Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

A detailed map is an essential tool for firefighters, ambulance, and 
police. And not only of the town itself but also of the countryside 
especially along railways and automobile roads.


The city of Stockholm built an interactive public transportation map on 
the basis of OSM: https://sl.se/en/ . People can see still at home when 
their bus is arriving at the stop.


The city of Odessa created the similar public transportation map but on 
the basis of a commercial map: http://transport.odessa.ua/ . It was 
extremely useful web-application, one could see how the trams' 
geo-markers were moving on the map. The web-application became very 
popular, and the commercial map underneath stopped working normally for 
some, probably also commercial, reason.


I mean a  municipal project which is based on an open data map running 
on the municipal server could be more resilient and affordable, 
especially if it becomes popular.


A big separate topic is e-commerce delivery services. A rookie delivery 
driver may search for an address in a city in some cases for hours. This 
excessive driving could be reduced significantly if a driver could see a 
delivery address on the map. It would mean less pollution, accidents, 
pavement wear.


Best regards,
Oleksiy

On 03.01.19 22:07, John Whelan wrote:
I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was 
passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government 
point of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having 
their municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.


Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they 
are located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers 
etc.


Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?

It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify 
some expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cad'ortho de Noël...

[HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT GE PPE)]

Enfin sur Lyon, l’orthophoto est surtout à 8 cm. La prise de vue drone ( a 1 
cm) ne concerne que moins de 10 ha.

De : Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr]
Envoyé : jeudi 3 janvier 2019 23:17
À : Discussions sur OSM en français 
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cad'ortho de Noël...

Je viens d'ajouter le 54 (Meurthe et Moselle) provenant de l'Ortho HR de 2015 
publiée en opendata par la région Grand Est.
J'ai aussi ajouté l'ortho 2015 de Brest.

Vous trouverez sur la carte umap des marqueurs pour les ortho les plus récentes 
ou d'une résolution au delà de 20cm

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/ortho-photos-opendata_278682#6/46.104/2.714

Et le bouton pour accéder aux éditeurs (colonne de gauche) est activé.


Le ven. 28 déc. 2018 à 18:17, Christian Quest 
mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :
Les zones blanches en bord d'ortho se sont bien améliorées, mais c'est pas 
encore parfait pour certaines (quand le blanc n'est pas si blanc que ça).

J'ai mis en place un cache de tuiles TMS... c'est pas parfait, mais ça aide.

Ajout de:
- l'ortho HR 2017 est complète, 2016 et 2015 sont encore à compléter sur 8 
départements
- Rennes 2014 (à 10cm), meilleure que l'ortho HR (et c'est la même prise de 
vues)
- Ortho Littorale v2... côte Atlantique et Méditerranée sont couvertes, la 
Manche arrive


Le jeu. 27 déc. 2018 à 16:24, Christian Quest 
mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :
Cette couche ne montre QUE les orthos qui datent de 2017 et il y a PACA, une 
partie de la Bourgogne et les Antilles (tout n'est d'ailleurs pas encore 
intégrésur la BD Ortho).

La couche 'orthohr' combine toutes les années et mettant les plus récentes en 
avant.
J'ai aussi mis à jour la couche 'tous_fr' qui combine toutes les orthos FR avec 
les plus récentes et les plus hautes def en priorité.

Il y a encore quelques trucs à améliorer:
- des zones blanches en bord d'une ortho qui masquent la voisine
- un précalcul pour accélérer certains affichages


Le jeu. 27 déc. 2018 à 15:47, Cyrille37 OSM 
mailto:cyrille%2btalk...@giquello.fr>> a écrit :

Quel Cad'Ô génial, merci !

Dans josm j'ai ajouté orthohr_2017 :
tms[20]:http://wms.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/orthohr_2017/{zoom}/{x}/{y}

Mais je ne vois des tuiles que sur une petite zone (Franche-comté et Aix en 
provence):
https://framapic.org/fO09YhRaahUP/3MHcnpWyqtZd.png

As tu une idée du pourquoi ?

Cyrille37
Le 27/12/2018 à 11:30, Christian Quest a écrit :
J'ai complété la wiki: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Serveurs/wms.openstreetmap.fr

Le détail des couches couvrant une partie du territoire français a été ajoutée.

Au total... plus de 12 tera-pixels disponibles (l'équivallent de 1 million de 
photos de 12 Mpix).
Ceci occupe un peu moins de 2To d'espace disque (sans compter les caches).

Viennent d'être ajoutés:
- Nancy 1994, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2012
- Lyon 2015 (89cm)
- l'ortho littorale de 2002 (50cm)

Il ne manque plus que deux départements (58 et 70) sur les ortho HR de 2017.
En cours de téléchargement, l'ortho HR 2015 des départements 54, 55, 57 et 88, 
qui ne sont pas listés sur le site de l'IGN mais dispo sur le site opendata de 
la région.


Le mar. 25 déc. 2018 à 20:55, Christian Quest 
mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :
Le père Noël a apporté des orthos dans sa hotte !

Du nouveau sur wms.openstreetmap.fr:
- les ortho "HR" à 20cm des années 2013 à 2016, 2017 n'est pas encore complète 
(manque la Bourgne et les Antilles)
- Mulhouse 2018 (8cm)
- Toulouse 2017 (10cm)
- Bayonne 2016 (6cm)
- Nancy 2016 (7.5cm)
- Lyon: petite orthos sur Fourviere (2016, 1cm), le Parc OL à Lyon (2016, 8cm) 
et St Fons (2018, 2cm), l'ortho à 8cm de 2015 est en cours de download.

Plus anciennes mais à nouveau disponibles:
- Région PACA 2009-2010

Tout ça arrive directement dans JOSM...

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[talk-au] Editing kickoff Australia Zealand

[Horea Meleg]

Hi everyone!

This is Horea and I am part of the mapping team at Telenav.

To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, our mapping team 
is planning to start editing in Australia/New Zealand.

Starting this January until June we will focus on road geometry, road name, 
oneways, signpost, speed limit, lanes and turn lanes in Auckland, Canberra, 
Perth and Melbourne.

This is where you come in! Beside the general OSM mapping guidelines 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Road_Tagging),
 do you have any local mapping guidelines for us? Also, we appreciate any hints 
regarding available local or government data (besides 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue) that we might be 
able to us.

We'd love any input and advice!

If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Also, more 
details about our work and plans can be found on Github 
Repository and 
Telenav Wiki Page. We 
will announce specific editing projects on our Github at least two weeks in 
advance.

Our team members are also on the Maptime Oceania Slack, so we can be reached 
there too.

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Re: [talk-ph] Review of GlobalLogic edits in the Philippines

[grab osm]

Hello Ian
Happy and Prosperous New Year
Thanks for taking time to quickly check our edits and share feedback.

Here are our observations on the findings -
1  iffy change-set which deleted all roads in Carnasa/Carnaza Island in
northern Cebu https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65332385
Roads in this change-set were created by our editor in an island without
any connectivity(Isolated), hence, were deleted during our internal
validation(Quality check).  We were not sure if roads can be created and
left in isolation.  We have such instances in other cities of Indonesia
which could be connected through ferry route, but we are not creating such
roads as we are not clear on the connectivity basis satellite imagery.

2.  Deleting and re-creating a feature, as what happened to the area around
the Magellan Shrine in Lapu-Lapu City -
Existing road was partitioned as it was initially created as a loop.

It infact was not deleted and re-created, but a partition made

which
might have led Osmcha to represent it as deleted segment

As you rightly mentioned our edits are focused on road geometry - creation
and modification(alignment and attribute corrections of existing data as
appropriate following OSM guidelines)

Kindly suggest if we are missing anything

Thanks
GrabTeam

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 19:46 Ian Lopez  Hello and happy New Year to all.
>
> In the wake of issues between OpenStreetMap contributors in Thailand and
> editors from GlobalLogic [1] I've decided to review a selection of edits
> in the Philippines done by the GlobalLogic team over the past 12 months.
>
> As soon as I started my review, I immediately spotted at least one iffy
> changeset [2] which deleted all roads in Carnasa/Carnaza Island in
> northern Cebu. The said changeset was reverted afterwards [3]. In addition,
> I saw a bad practice, which is deleting and re-creating a feature, as what
> happened to the area around the Magellan Shrine in Lapu-Lapu City [4]. 
> However,
> not all edits are destructive as new roads were added in places such as
> Pampanga [5]
>
> From what I've seen so far, there is a common theme among GlobalLogic
> edits, such as addition, reclassification and modification of streets. In
> fact, most of the edits revolve around highway data.
>
> For those interested in reviewing the edits made by the GlobalLogic team,
> I left a link at the bottom of this email [6].
>
> [1] as documented in
> https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/client/snv?noteGuid=9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635¬eKey=048c3a2daac0289b=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635/048c3a2daac0289b=Response%2Bto%2BGrab%2527s%2BResponse%2Bon%2BOSM
> 
> [2] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65332385, visualization
> at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65332385
> [3] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65913856, visualization
> at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65913856. Prior to the
> deletion, an editor from the GlobalLogic team added roads in the island (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64226169, visualization at
> https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=64226169)
> [4] see
> https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=59139193=18=10.31114=124.01558=B00TTTFT
> for visualization
> [5] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62328028, visualization
> at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=62328028
> [6] see
> https://osmcha.mapbox.com/filters?aoi=ffa1c52a-9020-4bd1-8d20-6cbb70bcd5be,
> URL only works when logged in to an existing OpenStreetMap account
> -
> Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/
> OpenStreetMap/Twitter: ianlopez1115
> Facebook: ian.lopez
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>
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Re: [talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

[Warin]

On 04/01/19 13:17, Andrew Harvey wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for
copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop 
locations, and route shape information in
"General Transit Feed Specification" from 
https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/timetables-complete-gtfs
as stated in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.

