Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Borne de vidange et d'alimentation pour camping cars et/ou bateaux
Je ressort un vieux sujet ;) Le 19 août 2013 à 18:37, Yves Pratter yves.prat...@laposte.net mailto:yves.prat...@laposte.net a écrit : Quels attributs utiliser pour ce genre de bornes ? Elles peuvent fournir ± les services suivants : eau électricité vidange WC chimiques vidange d'eaux usées http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eaux_us%C3%A9es Il existe maintenant (?) amenity=sanitary_dump_station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=sanitary_dump_station et sa version fluviale/maritime waterway=sanitary_dump_station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway=sanitary_dump_station En voici une dans l’aire de camping cars de Métabief (25) : amenity=sanitary_dump_station fee=yes water_point=yes mapillary=la2Cp3Dy6wsnh2vyjOrZSQ http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/la2Cp3Dy6wsnh2vyjOrZSQ Quel clés utiliser pour sa petite soeur qui ne fournit que de l’électricité ? amenity=power_supply ? (il n’y en a que 14 dans TagInfo http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=power_supply) fee=yes mapillary=60UkppqdSYaueuZWk3KOvg http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/60UkppqdSYaueuZWk3KOvg Merci d’avance pour vos commentaires :) — Yves___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
Hello: I've done some partial work on collecting / writing some scripts that work with the current canvec plus shape files. If you want I can send you a copy. Currently it breaks the files down into the various layers i.e. building, waterway, hydro lines. The idea was that you could pick and choose what data layer you wanted. I haven't touched the scripts in a couple of months, so I'm not sure exactly where I'm at with them. Andrew On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 14:38 -0400, Daniel Begin wrote: Bonjour Andrew, Good initiative! And it will be perfect if you add all necessary links to good practices/warnings about imports!-) I had a look at Canvec+ details (a). - The prepackaged files (250K tiles) are going to be quite large since, from what I understand, they have merged together all (16) underneath 50K. - Custom “areas of interest” might be difficult to manage for data import. - Proposed file formats are similar to what it used to be with standard Canvec, but it does not include OSM format :-( About the script(s) used to convert Canvec to OSM, they were built using FME workbenches linked together with batch files (so, obviously not open source). Best regards, Daniel a) http://geogratis.gc.ca/site/eng/whats-new/intro-canvec -Original Message- From: Andrew MacKinnon [mailto:andrew...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 14:04 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Borne de vidange et d'alimentation pour camping cars et/ou bateaux
Mes deux eurocentimes ;-) 1) Attention : - fait partie de propositions de 2009 (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:power_supply) - fait pour tout un camp Dont un chemin : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/89153197 Parmi les propositions : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site power_supply http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_supply=/cee_17_blue/ Describing the power socket for. This means P+N+E,6h according to IEC60309 but see power_supply http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_supply=* for other values. Mais c'est pour tout un camp, ici c'est une borne payante à part. 2) Tu as pensé à : amenity=charging_station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station socket:cee_blue=1 3) (jamais 2 sans 3) : je n'étais pas sur la liste en 2013, je suis donc neutre (est-on en phase ?). Ceci est un jeu de mot, pour ceux qui seraient pas au courant. Jean-Yvon* * Le 23/07/2015 22:52, Yves Pratter - yves.prat...@gmail.com a écrit : Je ressort un vieux sujet ;) Le 19 août 2013 à 18:37, Yves Pratter yves.prat...@laposte.net mailto:yves.prat...@laposte.net a écrit : Quels attributs utiliser pour ce genre de bornes ? Elles peuvent fournir ± les services suivants : * eau * électricité * vidange WC chimiques * vidange d'eaux usées http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eaux_us%C3%A9es Il existe maintenant (?) amenity=sanitary_dump_station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:amenity=sanitary_dump_station et sa version fluviale/maritime waterway=sanitary_dump_station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway=sanitary_dump_station En voici une dans l’aire de camping cars de Métabief (25) : * amenity=sanitary_dump_station * fee=yes * water_point=yes * mapillary=la2Cp3Dy6wsnh2vyjOrZSQ http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/la2Cp3Dy6wsnh2vyjOrZSQ Quel clés utiliser pour sa petite soeur qui ne fournit que de l’électricité ? * amenity=power_supply ? (il n’y en a que 14 dans TagInfo http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=power_supply) * fee=yes * mapillary=60UkppqdSYaueuZWk3KOvg http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/60UkppqdSYaueuZWk3KOvg Merci d’avance pour vos commentaires :) — Yves ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding
Any objections? Of course not! Your overview of the situation worldwide is pretty exhaustive, and is in line with most comments, consideration, that were expressed so far. However, as I suggested in an earlier email, I would keep the topic alive for a couple of weeks, just to make sure everyone that may feel concerned about the subject have a chance to comment (since it is summer time). Unless there are backlashes from some contributors, I propose to keep everything as is until the end of august and then move forward to update definitions and data. Does everyone comfortable with it? Daniel From: Tristan Anderson [mailto:andersontris...@hotmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 17:18 To: Daniel Begin; 'Stewart C. Russell'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding So it seems like we're coming to some agreement. The current Canadian definition based on that 2005 document should be replaced with something else that is consistent with the rest of the world. Once we find this new definition, the appropriate wiki pages should be updated. I took a look around the world and finally saw some consistency in how trunk tags are used. Stewart's guidelines are basically correct, but I think I can hammer out a more specific description. There are two types of roads with are both usually tagged highway=trunk: (1) Limited access highways. This is a physical description for a road that has some of the characteristics of a motorway. They are often dual carriageways of fairly high speed. (2) Highways connecting distant population centres. This is a functional description for a road where used by cars and heavy trucks travelling long distances or between major cities. Although usually two lanes, in more remote areas these roads may have very light traffic, be unpaved, or be slow. In some parts of the world, like Germany, France and the eastern United States, all trunk roads are type (1) because long-distance travel is generally done on their dense networks of motorways. Conversely, in large swathes of Australia and Canada, as well as in much of the developing world, all trunk roads are type (2) because type (1) doesn't exist. The only country I noticed that doesn't follow the above scheme is Britain (actually just England and Wales), ironically the birthplace of the trunk. The designation there is used quite liberally, including even short roads connecting small towns and quite a few of of London's city streets. Just look at England at zoom level 5 and observe how unusually green it is. I suggest using the international model, with types (1) and (2) above being tagged as trunks in Canada. This won't change much as it largely coincides with how roads are already tagged. The wiki pages can be updated accordingly then we can look at specific roads in BC and Québec! Any objections? From: jfd...@hotmail.com To: scr...@gmail.com; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:08:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding Thank Russel, Your description is pretty close of the one I had in mind (about trunks) before I found the Canadian definition was referring to the mentioned document. Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 08:44 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding The definition of trunk is a difficult one, if based on the UK understanding. Like its unwritten constitution, trunk roads in the UK are more on a know it when I see it basis. Pretty much the only definitions I can think of that would be generally applicable are: * a trunk road goes from one city/town to another. * no parking at the side of the road. * something above the urban speed limit applies (though there are often nasty brief exceptions, like a roughly 200m stretch of 30 mph that used to adorn the A80, dammit). A trunk road isn't always dual carriageway. It can have traffic lights, roundabouts or (rare, in the UK) stop signs. Depending on its age, it may bypass towns and villages. Older trunk roads may also have all the usual roads entering it, while newer ones are likely to have on-ramps. In summary, the UK definition is so riddled with unwritten exceptions that trying to apply it rigorously in even one province in Canada will be frustrating. And no matter what you do, you'll always get some rogue user that comes along and adds their own tagging. It's a sair fecht cheers, Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding
~~ Un résumé français suit ~~ Bonjour all, The few comments we got so far show that most of us, but not all, are uncomfortable with the “strategic” approach causing inconsistent descriptions of actual road “object” within Canada and between CA/US borders. Since it is summer, I will keep the discussion alive for a while to make sure all interested people made their point. Join the conversation whenever you want :-) We are waiting for more comments… Daniel Ps: comments received off-list will stay off-list – Please join the actual conversation J En résumé, je questionne la façon d’attribuer le tag ‘trunk’ aux routes principales tel que proposé dans un document gouvernemental (a) cité dans le wiki (c) et propose de clarifier la documentation une fois un consensus obtenu. Les commentaires reçu à date vont pour la plupart (mais pas tous) dans le sens qu’une définition de type ‘’stratégique’’ (une route est importante pour l’économie d’une région) produit des résultats inconsistants par rapport à la perception qu’offre la carte par rapport aux ‘’infrastructures’’ qui la supporte (les routes ‘’trunk’’ à Toronto, sur la Côte-Nord ou au Yukon sont très différentes les unes des autres alors que les autres classes de routes sont similaires à la grandeur du pays) – bref la description ‘’physique’’ serait plus appropriée. Vos commentaires sont bienvenus a) http://www.comt.ca/english/NHS-report-english.pdf b) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence c) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: July-22-15 16:44 To: 'Paul Norman'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding Bonjour Paul, You actually highlight what makes me uncomfortable with the “strategic” approach applied in many part of Canada. You are concerned about the road network in BC; I am concerned about the network in QC. Until few months ago, there were no trunk here; they are now everywhere. IMO, OSM classification mostly aims at describing the road infrastructures, not the strategic/economic importance a local government says about them (almost quoted you!