Re: [Talk-hr] Fwd: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden hbogner
As part of the same agreement w/ DG that allows us to open the Mapbox 
Satellite layer to OpenStreetMap tracing we are planning to update 
existing imagery with a huge 500,000km2 update. We just blogged this, 
the post comes with a tool to request particular areas to be updated. 
Let us know where we should be updating our Satellite layer next:


https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/

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[talk-ph] Tactical Pilotage Charts available as a Layer for JOSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Mark Cupitt
Dear All

We have just made the Tactical Pilotage Charts available for Humanitarian
Tracing and because I am in the Philippines, we decided to make them
available to Philippine Mappers Free of Charge. Whilst the maps are public
domain, our server costs are not, but hopefully this will help philippine
mappers to some degree by serving as a good reference for major roads water
bodies and places, etc.

To see them on line, go to http://disasternet.org Click on the Map Icon
(Click to Start), choose Menu - Crisis - TPC's

To access the layer in JOSM, add a WMS Layer with service url of

http://topo.disasternet.org/?

 ... (including the ? in the end, no additional spaces)

and choose the World Statistical Pilotage Maps (Humanitarian Use Only)
Option then click Ok

You can then choose it as a background layer from the imagery Menu

We do reserve the right to remove it of the use gets too high, but I think
it will handle the load with JOSM caching with no issues

FYI, we hope to have the philippine Topos available at some stage as well,
but I am strung for time for trimming and geo - referencing them, if anyone
could help out, I would appreciate it. Let me know

Cheers

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Re: [talk-ph] Block number addressing on Philippine?

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Ervin Malicdem
Hi Satoshi-san

The block number system is also used in the Philippines mostly on new
residential area development projects when street names do not exist yet. I
was advised before to use the Karlsluhe standard to tag the block and lot
number inside the addr:number tag however it does not work properly for the
purpose of address search with generating maps for Garmin and is very
tedious as plugins for shortcut addressing does not recognize alphanumeric
information.

I also strongly believe that with these drawbacks, block number system
tagging must be insisted in the Philippines.

The addr:block_number came from the proposal 2 years ago that can be seen
from this wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/list

Regards,

Ervin M.
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I've discussed about address tagging scheme for city block address
 system on dev  Tagging ML.

 Block address system is used (maybe only) in Japan.
 (It is addressing scheme related to Block, not to Street)
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-April/027825.html

 And Japanese mappers made propose addr:blocknumber.
 But in 2 month ago, addr:block_number(with underscore _ ) is used on
 Philippine.
 Here.
 http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/32h

 I would like to confirm a few points.

 1. Block number address system is used in Philippine?
 According to OSM wiki page, there is no definition to block_number in
 Philippine.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Addressing

 1-1.
 If block_number system is used, I would like to confirm they are same or
 not to Japanese ones.
 Please tell me some (maybe out of OSM wiki) documentation.
 If they are the same concept, _ ambiguous should be integrated :)

 Japanese Documentation is here.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Key:addr#.E6.97.A5.E6.9C.AC.E3.81.AE.E4.BD.8F.E6.89.80.E8.A1.A8.E8.A8.98.E3.81.AB.E3.81.A4.E3.81.84.E3.81.A6

 Block structure detail
 (sorry, written in Japanese,  certainly need more easy description...)
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses

 1-2.
 If not used, please tell me more appropriate addr:* tag for
 addr:block_number nodes.
 I think addr:subdivision or addr:barangay is suitable tagging than
 addr:block_number to them...

 Regards.


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Re: [talk-ph] [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden maning sambale
Great news!
So its safe to say that all PH provinces are partially covered by
hires imagery. :)
A lot of areas in Mindanao and Samar Leyte are also covered now.

The intriguing part is why Boracay is still not covered.
All imagery providers (except Nokia HERE) doesn't have hires for this area.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some areas that have high-resolution in Mapbox satellite imagery that aren't
 covered by Bing include:

 - western Siquijor (black and white)
 - greater Tagbilaran (cloudy though)
 - Bago City, Negros (black and white)
 - Ormoc City, Leyte (black and white)
 - all of Batanes !!! (color)
 - Pag-asa Island, Kalayaan, Palawan !!! (color)
 - eastern Surigao City (black and white)
 - eastern Kalibo, Aklan (black and white)
 - middle of Marinduque (color)
 - Calapan, Oriental Mindoro (color)
 - Baler, Aurora (color)
 - Science City of Muñoz, Nueva Ecija (color)
 - Dipolog City, Zamboanga del Norte (black and white)
 - Bais City, Negros Oriental (black and white)
 - portions near Borongan, Eastern Samar (black and white)
 - and many more!

 Happy tracing!



 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Here's some great news from our friends over at Mapbox and DigitalGlobe!

 More info here:
 http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2014/04/09/mappingtheworldinosm/

 I guess this is the big announcement for the State of the Map US which
 will be held in Washington, D.C. this weekend.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com
 Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:56 PM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through
 Mapbox Satellite
 To: Talk t...@openstreetmap.org
 Cc: Kevin Bullock kbull...@digitalglobe.com


 Effective immediately the Mapbox Satellite option in iD and JOSM is 100%
 open for tracing in OpenStreetMap, including all our high resolution
 DigitalGlobe imagery. This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in
 the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17.

 To use this imagery select Mapbox Satellite from the imagery menu in iD
 on the web or in JOSM. Mapbox Satellite is open for tracing in OpenStreetMap
 in general and not tied to a specific editor, so if you would like to add
 Mapbox Satellite to another OpenStreetMap editor you are welcome to do so.

 Big props to Kevin Bullock (cc'ed) and our friends at DigitalGlobe - it's
 fantastic working with good people who see wins of working with
 OpenStreetMap.

 Alex

 PS - on an existing installation of JOSM you'll have to refresh your
 imagery menu like so: http://cl.ly/image/383O2L0t431s

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Re: [talk-ph] Block number addressing on Philippine?

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Satoshi IIDA
Thank you very much!!  All

Maybe some of search function for block address system would not work well
now.
But I hope it could be possible if the structure is standardized. :)

 about underscore _
I see, I would make an announcement to JP mappers to change
addr:block_number.
(addr:blocknumber(JP) is fewer used.)

 Sample of Philippine
If someone could, please write a sample and description to OSM wikipage?
(At this time, Tag table on Philippine address page is better.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Addressing)

In case of...
Structure tree for this case is Barangay - neighbourhood/subdivision
- lot - block_number - housenumber?

Regards.




2014-04-11 18:33 GMT+09:00 Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com:

 Hi Satoshi-san

 The block number system is also used in the Philippines mostly on new
 residential area development projects when street names do not exist yet. I
 was advised before to use the Karlsluhe standard to tag the block and lot
 number inside the addr:number tag however it does not work properly for the
 purpose of address search with generating maps for Garmin and is very
 tedious as plugins for shortcut addressing does not recognize alphanumeric
 information.

 I also strongly believe that with these drawbacks, block number system
 tagging must be insisted in the Philippines.

 The addr:block_number came from the proposal 2 years ago that can be seen
 from this wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/list

 Regards,

 Ervin M.
 *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
 motherland.
 http://www.s1expeditions.com


 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I've discussed about address tagging scheme for city block address
 system on dev  Tagging ML.

 Block address system is used (maybe only) in Japan.
 (It is addressing scheme related to Block, not to Street)
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-April/027825.html

 And Japanese mappers made propose addr:blocknumber.
 But in 2 month ago, addr:block_number(with underscore _ ) is used on
 Philippine.
 Here.
 http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/32h

 I would like to confirm a few points.

 1. Block number address system is used in Philippine?
 According to OSM wiki page, there is no definition to block_number in
 Philippine.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Addressing

 1-1.
 If block_number system is used, I would like to confirm they are same or
 not to Japanese ones.
 Please tell me some (maybe out of OSM wiki) documentation.
 If they are the same concept, _ ambiguous should be integrated :)

 Japanese Documentation is here.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Key:addr#.E6.97.A5.E6.9C.AC.E3.81.AE.E4.BD.8F.E6.89.80.E8.A1.A8.E8.A8.98.E3.81.AB.E3.81.A4.E3.81.84.E3.81.A6

 Block structure detail
 (sorry, written in Japanese,  certainly need more easy description...)
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses

 1-2.
 If not used, please tell me more appropriate addr:* tag for
 addr:block_number nodes.
 I think addr:subdivision or addr:barangay is suitable tagging than
 addr:block_number to them...

 Regards.


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Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alex Barth
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

  This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in
  the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17.
 May I ask why?


Working on it :)

As part of the same agreement w/ DG that allows us to open the Mapbox
Satellite layer to OpenStreetMap tracing we are planning to update existing
imagery with a huge 500,000km2 update. We just blogged this, the post comes
with a tool to request particular areas to be updated. Let us know where we
should be updating our Satellite layer next:

https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/
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Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alex Rollin
Still no money here in Indonesia, but we are getting very close...We ran a
successful test in Dec/Jan/Feb and now we're moving all the training
courses online.  Teaching OSM and commons based peer production as a
sosial project to help poor children and single parents without work.  It
is slow going, writing all the documents myself still, but there is
progress each week.

We had a cadre of 12 students during the pilot, went really well.  Now have
a grant out asking for help with our first training room, a few more
computers.

--
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:


 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM, maning sambale 
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in
  the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17.
 May I ask why?


 Working on it :)

 As part of the same agreement w/ DG that allows us to open the Mapbox
 Satellite layer to OpenStreetMap tracing we are planning to update existing
 imagery with a huge 500,000km2 update. We just blogged this, the post comes
 with a tool to request particular areas to be updated. Let us know where we
 should be updating our Satellite layer next:

 https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/



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Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Jóhannes Birgir Jensson

Þann 11.04.2014 12:03, Alex Barth reit:

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:


This is full coverage down to zoom level 19 imagery in
the US + Western Europe and world wide to zoom level 17.