That's not true. You'll see we have the SA Adelaide Metro GTFS through
the SA government CC BY waiver,

QLD's Translink, NSW's TfNSW, ACT's ACTION I sent waiver's but haven't
received them back completed yet.


Arr it does say "sent' .. that did not go through to the brain as 'sent to 
them' but could be interpreted as 'sent by them'.
Glad I asked. Better wording? "OSM has applied for" .. and I think you'll need 
a year :(



Stepping back, there are a lot of bus routes in NSW and they do change
over time, it would be a huge effort to map them all out, keep them up
to date, current and maintained (they break sometimes when people edit
the road network). Given the GTFS data is already open, is it worth
that effort?


Without them being in OSM they won't appear in things like OSMAnd ..

Things like admin boundaries break when people edit roads too ... people seem 
to think they are worth the effort.
With the format being GTFS it should be fairly easy to update .. provided OSM 
retains access.


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Re: [talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

[Andrew Harvey]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for
> copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop 
> locations, and route shape information in
> "General Transit Feed Specification" from 
> https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/timetables-complete-gtfs
> as stated in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.

That's not true. You'll see we have the SA Adelaide Metro GTFS through
the SA government CC BY waiver,

QLD's Translink, NSW's TfNSW, ACT's ACTION I sent waiver's but haven't
received them back completed yet.

In the case of QLD there was an explicit permission, from before the
waiver's and TMR is already providing the waiver for the state road
centerlines, so would probably be open to the their GTFS as well, but
we don't have it.

In NSW TfNSW are very OpenStreetMap friendly with their trip planner
https://transportnsw.info using OpenStreetMap for routing and maps,
and although we don't have the waiver yet, I'm still expecting it will
be provided.

Stepping back, there are a lot of bus routes in NSW and they do change
over time, it would be a huge effort to map them all out, keep them up
to date, current and maintained (they break sometimes when people edit
the road network). Given the GTFS data is already open, is it worth
that effort?

> It would be 'nice' to get this data into OSM for bus routes in public 
> transport v2.
>
> Before I start experimenting (not importing at this stage - just want to see 
> what is involved), as there any comment s... like "no - copyright withdrawn" 
> etc?

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Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[Jo]

Ich möchte da gern mitmachen. Mein Deutsch ist wohl nicht perfekt. Ich
musste wohl noch suchen wo ich schlafen kann. Leider kein Geld für Hotel.

Polyglot

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:09 AM Rainer  wrote:

> Hallo André,
>
> ich habe mich entschlossen dieses Jahr am OSM-Stand mitzuhelfen.
> Wie ist der zeitliche Rahmen, d.h. wann geht's am Sa los und wann ist am
> So Schluß?
> Wie läuft die Anmeldung, koordinierst du das für den OSM-Stand? Auf der
> Wiki-Seite habe ich mich eingetragen.
>
> Viele Grüße,
> Rainer
>
> Am 03.01.19 um 13:37 schrieb André Riedel:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > für die diesjährigen Chemnitzer Linux-Tage suchen wir noch
> > Mitstreiter, welche uns am OpenStreetMap-Stand unterstützen. Diese
> > finden am 16. und 17. März statt. Weitere Informationen findet ihr im
> > Wiki.
> >
> > Da der Anmeldeschluss in zwei Tagen ist, benötige ich auch eine
> > kurzfriste Zusage.
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linux-Tage_2019
> >
> > Mit besten Grüßen
> > André
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[Talk-GB] drawing internal parts of buildings

[BD]

Hi all and Happy New Year,   I was trying to capture Peterboroughs 
Serpentine Green shopping centre with all of its internal segments.  And those 
are the results:  www.openstreetmap.org www.openstreetmap.org   Yes, I guess 
some of you will spot that there are no (visible) parts to the shop. Well yes, 
but I did spent some time and now would like to ask for your advise before more 
time is waisted.   Firstly, I would like to avoid mapping this building with 
separate building objects as this is one large shop. So solution like this is 
not going to satisfy my requirements ;)   www.openstreetmap.org 
www.openstreetmap.org   Please tell me how can I get something like St. Jude 
Church layout from Google on OSM.   www.google.com www.google.com   Many 
thanks,  dzidek23
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Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[Rainer]

Hallo André,

ich habe mich entschlossen dieses Jahr am OSM-Stand mitzuhelfen.
Wie ist der zeitliche Rahmen, d.h. wann geht's am Sa los und wann ist am 
So Schluß?
Wie läuft die Anmeldung, koordinierst du das für den OSM-Stand? Auf der 
Wiki-Seite habe ich mich eingetragen.


Viele Grüße,
Rainer

Am 03.01.19 um 13:37 schrieb André Riedel:

Hallo,

für die diesjährigen Chemnitzer Linux-Tage suchen wir noch
Mitstreiter, welche uns am OpenStreetMap-Stand unterstützen. Diese
finden am 16. und 17. März statt. Weitere Informationen findet ihr im
Wiki.

Da der Anmeldeschluss in zwei Tagen ist, benötige ich auch eine
kurzfriste Zusage.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linux-Tage_2019

Mit besten Grüßen
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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi Yosem, 

OSM is data, ArcGIS is software, so there is no straightforward answer to your 
question. You can load (and even edit[1], though I do not generally recommend 
that) OSM data into ArcGIS, and you can use OSM as a base map layer. They even 
provide a pretty nifty vector tile OSM map that mimics the native OSM 
rendering[2]. So your client can ‘use’ OpenStreetMap data in any software 
environment they like, including ArcGIS, as long as that usage does not violate 
the data license or relevant usage policies. If they want to ‘crowdsource’ data 
in the sense that they want to add data to OSM, they will need to consult with 
the community and have a very close look at import guidelines[3] (if they want 
to do a bulk import) and/or the organized editing policy[4].

[1] https://www.esri.com/en-us/arcgis/products/arcgis-editor-for-openstreetmap 
 
[2] 
http://esri.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=d6b18a2e774c4959ba855f6ac90952a2
 

 
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines 
 
[4] I don’t think the OSMF ratified version is published yet

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Yosem Companys  wrote:
> 
> How well do ArcGIS and OSM talk to each other? I have a client who has opted 
> for ArcGIS because his institution provides it for free. But I've always 
> thought of OSM as the better option. Should my client use OSM instead, 
> especially given that he wants to crowdsource data?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:35 PM Martijn van Exel  > wrote:
> John — a fairly new resource is the Welcome site, 
> https://welcome.openstreetmap.org/why-openstreetmap/ 
>  specifically may be 
> interesting to point them to. It’s fairly high level and brief in its 
> explanations, but if gives organizations a place to start when they’re not 
> familiar with OSM and consider using it or contributing to it.
> 
> A common issue I have seen with governments wanting to use OSM data is the 
> license, so they should look into that if they intend to use OSM data as a 
> replacement / back-fill for any data they may now maintain themselves. Often 
> it’s a one-way street: Governments can contribute data to OSM but they can’t 
> use OSM data to enrich their own. YMMV, this is my experience from talking to 
> governments in the U.S.
> 
> Martijn
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:07 PM, John Whelan > > wrote:
>> 
>> I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was passed 
>> my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government point of view 
>> was there any advantage to the municipality in having their municipality 
>> mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap. 
>> 
>> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are 
>> located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.
>> 
>> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
>> 
>> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify some 
>> expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.
>> 
>> Thanks John
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[James]

Also to note that despite city believing their data is 100% correct, it
never seems to be the case thus requiring data manipulation/corrections. In
a way OSM is a repository with accurate/validated geo data