-). I understand that Tristan has similar concerns about the consequences of such approach in road classification; even if he suggested that the current definitions (using strategic approach) are good guidelines (but need not be followed religiously). Other comments on the subject Daniel From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: July-22-15 15:59 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding On 7/22/2015 11:43 AM, Daniel Begin wrote: So far, I understand we have 2.5 votes for tagging trunk/motorway all roads identified as “core route” in document (a); 0.5 against (I am still torn between the two approaches!-) More comments would be appreciated Such an approach would be inconsistent with how highways are tagged in BC and expectations of locals. It would also make BC quite different than across the boarder in Washington. I can think of several motorways and trunk roads which are not on the list in the PDF, and many of the roads on the list are primary, or in at least one case, secondary. Some of the roads not on the list are more important in the transportation network than ones on it. The criteria being proposed are also inherently unverifiable. We map the world, not what a government database says. What about new roads? There's a new route that's opened up, and it's a mix of trunk and motorway, but it's not listed in the NHS report. To tag it primary when less significant roads constructed to a lower standard are tagged as trunk and motorway would be absurd. Because it has a lot of freight, it probably will become a NHS road at some point. Does its classification magically change when nothing has changed on the ground? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Il va y avoir du mouvement dans tout ce domaine dans les années qui viennent... Entre les voitures sans conducteur, et les différentes assistances à la conduite qui vont de plus en plus se perfectionner (la conduite automatique sur autoroute développée par Audi est bluffante) le besoin en données haute-définition va pousser les constructeurs automobile ou les équipementiers (Bosch par exemple) à investir le domaine des données géographique. Here (ex Nokia, ex Navteq) risque fort d'être racheté par Mercédès/BMW/Audi. J'ai peur que la logique de partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux... Le 23/07/2015 13:33, David Crochet a écrit : Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
zdar, chtěl bych si udělat mapku výletu, poradí někdo prosím nějaký jednoduchý udělátor, kde by si šlo různě označit cesty a body, resp. přidat vlastní, a napsat k tomu legendu? obtahovat čáry na obrázku v GIMPu apod. se mi tak úplně nechce :-) Tak, zcela jistě by takovou věc šlo naprogramovat v Leafletu viz odpověď na jiném místě threadu nebo OpenLayers... hmm, KML example se mi líbí, že bych si požadované cesty připravil a vyexportoval třeba v Merkaartoru a jenom mu podhodil svůj datový soubor jen tam teda nevidím, jak si napsat tu legendu, ale to bych kdyžtak připlácl staticky jenže když jsem zkoušel Export map example, tak mi to žádnou mapu ke stažení nevygenerovalo tak asi zase nic, do debugování tohoto se mi vůbec nechce :-/ K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-pt] 5ª OSM Party de Albergaria-a-Velha - Angeja
Parabéns ! Coloquei também a data no wiki : - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page Um ótimo dia e boa Mapping Party. - Mail original - From: Rita Melo rita.m...@cm-albergaria.pt To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 23/07/2015 14:09:00 Subject: [Talk-pt] 5ª OSM Party de Albergaria-a-Velha - Angeja Bom dia, Junto reenvio convite para a 5ª OSM Party de Albergaria-a-Velha, pedindo desde já desculpa pois por problemas no servidor de email inicialmente enviado não foi publicado na lista. No próximo dia 25 de julho (das 9h30 às 18h) o município de Albergaria-a-Velha organiza, em conjunto com a Junta de Freguesia de Angeja a “ 5ª OSM Party de Albergaria-a-Velha - Angeja ” , uma atividade inserida no movimento “Vamos mapear Portugal”. Este ano o evento será realizado na freguesia de Angeja, contando com a colaboração da Junta de Freguesia de Angeja e o apoio da empresa XLM - Innovation Technology e a associação OSGeoPT - Associação de Software Aberto para Sistemas de Informação Geográfica. Desafiamos-te a fazeres parte da nossa equipa e connosco construíres o mapa livre de Albergaria-a-Velha. Vamos juntos mapear Angeja! Inscreve-te já através do email: s...@cm-albergaria.pt Local do evento: 40º40’41,42’’N | 8º33’4,97’’ W (Junta de Freguesia de Angeja) Ana Rita Melo Sistemas de Informação Geográfica DPGURU - CM ALBERGARIA-A-VELHA rita.m...@cm-albergaria.pt AVISO Esta mensagem e quaisquer anexos seus podem conter informação confidencial para uso exclusivo do destinatário. Cabe ao destinatário a verificação de vírus e outras medidas que assegurem que esta mensagem não afecta os seus sistemas. Se não for o destinatário, não poderá usar, distribuir ou copiar este e-mail, devendo proceder à sua eliminação e informar o emissor. É estritamente proibido o uso, a distribuição, a cópia ou qualquer forma de disseminação não autorizada deste e-mail e seus anexos. Obrigado DISCLAIMER This e-mail and its attachments may contain confidential information for exclusive use of its recipient. It is your responsability to carry out appropriate virus and other checks to ensure that this message and any attachments do not affect your systems / data. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, distribute or reproduce this e-mail and you must notify the sender and delete the entire email. Any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and its attachments is striclty prohibited. Thank you. P Antes de imprimir este e-mail pense bem se é necessário fazê-lo. Before printing this e-mail think if it is necessary. ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
A co třeba Viking? Radek Šťastný ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
En parlant de logique de partage chez les constructeurs automobiles, a-t-on une idée du nombre de GPS embarqués permettant d'exporter les traces après un parcours? Le 23 juillet 2015 14:26, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Il va y avoir du mouvement dans tout ce domaine dans les années qui viennent... Entre les voitures sans conducteur, et les différentes assistances à la conduite qui vont de plus en plus se perfectionner (la conduite automatique sur autoroute développée par Audi est bluffante) le besoin en données haute-définition va pousser les constructeurs automobile ou les équipementiers (Bosch par exemple) à investir le domaine des données géographique. Here (ex Nokia, ex Navteq) risque fort d'être racheté par Mercédès/BMW/Audi. J'ai peur que la logique de partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux... Le 23/07/2015 13:33, David Crochet a écrit : Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-cat] Metro de Terrassa
Entra en funcionament el dia 29. A partir del 25 ja comencen a modificar els horaris. O sigui que dimarts a la tarda ja es pot anar tocant les coses. El dia 10 de juliol de 2015, 21:56, yo paseopor yopaseo...@gmail.com ha escrit: No és per ser impacient, però tenir-ho preparat tipus construction o test pel dia que estigui obert canviar propietats i pimpam no estaria de més ;) 2015-07-10 21:15 GMT+02:00 Jan Esquerra jan.esque...@gmail.com: no encara, està previst per finals de mes El dia 10 de juliol de 2015, 17:55, yo paseopor yopaseo...@gmail.com ha escrit: He llegit això a premsa. Està en marxa? Algú s'hi posa ? http://www.elperiodico.cat/ca/noticias/societat/terrassa-inaugurara-seu-metro-cinc-anys-mes-tard-del-previst-4344519 Salut i metro yopaseopor ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat -- *Carlos Sánchez*About.me http://about.me/carlos.sanchez ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags vides
Le 23/07/2015 08:06, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Le 23/07/2015 01:49, Guillaume AMAT a écrit : Mais, si le tag existait déjà (name = toto) et que je le vide dans le formulaire... Je le supprime du node ou je l'envoie vide (chaîne de caractère vide) ? Alors alors ?! dev...@openstreetmap.org ;) Hélène Tu le supprime, on ne met jamais un tag avec une valeur vide. Ce qu'on renvoie à l'API c'est la nouvelle version de l'objet, donc on remet tout les tags (sans oublier bien sûr ceux qu'on n'a pas changé) sauf ceux qui n'existent plus (plus de name, plus de tag name). Oui, c'est plus une question pour la liste dev, mais une peu de culture générale technique pour tous c'est bien aussi ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] C / CC
Come mai qui compare (automaticamente) la singola C di copyright invece che CC BY-SA? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Mayuresh, I didn't say the model you suggested is not accurate. The model I had was not accurate(this is in 2010). If the reviews in amzon other place say it is accurate go for it. I know Moto G is good,very fast to lock even in somewhat indoor, error is less but less straight line stability than samsung . I mean if you go in a car straight but with MOTO you get zig-zagged line (error is 3-4 m only). I tried Moto E gps(1 st generation) earlier, for a small test only, it was slow to lock. I am not sure about second generation. I also don't use any smart phone (I use a tablet only for navigation and osm mapping). Regards Sunil On 07/23/2015 04:58 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello Sunil, If, as per what you're saying, the dedicated GPS units aren't as accurate as the GPS modules found on cell phones, then it would make better sense to invest in a cell phone. You've suggested the Moto G; may I solicit your (and others) opinion about the Moto E 2nd Gen? Reason being it's smaller and easier to handle than the Moto G. I anyways need to exit the old world of feature phones and enter the bold new world of smartphones. :-) Thanks, ~Mayuresh On 2015-07-23 03:32 PM, Sunil K wrote: Dear Mayuresh, I used a Garmin device in 2010 I don't remember its model(it cost me 100 euro, but the accuracy was less). But it have a gpx logging feature. Resultant gpx can be copied to computer via usb, then josm to upload. There are 2-3 things to look for 1. easy to enter POIs (may be voice recording), is most important 2. ability to use OSM maps (There was a way to convert OSM maps to garmin format), because if the map is already there no need to again map it. 3. Is the accuracy() If these are there, then this device is ok. Checkout Columbus V990 suggested by Paramvir (It have voice recording feature) I know one guy who uses modified osmtracker+ bt headset with voice cancellation to capture POIs on a Moto G. I use a samsung galaxy tab 7+ which is much more accurate the garmin I had (but usually no harsh terrain, except my daughter, it survived with colorful lines on screen) Hope others also give there experiences. Regards Sunil Regards Sunil On 07/23/2015 02:55 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hi Sunil, Thanks for the response. I would prefer to go for a standalone GPS unit like the Garmin eTrex 20 because I can use it under any weather conditions (which can get difficult with a smartphone). While living in Uran, my primary task would be to perform mapping activities during the three seasons which present themselves as harsh environmental conditions, i.e. extreme heat, heavy rains and bitter winters (no snow though). So, suppose if I purchase the Garmin eTrex 20 and use it for logging data, would there be any way to; 1. move data off the unit and onto my Chromebook via USB? 2. convert the acquired data to be usable with OSM? 3. easily upload that data to OSM? Basically, since there are just a few local apps under a Chromebook, would there be any web service which can convert the data acquired from the GPS unit to the one which is accepted by OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh On 2015-07-23 02:42 PM, Sunil K wrote: Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM?
