Re: The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA)
Hello NetVicious, I am going back to 4.0.32.4 as this is the last version that does not suffer from that bug and the other serious bug that makes messages disappear when folder properties are changed (introduced in 4.0.34 I think). Or does anyone have a more stable version pre 4.1.1.1? I think if you used a 4.1.x beta or a high version of 4.0.39.x series you will have the newer indexes on your message base and you cannot downgrade to previous versions. So, you need a 4.0.39.x version, not 4.0.39.39. You are of course right, that is important for anyone reading this! I forgot to mention that I did a backup before switching from my good ol' 32.4 to 39.39. When switching back I did an unix mailbox export of all messages that were created after the backup and simply copied them back to the older version. That worked fine, don't seem to miss any files yet. -- Martin TB! 4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA)
Just a note to everyone thinking about using this (last non-upgrade-fee) version until he's ready to pay for the next version: This version seems to suffer from a bug in the sorting office that does not allow to change a memo that is set as action. When you change the memo text to be set it is not saved! I am going back to 4.0.32.4 as this is the last version that does not suffer from that bug and the other serious bug that makes messages disappear when folder properties are changed (introduced in 4.0.34 I think). Or does anyone have a more stable version pre 4.1.1.1? -- Martin TB! 4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA)
Hello Tbbeta, I just installed that version (I'll not upgrade yet until my company decides which client to use in the future) coming from 4.0.32.4 and it told me it converts the database and this would enable multiple flags to be set, if I recall correctly. How do I use that feature? Found no hint on this list how to do that...but sounds like something I waited for a long time. Maybe some good soul (nearly wrote sole ;-) will spend a second and explain to me ... -- Martin TB! 4.0.39.39 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
First Click eaten by Editor Window
Hello Tbbeta, Hope I manage to explain: when you set in the cursor in the mail editor window somewhere, set the focus to e.g. the subject field, and then click again in the editor (not where the cursor was before, but somewhere else) the cursor stays where it was before you clicked in the subject field. This might be by design, I could imagine some people would not want to have the cursor replaced but rather continue where they were. But for me this is the source of constant errors and deleting: sometimes I add another addressee or change the subject, then notice a typo in the text and click there and start to type...but the text gets typed somewhere else then. So I would like to know how many of you would prefer it my way and how many would like to keep it as it is. Depending on this I would file a request for a change or a request for a preferences option. -- Martin TB! 4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: First Click eaten by Editor Window
Hello Marek, Hope I manage to explain: when you set in the cursor in the mail editor window somewhere, set the focus to e.g. the subject field, and then click again in the editor (not where the cursor was before, but somewhere else) the cursor stays where it was before you clicked in the subject field. when You move focus from headers to body, template with macros is activated, so if You use %CURSOR macro, cursor is placed where macro is defined in a template. Hm, hope I get you right, but when I move the focus from header to body the cursor is NOT placed where I defined it in the template, but where I finished writing before I clicked on the subject header. So I do not think this has something to do with templates. Will have a look at %MODIFYONCE though, looks like something useful. -- Martin TB! 4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.13
Hello Maxim, Hello Roelof, Friday, October 03, 2008, 14:52:13, you wrote: Is anybody encountering the same problem? We have removed this beta version from the website. 4.0.34.13 is still unavailable. Just lost one complete set of messages after changing folder properties, thought my version was immune because its the last MSI! So all normal not beta users will also encounter this problem! Will there be a fixed version soon? Which version should we go back to in order to avoid the folder problem? I'd propose you reupload the last working msi, or a lot of (nonbetalistreading) users will run into serious problems! -- Martin TB! 4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center showing emtpy pane
Hello Tbbeta, http://www.nachbild.de/temp/tb_empty_cm.png Strange thing: since 4.0.31 I get this emtpy connection manager window, where the window below shines through (actually the pixels get stuck, i.e. when I move the CM-Window, the screenshot inside moves along. So whats missing is the list of sent/received mails. I already removed the registry key connection manager to reset the position, no change. Anyone else experiencing this? -- Martin TB! 4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New thread sorting: what's wrong with it?
Hello Tbbeta, http://www.nachbild.de/temp/tb_new_thread_sorting.png I have this list sorted by creation date, with new thread sorting activated. As far as I understand it, that option sorts a thread into the list according to its newest item, right? As you can see from the screenshot the marked thread is clearly not sorted by its newest item, because that item is from 31.07., the item below is from 28.07. and the item above is from 30.07. Looks like the item used for sorting is the first item, from 29.07. Am I sitting on my brain, or what's going wrong there? Seems to me this already worked some versions ago, didn't it? -- Martin TB! 4.0.26 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.0.26.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler: Remind later does not work
Hi, I just had the problem that an event I set to remind later did not reoccur. I had the event set to remind me of a mail to be answered at 10:00 and a reminder one second before the event starts. I did not have the time to work on that email at 10:00, so I clicked remind later 5 minutes. TB warned me that the notification starts after the event. Change notification time?. I clicked no, because being notificated 5 minutes later is exactly what I want. The alert popup disappeared, but 5min later nothing happened! So I made another test and this time in the dialog Change notification time? I clicked Yes. This simply brought me back to the alert popup. Errrm...? Am I supposed to open the event, change the event time and save it again??? Is this a bug in the current beta? Or what would be the correct way to be reminded again after 5 minutes? Thanks, Martin Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18: Two TB! entries in Task Manager
Hello Ian, I think I have worked out why there are two entries in Task Manager under applications, but some don't see it. If you have your preferences set to Do not put The Bat! to Task Bar, then you will only see one entry in Task Manager Applications tab. Thanks a lot Ian, that was awfully helpful! I did not have the Show always in taskbar ticked at all, but I rather have a icon in taskbar than in task manager (and my task switcher Task Switch XP). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello Thomas, Thanks for jumping in, as intended. You quoted me and wrote: MS It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think MS this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to MS delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time MS ago, maybe? PMFJI. I think this is the logical way. The most recent address is actually most likely the one that I use most often, and therefore most likely the correct address. MS I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically. Please no! I would ensure that it always shows a non-desired address first. I think I would disable autocomplete from history then (and grieve for it). I think this is a misunderstanding, because in the email before that I wrote: MS I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above MS mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the MS list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter. MS MS BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be MS hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there? So I thought it was obvious that I did *not* mean the list that pops up as soon as you start typing (let's call it the autocomplete list). There, I agree, the last used item should be on top. Instead I meant the list of manually entered addresses (let's call it the manual address list, that's the one that opens when you click the down-arrow-button on the right of an address field). I think an alphabetic list would make more sense there, since this is just a list of all addresses I ever typed in manually, so it would be more easy to find an item. Or am I getting something wrong here? MS Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way MS you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused MS entries. And I use the autocomplete function to autocomplete email addresses - there you see how people use it differently. ;-) That's right again. I too use the autocomplete list to autocomplete, and the manual address list for managing manually entered addresses ;-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, You are darn right! I was pretty sure that worked or at least it did in the past. But I am now not sure because, since a long time ago, I only auto-complete from AB and not History. That's what I think, too. Maybe that never worked, I can't remember either. But as it works somehow to delete items this is ok for me. Too lazy to file a bug report here...again :-} maybe Art will do? :-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello Art, I'm not sure when it stopped working in the 4.0 process, but you were able to delete addresses that appear in the Autocomplete drop down box in the To, CC, BCC fields in a message. Previously, all you had to do was scroll down with the down arrow, and hit delete on the one you wanted to delete. I am not sure what you mean by down arrow: the cursor down-key on your keyboard or the TB!-button on the right side of the address-field with the arrows pointing downwards? Here I can NOT delete an entry when I start typing the first letters, the list pops up and I use the cursor to go down the list, and hit delete. I can, however, delete the entry this way when I use the above mentioned button on the right side of the address field to open the list, go down with the cursor key and hit enter. BTW: This list shows all entries in a non alphabetic order, so it can be hard to find the entry to delete. What order is used there? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, What order is used there? I'd say it's last used on top. ;-) I'd say obviously my English is not good enough to express sarcasm...that sort order you mention was my first guess, too. But I don't think its a good solution. I should better have said: It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to delete or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time ago, maybe? I'd prefer to have it sorted alphabetically. Hm, but I guess that's something that depends on taste and the way you use that list. I use it only to delete erratic or unused entries. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Autocomplete
