Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Simon Ward wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:07:30AM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of >> >> relevance to this thread. >> > just tested, very promising ! and works like a charm on sid... I got a segfault using the wms layer from NASA -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:07:30AM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > >> There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of > >> relevance to this thread. > > > > /me suddenly gains an interest > > > > I'd already got an svn checkout but hadn't got as far as doing anything > > with it. I can at least make sure things build on Lenny and Sid. > > Note that the debian port isn't about making things run on Debian. > It's about integrating with the debian menu and other debian-ish > things. If you just want to run it on Debian checking out trunk and > typing `make' will work just fine. Yep, fine. I’d much rather have a package build that works than a self‐compiled install. Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Andy Allan wrote: >> I'll just point out that I got the trunk version working fine on >> Ubuntu without modifications, so people shouldn't be afraid to try it >> out. There were two dependencies (dang, I should have written them >> down) and a simple "make" worked fine. Yep. The branch introduces no new code yet; all it really contains is some nice packaging stuff for a Debian/Ubuntu style DE, correct build- dependencies for that environment etc. A standard $ fakeroot debian/rules binary will do the right thing on the branch, and entirely the wrong thing in trunk. Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > This should build and run it on Ubuntu: > [...] The osso and hildon stuff is Maemo-specific, and you don't need it for an Ubuntu build. You miss out on some nice dbus stuff to turn gpsd on and off and choice of project location using maemo-mapper, but that's all. -- Andrew Chadwick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Simon Ward wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) > wrote: >> Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself >> via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and >> you'd like write access. >> >> There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of >> relevance to this thread. > > /me suddenly gains an interest > > I'd already got an svn checkout but hadn't got as far as doing anything > with it. I can at least make sure things build on Lenny and Sid. Note that the debian port isn't about making things run on Debian. It's about integrating with the debian menu and other debian-ish things. If you just want to run it on Debian checking out trunk and typing `make' will work just fine. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: > Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself > via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and > you'd like write access. > > There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of > relevance to this thread. /me suddenly gains an interest I’d already got an svn checkout but hadn’t got as far as doing anything with it. I can at least make sure things build on Lenny and Sid. Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) > wrote: >> I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a >> corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. >> >> >> People who'd like to test osm2go out on the desktop (and, ahem, like to >> build things from source, and are running a recent Debian-based system) >> might like to try out: >> >> svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osm2go/branches/ports/debian > > I'll just point out that I got the trunk version working fine on > Ubuntu without modifications, so people shouldn't be afraid to try it > out. There were two dependencies (dang, I should have written them > down) and a simple "make" worked fine. This should build and run it on Ubuntu: $ svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osm2go/trunk osm2go $ cd osm2go $ sudo aptitude install libcurl3-openssl-dev libgoocanvas-dev libosso-dev libgpsmgr-dev libgpsbt-dev libosso-gnomevfs2-dev libhildonfm2-dev mce-dev libgoocanvas3 debhelper $ make $ src/osm2go ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: > I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a > corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. > > > People who'd like to test osm2go out on the desktop (and, ahem, like to > build things from source, and are running a recent Debian-based system) > might like to try out: > > svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osm2go/branches/ports/debian I'll just point out that I got the trunk version working fine on Ubuntu without modifications, so people shouldn't be afraid to try it out. There were two dependencies (dang, I should have written them down) and a simple "make" worked fine. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. People who'd like to test osm2go out on the desktop (and, ahem, like to build things from source, and are running a recent Debian-based system) might like to try out: svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osm2go/branches/ports/debian Working on freedesktop and Debian menu integration right now, though any feedback and patches at all will be gratefully accepted. The target environment is going to be - initially - small-screened netbook machines like EeePCs. I'll be syncing from trunk and integrating my changes back regularly too, so that ought to keep some of the desktop bloat some people have feared out of the core program. I'll upload some binary packages for common Debian-style systems later this week, once I've sorted out a package build script that works with our svn conventions. Apologies for the delay here. -- Andrew Chadwick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > wrote: > > I forgot to ask, do you have a public repository for osm2go or do you > only make release tarballs? Ævar, hi -- Current development is focusing on the Maemo "garage" svn repository: https://garage.maemo.org/scm/?group_id=830 svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osm2go/trunk Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and you'd like write access. There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of relevance to this thread. -- Andrew Chadwick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Ed Loach wrote: > It is IE7 fully patched, and I'm guessing (as it doesn't always > do it) that it is user error (me). It is probably that when I > switch from one tab to the wiki tab and back that the way > looks like it is still selected but in reality the flash bit > doesn't have focus. Right, gotcha. I thought it might have been IE - on any other browser, closing Potlatch with unsaved changes brings up a Javascript alert, something like "Are you sure? You have unsaved changes" etc. etc.. But I could never get it to work in IE: the only way I could find to successfully execute Javascript from ActionScript (to set/unset the "dirty" variable) made an annoying link-opening clack noise every time you called it. Which made editing hugely unpleasant and counter-intuitive. In fact, we've been talking "patches welcome" - maybe someone could help fix this one? http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/editors/potlatch/potlatch.as#L938 (note the IE line is commented out) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/osm2go-as-yet-another-desktop-tool--tp21020983p21031403.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Richard asked: > Ugh, that's horrid. What browser are you using? Other parts of > the window > shouldn't respond to keyboard events when an SWF (like > Potlatch) has focus. It is IE7 fully patched, and I'm guessing (as it doesn't always do it) that it is user error (me). It is probably that when I switch from one tab to the wiki tab and back that the way looks like it is still selected but in reality the flash bit doesn't have focus. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, > Define trivial. I can just speak for myself and it took me some minutes to be able to do anything useful in josm. Potlatch on the other hand gave me very nice and intuitive first few minutes, but i went in trouble once i tried to map things. Don't get me wrong: I am really not saying "all the existing software was crap so i had to write my own". I wanted to say: There was and is still a niche for other osm editors which i am trying to fill in a way that differs from the existing software. And the fact that my first version of osm2go looked pretty much mimiced the potlatch view should be taken as a compliment! The niches i saw were: Mobile usage and beginner friendlyness. The latter one will imho become more and more important with osm getting more attention from average people. Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Ed Loach wrote: >> I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from >> map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, >> but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab >> open for the wiki page to keyboard shortcuts > > Once people have stopped ing around with the API, I'm hoping to actually > have some time to spend on important things, like UI. You don't have enough dashes for "enhanc" > API 0.7 in 2011 and not before. :) API 0.7 after API 0.6, and not before. Lets not set unachievable target dates ;-) Cheers, Andy > cheers > Richard > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/osm2go-as-yet-another-desktop-tool--tp21020983p21030538.html > Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Ed Loach wrote: > I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from > map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, > but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab > open for the wiki page to keyboard shortcuts Once people have stopped ing around with the API, I'm hoping to actually have some time to spend on important things, like UI. API 0.7 in 2011 and not before. :) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/osm2go-as-yet-another-desktop-tool--tp21020983p21030538.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Ed Loach wrote: > I find it annoying that sometimes I press Enter to stop > editing a way, only for it to decide that I've clicked a link to > take me elsewhere (user page, usually, I think) and I have > to go back and repeat the last few edits. Ugh, that's horrid. What browser are you using? Other parts of the window shouldn't respond to keyboard events when an SWF (like Potlatch) has focus. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/osm2go-as-yet-another-desktop-tool--tp21020983p21030243.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
