Division by Zero error
Hello Alex. New information on the calender app in The Bat and the divide by zero errors. I have been playing around with this over the weekend with no success until tonight. I have an appointment tomorrow so decided to add it to the calender to see if I had found a way around the error. I input everything as normal just as I had been doing since day one and the only change I made was with the notify me before and I chose 1 hour instead of 1 day and walla it entered. I have an appointment on the 9th so I input that and wanted to have a reminder a day in advance and no chance divide by zero but if I put 1 hour before it accepts it no questions. The error is in the length of time before an appointment anything a day and over it has divide by zero anything less than 24 hours, wonder if I can get away with 24 hours and not 1 day? OK, I put in 24 hours and it accepted it without question. The error is in the day format somewhere mate I have been through all my configuration files and can't find anything so I suspect it is in the actual calendar part of the program. I hope this is of some help for you to trace the error which is still there if I try to enter a day it goes divide by zero. I can enter 24 hours and it's just fine I wonder if it has anything to do with the times of my appointments being sort of mid morning to mid day then asking it to notify me 1 day in advance? I will leave it with you Alex, my wife's laptop is exactly the same, different hardware and a lot of different software but the same divide by zero issues, I will try her laptop in the morning she is using it at present but I suspect it will be the same. Best regards Mike Lumsden 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 10 Beta 1 Log in issues
Hello Stefan I have attempted to log into the new system but it is refusing to accept my e-mail address. Could you please check to see why it is refusing my e-mail address? Many thanks. -- Best regards Mike Lumsden 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.7.0.13
Title: Re: 8.7.0.13 > Templates are still not working!!! After sending this, I'll go back to 8.7.0.11 Confirmed Templates not working in beta 13. I also reverted to 11 the last beta that works for me. Regards Mike Lumsden Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.7.0.12
Title: Re: 8.7.0.12 Monday, January 28, 2019, 7:05:24 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 8.7.0.12 (BETA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb87012-32.rar It doesn't copy the highlighted text from the message being replied to into the reply message. Or this is some other effect after having restarted my PC this morning. Neither the templates for reply and new message are applied. That's why this message is so bare. I can confirm lost all templates and replied to text on the 8.7.0.12 x64 I have reverted to 8.7.0.11 x64 which is fine. Regards Mike Lumsden Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta Issues
Hello Maxim, Thursday, January 24, 2019, 6:40:02 PM, you wrote: > Hello Tbbeta, > Please let us know which of the beta bugs (which did not exist in the 8.7 > release) > still exist and which are now fixed in the latest 8.7.0.9 beta. The Bat Beta 8.7.0.9 X64 on Windows 10 Build 17763 X64 Still Getting an error now it is list out of bounds on the same e-mail all other mail appears to be fine however. I have the latest logs from today only two sections which cover my attempts to reply to the message. Best regards, Mike Lumsden Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.18.10
Title: Re: 5.0.18.10 Hi Friday, July 22, 2011, 7:06:49 PM, you wrote: Starts up, ask me do I want to accept using a beta and then goes to view mode setup, and get this error. No way around, cannot use :( --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00468FC5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0008. --- OK --- Confirmed had to revert to 18.9 Mine was in module 00468FC5 Read of address 0008 -- All Mail Created With:- The Bat! 5.0.18.9 (BETA) Professional Editionwww.ritlabs.com/ Operating System:- Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 System Secured By: ESET Smart Security 5.0.84.0 RC Cookie: Survivalists always keep The Bat! next to their most prized weapons. Current beta is 5.0.18.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition MSI
On Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 4:42:17 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM What's new in The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition MSI since 4.2.16 MM released on 28-Dec-2009? So far, no major problems. My only complaint is that the last few msi files do not delete the previous version entries upon updating. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 AntispamSniper v3.2.2.1 Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.11
On Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:33:12 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP This version seems to have crippled my Ticker. I keep it very MDP narrow and to the bottom left of my desktop. In this version, it MDP fails to appear, or flashes up and vanishes after playing with MDP the options. MDP Anyone else seen this? Yes, I'm seeing it as well. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 AntispamSniper v3.0.0.9 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation during mail fetch
On Sunday, June 1, 2008, 7:32:02 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP !01/06/2008, 17:51:18: FETCH - Access violation at address MDP 006B0A37 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address MDP I have also been having to terminate a completely frozen TB (min MDP to tooltray) about twice every day. Anybody else seeing such MDP things? Yes, I have had similar experiences. So, I can confirm. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.24.16 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 AntispamSniper v2.8.1.1 Current beta is 4.0.24.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Scrollbar in messages]
On Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:24:00 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.14.5 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40145.rar In this version, no scrollbar appears for messages longer than the screen length while reading in digest mode using PTV. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiSpamSniper icons not displayed properly
