources.


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[Talk-ca] Fwd: Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Bruno Remy
I agree with you, Richard : splash pad is exactly what I was seeking !
Unfortunatly, there is no clear statement on wiki or taginfo...

I remember now the suggestion of Guy Talbot
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/gtalbot, contributor of our local
community :
amenity http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity?uselang=fr-CA
playground +
playground http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:playground?uselang=fr-CA
splash_pad


See: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/8lG


As local (regional) uniformity purpose I suggest the use of this Guy
Talbot's combination amenity=playground  playground=splash_pad arround
Québec City (Région Capitale-Nationale).

 For a long-term issue, and as universal uniformity purpose, Harald has a
good suggestion to forward discussion to the tagging list.

Bruno
By the way  best regards to Guy Talbot ! Cheers Budy !!


2015-03-22 18:39 GMT-04:00 Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com:



 On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:


 It's commonly called a splash pad, but tag usage seems scattered.

 http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=splash_pad#values

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_pad

 If you look at the discussion page of the wikipedia entry and the
 external links, it seems that the term is not universally established
 and/or the name of a specific company offering these kinds of things.

 Maybe this discussion should be taken to the tagging list?

  Harald.




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Re: [Talk-dk] Under Krystallen - Plads og bygning

2015-03-22 Thread Michael Andersen
Jeg er enig med Michel

Der udgives jævnligt nye versioner af openstreetmap-carto (det stylesheet der 
bestemmer standardlagets udseende), senest var fredag: 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-March/072431.html.

På https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues kan man se hvad 
der i øjeblikket er af åbne sager og eventuelt oprette nye.

Held og lykke med det

Søndag den 22. marts 2015 10:11:16 skrev Michel Coene:
 Det helt principielt rette ting at gøre er nok at indsende en bug-report
 til dem som laver softwaren...
 
 2015-03-22 8:34 GMT+01:00 Asger Frank asg...@gmail.com:
  For nylig har der været en tråd Invisible dome med et helt tilsvarende
  problem, og en angiven workaround.
  Der savnede jeg egentlig også en kommentar eller refleksion over dilemmaet
  database/rendering.
  
  Mvh
  Asger Frank
  
  Den 21/03/2015 kl. 12.14 skrev Victor Valore vic...@valore.dk:
   Jeg har gjort et stykke arbejde med Under Krystallen som er en plads i
  
  København.
  
   På pladsen ligger en bygning, Krystallen beboet af Nykredit, som er
  
  sådan en frit svævende bygning hvor man kan gå under.
  
   Jeg har lavet pladsen som highway=pedestrian, area=yes og layer=-1.
  
  Layer for at angive at pladsens areal ligger under alt det
  udstyr/bygninger
  som er på pladsen.
  
   Når området bliver renderet på openstreetmap.org, så kan de fleste
  
  renderinger gennemskue dette udmærket, men default renderingen lægger
  pladsen ovenpå bygningen.
  
   Da jeg ved at vi mapper til databasen og ikke til en given rendering,
  
  så er jeg i tvivl om jeg skal gøre yderligere eller om jeg bare skal
  accepterer at default renderingen på openstreetmap.org har en
  skønhedsfejl?
  
   Kommentarer og synspunkter modtages gerne.
   
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[Talk-dk] Brudte kystlinjer på Drejø

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Hej,

Drejøs kystlinje er brudt, er der nogen grund til det, eller er det OK at 
samle den? God forberedelse til at få tilføjet tags, så øen optræder med et 
navn.

Drejø består i øvrigt lige som Avernakø af to øer samlet med et drej. Men hvor 
der på Avernakø er en menneskeskabt dæmning på drejet, er det på Drejø 
naturligt landfast. Avernakø har da også to kystlinjer, mens Drejø nok burde 
bestå af én. 

Vh,
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-22 Thread althio
À prendre en compte ? Entre autres événements, la compétition et la finale
du championnat de football Euro2016 :
10 juillet 2016

2015-03-12 15:00 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr:
 Je proposerai bien un SOTM 2016 à Paris... vu que la proposition pour
 2015 n'avait pas eu de réponse.

 Pour le lieu, Jean avait des pistes du côté de la Ville de Paris, je
 vais voir de mon côté sur d'autres sites que j'ai repéré.

 Pour la date, je verrai plutôt ça vers l'été ou l'automne.

 Qu'en pensez-vous ?


 Le 10/03/2015 22:36, Emilie Laffray a écrit :
 Pour ceux que ca interesse.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: *Richard Weait* rich...@weait.com mailto:rich...@weait.com
 Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM
 Subject: Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

 The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

 Build a team for your city and bid to host the OpenStreetMap conference.
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

2015-03-22 Thread Jaisen Nedumpala
Hai,

Thank you Alex. I got some new insights from the shared post. Thank you
once again. :)


2015-03-22 9:25 GMT+05:30 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com:

 This is a very impressive initiative, thank you for sharing. It is a
 living example of what Mikel is talking about in yesterday's post:

 For government, OpenStreetMap is more than just data, it's a
 transformation

 http://openstreetmap.us/2015/03/government-and-openstreetmap/



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Re: [Talk-at] Tupalo: OSM Quelle?

2015-03-22 Thread Markus Mayr

Der Großteil der POIs kommt meines Wissens nach von Herold.


Am 2015-03-22 um 08:14 schrieb martin ringer:
Die Daten der Homepage sind mehrere Jahr alt und absolut nicht 
aktuell. Woher kommen eigentlich die Daten, OSM dient nur als 
Landkarte. Die lokale Zuordnung stimmt auch nicht immer.




Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:52:11 +0100
From: p...@woelfel.at
To: talk-at@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-at] Tupalo: OSM Quelle?

Hallo,

sind definitiv OSM Daten, die Ortschaften, bei welchen ich noch nicht 
fertig bin mit dem mappen, sind auch hier nur halb fertig gerendert.


In den Urheberrechtserklärung 
http://tupalo.com/de/copyright_notice haben Sie nur einen Englisch 
Text, der ziemlich nach Standard Copy  Paste aussieht. ... styled in 
accordance with Title 17, United States Code, Section 512(c)... Der 
Sitz ist allerdings in Wien, also unterliegen sie österreichischen 
Urheberrecht und nicht dem US Copyright.


Es gibt sogar eine legal Adresse: le...@tupalo.com 
mailto:le...@tupalo.com


Ich schreib mal ein Mail hin.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Dipl.-Ing. Paul Wölfel

Email p...@woelfel.at mailto:p...@woelfel.at
Tel. +43 664 88 533 801
Lindengasse 31/1/11
1070 Wien
Austria


Am 21. März 2015 um 18:14 schrieb Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com 
mailto:werner.ma...@gmail.com:


Hi!

Also OSM kann ich bestätigen .. Quelle kann ich auch keine finden ..

2015-03-21 18:05 GMT+01:00 Markus Mayr
markus4mayr.li...@gmail.com mailto:markus4mayr.li...@gmail.com:
 Mir scheint Tupalo verwendet OSM Daten für die Landkarte rechts
neben den
 Suchergebnissen:
http://tupalo.com/en/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=city_id=

 Eine Quelle sehe ich nicht? Kennt jemand den Renderstil? Die
Tiles kommen
 von mqcdn.com http://mqcdn.com. Ist das MapQuest?

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[Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Hej,

Endnu engang undrer jeg mig over at øerne i dk optræder navnløse. Et blik på 
wikien (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place=island) viser, at de er 
lavetforkert: Ifgl wikien, skal man tilføje place=island og name=navn til en 
øs kystlinje. De sydfynske øer - og sikkert alle andre navnløse fynske øer - 
har alle en enkelt node med disse egenskaber.

Kystlinjerne har angivet fugro som kilde.

Er det OK at tilføje tags til øerne selv?