Hello MAU, It looks like it's the last used address on top. Do you all think this is a logical way to sort a list where you search an address to delete... If I know which address I want to delete, I just start typing it in the corresponding field and the drop down list will open displaying only those addresses that match what I have so far typed. At any moment, I can use the down arrow key to get into the list, scroll if needed, and delete. Yes, that would be nice, and that is exactly what's not working here and on Art's computer! As soon as the list opens automatically (and not by me pressing on the button on the right) I can't delete an entry! ...or one that you can't remember because you used it a long time ago, maybe? If you can't remember it, how are you going to look for it? ;-) Can't remember *exactly*, that's what I meant. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello MAU, So I had a look at your registry settings (thanks for sending those along) and noticing that while your settings had a key with the correct locale id for each language ( 1034 for Spanish-Spain, 1033 for English-United States) the registry key my file was registered in had a key of 7, obviously not a valid locale. Did you have CSAPI German selected as the speller language when you created the user dictionary? No, there was no option for that. Only a list of languages, and, funny enough, german three times. But I tested all of them, and none worked. What finally made it work was something you mentioned in one of your earlier mails about the subject, namely some code in the first line of the .dic file. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I added this to my CSAPI_DE_UD.dic and voilà! It works! a valid locale. None of my CSAPI user dictionaries include any numeric or alphanumeric code in the first line, they are just a plain text list of words, one per line. What I am guessing happened to you is that you started with a completely empty user dictionary while I did Import my old user dictionaries right after creating the new ones. That's right, that's the way I did it. Again, my guess is that if right after creating the dictionary you had added a first word from the same dialog, it would have worked. I think that the '#LID 0' is just taken as the first word in the dictionary and it is probably displayed as such if you do a Spell Checker/Dictionaries and select your CSAPI German one. Yes, that is well possible. The '#LID 0' does, however, not appear in my list of words. So I think it's even more easy to - create a textfile with the line #LID 0 in it Yes, it seems easier but with the 'risk' of having to create several Registry keys manually. And also, #LID 0 is not needed, just one (any) word that you want to be in your user dictionary. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I forgot to ask, which American English dictionary? Because I have: #LID 1033 1 89 (in accent.tlx) #LID 24941 (in correct,tlx) #LID 1033 1 1017 (in Ssceam.tlx) #LID 24941 (in userdic.tlx) Neither of them...alongside with the new german dic I also created an American English one, and when I looked into that file it had the '#LID 0' in it. So to me it seems like this is a miracle that only the developers can work out. I don't even think we can file a useful bug report, because what we did and what worked does not follow a logic principle. Maybe let's file a report for the greyed out buttons, and then we check if these are working correctly and creating the right registry keys. Can you do this? You are much quicker as I am I guess... Thanks again! -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.3: Extraneous characters when pasting as quoted
Hello MAU, When I copy some text from the preview pane and then 'Past as Quotation' I get an extra character at the end of the quoted paragraph that is displayed as a square. Looking at the source code this looks like an ACK (non printable) character, because it is '=06' in quoted printable format, which represents the ACK character. No clue where this might come from. I copied the above quote just the same way, let's see if it has an extra character when it reaches you. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The new Editor Font Selection with Profiles: Problems with reading HTML-Mails
Hello Tbbeta, I am having trouble with the display of received HTML Mails since 4.x. Let me explain: I have a fixed width pixel font set for writing and reading text mails (profont http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont/) that works only in 8px size. In 3.99.29 it was used for all text-only display, and HTML-Mails without font definition were displayed using another font, because there were different settings for MicroEd/Plain Text and HTML/Windows. But since 4 there is only one font definition, divided into different sets for different locales. That's good idea, but it has the disadvantage that the same font is now used for displaying plain text and html-text (without font definition). This has the effect that my fixed width font is used for normal text in HTML-Mails (which it shouldn't), and the size also differs from what I defined in the settings, so its near to unreadable. I'd rather not switch the font because is is so perfectly readable. So I switched to display HTML/Text Emails as text first as a temporary workaround. But what I'd prefer was another setting in preferences - viewer/editor - profiles - [profile] that allows me to set Plain Text or HTML (or both) for a profile, in addition to the locales/languages selectable right now. What do you think? Maybe I am the only one having that problem. And please: no font discussion now, I searched for fonts to read plain text and program code on the net long enough to be sure I am using the font that suits me best...! ;-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello Maggie, Can this #LID stand for Language ID Number? Good thought! I tried and entered #LID 1031 into my german dic, and now it shows up as Language: GE in the dictionary selection dialog! Before that it was displayed as Language: any there. So thanks, Maggie! Another miracle solved. I have a new claim for Ritlabs: TheBat: the DIY-Mailclient :-) -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.3] Character Set not properly set in outgoing Messages
Hello Volker, The character sets of all of my eMail accounts are set to Latin 9 Indeed they are ;-) I had a similar problem, and as far as I remember this was due to the fact that TB (by itself or initially, I don't know) set the character set for my account(s) to latin9. Check here: (Your account) - properties - Templates - New Message - Use Character Set If this is your problem, too, this is not a problem of 4.0.14.3, as this happened to me long ago (with the 3.x version), as I see when I look at my older mails (all latin9). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello Maxim, [+] User dictionaries supported in CSAPI Would like to report that I cannot add words to the german CSAPI dictionary. If the above announcement means this should be fixed I cannot confirm. If this problem is related to another bug please let me know. Symptoms: I have automatic spell check (CSAPI German) activated, and if I click Add to dictionary in the context menu of an unknown word nothing happens, and the word is still unknown (red line below). Anything else I can do? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello MAU, I have automatic spell check (CSAPI German) activated, and if I click Add to dictionary in the context menu of an unknown word nothing happens, and the word is still unknown (red line below). Anything else I can do? When you right click on the unknown word and if you then select Dictionary to add to, is your CSAPI users dictionary selected? That is, with a checkmark on its left as in attachment? MAU, I don't seem to have the same context menu as you do...strange isn't it? See attachment. Using MicroEd here. Anything else I can try? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2attachment: contextUnknownWord.png Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hallo Jens, MAU, I don't seem to have the same context menu as you do...strange isn't it? See attachment. Using MicroEd here. Anything else I can try? I am using MicroEd here too, i have disabled anything than Hunspell, but i have the Menue Dictionary to add to under Add to Dictionary. I've read this before, but I am still not sure what you all mean by disabling a dictionary. I searched all relevant dialogs, but can't find a way to enable, disable or even just see which dictionaries I have or am using. What am I missing here? Did you customize Menues? I did, but not that one. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3)
Hello MAU, When you right click on the unknown word and if you then select Dictionary to add to, is your CSAPI users dictionary selected? That is, with a checkmark on its left as in attachment? At first I did not see this context menu, but I found out that when two languages are selected for spell checking I get the option to add to directory . But to get back to your question: no, I can't find the german CSAPI. That brings me to the idea that I would really like to check which spell checker I am using when I select German. It works very good, that's why I think its CSAPI, but can I check somewhere? Thanks for helping me out. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: context2languages.png Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Hello MAU, First of all let me say how much I appreciate your efforts and time you use to help me. Ritlabs and this list can count themselves lucky to have someone like you on the messageboard. You've helped me so many times already...that beer deal still active? ;-) Yes, but it may not be straight forward (I'll explain why), let's see if I can lead you to it. Your explanation was absolutely perfect, and while it did not work here it surely pointed me into the right direction. Heres what I did: I (as suggested by you) keep older TB versions, so it was no problem to return to 3.99.29 and start the dialog, select New File, enter the filename, close the dialog. The dictionary appeared (strangely enough as Language: any beside the select box) in 3.99. But it did not work: it got lost when I reopened 3.99, and was not available in 4.0. The dic file was empty and I could not add words to it, no way. So I had a look at your registry settings (thanks for sending those along) and noticing that while your settings had a key with the correct locale id for each language ( 1034 for Spanish-Spain, 1033 for English-United States) the registry key my file was registered in had a key of 7, obviously not a valid locale. So I changed it to 1031 (German - Germany) but still no luck. What finally made it work was something you mentioned in one of your earlier mails about the subject, namely some code in the first line of the .dic file. So I looked at the american english dictionary and found in the first line: #LID 0 I added this to my CSAPI_DE_UD.dic and voilà! It works! So I think it's even more easy to - create a textfile with the line #LID 0 in it - create a registry key under [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\CommonSpeller with the locale ID for the desired language (see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0h88fahh.aspx for those) - add a REG_DWORD (DWORD Value) named count in it, set the value to 1 - add a REG_SZ (String Value) in it named File #1 with the path to the file created in step 1. Hm, not really easy. But for me that worked... So thanks again for helping. Hope my solution helps someone else, too. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to create a german CSAPI user dictionary (was: Add words to german CSAPI not possible (was: Re: 4.0.14.3))
Not so long ago I wrote: - create a registry key under [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\CommonSpeller with the locale ID for the desired language (see http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0h88fahh.aspx for those) I forgot: - here: create another key called User Directories and in there: - add a REG_DWORD (DWORD Value) named count in it, set the value to 1 - add a REG_SZ (String Value) in it named File #1 with the path to the file created in step 1. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TB asks for password I never entered!
Hello Tbbeta, Strange: suddenly TB asks me for a password when I try to send queued mail from the outbox. I never password protected any of my accounts, though! And it asks for the password only when I try to send queued mail, not when I open the inbox, outbox or settings, or do anything else with the account. I can even open the mail and send it via immediate send. What's going on? Is there anything I can check/do? BTW: the text of the message box is somewhat strange, it says: --- Please input account password for [ (input field) ] --- For what? When I simply hit enter I get: - Access violation at address 00B50D88 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0118. - Unfortunately I don't have a 3.x version here to test. -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Miroslav, Was this macro ever present? I only know the following CSAPI macros. Must have been...as it worked nicely on 3.x %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GE Tried this one, and it works! Thanks a lot, could have thought of this myself though ;-) Background information: GN was supposed to switch to Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung (the new orthography introduced for the german language some years ago) while GE was used for old orthography. But as far as I tested I am using new orthography with GE now...don't ask me how this works. -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI user dictionaries not available - my workaround
Hello MAU, I can't really say to all languages. But I could not get any of the user dictionaries for the three above mentioned languages to work. And they all work with v3.99.29. MAU, I should learn to read...you were talking about *user dictionaries*...I thought you meant the dictionaries as such. *negg slaps his forehead* Sorry for wasting your time... -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Tbbeta, I have the following macro in my quicktemplates to switch to the german spell checker: %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GN%- That worked in 3.99.29, but does not work any more on 4.x - 4.0.14.1 I suppose that's because the key for German Language is no longer GN (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to point this way). Anybody knows a way to find out what the correct code would be? -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello Uwe, %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GN%- That worked in 3.99.29, but does not work any more on 4.x - 4.0.14.1 As I understood from previous discussion %LANGUAGE=GN should be enough. At least it works for SSCE. I cannot test CSAPI as I don't have Office 97. No, '%LANGUAGE=GN' does not work. -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4 : CSAPI dictionary macro %language not working as before
Hello MAU, Like Uwe, I can't test with CSAPI because I don't have any German CSAPI dictionaries. But I have just installed the SSCE ones and '%LANGUAGE=GN' works fine from a GN quick template when I type GNCtrl+Space. Yeah, seems to me like its a problem with the CSAPI switching. But IIRC the CSAPI suggestions were much better than the ones built into TB 3.x (I guess these were the SSCE, or am I wrong?). -- Martin TB! 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI user dictionaries not available - my workaround
Hello MAU, As you may know, I've been using CSAPI dictionaries for years and 'compiled' user dictionaries both for Spanish and British English. Up to version 3.99.29 everything works but, as I have reported in BT https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6735 CSAPI user dics are not working for any of the 4.x versions. I am not sure if I misinterpret the whole thing, but as I reported in Set default spell check language or use Makro on TBUDL (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I believe that I don't have any other german spellchecker installed beside the CSAPI one, and it seems to work. Are you sure that CSAPI user dics are not working for any of the 4.x versions. applies to all languages? -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! offline usage
Hello Mark, TB! fetching mail seems to have priority over all other programs and makes all other tasks wait until TB has finished doing so. I cannot remember having seen this behaviour. TB runs all the time, even when I have disconnected the notebook, and everything runs fine. Is your computer really blocked when TB tries to connect to the server, and can't? Or do I misunderstand the whole point maybe? I once asked for an offline mode for a different reason: I am sometimes connected over an expensive mobile dataconnection and don't want TB to get all emails, only headers, then. So I deactivate the check mail every XX which can be done by a commandline parameter on startup of TB...however I installed my notebook freshly and can't seem to find the parameter, but if you search in the archives you'll surely find it. -- Martin TB! 3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! offline usage
Hello, So I deactivate the check mail every XX which can be done by a commandline parameter on startup of TB...however I installed my notebook freshly and can't seem to find the parameter, but if you search in the archives you'll surely find it. Found it: To deactivate checking: thebat.exe /ADDU=negg;AutoCheck=0 To activate checking: thebat.exe /ADDU=negg;AutoCheck=1 Replace negg with the accountname. If you also use Check on startup then you need to also include CheckOnActivate=0 into the commandline (with 0 an 1 respectively). -- Martin TB! 3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
All non-Common Filters gone (was: 3.99.7)
Hello TBBeta, This version silently killed all Sorting-Office Filters that were not Common. Last version I used was 3.99.5 (I think, unfortunately I was overwriting the thebat.exe when updating) Any chance the filters are still there but just aren't displayed? Where (in which file) should I have a look then? Still have a backup of all tb user files, so I think I can restore them. Anyone else with this problem? If not I'll have a look if the filters are still there with the older version on my office computer tomorrow. (Notice for the Ritlabs Guys: I have my TB-datafiles on a network share. Currently this network share is only available via windows' offline files feature. Could have anything to do with that? Did you add a necessary file somewhere else than the folder I selected in Options-System-Maildirectory? ) -- Martin TB! 3.99.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All non-Common Filters gone (was: 3.99.7)
Hello Zygmunt, I confirm the filter loss. Not all filters were disappeared after update to 3.99.7, but randomly selected ones. I retrieved them from the backup, but it seems the filters set is not stable. As you can see I went back to 3.99.05 and the filters are back! Yippie. Seems like it's just a matter of display/use of the filters, they don't seem to really be gone. -- Martin TB! 3.99.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish for Labels: How to assign them to a message (was possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?)