On Monday, February 18, 2008, 4:10:50 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: RP Has anyone else had a problem with the AntispamSniper icons not RP displaying properly? Yes, I've had the same problem. The only folder it happens in is the junk mail folder. I wrote to the author and the advice he gave me was to add 4 fixed sized icons to the AntiSpamSniper toolbar. That does fix it, but, I believe this to be a TB! bug. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiSpamSniper icons not displayed properly
On Monday, February 18, 2008, 4:57:41 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: RP I've tried what I think you were suggesting but the problem is RP still there. Can please give some more detail of what you did? The attached screen shot should illustrate it more clearly. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7attachment: snipertoolbar.png Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check NO GO (was: Re: 4.0.14.4)
On Saturday, February 16, 2008, 5:22:41 AM, MAU wrote: M Going back and installing v3.99.29 MSI was a good idea but then, M jumping directly to v4.0.14.2 without any 4.x MSI install in M between perhaps not, because you will be missing some updated dlls. I did reinstall SSCE5532.dll and hunspell.dll. I don't know if there were any other dlls that changed. So far though, I haven't seen a problem, but, I have yet to install the hunspell dictionaries. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changed graphic of non-themed tabs since 4.0.14.1
On Saturday, February 16, 2008, 9:56:17 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM really? I am almost unable to read their names... I hate this new MM design I have to agree with you there. I really think a more OS integrated look would be more pleasing. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check NO GO (was: Re: 4.0.14.4)
On Friday, February 15, 2008, 6:01:49 AM, MAU wrote: M You will have to give a little more detail about what I haven't M been able to get spell checking to work at all really means. Neither SSCE nor Hunspell were working. Nothing was being marked as misspelt. So, I tried reinstalling The Bat! v3.99.29 MSI and UnRARed v4.0.14.2 over it. Now, spell checking seems to work. I will have to investigate further though. As far as why I'm using SP3; I'm a member of TechNET and can obtain the prerelease software. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.4
On Thursday, February 14, 2008, 7:20:12 PM, MAU wrote: M Great job my friends! All three engines with their corresponding M user dictionaries (including CSAPI ones) seem to working just fine M and, as expected, the Hunspell and CSAPI user dictionaries are M selected according to language(s) selected for the Dictionary to M add to list, etc. I must be doing something wrong then. I haven't been able to get spell checking to work at all. I've tried almost every suggestion I've seen here and nothing has helped. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3300 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 11:48:41 AM, you scribbled: Maxim What's new in 4.0.0.21 since 4.0.0.20: Maxim [-] (Beta) the Add word to dictionary command was not working Works now... Maxim [+] User dictionaries are supported by Hunspell engine Hunspell still greyed out. Cannot select Hunspell dictionaries, keeps going back to SSCE dictionary. Maxim [-] Paste from... commands were not working in message editor Working Maxim [-] Hunspell dictionaries are loaded from EXE_PATH\dictionaries So where are they supposed to be loaded from now??? Maxim [-] (Beta) Manual spell checker was checking quoted text and URLs Seems to be still checking quoted text. Also if you hit cancel when manually checking spelling (F4 or Spell Checker Check Entire Text). TheBat! gives an invalid pointer error then self destructs after hitting OK on the invalid pointer box several times. -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 4.0.0.21 (BETA) on Windows XP Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA
On Saturday, December 22, 2007, 3:32:53 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.0.1 ALPHA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tba4001.rar Up and running. I'm not too crazy about the default header color, but, so far I haven't encountered a problem. -- Mike Using The Bat! v4.0.0.1 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3264 AntispamSniper v2.7.1.5 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory Leak
Hello Ethan, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 8:47:23 AM, you scribbled: EJM Sunday, November 25, 2007 EJM I continue to experience some sort of memory leak with the current EJM official version of The Bat. After about half of a day of use, it EJM moves from 57, 232 K to just under 180, 000K. Even when I minimize the EJM program, it still continues to escalate. EJM Can anyone verify this problem? By the way, I have not plug ins EJM installed and I'm running Windows XP Pro latest update on a dual core EJM machine with 4 Gigs of memory EJM Jerry I just came back to TB! from Thunderbird (after a year) to see how things are going. I keep notes from all my software trials and tribulations. TB! used to use about 24K maximized and would drop well below 10K minimized before. Now, I get 30K on opening, it stays at 30K minimized. After a few hours I am over 50K. I am using the same computer, same e-mail accounts as I was a year ago. The only difference is that this is a clean reinstall of XP SP 2. I believe something has changed with TB! Since I began this e-mail, TB! has gone from 30K to 58K. Sigh and IMAP still sucks too Every time I give TB! a chance, it disappoints. :( -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.29 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: quoting style (Re: using thebat.net)
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, November 13, 2007, 4:42:12 AM, you scribbled: Roelof Hallo Mike, Roelof On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:32:27 -0600GMT (13-11-2007, 5:32 +0100, where I Roelof live), you wrote: T I sent a test e-mail to my GMail account while logged on to my batnet T web interface. No e-mail was received at batnet. An hour later I decided Roelof That's a rather odd way to reply to a message: Sorry about that, that was off my cell phone and was supposed to be save to draft, not send -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.29 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Latest working with ...