On Thu., Jan. 3, 2019, 5:40 p.m. john whelan  Then of course we have the mapping for the blind and disabled which are
> useful in supporting their citizens or visitors who are partially sighted
> or disabled.
>
> On the cycling front there are numerous maps, layers and routing software
> available as there are for footpaths to encourage walking so public health
> benefits.
>
> On the tourism side we have multilingual maps and then we have the simple
> making it easier to find municipal facilities.
>
> OSM has been used for countless student GIS projects or as an introduction
> to GIS.
>
> Then we have the idea of using crowd sourcing.
>
> I should probably gather these ideas and put them in the wiki together
> with the links.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 5:26 PM Mike N 
>> On 1/3/2019 5:13 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
>> > The slightly longer version is that there are likely economic benefits
>> > of many different kinds (traffic control, real estate, marketing and so
>> > on) that are difficult to quantify but are likely there.
>>
>>   Re: real estate use case - I have seen local agents refer to
>> neighborhoods that I put on OSM by surveying the new streets.  Clients
>> could be directed to use mapping apps to find a new neighborhood or new
>> street that is on a city's GIS but not on other maps yet.   (not sure
>> which app they tell their clients to use)
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[john whelan]

Then of course we have the mapping for the blind and disabled which are
useful in supporting their citizens or visitors who are partially sighted
or disabled.

On the cycling front there are numerous maps, layers and routing software
available as there are for footpaths to encourage walking so public health
benefits.

On the tourism side we have multilingual maps and then we have the simple
making it easier to find municipal facilities.

OSM has been used for countless student GIS projects or as an introduction
to GIS.

Then we have the idea of using crowd sourcing.

I should probably gather these ideas and put them in the wiki together with
the links.

Thanks John

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 5:26 PM Mike N  On 1/3/2019 5:13 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
> > The slightly longer version is that there are likely economic benefits
> > of many different kinds (traffic control, real estate, marketing and so
> > on) that are difficult to quantify but are likely there.
>
>   Re: real estate use case - I have seen local agents refer to
> neighborhoods that I put on OSM by surveying the new streets.  Clients
> could be directed to use mapping apps to find a new neighborhood or new
> street that is on a city's GIS but not on other maps yet.   (not sure
> which app they tell their clients to use)
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[osm . sanspourriel]

L'idée des cartes en breton, basque, occitan etc. dans JOSM c'est de 
voir rapidement les noms manquants dans la langue en question.


À la limite pour JOSM afficher uniquement les noms suffirait.

Avoir une catégorie spéciale langues me semble indispensable.

Je propose d'utiliser l'icône classique .

Bien sûr si en fonction du lieu on propose les cartes les plus adaptées 
c'est encore mieux mais le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.


Le 03/01/2019 à 22:47, Vincent Privat - vincent.pri...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hello,
Vu que le nombre de sources augmente beaucoup je prévois de ranger 
bientôt tout ce qui n'est pas catégorisé "photo" dans des sous-menus 
adéquats:


  * |map| a map
  * |historicmap| historic or otherwise outdated map
  * |osmbasedmap| map based on OSM data
  * |historicphoto| historic or otherwise outdated aerial or satellite
photo
  * |other| any other type

cf. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/16301#comment:23

A+
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Le jeu. 3 janv. 2019 à 17:21, marc marc > a écrit :


Le 03.01.19 à 16:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :
>> Le 3 janv. 2019 à 10:08, Antoine Riche a écrit :
>> ces fonds apparaissent par défaut dans le menu Imagerie.

> Quele est la nuisance réelle ?

extrapolons dans 10 ans : 200 rendu dans différents langues,
le menu josm doit contenir par défaut 200 rendu différent et tampi
celui celui qui voulait utiliser le menu imagerie pour... une
imagerie ?
cela me semble une nuisance évidente pour tous :)
à tout le moins un sous-menu serra à terme nécessaire.
En passant on notera que les autres rendus alternatif ne sont pas par
permanent dans le menu, il faut les activer dans les préférences.

> Ne serait-il pas plus logique de faire l’inverse et de mettre en
> arrière-plan des imageries très peu utilisées ?

quand tu vas dans le menu imagerie de josm, c'est pour choisir
une imagerie. la liste comprend rarement 10 entrées.
je ne comprendre pas où voudrais-tu qu'elles aillent "en arrière plan"

> Subsidiairement, les promoteurs des langues régionales en ont
assez de
> se faire expliquer que leurs demandes/besoins doivent toujours
passer après.

J'utilise parfois l'un ou l'autre rendu alternatif, je trouve
qu'il y a
rien de choquant à devoir faire un unique clic pour l'avoir dans
le menu
imagerie.
de manière plus constructive, peux-être est-il opportun de suggérer
à josm de tenir compte de la locale du pc où il tourne.
celui qui a un pc en local breton aurait le rendu en breton "par
défaut"
et le reste de la planète tournera comme avant.
les rendus autre que celui par défaut pourraient alors se trouver
dans un sous-menu dont je parlais ci-dessus.

On pourrait suggérer la même chose pour la couche imagerie "best" :
généralement c'est celle là que les gens vont activer en premier.
un sous-menu pourrait contenir les autres (couche + ancienne,
fournisseur alternatif, cadastre, etc)

Cordialement,
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[talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

[Warin]

Hi,

I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for 
copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop locations, and route shape information in

"General Transit Feed Specification" from 
https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/timetables-complete-gtfs
as stated in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.

It would be 'nice' to get this data into OSM for bus routes in public transport 
v2.

Before I start experimenting (not importing at this stage - just want to see what is 
involved), as there any comment s... like "no - copyright withdrawn" etc?



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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Mike N]

On 1/3/2019 5:13 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
The slightly longer version is that there are likely economic benefits 
of many different kinds (traffic control, real estate, marketing and so 
on) that are difficult to quantify but are likely there.


 Re: real estate use case - I have seen local agents refer to 
neighborhoods that I put on OSM by surveying the new streets.  Clients 
could be directed to use mapping apps to find a new neighborhood or new 
street that is on a city's GIS but not on other maps yet.   (not sure 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[joost schouppe]

John, might be worth pointing them to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_for_Government, which
collects some more advanced use cases by governments (often local).

I don't think it's mentioned there, but this is an example that is about as
awesome as it gets :
https://www.frontforce.be/news/hulpverleners-winnen-tijd-met-frontforce-emergency/
About how you can make a routing system adapted to fire services with osm.
Unfortunately in Dutch, maybe there are similar examples around.

Op do 3 jan. 2019 16:10 schreef John Whelan  I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was
> passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government point
> of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having their
> municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.
>
> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are
> located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.
>
> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
>
> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify some
> expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cad'ortho de Noël...

[Christian Quest]

Je viens d'ajouter le 54 (Meurthe et Moselle) provenant de l'Ortho HR de
2015 publiée en opendata par la région Grand Est.
J'ai aussi ajouté l'ortho 2015 de Brest.

Vous trouverez sur la carte umap des marqueurs pour les ortho les plus
récentes ou d'une résolution au delà de 20cm

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/ortho-photos-opendata_278682#6/46.104/2.714

Et le bouton pour accéder aux éditeurs (colonne de gauche) est activé.


Le ven. 28 déc. 2018 à 18:17, Christian Quest  a
écrit :

> Les zones blanches en bord d'ortho se sont bien améliorées, mais c'est pas
> encore parfait pour certaines (quand le blanc n'est pas si blanc que ça).
>
> J'ai mis en place un cache de tuiles TMS... c'est pas parfait, mais ça
> aide.
>
> Ajout de:
> - l'ortho HR 2017 est complète, 2016 et 2015 sont encore à compléter sur 8
> départements
> - Rennes 2014 (à 10cm), meilleure que l'ortho HR (et c'est la même prise
> de vues)
> - Ortho Littorale v2... côte Atlantique et Méditerranée sont couvertes, la
> Manche arrive
>
>
> Le jeu. 27 déc. 2018 à 16:24, Christian Quest  a
> écrit :
>
>> Cette couche ne montre QUE les orthos qui datent de 2017 et il y a PACA,
>> une partie de la Bourgogne et les Antilles (tout n'est d'ailleurs pas
>> encore intégrésur la BD Ortho).
>>
>> La couche 'orthohr' combine toutes les années et mettant les plus
>> récentes en avant.
>> J'ai aussi mis à jour la couche 'tous_fr' qui combine toutes les orthos
>> FR avec les plus récentes et les plus hautes def en priorité.
>>
>> Il y a encore quelques trucs à améliorer:
>> - des zones blanches en bord d'une ortho qui masquent la voisine
>> - un précalcul pour accélérer certains affichages
>>
>>
>> Le jeu. 27 déc. 2018 à 15:47, Cyrille37 OSM 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Quel Cad'Ô génial, merci !
>>>
>>> Dans josm j'ai ajouté orthohr_2017 :
>>> tms[20]:http://wms.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/orthohr_2017/
>>> {zoom}/{x}/{y}
>>>
>>> Mais je ne vois des tuiles que sur une petite zone (Franche-comté et Aix
>>> en provence):
>>> https://framapic.org/fO09YhRaahUP/3MHcnpWyqtZd.png
>>>
>>> As tu une idée du pourquoi ?
>>>
>>> Cyrille37
>>> Le 27/12/2018 à 11:30, Christian Quest a écrit :
>>>
>>> J'ai complété la wiki:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Serveurs/wms.openstreetmap.fr
>>>
>>> Le détail des couches couvrant une partie du territoire français a été
>>> ajoutée.
>>>
>>> Au total... plus de 12 tera-pixels disponibles (l'équivallent de 1
>>> million de photos de 12 Mpix).
>>> Ceci occupe un peu moins de 2To d'espace disque (sans compter les
>>> caches).
>>>
>>> Viennent d'être ajoutés:
>>> - Nancy 1994, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2012
>>> - Lyon 2015 (89cm)
>>> - l'ortho littorale de 2002 (50cm)
>>>
>>> Il ne manque plus que deux départements (58 et 70) sur les ortho HR de
>>> 2017.
>>> En cours de téléchargement, l'ortho HR 2015 des départements 54, 55, 57
>>> et 88, qui ne sont pas listés sur le site de l'IGN mais dispo sur le site
>>> opendata de la région.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 25 déc. 2018 à 20:55, Christian Quest 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Le père Noël a apporté des orthos dans sa hotte !

 Du nouveau sur wms.openstreetmap.fr:
 - les ortho "HR" à 20cm des années 2013 à 2016, 2017 n'est pas encore
 complète (manque la Bourgne et les Antilles)
 - Mulhouse 2018 (8cm)
 - Toulouse 2017 (10cm)
 - Bayonne 2016 (6cm)
 - Nancy 2016 (7.5cm)
 - Lyon: petite orthos sur Fourviere (2016, 1cm), le Parc OL à Lyon
 (2016, 8cm) et St Fons (2018, 2cm), l'ortho à 8cm de 2015 est en cours de
 download.

 Plus anciennes mais à nouveau disponibles:
 - Région PACA 2009-2010

 Tout ça arrive directement dans JOSM...

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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Simon Poole]

I understood John's question very differently.

Essentially as "what are the benefits to our municipality of being
present in detail on OSM" not using the data or even contributing to it,
just as they are not likely to contemplate that for the goog or Here.

My short take on it would be: "because people can find stuff then".

The slightly longer version is that there are likely economic benefits
of many different kinds (traffic control, real estate, marketing and so
on) that are difficult to quantify but are likely there.

Simon


Am 03.01.2019 um 22:33 schrieb Martijn van Exel:
> John — a fairly new resource is the Welcome
> site, https://welcome.openstreetmap.org/why-openstreetmap/ specifically
> may be interesting to point them to. It’s fairly high level and brief
> in its explanations, but if gives organizations a place to start when
> they’re not familiar with OSM and consider using it or contributing to it.
>
> A common issue I have seen with governments wanting to use OSM data is
> the license, so they should look into that if they intend to use OSM
> data as a replacement / back-fill for any data they may now maintain
> themselves. Often it’s a one-way street: Governments can contribute
> data to OSM but they can’t use OSM data to enrich their own. YMMV,
> this is my experience from talking to governments in the U.S.
>
> Martijn
>
>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:07 PM, John Whelan > > wrote:
>>
>> I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was
>> passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government
>> point of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having
>> their municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.
>>
>> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they
>> are located without payment and list their web sites and phone
>> numbers etc.
>>
>> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
>>
>> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify
>> some expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Yosem Companys]

How well do ArcGIS and OSM talk to each other? I have a client who has
opted for ArcGIS because his institution provides it for free. But I've
always thought of OSM as the better option. Should my client use OSM
instead, especially given that he wants to crowdsource data?

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:35 PM Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> John — a fairly new resource is the Welcome site,
> https://welcome.openstreetmap.org/why-openstreetmap/ specifically may be
> interesting to point them to. It’s fairly high level and brief in its
> explanations, but if gives organizations a place to start when they’re not
> familiar with OSM and consider using it or contributing to it.
>
> A common issue I have seen with governments wanting to use OSM data is the
> license, so they should look into that if they intend to use OSM data as a
> replacement / back-fill for any data they may now maintain themselves.
> Often it’s a one-way street: Governments can contribute data to OSM but
> they can’t use OSM data to enrich their own. YMMV, this is my experience
> from talking to governments in the U.S.
>
> Martijn
>
> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:07 PM, John Whelan  wrote:
>
> I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was
> passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government point
> of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having their
> municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.
>
> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are
> located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.
>
> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
>
> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify some
> expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[Vincent Privat]

Hello,
Vu que le nombre de sources augmente beaucoup je prévois de ranger bientôt
tout ce qui n'est pas catégorisé "photo" dans des sous-menus adéquats:

   - map a map
   - historicmap historic or otherwise outdated map
   - osmbasedmap map based on OSM data
   - historicphoto historic or otherwise outdated aerial or satellite photo
   - other any other type

cf. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/16301#comment:23

A+
Vincent

Le jeu. 3 janv. 2019 à 17:21, marc marc  a
écrit :

> Le 03.01.19 à 16:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :
> >> Le 3 janv. 2019 à 10:08, Antoine Riche a écrit :
> >> ces fonds apparaissent par défaut dans le menu Imagerie.
>
> > Quele est la nuisance réelle ?
>
> extrapolons dans 10 ans : 200 rendu dans différents langues,
> le menu josm doit contenir par défaut 200 rendu différent et tampi
> celui celui qui voulait utiliser le menu imagerie pour... une imagerie ?
> cela me semble une nuisance évidente pour tous :)
> à tout le moins un sous-menu serra à terme nécessaire.
> En passant on notera que les autres rendus alternatif ne sont pas par
> permanent dans le menu, il faut les activer dans les préférences.
>
> > Ne serait-il pas plus logique de faire l’inverse et de mettre en
> > arrière-plan des imageries très peu utilisées ?
>
> quand tu vas dans le menu imagerie de josm, c'est pour choisir
> une imagerie. la liste comprend rarement 10 entrées.
> je ne comprendre pas où voudrais-tu qu'elles aillent "en arrière plan"
>
> > Subsidiairement, les promoteurs des langues régionales en ont assez de
> > se faire expliquer que leurs demandes/besoins doivent toujours passer
> après.
>
> J'utilise parfois l'un ou l'autre rendu alternatif, je trouve qu'il y a
> rien de choquant à devoir faire un unique clic pour l'avoir dans le menu
> imagerie.
> de manière plus constructive, peux-être est-il opportun de suggérer
> à josm de tenir compte de la locale du pc où il tourne.
> celui qui a un pc en local breton aurait le rendu en breton "par défaut"
> et le reste de la planète tournera comme avant.
> les rendus autre que celui par défaut pourraient alors se trouver
> dans un sous-menu dont je parlais ci-dessus.
>
> On pourrait suggérer la même chose pour la couche imagerie "best" :
> généralement c'est celle là que les gens vont activer en premier.
> un sous-menu pourrait contenir les autres (couche + ancienne,
> fournisseur alternatif, cadastre, etc)
>
> Cordialement,
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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[Martijn van Exel]

John — a fairly new resource is the Welcome site, 
https://welcome.openstreetmap.org/why-openstreetmap/ 
 specifically may be 
interesting to point them to. It’s fairly high level and brief in its 
explanations, but if gives organizations a place to start when they’re not 
familiar with OSM and consider using it or contributing to it.

A common issue I have seen with governments wanting to use OSM data is the 
license, so they should look into that if they intend to use OSM data as a 
replacement / back-fill for any data they may now maintain themselves. Often 
it’s a one-way street: Governments can contribute data to OSM but they can’t 
use OSM data to enrich their own. YMMV, this is my experience from talking to 
governments in the U.S.

