[talk-ph] Automatic Building Mapping.
Cool gadgets. Check out the video at the end of the piece. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/automatic-building-mapping-0924.html Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 5125 3392 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
Paul Norman wrote: If you assume wall=no buildings attached to buildings without a wall tag can be combined, I would estimate that the number of ways is at least 1.5x what it needs to be. -1, I'd suggest building=roof for those that are roofs. IMHO it is nice to distinguish them. Why do you think that mappers wouldn't do this as well? If it's different buildings attached to each other they shouldn't be a single blob. In the recent talk@ discussions most mappers who commented on the issue of how they'd normally map the examples given said they'd do it as one building. If we were talking about houses and garages or carports I could see doing it as two, but as indicated above, these aren't that large. My current practice is to work against 'house number' so I'm slowly splitting semi's and terraces so that each has it's own house number. I'm not making any distinction between single story and two or more story - something which I think the Cadastre data does provide extra detail for but without tags in the raw data - only splitting a property where there is a detached garage or other structure on the same land parcel. Car ports are just part of the one profile and I'm not at the moment mapping 'patio areas' which seem to get attached as buildings without walls? Pavement cafe terraces and the like should be correctly tagged as such. The problem *I* am seeing with the cadastre data I have looked at is that a building is not simply one or two profiles, but several seemingly unrelated elements all strange shapes and not relating to the imagery. Since there is no explanation of the detail my feeling was that these SHOULD all have been combined into a single element in the raw processing until such time as real detail of a difference was available? I'd EVEN be happy with a 'bot' going around the current data and combining adjacent or overlapping buildings into one where there IS no other tagging? This would at least give a better representation of what is known and I believe would substantially reduce the number of building elements? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
2012/9/30 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: The problem *I* am seeing with the cadastre data I have looked at is that a building is not simply one or two profiles, but several seemingly unrelated elements all strange shapes and not relating to the imagery. Since there is no explanation of the detail my feeling was that these SHOULD all have been combined into a single element in the raw processing until such time as real detail of a difference was available? We provided explanations many times... Separate polygons can come from: - different ownership of building parts - different building but same looking roof on the aerials - different building type: porchs, garages, hangar, without wall tagged as wall=no It is not data errors, but much more detailed geometry compared to what you can do by simply surveying or trace on aerials. Some may think its too much details, some don't. I'd EVEN be happy with a 'bot' going around the current data and combining adjacent or overlapping buildings into one where there IS no other tagging? This would at least give a better representation of what is known and I believe would substantially reduce the number of building elements? This would not work in most cases like we explained already several times. Is cities this would make a whole block looking as one building. My own house would be merged with all the neighborhood houses. pnorman wrote: The cadastre imports are more complicated. I'm not aware of any comprehensive studies on the quality of the imports, but I did some analysis[1] previously. Based on this, about 75% of the buildings are building=yes wall=yes and 25% are building=yes with no wall tag. building=* + wall=no should be more in the 25% zone and building=* without wall=* tag in the 75% (we do not use wall=yes). Many wall=no polygons are porch, garages in France usually have walls... and locks ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
Am 30.09.2012 um 03:28 schrieb Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: The distribution of building sizes indicates otherwise. The most common building size in the cadastre imports is a mere 6 square meters (65 square feet). Sorry, of course you are right, I guess I was confused last night ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
2012/9/30 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: We provided explanations many times... Separate polygons can come from: - different ownership of building parts ... It is not data errors, but much more detailed geometry compared to what you can do by simply surveying or trace on aerials. IMHO it is a data error when one building is split up into several buildings because the one building has more than 1 owner, or do you tag the parts as parts and have eventually a method of recombining these parts into one building? As far as I know we do not at all tag owners of objects in OSM. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
From: Vladimir Vyskocil [mailto:vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre The larger part of cadastre data is just dumped into the data base never to be touched again by any mapper. That's also wrong, the french community has developed some very powerful tools like osmose.openstreetmap.fr which is used to automatically discover many errors from cadastre and others, it's used along the import process by many people to locate and fix many bugs, for example here is a search focused on some errors that we seek : Sarah's numbers come from Nominatim and the statistics for France and are based on most of the imported buildings not having other tags added to them. Because I have a pgsnapshot database at home I can do a more detailed analysis to evaluate what percentage of cadastre buildings have been touched since they were uploaded, looking at any change, even the addition or deletion of nodes. There are 28.7 million building=* ways with one of the top 5 cadastre source values on http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values. Of these 17.9 million are version=1. 62.2% of cadastre building ways are never touched again by any mapper. Sarah is correct and the majority of imported buildings are never touched. Aside: Because 18% of the ways in the database are from the French cadastre generating these stats requires a sequential scan of the ways table and really makes me with I had an array of SSDs. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: We provided explanations many times... Separate polygons can come from: - different ownership of building parts ... It is not data errors, but much more detailed geometry compared to what you can do by simply surveying or trace on aerials. IMHO it is a data error when one building is split up into several buildings because the one building has more than 1 owner, or do you tag the parts as parts and have eventually a method of recombining these parts into one building? As far as I know we do not at all tag owners of objects in OSM. I'm happy to split buildings where I have house numbers ... then there is an identifiable difference between the two halves. But I am sorry Christian I simply do not accept that cadastre is producing the detail you claim. NONE of the buildings that I DID waste time tracking back through the Main site were identifiable as separate structures !!! And the facts in the database do not support your claim :( The area identified a couple of days back had small buildings with multiple odd shaped blocks that bare no relation to the imagery and have no additional tagging. It would be easier for a french speaker to get back through the Cadastre site, but when I did manage to get to that area I could see little to identify separate buildings that were being displayed in OSM! Heck, the OS streetview data is cleaner and we decided NOT to import that ... I have no doubt SOME French mappers are using the data as intended, but on the whole I don't think the data does anything to improve OSM :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Community Edit Monitoring vs Worldwide BOT Coverage in Changesets
The Changeset Display for an area (ie. History tab of OpenStreetMap.org) shows all the changesets covering a local area. In this display, we often see Worldwide BOT Changesets even if there is no modifications made to the area,. RSS feeds are producing false alerts, and it is uneasy to find if any changes are made to the local area. We sometimes have to go to hundreds of modifications in the Changeset to verify if the local area is affected. This Worldwide coverage in Changesets limits our capacity to simply monitor changes to the map and OSM conributors have often complain about this. Automated Edits code of conduct [1] and Mechanical Edit Policy [2] wiki pages do not talk about restricting Worldwide BOT Coverage in one Changeset. Searching the discussion lists, I cannot find discussion / propositions to establish rules that limit the coverage. I then propose to add a a rule for Automated / Mechanical Edits so that an individual Changeset do not cover a large area. It could be for example a rule that says no more than a 500km x 500km. Pierre [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Community Edit Monitoring vs Worldwide BOT Coverage in Changesets
Hello Pierre. I think the better way to solve this problem is to make history page show changesets that actually *affect* the area in question, not changesets that*only cover * area. There are some works in this direction, the most recent seems to be http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ . There was OWL which is now down, but is promised to be back. Also, there is an automated filter for RSS history feeds: http://positron96.appspot.com/osmfilter.html - the service can filter out large changesets from rss feed, and give you with filtered feed. Hope it helps. Pavel On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.frwrote: The Changeset Display for an area (ie. History tab of OpenStreetMap.org) shows all the changesets covering a local area. In this display, we often see Worldwide BOT Changesets even if there is no modifications made to the area,. RSS feeds are producing false alerts, and it is uneasy to find if any changes are made to the local area. We sometimes have to go to hundreds of modifications in the Changeset to verify if the local area is affected. This Worldwide coverage in Changesets limits our capacity to simply monitor changes to the map and OSM conributors have often complain about this. Automated Edits code of conduct [1] and Mechanical Edit Policy [2] wiki pages do not talk about restricting Worldwide BOT Coverage in one Changeset. Searching the discussion lists, I cannot find discussion / propositions to establish rules that limit the coverage. I then propose to add a a rule for Automated / Mechanical Edits so that an individual Changeset do not cover a large area. It could be for example a rule that says no more than a 500km x 500km. Pierre [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] User activity stream - progress update