May I ask why?


Working on it :)

As part of the same agreement w/ DG that allows us to open the Mapbox
Satellite layer to OpenStreetMap tracing we are planning to update
existing imagery with a huge 500,000km2 update. We just blogged this,
the post comes with a tool to request particular areas to be updated.
Let us know where we should be updating our Satellite layer next:

https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/ [1]



Links:
--
[1] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/



Wonderful tool Alex! I've already made requests there for settlements in 
Botswana which were unusable or only partially usable in current 
imagery. I don't know what kind of area you deem to be of the correct 
size so I added each settlement (a total of 10 or so).


Will be submitting requests for Iceland as well, large areas there with 
unusable imagery (green blobs).


Thankful to DG, MapBox and anyone else involved in this. And all of us 
of course, go team!


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Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden James Mast
Thank you Mapbox and DigitalGlobe.

Just one little flaw with the feedback tool.  The additional notes part doesn't 
show up when I'm selecting areas that need a refresh.  I wanted to point out 
some major Interstate Highway projects that are being done that either are 
building brand new highways or massively reconfiguring other segments.

I still submitted the two areas that I know need imagery updates badly (the 
final segment of I-485 being built in Charlotte, NC; the massive I-40/I-77 
interchange reconfiguration + complete rebuild of I-40 in that area to 
Collector/Distributor lanes and other interchange reconfigurations in the 
Statesville, NC area), but wanted to add the extra note info but couldn't since 
that part didn't show up.

So, I hope you can get the notes part fixed and working.  I tried it in both 
IE-11 (patched all the way) and Firefox Beta 29.

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[OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Frederik Ramm
Hi,

the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just had
Europe before). The code that runs the analyses behind it is based on
the new Osmium library and is available on Github. The new view is
available now on OSMI (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi).

This blog entry has more details: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

I wish to thank Geotab Inc. who are sponsoring the server that runs the
analyses, as well as Lukas Toggenburger, who re-implemented the checks
in C++ so that everything is fast enough for world-wide processing (we
had been using an SQL based process before).

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Re: [Talk-br] régua no iD

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Paulo Carvalho
As pessoas têm pedido isso há tempos...
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1055
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1392
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1962

E abri mais um:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2196

Duvido que atendam, mas não custa nada pedir de novo.

[]s

Paulo


Em 10 de abril de 2014 22:30, Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire 
raffaellobr...@hotmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 alguém sabe se é possível visualizar alguma régua no iD que permita saber,
 por exermplo, o tamanho de algum segmento de via ou estimar a distância em
 que certo nó está sendo deslocado?

 Estou ajustando trechos de rodovias com base em tracks de GPS de ida e
 volta e gostaria de ter uma idéia quando há excesso de fragmentação, assim
 como poder estimar o quanto a via estava deslocada antes da correção.

 Obrigado,
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Re: [Talk-br] régua no iD

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Se fosse só para ter uma ideia inicial, eu abriria o GPX no GpsPrune. Acho
que tem isso. O JOSM não tem?
Em 10/04/2014 22:31, Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire 
raffaellobr...@hotmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 alguém sabe se é possível visualizar alguma régua no iD que permita
saber, por exermplo, o tamanho de algum segmento de via ou estimar a
distância em que certo nó está sendo deslocado?

 Estou ajustando trechos de rodovias com base em tracks de GPS de ida e
volta e gostaria de ter uma idéia quando há excesso de fragmentação, assim
como poder estimar o quanto a via estava deslocada antes da correção.
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Re: [Talk-br] régua no iD

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Arlindo Pereira
Comentei na issue: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1962


[]s

2014-04-11 9:20 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
alexandre@gmail.com:

 Se fosse só para ter uma ideia inicial, eu abriria o GPX no GpsPrune. Acho
 que tem isso. O JOSM não tem?
 Em 10/04/2014 22:31, Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire 
 raffaellobr...@hotmail.com escreveu:

 
  Oi,
 
  alguém sabe se é possível visualizar alguma régua no iD que permita
 saber, por exermplo, o tamanho de algum segmento de via ou estimar a
 distância em que certo nó está sendo deslocado?
 
  Estou ajustando trechos de rodovias com base em tracks de GPS de ida e
 volta e gostaria de ter uma idéia quando há excesso de fragmentação, assim
 como poder estimar o quanto a via estava deslocada antes da correção.


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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Como eu sei se a imagem (zoom) que tem
láhttps://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285já é o
que eles podem dar? A partir de um zoom, fica preto. Mas suspeito
que seja assim mesmo, que eles não tem imagem para aquele zoom.

Alexandre Magno


Em 11 de abril de 2014 12:28, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pessoal, se tiver alguma região que vocês precisem e não esteja nas
 imagens do MapBox Satellite pode pedir aqui:
 https://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#3/25.56/-33.22

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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Erick de Oliveira Leal
Mas acho que vale perguntar pra eles né.


Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:06, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Alexandre eu acho que o 17 já é o último pq eles comentaram isso no post
 de lançamento das imagens.


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:01, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:

 Como eu sei se a imagem (zoom) que tem 
 láhttps://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285já é o que 
 eles podem dar? A partir de um zoom, fica preto. Mas suspeito
 que seja assim mesmo, que eles não tem imagem para aquele zoom.

 Alexandre Magno


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 12:28, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
 erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pessoal, se tiver alguma região que vocês precisem e não esteja nas
 imagens do MapBox Satellite pode pedir aqui:
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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden John Packer
Na verdade é nível de zoom 17 para o mundo inteiro, e até o 19 para o
Estados Unidos e Europa Ocidental.
Aparece tudo preto depois do nível 17 só em áreas em que não existe níveis
18 e 19 (ele tenta pegar imagens que não existem).
No JOSM dá pra configurar o 17 como máximo. No iD não sei.


Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:06, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Alexandre eu acho que o 17 já é o último pq eles comentaram isso no post
 de lançamento das imagens.


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:01, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:

 Como eu sei se a imagem (zoom) que tem 
 láhttps://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285já é o que 
 eles podem dar? A partir de um zoom, fica preto. Mas suspeito
 que seja assim mesmo, que eles não tem imagem para aquele zoom.

 Alexandre Magno


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 12:28, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
 erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pessoal, se tiver alguma região que vocês precisem e não esteja nas
 imagens do MapBox Satellite pode pedir aqui:
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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Gerald Weber
Muito legal. Vou testar isto neste final de semana.

Parece que isto está sendo apresentado no State of the Map desta semana.

Uma curiosidade com a qual me deparei ao olhar do site do State of the Map
http://stateofthemap.us/ foi ver que um dos patrocinadores é o *Google [?]*.

abraço

Gerald



2014-04-11 13:13 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
alexandre@gmail.com:

 Desculpem-me, eu não tinha percebido o 17 na URL.

 https://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285

 Alexandre Magno


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:06, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
 erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Alexandre eu acho que o 17 já é o último pq eles comentaram isso no post
 de lançamento das imagens.


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:01, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:

 Como eu sei se a imagem (zoom) que tem 
 láhttps://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285já é o que 
 eles podem dar? A partir de um zoom, fica preto. Mas suspeito
 que seja assim mesmo, que eles não tem imagem para aquele zoom.

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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Lists
Gerald,

Google Summer of Code e um contruibador do programas e aplicativas OSM. Eles 
dar muito apoio ao comunidade OSM em lugar do desenvolver códigos e programas. 
Eles não dar apoio no dados geospatial porque OSM e um dos maiores concorrentes 
ao Google Maps, Google MapMaker, Google Routing e muitos outros serviços Google.

Google Summer of Code e mais um escola em programação em nome do Google que um 
serviço verdadeira do Google.

Aun Johnsen

On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:35, Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Muito legal. Vou testar isto neste final de semana.
 
 Parece que isto está sendo apresentado no State of the Map desta semana.
 
 Uma curiosidade com a qual me deparei ao olhar do site do State of the Map 
 http://stateofthemap.us/ foi ver que um dos patrocinadores é o Google 
 361.gif.
 
 abraço
 
 Gerald
 
 
 
 2014-04-11 13:13 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com:
 Desculpem-me, eu não tinha percebido o 17 na URL.
 
 https://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#17/-6.07433/-35.10285
 
 Alexandre Magno
 
 
 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:06, Erick de Oliveira Leal 
 erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
 Alexandre eu acho que o 17 já é o último pq eles comentaram isso no post de 
 lançamento das imagens. 
 
 
 Em 11 de abril de 2014 13:01, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
 alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:
 Como eu sei se a imagem (zoom) que tem lá já é o que eles podem dar? A partir 
 de um zoom, fica preto. Mas suspeito que seja assim mesmo, que eles não tem 
 imagem para aquele zoom.
 
 Alexandre Magno
 
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Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Blademir Andrade de Lima
As imagens na minha cidade estão novas, mas preto  branco. Mas também tampou 
um buraco de imagens de satélite que tinha aqui.Estou usando o JOSM, se 
aproximar muito fica quadrado dependendo da imagem, mas não some como no Bing.
Att,
BladeTC

 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:54:41 -0300
 From: nao...@gmail.com
 To: talk-br@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Imagens novas da MapBox Satellite
 
 Tem umas áreas aqui perto que são de 10+ anos atrás no Bing que estão
 razoavelmente boas para traçar em cima com este novo conjunto de
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Re: [Talk-br] gráfico de evolução do número de pontos e vias no Brasil ao longo do tempo. Alguém já fez?