Hello Alto, Saturday, November 3, 2007, 4:40:18 PM, you scribbled: Alto Guten Morgen, EC Could those who test all TB! versions please let me know which is the EC latest and working Version without crashes and hitches on a W2kSP4 Alto Version 1.6something. Alto Sorry. No need for sorry... somebody was going to say it eventually... :) I can't speak for W2k, but .25 seemed to be the last version that I didn't have major problems with on my XP SP2 box... except for IMAP of course -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.29 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Gleason, Sunday, October 14, 2007, 3:19:49 PM, you scribbled: GP Yes, as I said a while ago, the success of Tbird is one of the issues GP that Rit must deal with very soon. And I think glitter is very much a GP part of Tbird's appeal. TBird is not glitter. It is a barebones, functional IMAP/POP client. You can glitz it up with themes and extensions, but the program itself is simple, it works and the average person can slide right into it. That is the appeal, the learning curve is not steep. Glitter, now your talking Pocomail. TB! and Pocomail share the same problem... to many moving parts for the average computer user, too many buttons and options to play with (and screw up). Joe Normal just wants to send and receive e-mail comfortably and reliably, that's it. TB! is aimed at a different user group than TBird. TB!'s market is (or should be) the corporate market, small/home business user and any professional that requires the advanced features TB! has to offer. TBird, according to it's devs (I'll find a quote when I have a chance) was intended to compete with OE for the average home user who just needs a basic e-mail client. The folks TB! is losing, I believe, are those who realize that it is too much for them. There are more features than need or care to figure out. They can go to TBird, set it up in seconds, hit send/receive, reply to Mom and they're done 'til tomorrow, why pay for TB! when TBird is free and much simpler? GP Actually, TB is not going to be simple, and people who have a lot of GP special email needs don't want it to be. The problem is that this is GP a rather small part of the overall email client market, and there are GP 10-15 other clients all aiming for that same group. TB really needs GP to stand out. Appearance is an important part of that. See above, TB! should not be aiming for the same user group that TBird does. In your own words people who have special e-mail needs..., that is TB!'s niche, not Ma and Pa Kettle who get 1 or 2 e-mails a day from the kids. Let Mozilla and MS fight over them... Unfortunately for RITLabs, (other than the fact that they have a crappy web site), they do not seem to be marketing towards the commercial sector very heavily. I know my company execs love the TB!/Voyager combo, however, reliability on the IMAP side makes it a nonstarter. We use our own IMAP server with WebDAV for shared info. For us, it is a lot more flexible than Exchange for the road warrior -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.25 on Windows Vista Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Gleason, Sunday, October 14, 2007, 4:59:25 PM, you scribbled: GP I remember a techie friend in the early days of Firebird saying that GP it was superior because it introduced tabs. He didn't seem to think GP that Netscape had tabs. Never heard of Opera. So what was the GP secret? How did Moz get noticed? Marketing, ok, Moz calls it evangelism. I remember when Moz plunked down $130K for a full page advert in the Wall Street Journal. That and some of the devs had contributed techie articles espousing the virtues of Firefox over IE in the lead-up to the advert and official FF release. Of course you can purchase shirts, hats and cups plastered with getfirefox.com. They had a high profile, commercial marketing strategy combined with enlisting the user in a grass roots campaign. Very effective I think. While they haven't and won't catch IE, it enough that they left Opera in the dust. If you believe stats, Opera's market share has remained unchanged since 2004, but FF is inching up slowly. RITLabs could use a marketing expert to define it's products, shape an intended user base and sell the product. Right now it seems that TB! is used by those who are referred by a current user or bumble into it on a Google search. And they seem content with that for some reason. -- Regards, Mike TheBat! 3.99.25 on Windows Vista Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 7:50:07 AM, Richard Wakeford wrote: RW I know your message wasn't to me but I just thought I'd let you RW know that all my AntispamSniper toolbar items have remained RW stoically in place through all the latest TB! versions. As they have here, just for confirmation. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.99.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 AntispamSniper v2.5.0.2 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.98.14
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 5:46:24 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39814.rar Upon starting the first time, I had a partially drawn screen with an immediate exit and the following in my event log: Faulting application thebat.exe, version 3.98.14.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00011e58. Subsequently, this version has started properly. Time will tell... -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.98.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - queue freezing
Stuart Cuddy wrote: Hello tbbeta, As I reported before I have been having queue freezing problems with IMAP. I have now reported it to bugtraq. Please add confirmations at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6274. Interesting. I too was having major problems with this. As advertised, I switched back to Thunderbird. I have been using Thunderbird exclusively for 3 days (Thunderbird is on and connected 24/7). It's IMAP is now doing what TB has been doing. I have thoroughly checked my computer, firewall logs etc. I am getting with Fastmail to see what info they have on their side. I noted you too are a Fastmail user, are there others having IMAP issues that are not Fastmail users, or more to the point, have IMAP providers using something other than Cyrus for their IMAP server. -- Mike Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.06
Hello Randy, Tuesday, March 13, 2007, 8:55:31 AM, you wrote: Seems to be running as usual but it still doesn't address bug #0006274: On a regular basis I have processes freezing in the queue. Sometimes if I delete the top frozen process the rest will proceed, but other times I have to Disconnect and then reconnect. Sometimes I have to restart TB! completely. Note: This also happens in 3.98.04 and has been happening for some time. Same here But on the bright side we have animated smileys :/ Got to have priorities ya know... -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.6 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - queue freezing