Hi all, Back in August I made some noise on IRC and mailing lists about the activity stream stuff. We had some discussions about technical approach which were very useful to me. Since then I got side tracked with other work, both OSM related and otherwise. However, this weekend I've started implementing what I call OpenStreetMap Activity Server. You can learn more about it from project description on GitHub: https://github.com/ppawel/osm-activity-server/blob/master/README.md The idea is simple enough: applications can publish activities to the Activity Server and the server in turn is able to serve user's activity stream - so Rails Port would retrieve such stream to display it on the user page for example. As for publishing activities, there are a few things I have in mind: 1. Mapping activity - an application would analyze current changesets and publish activities to the Activity Stream so that users see what is going on in their region. In addition, OWL could publish activities for users interested in specific areas (although I have not looked into OWL so not sure if this is feasible). 2. Diary entries - these could get more exposure through the activity stream. 3. Status update activities - hopefully not like Facebook's I just ate a good sandwich but more like Let's go map the forest on Saturday. Well, these are just some ideas anyway... Let me know what you think, feel free to comment on the code (which is in a very early stage obviously) or on the idea in general. PS. Excuse the cross post but I feel this is relevant both to users and developers at this point (e.g. would be nice to hear if users actually want something like this...). Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Of these 17.9 million are version=1. 62.2% of cadastre building ways are never touched again by any mapper. So what? That still doesn't tell you anything. We've already heard descriptions of the process including edits and cleanup before the first commit. You can do lots of spot-checks to find polygons that appear to not match aerial photos and call them liars about *that*, but *these* numbers tell nothing about it one way or the other. Sarah is correct and the majority of imported buildings are never touched. No, it does not tell you they aren't touched. It tells you that they aren't touched after the first commit. If they edited it before the commit, then of course most won't need to be touched again soon! Oh, and the other 12+ million, 38%, almost half, with multiple edits? Yeah, sorry France, you don't get any credit for that. I am so sick and tired of this discussion.All the import-criticizers rant and whine about build the local community. What I'm reading is there's a pretty active community in France, and they like this cadastre import. If you are outside France, shut up and let them do their thing. - Alan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know we do not at all tag owners of objects in OSM. By we, do you mean your local community or all OSM users? If all users, then as far as I know, we tag anything we find useful in OSM. Oh, see also: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/operator -Alan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Community Edit Monitoring vs Worldwide BOT Coverage in Changesets
Thanks Pavel The changesets listed were reduced by half when providing the url http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets?bbox=-73.6318%2C45.409%2C-73.444%2C45.4946 with http://positron96.appspot.com/osmfilter.html. This solution would effectively eliminate an important amount of changesets from the History Report if it was adopted. Therefore, this solution does not cover all the situations. When a worldwide changeset covers partly a local area, it is quite uneasy to detect wich objects were modified in this local area. Especially when the changeset affects hundreds of objects. If changesets were limited to one country (or nearby countries when crossing borders), there would be even less changesets reported in a local area. Changesets would also contain less objects. Both revising the History Report and establishing rule to restrict the coverage area of changesets would facilitate monitoring in a local area. Pierre De : Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr Cc : talk talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 30 septembre 2012 12h29 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Community Edit Monitoring vs Worldwide BOT Coverage in Changesets Hello Pierre. I think the better way to solve this problem is to make history page show changesets that actually affect the area in question, not changesets thatonly cover area. There are some works in this direction, the most recent seems to be http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ . There was OWL which is now down, but is promised to be back. Also, there is an automated filter for RSS history feeds: http://positron96.appspot.com/osmfilter.html - the service can filter out large changesets from rss feed, and give you with filtered feed. Hope it helps. Pavel On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr wrote: The Changeset Display for an area (ie. History tab of OpenStreetMap.org) shows all the changesets covering a local area. In this display, we often see Worldwide BOT Changesets even if there is no modifications made to the area,. RSS feeds are producing false alerts, and it is uneasy to find if any changes are made to the local area. We sometimes have to go to hundreds of modifications in the Changeset to verify if the local area is affected. This Worldwide coverage in Changesets limits our capacity to simply monitor changes to the map and OSM conributors have often complain about this. Automated Edits code of conduct [1] and Mechanical Edit Policy [2] wiki pages do not talk about restricting Worldwide BOT Coverage in one Changeset. Searching the discussion lists, I cannot find discussion / propositions to establish rules that limit the coverage. I then propose to add a a rule for Automated / Mechanical Edits so that an individual Changeset do not cover a large area. It could be for example a rule that says no more than a 500km x 500km. Pierre [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Community Edit Monitoring vs Worldwide BOT Coverage in Changesets
Pierre Béland wrote: The changesets listed were reduced by half when providing the url http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets?bbox=-73.6318%2C45.409%2C-73.444%2C45.4946 with http://positron96.appspot.com/osmfilter.html. This solution would effectively eliminate an important amount of changesets from the History Report if it was adopted. Therefore, this solution does not cover all the situations. When a worldwide changeset covers partly a local area, it is quite uneasy to detect wich objects were modified in this local area. Especially when the changeset affects hundreds of objects. Try http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/scripts/rss.php?bbox=-73.6318%2C45.409%2C-73.444%2C45.4946 Alas, it will not show changesets that modified only ways or relations in the area, but haven't touched any of the nodes. You need to use OWL (which is offline at the moment) to have that. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hosting of rackspace gezocht voor yournavigation.org
On 30-09-12 00:18, Maarten Deen wrote: Je krijgt tegenwoordig steeds meer plaatsen waar je thuis een aansluiting op glasvezel hebt. Zou dat ook werken? Maarten (nog geen glas) Ja hoor, zolang je maar van buitenaf bij een poortje kan komen. De verbinding hoeft geen glas te zijn, ik schat dat 10 Mbit al genoeg is (de reactietijd route aanvragen af te handelen isbelangrijk maar het gaat hier niet om bulk dataverkeer). Poort 80 hoeft ook niet toegankelijk te zijn, de frontend website kan routes vanaf elke willekeurige poort opvragen. Ik zit hier nog met ADSL (1Mbit uplink). Reggefiber slaat Apeldoorn voorlopig over, wegens de financiele problemen van het gemeentebestuur. :-( ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [Talk-br] (Re-)mapaton IBGE
Olá a todos e desculpe pela demora, Eu atualizei o arquivo com os caminhos do IBGE que não foram modificados desde a importação inicial: http://sites.google.com/site/vsessak/IBGE_nao_modificado4.osm.gz . Para quem quiser ver o progresso que foi feito desde antes da mapathon, basta abrir o novo e o velho arquivo em camadas diferentes do JOSM. Mas para quem não quiser baixar os arquivos eu resumo: bastante coisa foi remapeada :-) []'s, -Vitor On 09/07/2012 06:13 PM, Vitor George wrote: Eu quis dizer se você pode atualizar este arquivo semanalmente. 2012/9/7 Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com mailto:vitor.geo...@gmail.com Muito boa iniciativa Vitor. Você que pode atualizar este arquivo semanalmente até que tudo já esteja remapeado? Vitor 2012/9/7 Vitor Sessak vitor1...@gmail.com mailto:vitor1...@gmail.com Olá a todos, Para que não viu as outras mensagens da lista, o Aun deu a boa idéia de fazer um mapaton hoje para remapear os dados imprecisos do IBGE. Logo eu aproveitei para atualisar minha lista de vias que precisam ser remapeadas. O arquivo pode ser baixado em http://sites.google.com/site/vsessak/IBGE_nao_modificado2.osm.gz . Para quem quiser participar é simples: 1) Abrir o arquivo acima numa nova camada no JOSM. O arquivo é composto de pontos e normalmente cada um corresponde à uma via pouco precisa a ser remapeada. 2) Procurar um destes pontos onde tem imagens do Bing (de preferência de boa qualidade, mas se a de baixa resolução for boa o suficiente para mapear serve). 3) Baixar os dados dos OSM numa camada diferente daquela do arquivo. 4) A não ser que um outro voluntário já tenha remapeado essa via hoje, ela deve ter um traçado bem ruim. Se for o caso, remapeie a via e melhore a qualidade do OSM no Brasil :-) []'s -Vitor ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Tag name=*
Olá Leandro, Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:33:09 -0300 From: Leandro Motta Barros l...@stackedboxes.org To: OSM talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-br] Tag name=* Bom dia, Vejo muitos usos da tag name que eu considero inadequados. Por exemplo: 1) name=Acesso à Avenida XYZ [...] Nenhum destes casos refere-se a um nome oficial. Para mim, são claramente tagging for the renderer. O segundo caso também é ruim pelo menos no no. 1) pode ser você quem está errado (e poderia se preocupar menos): Aqui em Florianópolis existem muitas ruas que tem uma placa oficial com nome exatamente assim. Por favor não apague esses dados. Não importa se existe alguma lei com esse nome ou não. Se está na placa, é um nome no sentido de OSM. O maior problema é que nenhum editor do OSM (e nem o sistema em si) exige fontes, então em muitos casos não dá para saber de onde o colega tirou o nome. Nomes como Escola podem ser incompletos mas não sei se isso justifica apagá-los. Se alguém passa de carro e só vê uma placa Escola... sem conseguir ler o nome completo, ele pode achar melhor colocar o nome Escola (com algum fixme ou note) que nenhum. Mas certo, sem fonte não dá para verificar esta história. Se Retorno é um nome, não sei. Sem dúvida é uma informação que não devia ser apagada mas no máximo ser colocada num outro tag. Às vezes tem Saída 1 e Saída 2, por exemplo. Esses não são nomes? Sem dúvida a informação é ainda mais útil que o Retorno. Em cidade que não conheço só corrijo erros realmente óbvios e tento não apagar dados neste processo. O resto deixaria para o grupo local. Infelizmente poucas cidades têm um wiki ou pelo menos um contato. Correções regulares no país todo usando um bot, por exemplo, deviam ser documentados no wiki. Martin ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Etwas Ratlos -- taggen für den Renderer
Hi, um mal auf die Originalfrage zu antworten: Ich habe hier auch vermehrt Fälle, die ich für 'Tagging-für-den-Renderer' halte. Allerdings is es wirklich nicht immer einfach, das von normalen tagging-Fehlern zu unterscheiden. Ein 'village_green' für eine innerstädtische Grünfläche sieht zum Beispiel nach einem Anfängerfehler aus, der changeset-Kommentar verrät dann aber doch, dass das war um es 'grün auf der Karte' zu machen. Hier hab ich dann einfach auf ein 'grass' geändert und in meinem Kommentar auf die Wikiseite von 'village_green' verwiesen. Ein anderes mal hielt ich ein natural=water für das Becken eines Springbrunnens für 'Tagging-für-den-Renderer', musste dann aber feststellen, das im Wiki diese Verwendung durchaus nicht ausgeschlossen wird. Ich hab das Tag dann so gelassen. Genaus fraglich ist, wenn einer einen railway = tram_stop node neben die railway = platform ways setzt. Ganz klar nur passiert, um das Icon in die Karte zu bekommen. Aber laut Wiki auch nicht wirklich falsch. Anders sieht es aus, wenn Leute nodes in bereits richtig getaggte Gebäude setzen, weil ihnen in Potlatch das Icon fehlt. Die lösch ich einfach wieder mit entsprechendem Kommentar. Generell tausche ich solche Tags mit einem Hinweis in meinem Changesetkomentar aus, wenn ich mir der Sache sicher bin und es vereinzelt vorkommt. Macht der User das dauernd (oder ändert sogar bestehende Tags ab), schreibe ich ihn an. In den seltensten Fällen erhalte ich Antwort, die meisten hören aber trotzdem auf. Helfen könnte meines Erachtens nach eine Liste von 'Schlechten Beispielen' auf der Wikiseite [1], sowie ein wenig Begründung, warum das nicht sein soll (fhlt momentan). Damit ist Anfängern schneller klar, was gemeint ist und man braucht erst mal nur auf die Seite zu verweisen, statt ewig lange Mails zu verfassen. Was halte ihr davon? Gruss, Chaos [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 115
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 115 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2012/09/wochennotiz-nr-115/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Frage: GPX Track einer Relation extrahieren/runterladen?