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Lucas,

Dê uma olhada nisto: OSM - Extract Streets from OSM Data (With/Without
Python)http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/76454/osm-extract-streets-from-osm-data-with-without-python.
E principalmente na resposta http://gis.stackexchange.com/a/76460 sobre OGR's
OSM http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_osm.html Driver e na outra
http://gis.stackexchange.com/a/76458sobre *PostGIS*. Essa última
exemplifica:


1. Carregue o extract dentro do PostGIS usando osm2pgsql
2. Execute uma consulta como esta:

 SELECT name FROM planet_osm_line WHERE highway in ('motorway', 'trunk',
 'primary', 'secondary', 'tertiary', 'pedestrian', 'unclassified', 'service')


Alexandre Magno


2014-04-09 14:38 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
alexandre@gmail.com:

 Se possível, e principalmente se já estiver feito, com certeza é melhor
 pular a lida com CSV e ir direto a um PostgreSQL. Começando que a
 atualização periódica do dados ficaria facilitada. E o principal: o banco
 já pode (e deverá) estar normalizado.

 Se aquela ferramenta do osm-history-renderer que entrega um PostgreSQL não
 lhe der um banco útil, você pode usar osmium e criar a sua própria,
 imitando-a. Modele bem o seu esquema relacional.

 A ideia do unipt-stats não exclui nada do que estamos falando aqui. Só que
 inicialmente o caso de testes dele é aqueles CSV (o que inclui a
 problemática da importação útil deles). Ele fica uma camada acima. Provendo
 um modo organizado (design) para utilizar em Python uma base de dados tal
 como esse banco PostgreSQL que o osm-history-renderer entrega.

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[Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden John Packer
Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando umas
informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com (precisa de um
navegador moderno com WebGL).
Está ficando bem legal:
no F4:
http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
no OSM:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
No F4:
http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
No OSM:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
E no mapa Humanitário:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

Abs,
João
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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Você pode apontar alguns materiais que usou para aprender a fazer isso?

Alexandre Magno


Em 11 de abril de 2014 21:40, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

 Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando umas
 informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com (precisa de um
 navegador moderno com WebGL).
 Está ficando bem legal:
 no F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
 no OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

 E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
 detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
 No F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
 No OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
 E no mapa Humanitário:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

 Abs,
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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden John Packer
Aprendi na seguinte página do wiki e algumas outras que estão ligadas:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_buildings

Uma coisa bem interessante de saber é que as ferramentas de visualização 3D
estimam a altura das construções a partir da chave building_levels (número
de andares)


Em 11 de abril de 2014 21:49, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros 
alexandre@gmail.com escreveu:

 Você pode apontar alguns materiais que usou para aprender a fazer isso?

 Alexandre Magno


 Em 11 de abril de 2014 21:40, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

 Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando umas
 informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com (precisa de
 um navegador moderno com WebGL).
 Está ficando bem legal:
 no F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
 no OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

 E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
 detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
 No F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
 No OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
 E no mapa Humanitário:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

 Abs,
 João


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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Arlindo Pereira
Maneiro!

Já tinha tentado mexer com isso e não tinha conseguido ver renderizado.
Agora sim! =) http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-22.9569227lon=-43.1768235zoom=18

Como uma sugestão, mapeem os prédios mais altos da sua cidade. Uma ideia
que eu tive uma vez (mas nunca coloquei em prática) era de mapear os
prédios dessa lista:
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_arranha-c%C3%A9us_do_Brasil


[]s
Nighto

2014-04-11 21:40 GMT-03:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:

 Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

 Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando umas
 informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com (precisa de um
 navegador moderno com WebGL).
 Está ficando bem legal:
 no F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
 no OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

 E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
 detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
 No F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
 No OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
 E no mapa Humanitário:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

 Abs,
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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Mas eu vi que aquele outro da sua cidade parece que pintou umas paredes...

Alexandre Magno


Em 11 de abril de 2014 21:59, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Aprendi na seguinte página do wiki e algumas outras que estão ligadas:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_buildings

 Uma coisa bem interessante de saber é que as ferramentas de visualização
 3D estimam a altura das construções a partir da chave building_levels(número 
 de andares)

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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Lucas Ferreira Mation
Pessoal, se a informacao do número de andares for suficiente, acho que isso
pode ser estimado usando o CNEFE, com alguma validação/conhecimento local.

A ideia é o seguinte.  Se a pessoa souber o endereço certinho ou
,preferencialmente, o cep (em geral prédios maiores tem cep próprio) daria
para estimar o numero de andares do prédio com base na estrutura de
complementos dos endereços dos domicílios do prédio.

Po exemplo , se os complementos são: ap 101, ap102, ap201,... ap1801, eu
posso supor q o prédio tem 18 andares. Não é garantido, mas pode ajudar o
mapeador local.

Se alguem se animar em testar esta ideia na sua cidade ou bairro me avise
que eu preparo uma lista da estimativa do no de andares de cada endereço na
área.

Abs
Lucas
Em 11/04/2014 22:08, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com
escreveu:

 Maneiro!

 Já tinha tentado mexer com isso e não tinha conseguido ver renderizado.
 Agora sim! =)
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-22.9569227lon=-43.1768235zoom=18

 Como uma sugestão, mapeem os prédios mais altos da sua cidade. Uma ideia
 que eu tive uma vez (mas nunca coloquei em prática) era de mapear os
 prédios dessa lista:
 http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_arranha-c%C3%A9us_do_Brasil


 []s
 Nighto

 2014-04-11 21:40 GMT-03:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:

 Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

 Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando umas
 informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com (precisa de
 um navegador moderno com WebGL).
 Está ficando bem legal:
 no F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
 no OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

 E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
 detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
 No F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
 No OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
 E no mapa Humanitário:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

 Abs,
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Re: [Talk-br] Exemplo de visualização 3D com dados do OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Arlindo Pereira
Ideia bacana! Se você puder, posso experimentar com os prédios do bairro de
Vista Alegre, no Rio de Janeiro/RJ, se houverem dados disponíveis (ou
qualquer outro bairro, na verdade). Um quarteirão basta.

[]s


2014-04-11 22:31 GMT-03:00 Lucas Ferreira Mation lucasmat...@gmail.com:

 Pessoal, se a informacao do número de andares for suficiente, acho que
 isso pode ser estimado usando o CNEFE, com alguma validação/conhecimento
 local.

 A ideia é o seguinte.  Se a pessoa souber o endereço certinho ou
 ,preferencialmente, o cep (em geral prédios maiores tem cep próprio) daria
 para estimar o numero de andares do prédio com base na estrutura de
 complementos dos endereços dos domicílios do prédio.

 Po exemplo , se os complementos são: ap 101, ap102, ap201,... ap1801, eu
 posso supor q o prédio tem 18 andares. Não é garantido, mas pode ajudar o
 mapeador local.

 Se alguem se animar em testar esta ideia na sua cidade ou bairro me avise
 que eu preparo uma lista da estimativa do no de andares de cada endereço na
 área.

 Abs
 Lucas
 Em 11/04/2014 22:08, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com
 escreveu:

  Maneiro!

 Já tinha tentado mexer com isso e não tinha conseguido ver renderizado.
 Agora sim! =)
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-22.9569227lon=-43.1768235zoom=18

 Como uma sugestão, mapeem os prédios mais altos da sua cidade. Uma ideia
 que eu tive uma vez (mas nunca coloquei em prática) era de mapear os
 prédios dessa lista:
 http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_arranha-c%C3%A9us_do_Brasil


 []s
 Nighto

 2014-04-11 21:40 GMT-03:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:

 Pessoal, pra me gabar um pouco.

 Andei dando uma mexida no meu campus, e aos poucos estou adicionando
 umas informações para visualização 3D em sites como o f4map.com(precisa de 
 um navegador moderno com WebGL).
 Está ficando bem legal:
 no F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.2530405lon=-48.8550115zoom=18camera.theta=57.319camera.phi=-2.005
 no OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263290462#map=17/-26.25337/-48.85415

 E tem um outro usuário aqui em Joinville que, entre outras coisas, andou
 detalhando um dos pontos turísticos da cidade:
 No F4:
 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=-26.3217907lon=-48.8462260zoom=19camera.theta=49.92camera.phi=-165.194
 No OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=18/-26.32202/-48.84655
 E no mapa Humanitário:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2619265385#map=19/-26.32179/-48.84667layers=H

 Abs,
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[Talk-de] Fwd: [HOT] M6.1 earthquake shook Nicaragua's capital Managua, no reported (notable) damage -- OSM at epicenter basically unmapped

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden michael



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 Datum: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:31:38 -0400
   Von: Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com
   Betreff: [HOT] M6.1 earthquake shook Nicaragua's capital Managua,  
no reported (notable) damage -- OSM at epicenter basically unmapped
An: HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)  
h...@openstreetmap.org

Cc: Pekka Sarkola pekka.sark...@gispo.fi

Hi all,

*In short:*
Shallow M6.1 quake 60km North of capital of Nicaragua few hours back. Shook
the city, scared people but didn't seem to cause notable damage.
No need for proper response.
Regular mapping for e.g. epicenter areas is welcomed.

*In length:*
So I just wanted to notify you all of an earth quake that shook Managua a
few hours ago pretty
wellhttps://twitter.com/chalespinosa/status/454401405076660224

 (even thought the epicenter was 60 km away) and seemed to remind at least
some of the 1972 big one. No notable damage however, it seems. Power and
phone service gaps might be the biggest damage.

This won't create a specific need for a response from HOT/OSM. But if
someone feels like giving some Map Love to e.g. the epicenter area, which
is nearly unmapped (except for main roads) that wouldn't hurt.

* The epicenter was around
Larreynagahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/node/302523984#map=14/12.6726/-86.5703

* We have good Bing coverage there.
* There is also an almost finalized NGA 50k topo maps WMS layer for
Nicaragua that has a lot of information that would be good to get to OSM.
The epicenter area is well covered with the WMS (some other parts of the
country still need some work).