Hello Stuart, Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:54:59 AM, you wrote: Hello tbbeta, As I reported before I have been having queue freezing problems with IMAP. I have now reported it to bugtraq. Please add confirmations at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6274. It is really bad, IMAP is completely unusable. Switching back to Thunderbird to keep my sanity... :boohoo: Will add comments to bugtraq. -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.4 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SMTP connection Slow
Hello Tim, Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 11:57:07 PM, you wrote: Anyone experiencing a large delay in sending messages? I have noticed this with the last 3 or 4 beta builds. Did some comparisons between Thunderbird and TB!. I see TB! is slow on SMTP, it more pronounced on my IMAP (presumably due to copying the mail to the Sent folder and the frozrn queue issue). . -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.4 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Freezing Processes
Hello Stuart, Sunday, March 4, 2007, 9:44:49 AM, you wrote: I have been noticing recently that IMAP processes have been freezing in the queue and do not ever start up again. I rarely use the connection center, so I can't speak to what you are seeing, but I can say that there is a problem with IMAP (BIG surprise there :( ). I had TB! open for 5 hours, it showed no new messages in any IMAP folders. I have TB! set to synchronize certain folders every minute or two. I opened Thunderbird and I had many new messages. I manually checked mail with TB! and synchronized, no new messages. I restarted TB!, and it showed new messages. Oh yeah, and the counters are still completely messed up, TB! just can't count or add As an IMAP client, I would be very hesitant to use TB! for critical e-mail communications. I always keep Thunderbird available and check it periodically to see if TB! is missing something. Really sucks I have to keep two e-mail apps, because I can't trust one... -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.3 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Freezing Processes
Hello Stuart, Sunday, March 4, 2007, 2:06:43 PM, you wrote: In recent versions IMAP is getting worse. As you mention message counts and not downloading new messages seems to be getting worse. I think some of it relates to this freezing of the queue. Yes, it has gotten worse recently. I subscribe to tbbeta on IMAP for the same reason you do. I think you are right, the freezing is connected to the failure to synchronize properly. I am wondering if TB!'s implementation of the IDLE command is good. I understand the complexity of IMAP implementation vs POP, but the counters issue has been going on for how long We won't even get into flags and searches... -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.3 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Freezing Processes
Hello Stuart, Sunday, March 4, 2007, 2:06:43 PM, you wrote: In recent versions IMAP is getting worse. Oh boy Just sent the previous message (I think). My sent box on my IMAP server is Sent Items. Just realized it has dissapeared. It shows in the subscribed folders, but it is not in the folder tree. Also, the Outbox goes bold during the send process, but does not go back to normal after the send. Also... just checked the webmail interface... Of the 9 e-mails I have sent today from TB!, only 4 are in the Sent Items box on my IMAP server... Not good -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.98.3 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.14 BETA
Hello Maxim, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 4:17:35 AM, you wrote: [-] It was not possible to disable automatic backup Still cannot access properties for auto backup and cannot delete -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.96.14 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.96.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.14 BETA
Hello Roelof, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 5:14:09 AM, you wrote: Up and running, still doesn't remember which message (or folder) was shown last. Confirmed. Appears to jump to a random message/folder on start... -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.96.14 Windows XP Pro SP2 AntiSpamSniper Current beta is 3.96.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.96.09 BETA
Hello Maxim, Sunday, February 18, 2007, 7:48:04 AM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39609.rar [-] (#0006228) Messages were saved into .TXT files in UNICODE [*] Added better on-exit-exception loggers More of the same... :) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6227 -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.96.9 (BETA) Windows XP Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.96.08 (BETA)
Hello Matt, Friday, February 16, 2007, 12:12:16 PM, you wrote: Creating a new account has not been possible (for me at least) with the last 3 or 4 betas. The last beta would just shut down completely after hitting the Finish button on the last screen and this beta gives me an AV. Maxim do you need any data/logs? Same here, TB! just shuts down, I get no AV or error message, no logging of an error (as of .07, haven't tried .08, maybe I don't want to). I extracted the .exe from the public release, set up my accounts, then went back to the beta... -- Best Regards Mike Rourke 3.96.07 (BETA) Windows XP Current beta is 3.96.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Autobackup [was: The Bat! 3.96.02 (BETA) is now available]
On Tuesday, February 13, 2007, 1:46:07 AM, Simon wrote: S Can I ask, is this working for anyone at the moment? No, I can't say AutoBackup is working for me either. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: McAfee 8.0i Enterprise blocks The Bat! since 28 Oct 2006
On Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 12:30:05 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Does anybody use McAfee 8.0i Enterprise Antivirus? It seems that MM since update 4884 of 28 Oct 2006 it blocks sending/receiving any MM messages with attached files in The Bat!. Can anybody confirm MM this? I cannot confirm this. I'm using 4927 and haven't had a problem. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Send to broken with v3.86.05 Alpha
If I try to send attachments using the Send To context menu option, TB! is opened, but no corresponding message with the attachment is created. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.86.05 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current ALPHA is 3.86.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.81.14 and S/MIME encryption