> JOSM imho isn't trivial for beginners. That may be where osm2go > can help > on the desktop. Define trivial. I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab open for the wiki page to keyboard shortcuts (especially where they differ from those in JOSM). I find it annoying that sometimes I press Enter to stop editing a way, only for it to decide that I've clicked a link to take me elsewhere (user page, usually, I think) and I have to go back and repeat the last few edits. It is getting easier over time as I use it more, but I started with JOSM initially. Actually, I tell a lie - when I first encountered the project I correcting the spelling of a road name using Potlatch and then wondered why my correction wasn't visible when I went back to view mode. I didn't know about weekly rendering of Mapnik or about other layers at that point (I hadn't even noticed the big plus in the corner or wondered what it did). At least once you've mastered downloading an area in JOSM and uploading changes everything else seems to be available on handy menus (or at the side of the screen if you want to add a tag manually). I use both, depending what I am doing. Recently I found that if I switched the GPS traces on in JOSM I could *see* the two stripes of a dual carriageway and the one in question was shifted a lane to one side (so one carriageway was where the other should have been and the other was missing the traces entirely), so I shifted all the nodes onto the traces using Potlatch because I could easily drag the map to get the next bit down the carriageway (for those interested it was the A12 in the UK from Colchester towards London until it lined up again). I also used Potlatch yesterday to fix a few things highlighted by the Data Consistency checker recently mentioned on the dev list (http://keepright.ipax.at ) which is under development (as in last time I looked it was using slightly outdated data and some of the issues highlighted locally I'd already corrected). I used JOSM yesterday to import photos next to my GPS traces to work out which of the marked points were postboxes and which bus stops (or a pub, or a post office). Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Till Harbaum wrote: > The big show stopper with potlatch was that everything > is stored in the database immediately, so you are always > afraid to damage things. Of course, patches are always welcome. :) The sole reason Potlatch doesn't have such an (optional) feature right now is that I haven't figured out a decent, newbie-friendly UI for conflict management. Conflict management isn't really an issue when you're redownloading from the server every minute or so; it is when you're clicking 'Upload' after an hour's editing. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/osm2go-as-yet-another-desktop-tool--tp21020983p21029742.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, Von: Ãvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > * The toolbar items don't have any tooltips - I've attached a patch > that fixes this which you may or may not want to use as-is Great, thanks. I applied it and it'll be part of the next release > * When I select a way and try to add a node to a way I can't add a > node where osm2go renders a direction arrow Oops ... i missed that. Thanks for the hint. > * It can't handle GPX tracks with multiple embedded tracks ("ignoring > additional track"). This applies to pretty much all of my tracks This should be rather simple to fix. > * There are no shortcut keys for anything - or maybe there are and > they only work on the nokia device. On the desktop it would be pretty > neat to have "a" for add node, "w" for way, "p" for split way etc etc. > The property dialog has the same problem Good idea. I am mainly addressing mobile/touchscreen users and beginners. Both don't have much need for shortcuts. But since they don't clutter the gui and are nearly invisible to beginners i'd appreciate something like this. Perhaps staying close to JOSM would be a good idea. Since you already asked for the repository: You are welcome to do such changes directly in the repository. Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Here you go: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osm2go Till - original Nachricht Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool? Gesendet: Di, 16. Dez 2008 Von: Ãvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > wrote: > > I forgot to ask, do you have a public repository for osm2go or do you > only make release tarballs? > --- original Nachricht Ende ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, > I had already planned to try osm2go on my eee (4G), where I try to use > josm, but the screen resolution is problematic; a debian package would > make me go from "sooner or later" to "right now" :) Would you be able to compile osm2go for the eee and give it a trial? Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, - original Nachricht > value. If you can manage to do both then do it, but I believe that if > you aim too much at large-screen users then you may get all sorts of > feature requests from that area which actually make the application > worse (or, at least, more clumsy) for the small screen/mobile use, and > that would be a pity. I totally agree. This is not meant to become the full-blown editor with all bells and whistles. Indeed JOSM seems to fultfill these demands already. As a desktop app i'd rather see this as a beginner tool. Something that potlatch might be. I remember my first steps in osm land as they aren't were long ago and i basically wanted to use potlatch as it seemed an easy entry. The big show stopper with potlatch was that everything is stored in the database immediately, so you are always afraid to damage things. As long as you don't select "upload" osm2go is completely safe for the main database. Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, i am afraid i don't get the relationship of your question with osm2go. Do you want to achieve this using osm2go? Till - original Nachricht Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool? Gesendet: Di, 16. Dez 2008 Von: Andre Schoonbee > Hi List > > I have a basic question: > > I have new data for some towns and also some national roads. I now need to > update the respective areas. This would mean I need to delete the current > roads and load the new data. > > By using Merkaartor I could download the respective town data, but how do I > download a larger area for the national road. > > Secondly, what is the best or correct process for updating (deletion > existing and adding new) road data for an area. > > Andre > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > --- original Nachricht Ende ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, Andre Schoonbee wrote: > By using Merkaartor I could download the respective town data, but how do I > download a larger area for the national road. You can do that using OSMXAPI (see Wiki entry "Xapi"). > Secondly, what is the best or correct process for updating (deletion > existing and adding new) road data for an area. If at all possible, it is always preferable to improve existing data, rather than deleting it and replacing it with something else. This keeps history intact. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi List I have a basic question: I have new data for some towns and also some national roads. I now need to update the respective areas. This would mean I need to delete the current roads and load the new data. By using Merkaartor I could download the respective town data, but how do I download a larger area for the national road. Secondly, what is the best or correct process for updating (deletion existing and adding new) road data for an area. Andre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? Editing on mobile devices or on devices with small screens in general is a big weakness in our current tool landscape. I halfway expected someone to make a "JOSM small screen edition" but nobody did; maybe that's because the JOSM developer community does not use small screens all that much. There is nothing to say (from my side) against another desktop editor but the small screen/mobile use is where osm2go really adds the most value. If you can manage to do both then do it, but I believe that if you aim too much at large-screen users then you may get all sorts of feature requests from that area which actually make the application worse (or, at least, more clumsy) for the small screen/mobile use, and that would be a pity. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? I don't think there is a real need for another desktop editor, but an editor focused on small device would probably work great on the netbooks, and binary packages for common linux distros would be very useful for those. I had already planned to try osm2go on my eee (4G), where I try to use josm, but the screen resolution is problematic; a debian package would make me go from "sooner or later" to "right now" :) -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I forgot to ask, do you have a public repository for osm2go or do you only make release tarballs? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? It certainly looks very promising. I downloaded 0.6 and tried it out and found some minor problems, most/all of which you're probably aware of. * The toolbar items don't have any tooltips - I've attached a patch that fixes this which you may or may not want to use as-is * When I select a way and try to add a node to a way I can't add a node where osm2go renders a direction arrow * It can't handle GPX tracks with multiple embedded tracks ("ignoring additional track"). This applies to pretty much all of my tracks * There are no shortcut keys for anything - or maybe there are and they only work on the nokia device. On the desktop it would be pretty neat to have "a" for add node, "w" for way, "p" for split way etc etc. The property dialog has the same problem But it certainly has potential. Most of the issues I listed are minor UI issues which are easy to fix and the core looks to be good, and it's fast & snappy. diff --git a/iconbar.c b/iconbar.c index 38fd4f9..686de63 100644 --- a/iconbar.c +++ b/iconbar.c @@ -168,12 +168,15 @@ GtkWidget *icon_add(GtkWidget *vbox, appdata_t *appdata, } static GtkWidget *tool_add(GtkWidget *toolbar, appdata_t *appdata, - char *icon_str, + char *icon_str, + char *tooltip_str, void(*func)(GtkButton*, gpointer)) { GtkWidget *item = GTK_WIDGET(gtk_tool_button_new( icon_widget_load(&appdata->icon, icon_str), NULL)); + gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(item, tooltip_str); + if(func) gtk_signal_connect(GTK_OBJECT(item), "clicked", (GtkSignalFunc)func, appdata); @@ -195,39 +198,39 @@ GtkWidget *iconbar_new(appdata_t *appdata) { gtk_toolbar_set_style(GTK_TOOLBAR(iconbar->toolbar), GTK_TOOLBAR_ICONS); /* */ - iconbar->trash = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, - "trash", on_trash_clicked); + iconbar->trash = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, + "trash", "Delete item", on_trash_clicked); /* */ gtk_toolbar_insert(GTK_TOOLBAR(iconbar->toolbar), gtk_separator_tool_item_new(),-1); - iconbar->info = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "info", on_info_clicked); + iconbar->info = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "info", _("Properties"), on_info_clicked); /* */ gtk_toolbar_insert(GTK_TOOLBAR(iconbar->toolbar), gtk_separator_tool_item_new(),-1); - iconbar->node_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "node_add", + iconbar->node_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "node_add", _("Add node"), on_node_add_clicked); /* */ gtk_toolbar_insert(GTK_TOOLBAR(iconbar->toolbar), gtk_separator_tool_item_new(),-1); - iconbar->way_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_add", + iconbar->way_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_add", _("Add way"), on_way_add_clicked); - iconbar->way_node_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_node_add", + iconbar->way_node_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_node_add", _("Add a node to a way"), on_way_node_add_clicked); - iconbar->way_cut = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_cut", + iconbar->way_cut = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_cut", _("Split way at a given node"), on_way_cut_clicked); - iconbar->way_reverse = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_reverse", + iconbar->way_reverse = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "way_reverse", _("Reverse way"), on_way_reverse_clicked); /* */ gtk_toolbar_insert(GTK_TOOLBAR(iconbar->toolbar), gtk_separator_tool_item_new(),-1); - iconbar->relation_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "relation_add", + iconbar->relation_add = tool_add(iconbar->toolbar, appdata, "relation_add", _("Add relation"), on_relation_add_clicked); gtk_box_pack_start(GTK_BOX(vbox), iconbar->toolbar, TRUE, TRUE, 0); ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe: > I suppose you didn't asked that if it was allready ready for linux distro, so > there might be an additionnal cost such as : > - package making > - compilation testing > - libraries dependencies > etc. You mean after writing 12.000 lines of code it may just be too much work writing a debian control file? > So yes, I'm interested, but unfortunetly don't have enough knowlege to help Ok, _that_'s a reason. Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
> "Porting costs"? What's that supposed to be? In the case of osm2go : - developpers's time I suppose you didn't asked that if it was allready ready for linux distro, so there might be an additionnal cost such as : - package making - compilation testing - libraries dependencies etc. So yes, I'm interested, but unfortunetly don't have enough knowlege to help > JOSM imho isn't trivial for beginners. That may be where osm2go can help > on the desktop. Sure ! but maybe no only to beginners -- sly sylvain letuffe ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe: > I'll be happy to give it a go, if the porting cost isn't too huge. "Porting costs"? What's that supposed to be? > JOSM is allready quite good, but in liberty, there is diversity... and one > editors and a half doesn't look enough to me JOSM imho isn't trivial for beginners. That may be where osm2go can help on the desktop. Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
> So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? I'll be happy to give it a go, if the porting cost isn't too huge. JOSM is allready quite good, but in liberty, there is diversity... and one editors and a half doesn't look enough to me #troll And java apps sucks.too much memory,... oups no, I didn't say that. #end_troll -- Sylvain Letuffe li...@letuffe.org qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? IMO it would fill the gap between JOSM and Potlatch. There's already Merkaartor in between, but I cannot judge how much it's used and how well it works. Just my two cents, ce ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?
Hi, osm2go is evolving faster than i expected and with first volunteers joining development things progress even faster, We recently implemented support for JOSMs elemstyle.xml file allowing us to display everything very close to the josm style. However, things didn't stop there and we have started to extend the format for e.g. dashed lines (next will likely be some way to describe bridges as potlatch displays them). Also Andrew wrote a mapnik like style which imho is the nicest style so far and which has been selected to be the osm2go default style. See http://www.harbaum.org/till/maemo/osm2go-0.6-7.jpg So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux machines? Till ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk