Re[2]: Question about helpfile pictures

[Goncalo Farias]

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TB> --On 6 July 2005 19:45:57 +0300 Avi Yashar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Anyway, where is the confusion? Vili is the smart one, and I am the
>> one who speaks English.

TB> So which one of you have been sending me photo's?

I sent the dirty ones! LoL :)


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Re[5]: Question about helpfile pictures

[Goncalo Farias]

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V> Hello Avi,

>> On 7/6/05, Vili wrote:
>>> Download the Hungarian manuals :))
>> Well, the documentation probably could not be any less clear to me in
>> Magyar than it is in English. :-)

V> "Magyar"... How do you know this word?

It's in the dictionary! :)


Noun: Magyar
1. The official language of Hungary (also spoken in Rumania); belongs to the 
Ugric family of languages
2. A native or inhabitant of Hungary

Adjective: Magyar
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Re[2]: Question about helpfile pictures

[Goncalo Farias]

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AY> On 7/6/05, MAU wrote:
>> >  I'm getting confused here between Avi and Vili. Any chance one of you can
>> >  change your name to George?
>> 
>> ROFL!!! That was one of your best, Tony :)

AY> Sorry, Miguel, I just don't get it. Was there a joke somewhere?

AY> Anyway, where is the confusion? Vili is the smart one, and I am the
AY> one who speaks English.

BaAAHahhaaHhah ROTFLMAO! :)


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Bug, when install v3.51?

[Vili]

Hello tbbeta,

I  have  installed  v3.51  beta  over v3.0.2.10, and I lost my MicroEd
color settings, Toolbar settings on Main screen and Editor screen.

It  is  not  a  big  deal  for  me,  but  I  dont  know, what else was
overwritten...

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Peter!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 4:09 PM, you wrote:

MB>> I think we can look forward to a change in how TB! handles this (no
MB>> more displays of Roguemoticons in message body, including sig; Rogue
MB>> pics appearing only in the headers).

> Good news!

Yes!!

> So forget about all the previous messages - I guess things are clear now :-)

Okay. I did read them. I think language only was getting in our way--I
am not too good at finding sentence structures that will convey
exactly what I mean!

But we're on the same page! Good job, Peter!!

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Peter!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 3:48 PM, you wrote:

9>> Perhaps it is time to disable locating smileys in the message body,

> If you mean roguemoticons, I totally agree with you. The only place for this
> kind of "smileys" should be the header pane. (i.e. sender photo)

9Val does mean the roguemoticons. I've just sent him a post that I
agree, also.

I think we can look forward to a change in how TB! handles this (no
more displays of Roguemoticons in message body, including sig; Rogue
pics appearing only in the headers).

In a beta coming soon to our neighborhood!

Good for you, Peter, for bringing the issue into focus again! :)

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A bit of perspective

[Gleason Pace]

>From the Pegasus mail discussion list.  This is not a beta tester's list, so many don't have access to the betas, and of course they all wish they did.  Notice how he says he went back to beta 30 
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> 
> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.30 public beta 1)
> 
> Is the emphasis on "public" or on "beta"?
> I can't seem to find it anywhere.

It's not yet available, and to be honest, the latest "release candidate public beta 1" 
has some very strange things happening on win 95/98/2k systems. For sure David 
doesn't want to have this one out in the open 
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Leif!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 3:27 PM, you wrote:

>> BTW, today is Leif's birthday! :happybirthday: , Leif!! Perhaps we
>> could get him to amend the code as a birthday present to all of us
>> Roguemoticon and Smiley aficionados!

> Don't look at me.. I didn't write the code in TB as to where they
> display.

Sorry. 9Val is already responding about it.

I was pretty sure that Peter Hampf misunderstood how things work, but
I wanted to give his ideas the benefit of the doubt, in case I was
myself wrong about it.