Martijn

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:07 PM, John Whelan  wrote:
> 
> I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was passed 
> my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government point of view 
> was there any advantage to the municipality in having their municipality 
> mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap. 
> 
> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are 
> located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.
> 
> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
> 
> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify some 
> expenditure and effort to  help enrich the map.
> 
> Thanks John
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-ar] Edificios en Buenos Aires

[Werner Horsch]

por edificio no y menos en el interior del país, si por cuadra, pero hay q
controlarla ya que no siempre es confiable

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 4:06 PM Andrew Wiseman 
wrote:

> Muchas gracias por las sugerencias. ¿Hay datos abiertos para las
> direcciones que están disponibles para OSM?
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 |
> andrew_wise...@apple.com
>
> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Ignacio  wrote:
>
> Si se completa la dirección (addr:street y addr:housenumber) a cada
> edificio sería igual o más útil que las interpolaciones.
>
> El vie., 28 de dic. de 2018 a la(s) 10:53, Fernando Toledo (
> ftol...@docksud.com.ar) escribió:
>
>> El 27/12/18 a las 18:55, Werner Horsch escribió:
>> > Me parece poco relevante esa información, esa capacidad de recursos la
>> > usaría para algo más productivo como
>> > Agregar numeración
>>
>> +1 a la numeración
>>
>> > Correcciones de la base de datos
>> > etc
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[James]

community data hacking like the maps from bike ottawa(maps.bikeottawa.ca)

On Thu., Jan. 3, 2019, 4:10 p.m. John Whelan  I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was
> passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government point
> of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having their
> municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.
>
> Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are
> located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.
>
> Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?
>
> It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify some
> expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.
>
> Thanks John
>
>
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[OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

[John Whelan]

I got a phone call from someone who works for a municipality who was 
passed my phone number.  Basically asking from a municipal government 
point of view was there any advantage to the municipality in having 
their municipality mapped in detail in OpenStreetMap.


Off the top of my head businesses etc can provide map of where they are 
located without payment and list their web sites and phone numbers etc.


Is there a web page somewhere that covers this?

It is quite a serious question and I suspect will be used to justify 
some expenditure and effort to help enrich the map.


Thanks John


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Re: [Talk-es] Trabajo Final de Grado OSM - accesibilidad

[Carlos Guallart]

Muchas gracias.
Lo leeré con mucho interés.
Feliz año

El jue., 3 ene. 2019 a las 21:41, yo paseopor ()
escribió:

> Yo no voy a poder participar en las jornadas...pero algún tipo de
> presentación sobre accesibilidad con el tema Granada,
> Zaragoza,Badalona...podría ser muy interesante, ¿no creéis? Nacho, te animo
> a que tires adelante ;)
>
> salut i mapes
> yopaseopor
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:45 PM ignacio orte sierra <
> nacho_orte_sie...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hola,
>> en el curso pasado realicé mi Trabajo Final de Grado, dirigido por Miguel
>> Sevilla: "Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria:
>> Accesibilidad en Las Fuentes". Recientemente la Universidad de Zaragoza lo
>> ha colgado en su plataforma, dónde lo podéis consultar:
>> https://deposita.unizar.es/record/43510
>> Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria: Accesibilidad en
>> Las Fuentes. - Trabajos fin de estudios - Deposito Administrativo
>> Universidad de Zaragoza 
>> La accesibilidad en la red de movilidad peatonal urbana supone un reto
>> para las personas con diversidad funcional, tanto sillas de ruedas como
>> invidentes. El distrito municipal de Las Fuentes, Zaragoza (España),
>> presenta un contexto demográfico envejecido y un marco urbanístico
>> susceptible de ser inaccesible. Los avances tecnológicos y la Información
>> Geográfica Voluntaria (IGV) permiten la implementación de una base de datos
>> abierta con información relativa a la accesibilidad. Sobre esta base,
>> OpenStreetMap (OSM), se ha realizado un análisis de red para diagnosticar
>> la vialidad de las aceras y los pasos de peatones, mostrando el mayor coste
>> de desplazamiento para las PDF, en especial las invidentes, frente a los
>> peatones a pie. Orte Sierra, Ignacio; Sevilla Callejo, Miguel
>> deposita.unizar.es
>> En trabajo se centra en el uso de OSM para analizar la accesibilidad de
>> personas con movilidad reducida (invidentes y sillas de ruedas). Hay que
>> destacar al grupo de Mapeado Colaborativo por su apoyo, sin el que hubiese
>> sido imposible realizarlo.
>>
>> He visto que se está planteando llevar alguna charla o actividad a las
>> Jornadas de SIG Libre de Girona, espero asistir como público o si hace
>> falta ayudando en la actividad. ¡Nos vemos en Girona!
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Nacho
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Re: [Talk-es] Trabajo Final de Grado OSM - accesibilidad

[yo paseopor]

Yo no voy a poder participar en las jornadas...pero algún tipo de
presentación sobre accesibilidad con el tema Granada,
Zaragoza,Badalona...podría ser muy interesante, ¿no creéis? Nacho, te animo
a que tires adelante ;)

salut i mapes
yopaseopor

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:45 PM ignacio orte sierra <
nacho_orte_sie...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hola,
> en el curso pasado realicé mi Trabajo Final de Grado, dirigido por Miguel
> Sevilla: "Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria:
> Accesibilidad en Las Fuentes". Recientemente la Universidad de Zaragoza lo
> ha colgado en su plataforma, dónde lo podéis consultar:
> https://deposita.unizar.es/record/43510
> Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria: Accesibilidad en Las
> Fuentes. - Trabajos fin de estudios - Deposito Administrativo Universidad
> de Zaragoza 
> La accesibilidad en la red de movilidad peatonal urbana supone un reto
> para las personas con diversidad funcional, tanto sillas de ruedas como
> invidentes. El distrito municipal de Las Fuentes, Zaragoza (España),
> presenta un contexto demográfico envejecido y un marco urbanístico
> susceptible de ser inaccesible. Los avances tecnológicos y la Información
> Geográfica Voluntaria (IGV) permiten la implementación de una base de datos
> abierta con información relativa a la accesibilidad. Sobre esta base,
> OpenStreetMap (OSM), se ha realizado un análisis de red para diagnosticar
> la vialidad de las aceras y los pasos de peatones, mostrando el mayor coste
> de desplazamiento para las PDF, en especial las invidentes, frente a los
> peatones a pie. Orte Sierra, Ignacio; Sevilla Callejo, Miguel
> deposita.unizar.es
> En trabajo se centra en el uso de OSM para analizar la accesibilidad de
> personas con movilidad reducida (invidentes y sillas de ruedas). Hay que
> destacar al grupo de Mapeado Colaborativo por su apoyo, sin el que hubiese
> sido imposible realizarlo.
>
> He visto que se está planteando llevar alguna charla o actividad a las
> Jornadas de SIG Libre de Girona, espero asistir como público o si hace
> falta ayudando en la actividad. ¡Nos vemos en Girona!
>
> Saludos,
> Nacho
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[Talk-es] Trabajo Final de Grado OSM - accesibilidad

[ignacio orte sierra]

Hola,
en el curso pasado realicé mi Trabajo Final de Grado, dirigido por Miguel 
Sevilla: "Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria: Accesibilidad 
en Las Fuentes". Recientemente la Universidad de Zaragoza lo ha colgado en su 
plataforma, dónde lo podéis consultar: https://deposita.unizar.es/record/43510
Movilidad urbana e Información Geográfica Voluntaria: Accesibilidad en Las 
Fuentes. - Trabajos fin de estudios - Deposito Administrativo Universidad de 
Zaragoza
La accesibilidad en la red de movilidad peatonal urbana supone un reto para las 
personas con diversidad funcional, tanto sillas de ruedas como invidentes. El 
distrito municipal de Las Fuentes, Zaragoza (España), presenta un contexto 
demográfico envejecido y un marco urbanístico susceptible de ser inaccesible. 
Los avances tecnológicos y la Información Geográfica Voluntaria (IGV) permiten 
la implementación de una base de datos abierta con información relativa a la 
accesibilidad. Sobre esta base, OpenStreetMap (OSM), se ha realizado un 
análisis de red para diagnosticar la vialidad de las aceras y los pasos de 
peatones, mostrando el mayor coste de desplazamiento para las PDF, en especial 
las invidentes, frente a los peatones a pie. Orte Sierra, Ignacio; Sevilla 
Callejo, Miguel
deposita.unizar.es

En trabajo se centra en el uso de OSM para analizar la accesibilidad de 
personas con movilidad reducida (invidentes y sillas de ruedas). Hay que 
destacar al grupo de Mapeado Colaborativo por su apoyo, sin el que hubiese sido 
imposible realizarlo.

He visto que se está planteando llevar alguna charla o actividad a las Jornadas 
de SIG Libre de Girona, espero asistir como público o si hace falta ayudando en 
la actividad. ¡Nos vemos en Girona!

Saludos,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

[Brian Tuffy]

Hey all,
I just wanted to add a few things although I am not that active on OSM
these days.
The National Monuments Service seems to have open data available that
includes ringforts and similar structures. I am not sure about the
licence compatibility and mass importing and all that This could be a
way to get the majority of ringforts into OSM considering the large
number of forts. Also, the naming schemes they use are somewhat
official, I suppose, and should guide OSM tagging schemes to
distinguish different types of forts (distinguishing between cashels,
earthworks, and raths), but I am not sure how that translates into OSM
tagging. To be honest, importing this data is a massive job if you
also want to consider the other archaeological structures, but in OSM
features are supposed to be visible landmarks.
https://data.gov.ie/dataset/national-monuments-service-archaeological-survey-of-ireland
Here's an extract of that data:
Enclosure
Children's burial ground
Enclosure
Castle - unclassified
Bee-boles
Gateway (present location)
Earthwork
Castle - unclassified
Mound
Enclosure
Enclosure
Ringfort - cashel
Ringfort - cashel
Children's burial ground
Ritual site - holy well
Standing stone
Earthwork
Castle - tower house

What are Bee-boles anyway?  Ahhh
(https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Bee_bole)...sorry.
Anyway, I agree with the tagging scheme in Colm's email for generic
ringforts that an OSM user might want to add. I think it is best to
not worry about distinguishing ringforts too much at this early stage.

Brian T

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:52 PM Colm Moore  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Any update on how folk are progressing with this?
>
> Rory and I spent some time going through them and earthworks=rath is no more. 
> However, perhaps only 5% of ring forts are mapped. I find the split between 
> ring fort, hill fort and ring ditch seems to be somewhat nebulous, so mapping 
> the difference can be difficult.
>
> The correct tagging appears to be:
> * fortification_type=ringfort
> * historic=archaeological_site
> * site_type=fortification
> * historic:civilization=celtic <-- I've added this, Rory hasn't
>
> > earthworks=rath< 1248 instances - Clare and Kerry only
> > fortification_type=hill_fort   < confused use - multiple different fort 
> > types
> > historic=fort  < confused use - multiple different fort types
> > fortification=ring_ditch  < minor
> > hillfort  < minor
> > historic=hillfort  < minor
> > historic=ring fort  < minor
> > military=fort  < minor
> > note=Ancient fort  < minor
> > note=Fort  < minor
> > note=Ring Fort?  < minor
> > ruins=fort  < minor
> > site_type=earthwork  < minor
> > site_type=enclosure  < minor
>
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Re: [Talk-ar] Edificios en Buenos Aires

[Andrew Wiseman]

Muchas gracias por las sugerencias. ¿Hay datos abiertos para las direcciones 
que están disponibles para OSM?

Andrew

Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 | andrew_wise...@apple.com 


> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Ignacio  wrote:
> 
> Si se completa la dirección (addr:street y addr:housenumber) a cada edificio 
> sería igual o más útil que las interpolaciones.
> 
> El vie., 28 de dic. de 2018 a la(s) 10:53, Fernando Toledo 
> (ftol...@docksud.com.ar ) escribió:
> El 27/12/18 a las 18:55, Werner Horsch escribió:
> > Me parece poco relevante esa información, esa capacidad de recursos la
> > usaría para algo más productivo como
> > Agregar numeración
> 
> +1 a la numeración
> 
> > Correcciones de la base de datos
> > etc
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Dock Sud BBS
> http://bbs.docksud.com.ar 
> telnet://bbs.docksud.com.ar 
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] January meeting

[Ian Caldwell]

The bull is closed

Ian

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, 11:29 Rob Nickerson  See you all there :-) I will bring the new hi Vis vest for you to see.
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, 11:09 Brian Prangle 
>> Me too!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> January 3rd is the first Thursday of the month so OSM meetup time.
>>> Anyone able to make it given proximity to the holiday?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Rob
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Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[Tobias]

Man kann sicher eine menge von den fragen anderer lernen

  Originalnachricht  
Von: Pierre Goldenbogen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2019 17:41
An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org
Antwort an: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch
Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht


Da der Anmeldeschluss in zwei Tagen ist, benötige ich auch eine
kurzfriste Zusage.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linux-Tage_2019


Macht es Sinn, als totaler Anfänger mit zu machen? Ich mappe aktiv
jetzt seit drei Wochen...

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Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

On 03.01.19 13:37, André Riedel wrote:

Hallo,

für die diesjährigen Chemnitzer Linux-Tage suchen wir noch
Mitstreiter, welche uns am OpenStreetMap-Stand unterstützen. Diese
finden am 16. und 17. März statt. Weitere Informationen findet ihr im
Wiki.



Schade dass sich das am 16. mit der FOSSGIS in Dresden überschneidet.


Ich überlege gerade für den 17. noch einen Abstecher für den Rückweg
aus Dresden einzuplanen, wirklich festlegen kann ich mich da aber
noch nicht ...

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Re: [Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[Pierre Goldenbogen]

> Da der Anmeldeschluss in zwei Tagen ist, benötige ich auch eine
> kurzfriste Zusage.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linux-Tage_2019

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jetzt seit drei Wochen...

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[marc marc]

Le 03.01.19 à 16:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :
>> Le 3 janv. 2019 à 10:08, Antoine Riche a écrit :
>> ces fonds apparaissent par défaut dans le menu Imagerie.

> Quele est la nuisance réelle ?

extrapolons dans 10 ans : 200 rendu dans différents langues,
le menu josm doit contenir par défaut 200 rendu différent et tampi
celui celui qui voulait utiliser le menu imagerie pour... une imagerie ?
cela me semble une nuisance évidente pour tous :)
à tout le moins un sous-menu serra à terme nécessaire.
En passant on notera que les autres rendus alternatif ne sont pas par 
permanent dans le menu, il faut les activer dans les préférences.

> Ne serait-il pas plus logique de faire l’inverse et de mettre en 
> arrière-plan des imageries très peu utilisées ?

quand tu vas dans le menu imagerie de josm, c'est pour choisir
une imagerie. la liste comprend rarement 10 entrées.
je ne comprendre pas où voudrais-tu qu'elles aillent "en arrière plan"

> Subsidiairement, les promoteurs des langues régionales en ont assez de 
> se faire expliquer que leurs demandes/besoins doivent toujours passer après.

J'utilise parfois l'un ou l'autre rendu alternatif, je trouve qu'il y a 
rien de choquant à devoir faire un unique clic pour l'avoir dans le menu 
imagerie.
de manière plus constructive, peux-être est-il opportun de suggérer
à josm de tenir compte de la locale du pc où il tourne.
celui qui a un pc en local breton aurait le rendu en breton "par défaut"
et le reste de la planète tournera comme avant.
les rendus autre que celui par défaut pourraient alors se trouver
dans un sous-menu dont je parlais ci-dessus.

On pourrait suggérer la même chose pour la couche imagerie "best" :
généralement c'est celle là que les gens vont activer en premier.
un sous-menu pourrait contenir les autres (couche + ancienne, 
fournisseur alternatif, cadastre, etc)

Cordialement,
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[Christian Rogel]

> Le 3 janv. 2019 à 10:08, Antoine Riche  a écrit :
> 
> Du coup ces fonds apparaissent par défaut dans le menu Imagerie. Sans vouloir 
> offenser les adeptes des langues régionales ce n'est peut⁻être pas judicieux 
> (la liste d'imagerie peut être très longue). Apparemment cela est dû à la 
> propriété default, que seuls les administrateurs du Wiki JOSM peuvent 
> modifier :https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps 
> . Vincent tu peux modifier ?
> 
> 
Quele est la nuisance réelle ?

La liste d’imagerie comporte une quantité d’items qui ne sont utilisés que par 
un nombre réduit de mappeurs, alors que les tuiles dont nous parlons sont 
destinées à un public beaucoup plus vaste.

Pour ne citer que cet exemple, l’Institut d’études occitanes (2 300 membres) 
est en train d’initier un certain nombre de ses correspondants sur 11 
départements pour l’utilisation et la démocratisation d’OSM. Et ilsne sont pas 
les seuls sur le créneau. On peut aussi mentionner que les 43 000 name en 
breton standard ont été créés à partir de 1 000 comptes différents.

Ne serait-il pas plus logique de faire l’inverse et de mettre en arrière-plan 
des imageries très peu utilisées ?

Subsidiairement, les promoteurs des langues régionales en ont assez de se faire 
expliquer que leurs demandes/besoins doivent toujours passer après.


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Re: [Talk-is] Data improvements in Iceland

[Matt Riggott]

Hi Andrew,

This is good news. I work for Já (based in Reykjavík) and we also have an 
interest in improving OpenStreetMap data in Iceland, although our changes have 
been ad hoc rather than structured.