The WMS layer is a result of Pekka posiki Sarkola's (OSM active in
Finland, he extracted the maps out of the GeoPDFs) and Mark Cupitt's (in
the Philippines, he created the WMS + his server serving it) helping out --
thanks to both!
It is available at:
http://topo.disasternet.org/?
... (including the ? in the end)
When adding the layer choose the only layer that comes up with a query,
accept it, and, Tadaa!

The map is public domain but marking source helps in data quality
assurance/improvement later. The Nicaragua community prefers putting source
tag on objects (to make it easier to understand where specific data comes
from for fine-tuning, etc). e.g. source=NGA 50k topo maps is good.

If you use the topo map layer a thing to note is that the railroads visible
on the map are not there anymore (the tracks that is, at least for the most
parts).

The NGA locality data (that Severin wrote
abouthttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sev_hotosm/diary/21038

 a little little while ago) has not yet been added into OSM in Nicaragua
(at least in many areas including the quake struck).
So, if someone (who's done the conversion(s) before is willing to create a
dataset of that for Nicaragua for adding to OSM that would be great. I and
the Nicaragua community would love to get our hands on that / work on the
actual adding of the data.

I won't be creating TM jobs for now as this doesn't seem to be an acute
situation and we're in the process of working through the whole topo maps
coverage for the country in the near future + the NGA location names db
adding to OSM.

Cheers,
-Jaakko
.. who lives in Managua but is currently in DC for the SoTM-US this weekend.

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[Talk-de] OSM Inspector mit weltweitem Adress-Layer

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Frederik Ramm
Hallo,

   der OSMI-Adresslayer ist jetzt weltweit (vorher nur Europa). Die
Grundlage dafür ist Code von Lukas Toggenburger, der das im Rahmen
seines Studiums entwickelt hat (vorher haben wir den Layer in PostGIS
berechnet, und das war so langsam, dass wir nur Europa verarbeiten
konnten). Der Code basiert auf Jochens neuer Osmium-Bibliothek und ist
bei Github einsehbar; der neue Layer ist ab sofort ganz normal auf
tools.geofabrik.de/osmi verfügbar.

Ein paar weitere Details hier: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

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Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector mit weltweitem Adress-Layer

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Holger Jeromin
Frederik Ramm schrieb am 11.04.2014 16:16:

 der OSMI-Adresslayer ist jetzt weltweit (vorher nur Europa). Die

Danke!

 Grundlage dafür ist Code von Lukas Toggenburger, der das im Rahmen
 seines Studiums entwickelt hat (vorher haben wir den Layer in PostGIS
 berechnet, und das war so langsam, dass wir nur Europa verarbeiten
 konnten). Der Code basiert auf Jochens neuer Osmium-Bibliothek und ist

Fein, jetzt interpretiert ihr auch highway=path als Quelle, zB:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28809675

 bei Github einsehbar; der neue Layer ist ab sofort ganz normal auf
 tools.geofabrik.de/osmi verfügbar.
 
 Ein paar weitere Details hier: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

Spontan seh ich das Problem hier nicht:

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresseslon=6.02621lat=50.76997zoom=18overlays=buildings_with_addresses,street_not_found

angeblich falsch:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=186735982
aber ziemlich identisch und vom osmi als richtig erkannt:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=186735926



Leider kann (mindestens) der tagging-layer noch nicht mit 64bit IDs umgehen:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagginglon=6.15847lat=50.74102zoom=18

node_id: -163678606

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Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector mit weltweitem Adress-Layer

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 04/11/2014 05:24 PM, Holger Jeromin wrote:
 Leider kann (mindestens) der tagging-layer noch nicht mit 64bit IDs umgehen:
 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagginglon=6.15847lat=50.74102zoom=18

Ja, das ist ein bekanntes Problem und wird auch irgendwann gefixt ;)

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Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector mit weltweitem Adress-Layer

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Gertrud Simson
Am 11. April 2014 17:24 schrieb Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de:


 Fein, jetzt interpretiert ihr auch highway=path als Quelle, zB:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28809675


highway=pedestrian wird leider noch nicht unterstützt. Zumindest nicht als
Multipolygon mit area=yes, wie in diesem Fall:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresseslon=12.91952lat=50.83416zoom=18overlays=street_not_found
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[Talk-it] Selezione di tutte le way di un'area

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden apozz...@libero.it
Buongiorno a tutti,chiedo se esiste uno strumento in Josm, magari che non 
richieda la laurea in ingegneria, per selezionare tutte le way all'interno di 
un comune (esclusi track, footway, cycleway ecc.) per assegnare il limite di 
velocità. Successivamente andrò a modificare/togliere il limite nelle poche way 
con limite diverso/assente.Grazie e buon fine settimana,
Alessandro Pozzato
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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi foto aerei da Mapbox / Digital Globe con licenza compatibile

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Aury88
non capisco se sono le foto rielaborate nel progetto cloudless portato avanti
da mapbox...
sono quelle?



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Re: [Talk-it] Selezione di tutte le way di un'area

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Stefano Salvador
Come prima cosa ti scarichi tutta l'area che ti interessa (sperando che il
server accetti la richiesta) poi vai nel menù Modifica-Cerca e immetti la
seguente stringa di ricerca:

type:way and (highway=residential | highway=unclassified | highway=tertiary
| highway=secondary | highway=primary)

lasci selezionato Sostituisci la selezione e dai Inizia Ricerca. A
questo punto controlla che ci sia tutto e modifica i tag che ti interessano.

Se l'area è troppo grande puoi procedere per settori oppure appoggiarti a
overpass.

Ciao,

Stefano






Il giorno 11 aprile 2014 08:02, apozz...@libero.it apozz...@libero.it ha
scritto:

 Buongiorno a tutti,

 chiedo se esiste uno strumento in Josm, magari che non richieda la laurea
 in ingegneria, per selezionare tutte le way all'interno di un comune
 (esclusi track, footway, cycleway ecc.) per assegnare il limite di
 velocità. Successivamente andrò a modificare/togliere il limite nelle poche
 way con limite diverso/assente.

 Grazie e buon fine settimana,


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Re: [Talk-it] Selezione di tutte le way di un'area

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Alessandro Pozzato

Il 11/04/2014 09:49, Stefano Salvador ha scritto:
Come prima cosa ti scarichi tutta l'area che ti interessa (sperando 
che il server accetti la richiesta) poi vai nel menù Modifica-Cerca e 
immetti la seguente stringa di ricerca:


type:way and (highway=residential | highway=unclassified | 
highway=tertiary | highway=secondary | highway=primary)


lasci selezionato Sostituisci la selezione e dai Inizia Ricerca. A 
questo punto controlla che ci sia tutto e modifica i tag che ti 
interessano.


Se l'area è troppo grande puoi procedere per settori oppure 
appoggiarti a overpass.


Ciao,

Stefano


Grazie mille Stefano per le dritte, stasera provo e ti farò sapere domani.

Alessandro


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Re: [Talk-it] Contrade

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Giovanni Caudullo
Ciao.
Ho fatto type=multipolygon, place=suburb, name=Contrada ma non viene
visualizzato.
Devo mettere anche il punto perchè venga visualizzato il nome della contrada?
G

Il 10 aprile 2014 09:36, Giovanni Caudullo
giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Grazie mille per tutte le info.
 Ora procedo : )
 Ciao
 Giovanni

 Il 09 aprile 2014 19:28, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
 ha scritto:

 2014-04-09 15:54 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com:

 E se si può, nel caso vengano aggiornati i confini amministrativi si
 perdono le relazioni?



 no, chi aggiorna i confini (quindi noi ;-) ) deve stare attento di non
 perdere altre informazioni. Non si possono cancellare e reimportare oggetti
 del genere (al meno non semplicemente, senza trasferire altri elementi su
 nuovi oggetti), perché ci sono legati troppe informazioni.

 ciao,
 Martin

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Re: [Talk-it] Selezione di tutte le way di un'area

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
 Am 11/apr/2014 um 09:49 schrieb Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com:

 lasci selezionato Sostituisci la selezione e dai Inizia Ricerca. A questo 
 punto controlla che ci sia tutto e modifica i tag che ti interessano.


prima ancora togli quelli che hanno già un maxspeed. Se metti quei
default, suggerisco di aggiungere anche source:maxspeed.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed

Dovrai consecutivamente sostituire source:maxspeed=IT:urban con sign
dove ci sono anche cartelli stradali.

Ciao,
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[Talk-it] Sbarramento con pali mobili

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden demon.box
Situazione: una sterrata che poi entra in un recinto ed all'entrata (a
funzione di cancello)
per potervi accedere (con un mezzo a 4 ruote) ci sono 2 pali di legno
orizzontali che possono essere sfilati a mano soltanto da chi possiede la
chiave del lucchetto in quanto sono fissati con una catena di ferro.

Come lo taggo? Non mi sembra corretto barrier=lift_gate perché sbarra non è
ma anche barrier=stile
su wikipedia dice chiaramente che non ci devono essere parti in movimento...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Key:barrier

Secondo voi come taggo correttamente stà roba visto che ne trovo parecchi in
giro?
Grazie!
ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Sbarramento con pali mobili

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-11 12:02 GMT+02:00 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it:

 Secondo voi come taggo correttamente stà roba visto che ne trovo parecchi
 in
 giro?



il più vicino per me è lift_gate, altrimente dovresti inventare un nuovo
valore. Aggiungi in ogni caso anche dei tags access sul nodo per indicare
chi può passare.

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Sbarramento con pali mobili

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Gianluca Boero


Il 11/04/2014 12:10, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:


2014-04-11 12:02 GMT+02:00 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it 
mailto:e.rossin...@alice.it:


Secondo voi come taggo correttamente stà roba visto che ne trovo
parecchi in
giro?



il più vicino per me è lift_gate, altrimente dovresti inventare un 
nuovo valore. Aggiungi in ogni caso anche dei tags access sul nodo per 
indicare chi può passare.