Thanks for writing, and sorry to bring up "work" which isn't even in
your power to do, and, in addition, to have brought it up in
connection with your birthday! :(

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello 9Val!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 3:11 PM, you wrote:

>>> Perhaps it is time to disable locating smileys in the message body, as
>>> you  remember,  it  was  migration  step  from  initial Leif's idea to
>>> the X-Rogue header field
MB>> 9Val, am I misunderstanding you?
MB>> Do you mean "Roguemoticons" from the Rogues folder and Rogues.msl file?

> Exactly, smileys will remain in their places :)

Thanks a mil! :)

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Re[2]: Test x-rogue

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Mary,

Thursday, July 7, 2005, 11:51:02 AM, you wrote:
> BTW, today is Leif's birthday! :happybirthday: , Leif!! Perhaps we
> could get him to amend the code as a birthday present to all of us
> Roguemoticon and Smiley aficionados!

Don't look at me.. I didn't write the code in TB as to where they
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Mary Bull & everyone else,

on 07-Jul-2005 at 19:51 you (Mary Bull) wrote:

> Unchecking Smileys in the right-click context menu alone won't do it;
> Plain Text View also has to be chosen.

It does not disappear immediately when turning smileys off, but switching
to a different message & then back again makes the wrong image disappear
here.

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Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug 2a.

[9Val]

Hello Vili,  

V> "IMAP - 1: The folder "INBOX.Drafts" selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out
V> of 2 total messages"

That's  verbose  log  of  IMAP session. Servers always include deleted
message   count  in  report,  so their _plain_ counters are useless in
case of not expunged folder.

V> 9Val: do you need an easymail account?

I think this problem is not easymail-related :)

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Re: Test x-rogue

[9Val]

Hello Mary,  

>> Perhaps it is time to disable locating smileys in the message body, as
>> you  remember,  it  was  migration  step  from  initial Leif's idea to
>> the X-Rogue header field
MB> 9Val, am I misunderstanding you?
MB> Do you mean "Roguemoticons" from the Rogues folder and Rogues.msl file?

Exactly, smileys will remain in their places :)

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello 9Val!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 2:40 PM, you wrote:

> Perhaps it is time to disable locating smileys in the message body, as
> you  remember,  it  was  migration  step  from  initial Leif's idea to
> the X-Rogue header field

9Val, am I misunderstanding you?
Do you mean "Roguemoticons" from the Rogues folder and Rogues.msl file?

If so, I do agree.

Or do you mean all Smileys, from the Default and the PCW Images
folders and their .msl files?

That would be the equivalent of abandoning the Smiley capability and
it would make me very sad. :(

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Re[3]: Test x-rogue

[9Val]

Hello Peter, 

> - TB *knows* where the sig begins!

Actually  not.  Smileys  hook  HTML  viewer  filling  so  they have no
information about logical location, just HTML.

> Therefore it would be quite easy to use/display the rogues images ONLY in the
> header pane or in the sig, not in the body. And in the header pane it should
> only be displayed, if the expression appears in the kludges, *never* if it
> appears in the message body or the sig (which actually is part of the body).

Perhaps it is time to disable locating smileys in the message body, as
you  remember,  it  was  migration  step  from  initial Leif's idea to
the X-Rogue header field

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Re[3]: 3.51

[Eugene Gladchenko]

Vili,

>> No, they aren't. The Bat! 3.51 still fails to open my Exchange message store:
>>  07.07.2005, 17:06:59: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>> !07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Session.OpenMsgStore HResult=80040111
>>  07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server.
>> Profile "MS Exchange" was not accepted while opening the message
>> store.

V> Go to Account, Properties, Transport. Select an other profile there,
V> check it and tell us the result.

There's the only profile in there and TB doesn't work with it.
MS Outlook 2000 does.

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Raymund Tump]

Hi!

> - the [:]stuartc[:] expression is part of the ROGUES file which is intended to
>   display the *senders* foto.

> - TB *knows* where the sig begins!

But a :rogue: is nothing more than a smiley for TB! and so it can't
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Bill!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 2:13 PM, you wrote:

>> It's up and running, at present. I downloaded Ben Allen's latest pic a
>> couple of hours ago:

> Thanks Mary, I've just downloaded and installed it
> during lunch - I see you!