The OSM data we've used so far has focused on the road network and building 
geometries. As you say, from this perspective the data is mostly complete, but 
there are some things that could be fixed. Roughly, if we split the country 
into three parts we have Reykjavík and its surrounding municipalities, the 
rural areas and smaller towns that ring the coast, and the uninhabited central 
highlands. The data for Reykjavík is generally excellent, so I would think it's 
the rural/uninhabited areas where most improvements could be made. (Even this 
data is very good though.)

One example we've seen in the small towns and rural areas are misaligned roads. 
They might only be a few metres from their real position, but when you have 
parallel roads in close proximity to one another this can cause GPS coordinates 
to place you on the wrong road. Likewise with misaligned or inaccurate building 
outlines — important to us since we use them to decide which points along the 
road network are visible from a given location.

Then there's the central highlands. The gravel road network here is only 
accessible during the summer and many roads require a four-wheel drive if 
you're driving. I haven't looked much into the data here, but I have an inkling 
that very useful improvements could be made — surface tags especially, but also 
additional routes, accessibility, and road numbers. I'd love to see more detail 
added here.

As for external data, up-to-date imports from the Staðfangaskrá and LUKR 
datasets would be great. The latter is the land information system for 
Reykjavík and surrounding municipalities, and it's extraordinarily detailed 
(down to the road markings painted on roads). Both datasets were imported into 
OSM a long time ago and I don't think they've been revisited since.

I've tried and failed to keep this short, but if you want more information 
please get in touch via email or on this list.

M.

PS. While you're here, there's an error in the Reykjavík coastline in Apple 
Maps that's always irritated me. Compare these:

- https://maps.apple.com/?ll=64.1509,-21.9142
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/64.1509/-21.9142

> On 23 Dec 2018, at 02:52, Andrew Wiseman   wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’m Andrew with Apple’s Maps team. We’re interested in doing some a few 
> improvements to the OSM data in Iceland, specifically adding some missing 
> buildings, making road network fixes like adding missing roads, making sure 
> intersections are correct, and the like, and some coastline fixes. It looks 
> like the data is mostly complete but I wanted to see if you had any 
> suggestions for places where things might be out of date or inaccurate, or 
> other suggestions or feedback. I also saw that some addresses had been 
> imported from a government dataset 
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Staðfangaskrá_Import), is that still 
> going on?
> 
> Here’s more information about our project: 
> https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/134
> 
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback. Also if there is a 
> forum, Telegram or WhatsApp group the community uses, I’d be happy to join 
> and talk there.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Andrew

-- 
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Programmer / Forritari

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[talk-ph] Review of GlobalLogic edits in the Philippines

[Ian Lopez]

Hello and happy New Year to all.

In the wake of issues between OpenStreetMap contributors in Thailand and 
editors from GlobalLogic [1] I've decided to review a selection of edits in the 
Philippines done by the GlobalLogic team over the past 12 months.

As soon as I started my review, I immediately spotted at least one iffy 
changeset [2] which deleted all roads in Carnasa/Carnaza Island in northern 
Cebu. The said changeset was reverted afterwards [3]. In addition, I saw a bad 
practice, which is deleting and re-creating a feature, as what happened to the 
area around the Magellan Shrine in Lapu-Lapu City [4]. However, not all edits 
are destructive as new roads were added in places such as Pampanga [5]

>From what I've seen so far, there is a common theme among GlobalLogic edits, 
>such as addition, reclassification and modification of streets. In fact, most 
>of the edits revolve around highway data.

For those interested in reviewing the edits made by the GlobalLogic team, I 
left a link at the bottom of this email [6].

[1] as documented in 
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/client/snv?noteGuid=9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635¬eKey=048c3a2daac0289b=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635/048c3a2daac0289b=Response%2Bto%2BGrab%2527s%2BResponse%2Bon%2BOSM
[2] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65332385, visualization at 
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65332385
[3] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65913856, visualization at 
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65913856. Prior to the deletion, an 
editor from the GlobalLogic team added roads in the island 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64226169, visualization at 
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=64226169)
[4] see 
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=59139193=18=10.31114=124.01558=B00TTTFT
 for visualization
[5] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62328028, visualization at 
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=62328028[6] see 
https://osmcha.mapbox.com/filters?aoi=ffa1c52a-9020-4bd1-8d20-6cbb70bcd5be, URL 
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[Talk-transit] New Key "Interval"

[Noémie Lehuby]

Hi,

Before we move on to the next proprosal, can you please also update the
according pages in the wiki in English so we can start translating the
doc about this new tag ?

I think we need to mention the new key in these pages at least:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Tags
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route_master#Other_useful_tags
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry#Tags_to_use_in_combination
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dbus
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses#Step_2_-_Create_the_new_bus_relations
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dsubway
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dtram
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dtrain#How_to_tag_a_train_relation_.3F

nlehuby

> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:49:08 -0500
> From: Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com>
> To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-transit] New Key "Departures"
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> The new key "interval" for adding the departure times interval of a public
> transport route was recently approved after two weeks of voting.
> I have created a new wiki page to document this key:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:interval
> 
> Full schedule information, however, is still impossible.  I originally
> proposed using "timetable relations" to add full schedule information to
> routes.  I have since realized that this would be a disaster just waiting
> to happen.
> I have now simplified the proposal to be easier to add and maintain, while
> still keeping most of the same information in the database.
> 
> The key "departures" is my solution to keeping timetables simple and easy
> to maintain.
> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures
> 
> I would love feedback to help make this proposal work for everyone.  I
> know that for many bus routes, it would be impossibly difficult to add (and
> maintain) full schedule information.  Those routes should therefore only
> include the tag "interval".  Others, however, including many ferry routes,
> would be very easy to add schedule information to.
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

[Colm Moore]

Hi,

> Any update on how folk are progressing with this?

Rory and I spent some time going through them and earthworks=rath is no more. 
However, perhaps only 5% of ring forts are mapped. I find the split between 
ring fort, hill fort and ring ditch seems to be somewhat nebulous, so mapping 
the difference can be difficult.

The correct tagging appears to be:
* fortification_type=ringfort
* historic=archaeological_site
* site_type=fortification
* historic:civilization=celtic <-- I've added this, Rory hasn't

> earthworks=rath< 1248 instances - Clare and Kerry only
> fortification_type=hill_fort   < confused use - multiple different fort 
> types
> historic=fort  < confused use - multiple different fort types
> fortification=ring_ditch  < minor
> hillfort  < minor
> historic=hillfort  < minor
> historic=ring fort  < minor
> military=fort  < minor
> note=Ancient fort  < minor
> note=Fort  < minor
> note=Ring Fort?  < minor
> ruins=fort  < minor
> site_type=earthwork  < minor
> site_type=enclosure  < minor

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[Talk-de] Mitbetreuer für die Chemnitzer Linux-Tage gesucht

[André Riedel]

Hallo,

für die diesjährigen Chemnitzer Linux-Tage suchen wir noch
Mitstreiter, welche uns am OpenStreetMap-Stand unterstützen. Diese
finden am 16. und 17. März statt. Weitere Informationen findet ihr im
Wiki.

Da der Anmeldeschluss in zwei Tagen ist, benötige ich auch eine
kurzfriste Zusage.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linux-Tage_2019

Mit besten Grüßen
André

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Re: [talk-cz] Spolek OSM CZ zapsan

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj,

jo s Fiem zatim pocitame, v podminkach zakladani uctu jsou sice mozna
nejakekomplikace ale dneska-zitra se tam chci stavit a vyjasnit si to
s nima osobne.

Bye

čt 3. 1. 2019 v 10:58 odesílatel majka  napsal:
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Tom Ka  wrote:
>>
>> V behu jsou obe domeny, dale muzu zacit resit i banku at se muzou
>> resit clenske prispevky na 2019 i novi clenove.
>
> Z mého pohledu navrhuji Fio, a to nejen kvůli tomu, že tam taky mám účet. Ale 
> mají zdarma i možnost transparentních účtů, což by bylo pro spolek asi 
> ideální...
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Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz a OSM data v CZ (a jinde)

[majka]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 09:38,  wrote:

> Seznam zastávek nebo lamp téměř určitě autorské dílo není. (Ostatně,
> databáze OSM dost možná také ne, a přesto si hrajeme na ODbL.) Ale vedle
> autorských práv existuje také (sui generis) zvláštní právo pořizovatele
> databáze (hlava III AutZ), které chrání jakékoli systematicky uspořádané
> soubory dat, pokud to pořízení představuje „kvalitativně nebo kvantitativně
> podstatný vklad“.
>

Tohle je mi jasné, ale trochu nechápu, logiku věci: Dávám to výslovně k
dispozici jako otevřená data, informace samy o sobě chráněné nejsou, a ten
soubor "otevřených dat" chráněný je z jakého důvodu?
Na druhé straně zase nejsem tak naivní, abych se pokoušela selský rozum
aplikovat na právo a paragrafy...