Hallo, kann ich irgendwo/irgendwie den GPX Track einer Relation extrahieren? Konkreter Fall: Der Isar-Radweg ist ja wunderbar verzeichnet und zumindest auch teilweise auf der opencyclemap zu sehen, wird aber groesstenteils durch andere parallel verlaufende Wege 'ueberschattet' (im Rendering). Ich haette gerne etwas, das mir die Wege/Punkte der Relation (ref='Is' usw.) als GPX liefert. Gibt's da was? Danke, Alex. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Frage: GPX Track einer Relation extrahieren/runterladen?
cycling.lonvia.de hat die gesuchte Funktion fuer Radrouten- hiking.lonvia.de fuer Wanderrouten Fuer dein Beispiel: einfach Isar Radweg ins Suchfeld eingeben Volker 2012/9/30 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de Hallo, kann ich irgendwo/irgendwie den GPX Track einer Relation extrahieren? Konkreter Fall: Der Isar-Radweg ist ja wunderbar verzeichnet und zumindest auch teilweise auf der opencyclemap zu sehen, wird aber groesstenteils durch andere parallel verlaufende Wege 'ueberschattet' (im Rendering). Ich haette gerne etwas, das mir die Wege/Punkte der Relation (ref='Is' usw.) als GPX liefert. Gibt's da was? Danke, Alex. __**_ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-dehttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] un bello servizio nuovo per monitorare la propria area
Molto interessante e molto ben fatto! Grazie Martin! Il giorno 30 settembre 2012 11:57, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Guardatevi questo nuovo servizio di Ilya Zverik, utilissimo per scoprire cancellazione nel proprio territorio: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=12lat=42.06189lon=12.08384layers=BTT ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- MANASSERO Alberto FOSSANO Tieni bene in mente le conseguenze per il nostro ambiente prima di stampare questa e-mail. Please consider the consequences for your environment before printing this e-mail. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag entrance
Am 30.09.2012 um 14:24 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Mi chiedevo se fosse opportuno sostituire anche i barrier=entrance. Secondo me no. Perché lo vorresti fare? Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag entrance
2012/9/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 30.09.2012 um 14:24 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Mi chiedevo se fosse opportuno sostituire anche i barrier=entrance. Secondo me no. Perché lo vorresti fare? Mi sembra sia usato in modo identico a building=entrance in città.. Ad esempio http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1487627625 La wiki non è chiara sulla distinzione http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dentrance Bisognerebbe specificare che barrier=entrance non va usato nei fabbricati ad esempio ma solo per i 'buchi' nei barrier, oppure aggiungere dei valori ad entrance=* per includere anche questo caso.. Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
Sono tornato dalla Cina e dopo tre mesi scarico la mappa di Ferrara aggiornata. Bellissima, un mucchio di cose aggiunte. La converto per Garmin, la uso e... Sorpresa: tantissimi percorsi destinazione impossibile :-O Vado a vedere e scopro almeno una decina di strade non più connesse, quasi tutte le rotatorie hanno il tag junction=roundabout cancellato, le piste ciclabili non sono più connesse alle strade. Qualcosina ho cominciato a correggere ma è un'impresa titanica, c'è da ricontrollare praticamente tutto. Un macello. Cos'è successo? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
Il 30/09/2012 21:13, Alexander Roalter ha scritto: On 09/30/2012 08:28 PM, Stefano Droghetti wrote: Sono tornato dalla Cina e dopo tre mesi scarico la mappa di Ferrara aggiornata. Bellissima, un mucchio di cose aggiunte. La converto per Garmin, la uso e... Sorpresa: tantissimi percorsi destinazione impossibile :-O Vado a vedere e scopro almeno una decina di strade non più connesse, quasi tutte le rotatorie hanno il tag junction=roundabout cancellato, le piste ciclabili non sono più connesse alle strade. Qualcosina ho cominciato a correggere ma è un'impresa titanica, c'è da ricontrollare praticamente tutto. Un macello. Cos'è successo? È possibile che si tratti del redaction bot? in che cosa consiste? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Redaction_bot_progress_map Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 30/set/2012 23:49, Caterpillar caterpilla...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 30/09/2012 21:13, Alexander Roalter ha scritto: On 09/30/2012 08:28 PM, Stefano Droghetti wrote: Sono tornato dalla Cina e dopo tre mesi scarico la mappa di Ferrara aggiornata. Bellissima, un mucchio di cose aggiunte. La converto per Garmin, la uso e... Sorpresa: tantissimi percorsi destinazione impossibile :-O Vado a vedere e scopro almeno una decina di strade non più connesse, quasi tutte le rotatorie hanno il tag junction=roundabout cancellato, le piste ciclabili non sono più connesse alle strade. Qualcosina ho cominciato a correggere ma è un'impresa titanica, c'è da ricontrollare praticamente tutto. Un macello. Cos'è successo? È possibile che si tratti del redaction bot? in che cosa consiste? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
Il 01/10/2012 00:54, Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Redaction_bot_progress_map Non credo, io credo che sia stato più che altro un import. Ci sono adesso parti di Ferrara con tantissimi dettagli aggiunti, bellissimi peraltro, inclusi palazzi dalla sagoma perfetta. Ci sono anche tutti i campi coltivati. Le rotatorie a cui mancava il tag per esempio erano state raddrizzate, cioè erano cerchi perfetti. A me sembra più un import. Tutta roba che non c'era tre mesi fa. Oggi ho provato a correggere un po' di roba ma è davvero dura. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] un bello servizio nuovo per monitorare la propria area
Il 30/09/2012 11:57, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: Guardatevi questo nuovo servizio di Ilya Zverik, utilissimo per scoprire cancellazione nel proprio territorio: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=12lat=42.06189lon=12.08384layers=BTT ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Stupendo, grazie ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
2012/10/1 Stefano Droghetti stefano.droghe...@gmail.com: Non credo, io credo che sia stato più che altro un import. Ci sono adesso parti di Ferrara con tantissimi dettagli aggiunti, bellissimi peraltro, inclusi palazzi dalla sagoma perfetta. Ci sono anche tutti i campi coltivati. Le rotatorie a cui mancava il tag per esempio erano state raddrizzate, cioè erano cerchi perfetti. A me sembra più un import. Tutta roba che non c'era tre mesi fa. Oggi ho provato a correggere un po' di roba ma è davvero dura. apparentemente è questo utente abbastanza appassionato, che lavora con Potlatch2: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheNick/edits Hai già scritto a Nick? Qui si vede bene, potresti indagare un po di più, ho solo dato uno sguardo superficiale: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=13lat=44.83522lon=11.6207layers=BTTage=187 ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrara: vandalismo?
Il 01/10/2012 01:10, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: apparentemente è questo utente abbastanza appassionato, che lavora con Potlatch2: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheNick/edits Hai già scritto a Nick? Qui si vede bene, potresti indagare un po di più, ho solo dato uno sguardo superficiale: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=13lat=44.83522lon=11.6207layers=BTTage=187 È sicuramente lui. Non so perché ma il feed non mi aveva segnalato le sue modifiche. Ora l'ho reimpostato e le vedo. Gli ho appena scritto. Vediamo un po'. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-es] Escuela y instituto
Hola, El 27 de septiembre de 2012 19:14, Asier Urio Larrea asier...@gmail.comescribió: Creo que no, Si no me equivoco la pregunta es como etiquetar algo que sea dos o más cosas a la vez. Un centro de enseñanza que en el mismo edificio este la guardería y primaria. A mí también me pasa con algún comercio que le corresponden dos etiquetas. Una solución puede ser crear un area y dentro dos puntos uno de guardería y otro de escuela. Pero creo que quedaría mal en el mismo recinto: - Guardería Noseque - Escuela Noseque como leo por aquí [1], se podrían crear dos elementos distintos, uno donde esté el edificio de infantil y otro donde esté el de secundaria, aunque ambos se encuentren en el mismo recinto. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator#When_NOT_to_use_a_semi-colon_value_separator -- Juan **Luis Rodríguez** Ponce ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] 3D tags angebracht, kontrolle, Infos?