Looking forward to seeing you, when you have the time to put your own
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Bill McCarthy]

On Thu 7-Jul-05 1:12pm -0500, Mary Bull wrote:

> It's up and running, at present. I downloaded Ben Allen's latest pic a
> couple of hours ago:

Thanks Mary, I've just downloaded and installed it
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Bill!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 1:04 PM, you wrote:

>>> I was in PM with Leif (on whose server PCWize runs) over the
>>> weekend. It's been going down every few days. ...

>> G. That's it. I need to pull that box down and rebuild it from
>> scratch. It's just so dang unstable right now (at least the webserver
>> is.)

> Could you please post a note when the zip file is
> available?  Good luck with the rebuild!

It's up and running, at present. I downloaded Ben Allen's latest pic a
couple of hours ago:

"Download the latest http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip
Here is who joined or updated: Ben Allen"

I signed up to be notified by e-mail when there are changes in the
.zip, at the time I made a Roguemoticon account and submitted my own
photo there. So that's why I got the above quoted info.

This link will only get you a download dialog box. To put your own
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Bill McCarthy]

On Thu 7-Jul-05 9:40am -0500, Leif Gregory wrote:

> Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 5:39:05 PM, Mary Bull wrote:
>> I was in PM with Leif (on whose server PCWize runs) over the
>> weekend. It's been going down every few days. I'm going to CC this
>> to him, in case he hasn't noticed yet that it's out again.
>
> G. That's it. I need to pull that box down and rebuild it from
> scratch. It's just so dang unstable right now (at least the webserver
> is.)

Could you please post a note when the zip file is
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Re: OT: Mulberry

[Vili]

Just private: sorry, I will count to 20 next time...

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> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:43:51 -0400GMT (7-7-2005, 17:43 +0200, where I
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V>> Just  FYI,  no  punt  intended  to  any  Mulberry

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Peter!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 12:28 PM, you wrote:

ASK>> Not here. Maybe because I have disabled the smileys?
> Exactly. Enable smileys and you will see the wrong sender photo.

Unchecking Smileys in the right-click context menu alone won't do it;
Plain Text View also has to be chosen. (I've just run a couple of
tests, using the message in question,
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] )

I didn't go so far as to reset my settings in Options/Preferences, so
I don't know whether that would make the difference. Too lazy to
bother, since I greatly enjoy seeing Smileys. :)

BTW, today is Leif's birthday! :happybirthday: , Leif!!
Perhaps we could get him to amend the code as a birthday present to
all of us Roguemoticon and Smiley aficionados!

Or, at least, to take a look at whether it's as simple to fix as
you've said, Peter, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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OT: Mulberry 2.

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Vili,

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:53:26 -0400GMT (7-7-2005, 17:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

V> I crashed this software in 30 sec. It is reproducible, and I just
V> wanted to make a settings in it.


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OT: Mulberry

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Vili,

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:43:51 -0400GMT (7-7-2005, 17:43 +0200, where I
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V> Just  FYI,  no  punt  intended  to  any  Mulberry


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Re: Test x-rogue

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Peter Hampf & everyone else,

on 07-Jul-2005 at 07:25 you (Peter Hampf) wrote:

> Therefore it would be quite easy to use/display the rogues images ONLY in
> the header pane or in the sig, not in the body. And in the header pane it
> should only be displayed, if the expression appears in the kludges,
> *never* if it appears in the message body or the sig (which actually is
> part of the body).

> I think this logic would be quite easy to implement.

I support this wish. Even though smileys are deactivated here.

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Re: Test x-rogue

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Peter Hampf & everyone else,

on 07-Jul-2005 at 19:28 you (Peter Hampf) wrote:

ASK>> Not here. Maybe because I have disabled the smileys?

> Exactly. Enable smileys

Why would I do that? :-)

> and you will see the wrong sender photo.