Vh,
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Re: [Talk-es] OSM y metro

2015-03-22 Thread Emilio Gómez Fernández
El 20 de marzo de 2015, 19:29, J. Yáñez inf...@openaliasbox.org escribió:

 Este es mi primer mensaje a esta lista, así que ante todo hola a todos.
 Estoy empezando a conocer esto de Openstreemap y de momento ando un poco
 perdido, per oespero contribuír con algo útil al proyecto en cuanto empiece
 a hacerme con este tinglado.

 De momento tengo un problema, o más bien una duda. Ni en la web ni en la
 aplicación Osmand parece haber una forma de calcular rutas en metro y otros
 transportes públicos, sólo parece poderse hacer para rutas en vehículos a
 motos, bicicleta y a pie. ¿Estoy en lo cierto o simplemente no he sabido
 encontrarlo?
 A mí también me gusta salir en bici, y en absoluto menosprecio la
 posibilidad de planear rutas en bici, pero sinceramente creo que para el
 usuario medio es mucho más importante poder buscar rutas en transporte
 público. ¿Hay que instalar algún complemento o simplemente estoy tonto y no
 he dado con la opción que permite esto que digo?


Hola.

Llevar a cabo lo que tú comentas es algo más complicado de lo que parece.
No vale solo digitalizar las rutas por donde pasa el autobús, metro, etc.
con sus paradas, sino también es necesario la tabla de horarios de la red
de transporte público, para que el motor de planificación de viajes
http://www.altergeosistemas.com/web/planificadores-viajes-multimodales/
sea efectivo. Estos datos asociados a la información geográfica se
almacenan en unos archivos específicos con unos modelos de datos
determinados, el más conocido es el GTFS. Estos feeds los deberían generar
y publicar las empresas de transporte público, pero no es muy común.

¡Ojo! Esto no quiere decir que tener una buena cartografía de OSM con un
buen etiquetado no sea importante, ayuda y mucho, ya que es frecuente que
los planificadores utilicen OpenStreetMap como fuente de datos para generar
los grafos de enrutado.

Puedes ver un ejemplo de planificador de viajes multimodal para Santander
http://goo.gl/e9shbE en el que se utilizan datos proveniente de OSM,
Datos Abiertos Santander y la IDE de Cantabria entre otros. Tambien se
puede acceder mediante Android con el cliente de OpenTripPlanner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.usf.cutr.opentripplanner.androidhl=es
.

Un saludo.

Emilio Gómez
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

2015-03-22 Thread Jaisen Nedumpala
Hai Shravan and Arun Ganesh,

Yes, definitely you people can join us. we really want to improve the
OpenStreetMap in our area. And experienced hands could contribute a lot in
this regard. But the Village Panchayat is unable to fund for it right now.
We are in search of some other ways to meet the expenses. If somebody come
forward to help us in this regard, we will manage the rest of everything.
Thank you..

2015-03-22 9:27 GMT+05:30 shravan shravan.s...@gmail.com:

 Jaisen,

 This is amazing. I would like to join in too!

 Thanks,
 Shravan


On 22 March 2015 at 00:53, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hai,

 I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
 mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.

 Here is the link:

 http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/


 Cannot believe I completely missed this thread. This is an amazing story!
 Jaisen, what plans next? I'd love to join in.



 Valuable comments expected.

 2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.com:

 Hai,

   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
 offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
 conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
 and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)

 A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00
 am on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
 Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
 Koorachundu.

 A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at
 3.00 pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their
 experience during this programme.

 We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
 they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
 during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
 closing ceremony too.

 Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
 inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.

 We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
 coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
 those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.

 If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
 smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
 for this venture. :)

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[Talk-it] wikipedia in prima pagina su repubblica di oggi, viva!!!

2015-03-22 Thread matteo ruffoni
e a pag 23 il servizio completo sull'assemblea di modena
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Re: [Talk-dk] Under Krystallen - Plads og bygning

2015-03-22 Thread Michel Coene
Det helt principielt rette ting at gøre er nok at indsende en bug-report
til dem som laver softwaren...


2015-03-22 8:34 GMT+01:00 Asger Frank asg...@gmail.com:

 For nylig har der været en tråd Invisible dome med et helt tilsvarende
 problem, og en angiven workaround.
 Der savnede jeg egentlig også en kommentar eller refleksion over dilemmaet
 database/rendering.

 Mvh
 Asger Frank

 Den 21/03/2015 kl. 12.14 skrev Victor Valore vic...@valore.dk:

  Jeg har gjort et stykke arbejde med Under Krystallen som er en plads i
 København.
 
  På pladsen ligger en bygning, Krystallen beboet af Nykredit, som er
 sådan en frit svævende bygning hvor man kan gå under.
 
  Jeg har lavet pladsen som highway=pedestrian, area=yes og layer=-1.
 Layer for at angive at pladsens areal ligger under alt det udstyr/bygninger
 som er på pladsen.
 
  Når området bliver renderet på openstreetmap.org, så kan de fleste
 renderinger gennemskue dette udmærket, men default renderingen lægger
 pladsen ovenpå bygningen.
 
  Da jeg ved at vi mapper til databasen og ikke til en given rendering,
 så er jeg i tvivl om jeg skal gøre yderligere eller om jeg bare skal
 accepterer at default renderingen på openstreetmap.org har en
 skønhedsfejl?
 
  Kommentarer og synspunkter modtages gerne.
 
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Re: [Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:57:47 skrev Anders Lund:
 Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:50:58 skrev Michael Andersen:
  Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:34:45 skrev Anders Lund:
Bortset fra det er det helt ok at redigere/finpudse kystlinier og at
tilføje relevante tags. Vær blot forsigtig med ikke at efterlade
huller

:)
   
   Super, jeg vil straks gøre et forsøg. Det er nok et større arbejde at nå
   landet rundt, men måske vil nogen hjælpe?
  
  Blandt andre jeg har redigeret kystlinien mange steder og har indtryk af
  at
  der ikke kan være ret mange steder tilbage hvor de ikke er redigerede, men
  det er aldrig nogen skade til at gå dem efter igen.
  
  Hvis du vil finpudse kystlinier (eller andre større linier/polygoner) i
  større stil vil jeg kraftigt anbefale at bruge JOSM's ¨Improve Way
  Accuracy funktion
  http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ImproveWayAccuracy, som gør
  arbejdet både væsentlig nemmere og sikrere.
 
 Jeg regner ikke med at lave om på kystlinjerne lige i denne omgang, men tak
 for tippet.
 
 Hjortø og Hjelmshoved har nu place=island og name=navn tags på deres
 kystlinjer, ind til videre (22/3 11:57) er det ikke slået igennem på de
 lavere zoomlevels, hvor de ellers har mest relevans. Men det kommer vel...

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/54.9681/10.4557

 Vh,
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Re: [Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:50:58 skrev Michael Andersen:
 Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:34:45 skrev Anders Lund:
   Bortset fra det er det helt ok at redigere/finpudse kystlinier og at
   tilføje relevante tags. Vær blot forsigtig med ikke at efterlade huller
   
   :)
  
  Super, jeg vil straks gøre et forsøg. Det er nok et større arbejde at nå
  landet rundt, men måske vil nogen hjælpe?
 
 Blandt andre jeg har redigeret kystlinien mange steder og har indtryk af at
 der ikke kan være ret mange steder tilbage hvor de ikke er redigerede, men
 det er aldrig nogen skade til at gå dem efter igen.
 
 Hvis du vil finpudse kystlinier (eller andre større linier/polygoner) i
 større stil vil jeg kraftigt anbefale at bruge JOSM's ¨Improve Way
 Accuracy funktion
 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ImproveWayAccuracy, som gør
 arbejdet både væsentlig nemmere og sikrere.

Jeg regner ikke med at lave om på kystlinjerne lige i denne omgang, men tak 
for tippet.

Hjortø og Hjelmshoved har nu place=island og name=navn tags på deres 
kystlinjer, ind til videre (22/3 11:57) er det ikke slået igennem på de lavere 
zoomlevels, hvor de ellers har mest relevans. Men det kommer vel...

Vh,
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Re: [Talk-dk] hvad er rundkørsler?