Hello Thomas, MS But as I think about it: a submenu or context menu would not be very MS effective when selecting more than one label for a message. Maybe a MS shortcut could make a popup window (like ctrl-shift-i for memos) where MS you have a bunch of checkboxes for each of your labels? Did you see the screenshots MAU attached to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? That looks good to me. Yes, but as I said: I don't like the thought of having to open a flip-open menu three times to assign three labels to a message. I'd prefer to have the menu open with checkboxes or something, or a solution like assigning addresses to the to box with the rightmost button (a list with and and and ) that opens on click and closes on click or on escape keypress. -- Martin TB! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
9val's offer about commandline parameters
Hello Tbbeta, hello 9val! Some time ago there was a little discussion about commandline parameters to change user account settings. On Fri, 060704 you (9val) wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, there was added a little automatical bridge to user settings, so just ask needed parameters, I'll describe how to change them. Ok, thanks for that offer, even though I am a little late here are some of the parameters I would like to change with commandline params: - Periodical checking each [ ] minutes - Mail Dispatcher: Invoke automatically at each mail check - Mail Dispatcher: Show all messages left on server -- Thanks! Martin TB! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.85.03 3.86.03: mWatchRepliesInItems not displaying items in Actions pane of Customise
Hello MAU, If I want to use one of these items (watch folders) in a customised menu or toolbar and I go to Actions/All Actions/Message Controller the mWatchRepliesInItems container is empty. See mWatchRepliesInItems_no.png. Confirmed. By the way: do you happen to still have that old bug that once you selected a message as watch in and you click on another message in the list and select the watch in context menu again that second message is shown as watched even though it isn't? I thought they had that bug resolved? -- Martin TB! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wish for Labels: How to assign them to a message (was possibility of assigning more than 1 Colour Group?)
Hello MAU, Ever since many years ago I moved to TB from my beloved Virtual Access I have missed a feature VA had, Bookmarks. Just supported that wish strongly. Can the group think about a solution as easy as possible to *add* a new label/bookmark if one needs to? Maybe similar to watched folders there should be a new label entry in the submenu where you assign the labels? But as I think about it: a submenu or context menu would not be very effective when selecting more than one label for a message. Maybe a shortcut could make a popup window (like ctrl-shift-i for memos) where you have a bunch of checkboxes for each of your labels? -- Martin TB! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.81.16-18: Problem with Watch Reply Folders (chat folders)
Hello MAU, Anyone using watched folders noticing this (MAU ?) Sorry for my late reply. My left arm broken tendon needed surgery and I was in hospital for a couple of days. :-) no need to apologize...I was just hoping you'd answer, because you're the only one I know of using watch reply. Yes, I fully confirm the problem (at least with the release version) and that is why I have reverted to v3.80.06. I have also seen your message in TBUDL. If you log a BT report, I will certainly support it. As always I didn't notice the other message was on TBUDL...my mid was possibly rather useless there. Maybe I'll find the time on the weekend to log a bug report. -- Martin TB! 3.81.15 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Downloaded Pro instead of Home [was: Re: New release 3.85.02]
Version 3.85.02 is available. Check for new version (now work ok) or http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-85-02.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-85-02.msi At first I used the update function in 3.81.18 RC2 (Home) to get the new version, but that one downloaded the Pro instead of the Home version. -- Martin TB! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.81.16-18: Problem with Watch Reply Folders (chat folders)
Hello Tbbeta, Since .16 I have a problem with my Watch Reply Folders: 1. When I try to make a message watched my old folders don't show up in the menu Specials - Watch Replies in - ... 2. When I restore them each time a new message is in the watched thread a chat window pops up (that hasn't happened before). Anyone using watched folders noticing this (MAU ?) -- Martin TB! 3.81.18 RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.18 RC2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Accidentally deleting folders using smart space reading
Hello Tbbeta, I am using smart space reading. Sometimes things happen like this: - I see there are new mails in a folder, so I click on it - The mail is deep inside a thread, so I press Space to open the first unread message in that thread - I find the thread to be not of much interest, so I press Del. In this case I chose to delete the folder, because the folder view is still the view with the focus on it, and so the folder is the thing Delete acts on. Up to now I was always lucky enough to read the message box Delete Folder? good enough, but one day I know I will delete the whole folder instead of the message. Don't you agree: when using smart space reading the focus should switch to the list view, I think, because I am now reading a *mail* not a *folder*. -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Still trouble with watch replies in folders
Hello Tbbeta, I still have trouble with the submenu watch replies in. It simply shows too many folders. I have two folders called RE that are chat folders used for watching replies. But TB shows me five folders: http://www.aspekt1.net/ms/temp/tb_watch_replies_in.gif Where do those other folders come from? Why is \\\lists\OziExplorer shown as a chat folder, as it is a normal folder? Does anyone have similar problems? -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still trouble with watch replies in folders
Hello Vili, I still have trouble with the submenu watch replies in. It simply shows too many folders. I have two folders called RE that are chat folders used for watching replies. But TB shows me five folders: http://www.aspekt1.net/ms/temp/tb_watch_replies_in.gif Where do those other folders come from? Why is \\\lists\OziExplorer shown as a chat folder, as it is a normal folder? Because it contains the word re in explo_RE_r . That is what I see as a common feature of these folders. Bug or bad settings... That might explain the \\\lists\OziExplorer, but what are those two \\\RE folders? They don't exist in my folder list (and there are no lost folders currently, too). Does anyone have similar problems? Could you show us your Watch replies in settings? Not sure what you mean by that, Vili? -- Thanks for your engagenment so far ;-) Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Still trouble with watch replies in folders
Hello Vili, 1. I made a new Chat folder: Folder, New Chat folder in my GMail account. 2. I accepted every default seting. 3. Checked the Watch replies in list, it shows //Gmail/Chat folder 4. Deleted the chat folder 5. I made a new chat folder in an other (called CC) account. 6. When I check the Watch replies in list for this CC/Chat folder account, it shows: //Gmail/Chat folder //CC/Chat folder 9Val, please check the code regarding this description, when invoking the watch folder list, something buggy there... Confirming this: the two \\\RE folders I mentioned earlier were still existing in the filesystem, even though they did not show up in folder list in TB. Deleting them manually (in Windows Explorer) made them disappear in TB too. -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Commandline Options not working (was: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available)
Hello 9Val, Syntax of /Add command line switch: Thebat.exe /ADD:arg1=value1;arg2=”value2”;…;argN=”valueN” Sorry to say that does not work at all here. I tried this commandline to modify my account negg: thebat.exe /ADD:U=negg;FromName=TEST;AutoCheck=1 Neither From Name nor AutoCheck was changed in any way. Did I get something wrong here? Please help ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Commandline Options not working (was: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available)
Hello 9Val, MS thebat.exe /ADD:U=negg;FromName=TEST;AutoCheck=1 MS Neither From Name nor AutoCheck was changed in any way. Did I get MS something wrong here? Please help ;-) Ooops, it is my fault :) Actually it was error in syntax description, it should be used without ':' /ADDU=something;FromName=... BTW, now it is corrected to work with ':' too. Sorry 9val, but I don't get it. I tried: thebat.exe /ADDU=negg;AutoCheck=1;CheckOnActivate=1 ...works fine! Both are activated now. But: thebat.exe /ADDU=negg;AutoCheck=0;CheckOnActivate=0 to deactivate them again does not work. I tried: AutoCheck=0 AutoCheck= AutoCheck=false AutoCheck= ...none of them works. Please help once more! -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.05 Beta is now available
Hello Marek, [*] Ability to change autochecking and check on startup from cmdline can YOu please describe cmdline syntax? Yes, please! This function would be much appreciated here! Ritlabs: please briefly give us a hint how to use this! -- Martin TB! 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AB: Export selection with accented letters in it to VCF: name changed:
Hello Mark, Try to export a selected record with First Name: Front Office Name : Invordering Cliënten to a VCF. This is what TB! makes of Cliënten: Cl=EBnten Looks like the i is missing. Shouldn't that be Cli=EBnten ? So I tried it here, and this is the resulting VCF: BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Front Office;Invordering Cli=EBnten FN;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Front Office Invordering Cli=EBnten REV:20060703T105618Z END:VCARD This seems to be correct. So it seems like I can't confirm your error in my Windows XP version (seeing that you use the same TB as I do). -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AB: Export selection with accented letters in it to VCF: name changed:
Hello Mark, MS Looks like the i is missing. Shouldn't that be Cli=EBnten ? Yes, I have made a mistake by omitting the letter i in my report. Ok, that explains it. Then the output is correct (I think, see below why). MS So I tried it here, and this is the resulting VCF: MS BEGIN:VCARD MS VERSION:2.1 MS N;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Front Office;Invordering Cli=EBnten MS FN;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Front Office Invordering Cli=EBnten MS REV:20060703T105618Z MS END:VCARD Cli=EBnten is not what I entered, It's what TB's export made of it... MS This seems to be correct. So it seems like I can't confirm your MS error in my Windows XP version (seeing that you use the same TB as I MS do). I don't get that. Unless you have not seen (due to your setup) what the original word looked like, namely with a diaeresis above the letter e (see attachment) Yes I saw the diaeresis. What I meant by this is correct is, that TB changed (encoded) the character ë to =EB by using the quoted printable encoding for the character. Have a look in your initial email, where you say: Try to export a selected record with First Name: Front Office Name : Invordering Cliënten Now press F9 (show source code of the email) and search for that passage there: it is encoded in the same way using =EB instead of ë. That is the way a program has to encode character that don't belong to the us-ascii characterset when using the quoted printable encoding, which is often used for email texts, too. So TB makes no mistake, it just uses the encoding to display a non ascii character in a VCF. And as I said: when I imported the VCF into Outlook it presented me the word Cliënten just right, so I am sure there is nothing wrong. -- Martin TB! 3.81.05 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.80.03: Wrong indication/selection of Watch folders
Hello MAU, I recently noticed that when I select a thread to watch and want to select what Watch folder to use, a number of watch folders may appear as ticked (Seee uploade Watch.gif). I also seen this, actually ever since I use watch folders. But I never reported it, mainly because I did not think I can describe it so anyone understands what I mean... While I sometimes see your problem (not always, seems like when I already used the context menu it does not appear) here another, maybe related problem also exists: watched folders are displayed that don't exist! I added a note and a second screenshot to your bugreport. (Hope you don't have the feeling I hijacked it, tried to remove my image but I can't...thought it would rather be attached to my note) -- Martin TB! 3.80.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: v3:Suggestion:General suggestion to all members regarding Subjects
Hello Vili, Please, in the future take care, how you select the Subject field of your mail. That many-many mails with Re: The Bat! 3.72.12 (Beta) is now available Subject I got today... it is not helpful, when I would like to read them... Yes, I think its a good suggestion, even though a lot of members will find it hard to remember the exact syntax ;-) anyway I think it should be considered a good habit to change the subject to something meaningful when the topic of a reply changes in some way (replying only to a small part of the original, changing the topic completely, and so on). I can remember someone proposing that already some time ago after one of those endless The Bat! XXX is now available threads. -- Martin TB! 3.72.10 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Pressing space in Quicksearch jumps to next unread
Hello tbbeta, I cannot tell when this started to happen, but recently I noticed that when trying to type two words pressing the spacebar after typing the first word makes TB jump to the next unread message, which is often in another folder. Thanks to SmartSpace activated in preferences the spacebar is my (and I think the standard) shortcut for Jump to next unread. But of course it should not be active while the focus is on the quicksearch field. Can anyone confirm this? -- Martin TB! 3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Strange Artifacts
Hello Stuart, If I click on Jernej's message and then on another /unread/ message from someone else I get bits of the original message left in the message pane (ss2.gif). If I click on another /unread/ msg all i well. I have the same problem. This seems to be related to using a bitmap font. We discussed this issue in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but so far there seems to be no solution other than use a truetype font that is capable of displaying utf8 fonts. Never tried this myself though. -- Martin TB! 3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.72.05 (Beta) is now available
Hello Giampaolo, Uhm I cannot understand how I could change my shortcuts. What have I to do in the Shortcuts Windows? Nobody answered this...how are you changing a shortcut in the Shortcut tab of the customizer? Tried double-click, enter, F2, Voodo and everything else I could think of...nothing happens. -- Martin TB! 3.72.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mail ticker hanging
Hello tbbeta, I noticed since a few versions (sorry cant be more precise) that the mailticker often seems to hang: it does not scroll anymore and the only thing thats readable in the ticker window is a mail I some time ago in that session. Anybody else having this problem? -- Martin TB! 3.71.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail ticker hanging
Hello Zygmunt, On Wednesday, February 22, 2006, at 16:08:18 [UTC+0100] (Wednesday, February 22, 2006 16:08 my local time) Martin Schuster wrote: I noticed since a few versions (sorry cant be more precise) that the mailticker often seems to hang: Is seems you have problems with graphic card performance. I had similar hangs some time ago and the solution was setting opacity of MailTicker to maximum value. Looks like that could have caused the problem. Now with no opacity it seems to work. Funny, its a brand new high power graphics card with newest drivers... Thanks, Zygmunt! -- Martin TB! 3.71.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail Ticker settings [was Re: Mail ticker hanging]
Hello Mary, And it was! At some installation, the Options/Preferences/MailTicker/folder preferences got changed. I don't even remember that folder-options button before, as a matter of fact. Same here, thought it was my fault that time. Some of the formerly watched folders somehow disappeared from the list some time ago. Good to know I am not alone ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.71.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.71.01 is now available
Hello 9Val, Fixes only issues reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as VF-autorefreshing is concerned it seems like all works fine! -- Martin TB! 3.71.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.71.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
String [' '] in From field prevents using Address in Reply
Hello tbbeta, This is a question for the standards- and encoding-pros: I just received an email containing the following from header (I deleted Name and Email to keep the sender's privacy): =?ISO-8859-1?Q?[NAME_DELETED]_=3C=5B=27__=27=5D=3E?= [EMAIL_DELETED] This header is displayed in the viewer as: From: [NAME_DELETED] [' '] [EMAIL_DELETED] But when I reply in the To: field I get only: [NAME_DELETED] [' '] I wonder using these characters complies with the standards, and TB behaves wrong, or if these characters are not allowed in the from part of an email, an I should notice the sender to remove them? -- Martin TB! 3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.10 'Qigong' | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
No newlines after %QUOTES
Hello tbbeta, I don't know if its a bug, could not find anything on the list, and I am stuck. I have template to insert quotes only if quotes exists, its called qp: --- %IF:%QUOTES'':'On %ODATESHORT you wrote: %QUOTES ':''%- --- This template is included in some of my personal templates I use for new mails but also for replies, thus the conditional quotes template: --- Hello %TOFNAME, %CURSOR Cheers, %FROMFNAME %QINCLUDE=qp%- %QINCLUDE=signature%- --- However, if qp is inserted, even though there are two newlines after the %QUOTES macro, the signature is put directly after the quotes: --- Hello Michael, | --- cursor Cheers, Martin Hi Martin How are you? Cheers, Michael This is wrong [My Signature]There should be 2 newlines [My Signature] [My Signature] Anyone knows why this is so? Thanks a lot! -- Martin TB! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No newlines after %QUOTES
Hello Roelof, I hoped you would answer ;-) Since what version do you encounter this problem? I just wrote this QTemplate some hours ago, so I can't tell (I don't collect previous version for a quick check downwards, like MAU does :) What are the effects when you delete a few instances of %-? When I delete the %- I get an extra newline for the quotes macro if no quotes exist. However, because of this additional newline the signature now is on its own line, but still I can't get no additional newlines between the quotes and the signature (would like to have some space there): - Hello Michael, | Cheers, Martin On 07.02.2006 you wrote: step° after this I want 2 blank lines _ but they are silently omitted :) [My signature] _ - -- Thanks for taking the time! Martin TB! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Auto delete reading confirmations
Hello Roelof and all the others, Hallo Matt, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:44:00 -0800GMT (2-2-2006, 18:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MT This may be more of a tbudl question Yes, it is. MT where the heck can I tell TB to auto-delete those cursed reading You can't delete the request for a reading confirmation, but you can ignore them: Account - Templates/Reading confirmations - Actions - Ignore What exactly is supposed to happen when I choose Ignore? Here a reading confirmation is still placed in the outbox, even though I chose Ignore...and I have to manually delete it. Maybe the reason for that is that the message was filtered into a common folder? I checked the common settings for that folder, there under confirmation the checkbox override... is NOT ticked. Am I getting something wrong here? Thanks for helping me out. -- Martin TB! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.70.07 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wish: Fallback font in case current font cannot display all characters?