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
Dne Čt 23. července 2015 12:20:15, Radek Šťastný napsal(a): A co třeba Viking? hmmm ... tak ten mi teď segfaultnul ještě než se mi podařilo dostat se s výřezem mapy do míst, co mě zajímají :-( K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
'hoj, 1) Google maps / drive. to já nerad [je třeba rozebírat to více?] 2) Lze si udělat něco vlastního s použitím Leaflet.js http://leafletjs.com/ Dá se s tím udělat všechno viz výše, na vlastních stránkách / vlastním serveru (ocení milovníci samostatnosti!), plus WMS/TMS tuším, a tak vůbec obecně je to něco s čím lze manipulovat programově, takže není nutné narážet na náhodná omezení. Není to ale i pro babičku a maminku, pro ty leda na koukání. Eventuálně existuje plugin pro wordpress, který usnadňuje některé úkony... zběžným náhledem mám dojem, že je to zaměřeno spíše na práci nad mapovými dlaždicemi ... jednotlivé cesty bych tam mohl nacpat přes nějaký ten GeoJSON (čtvrtý+pátý example), ale to už se mi jeví složitě jak parní mlátička (zejména z hlediska přípravy dat) na mého vrabce je to příliš velký kanón :-( K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des arbres municipaux sur Nice
Certains imports sont à bien peser... @Jérôme: ces données ont un intérêt, certes, mais leur disponibilité en opendata permet déjà tout les usages que tu as listé. La question de l'entretien et de la mise à jour des données est celle qu'il faut à mon avis se poser après celle de la qualité des données qu'on envisage d'importer. Qualité: qui a vérifié avec un échantillonnage sur le terrain qu'elles étaient précises et à jour ? Quelle espoir de les voir mises à jour par le producteur et quid de l'intégration de ces mises à jour ? Entretien: qu'en disent les contributeurs locaux ? Ce sont eux qui vont en priorité pouvoir entretenir des données aussi détaillées. Le 23/07/2015 00:37, JB a écrit : Le 22/07/2015 16:36, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Après, je me pose la question de l'intérêt d'importer une zone comme ça, avec des arbres espacés de moins de 1m : http://hpics.li/85d8ec5. Il y en a plusieurs. Tu aurais des statistiques de distances ? Moi et QGis, on essaye de s'aimer, mais c'est pas toujours facile. À part compliquer la contribution, foirer le rendu, rendre impossible toute correction humaine ultérieure Je vois pas comment les corrections ne serait pas faisable... L'import a un intérêt pour la gestion des arbres. Les arbres plantés en touffe à moins d'un mètre c'est une réalité du terrain aussi... Oui, certes. Mais si tu mets 5 minutes à trouver dans les données quel arbre a été abattu, parce qu'il y en a 52 dans la zone, que le gps n'est pas assez précis, qu'il faut compter à partir de la bordure nord-est, mais qu'ils sont pas alignés, du coup ça marche pas. Chaque pavé d'une rue, c'est une réalité. Chaque arbre des forêts aussi. Pourtant, c'était une blague à la mode il y a pas si longtemps. Il y a d'autres façons de cartographier pour ça : landuse, landcover. Pour une commune l'intérêt est de gérer les plantations. Il me semble qu'avec l'age on peut aussi déterminer des arbres remarquables. Quand à la hauteur c'est plus dur à déterminer et à maintenir dans le temps. Sauf mettre la date de la prise de la hauteur car elle évolue dans le temps. Oui, ils ont même parfois un SIG pour gérer ça. Mais c'est pas un argument pour rentrer toutes les données dans OSM. Ca a aussi un intérêt environnemental: - étude des pollens - accueille de la faune Un intérêt patrimonial, paysager, ... On pourrait aussi gérer l'état de santé même si rien n'existe pour le moment dans OSM mais là on est plus dans la gestion. Peut être avec des ref=* pour gérer l'abattage d’arbres dangereux et l'élagage ajouter un facteur de croissance automatique par espèce pour déterminer un planning prévisionnel d'entretien. Bref les possibilités sont grandes même si certains n'en trouve pas l'intérêt. Bof, change le mot « intérêt » en « inconvénients dépassent les avantages ». ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] name principale vette montagna su confini nazionali + confini nazionali
Ciao a tutti. Mi agiungo al post sul name dei monti. Il Val Pellice (To) zona di confine ci sono alcune cime con nome prettamente francese. Ovviamente anche qui la disputa è storica, anche se il francese risulta una lingua parlata nelle valli Valdesi Italiane. Ho in programma per l'estate l'escursione sul monte Palavas https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Palavas dove manca il sentiero su Osm per raggiungere la vetta. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/44.7906/7.0092 nel link vedete di cosa si tratta. Il monte Palavas è citato con il tag name=tete de pelvas e con i tag name:fr e name:it che ne danno la desinenza nelle rispettive lingue. A mio avviso il tag name=tete de pelvas è superfluo macon è quello che da la precedenza al rendering sulla mappa. Stessa cosa sul colle dell'Urina poco più in basso. Quale è la regola ufficiale in questi casi? Aggiungo ancora la parte riferita ai confini nazionali. Il colle dell'Urina sopra citato è posto esattamente al confine tra i due stati da secoli, vi è ancora il cippo in pietra con il giglio di Francia e lo scudo Sabaudo. Su Osm il confine passa alcuni metri prima. Cosa bisogna fare in questi casi? Spostare il confine o arretrare il colle? Per folklore lascio anche la nota sul monte Bric Bucie (se zoomate un po sul link che vi ho segnalato sopra lo trovate). Oltre che la contesa sul nome, da secoli vi è anche una contesa sull'effettiva altezza del monte stesso. I francesi lo danno come 2997 mt (come è segnato su Osm) mentre per gli italiani da sempre supera i 3000. Ora pare che ufficialmente lo abbiamo declassato al di sotto dei 3000 ma questo rende la diatriba che è sempre avvenuta per le vette di confine.Vi è stata anche una diatriba su chi lo avesse scalato per primo ma pare che almeno in questo noi italiani abbiamo vinto :-) Il 23/07/2015 12:17, talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org ha scritto: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 01:12:32 -0700 (MST) From: Davide Mangraviti davide...@inwind.it To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] name principale vette montagna su confini nazionali Message-ID: 1437639152275-5850726.p...@n5.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Per il massiccio del Monte Rosa ci sono più vette la Punta Dufour va bene chiamarla giustamente Dufourspitze per questi motivi: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punta_Dufour ed è già così: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/414760065 Invece la cima del Monte Bianco si chiama proprio così e anche qui se, si vuole dare il merito della nazionalità a coloro che per primi lo hanno raggiunto, si può pensare che venga chiamato Mont Blancperchè motivi amministrativi non ce ne stanno che io sappia.. ma a sto punto che si faccia una regola che vale sempre! (Nota per chi non c'è mai stato: ma solo da Chamonix si vede la cima del Monte Bianco, dalla parte italiana di Courmayeur si vede quella che si chiama Mont Blanc de Courmayeur... che pure questa ha toponimo francese!! .. e questo i francesi lo fanno pesare tantissimo!...) Simone Saviolo wrote Io non mi intendo di montagna, ma siamo sicuri che il *picco* si chiami Monte Bianco? Mi sembra che di solito i picchi abbiano un nome proprio, e che il monte sia un'entità più grande e vasta che comprende picchi, pareti, canaloni... Penso ad esempio al Monte Rosa, il cui punto più alto (vado a memoria) è la Dufourspitze; in quel caso metterei natural=peak, name=Dufourspitze. Ciao, Simone -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] durée des trajets à vélo dans Paris
Pour GraphHopper : More realistic time estimates for routes #382 https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/382 Take slowdown and accelerating into account #334 https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/334 Improve Bicycle Routing #330 https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/issues/330 (liste non exhaustive) — Yves___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding
The definition of ‘trunk’ is a difficult one, if based on the UK understanding. Like its unwritten constitution, trunk roads in the UK are more on a know it when I see it basis. Pretty much the only definitions I can think of that would be generally applicable are: * a trunk road goes from one city/town to another. * no parking at the side of the road. * something above the urban speed limit applies (though there are often nasty brief exceptions, like a roughly 200m stretch of 30 mph that used to adorn the A80, dammit). A trunk road isn't always dual carriageway. It can have traffic lights, roundabouts or (rare, in the UK) stop signs. Depending on its age, it may bypass towns and villages. Older trunk roads may also have all the usual roads entering it, while newer ones are likely to have on-ramps. In summary, the UK definition is so riddled with unwritten exceptions that trying to apply it rigorously in even one province in Canada will be frustrating. And no matter what you do, you'll always get some rogue user that comes along and adds their own tagging. It's a sair fecht … cheers, Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:01:55 +0200 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: I published new diary entry There is also older entry, primarily about rendering surface tag http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35416 It was not mentioned on this mailing list. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk-fr] Limite maritime
Bonjour, Pouvez-vous me préciser à quelle limite ce chemin correspond ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/31030275#map=12/47.3824/-2.5931 S'il s'agit d'une limite en mer entre les régions Pays de la Loire et Bretagne il y a un hic, car l'île Dumet fait partie de la commune de Piriac-sur-mer en Pays de la Loire. De même le SEMREV (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/209424670 et http://www.semrev.fr/fr/sig) est plutôt porté par les Pays de la Loire, CCI Nantes St Nazaire, et Centrale Nantes. J'ai trouvé ici un document montrant les limites de compétances des préfets maritimes (qui ne sont pas vraiment des limites de régions). On voit que l'allure de la limite dans OSM n'est pas la même. http://www.dirm.sud-atlantique.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/les-limites-maritimes-sur-la-facade-sud-atlantique-r212.html http://www.dirm.sud-atlantique.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/golfe_gascogne_limites_administratives_mai_2011_cle2352de.pdf Le décret en question précise dans son article 1 les coordonnées des points, mais il est noté abrogé sur légifrance. Quoi penser ? http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT00525077categorieLien=cid Question technique HS: par quelle(s) opération(s) de topologie trace-t-on des limites équidistantes A+ Bruno ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Paramvir, I checked out the Columbus V990 and looks like I can go with it, but; 1. where do I source one in Mumbai? 2. would a Blackberry (with aGPS) be a better option? ~Mayuresh On 2015-07-23 02:52 PM, Paramvir Singh wrote: I have a Columbus V990 a very inexpensive device. I use that for track gathering and audio notes at POIs. It's so accurate I don't need anything else. I use GOMap on iPhone for detailed editing of POIs etc. If you have an old Blackberry, install GPSLogger II, a powerhouse app for track gathering and naming POIs on the tracks itself. For Android you can use Vespucci or OSMAnd, though am not a fan of Android. Most of these devices will give you fairly accurate tacks and POIs even if there is no cellular data. That's the reason I bought the Columbus. It's inexpensive and records tracks for 17 hours a day on a single charge. Blackberry has the world's best email experience. On 23-Jul-2015, at 2:42 pm, Sunil K iamsun...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] C / CC