2015-03-22 Thread Michel Coene
Skilte er ikke den eneste måde man kan styre trafikken.  Veje kan også
naturlig være ensrettet, for eksempel når en vej bliver splittet med et
midterrabat.  De skal stadig mærkes som ensrettet for ikke at forvirre
routing software.
Disse tags er også gode at holde i baghånden:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle



2015-03-21 21:48 GMT+01:00 Niels Elgaard Larsen elga...@agol.dk:

 Hvad er vores kriterier for rundkørsler?

 som fx:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8120345
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/192952657
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146702887


 Jeg tror ikke, at de er skiltet som rundkørsler. Og måske ikke engang
 som ensrettede.

 På den anden side tror jeg, at man kunne komme i problemer, hvis man
 fulgte OSM og troede, at man kunne køre venstre om.

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Re: [Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:12:30 skrev Anders Lund:
 Er det OK at tilføje tags til øerne selv?

Forstået som kystlinjen, selvfølgelig.

Vh,
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Re: [Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Michael Andersen
Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:34:45 skrev Anders Lund:

  Bortset fra det er det helt ok at redigere/finpudse kystlinier og at
  tilføje relevante tags. Vær blot forsigtig med ikke at efterlade huller
  :)
 Super, jeg vil straks gøre et forsøg. Det er nok et større arbejde at nå
 landet rundt, men måske vil nogen hjælpe?

Blandt andre jeg har redigeret kystlinien mange steder og har indtryk af at 
der ikke kan være ret mange steder tilbage hvor de ikke er redigerede, men det 
er aldrig nogen skade til at gå dem efter igen.

Hvis du vil finpudse kystlinier (eller andre større linier/polygoner) i større 
stil vil jeg kraftigt anbefale at bruge JOSM's ¨Improve Way Accuracy funktion 
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ImproveWayAccuracy, som gør 
arbejdet både væsentlig nemmere og sikrere.


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Re: [Talk-de] Frage zum Mappen von Gemüsefeldern - Praktikabilität bedenken

2015-03-22 Thread tshrub

Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:

Am 19. März 2015 um 11:55 schrieb goegeo goe...@gmx.de:


1. Dauergrünland (Tag: landuse=meadow)
2. Ackerbauflächen (Tag: landuse=farmland)




nach meinem Verständnis ist das bereits so, dazuhin gibt es dann noch
orchard für Baumplantagen, z.B. Oliven, Äpfel, Orangen etc. und
vineyard für Weinberge.

Was Du aufzählst (Spargel, Erdbeeren, Getreide, Kartoffeln und mehr) ist
alles farmland.

es gibt auch für nur ein Jahr eingesätes Grünland.

Neben den oben genannten, nutze ich ebenso die
Tag: landuse=meadow für Grünland, ergo mehrjährige Wiesen  Weiden
Tag: landuse=farmland für offenen Boden, Land, das über mehrere Jahre 
hinweg gepflügt wird, also auch so kurzfristige Futterwieseneinsaat 
(sofern erkennbar bzw. wäre das zu beobachten).



Es gibt auch weitständige Oliven- oder seltener Apfelkulturen (da in 
anderem Klima), die ackerähnlich aussehen, da regelmäßig umgebrochen.
Die zähle ich auch zu orchard. Bisschen unsicher bin ich mir dabei 
aber manchmal.



Gemüsearten würden dann in Untertags benannt - und die müsste der Tagger 
dann aktuell halten, da sie ja öfter wechseln?

Beständig und leider zunehmend muss ich dieses verwenden
landuse=farmland
species:Zea mays


Grüße




Gruß,
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Re: [Talk-dk] Under Krystallen - Plads og bygning

2015-03-22 Thread Asger Frank
For nylig har der været en tråd Invisible dome med et helt tilsvarende 
problem, og en angiven workaround.
Der savnede jeg egentlig også en kommentar eller refleksion over dilemmaet 
database/rendering.

Mvh
Asger Frank

Den 21/03/2015 kl. 12.14 skrev Victor Valore vic...@valore.dk:

 Jeg har gjort et stykke arbejde med Under Krystallen som er en plads i 
 København.
 
 På pladsen ligger en bygning, Krystallen beboet af Nykredit, som er sådan 
 en frit svævende bygning hvor man kan gå under.
 
 Jeg har lavet pladsen som highway=pedestrian, area=yes og layer=-1. Layer for 
 at angive at pladsens areal ligger under alt det udstyr/bygninger som er på 
 pladsen.
 
 Når området bliver renderet på openstreetmap.org, så kan de fleste 
 renderinger gennemskue dette udmærket, men default renderingen lægger pladsen 
 ovenpå bygningen.
 
 Da jeg ved at vi mapper til databasen og ikke til en given rendering, så er 
 jeg i tvivl om jeg skal gøre yderligere eller om jeg bare skal accepterer at 
 default renderingen på openstreetmap.org har en skønhedsfejl?
 
 Kommentarer og synspunkter modtages gerne.
 
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Re: [Talk-dk] Øer

2015-03-22 Thread Anders Lund
Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:30:06 skrev Michael Andersen:
 Mandø er tagget på denne måde, men i stedet for Mandø står der Region
 Syddanmark på samme måde som tilfældet er med de sydfynske øer. Har pt ikke
 styr på om der er tale om en bug i stylesheet eller om der er noget vi kan
 gøre ved det.

Jeg er en stor modstander af renderingen af regionerene, som den er lavet. Men 
det er noget andet en ønavnet, som har en anden farve og stil.

 Bortset fra det er det helt ok at redigere/finpudse kystlinier og at tilføje
 relevante tags. Vær blot forsigtig med ikke at efterlade huller :)

Super, jeg vil straks gøre et forsøg. Det er nok et større arbejde at nå 
landet rundt, men måske vil nogen hjælpe?

Vh,
Anders


 Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:15:26 skrev Anders Lund:
  Søndag den 22. marts 2015 11:12:30 skrev Anders Lund:
   Er det OK at tilføje tags til øerne selv?
  
  Forstået som kystlinjen, selvfølgelig.
  
  Vh,
  Anders
  
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[OSM-talk-be] weekly osm news

2015-03-22 Thread Marc Gemis
fyi

 The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
 English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
 openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu


regards

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Re: [Talk-at] Tupalo: OSM Quelle?

2015-03-22 Thread martin ringer
Die Daten der Homepage sind mehrere Jahr alt und absolut nicht aktuell. Woher 
kommen eigentlich die Daten, OSM dient nur als Landkarte. Die lokale Zuordnung 
stimmt auch nicht immer.


Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:52:11 +0100
From: p...@woelfel.at
To: talk-at@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-at] Tupalo: OSM Quelle?

Hallo,
sind definitiv OSM Daten, die Ortschaften, bei welchen ich noch nicht fertig 
bin mit dem mappen, sind auch hier nur halb fertig gerendert. 
In den Urheberrechtserklärung haben Sie nur einen Englisch Text, der ziemlich 
nach Standard Copy  Paste aussieht. ... styled in accordance with Title 17, 
United States Code, Section 512(c)... Der Sitz ist allerdings in Wien, also 
unterliegen sie österreichischen Urheberrecht und nicht dem US Copyright. 
Es gibt sogar eine legal Adresse: le...@tupalo.com
Ich schreib mal ein Mail hin.
Mit freundlichen GrüßenDipl.-Ing. Paul Wölfel
Email paul@woelfel.atTel. +43 664 88 533 801Lindengasse 31/1/111070 WienAustria


Am 21. März 2015 um 18:14 schrieb Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com:
Hi!



Also OSM kann ich bestätigen .. Quelle kann ich auch keine finden ..



2015-03-21 18:05 GMT+01:00 Markus Mayr markus4mayr.li...@gmail.com:

 Mir scheint Tupalo verwendet OSM Daten für die Landkarte rechts neben den

 Suchergebnissen: http://tupalo.com/en/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=city_id=



 Eine Quelle sehe ich nicht? Kennt jemand den Renderstil? Die Tiles kommen

 von mqcdn.com. Ist das MapQuest?