Hello tbbeta, I just read mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Courier New is used when font cannot display the charset of the current mail ...and I am also still having my problem mentioned in... mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message shining through ...where I describe that when I use a bitmap font and read a message with some strange charset the font cannot display TB! switches the font to Courier, and when I read the next message with TB showing my font again the last message still shines through, which makes everything unreadable. So I thought: would someone support my wish to be able to (at least with some registry setting) set a fallback font TB uses in case the default font can't display all charsets? I don't like courier, and reading TBBETA nearly 1/4 of all messages are displayed like that. Also: am I the only one having that shinethrough problem? Or are there others being bugged? I would open a bug report then. -- Martin TB! 3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat v3.64.03 BETA
Hello MAU, Is there a BT report open? Maybe it is not a bug though and the feature was removed for some technical reasons when the UI was overhauled. The original discussion took place a while ago starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but as far as I can see not Bugreport or wish was posted then. Me got used to the new behavior, so the need for action is very low. I adjusted the column size to fit on my smallest screen (my laptop) and can live with the smaller columns on the other computers, too. Alto: If you really want this feature back maybe you should post a wish, that I would subsequently support. I don't suppose it is a bug, as the functionality plus the option setting disappeared at the same time. Looks intentional. -- Martin TB! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Impossible moving of cursor when Autocomplete list box appears
Hello Marek, when I enter name in To field, TB autocompletes address and displays Autocomplete list box. But I don't want to autocomplete it, so I hit LeftArrow, but nothing happens. And when I hit RightArrow, scrollbars in list box appears. Confirmed here. Still trying to find out why MAU does not seem to have the problem. Settings for List of Suggestions and Autocomplete are both on -- Martin TB! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Impossible moving of cursor when Autocomplete list box appears
Hello MAU, Hello Martin, when I enter name in To field, TB autocompletes address and displays Autocomplete list box. But I don't want to autocomplete it, so I hit LeftArrow, but nothing happens. And when I hit RightArrow, scrollbars in list box appears. Confirmed here. Still trying to find out why MAU does not seem to have the problem. Because I normally don't have Display list of suggestions from turned on. I just turned it on and now I can confirm what Marek described. Yes, after reading your other mail again I thought so. As a workaround the backspace key is still working, at least ;-) I assume this is a bug. I understand the need to scroll the list with the keyboard, if the list entries exceed the width of the popup list, but the use of left/right to edit the entered address seems to be more important to me. -- Martin TB! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Shift-Ctrl-R to show/hide Connection Centre
Hello Matt, On Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 8:58:04 AM [-0700], Matt Thoene wrote: I used to be able to show/hide the Connection Centre by using the Shift-Ctrl-R key combo. This has stopped working for me in this latest beta. If you look at View-Show Connection Centre the shortcut is shown but just does nothing. Do I need to mess with the Customise properties? So...nobody here but me having this problem? It's driving me crazy. Please confirm, or, if I'm missing something please let me know how I can fix this. Nothing happens when I press Ctrl-Shift-R. No further testing done however. -- Martin TB! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Export Addressbook as CSV adds /20
Hello tbudl, Exporting my addressbook into a csv file adds encoded strings for some characters, e.g. /20 for spaces, /0E/0A for linebreaks. I can't remember seeing this in my last exports, but those where some months ago, so I can't say when this started. Do you think this behavior is intended? Is there some rule in the csv-standards (are there standards for CSV at all) that says no spaces are allowed? Linebreaks are always a problem, I know, but spaces? Otherwise I'd think about posting a bug report. -- Martin TB! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problem importing from outlook to TB(V)
Hello Claude, CR and see what happened to my contacts... I saw that some of them have CR no problem, the memo field was filled correctly, but some of CR them have in the memo field, instead of the CR corresponding note field content present in outlook, the word binary and nothing CR else ... CR Have someone already seen this and do you know why it happened ? Nobody encountered this situation ? No. I import Outlook Contacts regularly, because I have to administer them there for some reasons. All the Contacts I checked so far have the note correctly imported. That, of course, does not mean your problem is not existing ;-) can you possibly find a pattern, which notes are imported ok and which ones are not? I would guess you have attachments in those contact info fields maybe? In outlook that is possible. -- Martin TB! 3.63.05 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Autosize
Hello Zygmunt, On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, at 03:24:07 [UTC+0100] (Tuesday, November 1, 2005 03:24 my local time) Alto Speckhardt wrote: Where did the Autosize feature for the columns in the message list window go? Has it been moved elsewhere or is this one of those just wanted to see if you were paying attention-things? Instead of removed Autosize option you should use Limit expansion of the first column to [x] levels on The Bat! Preferences / Messages dialog. This was changed several months ago. This does not achieve the same effect, AFAIK. Autosize democratly added additional width to *any* column when the client window was resized. This was very handy on a big monitor when changing TB's size. Limit expansion however only affects the first column, not all columns. They always keep their designated width. So even when I expand TB! over my 1900px wide display the columns are still as small as before. Me I am also missing the autosize feature, that disappeared a while ago when major rewrites of the interface took place. A little at least. But I know that finding the right behavior will be difficult, as some might prefer having the preview window changing its size automatically instead of the message list. -- Martin TB! 3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Hello MAU, MAU risked a carpal syndrome while typing his first novel: I know some of you will be surprised with the subject of this messages but, yes, it says what it says. [...] One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with this message, so don't bother to reply unless you really think you can point a real alternative for me ;-) Brilliant :-) Someone really had to point that out. Nobody is pressed to use TheBat, and those who do all have their reasons, I guess? -- Martin TB! 3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wouldn't you prefer that the To column displayed only the To: field?