Moin! Ich hab mich in den letzten 2 Wochen ein wenig mit den Gebäuden in Graz in der Eisteichgasse und Dr.Robert Graf Strasse auseinander gesetzt, die Grundrisse verfeinert (nach Luftbild und Fotos), 3D Tags angeheftet und die Eingänge gemappt (und Adressen an die entrance:yes Tags geheftet). Hinzu kamen diverse Fußwege und andere Wege. Ich habe viele Eingänge mit den Strassen mit einem kurzen Highway:footway verbunden, sieht mir logisch aus. Mag nochmal wer rüberschauen auf Fehler, Hinweise, andere Tips,...? http://osm.org/go/0I5UVH3pL- Dazu die Dauerbrenner Frage: Tiefgaragen... Hat da wer ein gutes Tagging-Schema, wenn die TG Teil des Gebäudes ist, aber auf dem Dach der TG auch Wiese, Bäume, Wege,... sind? Danke. MfG, Lars Schimmer -- - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schim...@cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-lv] download geofabrik jauna adrese
Ir tāds ērts resurss download.geofabrik.de, kurā reizi dienā sagatavo OSM datu ekstraktus pa valstīm. Laikam sakara ar ODBL maiņu, ir pamainītas download adreses: vecā: http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/latvia.osm.pbf jauna: http://download.geofabrik.de/openstreetmap/europe/latvia.osm.pbf Vecajā adresē ir dati līdz ~09.11, jaunā atsvaidzinās reizi dienā. A. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Ils sont deux à avoir effacé des routes ou chemins le 23 et le 29... http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13220334 http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13300732 Le 29 septembre 2012 20:58, Cavok cavok...@free.fr a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 concernant la suppression de la D4. Mon JOSM étant libre. J'espère que cela n'a pas détruit autre chose... Le 29 septembre 2012 19:24, Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr a écrit : Le 29/09/2012 19:15, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Juste un coup d'oeil dans les Pyrénées avec le bel outil, et je crois bien que ici, un nouveau contributeur a froidement sucré la D4 : http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=13lat=42.85871lon=0.98808layers=BTT Vous confirmez ? Le 29/09/2012 12:07, Cavok a écrit : Bon outil précis. Merci du partage. 2012/9/29 Olivier Croquette m...@ocroquette.de mailto:m...@ocroquette.de Voici un message de la liste talk, qui pointe vers un outil très pratique pour surveiller les changements dans une zone: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr C'est clair ! Une erreur de jeunesse ? Q : plutôt un revert ou lui demander de corriger ? A+ -- Marc Sibert mailto:m...@sibert.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Apparemment ton revert a supprimé plus de chose que ce qu'avait supprimé amames, et tu en as rajouté un peu au passage, je suppose que c'est correct. Le 30 septembre 2012 08:16, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Ils sont deux à avoir effacé des routes ou chemins le 23 et le 29... http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13220334 http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13300732 Le 29 septembre 2012 20:58, Cavok cavok...@free.fr a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 concernant la suppression de la D4. Mon JOSM étant libre. J'espère que cela n'a pas détruit autre chose... Le 29 septembre 2012 19:24, Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr a écrit : Le 29/09/2012 19:15, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Juste un coup d'oeil dans les Pyrénées avec le bel outil, et je crois bien que ici, un nouveau contributeur a froidement sucré la D4 : http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=13lat=42.85871lon=0.98808layers=BTT Vous confirmez ? Le 29/09/2012 12:07, Cavok a écrit : Bon outil précis. Merci du partage. 2012/9/29 Olivier Croquette m...@ocroquette.de mailto:m...@ocroquette.de Voici un message de la liste talk, qui pointe vers un outil très pratique pour surveiller les changements dans une zone: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr C'est clair ! Une erreur de jeunesse ? Q : plutôt un revert ou lui demander de corriger ? A+ -- Marc Sibert mailto:m...@sibert.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] route forestière: unclassified ou track/tracktype=grade1 ?
Bonjour, J'essaie de cartographier la foret de Haye, à côté de Nancy (http://osm.org/go/0DEnFeB). Dans cette foret, il y a un réseau de routes forestières en asphalte, mais qui sont toutes interdites à la circulation (soit avec un panneau blanc cerclé de rouge, avec un deuxième panneau sauf ayants-droits, soit avec une barrière, selon les accès). Le revetement est globalement en bon état, avec quelques trous, mais est assez sale (gravier, qqes branches). On peut s'y aventurer sans problème avec un VTC, mais avec un vélo de course, le risque de crever est assez important. La largeur des routes ne permet pas à des voitures de se croiser sans s'arrêter, ou au moins sans ralentir suffisamment pour pouvoir rouler dans le bas-côté. Actuellement, ces routes sont taggées highway=unclassified, avec des restrictions d'accès (pas complètes pour l'instant). Je me demande s'il ne faudrait pas plutot les tagger: highway=track tracktype=grade1 surface=asphalt J'ai l'impression que dans l'esprit, highway=unclassified est plus destiné à des petites routes de campagnes entre villages, qu'à des routes interdites à la circulation destinées à l'exploitation forestière. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Lucas ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Le 29/09/2012 20:58, Cavok a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 concernant la suppression de la D4. tu aurais pu me demander avant, non ? j'avais le revert modifié chargé dans josm, et j'attendais juste la confirmation de la communauté pour appuyer sur le bouton ; j'ai bossé pour rien, ça m'énerve. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Le 29/09/2012 20:58, Cavok a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 :)) allez, hop, un petit dernier pour la route : http://osmfight.neis-one.org/?u1=cavokldu2=HelenePETIT Gnarf ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Non, mon revert n'avait pas supprimé plus de chose qu'il n'en a rajouté. Mais ces quelques choses quand même ont été en effet rajouté par la suite en me permettant de faire quelques modifications. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13302289 comment = Rajout des suppression du au revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 Je me suis permis également de lui faire un petit message de l'intervention. Le 30 septembre 2012 08:20, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Apparemment ton revert a supprimé plus de chose que ce qu'avait supprimé amames, et tu en as rajouté un peu au passage, je suppose que c'est correct. Le 30 septembre 2012 08:16, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Ils sont deux à avoir effacé des routes ou chemins le 23 et le 29... http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13220334 http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13300732 Le 29 septembre 2012 20:58, Cavok cavok...@free.fr a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 concernant la suppression de la D4. Mon JOSM étant libre. J'espère que cela n'a pas détruit autre chose... Le 29 septembre 2012 19:24, Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr a écrit : Le 29/09/2012 19:15, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Juste un coup d'oeil dans les Pyrénées avec le bel outil, et je crois bien que ici, un nouveau contributeur a froidement sucré la D4 : http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=13lat=42.85871lon=0.98808layers=BTT Vous confirmez ? Le 29/09/2012 12:07, Cavok a écrit : Bon outil précis. Merci du partage. 2012/9/29 Olivier Croquette m...@ocroquette.de mailto:m...@ocroquette.de Voici un message de la liste talk, qui pointe vers un outil très pratique pour surveiller les changements dans une zone: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr C'est clair ! Une erreur de jeunesse ? Q : plutôt un revert ou lui demander de corriger ? A+ -- Marc Sibert mailto:m...@sibert.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression de la D4 dans les pyrénées
Désolé, mais je n'est pas trouvé dans les messages que tu était prête à faire feu. Le 30 septembre 2012 10:07, Hélène PETIT h...@free.fr a écrit : Le 29/09/2012 20:58, Cavok a écrit : Voila, je viens de faire le revert du Groupe de modifications : 13220334 concernant la suppression de la D4. tu aurais pu me demander avant, non ? j'avais le revert modifié chargé dans josm, et j'attendais juste la confirmation de la communauté pour appuyer sur le bouton ; j'ai bossé pour rien, ça m'énerve. __**_ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-frhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] route forestière: unclassified ou track/tracktype=grade1 ?
J'essaie de cartographier la foret de Haye, à côté de Nancy (http://osm.org/go/0DEnFeB). Dans cette foret, il y a un réseau de routes forestières en asphalte [...] Actuellement, ces routes sont taggées highway=unclassified, avec des restrictions d'accès (pas complètes pour l'instant). Je me demande s'il ne faudrait pas plutot les tagger: highway=track tracktype=grade1 surface=asphalt +1 pour track et surface. Après, je suis moins fan de tracktype dont la valeur numérique ne veut rien dire en soit. Je préfère smoothness (=intermediate ici) mais on va me répondre que la relation entre la valeur de la clé et le type de véhicule pouvant passer n'est pas tellement plus clair. Éric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Re : Restreignons les imports des cours d'eau depuis le cadastre - cleocarto
Désolais pour ma question, mais: Quel est le ou les problèmes avec cette donnée (natures, récurrences, ...) ? Rien trouvé sur le Wiki cadastre () ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réf.: Re: Imports du cadastre et compte dédié - import adresses Nantes aussi !
Le samedi 29 septembre 2012 à 13:18 +0200, yvecai a écrit : On 09/29/2012 12:49 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: Le samedi 29 septembre 2012 12:20:15, Christian Quest a écrit : C'est nécessaire de traduire sauf si on laisse aux communautés locales le soin de s'auto-gérer. Un gros +1 Ben non ! On partage tous la même base. Si le travail de la communauté française s'était mieux expliqué au reste de la communauté, cela donnerait justement moins de prise à toute une série d'arguments et d'incompréhension qu'on a pu lire sur talk. Après coup, ça fait des gros fils sur talk que plus grand monde doit lire: du coup c'est trop tard. oué oué, t'as raison, il faut une langue commune. ça tombe bien, le français est la langue diplomatique. Les rosbifs et les yankees n'ont qu'a s'aligner pour prouver leur bonne foi ! Librement, -- Christophe Merlet (RedFox) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réf.: Re: Imports du cadastre et compte dédié - import adresses Nantes aussi !