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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] ProRail spoordata import

2015-03-22 Thread Pander OpenTaal
On 03/21/2015 08:12 PM, JJJ Wegdam wrote:
 Beste Stefan,
 
 bedankt voor de link. De bestanden had ik toevallig al, maar ik wist
 niet dat ze op onderstaande website beschikbaar waren. De bestanden
 bevatten aardig wat overlap met de data op railmaps (wat handig is
 aangezien er voor deze bestanden dus geen inlog code nodig is). Dit
 geldt ook voor de stations en hun tags. Echter zijn er zowel op railmaps
 als op deze website bestanden beschikbaar die niet op beide locaties te
 vinden zijn. Zo gebruik ik van de bestanden van openov.nl erg graag de
 maximumsnelheden; deze staan heel precies per spoor online.
 In de maxspeed layer van ORM http://openrailwaymap.org/ had ik eerder
 al de baanvaksnelheden
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Baanvaksnelheden.png 
 verwerkt,
 maar de specifieke limieten per spoor zijn met onderstaande data
 haalbaar geworden. In bijgevoegde afbeelding een QGIS render volgens de
 legenda die ORM gebruikt.
 
 Mocht je verder nog in de stations geïnteresseerd zijn: op ORM heb ik
 reeds alle stationsafkortingen ingevoerd. Daarmee is de data van ProRail
 welke relevant is voor OSM eigenlijk al compleet. Geocodes ga ik
 namelijk per spoor toevoegen; dit volgens richtlijnen van ORM. Mocht je
 verder nog vragen hebben dan hoor ik het graag.
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
 Jeroen
 QGIS speed layer.png 
 
 Op 21 mar 2015 om 18:37 uur uur schreef Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de:
 
 Had je deze data al eens gezien? Dit is zeg maar de data van Prorail GIS.

 http://data.openov.nl/prorail/

 Ik vind zelf de stations erg interessant. Ben benieuwd of je dat uit
 Railmaps kunt krijgen.


Een mogelijke toepassing kan dit zijn:
https://code.google.com/p/osmand/issues/detail?id=2415

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[osm-ve] Come to SoTM US at the UN!!

2015-03-22 Thread alyssa wright
Hi!
Apologies for any cross posting but I'm writing to extend a warmest of
invitations to State of the Map US http://stateofthemap.us/ on June 6-8th
at the United Nations in the heart of New York City. This will be an
amazing conference as diverse in attendance as it's host city and at home
with the international work of the United Nations. Towards that end I
invite you to come to the conference! Our call for scholarships
http://stateofthemap.us/scholarships/ is open until March 15th, our call
for talks http://stateofthemap.us/talk/ is open until March 22nd, and I
am always open for any sponsors! ;)
SOTM US promises to be the largest State of the Map ever at a most amazing
venue. Please be part of the conversation. Everyone is welcome!
Let me know if you have any questions.Best,Alyssa Wright OpenStreetMap US
President.
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[Talk-es] Weeklyosm #242 en castellano

2015-03-22 Thread Carlos Alonso
Hola   
 
 El semanario #242 de weeklyosm, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo
en mundo OSM está en linea en español http:/www.weeklyosm.eu/?lang=es
 
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Re: [Talk-de] Frage zum Mappen von Gemüsefeldern - Praktikabilität bedenken

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 22.03.2015 um 12:12 schrieb tshrub:
 Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:
 Am 19. März 2015 um 11:55 schrieb goegeo goe...@gmx.de:

 1. Dauergrünland (Tag: landuse=meadow)
 2. Ackerbauflächen (Tag: landuse=farmland)

 nach meinem Verständnis ist das bereits so, dazuhin gibt es dann noch
 orchard für Baumplantagen, z.B. Oliven, Äpfel, Orangen etc. und
 vineyard für Weinberge.

 Was Du aufzählst (Spargel, Erdbeeren, Getreide, Kartoffeln und mehr) ist
 alles farmland.
 es gibt auch für nur ein Jahr eingesätes Grünland.
 
 Neben den oben genannten, nutze ich ebenso die
 Tag: landuse=meadow für Grünland, ergo mehrjährige Wiesen  Weiden
 Tag: landuse=farmland für offenen Boden, Land, das über mehrere Jahre
 hinweg gepflügt wird, also auch so kurzfristige Futterwieseneinsaat
 (sofern erkennbar bzw. wäre das zu beobachten).

+1

 Es gibt auch weitständige Oliven- oder seltener Apfelkulturen (da in
 anderem Klima), die ackerähnlich aussehen, da regelmäßig umgebrochen.
 Die zähle ich auch zu orchard. Bisschen unsicher bin ich mir dabei
 aber manchmal.

Streuobstwiesen und -acker sind wohl weder farmland, meadow noch orchard
und sollten eher einen eigenen (Sub-)Tag bekommen.

 Gemüsearten würden dann in Untertags benannt - und die müsste der Tagger
 dann aktuell halten, da sie ja öfter wechseln?
 Beständig und leider zunehmend muss ich dieses verwenden
 landuse=farmland
 species:Zea mays

Luftbilder sind meist nicht aktuell und was nützt es mir zu wissen, dass
vor drei Jahren dort eine bestimmte Spezies oder auch nur Wiese war.
Eigentlich bleibt Dir nichts anderes übrig als die Menschen welche dort
anbauen dazuzubringen, dass selber einzutragen.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-22 Thread Christian Quest
On s'oriente plutôt sur l'automne... ça laisse le champ libre au
printemps à des SOTM nationaux, à l'été à des SOTM continentaux et à
l'automne on termine l'année en beauté ;)


Le 22/03/2015 12:01, althio a écrit :

 À prendre en compte ? Entre autres événements, la compétition et la
 finale du championnat de football Euro2016 :
 10 juillet 2016

 2015-03-12 15:00 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr
 mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr:
  Je proposerai bien un SOTM 2016 à Paris... vu que la proposition pour
  2015 n'avait pas eu de réponse.
 
  Pour le lieu, Jean avait des pistes du côté de la Ville de Paris, je
  vais voir de mon côté sur d'autres sites que j'ai repéré.
 
  Pour la date, je verrai plutôt ça vers l'été ou l'automne.
 
  Qu'en pensez-vous ?
 
 
  Le 10/03/2015 22:36, Emilie Laffray a écrit :
  Pour ceux que ca interesse.
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: *Richard Weait* rich...@weait.com mailto:rich...@weait.com
 mailto:rich...@weait.com mailto:rich...@weait.com
  Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM
  Subject: Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
 
  The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.
 
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues
 
  Build a team for your city and bid to host the OpenStreetMap
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[OSM-talk-fr] Erreur de rendu ou de balise?

2015-03-22 Thread Fabien SK

Bonjour,

Suite au rajout d'une esplanade, j'ai constaté un problème de rendu au 
niveau des «layers» et je me demande si j'aurais fait une erreur avec 
les balises. La carte se trouve ici:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.73150/7.41737

Le point de repère principale est le rond-point Canton, qui se trouve 
au niveau «0». Les routes y arrivant sont également au niveau «0» sauf 
quelques une qui descendent (au nord) ou qui passent en dessous et qui 
ont un layer négatif.
J'ai rajouté l'esplanade Promenade Honoré II et je l'ai mise au niveau 
(layer) «1».


Le résultat est que l'esplanade s'affiche sous les routes et le 
rond-point. Sauriez-vous d'où pourrait venir le problème?
Au fait, les images aériennes se sont pas à jour et ne vous permettront 
pas de vous faire une idée.


Merci de votre attention, Fabien

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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote:

 The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
 English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
 openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

This is an excellent serve, thank you.

Might I suggest compiling and archiving, it on the OSM Wiki? We could
then use a script to distribute it to the talk pages of interested
mappers.

Wikipedia and Wikidata do this; for example:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Erreur de rendu ou de balise?