+1 in pratica accertarsi da li in avanti se la strada è privata.

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi foto aerei da Mapbox / Digital Globe con licenza compatibile

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden sabas88
Il giorno 11 aprile 2014 13:48, cascafico cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 sabas88 wrote
  Oltretutto spostand di qualche centinaio di metri, vedo che si
  comporta come bing, bisogna rinnovare lo scostamento.
  Imagery offset database

 Cos'è sta cosa? Sto tracciando edifici per il task Ebola ed in effetti
 reipostare l'offest è una rottura.


E' un modo di archiviare gli scostamenti e recuperarli, non è molto
utilizzato anche se ha un anno...
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Imagery_Offset_Database

Si tratta di un plugin JOSM ma dovrebbe prima o poi essere supportato dagli
altri editor..

Comunque annuncio Mapbox che spiega come richiedere aggiornamenti dove serve
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/



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Re: [Talk-it] Sbarramento con pali mobili

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-11 14:55 GMT+02:00 Marco (MarcoR) marcx...@gmail.com:

 Chi può passare nel senso che è autorizzato a passare (per intendersi,
 come nel caso delle strade) oppure chi è in grado fisicamente di passare?



access è sempre un tag legale (in tutte le sue forme come per esempio
questi chiavi: foot, bicycle, hgv, motor_vehicle, vehicle,
horse, motorcycle, ecc.) quindi indica chi è autorizzato (nel caso di
yes e official / designated), oppure chi viene tollerato senza avere
il diritto (nel caso di permissive) oppure chi non può andare
(legalmente) nel caso di no.

ciao,
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[Talk-se] Digital Globe

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Christian Asker
Hej på er. Jag vet inte ifall ni redan sett detta, men jag skickar för 
säkerhets skull: 
http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2014/04/09/mappingtheworldinosm/


Mvh Christian

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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Xuacu
Hi Sylvain, all

My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the common
border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care of
displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding such
Espagne--France tag only adds clutter and/or confuses renderers.
Just my 2¢ :)

Kind regards
--
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2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe) lis...@letuffe.org:
 Holla Jonay,

 Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
 Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I mean, what
 are you both disagreeing at?

 He adds on boudary ways :
 name:es = espana -- france
 name:en = spain -- france
 name:fr = espagne -- france
 etc.

 While other think we should either :
 - add no name at all on boundary ways
 - or at least don't use -- as separator


 And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read you in
 spanish besides an English version.

 So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at all ;-(
 google translate would be by far better than me ;-)

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[Talk-at] Über Imports

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Labres
tyr_asd über Imports:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tyr_asd/diary/21628
/al
--- schnipp ---
Imports sind für OpenStreetMap ein sehr zweischneidiges Schwert: Natürlich
führen sie kurzfristig zu besseren Daten, aber sie führen zu keiner nachhaltigen
Stärkung der Community. Vor allem von Außen kommende Imports sind für OSM nicht
nachhaltig, weil sie keine neuen Mapper anlocken und nicht einmal bestehende
Mapper einbindet. Bei OSM kommt es nicht so sehr auf die Quantität der Daten an.
Viel wichtiger sind Qualitätsmerkmale wie Aktualität, Ausgewogenheit,
Nützlichkeit, relative Genauigkeit, usw.

Was ich meine ist: Wenn eine Gegend/Dorf/... in OSM noch schlecht erfasst ist,
ist auch wenig geholfen, wenn auf einmal alle Gebäude da sind, wenn die
eigentlich wichtigeren Dinge wie Straßen, Straßennamen, POIs, usw. fehlen.
Vielmehr würde das eher eine falsche Vollständigkeit vortäuschen („Da sind ja
sogar schon alle Gebäude gezeichnet, da muss ich nichts mehr mappen“). Wenn aber
eine Gegend in OSM schon recht gut erfasst ist, werden die lokalen Mapper von
alleine irgendwann entscheiden, dass es an der Zeit ist, Gebäude nach-und-nach
einzutragen. Dabei werden sie sich dann automatisch der jeweils besten
verfügbaren Datenquellen bedienen: Entweder vom Luftbild abzeichnen (zur Zeit
die einzige Option), oder ein Import von etwaigen offenen Datensätzen. Wie man
sieht, ein von Außen aufgezwungener Import ist so oder so nicht notwendig.

Ich kann dir mehrere Beispiele nennen, wo verfrüht durchgeführte Imports zu
einer Verschlechterung der Gesamtsituation für die OSM-Community geführt haben:
Meran war eine der ersten öffentlichen Institutionen, die ihre Daten (speziell
für OSM) freigegeben haben. Das kam damals sehr gut an, schaffte es sogar in
eine OSM-Hall-of-Fame. Jetzt, fast 7 Jahre später, kann man feststellen, dass
Meran in OSM zu den am schlechtesten gemappten Gemeinden Südtirols gehört (im
Verhältnis zur Einwohnerzahl wahrscheinlich das Schlusslicht). Ähnliche Stories
findet man in OSM zu Hauf: in Frankreich, im Veneto, in der Emiglia Romagna, …
Und von dem wenig erfolgreichen TIGER-Import in den USA muss ich
wahrscheinlich auch nicht viel erzählen.

Für bestimmte Daten kann bzw. sollte man schon Ausnahmen machen. Dazu gehören
Sachen wie administrative Grenzen, weil diese alternativ kaum anders zu erfassen
sind. Adressen gehören in gewisser Weise wahrscheinlich auch zu dieser 
Kategorie.

Versteht mich bitte nicht falsch: OSM freut sich natürlich über alle Daten, die
es bekommt, aber, wie oben geschrieben, nur wenn diese für OSM jeweils auch
sinnvoll einsetzbar sind. Auch wären wir natürlich auch über jede technische
Unterstützung dankbar. Nur gäbe es in OSM genug Dinge, die viel dringender
Arbeit benötigten als als ein Import fehlender Gebäudeumrisse. Hier in Südtirol
denke ich da einmal spontan an die Vervollständigung der Straßennamen,
Qualitätskontrolle für POIs, Kontrolle von sicherheitsrelevanten Merkmalen von
Wanderwegen, usw.

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Re: [Talk-at] Über Imports

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Martin Raifer
Als Hintergrund wie ich dazu gekommen bin den Artikel zu verfassen:
Möglicher Gebäude-Import in Südtirol:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it-southtyrol/2014-April/000129.html

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Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšana Jelgavā

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Normunds Rustanovics
Rekur es tev atstāju dažus speciāli :) 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=15/57.2097/27.6785

Iedošu vēl ja pamanīšu, speciāli nemeklēju, pirmais ko atvēru. 

N. 


On 09 Apr 2014, at 08:16, Endijs Lisovskis end...@lisovskis.com wrote:

 Laikam dažādās vietās skatamies karti. Nav nācies vēl uztrāpīt uz kādu vietu 
 LV, kur nebūtu kāds liels ceļš iezimēts. Pat savus laukus pārbaudiju - teju 
 viss bija. Vienīgi daži ceļi uz viensētām nebija, bet tas jau ta kā sīkums. 
 Tiešām ir tik traki, ka nav lielu ceļu? 
 Bet māju numuri/ielas ir ļoti svarīgi. Kartēs taču bieži meklē adreses. Un ja 
 nav šo datu, tad daudziem karte ir bezjēdzīga.
 
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 2014. gada 9. aprīlis 07:18 N.R. trak...@gmail.com rakstīja:
 Māju numuru trūkums lielpilsētā ir nieks, salīdzinot ar lielu ceļu neesamību 
 ārpus tām
 
 N
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 08 Apr 2014, at 23:11, Endijs Lisovskis end...@lisovskis.com wrote:
 
 Manu vārdu salaboja. yoohooo!
 
 Nezinu kā viņi skatās uz uzlabojumiem. Es skatos pozitīvi. Redzu daudzus 
 labus papildinājumus. Un viņi turpina nākt klāt. Turklāt es arī regulāri 
 papildināšu. Ne baigajās kaudzēs, bet tomēr. Tā kā rezultāts pasākumam 
 noteiki pozitīvs.
 
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 2014. gada 8. aprīlis 20:58 Rich ric...@nakts.net rakstīja:
 On 08/04/14 20:06, Endijs Lisovskis wrote:
  Re - Jelgavas Vēstnesis kaut ko uzrakstījis un dažas bildes ielicis,
  plus manu vārdu sajaucis. :)
 
  http://www.jelgavasvestnesis.lv/page/9?news_id=24145
 
 hah. jaaatziist, ne to vien sajaukushi ;)
 nezini, uz labojumiem pozitiivi skataas ? =)
 
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  2014. gada 6. aprīlis 01:55 Rich ric...@nakts.net
  mailto:ric...@nakts.net rakstīja:
 
  On 05/04/14 20:31, Endijs Lisovskis wrote:
   Hola!
  
   Interesentus informēju, ka blogā uzrakstīju par iespaidiem, kuri 
  radās
   šodienas pasākuma laikā. Ja nu gadījumā ir vēlme pie OSM LV bloga
   attiecīgā raksta (kad jau nu tāds būs), droši var ielinkot uz manu
   ierakstu kā dalībnieka iespaidiem/viedokli. :)
  
  
  http://endijs.com/2014/04/05/openstreetmap-kartesanas-pasakums-jelgava-atskats/
 
  paldies. mees veel pastaigaajaam, tad es veel pastaigaaju. devos 
  maajaas
  un pirmo reizi muuzhaa iesleedzu atsleegas autinjaa. nesen ierados
  maajaas. plop.
 
  jebkaadi foto, ziimeeshana, rakstu darbi aatraak par riitdienas vakaru
  netaps =)
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[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Richard Weait
Address inspector tool now spans the globe!  See Frederik's announcement


-- Forwarded message --
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Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just had
Europe before). The code that runs the analyses behind it is based on
the new Osmium library and is available on Github. The new view is
available now on OSMI (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi).