Not the best implementation if you ask me. I'd expect to see the image
where the "code" calling it is, and nowhere else. Crap.

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Re: Mulberry

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 07-Jul-2005 at 17:43 you (Vili) wrote:

> Just  FYI

...oh, another subject that I can add to my ignore filter. Thanks for
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Re: Mulberry 2.

[Mary Bull]

Hello Tony!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 11:45 AM, you wrote:

> By the way, I'm unsubscribing from this list so I'll catch you on TBOT,
> it's a much nicer atmosphere.

Tony? Not really? What will we do here without you?

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Re: Mulberry

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 11:43:51 -0400 Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, it has its problems, also... had crashes, also...


It does have it's problems but that's one impressive list of fixes you have 
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Re: Mulberry 2.

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 11:53:26 -0400 Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, Tony, you have to play with Mulberry too to get it work...


Well I play with the settings but it's never crashed or given me any 
trouble apart from PGP but thars a PG problem.


By the way, I'm unsubscribing from this list so I'll catch you on TBOT, 
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Peter Hampf & everyone else,

on 06-Jul-2005 at 23:26 you (Peter Hampf) wrote:

BM>> I did see the following line in your header:
BM>> X-Rogue: :stuartc:

> By typing the line above (the second one) in your message TEXT your
> message got displayed with Stuarts picture! That's REALLY not what should
> happen.

Not here. Maybe because I have disabled the smileys? The first msg in the
thread shows Stuarts picture, the second (Bills message) none.

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Re: Mulberry 2.

[Clive Taylor]

--On 7/07/2005 11:53 -0400 Vili wrote:

When the Settings screen comes up, select
Advanced  on  the right side, select the Mailbox tab, check "Move Read
messages..."  on  the  bottom, down triangle, Choose, on the appearing
Browse Mailbox screen select Cancel. Crash and the program quits...)


It doesn't happen here. Check your computer for system errors.

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Re: Mulberry

[Clive Taylor]

--On 7/07/2005 11:43 -0400 Vili wrote:

So, it has its problems, also... had crashes, also...


You're being ridiculous for effect, I'm afraid.

These issues pertain to the new version 4 just released. They have been 
acknowledged by the developer, Cyrus Daboo, as affecting some people and he 
has resolved them. None of them are particularly serious and they do not 
affect the core functionality of the programme which is so much more 
responsive and effective in its IMAP implementation. You can not make a 
meaningful comparison with issues that have been resolved in  Mulberry and 
an almost wilful ignoring of major problems that TB users have posted on 
BugTrak.


For your information, I was using v4 alpha 1 of Mulberry when it was 
released and, in a real-world comparison to a 'production' version of TB, 
it behaved in a much more polished and mature way.


Nuff said.

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Re[2]: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Vili]

Hello Roelof,

V>> Please support
V>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4882
V>> and
V>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880
V>> if you feel it that way.
> You could at least say they were IMAP items, before asking for
> support, could you?
> I had to check them out on the site before I knew what you were
> talking about.

Sorry, I will do this next time.

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Mulberry 2.

[Vili]

Hello tbbeta,

Now, this punt is intended :))) (Just joking...)

I crashed this software in 30 sec. It is reproducible, and I just
wanted to make a settings in it.

(Download  and install demo. When the Settings screen comes up, select
Advanced  on  the right side, select the Mailbox tab, check "Move Read
messages..."  on  the  bottom, down triangle, Choose, on the appearing
Browse Mailbox screen select Cancel. Crash and the program quits...)

So, Tony, you have to play with Mulberry too to get it work... And
this kind of AVs does not appear in TB!, we have to admit...

I wont report more MB bug here, just wanted to show, that we should
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Re: 3.51

[Dimitry Andric]

On 2005-07-07 at 17:30:33 Leif Gregory wrote:

> Don't honestly recall. I did the whois on the IP when installing
> Garmin CitySelect v6 a couple days back, and saw the same IP in TB
> when I installed the latest .MSI.