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but it seems that S/MIME is broken in v3.81.14 and I know v3.81.13 as well. If I go to encrypt a message, TB! will bring up the proper cert, but, the OK button is disabled. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.81.14 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.72.04 (Beta) is now available
On Saturday, March 18, 2006, 4:05:26 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK I cannot understand how that properties window is a) so tiny (is ASK anyone really using less than 1024x768 these days?!) The answer to that is, yes. :) -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.72.04 (Beta) is now available
On Saturday, March 18, 2006, 7:35:11 AM, Mark Partous wrote: MP Yes what??? :) Yes, sir? LOL Seriously, there are still people using resolutions lower than 1024x768 - I'm at 800x600 - so, no assumption can be made about the size of the dialogs. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64.02
On Friday, December 30, 2005, 12:58:36 PM, Neal Laugman wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install.exe NL Got a 404 not found error... I got the same thing. :( -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP
TBBETA, On 24-Nov-05, 21:55, you scribbled: V Hello all, V Who had problems with IMAP: try it now. It is REALLY fast now... What happens when you delete an IMAP folder? I created two new folders and copied 200 messages into them for testing purposes. When I was done (there are message counter problems, but that's for later), I emptied the folders, compressed them, then tried to delete folder 1, TB! gave multiple errors and I had to restart TB!. I then tried to delete folder 2, again TB! became very ill and I had to restart it... :( -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.63.05 (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP
TBBETA, On 25-Nov-05, 09:32, you scribbled: CT Hello Dwight, CT Friday, November 25, 2005, 3:02:42 PM, you wrote: This continues to be such a weird puzzle. CT I can't fault my connection (2Mb broadband) or my mail server CT (FastMail). Mulberry, Outlook Express, Outlook and Thunderbird all CT perform so much faster than TB! here on the same IMAP account. Ditto. I have a 16Mb broadband connection. I copied 2000 e-mails to my Fastmail server as a test. TBird can get it all there in less than a minute. TB! hangs, sometimes copying only 400 e-mails before quitting. I also noted with TBird that the message counters for the folder I am copying to (on the IMAP server) is updated in real time. With TB!, messages are copied over, I see the message list, but no message counters appear until I starting marking mail read. I do not have the duplicate problem. It also appears IDLE may not work properly. When I have new mail in my IMAP inbox, TB! always showed unread mail in the box (bold folder name, message counter shows unread), now that only functions intermittently. I am beginning to have serious doubts about the future of IMAP on TB!, I really don't think it will happen... ever. Every IMAP client I can think of (that works) had IMAP built-in from the beginning. The IMAP clients that don't work too hot (TB!, Poco, Courier, Pegasus, Eudora), all started life as a POP client, IMAP was added later and it's broke in some way or another. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.63.05 (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.14 is now available
On Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 10:30:23 AM, 9Val wrote: 9 So the .14 version is finally released and we start new beta cycle. 9 It has just some cosmetic fixes over .13, but if someone likes to see 9 higher version numbers, he could download .14 here: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi I'm a sucker for higher version numbers. :) Installed and running, so far without problems. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OTAnn] Feedback
Leif Gregory wrote: Sorry for the letdown. We try our best to keep the lists spam-free but we're not always successful. :-( Oh, that's OK, we'll just take a little out of your moderator's paycheck... :) -- Mike Current beta is 3.62.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Scheduler stupidity
TBBETA, On 11/1/2005, 10:18 AM, you scribbled: V Write a BT. Bug must be in a code, the boolean (that triggers the V email sent to you) is set true too early to signal the success of the V backup. I think, it is easy to fix. Here's the BT link... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5277 -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.08 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Scheduler stupidity
TBBETA, On 11/1/2005, 12:59 PM, you scribbled: V Hello Mike, V Write a BT. Bug must be in a code, the boolean (that triggers the V email sent to you) is set true too early to signal the success of the V backup. I think, it is easy to fix. Here's the BT link... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5277 V I read the BT, and I started to think about it, just before I wrote V that Confirmed. V There is an event scheduled. At the start, you make a backup, at the V finish, you generate the email. But that email will ALWAYS say that it V was successful, as you made the template saying that it was a V successful backup, right? V So, I think the real solution somewhere would be the possibility to V evaluate the result of the start action. Because now you set a mail to V be set when the EVENT FINISHED, not when the START ACTION WAS V SUCCESSFUL. V Do you see the difference? V So, for a 2nd thought, it is not really a bug, as the faulty email is V not because of bad evaluation (my mistake), but the lack of V evaluation... V Maybe, there should be some: V 'Run this action if the Start action was successful...' between the V start and the finish actions... I agree, there are two different conditions. Unfortunately the success/failure of the scheduled function is irrelevant. I agree this may not be an actual bug, but I believe it is bad form. Imagine thinking all of your e-mails have been backed up for the last month, then one day you need them. Or the maintenance that wasn't really done until one day your mail file becomes inaccessible. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.09 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Edit Event action changes to Chinese