Hello MAU, The 'To' column, if wide enough, displays the name/address(es) of the To: field *plus* the name(s)/address(es) of the Cc: field if there are any. This, adding the Cc names, is what I have come to the conclusion that should not be that way [...] I support that wish. -- Martin TB! 3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Folder settings not saved
Hello Peter, Hi all, here it is still not possible to change any folder settings and make them stick. They are lost the next time I access the folder. It worked well up to beta 36104, presenting a confirmation popup to save the changes or not. Not any more since 36105 and not in my copy of the 3.62 release. Is it just Dmitry, Martin, and me? See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5181 and https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5221 Confirmed. Changing the settings under Options-Messages-View Modes-[Ask|Ignore|Save] doesn't change anything either. Even in my 3.61.12 ... -- Martin TB! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, Thanks for taking the time! Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... OK, here we go. *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). [...] So I guess you use a keyboard shortcut to color a message? *Watch TBBeta* Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. Thought so. I have a similar folder here. One thing I always notice is that when I already marked a message to be watched, and I want to mark a second message, the checkmark is already there in the context menu. I have to uncheck it, and then go into the context menu again and re-check it to have the message appear in the watching folder...do you see the same? *To me* This one is a normal VF just looking for messages in TBBeta that are assigned to colour group 'R2me' (replies to me). Thats an interesting concept. Maybe I'll try that some day! And that's basically all. Feel free to ask is something is still unclear. Everything clear...and something learned again! Thanks a lot. -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, As you can see in attached GIF... Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... Just curious. Using TB permanently for half a year now, and still got the feeling I only discovered 15% of its functionality (much like with my own brain ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message shining through (was: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Hello 9Val, Sorry if this bug is already known: I was on holiday for three weeks and I don't know what to search for in this case: I clicked on Vladimirs reply mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then on another message, and some parts of vladimirs message shines through! See attached screenshot. I noticed that Vladimirs message is shown in courier, while usually all messages are shown in my default font (ProFont). Anybody else encountering this? -- Martin TB! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message shining through (was: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Still-on-holiday-Martin used his sunburnt mind to write the following useless stuff: Hello 9Val, Sorry if this bug is already known: I was on holiday for three weeks and I don't know what to search for in this case: I clicked on Vladimirs reply mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then on another message, and some parts of vladimirs message shines through! See attached screenshot. I noticed that Vladimirs message is shown in courier, while usually all messages are shown in my default font (ProFont). Anybody else encountering this? Sorry I picked the wrong message and forgot the attachment...just returning from my holidays... The message that caused the error was: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Vilius Šumskas on 17.Sep.05 17:06 -- Martin TB! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 msgShineThru.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cursor Tabbing problem in Headers
Hello Vili, Mary and Paul (sounds like Peter, Paul and Mary ;-), But if we think about it, I guess, there must be a possibility to step to the attach pane with Tab, regardless if it was possible before or not. It is a necessary improvement, even if it is strange to use at this moment. You will get used to it. Maybe the order should be to overcome your problems: Header fields Message body Attach pane As the others alredy pointed out this would not work, because TAB is an editing command. But Shift-Tab isn't. So my proposal for a shortcut would be: Keyboard action Cursor in -- To: TAB CC: ... TAB Subject: TAB Textarea Typing text... Shift-TABAttachments pane Currenty when pressing Shift-Tab the focus goes...uhm...I don't know. So we could possibly use that shortcut... BTW: has anybody found out where the focus goes when you press Shift-Tab while editing the text??? -- Martin TB! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cursor Tabbing problem in Headers
Hello Paul, MS Currenty when pressing Shift-Tab the focus goes...uhm...I don't know. MS So we could possibly use that shortcut... MS BTW: has anybody found out where the focus goes when you press MS Shift-Tab while editing the text??? In my version [Shift]+[Tab] reverses the tabbing sequence. This is an expected action. I write database applications and reverse tabbing is the behavior there too. I prefer a hotkey that uses the letter A in some manner to keep it more intuitive. What's going on here: now it does here, too??? I swear, when I wrote that mail this morning Shift-Tab brought me nowhere...! Well, in this case: forget my proposal. Of course reverse-tabbing is the expected behaviour, but as it did not work this morning I thought it was a good idea... -- Martin TB! 3.60.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Dispatch All does not dispatch all
Hello Thomas, MS Already found a workaround: when I activate Account Properties - MS Mail Management - Show all messages on server and check the account MS normally, all messages show up (as they should). Have you set the account to always use the dispatcher? This might be the difference between you and me. Hey, that was a good guess: this seems to be the problem. Try this (I just checked this here): - set Properties...invoke automatically at each mail check on an account you know has new mails - check mail, dispatcher opens. Set only read for some mails - use dispatch all messages: the mail does not show up even though it should - remove Properties...invoke automatically at each mail check - use dispatch all messages again: the message shows up If anyone can confirm I'll look for / open a bug report -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Dispatch All does not dispatch all
Hello Peter, Answering a 1 day old message (Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 23:32) Good evening Martin, MS Can anyone confirm this: a message marked MS [x] read, [ ] receive, [ ] delete MS in dispatcher does not show up any more when dispatching all MS messages. Hey, man, I am more than happy to see you posting this! I have reported this bug AGES ago and wrote certain messages to Max and 9Val about this in the past. There were some betas in between where it had been fixed (at least it seemed so) - but in the current version it IS still present. I can fully confirm it (again!). If the mail dispatcher is invoked automatically AND show all messages is NOT checked, it does NOT show all messages if you press shift+ctrl+f2! It suppresses those messages marked as read before. That is a very good short form to describe what I needed so many words for ;-) do you have the link to the bug at your fingertips, so I can support it? -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Dispatch All does not dispatch all
Hello tbbeta, Can anyone confirm this: a message marked [x] read, [ ] receive, [ ] delete in dispatcher does not show up any more when dispatching all messages. Full story: Just had a look into my pop3 mailbox on an exim4 server with another client (nPOP) and saw some messages still hanging around. No problem I thought to myself and did a Dispatch mail on server - all messages. But only one mail was reported (one I sent to the list a minute ago), the older messages did not show up. So I activated the pop.log in TB! and saw the server correctly reports 35 messages, but TB! only asks for the header of the last one: [23:14:04] S: +OK Maildrop locked and ready [23:14:04] C: STAT [23:14:04] S: +OK 35 175917 [23:14:04] C: LIST [23:14:04] S: +OK scan listing follows [23:14:04] S: 1 4978 [23:14:04] S: 2 4742 [23:14:04] S: 3 3023 ... and so on ... [23:14:04] S: 35 3598 [23:14:04] S: . [23:14:04] C: UIDL [23:14:04] S: +OK unique-id listing follows [23:14:04] S: 1 1088526495.12513 [23:14:04] S: 2 1088526495.12514 [23:14:04] S: 3 1088526495.12515 ... and so on ... [23:14:04] S: 35 1088526495.12958 [23:14:04] S: . [23:14:04] C: TOP 35 0 [23:14:04] S: +OK Message follows [23:14:04] S: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rest of the message header 35 All those messages were sent while I was on the road and I guess I removed checkmarks receive and delete in the dispatcher for those messages to download them later. But I remember seeing messages marked like this when using dispatch all messages. Just tried it again with another account (a webmail account at gmx germany) and the same behaviour there. This makes retrieving those mails impossible from withing TB! -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Dispatch All does not dispatch all