Perche' la mappa e' tutelata dalle leggi del copyright. Che poi si usi una licenza CC-BY-SA o oDBL non vuol dire che non esista un copyright! Il giorno 23 luglio 2015 16:33, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Come mai qui compare (automaticamente) la singola C di copyright invece che CC BY-SA? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi skype: asca_edom ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[talk-ph] 2Go Express
Hi all, Tinycab is trying to add a 2GO Express shop in Cebu [1]. I suggested to use: amenity=post_office operator=2GO Express name=2GO Express He also wants to also include the FedEx service they provide. I could not find any clear method to indicate this (but i found a discussion [2]). I'd like to suggest: amenity=post_office operator=2GO Express;FedEx name=2GO Express FedEx 2GO Express is the operator, they retail FedEx, but I'm not sure this qualifies as operator... Any other/better suggestions ? Cheers, Totor [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32801950 [2] https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/7755/how-do-you-tag-a-courier-company ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-ja] 福岡県沖に、似た島が2つ
こんにちは、奈良の石川です。 福岡県沖に、形もかなり似ていて大きさもそっくり、名前も同じ島が2つ あります (ただし、片方は漢字、片方はローマ字です)。 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/33.9830/130.2830 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/34.2450/130.1070 たまたま同じ名前・同じ大きさ・ほぼ同じ形の島が本当に福岡県に2つ あるのであれば、私の杞憂に終わるのですが、どちらか1島が誤りである 可能性もそこそこありそうな気がしています。前者は Bing 航空写真 にも映っていません。 こういう場合は、どのように対処するのが望ましいでしょうか。 -- 石川 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
On 7/23/2015 8:54 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? Very likely most of them are not released under open licenses. Unfortunately, non-open data gets listed in OpenAddresses and there's no assurance that you can combine data from one source in OpenAddresses with data from another source in it. OpenAddresses is a good fallback source for a geocoder, but I don't know that there are any geocoders that do that yet. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[OSM-talk-be] POIs
Hallo, Regelmatig stoot ik op een artikel i.v.m. dat ik wel interessant vind en met jullie wil delen. (Hopelijk vinden jullie dat niet erg) Hier is er weer zo eentje: http://tlatet.blogspot.be/2015/07/osm-retail-survey-part-1.html Een reeks van 6 artikels al over de volledigheid van POIs in de UK. Joost Schouppe heeft eventjes een vergelijking gemaakt voor Antwerpen: slechts 37 van de 294 bakkers zouden gemapped zijn. Dus als POIs je ding zijn, dan mag je gerust zijn, er is nog werk genoeg :-) --- English --- You know that I often share articles regarding OSM on this mailing list (hope you don't mind). Here's another one: http://tlatet.blogspot.be/2015/07/osm-retail-survey-part-1.html A series of 6 articles on the completeness of POIs in the UK. Joost Schouppe ran a test on bakeries in Antwerp. Only 37 of the 294 bakeries are mapped. So, when you love to map POIs, you'll still have plenty of work :-) regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-ja] Happy Birthday OSM! 8月9日は OpenStreetMap 誕生日です。
ikiyaです。 OenStreetMap11周年、8月9日はOpenStreetMap誕生日です。 2004年8月に英国でスティーブ コーストさんが始めました。 localhost:~ steve$ whois openstreetmap.org | grep 2004 Created On:09-Aug-2004 18:47:25 UTC OSMの成長をお祝いするとともに、感謝の気持ちで誕生会を開催してみてはいかがでしょう。 世界各地でOpenStreetMap Birthday partyが催されることと思います。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
It might be helpful to look at http://openaddresses.io/ which is an project to aggregate address data from various open data portals. More and more cities have open data now. In Ontario openaddresses.io lists: - Burlington - Guelph - Hamilton - Kitchener - Oakville - Toronto - Waterloo - Welland - Windsor Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite maritime
Le 23 juillet 2015 21:00, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : est-ce qu'il ne faudrait pas préciser que le point ajouté http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3663213160 est le point plein Ouest référencé dans : source http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:source?uselang=fr Code rural et de la pêche maritime - Article R*911-3 source:website http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461 http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461 (ref = plein ouest ?) Et un complément d'info (description ?) sur la limite http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46925877/history#map=9/47.1841/-3.2877 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46925877/history#map=9/47.1841/-3.2877 Ça évitera de se poser des questions. OK pas de souci je te laisse faire ! Damouns ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite maritime
Bonjour Le 23/07/2015 15:40, Bruno Cortial a écrit : Quoi penser ? Qu'il est intégré dans un code : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461dateTexte=categorieLien=cid Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Le 23/07/2015 16:12, Christian Quest a écrit : Aucune idée ! Sur mon Tomtom j'avais ajouté un petit utilitaire pour enregistrer le log NMEA... mes premières traces collectées pour OSM ! Je ne sais pas si sur les dernières versions c'est toujours possible. Non, tous les TomTom fabriqués depuis 2010 sont verrouillés, impossible d'ajouter des plug-ins. Jean-Claude ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
It is not the coloring. I would prefer the rendering of motorway and trunk with a outer and a inner line. better: XIX XIX XIX than: XX XX XX ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] U-turns in Map-Matching Algorithm
Hi Patrick, thanks for the clarification. So this check is for the input coordinates, only, right? What if some candidates introduce a U-turn (e.g., due to some outliers in the input data)? Thanks. Best, Matthias On 22/07/15 12:17, Patrick Niklaus wrote: Hey Matthias, What the algorithm at that point does is check if the original trace might contain a U-Turn at that point. If so it does not add separate candidates for each direction (but bidirectional edge based nodes), resulting in the possibility of U-Turns at that position. Hope this helps. Best, Patrick On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Matthias Schwamborn schwamb...@informatik.uos.de wrote: Hi all, looking at the code in plugins/match.hpp [1], I noticed that candidates resulting in a U-turn are allowed but wouldn't you say that these candidates are actually pretty unlikely compared to candidates that don't result in a U-turn? Am I missing something here? Thanks. Best, Matthias [1] https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/master/plugins/match.hpp#L104 -- Matthias Schwamborn University of Osnabrück Tel.: +49-541-969-7167 Institute of Computer Science Fax:+49-541-969-2799 Albrechtstr. 28 E-mail: schwamb...@informatik.uos.de D-49076 Osnabrück, Germany http://cs.uos.de/schwamborn/ ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk -- Matthias Schwamborn University of Osnabrück Tel.: +49-541-969-7167 Institute of Computer Science Fax:+49-541-969-2799 Albrechtstr. 28 E-mail: schwamb...@informatik.uos.de D-49076 Osnabrück, Germany http://cs.uos.de/schwamborn/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding
Thank Russel, Your description is pretty close of the one I had in mind (about trunks) before I found the Canadian definition was referring to the mentioned document. Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 08:44 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding The definition of ‘trunk’ is a difficult one, if based on the UK understanding. Like its unwritten constitution, trunk roads in the UK are more on a know it when I see it basis. Pretty much the only definitions I can think of that would be generally applicable are: * a trunk road goes from one city/town to another. * no parking at the side of the road. * something above the urban speed limit applies (though there are often nasty brief exceptions, like a roughly 200m stretch of 30 mph that used to adorn the A80, dammit). A trunk road isn't always dual carriageway. It can have traffic lights, roundabouts or (rare, in the UK) stop signs. Depending on its age, it may bypass towns and villages. Older trunk roads may also have all the usual roads entering it, while newer ones are likely to have on-ramps. In summary, the UK definition is so riddled with unwritten exceptions that trying to apply it rigorously in even one province in Canada will be frustrating. And no matter what you do, you'll always get some rogue user that comes along and adds their own tagging. It's a sair fecht … cheers, Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Aucune idée ! Sur mon Tomtom j'avais ajouté un petit utilitaire pour enregistrer le log NMEA... mes premières traces collectées pour OSM ! Je ne sais pas si sur les dernières versions c'est toujours possible. Le 23/07/2015 15:16, GarenKreiz a écrit : En parlant de logique de partage chez les constructeurs automobiles, a-t-on une idée du nombre de GPS embarqués permettant d'exporter les traces après un parcours? Le 23 juillet 2015 14:26, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Il va y avoir du mouvement dans tout ce domaine dans les années qui viennent... Entre les voitures sans conducteur, et les différentes assistances à la conduite qui vont de plus en plus se perfectionner (la conduite automatique sur autoroute développée par Audi est bluffante) le besoin en données haute-définition va pousser les constructeurs automobile ou les équipementiers (Bosch par exemple) à investir le domaine des données géographique. Here (ex Nokia, ex Navteq) risque fort d'être racheté par Mercédès/BMW/Audi. J'ai peur que la logique de partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux... Le 23/07/2015 13:33, David Crochet a écrit : Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite maritime
Bonjour, Suite à ce sujet de discussion j'ai modifié la limite en question pour suivre le texte du Code (la version dans la base OSM n'étant pas sourcée je l'ai écrasée) J'ai ajoutée une source bien sûr pour cette nouvelle version. L'île en question est maintenant en région Pays de la Loire ! Damouns Le 23 juillet 2015 16:07, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 23/07/2015 15:40, Bruno Cortial a écrit : Quoi penser ? Qu'il est intégré dans un code : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461dateTexte=categorieLien=cid Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Recyclage du rendu QA dans osmose: les carreaux INSEE sans route...