TBBETA, On 11/1/2005, 04:36 PM, you scribbled: RD Well, I made an event, which did run correctly. Then I decided to edit RD the event. After I clicked to close the edit portion, I noticed the RD recently added event was now all Chinese characters. This is a problem RD since I have trouble enough with English. We had a BT in for that and it was (supposedly) fixed in .07. My text is all in English, however, when I wen in and added a couple of folders to my daily maintenance, it reverted back to Chinese and blanks. Guess it wasn't fully fixed... You want to do the BT or shall I? -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.09 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Edit Event action changes to Chinese
TBBETA, On 11/1/2005, 05:15 PM, you scribbled: RD Recently, Mike Rourke squawked: Guess it wasn't fully fixed... You want to do the BT or shall I? RD well, I sent an email *bug report* from the pull-down options in TB! RD Are you saying there is a more direct way to do it? Anyway, as I said RD WRT this particular error, I emailed RIT just before I wrote to the RD list here. Never used the pull down option, not how or if it works. Usually go to the RIT bug tracking site https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php and file a report there. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.09 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Tony Boom wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31 Oct 2005, at 08:12, Cees wrote: right, Inspector Morse, I presume? :) But do you know my first name? Endeavour -- Mike Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Curtis wrote: - I've given up on TB! IMAP for now since it let me down again when put to the test with a low bandwidth situation. It's no longer fun fiddling around. I just want it to work. It will become fun again, when real changes are being made and I can test them. So since nothing much is happening for IMAP, I'll stick with apps that work all the time. It's a core issue. At it's core, TB! is supposed to be a fully functional e-mail client, ie send/receive mail by POP, POPS, SMTP, IMAP and IMAPS; period, dot, end of mission statement. Everything else is ancillary to this function and is not a core feature. What we have here is a rotten core with a bunch cool features hung on it. That just won't do, it is called an e-mail client for a reason, but it doesn't do that job. But, by goodness, we can filter and file what we can't receive... Makes sense to me... :( I said it before and I'll say it again... Using an e-mail client requires the end-user to completely trust the developer to deliver a product that will allow that end-user to reliably communicate without the client losing, eating, ignoring etc. e-mails. To me, that trust is gone and will not easily be replaced. I no longer recommend TB! to others and I have had a few business clients inquire about TB!; the answer is no, it is not to be trusted with critical business communications, especially in an IMAP environment. It's high time to put the horse back in front of the cart -- Mike Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Build 3.62 released
Dimitry Andric wrote: I've migrated to Thunderbird for some time now. Even the so-called unstable nightly builds are far more stable than The Bat has ever been. In some cases, The Bat is a bit faster, in other cases Thunderbird is. I find the same here. I always am on the latest nightly, just one hiccup ,and that was fixed in less than 2 days. I've mainly migrated because of the almost flawless IMAP support in Thunderbird. Of course this makes it quite easy to do, since you don't have to import your message base at all! It's already there on the server. True, but if you need to migrate from TB! to TBird it is very, very easy, even if you don't have IMAP... http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=16245 Note that Thunderbird DOES have much less features than The Bat, but I hardly use most of the strange cruft RIT has been adding since 2.x. And with the nice plugin system of mozilla.org you can download quite a number of extensions, which might provide the function(s) you need. In my case that's mostly the PGP/GPG support. That was the intended purpose of TBird, to make a an e-mail client with a solid, functioning core, then let the user determine what widgets to hang on it. PS: I do follow this list still, and occasionally download one of the beta's Not anymore, I'm done... -- Mike Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cascading AV on new release
On Thursday, October 27, 2005, 11:12:52 AM, Richard Newman wrote: RN I'm getting the same when moving between accounts . . . but not RN every time, or consistently enough to suggest steps to reproduce. RN PLUS, I'm getting External exception 8003 upon normal exit. I've gotten the same plus the following: --- The Bat! --- Assertion failure (C:\mailer\VCL\Classes.pas, line 9828) --- OK --- It's back to v3.62.01 for me. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.62.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP status for me 3.61.xx
Clive Taylor wrote: --On 26/10/2005 08:25 -0500 -=Curtis=- wrote: Not here it doesn't with a rock-solid 2Mb connection in the south of England. TB hangs, sulks and falls asleep on the job constantly. Agree, I use a 3MB DSL connect, and now, courtesy of my new job, I am using a free 8MB cable connection. Both are solid, consistent connects with low noise and no lost packets. Thunderbird and Mulberry work flawlessly with my Fastmail IMAP, TB! is senile and geriatric. Mulberry runs rings around TB! when the bandwidth is borderline. TB! becomes usable with high available bandwidth I have inflicted high line noise and throttled my bandwidth on both my broadband connects. Mulberry works great, Thunderbird works, but slightly degraded and TB! packs it in and goes home despite fiddling with precise counters, number of connects etc. BTW, why are these (counters etc.) a feature in TB! anyways? Every other IMAP client ticks along fine without these options, or are they a way for the user to overcome shortcomings in the client instead of actually fixing the blasted thing? Just thinking out loud I can't think of ANY version of TB! where its performance has been faster than Mulberry by a wide margin. And don't forget accurate, I've never seen Mulberry display the wrong message body, forget how to count etc etc -- Mike Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Chinese take-out
Hello TBBETA, I use the scheduler to do back-ups, compress folders etc. I haven't changed anything in awhile so I don't know when this started. I go to the scheduler, right click on a scheduled function, select properties and then click on the Actions tab. In the box where it is supposed to tell what action is being taken, it has Chinese characters and blanks. There are two action boxes, it happens in both of them. See attached screenshot... -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2attachment: Chinese.jpg Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unread tab not working?