Le samedi 29 septembre 2012 à 13:18 +0200, yvecai a écrit : Aussi, a propos des 'Guidelines' : dans pas mal de cultures, si on lit 'guidelines', on applique. On connaît tous ici nos spécificités franco-françaises qui impliquent un comportement tout différent :). Mais il faut bien se rappeler que ces spécificités ne sont pas forcément compréhensibles et donc dur à intégrer par d'autres. A part un effort de com' (dans le fond, dans la forme, et surtout dans la tête !), y'a pas moyen de s'en sortir. Et donc c'est a nous de perdre notre identité culturelle ? Pour moi un bon travail d'équipe ne consiste pas à formater l'ensemble dans un moule unique mais à exploiter les différences. Librement, -- Christophe Merlet (RedFox) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La forêt en chiffres et en cartes – édition 2012
Les seules données brutes téléchargeables sont les recensements des arbres sur le terrain. Le couvert n'est pas accessible! Encore une intoxe à la IGN vers une soit disante ouverture des données. Tu peux voir mais pas toucher. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/La-foret-en-chiffres-et-en-cartes-edition-2012-tp5722736p5728270.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
Une conflation simple de la coastline suffit, car ce n'est pas réellement une limite administrative (il ne doit y avoir d'ailleurs aucun tag boundary=administrative ni admin_level=* sur les ways concernés), mais juste une ligne naturelle qu'on peut estimer à l’oeil nu sur l'imagerie à moins de reprendre sa définition depuis le Géolitoral (cela ne fait une grande différence en distance que sur les plages soumises à la marée ou sur les bordures de zones humides, là où le trait de côte n'est pas facile à estimer, si la laisse de mer n'est pas clairement visible). Le Golfe du Mobihan est encore loin d'être terminé avec ses îles, certaines sont dans le domaine maritime et ne dépendent d'aucune commune, d'autres îles sont à inclure dans les communes (mais sans l'espace marin autour qui reste dans le domaine maritime). La réserve naturelle quant à elle inclut le domaine maritime. Attention à ne pas supprimer n'importe quoi : les régions, départements, communes, communautés de communes doivent continuer à se fermer et se recouvrir correctement, mais aucune ne doit inclure le domaine maritime. Si le trait s'arrête à la ligne de côte on n'a pas besoin d'une seconde ligne administrative pour ces collectivités locales. Le domaine maritime est un domaine national, déjà inclu dans les limites territoriales françaises. La seule ambiguité vient sur les estuaires : trace-t-on une ligne de côte pour les traverser ? Oui si ce n'est pas très large (moins de 100 mètres environ), sinon la ligne de côte va pénétrer dans l'estuaire : on ne peut pas tellement situer facilement la ligne de partage entre l'eau de mer et l'eau fluviale (trop dépendant de la marée et du régime fluvial, sans compter l'effet des mascarets ou les deux eaux se superposent en marée montante !), sauf en cas de contruction d'un barrage séparant les eaux. D'ailleurs je pense sincèrement que l'estuaire de la Gironde est coupé par une ligne trop près de l'embouchure : c'est encore trop large si on retient un critère de largeur pusique le parage des eaux est impossible à définir (en plus il coupe des îles au milieu du fleuve en deux !). Pour moi toute la Gironde (pas la Dordogne ou la Garonne) est dans le domaine marin. Le 29 septembre 2012 18:20, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com a écrit : Hep les Bretons, il y a un truc bizarre de ce coté la : http://wightpaths.co.uk/coast/?zoom=18lat=47.62088lon=-2.86987layers=B Il y a un trait de côte (natural=coastline) quasiment superposé sur une longue distance avec des limites administratives qui ont aussi le tag natural=coastline ! On fait quoi la ? Vlad. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
Si tu veux t'amuser, regarde plutôt du côté de la Méditerranée, particulièrement la côte du Languedoc-Roussillon, où les traits se juxtaposent sans logique autour de la ligne de côte, elle aussi très imprécise mais qui devrait pourtant une fois affinée servir de frontière des communes, arrondissements, départements et régions. Le 29 septembre 2012 18:20, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com a écrit : Hep les Bretons, il y a un truc bizarre de ce coté la : http://wightpaths.co.uk/coast/?zoom=18lat=47.62088lon=-2.86987layers=B Il y a un trait de côte (natural=coastline) quasiment superposé sur une longue distance avec des limites administratives qui ont aussi le tag natural=coastline ! On fait quoi la ? Vlad. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
On 30 sept. 2012, at 13:31, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Si tu veux t'amuser, regarde plutôt du côté de la Méditerranée, particulièrement la côte du Languedoc-Roussillon, où les traits se juxtaposent sans logique autour de la ligne de côte, elle aussi très imprécise mais qui devrait pourtant une fois affinée servir de frontière des communes, arrondissements, départements et régions. Oui j'ai déjà regardé et cela me désespère ! J'ai fait des corrections en partant de l'est mais j'ai abandonné vers Toulon... De plus je me suis rendu compte que je n'ai pas fait que des corrections correctes, notamment au niveau des ports que j'ai creusé avec la ligne de côte ou avant l'eau n'était symbolisée que par le tag leisure=marina, mais j'ai également fait suivre la ligne de côte aux limites administrative, excluant la surface de la partie marine du port, ce qui me semble faux maintenant... Pour en revenir au Morbihan, je suis tombé par hasard sur cette erreur en regardant le site qui donne les erreurs actuelle sur la coastline. Et contrairement a la superposition approximative des différentes lignes administratives, natural=coastline,... du Languedoc-Roussillon dans le Morbihan il y a un vrai problème avec 2 lignes qui possédent le tag natural=coastline qui se chevauchent sur des kiliometres. De plus une des lignes de côte s'arrête brusquement au point rouge sur la carte de mon précédent mail. Le 29 septembre 2012 18:20, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com a écrit : Hep les Bretons, il y a un truc bizarre de ce coté la : http://wightpaths.co.uk/coast/?zoom=18lat=47.62088lon=-2.86987layers=B Il y a un trait de côte (natural=coastline) quasiment superposé sur une longue distance avec des limites administratives qui ont aussi le tag natural=coastline ! On fait quoi la ? Vlad. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
Le 30/09/2012 15:42, Vladimir Vyskocil a écrit : Et contrairement a la superposition approximative des différentes lignes administratives, natural=coastline,... du Languedoc-Roussillon dans le Morbihan il y a un vrai problème avec 2 lignes qui possédent le tag natural=coastline qui se chevauchent sur des kiliometres. De plus une des lignes de côte s'arrête brusquement au point rouge sur la carte de mon précédent mail. Je serai d'avis de laisser uniquement le natural=coastline sur la limite administrative, les limites communales ont moins de chances de bouger que la réserve naturelle. Et pour la zone montrée dans le premier message, mettre natural=coastline sur le chemin 35210592 (limite administrative à l'est), et sur les chemins 35210599 et 35212411. Et pour finir, fermer la réserve naturelle, à laquelle il manque un morceau. Je m'en occupe ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] visualisation des fontaines
Bonjour, Je m'interesse beaucoup aux fontaines bretonnes. Il y en a de nombreuses dans OSM. On les voit très bien avec JOSM. Par contre, avec http://www.openstreetmap.org, on ne voit par l'icône. Exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.40466lon=-4.77148zoom=20layers=M Elles sont codées amenity/ fountain autre exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.41893lon=-4.78593zoom=20layers=M Merci d'avance Jean -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/visualisation-des-fontaines-tp5728292.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
On 30 sept. 2012, at 16:08, panierAvide panierav...@laposte.net wrote: Le 30/09/2012 15:42, Vladimir Vyskocil a écrit : Et contrairement a la superposition approximative des différentes lignes administratives, natural=coastline,... du Languedoc-Roussillon dans le Morbihan il y a un vrai problème avec 2 lignes qui possédent le tag natural=coastline qui se chevauchent sur des kiliometres. De plus une des lignes de côte s'arrête brusquement au point rouge sur la carte de mon précédent mail. Je serai d'avis de laisser uniquement le natural=coastline sur la limite administrative, les limites communales ont moins de chances de bouger que la réserve naturelle. Et pour la zone montrée dans le premier message, mettre natural=coastline sur le chemin 35210592 (limite administrative à l'est), et sur les chemins 35210599 et 35212411. Et pour finir, fermer la réserve naturelle, à laquelle il manque un morceau. Je m'en occupe ? Ok, je n'y voit pas d'inconvénient. Vlad. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] visualisation des fontaines
Bonjour, Tout ne peut pas être rendu sur la carte Mapnik. Mais tu peux utiliser la xapiviewer par exemple : http://osm.dumoulin63.net/xapiviewer/?lat=48.41541lon=-4.74619zoom=12layers=B0Ticon=icons%2Famenity_fountain2.n.32.pngrequest=amenity%3Dfountain L'avantage, c'est que tu peux afficher ce que tu veux, avec l’icône que tu veux. Tu peux même obtenir des infos sur la fontaines en cliquant dessus ;-) Le 30 septembre 2012 17:26, plonevez jlplone...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Je m'interesse beaucoup aux fontaines bretonnes. Il y en a de nombreuses dans OSM. On les voit très bien avec JOSM. Par contre, avec http://www.openstreetmap.org, on ne voit par l'icône. Exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.40466lon=-4.77148zoom=20layers=M Elles sont codées amenity/ fountain autre exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.41893lon=-4.78593zoom=20layers=M Merci d'avance Jean -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/visualisation-des-fontaines-tp5728292.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
Le 30/09/2012 17:32, Vladimir Vyskocil a écrit : Ok, je n'y voit pas d'inconvénient. C'est fait, la réserve naturelle apparaît de nouveau, normalement il n'y a plus de soucis ;) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] visualisation des fontaines