This blog entry has more details: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

I wish to thank Geotab Inc. who are sponsoring the server that runs the
analyses, as well as Lukas Toggenburger, who re-implemented the checks
in C++ so that everything is fast enough for world-wide processing (we
had been using an SQL based process before).

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad wiki MapFeatures

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Petr Kadlec
Ahoj,

2014-04-11 4:29 GMT+02:00 Dalibor Jelínek dali...@dalibor.cz:

 toz ja bych tam napsal Legenda, nebo Legenda mapy,
 ale nemuzu na wiki sehnat nikoho, kdo by to umel zmenit v hlavnim menu. :-(


Nevím, co už jsi zkoušel, ale v zásadě stačí text, který tam má být, napsat
do http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mapfeatures/cs – jsou k
tomu ale potřeba správcovská práva na wiki, teoreticky by mělo stačit
přidat žádost na http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki, ale netuším,
jestli to tam (nebo kde jinde) reálně nějaký správce sleduje. Případně je
asi možné vybrat si někoho na
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/sysop a otravovat s
žádostí osobně.

Ale nejsem si jist, jestli je tohle legenda [mapy], když to popisuje spíš
_data_ než _mapu_.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Preklad wiki MapFeatures

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Marián Kyral
Díky. Zatím jsem to nestihl projít celé, ale už jsem narazil na pár věcí, které 
se mi budou v budoucnu hodit. 

Skvělá práce.
Marián

On 10. dubna 2014 17:37:41 CEST, Dalibor Jelínek dali...@dalibor.cz wrote:
Ahoj,

tak se zda, ze jsem konecne dokoncil preklad cele stranky MapFeatures
na
wiki

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Map_Features

Ufff. Zacinal jsem loni v rijnu. 

 

Byl bych rad, kdyby si nekdo nasel cas to po mne projit a pripadne

mi napsat, co se mu nezda.

 

Diky,

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[Talk-cz] (no subject)

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Pavel Kwiecien
Ahoj,
chtěl bych upozornit na nové satelitní snímky dostupné přes MapBox 
Satellite. 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21622

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden George Kaplan
 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 23:34:57 +0200
 From: fred.rodr...@gmail.com
 To: talk-fr@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM
 
 Bonjour,
 
 MapBox a annoncé que Mapbox Satellite qui provient de DigitalGlobe est 
 disponible pour le décalquage pour OSM. Le calque est déjà dans iD et 
 dans la liste de ceux disponibles pour JOSM.
 
 Le message original :
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21622
 
 L'info chez DigitalGloble :
 http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2014/04/09/mappingtheworldinosm/
 
 US et Europe de l'ouest disponible au zoom 19, le reste au zoom 17.



Bonjour,


Je viens de regarder quelques zones sous JOSM :
A Paris et aux alentours, Mapbox Satellite est identique à Bing, ce sont les 
mêmes photos (circulation, véhicules stationnés identiques)
A Nuremberg, MapBox et Bing sont bien différents, l'un pris en été et l'autre 
en hiver (feuillage sur les arbres)
A la Réunion, Mapbox et Bing sont différents. Mapbox a plus de constructions 
que Bing, je suppose donc que c'est la prise de vue la plus récente.




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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Merci Didier !

Sur cette base :
* l'analyse de didier
http://osm2020.free.fr/teste/analyser_osmosis_residential_landuse-debugwithjosm.xml.html
* le contenu du wiki anglophone (avec cas d'applications)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
* le contenu du wiki français (2ème phrase)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway%3Dunclassified

Cette analyse décrite ci-dessous fait-elle consensus ?
* L'analyse menée : highway=residential en dehors d'un landuse=residential
et les highway=unclassified au sein d'un landuse=residential
* L'analyse vise à permettre :
  * de détecter les unclassified qui sont résidentiels et vice-versa
  * d'affiner les landuse=residential à améliorer

Merci pour votre vote ;)

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Le 10 avril 2014 22:41, didier2020 didier2...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 à 09:08 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft a écrit :
  Didier, peux tu nous mettre quelque chose a disposition pour discuter
  sur des éléments concrets ?

 j'ai pris une commune en seine et marne
 le fichier html suivant charge les ways avec josm

 http://osm2020.free.fr/teste/analyser_osmosis_residential_landuse-debugwithjosm.xml.html



 
  Pour précision : effectivement mon propos concerne bien uniquement les
  way des 'zones habitées' que j'estime être dans un landuse
  résidential.
 
  Cette détection permettrait deux choses : détecter des rues mal tagées
  ou des landuse mal découpés.
 
  À mon avis, la présomption d'une vitesse à 50km/h sur ces voies a du
  sens faute de maxspeed explicite.
 
  Le concept de unclassified en ville ne me semble peu probable.
  Exemple : on peut parfaitement materialiser une residential avec une
  largeur de 6m et sidewalk=no si c'est important de caractériser que ça
  ne ressemble pas a une rue résidentielle de carte postale.
 
  La seule interrogation que j'ai réside sur les voies d'accès a des
  zones industrielles ou commerciales.
 
  Pour savoir où j'ai fait ma modification, il suffit de regarder les
  deux dernières modifications récentes de JIBEC. C'est dans mon commit
  de mise a jour manuelle du cadastre.
 
  Le 9 avr. 2014 18:15, didier2020 didier2...@free.fr a écrit :
  Le mercredi 09 avril 2014 à 17:46 +0200, Jean-Baptiste
  Holcroft a
  écrit :
   Bonjour,
  
  
   Ayant travaillé hier sur Châtillon (ville collée au
  sud-ouest de
   Paris) j'ai découvert des highway=unclassified en centre
  ville.
  
  
   Il me semble qu'il s'agit systématiquement d'une erreur, que
  j'ai
   corrigé en residential (d'autant plus qu'il y avait un name
   renseigné).
   Si vous confirmez que pour vous il s'agit également d'un
  élément
   étrange, serait-il pertinent d'avoir une analyse osmose sur
  voies dans
   un landuse=residential pour détecter ce genre de choses ?
  j'avais tenté une analyse pour detecter les highways
  incohérents:
  residential, living_street, etc... a l'intérieur/chevauchant
  des
  landuses allotments,farm, industrial ...
  ou
  unclassified pour les landuses residential
 
  il y avait énormément d'erreur:
  - mauvaise emprise/description des landuses (clc)
  - les description residential/unclassified ne s'arretent pas a
  la limite
  des landuses
 
  -
  
  
   Cordialement,
   --
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Bruno Cortial
Le 11 avril 2014 09:25, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit :

  Euh, quelqu'un a le culot de leur demander la licence des tuiles ? Ils
 parlent de mise à disposition pour tracer dans OSM. Mais j'ai pas encore
 trouvé la licence. Pourquoi pas *plus* libre que ça ?
 Non, le choix de licence n'est pas une question financière. Je vous
 l'affirme haut et fort il y a quelques semaines
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21221
 JB.



*Mapbox grants You a license to tracing imagery to produce derivative
vector datasets for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in
OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/. Producing derivative vector
datasets from imagery for commercial purposes requires buying a Mapbox
Commercial Satellite license https://www.mapbox.com/commercial-satellite.
*
Pourquoi pas plus libre ? Ils ne sont pas producteur initial des données.
Ils ont trouvé un moyen de rendre ces images exploitables, j'imagine que
libérer plus leur couterait très cher. C'est un peu la même chose avec
Bing, non ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden JB
Oui, mais Bing ne demande pas à OSM à mettre ses données dans le domaine 
public, si ?

JB.

Le 11/04/2014 10:25, Bruno Cortial a écrit :
Le 11 avril 2014 09:25, JB jb...@mailoo.org 
mailto:jb...@mailoo.org a écrit :


Euh, quelqu'un a le culot de leur demander la licence des tuiles ?
Ils parlent de mise à disposition pour tracer dans OSM. Mais j'ai
pas encore trouvé la licence. Pourquoi pas /plus/ libre que ça ?
Non, le choix de licence n'est pas une question financière. Je
vous l'affirme haut et fort il y a quelques semaines
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21221
JB.


/Mapbox grants You a license to tracing imagery to produce derivative 
vector datasets for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in 
OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/. Producing derivative 
vector datasets from imagery for commercial purposes requires buying a 
Mapbox Commercial Satellite license 
https://www.mapbox.com/commercial-satellite.

/
Pourquoi pas plus libre ? Ils ne sont pas producteur initial des 
données. Ils ont trouvé un moyen de rendre ces images exploitables, 
j'imagine que libérer plus leur couterait très cher. C'est un peu la 
même chose avec Bing, non ?


Bruno


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden V de Chateau-Thierry
Bonjour,

 De : Bruno Cortial

 Mapbox grants You a license to tracing imagery to produce derivative vector 
 datasets
 for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in OpenStreetMap. Producing 
 derivative
 vector datasets from imagery for commercial purposes requires buying a Mapbox
 Commercial Satellite license.

Je dessine à partir de l'imagerie fournie par MapBox
- je verse le résultat dans OSM
-- j'utilise OSM sur la même emprise pour constituer un produit que je vends

Au final, j'ai bien utilisé la source d'imagerie de MapBox, via un passage dans 
OSM, pour 
un usage à caractère commercial. J'ai une vision tordue de la chose, ou bien il 
y a 
comme une contradiction dans les droits qu'ils allouent ?

vincent

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden THEVENON Julien
 De : V de Chateau-Thierry v...@laposte.net

 Je dessine à partir de l'imagerie fournie par MapBox
 - je verse le résultat dans OSM
 -- j'utilise OSM sur la même emprise pour constituer un produit que je 
 vends

 Au final, j'ai bien utilisé la source d'imagerie de MapBox, via un passage 
 dans OSM, pour 
 un usage à caractère commercial. J'ai une vision tordue de la chose, ou 
 bien il y a 
 comme une contradiction dans les droits qu'ils allouent ?