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Re: [talk-cz] Spolek OSM CZ zapsan

[majka]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Tom Ka  wrote:

> V behu jsou obe domeny, dale muzu zacit resit i banku at se muzou
> resit clenske prispevky na 2019 i novi clenove.
>
Z mého pohledu navrhuji Fio, a to nejen kvůli tomu, že tam taky mám účet.
Ale mají zdarma i možnost transparentních účtů
, což
by bylo pro spolek asi ideální...
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] building parts et rendu

[Florian LAINEZ]

au temps pour moi, j'ai corrigé cela.
merci antoine.

Le jeu. 3 janv. 2019 à 10:20, Antoine Riche  a
écrit :

> Tout est là : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bâtiments_3D_simples
>
> La relation doit être de type=building, et contenir un élément (way fermé
> ou multipolygone) building=* qui définit son contour.
>
> Antoine.
> Le 03/01/2019 à 10:07, Florian LAINEZ a écrit :
>
> Hello,
> J'ai regroupé dans une relation (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8530478) plusieurs bouts d'un même
> bâtiment ayant chacun un nombre d'étages différents.
> J'ai précisé dans la relation building=office mais celui-ci n’apparaît pas
> sur le rendu.
> Ai-je loupé quelque chose ou bien est-ce une limitation (très pénible) du
> rendu mapnik ?
>
> PS : les différentes parties du bâtiment sont bien rendues dans Maps.Me,
> bien que le nombre d'étage minimum ne soit pas pris en compte.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] building parts et rendu

[Antoine Riche]

Tout est là : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bâtiments_3D_simples

La relation doit être de type=building, et contenir un élément (way 
fermé ou multipolygone) building=* qui définit son contour.


Antoine.

Le 03/01/2019 à 10:07, Florian LAINEZ a écrit :

Hello,
J'ai regroupé dans une relation 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8530478) plusieurs bouts d'un 
même bâtiment ayant chacun un nombre d'étages différents.
J'ai précisé dans la relation building=office mais celui-ci n’apparaît 
pas sur le rendu.
Ai-je loupé quelque chose ou bien est-ce une limitation (très pénible) 
du rendu mapnik ?


PS : les différentes parties du bâtiment sont bien rendues dans 
Maps.Me, bien que le nombre d'étage minimum ne soit pas pris en compte.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[Antoine Riche]

Du coup ces fonds apparaissent par défaut dans le menu Imagerie. Sans 
vouloir offenser les adeptes des langues régionales ce n'est peut⁻être 
pas judicieux (la liste d'imagerie peut être très longue). Apparemment 
cela est dû à la propriété default, que seuls les administrateurs du 
Wiki JOSM peuvent modifier : https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps. 
Vincent tu peux modifier ?


Antoine.

Le 30/12/2018 à 21:56, Vincent Privat a écrit :

Et maintenant dans JOSM :)
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/France

Le mer. 19 déc. 2018 à 19:48, Christian Quest > a écrit :


Ces trois fonds sont désormais aussi sur
https://tile.openstreetmap.fr/ :)

Le mar. 18 déc. 2018 à 00:16, Christian Quest
mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :

Je me met au prédictif ;)

Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 23:20, Maël REBOUX
 a écrit :

Ha ben ça c’est cool. Merci.

J’avais mis ça sur ma liste de choses à faire pendant les
congés. Je peux rayer ;)



Le 16 déc. 2018 à 19:20, Christian Quest
mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :

J'ai ajouté ces trois rendus dans ceux connus d'uMap...
plus besoin de bricoler les URL ;)

Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 15:51, Vincent Bergeot
mailto:vinc...@bergeot.org>> a écrit :

Bonjour,

merci pour ces tuiles

Le 13/12/2018 à 21:40, Maël REBOUX a écrit :

[..]



Les url des services de tuiles (au format TMS) sont
les suivants :

 *
breton (br) :
https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/br/{z}/{x}/{y}.png


 *
occitan (oc) :
https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/oc/{z}/{x}/{y}.png


 *
basque (eu) :
https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/eu/{z}/{x}/{y}.png







Umap permet d'ajouter un services de tuiles
personnalisé, à priori du même format que ce que vous
proposez !

Mais je n'arrive pas à le faire marcher ! Bon en même
temps, je comprends pas tout à ces questions :)

Bonne journée

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[OSM-talk-fr] building parts et rendu

[Florian LAINEZ]

Hello,
J'ai regroupé dans une relation (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8530478) plusieurs bouts d'un même
bâtiment ayant chacun un nombre d'étages différents.
J'ai précisé dans la relation building=office mais celui-ci n’apparaît pas
sur le rendu.
Ai-je loupé quelque chose ou bien est-ce une limitation (très pénible) du
rendu mapnik ?

PS : les différentes parties du bâtiment sont bien rendues dans Maps.Me,
bien que le nombre d'étage minimum ne soit pas pris en compte.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Après la carte en breton : voici les cartes en occitan et en basque

[Florian LAINEZ]

bravo ! ça montre que les toulousains occitans se sont motivés mais pas
vraiment les grandes villes alentours :P

Le dim. 30 déc. 2018 à 21:56, Vincent Privat  a
écrit :

> Et maintenant dans JOSM :)
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/France
>
> Le mer. 19 déc. 2018 à 19:48, Christian Quest  a
> écrit :
>
>> Ces trois fonds sont désormais aussi sur https://tile.openstreetmap.fr/
>> :)
>>
>> Le mar. 18 déc. 2018 à 00:16, Christian Quest 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Je me met au prédictif ;)
>>>
>>> Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 23:20, Maël REBOUX  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Ha ben ça c’est cool. Merci.

 J’avais mis ça sur ma liste de choses à faire pendant les congés. Je
 peux rayer ;)


 Le 16 déc. 2018 à 19:20, Christian Quest  a
 écrit :

 J'ai ajouté ces trois rendus dans ceux connus d'uMap... plus besoin de
 bricoler les URL ;)

 Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 15:51, Vincent Bergeot  a
 écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> merci pour ces tuiles
> Le 13/12/2018 à 21:40, Maël REBOUX a écrit :
>
> [..]
>
> Les url des services de tuiles (au format TMS) sont les suivants :
>
>- breton (br) : https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/br/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
>- occitan (oc) : https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/oc/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
>- basque (eu) : https://tile.openstreetmap.bzh/eu/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
>
>
>
>
> Umap permet d'ajouter un services de tuiles personnalisé, à priori du
> même format que ce que vous proposez !
>
> Mais je n'arrive pas à le faire marcher ! Bon en même temps, je
> comprends pas tout à ces questions :)
>
> Bonne journée
>
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Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz a OSM data v CZ (a jinde)

[petr . kadlec]

Ahoj,

On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 1:09 PM majka  wrote:

> Ohledně jednání k otevřeným datům: nebylo by řešením, pokud se bude s
> těmihle lidmi jednat, otevřít problém licence jako takové? Tj. to, že
> doporučované licence nejsou pro OSM kompatibilní, a pro "data do mapy"
> potřebujeme licenci jinou? Respektive (pozor, nejsem právník) - nevztahuje
> se na většinu toho, co nás zajímá náhodou tohle
> ?
> Protože si nedovedu představit, že třeba seznam zastávek MHD, kamer nebo
> lamp veřejného osvětlení je autorské dílo
> . Pro ty, co ta otevřená
> data poskytují je určitě jednoduší pro jistotu tu licenci plácnout, než
> zkoumat, jestli jí to vůbec má mít.
>

Seznam zastávek nebo lamp téměř určitě autorské dílo není. (Ostatně,
databáze OSM dost možná také ne, a přesto si hrajeme na ODbL.) Ale vedle
autorských práv existuje také (sui generis) zvláštní právo pořizovatele
databáze (hlava III AutZ), které chrání jakékoli systematicky uspořádané
soubory dat, pokud to pořízení představuje „kvalitativně nebo kvantitativně
podstatný vklad“.

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[OSM-talk-be] Weekly Riot chat digest - Volume 3 - 24/12/2018 - 30/12/2018

[Tim Couwelier]

Hi all.

New edition is up:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=732083#p732083
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[talk-cz] Spolek OSM CZ zapsan

[Tom Ka]

Tak uz jsme v rejstriku:

https://or.justice.cz/ias/ui/rejstrik-firma.vysledky?subjektId=1037162

V behu jsou obe domeny, dale muzu zacit resit i banku at se muzou
resit clenske prispevky na 2019 i novi clenove.

Bye tom.k

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