Et voilà un décompte par région et département... https://gist.github.com/cquest/111dccc51283d40b6eb9 ça traine en Aquitaine ! ;) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Navigazione mezzi pesanti
Il 23/07/2015 14:06, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: Oggi ho scoperto che openrouteservice.org http://openrouteservice.org offre la possibilità di generare rotte anche in funzione dei veicoli pesanti. Mi raccomando: installate il plugin josm mapillary e valorizzate maxheight maxweight maxwidth così avrò degli ETA decenti per i miei viaggi in camper :-) Allora vieni tranquillamente in ferie a Genova! Qui i numerosissimi tunnel e gallerie hanno tutti i tag maxqualchecosa ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Le pluggin est-il encore nécessaire? Il y a ça sur le wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:TomTom On y trouve une liste de personnes , le système de log employé et le type de GPS Le 23 juillet 2015 16:25, Jean-Claude Repetto jrepe...@free.fr a écrit : Le 23/07/2015 16:12, Christian Quest a écrit : Aucune idée ! Sur mon Tomtom j'avais ajouté un petit utilitaire pour enregistrer le log NMEA... mes premières traces collectées pour OSM ! Je ne sais pas si sur les dernières versions c'est toujours possible. Non, tous les TomTom fabriqués depuis 2010 sont verrouillés, impossible d'ajouter des plug-ins. Jean-Claude ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/15 15:37, André Riedel wrote: It is not the coloring. I would prefer the rendering of motorway and trunk with a outer and a inner line. better: XIX XIX XIX than: XX XX XX Do you mean like this http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.17024/-2.18493layers=Q or something else? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
2015-07-23 11:01 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: It includes preview of now differently rendered highway=motorway and highway=trunk http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35437 For me the way motorways and trunks are rendered in the german style looks better. http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html?zoom=11lat=48.8538lon=21.23702layers=B000TF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importation des arbres municipaux sur Nice
Oui si l'Open Data existe sauf que sur Montpellier c'est l'inverse qui se passe. C'est les données contenues dans OSM qui sont proposées (avec la licence OSM) sur le portail de Montpellier. Voilà pourquoi je produis ces données en fonction du terrain que j'effectue et que j'intègre directement dans OSM. La même pour ajouter l'éclairage public (en parallèle). Pour le placement je le corrige avec Bing quand c'est possible. Pour l'alignement avec JOSM, un petit coup de Maj+B et hop! C'est plus propre que la levé GPS dans certains cas. On n'est pas nombreux ici à le faire mais bon. Il suffit d'aller faire une requête Overpass pour se rendre compte des ajouts. J'ai déjà fais pas mal de chose. Nice à un SIG puissant d'ailleurs le gars qui s'occupait du SIG est maintenant chez ESRI et s'occupe de programme Arcopole. Je pense que le SIG est bien plus puissant (équipe, données, logiciel...) qu'ici. Pour la question d suivi et de maintenant il y a des ref en principe. Si tel est le cas il est facile de voir celle qui n'en ont pas de celle qui ont été importé. Si ces données ne sont pas dans le SI de Nice il faut vérifier si c'est pas en partie privé ou si c'est un manque et donc proposer un intégration dans le SI de Nice. La question de la mise à jour est valable pour toutes les données. Dixit Bâtiment détruit suite à un programme immobilier. Ajout de zone cyclable, modification des passage piétions avec conformité handicape. Zones de travaux? Le problème de certains tag ou de certaines données c'est la durée de vie. A partir de quand doit-on revérifier les données et considère-t-on qu'elles sont obsolètes. Il est certains que quand ce sont les opérateurs eux-même qui s'occupent de l'intégration et du suivi des données, on peut s'attendre à ce qu'ils maintiennent correctement les informations. Ici, j'ai l'impression qu'on a surtout de la contribution perso ou associative. Peut-être qu'une implication de la Métropole permettrait d'avoir une dynamique plus intéressante du fait qu'elle touche la globalité du territoire. Le 23 juillet 2015 14:13, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Certains imports sont à bien peser... @Jérôme: ces données ont un intérêt, certes, mais leur disponibilité en opendata permet déjà tout les usages que tu as listé. La question de l'entretien et de la mise à jour des données est celle qu'il faut à mon avis se poser après celle de la qualité des données qu'on envisage d'importer. Qualité: qui a vérifié avec un échantillonnage sur le terrain qu'elles étaient précises et à jour ? Quelle espoir de les voir mises à jour par le producteur et quid de l'intégration de ces mises à jour ? Entretien: qu'en disent les contributeurs locaux ? Ce sont eux qui vont en priorité pouvoir entretenir des données aussi détaillées. Le 23/07/2015 00:37, JB a écrit : Le 22/07/2015 16:36, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Après, je me pose la question de l'intérêt d'importer une zone comme ça, avec des arbres espacés de moins de 1m : http://hpics.li/85d8ec5. Il y en a plusieurs. Tu aurais des statistiques de distances ? Moi et QGis, on essaye de s'aimer, mais c'est pas toujours facile. À part compliquer la contribution, foirer le rendu, rendre impossible toute correction humaine ultérieure Je vois pas comment les corrections ne serait pas faisable... L'import a un intérêt pour la gestion des arbres. Les arbres plantés en touffe à moins d'un mètre c'est une réalité du terrain aussi... Oui, certes. Mais si tu mets 5 minutes à trouver dans les données quel arbre a été abattu, parce qu'il y en a 52 dans la zone, que le gps n'est pas assez précis, qu'il faut compter à partir de la bordure nord-est, mais qu'ils sont pas alignés, du coup ça marche pas. Chaque pavé d'une rue, c'est une réalité. Chaque arbre des forêts aussi. Pourtant, c'était une blague à la mode il y a pas si longtemps. Il y a d'autres façons de cartographier pour ça : landuse, landcover. Pour une commune l'intérêt est de gérer les plantations. Il me semble qu'avec l'age on peut aussi déterminer des arbres remarquables. Quand à la hauteur c'est plus dur à déterminer et à maintenir dans le temps. Sauf mettre la date de la prise de la hauteur car elle évolue dans le temps. Oui, ils ont même parfois un SIG pour gérer ça. Mais c'est pas un argument pour rentrer toutes les données dans OSM. Ca a aussi un intérêt environnemental: - étude des pollens - accueille de la faune Un intérêt patrimonial, paysager, ... On pourrait aussi gérer l'état de santé même si rien n'existe pour le moment dans OSM mais là on est plus dans la gestion. Peut être avec des ref=* pour gérer l'abattage d’arbres dangereux et l'élagage ajouter un facteur de croissance automatique par espèce pour déterminer un planning prévisionnel d'entretien. Bref les possibilités sont grandes même si certains n'en trouve pas l'intérêt. Bof, change le mot « intérêt » en « inconvénients dépassent les avantages
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/15 14:53, André Riedel wrote: For me the way motorways and trunks are rendered in the german style looks better. This is going to a sticking point much of the time. Certainly if the colours change form the current set, then I think we will be looking to provide a 'UK' rendering even if that means only covering the UK area. There is not a 'single' answer that will ever cover the whole planet, and keeping the 5 colours in the UK is important. From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly that is what is needed for any routing system. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 23/07/15 14:53, André Riedel wrote: For me the way motorways and trunks are rendered in the german style looks better. This is going to a sticking point much of the time. Certainly if the colours change form the current set, then I think we will be looking to provide a 'UK' rendering even if that means only covering the UK area. There is not a 'single' answer that will ever cover the whole planet, and keeping the 5 colours in the UK is important. From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly that is what is needed for any routing system I think the standard Mapnik needs to be as generic as possible. Certainly the German model (also used by Navigon, especially before their merger with Garmin) fails on it's face quite similarly to how the iconically American style that Rand McNally popularized http://maps.randmcnally.com/ (and emulated regularly by Thomas Brothers, MapQuest, and early versions of Google Maps) does. I'm not too intimately familiar with other styles, though I believe the existing Mapnik is a bit more universal than either model (roughly splitting the difference), even if American users unfamiliar with the style are unused to seeing surface expressways (trunks) rendered differently than primaries, and are likely to go wait, that's a toll road? seeing green... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags vides
Le 23/07/2015 01:49, Guillaume AMAT a écrit : Mais, si le tag existait déjà (name = toto) et que je le vide dans le formulaire... Je le supprime du node ou je l'envoie vide (chaîne de caractère vide) ? Alors alors ?! dev...@openstreetmap.org ;) Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] C / CC
Mmmm. Ma visto che la CC serve a dire in che modo voglio permettere che la mia opera si usata, ovvero a liberare alcune clausole del diritto d'autore, non ti sembra poco efficace e incompleta l'informazione racchiusa in quel simbolino vicino a OSM? A me sì Il giorno 23 luglio 2015 15:35, Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi e.marascal...@gmail.com ha scritto: Perche' la mappa e' tutelata dalle leggi del copyright. Che poi si usi una licenza CC-BY-SA o oDBL non vuol dire che non esista un copyright! Il giorno 23 luglio 2015 16:33, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Come mai qui compare (automaticamente) la singola C di copyright invece che CC BY-SA? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi skype: asca_edom ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Le 23/07/2015 16:44, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Le pluggin est-il encore nécessaire? Il y a ça sur le wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:TomTom On y trouve une liste de personnes , le système de log employé et le type de GPS Tout ce qui se trouve sur cette page du Wiki concerne les TomTom antérieurs à 2010. Pour info, je suis l'auteur de ttMaps, l'un des cinq logiciels cités sur cette page. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-dk] Brandveje