Just for completeness sake, does the connect request disappear when
you go to Control Panel - Internet Options - Advanced, and uncheck
"Check for publisher's certificate revocation" (under the Security
category) ?

(Note that leaving this option on is usually okay; if Ritlabs' private
keys ever get compromised, they might want to revoke them!)


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Re: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Vili,

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:32:15 -0400GMT (7-7-2005, 16:32 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

V> Please support
V> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4882
V> and
V> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880
V> if you feel it that way.

You could at least say they were IMAP items, before asking for
support, could you?
I had to check them out on the site before I knew what you were
talking about.

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Mulberry

[Vili]

Hello tbbeta,

Just  FYI,  no  punt  intended  to  any  Mulberry  lover  :) I
downloaded/installed Mulberry to see, how it works, and I have this in
the version list:

v4.0.1 : 29-Jun-2005
Minor Changes
*IMAP label names can now be customised.
*New quick search active icon indicator added.
*Calendar accounts can be dragged in calendar store view to re-order them.
*New admin tool for v4.

Fixes
*Fixed bug with inline decrypt/verify not changing message text.
*Fixed bug with quick search state restore when switching tabs.
*Fixed bug with mis-labelled exception alert fields.
*Fixed bug with non-ascii characters in application path name.
*Fixed bug with multi-selections in lists being reset after dragging.
*Fixed bug with inability to select Selected Only search criterion.
*Fixed bug with crashes when replying/forwarding messages when the original 
message mailbox is reset.
*Fixed bug with missing spelling plugin causing a crash in preferences dialog.
*Fixed bug with wrong text/button colours being used.
*Fixed bug with incorrect line end encoding in generated iCalendar data.
*Fixed bug causing a crash when an empty webcal URL was used.
*Fixed bug with recurring calendar items not always including the initial 
instance in the recurrence set.
*Fixed bug when dealing with x509 certs with multiple email addresses.
*Fixed bugs with spelling checking of non-ascii text.
*Fixed bug causing a crash when adding text macros.

So, it has its problems, also... had crashes, also...

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Re: IMAP connection problem with 3.51

[Michael Mlinaric]

Hi Vili,

> Read this:

> http://lists.horde.org/archives/horde/Week-of-Mon-20031124/022032.html

Thanks for pointing me to this. I've unchecked the filter item
as well and we'll see if it will solve the problem.


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Re: IMAP connection problem with 3.51

[Vili]

Hello Michael,

> I cannot connect to one of my IMAP accounts with 3.51 any more. The
> following error message appears:
> S: * BYE [ALERT] Fatal error: TOO MANY CONSECUTIVE PROTOCOL VIOLATIONS:
> S:   !! Socket status 0
> I've never seen this error before with any of the previous versions.
> When I roll back to 3.5.36 no problems at all. Any ideas ?

Read this:

http://lists.horde.org/archives/horde/Week-of-Mon-20031124/022032.html

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Re[4]: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Vili]

Hello Marek,

>>> Vili, please change project in your Bugtraq from "Bugtracker" to
>>> "The Bat!", this is correct place for reporting bugs. BTW I have
>>> changed project for these reports already.
>> Now I checked, please tell me how can I do that?
>> At  the  "Enter report details", "Category" I have "HTML... security".
>> But no The Bat, or IMAP...
>> I am new to this :(
> in main window, look to upper right corner and You will see
> "Bugtracker" there, open pull-down menu and select "The Bat!".

Thanks Marek for your patience, I checked :)) I will follow this next
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Re[2]: 3.51

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Dimitry,

Thursday, July 7, 2005, 9:16:57 AM, you wrote:
> It's probably checking the Certificate Revocation List. It is by any
> chance "crl.verisign.com", or a similar name?

Don't honestly recall. I did the whois on the IP when installing
Garmin CitySelect v6 a couple days back, and saw the same IP in TB
when I installed the latest .MSI.