Salut, Tu peux aussi essayer par là : http://francetopo.fr/?map_x=125957.75map_y=6839785.25map_zoom=11map_visibility_FT_wms=truemap_opacity_FT_wms=1map_visibility_FT_V_wms=falsemap_opacity_FT_V_wms=1map_visibility_Fond%20vierge=falsemap_opacity_Fond%20vierge=1map_visibility_CI=truemap_opacity_CI=1map_visibility_CT=truemap_opacity_CT=1map_visibility_Calque%20randoroutes=falsemap_opacity_Calque%20randoroutes=1map_visibility_Circuits%20de%20randonn%C3%A9e%20cycliste=falsemap_opacity_Circuits%20de%20randonn%C3%A9e%20cycliste=1map_visibility_Calque%20whitewater=falsemap_opacity_Calque%20whitewater=1map_visibility_Dessin%20vectoriel=truemap_opacity_Dessin%20vectoriel=1map_visibility_Grille%20g%C3%A9od%C3%A9sique=falsemap_opacity_Grille%20g%C3%A9od%C3%A9sique=1map_visibility_POI%20Transports=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Transports=1map_visibility_POI%20Tourisme=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Tourisme=1map_visibility_POI%20Services%20Publics=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Services%20Publics=1map_visibility_POI%20Services%20Financiers=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Services%20Financiers=1map_visibility_POI%20S%C3%A9curit%C3%A9=falsemap_opacity_POI%20S%C3%A9curit%C3%A9=1map_visibility_POI%20Sant%C3%A9=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Sant%C3%A9=1map_visibility_POI%20Restauration=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Restauration=1map_visibility_POI%20Patrimoine=truemap_opacity_POI%20Patrimoine=1map_visibility_POI%20Loisirs=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Loisirs=1map_visibility_POI%20H%C3%A9bergements=falsemap_opacity_POI%20H%C3%A9bergements=1map_visibility_POI%20%C3%89ducation=falsemap_opacity_POI%20%C3%89ducation=1map_visibility_POI%20Commerces=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Commerces=1map_visibility_POI%20Artisans=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Artisans=1map_visibility_POI%20Arbres=falsemap_opacity_POI%20Arbres=1map_visibility_Tous%20les%20POIs=falsemap_opacity_Tous%20les%20POIs=1map_visibility_Panneaux%20d%27agglom%C3%A9ration=falsemap_opacity_Panneaux%20d%27agglom%C3%A9ration=1map_visibility_Administratif=falsemap_opacity_Administratif=1map_visibility_Limitations%20de%20vitesse=falsemap_opacity_Limitations%20de%20vitesse=1map_visibility_Voies%20non%20nomm%C3%A9es=falsemap_opacity_Voies%20non%20nomm%C3%A9es=1map_visibility_Toponymes=falsemap_opacity_Toponymes=1 A+ Le 30/09/2012 17:26, plonevez a écrit : Bonjour, Je m'interesse beaucoup aux fontaines bretonnes. Il y en a de nombreuses dans OSM. On les voit très bien avec JOSM. Par contre, avec http://www.openstreetmap.org, on ne voit par l'icône. Exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.40466lon=-4.77148zoom=20layers=M Elles sont codées amenity/ fountain autre exemple http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.41893lon=-4.78593zoom=20layers=M Merci d'avance Jean -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/visualisation-des-fontaines-tp5728292.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] visualisation des fontaines
Record de longueur de lien ? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Restreignons les imports des cours d'eau depuis le cadastre - cleocarto
+1 pour les restrictions d'accès aux fichiers générés depuis le cadastre ! que ce soit pour les fichiers du bâti, ce qui devrait permettre de limiter grandement tous les problèmes récents, et surtout pour la couche d'eau, ce qui permettra de la laisser accessible pour ceux qui le veulent ... Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] outil Missing communes
Salut, Le petit outil Missing communes affichait un peu n'importe quoi ces derniers temps. En fait il y avait un problème de requête trop longue qui l'empêchait de terminer son job correctement. Il semble que ce soit réparé. http://lab.cyrille.giquello.fr/carto/CommunesDB/web/MissingCommunes -- Cyrille. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Restreignons les imports des cours d'eau depuis le cadastre - cleocarto
Bonsoir Ne serait il pas plus judicieux de faire de la pédagogie ... en responsabilisant les utilisateurs? A priori le cadastre est libre, le projet aussi, dès lors l'accès au cadastre vecteur devrait idéalement rester libre. D'ailleurs ceci ne pose pas de problème. Ce qui pose problème c'est l'intégration dans OSM. Partant de ca on pourrait prendre des mesure pédagogique a la fois sur le wiki et sur le site de téléchargement expliquant que, si les document sont fourni tel quel, il n'ont pas a être importé tel quel dans OSM, que l'importation brutale et sans un travail soigné de nettoyage puis de fusion constructive avec l'existant est néfaste pour le projet OSM, et qu'en conséquence le vandale risque de se voir privé de contribuer. De meme expliquer clairement que les cours d'eau du cadastre ne sont pas fiable, et pourquoi, et que leur importation doit être exceptionnelle meme si elle est faite soigneusement. Idem pour les piscine ... C'est seulement après avoir lu et accepté ça qu'on accéderait librement aux documents. Ca permettrait d'effrayer un peu les serial importer,et surtout de pouvoir prendre des mesure radical contre ceux qui malgré les recommandation claire font n'importe quoi. Pour les autre on pourrait recommander de préférer dans un premier temps les importations de petites zone, genre un patté de maison a la fois pour se faire la main proprement, et de voir si l'import suscite de remarque ou pas, avant de s'enflammer a importer des dizaine de milliers de bâtiments. Cordialement. 2012/9/30 Sylvain Maillard sylvain.maill...@gmail.com: +1 pour les restrictions d'accès aux fichiers générés depuis le cadastre ! que ce soit pour les fichiers du bâti, ce qui devrait permettre de limiter grandement tous les problèmes récents, et surtout pour la couche d'eau, ce qui permettra de la laisser accessible pour ceux qui le veulent ... Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème de trait de côte près de Vannes
Je m'étais occupé d'une partie du Languedoc lorsque l'arrondissement de Béziers a été créé (en le confondant avec la communauté d'agglomération que j'ai corrigée aussi). Le 30 septembre 2012 15:42, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com a écrit : On 30 sept. 2012, at 13:31, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Si tu veux t'amuser, regarde plutôt du côté de la Méditerranée, particulièrement la côte du Languedoc-Roussillon, où les traits se juxtaposent sans logique autour de la ligne de côte, elle aussi très imprécise mais qui devrait pourtant une fois affinée servir de frontière des communes, arrondissements, départements et régions. Oui j'ai déjà regardé et cela me désespère ! J'ai fait des corrections en partant de l'est mais j'ai abandonné vers Toulon... Je pourrai m'occuper plus tard de ce coin là. En général quand ça commence, même pour un court segment (en laissant le reste pour ne pas aller trop loin, il y a une cascade de relations à corriger et quelques fois cela prend un temps considérable de tout revérifier et on voit aussi pas mal de conflits qui prennent des heures voire plusieurs jours à régler un par un en revérifiant chaque point triple d'intersection ou point double où une frontière a été coupée pour aller regarder ce qui est autour et voir ce qu'il faut reconnecter. C'est un travail de titan (pour le travail à faire) ou de fourmi (car il faut regarder très précisément autour et parvenir à lever les ambiguïtés en regardant autour, ou sur l'imagerie Bing (pour savoir de quel côté d'un trait devait se situer une forêt ou une ferme). Malheureusement je vois que certains connectent ensemble par un point d'intersection des polygones Corine très imprécis et des polygones de frontières très précis. Impossible de corriger alors convenablement le polygone Corine sans abimer la frontière si on ne fait pas attention. Je suis contre le fait de connecter les polygones landuse issus de Corine aux frontières sans avoir avoir ***au préalable*** corrigé ces polygones pour qu'ils correspondent à la réalité. Si c'est ambigu et qu'il n'y a pas moyen de savoir comment réparer un polygone Corine (ambiguité non résolue en regardant l'imagerie), c'est ce polygone que je sacrifie (quitte à ce qu'il reste ouvert, en y ajoutant un FIXME) pour refermer la frontière précise là où elle doit être. PAr fois c'est l'enfer de corriger ! A côté de ça les polygones de frontières laissés ouverts dans un niveau (exemple le département) mais correctement fermés dans un autre (exemple la commune) sont faciles à réparer car cela ne reste que des divisions d'une même frontière qui se superposent exactement au moins partiellement. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Restreignons les imports des cours d'eau depuis le cadastre - cleocarto
Ouaif, mouaif, Je ne me suis pas encore exprimé sur le sujet, n'étant pas un grand bavard de cette liste. Je me vois comme un petit contributeur actif, qui essaye de faire un travail propre et de nettoyer quand il y a du nettoyage à faire. J'ai fait mes deux-trois intégrations du cadastre. Autant, pour avoir traité la couche eau sans consignes, j'ai pesté tellement elle ne ressemblait à rien (je nettoie, je nettoie…), autant, j'ai intégré du bati consciencieusement, ceci ne présentant pas de difficulté supplémentaire. Rajouter un accès par mot de passe ou autre, je me sentirais séparé des grands intégrateurs, sur un autre niveau. Il y a des niveaux d'agilité à utiliser Josm (je ne parle pas de l'autre), que l'on gravit au fur et à mesure des défis (le cadastre, les relations…). Bloquer une étape, c'est me laisser au niveau bas, sans la possibilité de m'améliorer, exclu des bons travailleurs. Mes .02EUR. JB Le 30.09.2012 22:36, Sylvain Maillard a écrit : +1 pour les restrictions d'accès aux fichiers générés depuis le cadastre ! que ce soit pour les fichiers du bâti, ce qui devrait permettre de limiter grandement tous les problèmes récents, et surtout pour la couche d'eau, ce qui permettra de la laisser accessible pour ceux qui le veulent ... Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr [1] Links: -- [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] Yahoo/ALPSデータの一部タグ整理について