2015-03-22 Thread Stéphane Péneau

Bonjour,

Ce chemin est en layer=-1 mais sans tunnel=yes
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/176395398

Le giratoire est partiellement sous la promenade ?

Stf

Le 22/03/2015 16:33, Fabien SK a écrit :

Bonjour,

Suite au rajout d'une esplanade, j'ai constaté un problème de rendu au 
niveau des «layers» et je me demande si j'aurais fait une erreur avec 
les balises. La carte se trouve ici:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.73150/7.41737

Le point de repère principale est le rond-point Canton, qui se 
trouve au niveau «0». Les routes y arrivant sont également au niveau 
«0» sauf quelques une qui descendent (au nord) ou qui passent en 
dessous et qui ont un layer négatif.
J'ai rajouté l'esplanade Promenade Honoré II et je l'ai mise au 
niveau (layer) «1».


Le résultat est que l'esplanade s'affiche sous les routes et le 
rond-point. Sauriez-vous d'où pourrait venir le problème?
Au fait, les images aériennes se sont pas à jour et ne vous 
permettront pas de vous faire une idée.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Warnings Posted on Beaches

2015-03-22 Thread colliar
Am 21.03.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information
 A new information=warning_sign
 Could do it.  Most rendered maps will show the (i) symbol, which is a good
 first guess.

Think this belongs on tagging@ !

this has nothing to do with tourism.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote:

 The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
 English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
 openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

This is an excellent serve, thank you.

Might I suggest compiling and archiving, it on the OSM Wiki? We could
then use a script to distribute it to the talk pages of interested
mappers.

Wikipedia and Wikidata do this; for example:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next

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Re: [Talk-de] information=guidepost auf eine kreuzungsnode

2015-03-22 Thread Alexander Heinlein
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:23:06PM +0100, fly wrote:
  Solange man nicht bicycle=no für Wanderwegweiser (hiking=yes) mappt, ist
  das kein Problem.
 
  Leider macht beispielsweise das JOSM-Preset genau das. Klickt man dort zwei
  mal auf cycling, dann landet ein bicycle=no am Wegweiser. Das ist ja bei 
  allen
  Preset-Checkboxen so üblich, führt in diesem Fall aber zu 
  Routing-Problemen.
 
 JOSM can mittlerweile das no auch unterdrücken. Kannst ja nach einem
 enchancement fragen.

Ist aber leider auch nur eine halbe Lösung. Wenn man bicycle=no unterdrückt,
dann ist nicht mehr ersichtlich, ob der Wegweiser keine Fahrradrouten
enthält oder ob es bisher nur niemand eingetragen hat. Nicht vorhandene
Beschilderungen für Fahrradrouten können dann einfach nicht mehr
gekennzeichnet werden.

Grüße
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Re: [Talk-hr] scripta za OSM Notes (samo svoje nerjesene)

2015-03-22 Thread hbogner
Matija, daj ono što si ovdje i na talk@ listi objavio napiši tako da je 
prilagođeno kao post za http://osm-hr.org pa da i tmao objavimo.


Hrvoje

On 02/01/2015 05:35 PM, Matija Nalis wrote:

Za zainteresirane koji imaju isti problem kao ja: koriste dosta
OSM Notes, ali neke bugove ne uspiju odmah rijesiti, pa onda isti
ostanu zauvijek zatrpani medju onima rijesenima (a nikad vam se ne da
browsati kroz desetine/stotine stranica OSM-a da ih nadjete)

Slijedeca scripta ce pokazati samo nerjesene OSM Notes za zadani
username. Mozete ju isprobati na:
https://torres.voyager.hr/~mnalis/my-osm-notes/

source code je objavljen na https://github.com/osm-hr/my-osm-notes (GPLv3+)
(trebalo bi je uploadati na nas server u nekom trenu vjerojatno)

Komentari/prijedlozi/pull requestovi/itd dobrodosli...

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 02:33:38PM +0100, Matija Nalis wrote:

Meni bi bilo lakse za pratiti da mogu vidjeti vlastite OTVORENE notes. :(

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/832
Zna netko za neki 3rd party web da to moze pokazati?






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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Dan S
2015-03-22 15:54 GMT+00:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
 On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote:

 The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
 English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
 openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

 This is an excellent serve, thank you.

 Might I suggest compiling and archiving, it on the OSM Wiki? We could
 then use a script to distribute it to the talk pages of interested
 mappers.

It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
wiki? I can't think of an advantage, so there must be something I've
missed. The weekly already provides RSS feeds in multiple languages
(wow, great!) as well as email subscription, so it's easy for
interested people to keep track of it. Plus the weekly website has a
nice web design to suit its purpose.

 and of course the scripts used should be open source.

Usually, it's for the author of the script to decide if the script is
open source.

Best
Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 March 2015 at 16:20, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
 wiki?

So that anyone can edit it, of course.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 March 2015 at 16:20, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
 wiki?

So that anyone can edit it, of course.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Atlas Brna

2015-03-22 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Brno je pro mě na takhle akční skupinu asi dost z ruky. Ale zabývám se
vývojem mapových aplikací a tzv. portálů už pár let nad různými
technologiemi a taky se o tom snažím přemýšlet filosoficky.

Ono je otázka, jak ty data vůbec zpřístupnit a nabízí se použít některý z
existujících best practices. A nezačínal bych nutně mapovou aplikací, ale
spíš vybudováním dostupných služeb a publikační infrastruktury, včetně
metadat. Nevím jak moc rádi to uslyšíte, ale IPR Praha to podle mě vzal za
správný konec (jejich API pro data postavené nad ATOMem je v souladu se
směrnicí INSPIRE. Ještě lepší by bylo, spustit standadrní mapové služby
podle Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC OWS), ale chápu, proč to nakonec
neudělali).

A teprve až budou služby, mohou se nad tím případně postavit nějaké ty
mapové/datové prohlížečky.

Další člověk s názorem na věc - Martin Landa (ale vlastně i Jan Jelen
Michálek) budou v Brně příští pátek na akci @gishackathon
http://srazy.info/gishackathon/4617

Jachym

pá 20. 3. 2015 v 11:19 odesílatel Ladislav Nesnera nesn...@email.cz
napsal:

  Zdravím vespolek a pokusím se shrnout situaci kolem Atlasu Brna (zní
 mi to jako dobrý pracovní název).

 Na úplném počátku stojí nejspíš Jirka Ulip (radní pro otevřenost a IT
 https://www.brno.cz/sprava-mesta/volene-organy-mesta/rada-mesta-brna/),
 který obeslal pár lidí/skupin o kterých věděl, že se o otevřenost a Brno
 zajímají. K vzájemnému setkání se využil sraz OpenAltu (vždy 3. pátek v
 měsíci od 18 hod, místo se upřesní na webu ;-)). Proběhla ještě extra
 schůzka 13. 3. u Třech ocásků a něco zaznělo i na pondělním (16.3.) setkání
 Žít Brno + Pirtáti + veřejnost (vždy ob týden v Atlasu). Záměr je
 pokračovat ve spojování lidí/skupin, zmapovat stav, nevymýšlet vymyšlené,
 neplýtvat silami.

 Aktuální stav lidí a organizací zajímající se o tuto záležitost udržujeme
 zde - https://openalt.titanpad.com/atlas-brna

 Máme tedy lidi, kteří by chtěli mapovou prezentaci dat, ale tápou v
 technologickém uchopení. Pak ty, co umí technicky a případně už mají i
 nějaký výsledek. A konečně jistotu, že brněnská data prostě budou. Hledá se
 průnik.

 Dle mého má OSM na mnohé potřeby již připravené odpovědi nebo jsou
 relativně na dosah ruky. Bylo bylo tedy super, kdyby se osmičkáři též
 zapojili.

 Laďa


 On 18/03/15 10:13, Karel Volný wrote:

 zdar,


  Každopádně: otevírání prostorových dat http://opengeolabs.cz/publikace +
 odkaz na git


 jéžiš to je písmenek ... no odkaz pošlu dál a do pátečního srazu to zkusím
 nějak přelouskat, abych to mohl odprezentovat

 tož dík

 K.