Hello Martin, Hello tbbeta, Can anyone confirm this: a message marked [x] read, [ ] receive, [ ] delete in dispatcher does not show up any more when dispatching all messages. ... This makes retrieving those mails impossible from withing TB! Already found a workaround: when I activate Account Properties - Mail Management - Show all messages on server and check the account normally, all messages show up (as they should). If I cancel dispatcher then and use Dispatch mail on Server - all messages again the lost messages show up there, too, suddenly, while they did not before the properties change! Mysterious. -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Dispatch All does not dispatch all
Hello Dwight, On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 4:32:17 PM, Martin Schuster wrote: This makes retrieving those mails impossible from withing TB! you just have to flag them to be recieved. my recollection is that you can select all in some way. No, misunderstanding: they don't even show up in dispatcher, so I have no way to flag them in any way ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add address submenu is working (was: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Maxim, [-] (#0004871) Add address submenu was not working Note in BT this morning, fixed this afternoon. Thats the way *aha-aha* I like it *aha-aha* -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add address submenu still has errors! (was: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Peter, MM [-] (#0004871) Add address submenu was not working there is at least one error left in this section. I have one AB entry (myself) with 9 addresses which is assigned to two groups. If I click on Add address for example on Stefans entry first (who has two addresses) and after that navigate to and click on my own entry, I see Stefans addresses poping up. (See attached file) Can you reproduce this? I made a special addressbook entry with nine adresses, and tried to reproduce your error, but no matter how I try all works fine. What actions do you perform exactly (quick search etc) to get this error? -- Disclaimer: Sorry for not being able to reproduce your error. Not wanting to say that it's impossible that this error really occurs on your computer. It might also well be possible that I am not having the same context here that you have, thus not seeing your error here even though I would if I had the same context. Please don't get me wrong: I'm saying this just because last time I tried to help someone on this list I got a verbal slap in the face just because I could not reproduce the error... Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add address submenu still has errors! (was: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Peter, MS What actions do you perform exactly (quick search etc) to get this error? Nothing special. ctrl+n, click on 'address book' icon on the right, choose group (Selbst as shown in the image), choose my name, RMB. That's all. Looks like putting a contact in a group is the trigger: when I put my test-contact with 9 emails into a group (its the only member there), exit addressbook, open new message, click on select addressbook button in To: field, select the group there and right-click on the *name* column I don't get the Add Adress item. But when I right-click on the e-mail column, the Add Adress item is there. Still no addresses from other persons here, but I guess our two errors are related. -- Martin TB! 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reminder: Buggy message list view persists
Hello Curtis, This means that as large threads expand, they would make your subject column nearly or completely take up the entire message list view area. The limit expansion option prevents this and I have it enabled. It's this option that's causing it. It's an old option that became buggy of recently. I don't know if I understand you right, but I can't imagine how this should work: on one hand you want to limit the width of the threaded column, but on the other hand you don't want the view on that column limited... ;-) Here when I enter a fixed size for that first column and have Limit expansion... set to, say, 10 level, all works fine. As long as the list fits in there I can see the topics, but after the 10th level, they disappear underneath the next column to the right. Thats what I told TB to do. When I don't limit the expansion, tb expands the width of the first column more an more with each expanded message that threads deeper. So as far as I can see every setting does just what it promises to do. Maybe your problem exists because you did not set a size for the first column? Did you try this? BTW, I used the thread mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to test this. It expands wonderfully... -- Martin TB! 3.51.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello MAU, What is TB doing during this extra minute or so? Does anyone know? Never had this on my Windows XP notebook, 3-4 seconds max., no matter how long or how I used TB!. BUT: On my Windows 2000 Desktop, that accesses the mailbase on my Notebook via 100MBit-network, shutting down takes 2-4 minutes every time, TB! visible only in taskmanager, with no CPU usage. The harddrive however works like crazy. Do you also notice increased HD activity? -- Martin TB! 3.51.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Use By does not show used folders (was: The Bat! 3.51.8 is now available)
Hello 9Val, [-] (#0003968) Use By... Does Not Show which Folders are Using a View Mode Hm...hope I don't misunderstand, but here this seems to be still not working. Let me tell you what I did: - RMB on table header in list view of folder XY shows a checkmark besides Viewmode 1 - Options-Preferences-View Mode, I'm selecting Viewmode 1 - Clicking on Use by... - In the list folder XY is not marked in any way. I would expect it to be marked in some way. Can anyone confirm this? -- Martin TB! 3.51.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 POP3 only, no OTFE Current beta is 3.51.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.3: UI change
Hello Stuart, check Hidden item to hide second one. I can hide the one I just created Hm...I just made the same steps, and I doublechecked it: Hide Item is selected with my new Display Only Unread Messages item, but it does not hide: it's still visible in the menu... Do I have to restart TB! or what am I doing wrong? -- Martin TB! 3.51.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MailTicker View Mode Issue
Hello Ben, Howdy Ben, Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 11:25:19 PM, Ben wrotened: BA Howdy Martin, BA Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 4:36:19 PM, Martin wrotened: MS Hello tbbeta, MS When I try to change the viewmode of the MS mailticker list window (the one that pops up when you doubleclick on MS the ticker) it does not change. MS Can anyone confirm this? BA Unfortunately no. Or at least not this time. Must be something that BA works properly with the mail ticker... grin... Ok its lost the view mode. I went through your steps to reproduce, then replied, which exits the mail ticker. Then when i went back to reading mail. Its had lost the view mode. Each time i go back to the mailticker i have to reload the view mode. Do you suppose that our errors are linked? I didn't mean to hijack the thread... Yeah, think so. Even though here I can't even switch the viewmode, when I manually change the settings they're lost next time. So no thread hijacking here... Should we do a bugtrack here? -- Martin TB! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
MailTicker View Mode Issue
Hello tbbeta, When I try to change the viewmode of the mailticker list window (the one that pops up when you doubleclick on the ticker) it does not change. Reproduce: - have the mailticker pop up with an unread message - double-click on it to open the Browse Ticker Messages window - RMB on list header - here I see No view mode ticked - select one of your viewmodes : nothing happens - then select setup columns : the dialog shows a different view mode than the one selected (at least here) Can anyone confirm this? -- Martin TB! 3.5.35 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
[SOT] XHTML in Emails (was: Re: Weird HTML Message in my Mail)
Hello Jonathan, As far as I can see the code is not programmed to conform w3c standards, but with one exception the errors are only of formal nature. That one error however is a closing image tag /img which does not exist in any specification. See the XHTML specifications. All tags require a closing tag. ... Just curious, as I'm not so sure about XHTML in HTML-Emails, because currently I have to keep sticking with HTML 4 for some reasons...but shouldn't using XHTML require at least some kind of DOCTYPE definition in the code? Thanks! -- Martin TB! 3.5.35 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Vili's Mails not threaded
Hello Vili, Please let me explain my situation. Completely accepted ;-). And let me also point out that my initial mail was not intended to criticize you (or even say you should not post to the list), but just to find out if some of my settings were wrong, or maybe even my server would filter out some headers, maybe. It was more or less a technical question. ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.5.35 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Vili's Mails not threaded
Hello tbbeta, I don't want to point my finger at Vili ;-) but do you others also get his mails not threading? At least sometimes? (Like his Thank you mail in the Bugtraq thread?) -- Martin TB! 3.5.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.34 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