いいだです。 明日か明後日くらいには一次回答しちゃいたいな、って思います。 ちょっと強引かもしれませんが、 いまのところの意見をまとめるとこんなかんじ? ・yh: WIDTHは残す。変換は行わない。 参考値なので、widthの値が実測できたら手動で消す。 noteタグに情報を残すことも考えましたが、 このオペレーションはインポート情報のwikiページに書いておけば十分かな。。。 ・その他の yh:*タグはすべて消去 ご意見お待ちしています! 2012年9月28日 19:24 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いいだです。 yh:WIDTH_RANK による道路の区分けは既にできているので、 あとはyh:WIDTHの値を使って微調整ができるかどうか、ってところでしょうか。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:YahooJapanALPS_Data/Highway/DataStructure ただ、タグを残して使うにしても あくまで参考情報程度(=結局は実測が必要)じゃないかなぁ、と思っていますが、 指摘の通り、消してしまうことの影響が大きいので慎重に、というのは同意です。 逆に言えば、少なくともその他の yh: タグについては 消してしまう方向性でよい、という認識です。 どうでしょう? 2012年9月27日 6:23 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:50:11PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: いいだです。 NewYork Times誌の件で慌ただしい中ではあるのですが、、、 一部タグの削除の件、他にご意見ありますでしょうか? 今週いっぱい(9月末)まで待って、特に無ければ、 yh:で始まるタグはすべて削除する方向で話を進めようかな、と思っています。 過去の議論をみると、 yh: タグは、後の検証用としてとりあえず 付けた、ということですね。 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-September/006718.html で、基本的には通常のタグにマッピングされているが、yh:width だけは うまくできていない、ということでしょうか。 確かにあまり気にしていなかったのですが、Bingの画像+yh:WIDTH+yh:WIDTH_RANK で、もう少し細かくhighwayの値を決めるとか、できるようになるのかもしれません (もちろん手動で)。 消すと元に戻せない(ことはないがとても大変)なので、本当に大丈夫か どうか、もう少し見極めた方がいいのではないかと思います。 自分も、マップするときに、どこまで使えるかを試してみようと思います。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[OSM-ja] OpenLinkMap 日本語化の協力者募集
東です。 ご存じの方も多いと思いますがOpenLinkMapがかなり機能強化されています。 Wikipedia,website,opening_hours,smoking,wheelchairなどのタグを 見つけるとクリッカブルなホットリンクを自動作成し、 マップ上は○で表示します。 秋葉原付近: http://www.openlinkmap.org/?zoom=15lat=35.6982lon=139.77095layers=BFTTT また、検索窓でPOI名(マクドナルドとか)を指定すると該当名のPOIをリスト表示し ひとつ選ぶとその概要がポップアップ表示されます。 さらにそのポップアップ内で「More Details」をクリックすると POIの主要なタグの内容とともに、そこに行くための交通情報 (近くのバス停、駅、駐車場など)が表示されます。 全ての機能はまだ把握しきれていませんが そのエリアのマップとして、特にタウンマップのような用途に 適しているのではないかと感じています。 普段マッピングしてMapnikで見ているだけだと、レンダリングに無関係なタグを 付けるモチベーションが湧きにくい面がありますが このOpenLinkMapは、実際にその場所に行く、という利用シーンを想定して 作られているため、opening_hours,contact:phone,website,smoking,wikipedia,cuisine といったタグや近くのバス停など、実際にそこに行きたい人にとって 必要な情報が表示されるため、細かいタグのマッピングのし甲斐があります。 データの更新も現在は1日1回くらいの頻度で行われています。 (更新日時が左上あたりに表示されます) ということで、このOpenLinkMapの日本語化を始めたのですが ちょっと手が回らなくなってしまい 可能な方がいればお手伝い頂けないかというお願いです。 タグを大量に訳さなければならないので、タグの勉強にもなります :) 作業は下記2点です。 1.Wikiページの最新可 英語ページがかなり更新されているので http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLinkMap これに合せて日本語ページを最新化する。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:OpenLinkMap 2.ウェブサイトの日本語化 ローカライズ用のソースファイルが2つあるのですが、 共同作業できるように(wikiだと改行などが乱れるので) google docsに置きました。 インデント、改行、空白数などの整形は行わずに そのままのレイアウトで編集お願いします。 1)ja.js https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LPx5k0zBHzvjpJosJmeWiuVxc69mt2anGejo7XjWdI8/edit : をはさんで右側の英語を日本語に置き換えてください。 変数はそのまま残してください。 <例> 【変更前】 'errorLoadingGML': Error in loading GML file ${url}, 【変更後】 'errorLoadingGML': GMLファイル ${url} をロード中にエラー, 2)ja.php https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RCP4mtNQ2S1op642gDEktwMajbjkRpNkR3ri-CFzB3E/edit 配列内各要素の右側にある英語を日本語に置き換えてください。 <例> 【変更前】 open = now open, 【変更後】 open = 開店中, 以上、よろしくお願いします。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] Yahoo/ALPSデータの一部タグ整理について
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 09:02:23PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: いいだです。 明日か明後日くらいには一次回答しちゃいたいな、って思います。 ちょっと強引かもしれませんが、 いまのところの意見をまとめるとこんなかんじ? ・yh: WIDTHは残す。変換は行わない。 参考値なので、widthの値が実測できたら手動で消す。 noteタグに情報を残すことも考えましたが、 このオペレーションはインポート情報のwikiページに書いておけば十分かな。。。 ・その他の yh:*タグはすべて消去 あたりで良いのではないかと思います。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-GB] Footpaths Mapping party - Cranleigh area, Surrey - Sat 13th Oct
Hello everyone, There will be a footpaths mapping party in the Cranleigh area of Surrey on Sat 13th Oct (previously advised about this but now have the date certain). The aim will be to as map as many of the missing footpaths in the area between Cranleigh, Alfold and Dunsfold. Most of Surrey seems complete now but this corner is still missing many footpaths. Meeting point TBC but likely to be in Cranleigh town from around 9.30 - 10am. Will confirm this when I have a venue. Plan will be to map morning and afternoon, with an optional lunch and then meet again in the early evening to review progress. Please note this will be a joint OSM/FOSM event, as some FOSM contributors in Surrey have expressed an interest. The mapping data for the day will be gathered as a public-domain licenced .osm file. This can then be imported into OSM or FOSM as people wish. Please let me know (on this list or privately) if you are interested so that I have an idea of numbers. Thanks, Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Acceptability of data sources for road names
On 30/09/12 10:59, Donald Noble wrote: And one other that doesn't fit on this continuum is asking a local resident what the name of the new road is. This seems completely obviously ok to me, why would you think otherwise? I too have wondered about signs with maps on them. The thing is, you can't copyright facts, but databases are a special exception. Is a sign with a few road names on it a database? I would say no. But IANAL. -- Borbus. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Acceptability of data sources for road names
Small cautionary note on Housing development sales boards. Development names may well be different from local authority final names. In my patch we have had a development known as Capstone Heights with that name on all the development signs including maps. However the local authority allocated the street name 'Ward View'. The OSM name has to be the road sign name. For rural road and path names I'd be tempted to use OS 1:25k or 1:10k, with the more extreme nerds going down the county record office to check the mid- nineteenth century tithe map (very large scale with all paths, woods and fields named). Paulbiv On Sunday 30 Sep 2012 12:51:43 Lester Caine wrote: Donald Noble wrote: I would appreciate some opinions on acceptable data sources for road names when out surveying, particularly thinking about new housing developments here, but could apply elsewhere too. Of the six data sources below, the first and last are pretty black and white OK and not OK respectively, but what about the shades of grey in between? 1. Road sign saying Main Street 2. Sign on house door 6 Main Street 3. Information board with map labelling road as Main Street 4. Housing development sales board with map labelling road as Main Street 5. Map on housing development sales website labelling road as Main Street 6. Commercial map of new housing development labelling road as Main Street And one other that doesn't fit on this continuum is asking a local resident what the name of the new road is. I suppose this also applies to other information too, although perhaps with additional caveats, especially if it is rarely available on signs on the ground. Sorry if this has been covered before, but I've not come across it. World Wide this is a continual debate, where different translations and 'changes of ethnicity' result in roads being CALLED something different ;) The rule is 'map what is on the ground', so road signs rule, but there may well be alternative versions, such as two languages - welsh creates some fun. If a house door has details on then that should be tagged against the house. It may actually be different to the street sign :) OFFICIAL new street names are created by the local council and logged with their LLPG officer who will update the NLPG at regular intervals. Streets form their own register at http://www.thensg.org.uk ... NOW we just need free access to it and a bot that can cross check that all of the entries exist in OSM :) THAT is a request I've put through on the open data questionair, but if we all ask? In the meantime, the local council have to make the data available under open access, so the information is freely available locally. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes
On 27 September 2012 17:42, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.comwrote: As I mentioned earlier on it was speed limits for roundabouts along a dual carriageway that led to me doing a bit of research on UK speed limit legislation. My 'notes' are below http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu/UK_Speed_Limits A roundabout does not meet the given definition of a dual carriageway provided by legislation, and therefore is classified as a single carriageway road. Therefore a NSL roundabout can either be a NSL Restricted road or NSL single carriageway road speed limit. Recently spotted that my satnav already new this. That does make sense. Slip road connected to dual carriageways also does not meet the definition of a dual carriageway. Slip roads on motorways are not covered by NSL legislation. The whole motorway network, which includes the slip roads, is deliberately outside NSL legislation. Motorways are special roads with separate legislation. If the slips roads are part of the Motorway Network then they're special roads covered the Motorway Legislation with a maxspeed for cars of 70 mph. Thanks for the clarification. So what about slip roads on non-motorway dual-carriageways? Are these 70mph or 60mph in your view? Things can be different in Scotland. I concentrated on reading 'English' legislation and case law. Having read legislation and case law I'm happy to argue that British speed limit law is a mess. Once you understand the foibles of the legislation you'll start spotting stretches of road where signs are wrong or missing. The link below shows locations of street lighting around a junction. http://goo.gl/maps/I8uhr (yellow for lighting for main road, and orange for lighting of runabout which is technically a separate section of road.) There are clearly sections of road with 3 more street lamps that mean that unless otherwise signed the stretches of road are 'NSL Restricted' with speed limits for cars of 30mph. Roads leading up to the lighting are NSL single carriageway with speed limits cars of 60 mph. Legislation states there should be signs clearly advising you that NSL Restricted begins or small signs reminding you NSL single lane carries on, but they are missing (I haven't spotted nsl signs while driving or when double checking today using StreetView). Therefore the speed limit defaults to NSL Restricted. Since drivers would expect a sign for a change in speed limit they are unlikely to slow down to the NSL Restricted speed limit. Lack of signs for any other change in speed limit would mean it would be impossible to prosecute, but signs are not needed for NSL Restricted road and there is case law to support this. A problem for drivers, and for people trying to map speed limits. I believe that when one starts finding errors on the ground it is a good indicator that you are getting good at what you are doing! Putting aside my little rant about missing speed limit signs, I think we could do with proper page giving some advice of speed limits if we intend to map them. Or just roll the details into the speed limits or maxspeed articles for now as the same sort of questions are likely to appear in other countries? Thanks, Peter Jason ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?