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[Talk-GB] Fiction

2015-03-22 Thread Pmailkeey .
Could really do with a highway
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=fictitious
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Droad tag for roads with
fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found reference in an official
publication to a fictional streetname - and have found use of that name in
other official circumstances - despite the street in question having a
completely different name !


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Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-22 Thread stevea

Clifford and Serge write:

  Seattle has very defined neighborhoods and even sub-neighborhoods.

As you imply, Seattle may be an exception (more detailed explanation below).


Serge, this isn't an implication, it is stated and actual fact.


  ...But if we have access to
  administrative boundaries, I believe they should be in OSM. (At least until
  we have a viable alternative.)  Why not neighborhoods?

There are some good reasons to not consider this.

First, there are a growing number of people who believe that
administrative data is very useful, but breaks OSM's ground
observable rule. That is, someone who is present on the ground should
be able to observe the data in OSM. It's usually not possible to do
that with administrative boundaries.


And other times, Serge, it is 100% possible.  Signs which read 
Welcome to Hillcrest and Allied Gardens, a community of San Diego, 
City In Motion are real and fairly delineate where a community 
(neighborhood, quarter, district, suburb, area-within-city-limits...) 
begins and ends.  Seattleites agree that you enter Ballard when you 
cross the bridge, or that you are in Magnolia as you drive over 
Balmer rail yard via the Magnolia Bridge or West Dravus.  OSM can map 
these, OSM SHOULD map these, OSM DOES map these.  San Diego (and 
elsewhere) has signs -- therefore this is ground truth-able.  In 
Seattle (and other places) maybe there are or aren't signs, but when 
you ask locals, and 100% who are knowledgeable to answer say Yup, 
once past Salmon Bay on the Ballard Bridge, you are 'in' Ballard 
then OSM needs to say so, too.



Of course adminstrative boundaries are things people care about, but
there's a growing number of people who believe that this data would be
best served from some other dataset and then used in conjunction with
OSM data during output (ie rendering, geocoding, etc.) rather than be
integrated into OSM itself.


Growing?  Are you keeping track, Serge?  May we see your data, please?


The second reason to consider not entering neighborhood data into OSM
is that many towns and cities do not have hard and fast rules
regarding neighborhoods. Neighborhoods are subjective.


Neighborhoods CAN be subjective, but other times they are as solid as 
a city limit sign.  OSM should reflect that, especially when true.



Not only are
they subjective but neighborhoods have strong associations with issues
of personal identity, such as ethnicity (and) socio-economic status.
In other words, a conflict between two people in regards to a
neighborhood can have larger implications.


Heck, this is true between Israel and Palestinians, as well as every 
border dispute on Earth.  OSM copes.  Sure, maybe the DWG gets 
involved (I remember Chechnya...) and it is some effort to untangle 
the politics.  But we owe this effort (our best effort) to our map 
consumers.  We DON'T owe them let's throw up our hands because there 
is no line drawn on the ground.  Too many people who consume our 
(and every other) map believe boundaries to be such an integral part 
of map that the concept of boundaries to delineate the names and 
features of place will never go away.  Hey, I know that astronauts 
looking at Earth don't see boundaries.  But they aren't making a map. 
We are.



Imagine if Bob and Alice conflict on where a neighborhood boundary is
inside OSM. The issue escalates to an edit war and the DWG is called
in to resolve the conflict. Let's say that Frank is our DWG member.
How is Frank supposed to resolve the conflict between Alice and Bob?


Is there a sign?  Done.  Are there public published (e.g. city 
government) geo data?  Well, less done, but still done.  The latter 
might not be on the ground verifiable but such data DO represent 
the will of the People.  I believe OSM can take that as not 
nothing even if it is not zealously on the ground verifiable.  How 
do we justify every other boundary in OSM?  We can't see THOSE, 
Serge, can we?



Often...administrative recognition is not in alignment with the people.


This is a contradiction; see above.


I imagine this would be especially an issue with neighborhoods where
lots of the under-represented populations live.


I don't, so I suppose we can agree to disagree.


I suspect you can see where this could all be problematic... That's
why I'm not in favor of this data being inside OSM. I think it'd be
better for a different dataset that OSM tools can then consume.


I don't, so I suppose we can agree to disagree.

Tenets of our map like on the ground verifiable are important, but 
only to the extent they are widely and consistently respected. 
Boundaries, in our map since Day 1 and never-to-be-eradicated (I'm 
just being realistic) totally violate that spirit, so this argument 
rings hollow to me.  Just because our data police find their work 
difficult doesn't mean they get a pass on rolling up their sleeves 
and doing it:  they knew the work was work when they signed up.  They 
don't get to hide behind inconsistent 

[OSM-talk] Can't render map on Android's webview

2015-03-22 Thread Arseniy Taradonov
Hi

My app generates a html report with OSM (via leafletjs). OSM looks well
when I open report in FF for Android and in any browser on my desktop. The
OSM map isn't visible when open the report via the WebView component from
my app. Can someone tell if it is a bug or the OSM isn't allowed for the
Adndroid WebView component?

Thank you
Arseny
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Re: [Talk-GB] state of the map 2015

2015-03-22 Thread Jo Walsh
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015, at 06:17 PM, Bob wrote:
 Does anyone have any idea why this was cancelled and why other bidders
 arn't taking over.

I'm sure i read a blog or perhaps diary entry with a lot more detail
than in
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2015/02/25/openstreetmap-events-in-2015/
but can't find it,g

The gist of the the matter as i recall it was that the Venice bid was
preferred but the dates were not; SotM US already had dates too close.
and the best alternative dates were beset by an International Exposition
of Something, and finding accomodation was going to be impossible. And
by the time all this was realised it was too late it was too late for
the small, inexperienced WG to figure out a replacement path. 

So i guess some people will be going to SotM US instead and it probably
will be the biggest ever sotm but supposedly a regional one. Not sure
about that, i'd have been much more likely to bust a gut to get there if
it had been the main sotm, but not a -us spinout with parochial
concerns...


zx

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[Talk-GB] Seasonal greetings

2015-03-22 Thread Pmailkeey .
I see spring has arrived and the saplings are now bushy trees with brown
trunks.

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Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:

 Looking at King County, especially Seattle, it appears that a number of
 the place=hamlet are actually neighborhoods. We have been reluctant to add
 neighborhood borders because of prior discussions on the mailing list
 which, in essence, believe that neighborhoods don't have defined borders.
 While I believe Seattle and others do have defined borders, I really don't
 want to fight this all over.


I believe the wiki mentions a method for defining boundaries of
neighborhoods, which if they're actually boundaries that exist, then
there's not much reason not to add them.
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Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-22 Thread stevea
In Santa Cruz county (California), each place=* tag has been 
carefully compared to local knowledge and a wonderful reference 
(book) I have called Santa Cruz County Place Names: A Geographical 
Dictionary by author Donald Thomas Clark, published by the Santa 
Cruz Historical Trust.  At over 500 pages, it is a wonderful 
reference, and is rather clear on whether something is completely 
historical or accurate currently (the book is a bit dated, being 
published in 1986, but I have the 2nd edition from 2008).  The author 
was the first librarian at UC Santa Cruz and wrote a similar tome for 
Monterey County (also excellent).


Maybe you have or maybe you don't have such a similar (excellent) 
resource for your community.  I wish everybody did.  But you either 
DO have or CAN GET local knowledge (everywhere on Earth FOR 
everywhere on Earth) that can yield reliable, human sourced data for 
OSM to use.


And maybe these data are or maybe these data are not on the ground 
verifiable, in which case I leave it up to you whether they should 
or should not be in OSM.  If a lonely crossroads gas station with a 
friendly owner says Yep, it's called Orchard Crossroads around 
here... that's good enough for me to put a hamlet into OSM -- I 
don't need a sign to tell me, the man who knows it to be true just 
did.