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Re: 3.51

[Dimitry Andric]

On 2005-07-07 at 16:49:45 Leif Gregory wrote:

>> It tries to verify the signature of the installer package AFAIK. I
>> don't know what sense it makes if it installs even without
>> verification, tho. :-)

> Correct, the IP is for Verisign. I've noticed this of late with other
> MSI installers too.

It's probably checking the Certificate Revocation List.  It is by any
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IMAP connection problem with 3.51

[Michael Mlinaric]

Hi,

I cannot connect to one of my IMAP accounts with 3.51 any more. The
following error message appears:

S: * BYE [ALERT] Fatal error: TOO MANY CONSECUTIVE PROTOCOL VIOLATIONS:
S:   !! Socket status 0

I've never seen this error before with any of the previous versions.

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Re[3]: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, July 7, 2005, Vili wrote:

>> Vili, please change project in your Bugtraq from "Bugtracker" to
>> "The Bat!", this is correct place for reporting bugs. BTW I have
>> changed project for these reports already.

> Now I checked, please tell me how can I do that?

> At  the  "Enter report details", "Category" I have "HTML... security".
> But no The Bat, or IMAP...

> I am new to this :(

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Re[3]: 3.51

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Alexander,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 11:58:08 PM, you wrote:
> It tries to verify the signature of the installer package AFAIK. I
> don't know what sense it makes if it installs even without
> verification, tho. :-)

Correct, the IP is for Verisign. I've noticed this of late with other
MSI installers too.


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Re[2]: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Vili]

Hello Marek,

> Vili, please change project in your Bugtraq from "Bugtracker" to
> "The Bat!", this is correct place for reporting bugs. BTW I have
> changed project for these reports already.

Now I checked, please tell me how can I do that?

At  the  "Enter report details", "Category" I have "HTML... security".
But no The Bat, or IMAP...

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Re[2]: Mod: Moderator's comment (was: Question about helpfile pictures)

[Ben Allen]

Howdy Jimmy,

Thursday, July 7, 2005, 3:55:30 AM, James wrotened:

JJW> On 7/7/05, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
>> Dear Avi,
>> 
>> Please don't feel singled out Avi.
>> 
>>  )<)))'>
>> 
>> You are writing to the list using the name Avi Yashar and I haven't
>> moderated one of your messages for over a week. SCNR :gdr:

JJW> Did h**l freeze over, or is Mr. P finally developing a sense of humor?

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Re[2]: Test x-rogue

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Mary,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 5:39:05 PM, you wrote:
> I was in PM with Leif (on whose server PCWize runs) over the
> weekend. It's been going down every few days. I'm going to CC this
> to him, in case he hasn't noticed yet that it's out again.

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Re[2]: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Vili]

Hello Marek,

>> Please support
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4882
>> and
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880
>> if you feel it that way.
> Vili, please change project in your Bugtraq from "Bugtracker" to
> "The Bat!", this is correct place for reporting bugs. BTW I have
> changed project for these reports already.

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Re: Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, July 7, 2005, Vili wrote:

> Please support
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4882

> and

> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880

> if you feel it that way.

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"The Bat!", this is correct place for reporting bugs. BTW I have
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Bugreports 4880 and 4882

[Vili]

Hello tbbeta,

Please support
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4882

and

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880

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Re: Stramge headers .. bug?

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

M>>> 6.- Re-starting TB (v3.5.36) solves the problem. Until I open again the
M>>> *.eml message attached in Marck's original message.
>>
>> but only by double clicking, opening the eml just in the tab does change
>> nothing
>
> You are very right, I forgot to say that this only happens when opening
> it with double click.

Today I have received 3 messages that reproduce this problem of not
displaying headers. The 3 of them are delivery status notifications that
include as an attachment (*.msg) the original message rejected. The
difference to what I could observe yesterday is that there is no need to
open the attached message (either by double click or selecting the msg
tab) to trigger the problem. The problem just shows up when selecting
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Re[2]: 3.51

[Vili]

Hello Eugene,

>>>   Please download 3.51 which is a replacement of 3.5.xx.
>>>   It fixes charset issues of the latest 3.5.xx
ZW>> First of all, Exchange connection problems are fixed!
> No, they aren't. The Bat! 3.51 still fails to open my Exchange message store:
>  07.07.2005, 17:06:59: FETCH - receiving mail messages
> !07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Session.OpenMsgStore HResult=80040111
>  07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server.
> Profile "MS Exchange" was not accepted while opening the message
> store.