I JOSM kan du for hvert type fartøj angive access restrictions, inclusiv emergency services. Så bicycle=yes, Car=no emergency=yes Michel 2015-07-23 16:41 GMT+02:00 Rasmus Vendelboe r.vendelboe+...@gmail.com: Hej alle, Afledt af note 397487 skal vi have omtagget en vej så den i fremtiden bliver til en brandvej. Så vidt jeg kan se er brandveje en opfindelse som kommer af Bygningsreglementets 2010 §5.6.1. Den pågældende vej er altså primært til brandbiler, men så vidt jeg forstår er der vel ikke noget til hinder for at den passeres i hverken bil på cykel eller gåben sålænge der ikke parkeres på den? Medmindre de selvfølgelig er skiltet sådan, hvilket den ikke er i det her tilfælde. Jeg tænker, at såfremt den tagges som:highway=service, access=private kan ruteplanlæggere få ideen om den ikke må benyttes. Highway=footway/cycleway er det ikke, selvom disse udgør primær trafik på veje. Mangler vi måske et dedikeret service=* tag til sådan nogle veje eller har jeg overset noget? Hvordan vil i andre tagge en brandvej? [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/397487#map=18/56.15880/10.19622layers=N Med venlig hilsen Rasmus Vendelboe (rasmusv) ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk -- Michel Coene Georginehaven 94 Dk-2765 Smørum +45 52339625 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:07:59 +0100 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly that is what is needed for any routing system. Yes, this part of map is not bad. I am not entirely sure whatever it will be true after landuse will be mapped. Readability of nearby http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.2325/-1.5484 is poor, despite that landuse composition is quite favourable and forest rather not appearing near trunk roads. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Pour ce consoler, on peut se dire qu'on à déjà Mapillary qui le fait, ainsi que Skout, et qu'on peut récupérer tout ça dans Josm : http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/35344 Stf Le 23/07/2015 14:26, Christian Quest a écrit : Il va y avoir du mouvement dans tout ce domaine dans les années qui viennent... Entre les voitures sans conducteur, et les différentes assistances à la conduite qui vont de plus en plus se perfectionner (la conduite automatique sur autoroute développée par Audi est bluffante) le besoin en données haute-définition va pousser les constructeurs automobile ou les équipementiers (Bosch par exemple) à investir le domaine des données géographique. Here (ex Nokia, ex Navteq) risque fort d'être racheté par Mercédès/BMW/Audi. J'ai peur que la logique de partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux... Le 23/07/2015 13:33, David Crochet a écrit : Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] voiture lecteur de panneau signalétique
Tu écris justement Christian j'ai peur que la logique du partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux et là je ne suis pas sûr. À nous de montrer que c'est celle qui coûte le moins cher et rapporte le plus. Et alors ils suivront tous. Nicolas À jeu. juil. 23 08:26:12 2015 GMT-0400, Christian Quest a écrit : Il va y avoir du mouvement dans tout ce domaine dans les années qui viennent... Entre les voitures sans conducteur, et les différentes assistances à la conduite qui vont de plus en plus se perfectionner (la conduite automatique sur autoroute développée par Audi est bluffante) le besoin en données haute-définition va pousser les constructeurs automobile ou les équipementiers (Bosch par exemple) à investir le domaine des données géographique. Here (ex Nokia, ex Navteq) risque fort d'être racheté par Mercédès/BMW/Audi. J'ai peur que la logique de partage ne soit pas la plus naturelle pour eux... Le 23/07/2015 13:33, David Crochet a écrit : Bonjour le JT de 13h de F2 vient de monter les équipements typ haut de gamme sur les adaptabilités automatiques des véhicules grâce à, en particulier, un système de reconnaissance de panneau de signalisation. Est-il possible d'envisager un partenariat pour mutualiser leurs informations avec les données tel que, si leur système le permet, récupérer le point de modification de limitation de vitesses ou tout autre panneau de signalisation. Cordialement -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
'hoj, nezkousel jsem, ale pry je strasne sikovne a jednoduche CartoDB. uff, tak nevim, ale z toho jejich Learn more se mi nezdá, že by to byl vhodný nástroj; navíc bych radši něco offline K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
I think I'm still in heavy preference towards the more distinctive colors and level of detail of the existing mapnik, but I do like the smaller line weights for residential. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: I published new diary entry. It includes preview of now differently rendered highway=motorway and highway=trunk, possible changes to rendering railway=rail, proposed change to rendering of minor service tram tracks and more. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35437 Thanks for all test locations of rural areas! It is really useful. Also - is anybody aware about city where - landuse is mapped - highway=residential/unclassified/track is used correctly both in city and nearby area - buildings and roads are mapped In other words - is there a perfectly mapped town/city? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] name principale vette montagna su confini nazionali
Il 23/07/2015 10:12, Davide Mangraviti ha scritto: Invece la cima del Monte Bianco si chiama proprio così e anche qui se, si vuole dare il merito della nazionalità a coloro che per primi lo hanno raggiunto Dare il merito alla nazionalità di chi per primo è arrivato in vetta ad un monte ha poco a che vedere col nome ufficiale di una monte. Tra l'altro un monte non è solo il suo punto culminante ma lo è nella sua completezza e in tutti i suoi versanti. Personalmente alle numerose vette mappate sul confine IT-FR davo name se non ancora mappate e name:it se avevano già il nome francese, era però una non decisione in attesa di ufficializzare la convenzione sui nomi. Usare il doppio nome IMHO non è corretto, in fin dei conti il nome ufficiale dell'esempio succitato è Monte Bianco in italiano e Mont Blanc in francese e sui documenti ufficiali dei rispettivi paesi appare solo il nome nella propria lingua. Sempre personalmente userei due tag name.it e name dell'atro paese confinante. Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
umap? Dňa 23.7.2015 14:27 používateľ Karel Volný ka...@seznam.cz napísal: zdar, chtěl bych si udělat mapku výletu, poradí někdo prosím nějaký jednoduchý udělátor, kde by si šlo různě označit cesty a body, resp. přidat vlastní, a napsat k tomu legendu? obtahovat čáry na obrázku v GIMPu apod. se mi tak úplně nechce :-) Tak, zcela jistě by takovou věc šlo naprogramovat v Leafletu viz odpověď na jiném místě threadu nebo OpenLayers... hmm, KML example se mi líbí, že bych si požadované cesty připravil a vyexportoval třeba v Merkaartoru a jenom mu podhodil svůj datový soubor jen tam teda nevidím, jak si napsat tu legendu, ale to bych kdyžtak připlácl staticky jenže když jsem zkoušel Export map example, tak mi to žádnou mapu ke stažení nevygenerovalo tak asi zase nic, do debugování tohoto se mi vůbec nechce :-/ K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite maritime
Bonjour, Très bien, mais je veux encore mieux ;-). J'ai complété l'Île Dumet. Parfait pour les points A à D. Par contre je vois que tu as modifié la Limite des eaux territoriales de la France sur l'Atlantique http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46925877/history#map=9/47.1841/-3.2877 En te basant sur le Code rural et de la pêche maritime - Article R*911-3. Sauf que la limite est définie ainsi : http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/maritime-boundaries Tu as fait une modif pour que les tracés se rejoignent (ce qui est assez logique), est-ce qu'il ne faudrait pas préciser que le point ajouté http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3663213160 est le point plein Ouest référencé dans : source http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:source?uselang=fr Code rural et de la pêche maritime - Article R*911-3 source:website http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461 (ref = plein ouest ?) Et un complément d'info (description ?) sur la limite http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46925877/history#map=9/47.1841/-3.2877 Ça évitera de se poser des questions. Par exemple quand la Loire-Atlantique réintégrera la Bretagne ;-). Jean-Yvon Le 23/07/2015 16:48, Damouns - damo...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Suite à ce sujet de discussion j'ai modifié la limite en question pour suivre le texte du Code (la version dans la base OSM n'étant pas sourcée je l'ai écrasée) J'ai ajoutée une source bien sûr pour cette nouvelle version. L'île en question est maintenant en région Pays de la Loire ! Damouns Le 23 juillet 2015 16:07, David Crochet david.croc...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 23/07/2015 15:40, Bruno Cortial a écrit : Quoi penser ? Qu'il est intégré dans un code : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT06071367idArticle=LEGIARTI29977461dateTexte=categorieLien=cid Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-cz] Žďákovský most
Jsme teď v Písku na dovolené a tak jsem dosti citelně zaznamenali, že Žďákovský most je uzavřen pro rekonstrukci. Podle http://budejovice.idnes.cz/oprava-zdakovskeho-mostu-0y6-/budejovice-zpravy.aspx?c=A150608_175529_budejovice-zpravy_jkr je tato oprava na další dva roky, z toho minimálně do konce tohoto roku bude most uzavřen. Vzhledem k tomu, že je to most naprosto zásadní pro komunikaci v téhle části republiky bylo by dobré nějak naznačit OSMAnd spol., že tudy vlak (tedy auto) nepojede. Vidím dva problémy: a) Nevím v jakém stadiu podpory a oficiality jsou http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction a http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/temporary zejména v OSMAnd. b) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.osmand/9003/focus=9011 doesn’t give me much hope... are really download files over two years old? How often are they refreshed? Nějaké nápady? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mc...@ceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC This message has been composed of recycled electrons. None of these electrons has been harmed or injured in the creation and transmission of this message but they have been shamelessly exploited for this use. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/2015 19:49, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually farmland rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a bit more (obligatory Blue Peter** link http://imgur.com/L6l2g3z * to compare with http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/12/2028/1348.png ). The legend says 'Farm', and 'Farmyard' is a distinct land use from farmland, so they should be distinguishable, and while we don't 'tag for the renderer' Oh, _that_ legend: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1268 You can argue whether or not populating most of England with landuse=farmland is a good use of anyone's time, but you can't argue that it's wrong :) What is needed is proper tagging of fields rather than adding random areas of 'farmland' where the land outside of that is also farmland anyway. So yes I would argue that some of these areas are wrong when they have some arbitrary boundary through the middle of farmland. FWIW I personally tend to only add landuse when I've surveyed and added all the gates, stiles, gaps, hedges, walls, fences etc. - but it's an entirely personal choice. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] faq