Retagging hamlets isn't something that can or should be mechanized by 
a bot.  It is going to take real effort, meaning local knowledge 
crafted by human beings.  Hm, this sounds like a good basis upon 
which to recruit more volunteers for our project


SteveA
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[Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-22 Thread Minh Nguyen
tl;dr: I'm against a blanket rule when it comes to administrative 
boundaries. They're really nuanced, and so should we.


On 2015-03-22 04:32, Serge Wroclawski wrote:

Imagine if Bob and Alice conflict on where a neighborhood boundary is
inside OSM. The issue escalates to an edit war and the DWG is called
in to resolve the conflict. Let's say that Frank is our DWG member.
How is Frank supposed to resolve the conflict between Alice and Bob?
Often neighborhoods don't have administrative recognition, or
administrative recognition is not in alignment with the people. I
imagine this would be especially an issue with neighborhoods where
lots of the under-represented populations live.


This is an important consideration. As I mentioned in a footnote 
earlier, even a city with strong neighborhood organization can have 
boundary disputes. However, the problem exists for administrative 
boundaries in general, all the way up to admin_level=2 boundaries that 
cut right across ethnic fault lines.


My point was that we should map neighborhood boundaries in cities where 
doing so requires little editorial judgment, thanks to signage, 
distinctive lamp posts, etc. And we are quite clear (via the tag value 
administrative) that this isn't the only way by which a community can 
be delimited. As numerous threads have pointed out, the USPS has very 
different ideas of location (ZIP codes), but that's OK.


When it comes to all our discussions around *administrative* boundaries, 
I like this two-point test as a rule of thumb:


1. Are people or property governed differently on one side versus the other?

2. Is this distinction observable on the ground?

Municipalities generally pass both points. Congressional districts pass 
#1 but not #2. CDPs generally fail both. School districts can be 
observed, but not with the granularity required for mapping a boundary. 
City neighborhoods may pass one, both, or neither. Maybe all the locals 
you interview can agree on the name of a neighborhood but not its shape 
-- in which case it should be nothing more than a POI.


Which brings me to Serge's other point:


First, there are a growing number of people who believe that
administrative data is very useful, but breaks OSM's ground
observable rule. That is, someone who is present on the ground should
be able to observe the data in OSM. It's usually not possible to do
that with administrative boundaries.


SteveA has responded more forcefully on this point, and so have I in the 
past. [1] Fortunately, Alice and Bob's disagreement sounds pretty 
clear-cut. If the city didn't go through the trouble of demarcating any 
part of the boundary in some way, perhaps the general public shouldn't 
expect OSM to reproduce their two neighborhoods' boundaries at all. But 
I see no reason why such a decision would impact boundaries with very 
different characteristics.


-*-*-*-

Serge's focus on verifiability relates to a boundary I've spent a lot of 
time on lately, so I'm going to go way over my word limit.


Last month, I reminded this list that state borders along the Ohio River 
actually follow the river's historical northern bank, not its 
present-day thalweg or centerline. [2] Even if you send a diver into the 
river, there isn't always going to be a natural feature to verify OSM 
data against. We have a few options:


1. Try to be as accurate as possible by tracing USGS topo maps. Treat 
these borders as a practical exception to the on-the-ground rule. Use 
the source tag rigorously.


2a. Conflate the state borders with the current thalweg. We'd give Ohio 
and Indiana various islands and dams that actually belong to Kentucky 
and West Virginia, ignoring the Supreme Court ruling. We'd be putting 
intentionally inaccurate data into OSM.


2b. Conflate the state borders with the current northern bank, siding 
with Kentucky and again ignoring the Supreme Court ruling. We'd give the 
entire river to Kentucky and West Virginia, including riverboat casinos 
that keep to the Indiana side but are illegal in Kentucky.


3. Omit the river boundaries but leave the rest of the state lines 
intact. This approach introduces technical problems like broken 
multipolygon relations and just confuses people. Where does West 
Virginia end?


4. Omit the entire boundaries of states that border the Ohio River. 
It'll look like a mistake, so people will helpfully and sloppily add the 
boundaries back in.


5. Omit all state lines, everywhere, throwing away lots and lots of 
fixup work done with care by volunteer mappers. And all because Kentucky 
wanted the whole river.


Everyone agrees the river is the boundary, just not what the river 
means. In this case, I say we hold our noses and go with #1 as the most 
accurate, least disruptive approach. [3]


[1] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010162.html
[2] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2015-February/014307.html

[3] 

[Talk-GB] state of the map 2015

2015-03-22 Thread Bob
Does anyone have any idea why this was cancelled and why other bidders arn't 
taking over.

cheers bob



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Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Simon Poole
I really have to second Richard on this, thank you to the weekly OSM team.

However I do wish we could make it more accessible/known for
non-insiders (this is less a failing of the editorial team and more a
general issue). Right now you need to be at least subscribed to a
mailing list to be made aware that it exists.

Simon

Am 22.03.2015 um 01:04 schrieb Richard Weait:
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
 English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
 openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu
 
 
 Thank you for assembling these!
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

2015-03-22 Thread Dave F.

Look in the wiki under key:name.

On 22/03/2015 23:31, Pmailkeey . wrote:
On 22 March 2015 at 21:44, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu 
mailto:t...@compton.nu wrote:


On 22/03/15 21:30, Pmailkeey . wrote:

Could really do with ahighway
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=fictitious
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Droad tag
for roads
with fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found
reference in an
official publication to a fictional streetname - and have
found use of
that name in other official circumstances - despite the street in
question having a completely different name !


Well highway=fictitious would imply the road is fictitious, not
the name.

I suspect not:name= is what you want - that is what we normally
use to record names erroneously asserted in official sources.

Tom

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Well, you could have fictitious highways - places you can drive along 
that aren't highways !
But yes, I was more thinking of name so 'fictitious name' within a 
highway perhaps would be better.


The problem with not:name is that people may legitimately be calling 
the road that name even though it's not called that name. Not:name is 
fine when it's an error.



On 22 March 2015 at 22:02, Andrew Black andrewdbl...@googlemail.com 
mailto:andrewdbl...@googlemail.com wrote:


Can you give an example where it might be useful.


I'm aware of The Mousetrap which is well-known locally but is 
certainly not the correct name for the road - but as I'm not aware of 
the correct name - if it even has one - so The Mousetrap has gone in 
under 'name'. We have also Frying Pan (from a murder with the said 
implement many years ago) And we also have Anfield Road which has 
been attached to the side of a building as a 'life-size' sticky label 
on a 'non-road'.


I'm trying to think is there an 'alt:name' ? but then, it still 
appears as being official. It's more than a slang name - if the 
authorities are using it in error.


Maybe 'unofficial name' - even if officially used !

How about 'AKA' as an attribute ? :)

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Re: [talk-au] Using roads dataset from data.sa.gov.au

2015-03-22 Thread Daniel O'Connor
For those of your that are interested, we've made a fair number of
improvements to the process and edited quite a large number of ways.

You can see the improvement via http://qa.poole.ch/ - compared to other
states/places, South Australia is showing a very low density of errors. New
Zealand, Northern Territory and Tasmania seem comparable or slightly better.

There are approximately 5000 unnamed roads remaining, and 4000 naming
differences to check after that.
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Re: [Talk-es] OSM y metro

2015-03-22 Thread Roberto geb
Bienvenido. Entiendo que puede resultar confuso por la semejanza de
nombres,  pero OsmAnd y OSM no son lo mismo: OSM es como una base de datos
que recoge datos geográficos mundiales, mientras que Osmand es una
aplicación geográfica para Android que utiliza datos de OSM,que
efectivamente no planifica rutas de transporte público. Puedes acceder a la
lista de discusión de OsmAnd en Google Groups. Esta lista es sobre OSM.
El 20/03/2015 19:29, J. Yáñez inf...@openaliasbox.org escribió:

 Este es mi primer mensaje a esta lista, así que ante todo hola a todos.
 Estoy empezando a conocer esto de Openstreemap y de momento ando un poco
 perdido, per oespero contribuír con algo útil al proyecto en cuanto empiece
 a hacerme con este tinglado.