Go to Account, Properties, Transport. Select an other profile there,
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Re: Test x-rogue

[Mary Bull]

Hello Peter!

On Thursday, July 07, 2005, 12:25 AM, you wrote:

> - TB *knows* where the sig begins!

How does it know? From the sig delimiter mark? (Sorry, I'm not a
programmer, so I'm just floundering around here--no pun intended.)

> Therefore it would be quite easy to use/display the rogues images
> ONLY in the header pane or in the sig, not in the body. And in the
> header pane it should only be displayed, if the expression appears
> in the kludges, *never* if it appears in the message body or the sig
> (which actually is part of the body).

This is what it should do. I agree.

> I think this logic would be quite easy to implement.

I do hope so! Then we could look forward to this unwanted behavior's
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Re: 3.51

[Eugene Gladchenko]

Zygmunt,

>>   Please download 3.51 which is a replacement of 3.5.xx.
>>   It fixes charset issues of the latest 3.5.xx

ZW> First of all, Exchange connection problems are fixed!

No, they aren't. The Bat! 3.51 still fails to open my Exchange message store:

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!07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Session.OpenMsgStore HResult=80040111
 07.07.2005, 17:07:00: FETCH - Cannot connect to the server. Profile "MS 
Exchange" was not accepted while opening the message store.
 07.07.2005, 17:07:01: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received

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Re[2]: 3.51

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello James,
Thursday, July 7, 2005, 5:46:03 AM, you wrote:

JJW> On 7/7/05, Allie Martin wrote:
>> Men don't experience that .. 

JJW> Well, I'll have to confirm this with Tony. He has been clarifying a
JJW> lot of such matters for me lately.

JJW> But thanks for your specification of gender. All this time I thought
JJW> it was "Allie", like maybe Ally McBeal with an "ie" instead of a "y".
JJW> :-)

This  is  where  x-rogues  really  help. If you send a real picture of
course. ;)

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Hidden state

[Vili]

Hello tbbeta,

Just FYI: we got the bugfix report, that this bug is fixed in 3.51.1:

"I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to
the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized that
there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and the mail
preview. But *where* is the focus at this time? "

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Re: OT: 3.51

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 13:19:25 +0200 Roelof Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Please don't feel singled out Tony.


I don't and do not in anyway shape or form feel singled out.

If trouting people turns you on then who am I to question your sexuality.

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OT: 3.51

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Tony,

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:51:57 +0100GMT (7-7-2005, 12:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

TB> As a Doctor you'll know that when women live together their monthly cycles
TB> tend to synchronize. It wasn't too long ago I had four females living
TB> here... It's a miracle I'm sane  


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Re: 3.51

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 05:22:15 -0500 Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 This is the first time I've been asked that. :)


As a Doctor you'll know that when women live together their monthly cycles 
tend to synchronize. It wasn't too long ago I had four females living 
here... It's a miracle I'm sane :)


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Re: 3.51: Funny first dialog :-)

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 12:20:19 +0200 Peter Hampf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Have a look at the attached picture :-)


So would I have to sign my name as ony ?

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Re: 3.51

[James (Jay) Walker]

On 7/7/05, Allie Martin wrote:
> Men don't experience that .. 

Well, I'll have to confirm this with Tony. He has been clarifying a
lot of such matters for me lately.

But thanks for your specification of gender. All this time I thought
it was "Allie", like maybe Ally McBeal with an "ie" instead of a "y".
:-)

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Re: 3.51

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 12:15:59 +0200 Manuel Breitfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Let me just say, that a short smile ran over my face, though my TV
reports  about London. :(


I'm watching it now. London is completely grid locked. So glad I don't live 
there anymore.