Hello TBBETA, I just started using the tabs in the mail list, thought would be neat to try, doesn't seem to work properly though. I have a bunch of unread messages, but the unread tab only shows one unread. See attached... -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2attachment: mail_list.jpg attachment: Unread_Tab.jpg Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 11:41 AM, you scribbled: MS Hi MAU, MS Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 6:37:10 PM, schriebst du: 3.62 was to test msi installation. Or do you think that the 20 bug fixes announced with 3.62.01 were all fixed in the last 24 hours? ;-) MS Why changing the version just for the msi package? MS Why not releasing 3.61.15 beta with the changes and then the msi? ;- MS Questions... hehe. MS Michael Noo, not the version numbers argument again... As long as the numbers are going up I'm as happy as clam at high tide. :) -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Unread tab not working?
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 12:05 PM, you scribbled: M Hello Mike, I just started using the tabs in the mail list, thought would be neat to try, doesn't seem to work properly though. I have a bunch of unread messages, but the unread tab only shows one unread. See attached... M Have you tried scrolling down (or is it up?) the mail list pane? That is M the only problem here. I have noted that bug too, however in this case I had no scroll bar. Tried arrow up/down, page up/down, mouse wheel, nothing worked. That said, I switched to the TBOT folder and had the same problem (no scroll bar, not all unreads displayed). I switched back to TBBETA folder, no change, then back to TBOT. On the second go with the TBOT folder, the scroll bar mysteriously reappeared and I could scroll and see all my messages. Then I went back to TBBETA and the scroll bar reappeared there also. I shut down TB! and restarted it, the scroll bars were gone again and I couldn't see my all of my unread messages. After flipping between folders a few times, the scroll bars come back... only if you are in the Unread tab, doesn't work if you stay in the All tab. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 12:24 PM, you scribbled: M You should never trust programmers, specially if they are from one of M those countries that hardly anybody can locate in a map ;-) Or if they come from Redmond, Washington USA... ;) -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Chinese take-out
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 12:39 PM, you scribbled: V Confirmed. V Want to write a BT or should I do that? I'll get it, send the link back to this thread. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Unread tab not working?
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 12:52 PM, you scribbled: M Hello Mike, I have noted that bug too, however in this case I had no scroll bar. M That's then a different (additional) problem. So far I always get the M scroll bar. I'll keep an eye though. When you get the scroll bar, you have to actually move it to see all the unreads. I don't think that is right, do you know if that has been reported? -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Chinese take-out
TBBETA, On 10/25/2005, 12:39 PM, you scribbled: V Hello Mike, I use the scheduler to do back-ups, compress folders etc. I haven't changed anything in awhile so I don't know when this started. I go to the scheduler, right click on a scheduled function, select properties and then click on the Actions tab. In the box where it is supposed to tell what action is being taken, it has Chinese characters and blanks. There are two action boxes, it happens in both of them. See attached screenshot... V Confirmed. V Want to write a BT or should I do that? Here you go... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5231 -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.62.01 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62 is now available
TBBETA, On 10/24/2005, 11:18 AM, you scribbled: The Bat! 3.62 is now available from: It is the beta version of msi :) ASK I'm puzzled. Whats that supposed to mean? I believe this is the last beta wrapped in an MSI and we are just testing the .msi install function. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62 is now available
TBBETA, On 10/24/2005, 12:14 PM, you scribbled: ASK Hello Mike Rourke everyone else, ASK on 24-Okt-2005 at 18:23 you (Mike Rourke) wrote: The Bat! 3.62 is now available from: It is the beta version of msi :) ASK I'm puzzled. Whats that supposed to mean? I believe this is the last beta wrapped in an MSI and we are just testing the .msi install function. ASK Its just that I smell release, which would be insane. Me, too. I already checked the main download page. I remember the last release. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.62 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) is now available
Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VV if it's reproducible, please file up a bt issue and attach the VV example. Done; https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5205 See also https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5195 5205 seems to be the result of an attempted fix for 5195 maybe ? -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Michael Schneider wrote: because Thunderbird performs the most basic functionality of an e-mail client which is to display my plaintext e-mail per RFC-822 No, because it displays remote images if I want it. Yes, and my car can go up on the sidewalk if I want it. Not the cars fault, just the loose nut behind the wheel. Allowing images to be viewed in TheBat! makes TB! no less secure. Again, it is the loose nut behind the keyboard. Using your methodology of protecting the user, every web browser should not display ads, images, links etc, etc because they may be harmful to the uneducated. My primary e-mail client is now Thunderbird, why?, one reason is because it allows me the option to view images (that and ^%$# IMAP). I have banking institutions and businesses that send e-mail and statements in HTML with images that provide information. This is the way they do business, most do not have a plain text option or multi-part capability. I am able to white list these using the address book. This does not make the client less secure. I make the choice to allow/disallow images, not Thunderbird and not Mozilla. Same with TheBat!, if some yo-yo allows the wrong images and gets