Hello, John makes some excellent points. The key to making this work would be to prioritize it. Otherwise, it's a neverending Remap-a-Tron. I don't have any strong feelings about how that should be done. I'm sure someone will come up with an excellent way to do that. Charlotte. At 02:33 PM 9/29/2012, you wrote: Statements that we should fix all the unedited TIGER data express a Great Idea. They are, however, rather ambitious statements, and will require more than a few weeks to completely realize. As such, cleaning up US TIGER data is a Long Term goal, and does not say anything regarding how we might prioritize and coordinate work to realize this goal. Given the size of the effort, it's crucial that work is organized in smaller, more bite-sized pieces, so that we can all celebrate the completion every few weeks of a portion of the work. Here are some suggestions: Order US counties by population, largest first, review primary, secondary and tertiary ways (NE2 and other have been systematically reviewing interstates and other number routes over the last few months), compare with TIGER 2012, correct way attributes, and register road geometry to aerial photography or Order US counties by population, largest first, and review all ways (in way class order) that have not been edited in the last six months, compare with TIGER 2012, correct way attributes, and register road geometry to aerial photography or I will also point out that the connectivity errors I mentioned earlier are, in fact, largely a result of unedited TIGER data (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_fixuphttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_fixup, for example) and do present a well defined subset of issues to focus upon. A secondary, and perhaps less obvious, benefit of addressing road network connectivity issues is the significant increase in quality of routes generated by tools such as OSRM (http://project-osrm.org/http://project-osrm.org/). There exists significant interest on OSM as a data source for routing and navigation applications (http://www.slideshare.net/dnesbitt61/sotm-us-routinghttp://www.slideshare.net/dnesbitt61/sotm-us-routing, and others), and showing progress in this area could be a large boost to the rate of OSM adoption. In any case, it's important to come to agreement on a set of constrained, well defined short term goals that demonstrate steady progress to help keep everyone engaged and motivated. Best, On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter mailto:techl...@techlady.comtechl...@techlady.com wrote: I also think it would be great, if we could focus on unedited TIGER. That would clean up the map a lot. There may be some technical challenges, but overal it would be a good thing. I know someone suggested roads without a name, though I think there was discussion that would be technically difficult and also might produce a lot of focus on country roads and tracks that never have had a name. However, if we limit it to roads changed by the redaction, that might be one way to restore the names from TIGER that were lost. Some things I would like to see in the future include editing all the national parks. I know that there is data on their Web sites, which, I think, is all public domain. That would be a good thing to do. Best, Charlotte At 12:40 AM 9/29/2012, you wrote: I think the most necessary cleanup to the USA OSM data is to clean up all the crazy unedited original Tiger roads. These can easily be identified simply as those ways that have a name but are still the original Tiger data and have not been edited. (except for the balrog-kun bot). You could just identify spots not closer together than (say) 1 mile and that would allow the editor to have a nice piece of real estate to clean up each time. It is quite fun doing this since (with the help of TIGER 2012) overlay and Bing imagery, it is usually possible to determine which road goes where and you see an enormous improvement in the map for relatively small efforts. If the remap-a-tron identifies an area where all the original; TIGER data was correct, then no problems, we just flag it as good and move on, but at least that area has now been eyeballed by a real person who probably will be able to add in a few new TIGER 2012 roads if they have the overlay active. ___ Talk-us mailing list mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.orgTalk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 tel:%2B1-310-597-4040+1-310-597-4040 mailto:techl...@techlady.comtechl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady The Four Internet Freedoms Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network
Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?
On 9/30/2012 12:10 AM, Brian May wrote: And maybe have different remapatron modes, e.g. crazy tiger mode, streets with no name mode, and empty hoods mode. Yes - The empty hoods mode lends itself to importing the empty hood directly from the TIGER data. We all complain about TIGER errors, and the risk of using an abbreviation expansion bot, but I'm quite sure that I make more typos per hundred roads than we'd ever see by using the area import with even a dumb expansion bot. That's even with a double check before uploading; I'm wasting my mapper time proofreading rather than checking geometry or gathering survey data. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?
Another suggestion: motorways and trunks without lanes=number tags - Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - not working for me
On 09/29/2012 02:18 PM, Alan wrote: Anyone else run across this? I wonder if something may have changed in the last year in the mkgmap output or something like that. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks I think it's still using the exact same mkgmap. The binary's modification time is March 2010. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Portland Transit -- TriMet
i encourage everyone going to portland to take a look at the trimet trip planner at trimet.org it's built on OSM, it's very well done, and it's convinced me that i don't need to rent a car in Portland. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Portland Transit -- TriMet
Plus, there's going to be an interesting talk on the schedule about the trip planner and the headway OSM has made in Portland, in part as a part of this project. http://stateofthemap.us/#schedule/trimet%27s-openstreetmap-improvement-project-for-opentripplanner Also a more general 'state of the map' in Portland: http://stateofthemap.us/#schedule/the-state-of-the-portland-map Really exciting stuff if you ask me. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i encourage everyone going to portland to take a look at the trimet trip planner at trimet.org it's built on OSM, it's very well done, and it's convinced me that i don't need to rent a car in Portland. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Portland Transit -- TriMet
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Plus, there's going to be an interesting talk on the schedule about the trip planner and the headway OSM has made in Portland, in part as a part of this project. A little sorry I'm not going to be able to make it considering how much effort I helped put into the cycleway network mapping there. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - not working for me
On 09/30/2012 07:21 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote: On Sep 30, 2012 4:26 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net mailto:d...@sr71.net wrote: On 09/29/2012 02:18 PM, Alan wrote: Anyone else run across this? I wonder if something may have changed in the last year in the mkgmap output or something like that. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks I think it's still using the exact same mkgmap. The binary's modification time is March 2010. Could mkgmap be choking on differently-formatted planet files since ODbL switch? It's possible... Could folks that are having trouble try some single tiles or a set generated directly from Lambertus's site? http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - not working for me
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 17:48 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: my Nuvi is relatively new (about 2 years old). how old is the firmware on your Nuvi? Mine is rather old. Not sure about the date, but probably at least 5 years old. It just says Nuvi 200, software version 5.00, GPS SW Version 2.20b. Next I'll try Dave's suggestion of going straight to Lambertus's site. - Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?
Alan Millar wrote: Another suggestion: motorways and trunks without lanes=number tags - Alan I'd help out with that. Alexander ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?
Also a good one. I will make a list of all the suggestions some time this week. There's some low hanging fruit here, and some more complex ideas. I don't know when I will have time to implement the next level, I hope to have something up before Portland. Any help is appreciated! Martijn On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Millar wrote: Another suggestion: motorways and trunks without lanes=number tags - Alan I'd help out with that. Alexander ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us