 De momento tengo un problema, o más bien una duda. Ni en la web ni en la
 aplicación Osmand parece haber una forma de calcular rutas en metro y otros
 transportes públicos, sólo parece poderse hacer para rutas en vehículos a
 motos, bicicleta y a pie. ¿Estoy en lo cierto o simplemente no he sabido
 encontrarlo?
 A mí también me gusta salir en bici, y en absoluto menosprecio la
 posibilidad de planear rutas en bici, pero sinceramente creo que para el
 usuario medio es mucho más importante poder buscar rutas en transporte
 público. ¿Hay que instalar algún complemento o simplemente estoy tonto y no
 he dado con la opción que permite esto que digo?

 Otra cosa sobre Osmand. ¿Hay alguna forma de que al buscar una dirección
 no se nos envíe e esa pantalla en la que hay que introducir por una parte
 el país, por otra la ciudad, por otra la calle y por otra el número de la
 calle? La verdad es que me parece de lo más torpe y farragoso. Lo suyo es
 que funcione como las aplicaciones de Gmaps o Here y que uno si está, por
 ejemplo, en el mapa de Valencia, ponga Blasco Ibáñez 62 y se le muestre
 directamente el resultado de la Avenida de Blasco Ibáñez nº 62 de Valencia
 capital. Eso es así y no tiene remedio o quizá también mi novatez me está
 haciendo ir por el camino enrevesado?


 Gracias y saludos.

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[Talk-dk] adresseposition

2015-03-22 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Hvad er der sket med:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3391506535

Når jeg slår op på AWS får jeg

 koordinater: [
  11.4397830479696,
  55.5713548335101
],

Hvilket er meget tæt på den position knuden havde i OSM fra 13 til 10
dage siden.

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[Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Bruno Remy
Bonjour à tous,

D'après vous, quel serait le tag idéal pour les fontaines-jeux d'eau
installées dans les parcs municipaux pour enfants?
Exemple:
http://soucyaquatik.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/neuville-81-600x380.jpg

leisure=water_park me parait dédié à des grosse installations de type parc
à thème, donc inapproprié.


Merci !

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Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
A while ago I was also looking for a tag for this type of amenity but
couldn't find anything appropriate. I guess in a way they're a type of
leisure=playground -- so maybe tag them as that, plus some additional tag
(playground=...?) for the fact that they're a water-playground? Or maybe
coming up with a new tag would be the better way. I don't even know what
the correct term for these is, though.

 Harald.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:11 PM Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bonjour à tous,

 D'après vous, quel serait le tag idéal pour les fontaines-jeux d'eau
 installées dans les parcs municipaux pour enfants?
 Exemple:
 http://soucyaquatik.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/neuville-81-600x380.jpg

 leisure=water_park me parait dédié à des grosse installations de type
 parc à thème, donc inapproprié.


 Merci !

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Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Richard Weait
2015-03-22 18:09 GMT-04:00 Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com:
 Bonjour à tous,

 D'après vous, quel serait le tag idéal pour les fontaines-jeux d'eau
 installées dans les parcs municipaux pour enfants?
 Exemple:
 http://soucyaquatik.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/neuville-81-600x380.jpg

 leisure=water_park me parait dédié à des grosse installations de type parc
 à thème, donc inapproprié.

It's commonly called a splash pad, but tag usage seems scattered.

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=splash_pad#values

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_pad

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Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:


 It's commonly called a splash pad, but tag usage seems scattered.

 http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=splash_pad#values

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_pad

 If you look at the discussion page of the wikipedia entry and the external
links, it seems that the term is not universally established and/or the
name of a specific company offering these kinds of things.

Maybe this discussion should be taken to the tagging list?

 Harald.
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[Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-22 Thread Richard Welty
in the traditional 8:30pm ET slot - Martijn is traveling so i get
to pick the time.

i'll post a link here when i have it.

richard

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[OSM-talk] Humanitarian layer in osm.org

2015-03-22 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
I see Spain, Portugal and Andorra in pink colour and Ucraine flooded
from zoom level 4 up. Something wrong with the rendering. Nothing like
that is happening with the other layers.

Cheers,

Rafael.

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Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls,
.xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer,  non os abro.

Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros

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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

2015-03-22 Thread Yogesh योगि
Hi Jaisen,

On Saturday 21 March 2015 07:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala wrote:
 Hai,

 I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.

 Here is the link:

 http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/

One of the fine examples of using OSM at the grassroots level.
Well documented with nice pictures, will certainly help other local
governments engaged in similar efforts. :) Loved the Malayalam map and
GNOME being used in Malayalam. :) :)




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Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

2015-03-22 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 Portland also needs help.  Seems whenever the map gets fixed, someone goes
 through and stomps the name back to something incorrect like Metropolitan
 Area Express or Portland Streetcar instead of the subdivision name, and
 pull things like putting the line of the service running on the tracks as
 ref=*.   God help you if you actually try to point it out, Grant Humphries
 or Peter Dobratz will get bitchy about it...


For those following along from home, please see the following note in
Portland, Oregon:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/335545

As you can see, I closed out this note (twice).  The issues in this note
are too vague and refers to the whole Portland metropolitan area.  Also,
the actual area where this note is located is a new section of track which
is not scheduled to be operational until September 2015.  There are a bunch
of things in this immediate area with construction or proposed tags since
the area is still very much in flux.

There was a similar situation which I resolved a few months ago.  Paul put
some OSM notes in downtown Portland saying he objects to the use of
oneway=yes tags on OSM Ways for Portland area light rail and street car
lines.  I looked into the history and determined that there were a few
cases where Grant Humphries had added the oneway=yes tag and Paul had came
back later and removed the oneway=yes tag, only to have Grant Humphries add
the oneway=yes tag in a subsequent edit.  I sent OSM private messages to
both Grant and Paul in December.  Paul never responded to my OSM private
message on this subject.  However, I did have a productive conversation
with Grant.  Grant was not even aware that he had been undoing some of
Paul's edits. In any case, we came to the agreement that oneway=yes does
not make sense for Portland area railways and I removed the tag as part of
my effort to update the route relations to use the new route_master format
with a separate route relation for each direction of travel.  For what it's
worth, there are actually signs on the ground that tell pedestrians to look
both ways before crossing these train tracks and the new route relations
implicitly include the standard direction of travel along the railway
because the rail segments are added to the relation in the other they are
traversed.

However, in the case of the above note, I can't discern exactly which tags
Paul is objecting to, nor can I find any specific information on the OSM
wiki about exactly what should be in the name tag on railways.  In the
note, Paul says It's not rocket surgery to create the relations and have
things named like Banfield Mainline like it's supposed to be instead of
Metropolitan Area Express, which is wrong.  I have no idea what Paul is
talking about here.  The phrase Banfield Mainline does not occur in the
OSM wiki, and I can't find anything on the internet to indicate exactly
what tracks would be best referred to as the Bainfield Mainline.  I moved
to Portland about 9 months ago, I often hear these tracks colloquially
referred to as the MAX, which is an acronym for Metropolitan Area
Express.  Or maybe MAX just refers to the name of the trains that run on
those tracks.

I do not have any objections to updates to Portland area railways to be
more correct/complete and/or consistent with the work SteveA is doing in
California.  For anyone doing these edits, it would be helpful to check the
OSM history on the affected Ways and communicate with anyone who has also
changed the tags that you would be changing.  Maybe even start with an
Oregon equivalent of the http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/California/Railroads wiki
page.  A bunch of the route relations for the Portland area are already
linked from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portland,_Oregon.

Peter
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[OSM-talk] How to report spam/abuse on the wiki?

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I noted a spam post to the wiki ( User:BrookMcIlvain ).
How do I report that?

I found a list of admins, but no real way to figure which one handles spam:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/System_Administrators

--
I'm happy to add good clear instructions to the wiki... as soon as I
learn what they are ;-)

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