2015-07-23 12:09 GMT+02:00 francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com: Ciao, di questo paragrafo dalla parte grassettata in poi secondo me non si capisce: da https://blog.openstreetmap.org/faq-domande-frequenti/?lang=it Ci piacerebbe che ancora più dati fossero resi pubblici e disponibili liberamente. Ciò dipende da quale licenza viene usata. Al momento usiamo CC-BY-SA. Se apporti migliorie ai nostri dati e vuoi distribuirne di nuovi, deve essere fatto sotto la stessa licenza. Se dai nostri dati crei una mappa, che tu usi altri dati o meno, la devi pubblicare sotto la stessa licenza. Sotto la proposta nostra nuova licenza ODbL, la regola per la pubblicazione di dati migliorati è la stessa. Se crei una mappa, sei libero di pubblicarla sotto la licenza che vuoi. Se per farla hai migliorato i nostri dati, allora devi condividere quei dati sotto ODbL. Qualcuno può sistemarla? Hai ragione non si capisce proprio. Guardando la pagina inglese il testo incriminato è: We would like more data to be made publicly and freely available. We use the ODbL 1.0 as our distribution licence. If you improve our data and want to distribute the new data, it must be done under the same license. If you make a map, you are free to publish that under whatever license you like as long as you attribute OSM correctly. Che tradotto dovrebbe essere: Ci piacerebbe che ancora più dati fossero resi pubblici e disponibili liberamente. Utilizziamo la licenza ODbL 1.0 per la distribuzione dei dati. Se apporti migliorie ai nostri dati e vuoi distribuirne di nuovi, questo deve essere fatto sotto la stessa licenza. Se crei una mappa sei libero di pubblicarla con la licenza che preferisci, l'importante è rispettare correttamente l'attribuzione a OSM. Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Navigazione mezzi pesanti
Oggi ho scoperto che openrouteservice.org offre la possibilità di generare rotte anche in funzione dei veicoli pesanti. Mi raccomando: installate il plugin josm mapillary e valorizzate maxheight maxweight maxwidth così avrò degli ETA decenti per i miei viaggi in camper :-) -- cascafico.altervista.org twitter.com/cascafico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Navigazione mezzi pesanti
Il giorno 23 luglio 2015 14:06, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto: Oggi ho scoperto che openrouteservice.org offre la possibilità di generare rotte anche in funzione dei veicoli pesanti. Mi raccomando: installate il plugin josm mapillary e valorizzate maxheight maxweight maxwidth così avrò degli ETA decenti per i miei viaggi in camper :-) C'è anche questa che segnala i passaggi sotto tunnel e ponti senza maxheight http://maxheight.bplaced.net/overpass/map.html Questo è un routing per camion http://osmtruckrouting.uni-hd.de/ Notare che molti guidatori di pullman o camion usano navigatori per auto e finiscono in posti non praticabili... :-) Ciao, Stefano -- cascafico.altervista.org twitter.com/cascafico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/2015 19:13, Lester Caine wrote: The random use of FARM for large areas is totally inappropriate, and personally I'd remove the bulk of those areas ... or cover the rest of the UK. Using 'farm' for the central farm area makes much more sense and is what is the normal standard south of 'Birmingham Farm' area ;) It's actually farmland rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a bit more (obligatory Blue Peter** link http://imgur.com/L6l2g3z * to compare with http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/12/2028/1348.png ). You can argue whether or not populating most of England with landuse=farmland is a good use of anyone's time, but you can't argue that it's wrong :) Cheers, Andy * and FWIW that I believe is a better trunk option (primary red with dark red casing) than what we have now too. ** For those unaware with the British meme - a children's television programme that used to show kids how to make things out of odds and ends, and then at the end reappear with and here is one I made earlier!. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
Bonjour Andrew, Good initiative! And it will be perfect if you add all necessary links to good practices/warnings about imports!-) I had a look at Canvec+ details (a). - The prepackaged files (250K tiles) are going to be quite large since, from what I understand, they have merged together all (16) underneath 50K. - Custom “areas of interest” might be difficult to manage for data import. - Proposed file formats are similar to what it used to be with standard Canvec, but it does not include OSM format :-( About the script(s) used to convert Canvec to OSM, they were built using FME workbenches linked together with batch files (so, obviously not open source). Best regards, Daniel a) http://geogratis.gc.ca/site/eng/whats-new/intro-canvec -Original Message- From: Andrew MacKinnon [mailto:andrew...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 14:04 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually farmland rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a bit more (obligatory Blue Peter** link http://imgur.com/L6l2g3z * to compare with http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/12/2028/1348.png ). The legend says 'Farm', and 'Farmyard' is a distinct land use from farmland, so they should be distinguishable, and while we don't 'tag for the renderer' You can argue whether or not populating most of England with landuse=farmland is a good use of anyone's time, but you can't argue that it's wrong :) What is needed is proper tagging of fields rather than adding random areas of 'farmland' where the land outside of that is also farmland anyway. So yes I would argue that some of these areas are wrong when they have some arbitrary boundary through the middle of farmland. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
On 23/07/15 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly that is what is needed for any routing system. Yes, this part of map is not bad. I am not entirely sure whatever it will be true after landuse will be mapped. Readability of nearby http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.2325/-1.5484 is poor, despite that landuse composition is quite favourable and forest rather not appearing near trunk roads. The random use of FARM for large areas is totally inappropriate, and personally I'd remove the bulk of those areas ... or cover the rest of the UK. Using 'farm' for the central farm area makes much more sense and is what is the normal standard south of 'Birmingham Farm' area ;) But all of the heavy detail should be an a separate layer so we can actually see the farms in the farmland areas. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] tutoriels et formations OSM / recrutement Missing Maps
Bonjour, Comme Benoît l'a signalé aux participants, l'événement de demain soir a été reporté à la rentrée faute de disponibilité des ONG devant y participer. Nous avons cependant décidé de maintenir un RDV informel demain soir pour se rencontrer, commencer à discuter du projet et voir ce qui pourrait être commencé pendant l'été (sur les outils utilisés notamment). Vous êtes donc les bienvenus, le RDV est place Gambetta à 19h30 pour un restau (Chez Betty), ceux qui seront là avant on peut se retrouver plus tôt pour boire un verre à côté. Contact : ben.fourn...@gmail.com ou m_nobleco...@cartong.org A bientôt ! Martin La date est choisie pour le 24 juillet. L'inscription finale se déroule sur Eventbrite : https://eventbrite.fr/event/17634580505 2015-06-30 15:41 GMT+02:00 althio althio.forum at gmail.com https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr: / Bonjour, // // Comme indiqué sur le forum dans la partie francilienne... // http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewtopic.php?f=18t=2040 // // ... je participe à la mise en place d'un groupe Missing Maps // localement à Paris, qui démarre par une session de formation en // juillet. // // J'ai deux besoins : // // 1) de la documentation // Je suis intéressé pour récupérer l'existant en tutoriels, // présentations, formations pour l'introduction à OSM au niveau débutant // (et éventuellement d'autres sujets, tels que les éditeurs, le Tasking // Manager, HOT, ...) // // 2) des co-encadrants // Je recherche des volontaires pour le jour J, plutôt du genre déjà // contributeurs OSM. Tout le monde sera là pour apprendre et échanger, // mais quelques co-encadrants permettrait de mettre un peu d'huile dans // la mécanique. // // // Si vous pouvez aider dans une rubrique (ou les deux), contactez-moi // dès que possible, ici ou hors-liste. // // Benoît - althio/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags vides
Il n'y a pas de tag a valeur vide dans osm. Si un tag est en trop on le supprime. Dans tous les éditeurs , supprimer la valeur supprimé aussi la clé. Le 23 juil. 2015 08:08, Hélène PETIT h...@free.fr a écrit : Le 23/07/2015 01:49, Guillaume AMAT a écrit : Mais, si le tag existait déjà (name = toto) et que je le vide dans le formulaire... Je le supprime du node ou je l'envoie vide (chaîne de caractère vide) ? Alors alors ?! dev...@openstreetmap.org ;) Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] name principale vette montagna su confini nazionali
Il giorno 17 luglio 2015 16:11, Max1234Ita max1234...@gmail.com ha scritto: Io, a buonsenso, proporrei un solo nodo, così taggato: natural=peak name=Mont Blanc/Monte Bianco (in rigoroso ordine *alfabetico*, così da ridurre le possibili contese su chi ha rivendicato per primo la vetta nel corso della Storia) name:it=Monte Bianco name:fr=Mont Blanc ele=4810 Io non mi intendo di montagna, ma siamo sicuri che il *picco* si chiami Monte Bianco? Mi sembra che di solito i picchi abbiano un nome proprio, e che il monte sia un'entità più grande e vasta che comprende picchi, pareti, canaloni... Penso ad esempio al Monte Rosa, il cui punto più alto (vado a memoria) è la Dufourspitze; in quel caso metterei natural=peak, name=Dufourspitze. Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch 2 : une interface qui s'affiche par défaut sur OSM
Il n'y a pas de support pour IE9 (voir http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID et https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1437 ) m. 2015-07-22 17:39 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Cucchietti nicolas.cucchie...@cddpnr06.org: Bonjour Pierre-Yves et Bruno, Merci pour vos réponses. Vous avez certainement raison tous les deux raisons car le Maire a souhaité utiliser l'ordinateur de la mairie pour rentrer des données dans OSM : la mairie du village s'est créé son propre compte. Il me semblait bien avoir utilisé Internet Explorer pour me rendre sur OSM, je n'en connaissais pas la version et ne savais pas que iD-Editeur pouvait ne pas être optimisé pour les anciennes versions du navigateur de Microsoft... Par ailleurs, il est possible également que Potlatch 2 soit l'interface préféré du compte de la mairie, ce dont je n'ai pas prêté attention. Je contacterai sous peu la mairie pour vérifier si le problème est résolu. Merci encore ! Vous m'avez été d'une aide précieuse. Je vous tiens au courant des suites. *Nicolas Cucchietti* Stagiaire pour le Conseil de Développement du PNR des Préalpes d'Azur Tourisme Durable - Projet Itinérance ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[talk-ph] What basemap was used during coordination exercise for the Metro Manila Earthquake Drill?
The best map there is of course! https://www.facebook.com/OSMPH/photos/a.10151205842257597.502691.345455082596/10153401323952597/?type=1theater -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags vides
Arf... Premier message et première bourde. Au bûcher ! Le 23/07/2015 08:06, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Le 23/07/2015 01:49, Guillaume AMAT a écrit : Mais, si le tag existait déjà (name = toto) et que je le vide dans le formulaire... Je le supprime du node ou je l'envoie vide (chaîne de caractère vide) ? Alors alors ?! dev...@openstreetmap.org ;) Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-cz] Vyhledávání v DuckDuckGo dle č.p.