Ils font peut etre une exception pour OSM. C est pareil avec l imagerie Bing 
non ?

Julien
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Bruno Cortial
Le 11 avril 2014 10:37, V de Chateau-Thierry v...@laposte.net a écrit :

 Bonjour,

  De : Bruno Cortial
 
  Mapbox grants You a license to tracing imagery to produce derivative
 vector datasets
  for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in OpenStreetMap.
 Producing derivative
  vector datasets from imagery for commercial purposes requires buying a
 Mapbox
  Commercial Satellite license.

 Je dessine à partir de l'imagerie fournie par MapBox
 - je verse le résultat dans OSM
 -- j'utilise OSM sur la même emprise pour constituer un produit que je
 vends

 Au final, j'ai bien utilisé la source d'imagerie de MapBox, via un passage
 dans OSM, pour
 un usage à caractère commercial. J'ai une vision tordue de la chose, ou
 bien il y a
 comme une contradiction dans les droits qu'ils allouent ?



Ils incitent à la contribution OSM. Pas content ? ;-)

Il ne faut pas considérer la remise en question du share alike sur la base
d'un pillage, de domaine public, CC0...
Le pb soulevé sur la licence est lié d'abord à l'utilisation des données et
en particulier à l'assemblage de données OdBL avec d'autres données
protégée.
Les règles de contamination sont obscure pour moi. Et c'est sur ce point
que la fondation se doit de répondre.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden V de Chateau-Thierry

 De : THEVENON Julien

 Ils font peut etre une exception pour OSM. C est pareil avec l imagerie Bing 
 non ?

Oui, mais c'est la formulation même de l'exception que je trouve bancale : 
...for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in OpenStreetMap

M'enfin...

vincent

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imagerie mondiale DigitalGloble disponible pour OSM

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Christophe Merlet
Le 11/04/2014 10:37, V de Chateau-Thierry a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 De : Bruno Cortial

 Mapbox grants You a license to tracing imagery to produce derivative vector 
 datasets
 for non-commercial purposes, including tracing in OpenStreetMap. Producing 
 derivative
 vector datasets from imagery for commercial purposes requires buying a Mapbox
 Commercial Satellite license.
 
 Je dessine à partir de l'imagerie fournie par MapBox
 - je verse le résultat dans OSM
 -- j'utilise OSM sur la même emprise pour constituer un produit que je vends
 
 Au final, j'ai bien utilisé la source d'imagerie de MapBox, via un passage 
 dans OSM, pour 
 un usage à caractère commercial. J'ai une vision tordue de la chose, ou bien 
 il y a 
 comme une contradiction dans les droits qu'ils allouent ?

Dans la mesure où tu es passé par OSM, tu as versé au pot commun et tout
le monde peut en profiter.
C'est une grande différence à dériver directement des photos satellites
pour vendre un produit dont tu es le seul bénéficiaire.


Librement,
-- 
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[OSM-talk-fr] Utilisation du PLU de Lyon

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden François Lacombe
Bonjour,

Je m'interroge sur les possibilités d'utiliser les informations présentées
sur la couche Servitude d'utilité publiques du PLU du Grand Lyon.
http://plu.grandlyon.com/plu.php?select_commune=SAINT_FONS

On y voit les lignes électriques souterraines, les pipelines, que des infos
qui sont normalement difficile à avoir sauf si on suit les travaux ou
visibles sur les vues aériennes.
Sur d'autres pdf correspondants aux annexes, on a des informations sur la
distribution d'eau potable.

Le Grand Lyon dispose d'une plateforme OpenData, mais rien n'est diffusé à
propos de ces servitudes.
Quelqu'un aurait-il des informations sur la licence, éventuellement une
dérogation accordée à OSM ?


Merci par avance.

*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Jérôme Amagat
En regardant en dans des ville d'euope rapidement avec :
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/332
J'ai l'impression que c'est le même bordel partout.

j'annonce tout de suite que mon niveau d'anglais n'est pas terrible mais
quand je lis :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dresidential
En français ou en anglais je comprend pas toujours la même chose.
Surtout ça :

   - *residential* - street or road generally used only by people that live
   on that road or roads that branch off it. (
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dresidential)

Surtout le only qui me fait penser qu'il peut il y avoir des route en
ville qui ne sont pas assez importante pour être des tertiary et qu'il faut
tagger unclasified.




Le 11 avril 2014 10:18, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jb.holcr...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 Merci Didier !

 Sur cette base :
 * l'analyse de didier
 http://osm2020.free.fr/teste/analyser_osmosis_residential_landuse-debugwithjosm.xml.html
 * le contenu du wiki anglophone (avec cas d'applications)
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified
 * le contenu du wiki français (2ème phrase)
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway%3Dunclassified

 Cette analyse décrite ci-dessous fait-elle consensus ?
 * L'analyse menée : highway=residential en dehors d'un landuse=residential
 et les highway=unclassified au sein d'un landuse=residential
 * L'analyse vise à permettre :
   * de détecter les unclassified qui sont résidentiels et vice-versa
   * d'affiner les landuse=residential à améliorer

 Merci pour votre vote ;)

 --
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 Le 10 avril 2014 22:41, didier2020 didier2...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 à 09:08 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft a écrit :
  Didier, peux tu nous mettre quelque chose a disposition pour discuter
  sur des éléments concrets ?

 j'ai pris une commune en seine et marne
 le fichier html suivant charge les ways avec josm

 http://osm2020.free.fr/teste/analyser_osmosis_residential_landuse-debugwithjosm.xml.html



 
  Pour précision : effectivement mon propos concerne bien uniquement les
  way des 'zones habitées' que j'estime être dans un landuse
  résidential.
 
  Cette détection permettrait deux choses : détecter des rues mal tagées
  ou des landuse mal découpés.
 
  À mon avis, la présomption d'une vitesse à 50km/h sur ces voies a du
  sens faute de maxspeed explicite.
 
  Le concept de unclassified en ville ne me semble peu probable.
  Exemple : on peut parfaitement materialiser une residential avec une
  largeur de 6m et sidewalk=no si c'est important de caractériser que ça
  ne ressemble pas a une rue résidentielle de carte postale.
 
  La seule interrogation que j'ai réside sur les voies d'accès a des
  zones industrielles ou commerciales.
 
  Pour savoir où j'ai fait ma modification, il suffit de regarder les
  deux dernières modifications récentes de JIBEC. C'est dans mon commit
  de mise a jour manuelle du cadastre.
 
  Le 9 avr. 2014 18:15, didier2020 didier2...@free.fr a écrit :
  Le mercredi 09 avril 2014 à 17:46 +0200, Jean-Baptiste
  Holcroft a
  écrit :
   Bonjour,
  
  
   Ayant travaillé hier sur Châtillon (ville collée au
  sud-ouest de
   Paris) j'ai découvert des highway=unclassified en centre
  ville.
  
  
   Il me semble qu'il s'agit systématiquement d'une erreur, que
  j'ai
   corrigé en residential (d'autant plus qu'il y avait un name
   renseigné).
   Si vous confirmez que pour vous il s'agit également d'un
  élément
   étrange, serait-il pertinent d'avoir une analyse osmose sur
  voies dans
   un landuse=residential pour détecter ce genre de choses ?
  j'avais tenté une analyse pour detecter les highways
  incohérents:
  residential, living_street, etc... a l'intérieur/chevauchant
  des
  landuses allotments,farm, industrial ...
  ou
  unclassified pour les landuses residential
 
  il y avait énormément d'erreur:
  - mauvaise emprise/description des landuses (clc)
  - les description residential/unclassified ne s'arretent pas a
  la limite
  des landuses
 
  -
  
  
   Cordialement,
   --
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Pieren
2014-04-11 19:20 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Amagat jerome.ama...@gmail.com:

 Surtout le only qui me fait penser qu'il peut il y avoir des route en
 ville qui ne sont pas assez importante pour être des tertiary et qu'il faut
 tagger unclasified.

Comme je l'ai dit, une rue en ville sans résidences (habitations),
par exemple une zone commerciale ou industrielle, qui est en dessous
de tertiary, peut très bien être classée en unclassified.

Pieren

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Jérôme Amagat
*residential* - street or road generally used only by people that live on
that road or roads that branch off it.
pour moi ça veux dire :
rue généralement utilisé seulement par des gens qui vivent dans cette rue
ou une rue accrocher à elle.
donc il est pas question de : si il y a des maison c'est résidentiel et si
il n'y en a pas c'est unclassified.


Le 11 avril 2014 19:24, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit :

 2014-04-11 19:20 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Amagat jerome.ama...@gmail.com:

  Surtout le only qui me fait penser qu'il peut il y avoir des route en
  ville qui ne sont pas assez importante pour être des tertiary et qu'il
 faut
  tagger unclasified.

 Comme je l'ai dit, une rue en ville sans résidences (habitations),
 par exemple une zone commerciale ou industrielle, qui est en dessous
 de tertiary, peut très bien être classée en unclassified.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden JB
Perso, je trouve que je suis moins maniaque que ce que je pensais (et le 
problème me passe au dessus de la tête)...
Mais je crois quand même qu'on peut être d'accord qu'il y a un problème 
là, dans la page residential :


 * *unclassified* - a road that has no administrative classification
   ref http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref=*. Unclassified
   roads typically form the lowest form of the interconnecting grid
   network. (See also highway
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=unclassified
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified.)

introduit dans la version du 12 mai 2010. (traduction : « une route qui 
n'a pas de classement administratif ref=*... »)

JB.