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Re: 3.51

[Allie Martin]

Hi Tony,
   On 7/7/2005 11:09 AM +0100, you wrote:

> Allie, as a married man you know full well men do experience that.

LOL! I can't help but wonder though if my name is again a source of
confusion. I've been referred to as her/she and even sent private
messages with obvious connotations that I'm assumed to be female. This
is the first time I've been asked that. :)

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Re: 3.51

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hello Tony,

On Thursday, 07 July 2005 at 12:09 you (Tony Boom) wrote:

> Women get it, men suffer from it.

Let me just say, that a short smile ran over my face, though my TV reports 
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Re: 3.51

[Tony Boom]

--On 7 July 2005 05:03:40 -0500 Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Or could it be just your time of the month?


Men don't experience that .. unless you do?


Allie, as a married man you know full well men do experience that.

Women get it, men suffer from it.



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Re: 3.51

[Allie Martin]

Hi James,
   On 7/7/2005 9:04 AM +0300, you wrote:

> Or could it be just your time of the month?

Men don't experience that .. unless you do? Is that why you're asking?
:)

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Re: 3.51

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hi *Jay*,

On Thursday, 07 July 2005 at 08:56 AM you (James (Jay) Walker) wrote:

> First of all, the name is "Jay" or, if you like, "jaywalker". Not
> James - never James. That's too British for my current incarnation.

Allright, Avi. :-P

>> I'm feeling the same, the numbering system should be more user-friendly.
>> The question is, if there are really international standards?! No, there
>> aren't, are there?

> If you say so. I really don't know. But I would have imagined that the
> CVS numbering system comes pretty close to being one.

Yes, it comes pretty close to being *one*, but not the only one. ;-)
I must admit, I dislike this numbering system. 3.2 is lower than 3.13? No, not 
for me...

>> The only international standard which implies user-friendliness is to
>> have consistency.

> The example of Microsoft Windows comes to mind. And, even though we
> are only talking about some marketed versioning system rather than the
> internal system, my concern is ultimately with what the users see,
> i.e. the marketed versioning.

I'm sure I didn't get this paragraph right, but when you speak abut Windows 
and marketing versioning, I think of some "aliases" as Win XP stands for 
NT5.1
TB! has never had anything like that, so numbering would also be consistent if 
they drop a v4.00 after v3.74.
I just feel Rit should know whether they use two or three dots, use a, b or rc 
to categorize alpha, beta and release candidates, use names as "Pre-Beta", 
"Pre-Release" or something curious like "Return", "Rush" or "Pranayama".

>> But the system should proof that each TB! user could determine which
>> version is the newest and why it's like that.

> Right. And also what follows on a beta series (as Alexander rightly
> mentioned).

Yep, that's what I think too.

>> Now I've had the time of my life No I never felt like this before.
>
> Oh my! That PMS is more contagious than I ever imagined.

;-)

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OT: IMAP: Fastmail missing messages

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Clive,

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:04:49 +0100GMT (7-7-2005, 9:04 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

>> It's set to custom. It's set to delete any message with a spam score
>> greater than 15 and to place messages with a spam score greater than
>> 5 in my junk message folder.

CT> Mine's more aggressive. It's set to reject messages >10 and I don't
CT> lose messages I need..


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Re: IMAP: Fastmail missing messages

[Clive Taylor]

Hello Allie,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 9:00:16 PM, you wrote:

> It's set to custom. It's set to delete any message with a spam score
> greater than 15 and to place messages with a spam score greater than
> 5 in my junk message folder.

Mine's more aggressive. It's set to reject messages >10 and I don't
lose messages I need..

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Re: IMAP: Fastmail missing messages

[Clive Taylor]

> I am using the free version of Fastmail and it does not allow for
> changing the settings for SPAM.

This MIGHT be the problem, Stuart. Full and enhanced accounts have a
customisable spam filter. It could be worth dropping a note to FM's
support (or a post in the forum). They're quite responsive to these
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