'hoj, malá oprava - DuckDuckGo https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo číslo popisné hledal v číslech orientačních. naopak, hledáno bylo číslo orientační a nalezeno bylo číslo popisné (Láďa chtěl 742/22 a dostal 22/9) K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Dear Mayuresh, I used a Garmin device in 2010 I don't remember its model(it cost me 100 euro, but the accuracy was less). But it have a gpx logging feature. Resultant gpx can be copied to computer via usb, then josm to upload. There are 2-3 things to look for 1. easy to enter POIs (may be voice recording), is most important 2. ability to use OSM maps (There was a way to convert OSM maps to garmin format), because if the map is already there no need to again map it. 3. Is the accuracy() If these are there, then this device is ok. Checkout Columbus V990 suggested by Paramvir (It have voice recording feature) I know one guy who uses modified osmtracker+ bt headset with voice cancellation to capture POIs on a Moto G. I use a samsung galaxy tab 7+ which is much more accurate the garmin I had (but usually no harsh terrain, except my daughter, it survived with colorful lines on screen) Hope others also give there experiences. Regards Sunil Regards Sunil On 07/23/2015 02:55 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hi Sunil, Thanks for the response. I would prefer to go for a standalone GPS unit like the Garmin eTrex 20 because I can use it under any weather conditions (which can get difficult with a smartphone). While living in Uran, my primary task would be to perform mapping activities during the three seasons which present themselves as harsh environmental conditions, i.e. extreme heat, heavy rains and bitter winters (no snow though). So, suppose if I purchase the Garmin eTrex 20 and use it for logging data, would there be any way to; 1. move data off the unit and onto my Chromebook via USB? 2. convert the acquired data to be usable with OSM? 3. easily upload that data to OSM? Basically, since there are just a few local apps under a Chromebook, would there be any web service which can convert the data acquired from the GPS unit to the one which is accepted by OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh On 2015-07-23 02:42 PM, Sunil K wrote: Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky
Zdar, nevím co přesně potřebuješ, ale možná QGis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QGIS Umí: - vektorové vrstvy, lze naimportovat z různých formátů včetně OSM nebo GPS stop - přirazovat styly a popisky k jednotlivým objektům - rastrové vrstvy jako výška terénu (umí vygenerovat vrstevnice) - k tisku či exportu do PDF to má Print Composer, kde definuješ výřez, rozložení na stránce, přidáš třeba kilometrovou síť, měřítko i právě tu legendu To všechno čistě klikáním. Jen je potřeba překonat úvodní šok z množství tlačítek a podobně. :-) Honza -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Martin Tesar osm...@gmail.com Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 23. 7. 2015 8:36:20 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] mapa s popisky Ahoj, nezkousel jsem, ale pry je strasne sikovne a jednoduche CartoDB. Martin Dne 22. července 2015 14:22 Vladimír Slávik slavik.vladi...@seznam.cz (mailto:slavik.vladi...@seznam.cz) napsal(a): Ahoj, znám relativně dobře dvě možnosti pro tvorbu vlastní mapy. Legendu jsem ale zatím nikdy neřešil... leda v GIMPu :D S tiskem nápodobně :( 1) Google maps / drive. Aktivně je používám už skoro rok. Jako vrstva pozadí je některá z map Googlu (doprava / satelit / reliéf atd.). Umí vlastní vrstvy, v nich libovolně objekty typu bod, čára, oblast. Pro vše se dá nastavit barva nebo ikonka, dají se zobrazit názvy, přidat delší popisky. Ikonky se dají nakreslit a importovat vlastní, což mapu náležitě graficky pozvedne :) Import a export je ve formátu KML, dá se konvertovat sem tam s GPX a OSM. Klidně tedy lze sebrat nějaký objekt z OSM nebo si vycucnout trasy ze Seznamu (export jako GPX), pokud je to jen pro vlastní použití, tak co... Hlavní plus je možnost sdílení s vybranými lidmi a snadné ovládání. V příloze je ukázka. 2) Lze si udělat něco vlastního s použitím Leaflet.js http://leafletjs.com/ (http://leafletjs.com/) Dá se s tím udělat všechno viz výše, na vlastních stránkách / vlastním serveru (ocení milovníci samostatnosti!), plus WMS/TMS tuším, a tak vůbec obecně je to něco s čím lze manipulovat programově, takže není nutné narážet na náhodná omezení. Není to ale i pro babičku a maminku, pro ty leda na koukání. Eventuálně existuje plugin pro wordpress, který usnadňuje některé úkony... Hezký den! Vláďa Dne 22.7.2015 v 10:48 Karel Volný napsal(a): zdravíčko, chtěl bych si udělat mapku výletu, poradí někdo prosím nějaký jednoduchý udělátor, kde by si šlo různě označit cesty a body, resp. přidat vlastní, a napsat k tomu legendu? obtahovat čáry na obrázku v GIMPu apod. se mi tak úplně nechce :-) K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz) ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz) -- Martin Tesar http://mtbmap.cz/(http://mtbmap.cz/) ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags vides
C'est ce que j'ai fait mais j'ai préféré demandé avant de supprimer des données comme ça. Merci ! Le 23/07/2015 09:05, Philippe Verdy a écrit : Il n'y a pas de tag a valeur vide dans osm. Si un tag est en trop on le supprime. Dans tous les éditeurs , supprimer la valeur supprimé aussi la clé. Le 23 juil. 2015 08:08, Hélène PETIT h...@free.fr mailto:h...@free.fr a écrit : Le 23/07/2015 01:49, Guillaume AMAT a écrit : Mais, si le tag existait déjà (name = toto) et que je le vide dans le formulaire... Je le supprime du node ou je l'envoie vide (chaîne de caractère vide) ? Alors alors ?! dev...@openstreetmap.org mailto:dev...@openstreetmap.org ;) Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Uran ...
I have a Columbus V990 a very inexpensive device. I use that for track gathering and audio notes at POIs. It's so accurate I don't need anything else. I use GOMap on iPhone for detailed editing of POIs etc. If you have an old Blackberry, install GPSLogger II, a powerhouse app for track gathering and naming POIs on the tracks itself. For Android you can use Vespucci or OSMAnd, though am not a fan of Android. Most of these devices will give you fairly accurate tacks and POIs even if there is no cellular data. That's the reason I bought the Columbus. It's inexpensive and records tracks for 17 hours a day on a single charge. Blackberry has the world's best email experience. On 23-Jul-2015, at 2:42 pm, Sunil K iamsun...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mayuresh, I would suggest to go for samsung tablet, or Moto G than going for a standalone GPS like Garmin or TomTom( because cost vs accuracy is better in the case of former, based on my experiance from 2010 now it may be different). I dont know how good is bluetooth or USB connected GPS (which can be connected to your chromebook directly) The only important think is GPS should be able to lock without 2G or 3G network, in a remote location sometimes this is crucial. Another think is battery life with GPS(with and without screen on). You could use apps like osmtracker to get gpx trail and way points, Navit or OsmAnd(could also be used for tracking) for existing map. There is a OSM editor vespucci but I don't know how good it is. br Sunil On 07/23/2015 01:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: Hello, I tried to keep this off list as much as I could, but it would be improper to harangue just one person with newbie type questions. :-) I am basically from Mumbai, but also have a certain amount of presence in a nearby hamlet called Uran (65Kms south east of Mumbai). I checked out the map for that region on OSM and found very few details. Given the fact that I would be spending a month there, once in every 2 months (making it around 4 months a year), I would like to invest time in helping map that region. I have been advised to take a look at JOSM as an editor, but found iD to be a lot better for my current situation, i.e. only portable is a Google Chromebook. I solicit advice on the GPS equipment I would need (I don't use a smartphone). Would you be kind enough to recommend a decent, low-cost GPS unit for acquiring data which can be easily used with OSM? Thanks, ~Mayuresh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-cz] Vyhledávání v DuckDuckGo dle č.p.
Ahoj Při páchání odkazu do zprávičky https://www.openalt.org/sraz_2015_07_praha jsem narazil na problém, že DuckDuckGo https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo číslo popisné hledal v číslech orientačních. Pro Jungmannovu 22 tedy https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jungmannova+22%2C+Prahat=ffab Napadá vás úprava, která by se dala DuckDuckGo doporučit, aby vraceli lepší výsledky? (Z interní debaty s Kavolem i pohledu na Wikinu https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienta%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_%C4%8D%C3%ADslo to u nás je chuťovka :-D) Díky a prima pařáky Laďa ;?) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-legal-talk] Illustrator paintings
Did you receive this question? I've done several steps with OSM data, which is under ODbL: 1. I've downloaded shapefiles from Geofabrik. 2. I've then selected some elements using qGIS, projected them to UTM and exported to DXF and PDF: 3. I've imported those DXF PDF files in Illustrator. 4. In Illustrator, I've combined ways, smoothed them to beziers, made some elements rounder or even simplified buildings to simpler polygons. But only some of them, I didn't track my editos. Do I have to upload the unstiled lines and polygons from Illustrator somewhere? I did not add any data, which hasn't been in the OSM database. Actually, I didn't make the quality of the data better, I've done generalization for printing it in a leaflet. Is it enough to add © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL 1.0) to the imprint of the leaflet? Best regards! fsound ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [Talk-it] name principale vette montagna su confini nazionali
Per il massiccio del Monte Rosa ci sono più vette la Punta Dufour va bene chiamarla giustamente Dufourspitze per questi motivi: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punta_Dufour ed è già così: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/414760065 Invece la cima del Monte Bianco si chiama proprio così e anche qui se, si vuole dare il merito della nazionalità a coloro che per primi lo hanno raggiunto, si può pensare che venga chiamato Mont Blancperchè motivi amministrativi non ce ne stanno che io sappia.. ma a sto punto che si faccia una regola che vale sempre! (Nota per chi non c'è mai stato: ma solo da Chamonix si vede la cima del Monte Bianco, dalla parte italiana di Courmayeur si vede quella che si chiama Mont Blanc de Courmayeur... che pure questa ha toponimo francese!! .. e questo i francesi lo fanno pesare tantissimo!...) Simone Saviolo wrote Io non mi intendo di montagna, ma siamo sicuri che il *picco* si chiami Monte Bianco? Mi sembra che di solito i picchi abbiano un nome proprio, e che il monte sia un'entità più grande e vasta che comprende picchi, pareti, canaloni... Penso ad esempio al Monte Rosa, il cui punto più alto (vado a memoria) è la Dufourspitze; in quel caso metterei natural=peak, name=Dufourspitze. Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@ https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/name-principale-vette-montagna-su-confini-nazionali-tp5850301p5850726.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!
I published new diary entry. It includes preview of now differently rendered highway=motorway and highway=trunk, possible changes to rendering railway=rail, proposed change to rendering of minor service tram tracks and more. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35437 Thanks for all test locations of rural areas! It is really useful. Also - is anybody aware about city where - landuse is mapped - highway=residential/unclassified/track is used correctly both in city and nearby area - buildings and roads are mapped In other words - is there a perfectly mapped town/city? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Retour sur la contribution à Mapillary
Le 21/07/2015 07:08, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit : Et sinon, merci Stéphane pour ce retour d'expérience. Anticiper les contraintes logistiques, viser juste car on ne reviendra pas de sitôt sur les lieux, penser aux détails... bien vu ! Merci ! Il me reste à résoudre le problème des vibrations, l'effet jello. Mon smartphone y est particulièrement sensible, et ma voiture n'est pas aussi adaptée que certains modèles http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3whl5_citroen-c6-bmw-serie-5-top-gear_auto-. vincent ps. petit sourire en voyant ce qui se reflète dans le pare-brise :) ?? Stf ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