Le 11/04/2014 19:24, Pieren a écrit :

2014-04-11 19:20 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Amagat jerome.ama...@gmail.com:


Surtout le only qui me fait penser qu'il peut il y avoir des route en
ville qui ne sont pas assez importante pour être des tertiary et qu'il faut
tagger unclasified.

Comme je l'ai dit, une rue en ville sans résidences (habitations),
par exemple une zone commerciale ou industrielle, qui est en dessous
de tertiary, peut très bien être classée en unclassified.

Pieren

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Pieren
2014-04-11 19:36 GMT+02:00 JB jb...@mailoo.org:

 unclassified - a road that has no administrative classification ref=*.
 Unclassified roads typically form the lowest form of the interconnecting
 grid network. (See also highway=unclassified.)

J'ai corrigé. Ca correspondait à la définition des unclassified en
Angleterre et bien que le systeme de classification des highway OSM
nous arrive directement de chez-eux, cette page du wiki doit conserver
un caractère plus universel.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Highway=unclassified en ville

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Philippe Verdy
Cette définition anglaise est inapplicable en France (en tout cas pas pour
les voiries à reveêtement artificialisé, peut-être uniquement pour des
petits sentiers ou allées privés qui n'auraient aucune classification
publique).

la voirie en France, si elle n'est pas sur une parcelle privée, appartient
à une collectivité qui l'a en charge et lui applique une numérotation.
La numération en France indique le type de collectivité mais pas réellement
le type de route (primaire, secondaire...) car on a des départementales qui
sont aussi larges que des autoroutes et des nationales plus petites que
certaines voies communales (boulevards urbains non classés comme
départementales car ne desservant que la seule commune elle-même). De plus
des tas de transferts ont eu lieu de l'Etat vers les régions, départements,
métropoles ou communes, après étude des schémas de déplacement urbains et
interurbains et des autres moyens de communication et migrations de
populations et de leurs besoins.

Utiliser le numéro de référence comme discriminant est une mauvaise idée
(je ne suis même pas sû que ça marche bien, même en Angleterre). On a des
tags séparés qui ont vocation à rester orthogonaux entre eux, la valeur de
highway=* étant plus descriptive des plans de routage et conditions de
circulation.


2014-04-11 22:30 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:

 2014-04-11 19:36 GMT+02:00 JB jb...@mailoo.org:

  unclassified - a road that has no administrative classification ref=*.
  Unclassified roads typically form the lowest form of the interconnecting
  grid network. (See also highway=unclassified.)

 J'ai corrigé. Ca correspondait à la définition des unclassified en
 Angleterre et bien que le systeme de classification des highway OSM
 nous arrive directement de chez-eux, cette page du wiki doit conserver
 un caractère plus universel.

 Pieren

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[OSM-talk-fr] Atelier umap avec Parinux?

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Marc Gailis
Salut à tous,
Je suis membre de Parinux, et certains de nos adhérents, à notre AG,
lorsqu'on a demandé ce qu'ils voulaient comme ateliers, nous ont dit qu'ils
voulaient des ateliers umap.
Parinux est le GUL parisien, qui compte 42 adhérents (non, ce n'est pas
fait exprès), et qui fournit des moyens techniques pour des événements du
libre parisien; on donne du support à l'Ubuntu Party, on a les contacts
pour des lieux.
Y aurait-il des volontaires?

Jean-Marc Gailis
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Re: [OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。

Zoom 17なので、このくらいの解像度は仕方ないのかなー、と思います(^^;
これより大きなZoomレベルは、状況に応じて更新・追加されるのじゃないかな、と思います。

また、OSM以外の用途として、商用で有料版だしたりもしてるみたいで、
有料版は、24時間以内の画像提供、10年前まで遡った提供なんかもできるようす。
災害発生時にどこまで力を発揮できるか、かなり期待しています。
(昨年のフィリピン台風の際の赤十字からの要望、これでかなりの部分カバーできるロジが揃っているので)

あと、今日Mapboxからアナウンスがあって、
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/new-imagery-for-openstreetmap/

その中に、「ここらへんよく見えないんだけどリクエスト」があります。
Zoomレベルを上げてもらうのは難しいかもしれないですが、
雲が多くて隠れてしまっている場所を、リクエストで差し替えるのを受け付けています。
とりあえず、伊豆大島や姫路の周辺は要望だしてみました (*´ω`*)
https://www.mapbox.com/labs/request/#3/0.00/0.00







2014年4月11日 7:32 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:31:29AM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  いいだです。
 
  Digital Globeの衛星画像が、Mapbox衛星画像として配信開始されました。
  欧州とアメリカではZoom19。日本など、その他の地域はZoom17での提供となります。
 
 
 http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2014/04/09/mappingtheworldinosm/?sf24847354=1
 
  JOSMのメニューから 画像  Mapbox衛星画像、で表示することができます。

 ちょっと見てみましたが、結構荒いですね。建物トレースには向かなくて、
 大きな構造物とかそういうものなら使える、と言う感じでしょうか。


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[OSM-ja] 街区の住所・addr:blocknumberタグについて

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。

以前に議論した、日本の街区の住所をあらわすタグなのですが、
その中で、 街区 addr:blocknumber があります。
これに関連して、最近 dev のMLで日本の住所検索の議論がありました。

結論からいうと、addr:block_number (アンダースコアあり)のほうが
よいのではないかと思っていて、
できれば、日本のタグ定義を、アンダースコアありに変更したいな、と思っています。

現在、addr:blocknumber は、200強くらいの利用数があります。
addr:block_number は、フィリピンを中心に、4000強の利用数です。

もし移行に反対がなければ、
既に登録されているアンダースコアなしのオブジェクトについては、
僕のほうで抽出・書き換えを行います。

4月15日くらいまでご意見をいただいて、
反対がなければ、19日・20日の週末辺りに
タグの書き換え作業と、OSM wikiの記述変更をしたいな、と思っています。

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Key:addr
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApY7X6fw8sqxdDNjY1FBeG00TlRZSFoxU2xwOHVCb0E#gid=0

住所変換用のスクリプトを作成いただいているかたもいらっしゃるので申し訳ないですが、
なにかアクションを起こすなら早いうちがよいだろう、ということで
なにとぞよろしくお願いいたします m(_ _)m


■経緯
いま、dev MLで、日本の住所検索の話をしています。
そのなかで、addr:block_numberタグのほうが利用数が多いけど、これは何?という話になりました。

調べてみたところ、フィリピンで使われていたので、
フィリピンのMLへ問い合わせをしました。
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-April/005034.html
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Addressing

どうやら、ストリートの名称が決まる前の住宅区画で住所として使われているらしく、
2年ほど前、タグのProposalが、アンダースコアあり版であったようです。
タグが意味するところの概念もほぼ一緒です。

なので、いままだ登録数が少ない日本の側が合わせたほうがよいだろうな、と思っています。



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Re: [OSM-ja] 街区の住所・addr:blocknumberタグについて

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Hiroshi Miura(@osmf)
いいださん

いつも、タグの議論をフォローいただきありがとうございます
多い方に合わせるのが良いと思います。

OSMでは、タグの実績数も、参考にして、レンダリングするかどうか、
考えたりしていますものね。

賛成します!


On 2014年04月12日 12:29, Satoshi IIDA wrote:

 いいだです。

 以前に議論した、日本の街区の住所をあらわすタグなのですが、
 その中で、 街区 addr:blocknumber があります。
 これに関連して、最近 dev のMLで日本の住所検索の議論がありました。

 結論からいうと、addr:block_number (アンダースコアあり)のほうが
 よいのではないかと思っていて、
 できれば、日本のタグ定義を、アンダースコアありに変更したいな、と思っています。

 現在、addr:blocknumber は、200強くらいの利用数があります。
 addr:block_number は、フィリピンを中心に、4000強の利用数です。

 もし移行に反対がなければ、
 既に登録されているアンダースコアなしのオブジェクトについては、
 僕のほうで抽出・書き換えを行います。

 4月15日くらいまでご意見をいただいて、
 反対がなければ、19日・20日の週末辺りに
 タグの書き換え作業と、OSM wikiの記述変更をしたいな、と思っています。
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Addresses

三浦

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[Talk-us] State of the Map US is sold out

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Bonnie Bogle
Hi all,
Exciting news - State of the Map US sold out this morning, 
http://openstreetmap.us/2014/04/sotmus-sold-out/. It's incredible to see so 
much excitement for improving OpenStreetMap. 

I can't wait to see everyone this weekend. For those who couldn't get a ticket, 
we're recording all sessions. Watch http://openstreetmap.us/blog/ for links to 
the videos early next week. 

Cheers, 
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[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Richard Weait
Address inspector tool now spans the globe!  See Frederik's announcement


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Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just had
Europe before). The code that runs the analyses behind it is based on
the new Osmium library and is available on Github. The new view is
available now on OSMI (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi).

This blog entry has more details: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

I wish to thank Geotab Inc. who are sponsoring the server that runs the
analyses, as well as Lukas Toggenburger, who re-implemented the checks
in C++ so that everything is fast enough for world-wide processing (we
had been using an SQL based process before).

Bye
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Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Martijn van Exel
Thanks for forwarding these relevant announcements to talk-us, Richard! I
know many of us are not on talk@ - including me - so I appreciate it!


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 Address inspector tool now spans the globe!  See Frederik's announcement


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 From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
 Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view
 To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org


 Hi,

 the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just had
 Europe before). The code that runs the analyses behind it is based on
 the new Osmium library and is available on Github. The new view is
 available now on OSMI (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi).

 This blog entry has more details: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=309

 I wish to thank Geotab Inc. who are sponsoring the server that runs the
 analyses, as well as Lukas Toggenburger, who re-implemented the checks
 in C++ so that everything is fast enough for world-wide processing (we
 had been using an SQL based process before).

 Bye
 Frederik

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