trashed, that is not TB! or RIT's fault, it is the loose nut behind the keyboard, once burned twice shy. Heck, right now I can receive a SPAM e-mail in TB! and click away on all the links in it, doing probably more damage than viewing images in another more docile e-mail. Maybe we should lock down URL's too, and while we're at it let's just strip that potentially nasty HTML crap right out of TB! and lean it up a bit. -- Mike Rourke Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Leif Gregory wrote: Irrelevant. We're talking about one single e-mail client out of hundreds that we want left alone from all the fluff, glitz and security holes. Can't you just leave one well enough alone so that the minority of us security focused people can be happy too? The capability to view images doe not create a security hole. What the user does with that capability is the actual security risk. Again, what about embedded links? These are a greater threat than say an embedded web bug. Click on the wrong link and you go straight to Java Script/ActiveX hell, yet these are not blocked. I respect anyone who is computer security aware, makes my job easier. Computer security is making me a lot of . This is the way they do business, most do not have a plain text option or multi-part capability. Because their customers demanded it. They want the glitz, the fluff and the eye-candy without regard to security. I highly doubt people have called their financial institutions demanding HTML mail. It is simply a part of the business model in corporate America. In my work, I have approached businesses about killing the HTML and embedded images or at a minimum, using a plain text option. The answer is a flat no, it is not competitive. They consider it advertising and a matter of keeping up with the Joneses. I have a Web designer friend who gets paid 6 figures to design HTML mail (newsletters, statements etc) for a large financial institution, they take this stuff seriously. I am able to white list these using the address book. So I send you an e-mail using the e-mail address of your bank referencing an image on my server. Now what? Given the number of banks in the US, someone would have to specifically know what bank I am using and know the specific e-mail address for the e-mail that is being sent. One of my banks uses no less than 8 e-mail addresses (one for my savings statement, one for checking etc). Add that to complexity of munging the e-mail address and duplicating the e-mail itself plus the actual return value of all this work = long shot. That and my firewall blocks Port 80 in my mail clients, I have to specifically authorize a connection to a Web address. It's a pain, but it's necessary. and while we're at it let's just strip that potentially nasty HTML crap right out of TB! and lean it up a bit. That's why RITLabs wrote their own HTML rendering engine. So now they spend time making sure they can render everyone's HTML markup with less time spent on fixing IMAP and other bugs. People wanted HTML e-mail, but at least true to their word, RITLabs did their best to ensure the integrity and security of TB. I was being sarcastic, but since you brought it up. Yes, RIT Labs (and Poco Systems) did the right thing and reinvented the wheel. This is double duty, creating an e-mail client and Web browser/HTML editor at the same time. It is a lot of work for the few, but it does keep the rest of safe from that flawed IE engine. -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply/Forward to HTML mail contains html code in message body
9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, don't get you here. Could you give example? I opened a bug report (5195) and provided examples there. Diman has already addressed this and say's it will be resolved in 3.61.13. Thank you for the attention. -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Disappearing log
Hello TBBETA, Had a problem with one of my accounts, so I went to AccountView Log, it was greyed out. I used Shft-Ctrl-A, nothing. Restarted TB! and presto, I had access to my logs, which were complete. Anybody else? I agree with Vili, I too am losing faith. It's a trust issue, I really don't trust TB! with critical communications. I use Thunderbird beta with my IMAP account for important things. TB! has turned more into a novelty for me when I'm bored instead of a serious e-mail application I can use for it's intended purpose. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Disappearing log
Peter, On 10/17/2005, 02:02 AM, you scribbled: MR Had a problem with one of my accounts, so I went to AccountView MR Log, it was greyed out. I used Shft-Ctrl-A, nothing. Restarted TB! MR and presto, I had access to my logs, which were complete. Anybody MR else? PF Yes. I see this too. I have no idea what causes this. If you write a bug PF report, I'll support it. Here you go... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5193 -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ritlabs and the TB community
TBBETA, On 10/16/2005, 07:07 AM, you scribbled: ASK I for one would want a reply/forward to/of an HTML message happen the ASK Outlook way - yes, with all the negative points like top posting and full ASK quotes, and not like the current (even though better than nothing) attempt ASK to apply a typical plain-text reply-template to HTML messages. But thats ASK just me, and others may actually like the current implementation. The point ASK is: we don't have a choice. Agree with all. Speaking of HTML and choices... Back to the subject of embedded images. When are we going to be allowed the choice to display/not display these? Default off, user toggle (preferably in the header bar) to display and an address book connected whitelist capability. And don't get me started on the lovely blue quote bar... and I thought Thunderbird went over the top with their colored quotes, at least I can turn those off and/or modify them when they start to give me migraines. :) -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Lost reply/forward function
Hello TBBETA, I have my TBBETA/TBOT list automagically filtered from my account inbox to a common folder. I edited a folder template for my TBBETA common folder so I could reply to a post. After finishing the edit, I went back to the list and could not reply. The reply, reply to all, redirect, forward, delete, mark as junk buttons were greyed out on the toolbar and the right-click drop down menu was completely greyed out, even copy/move to folder, save as etc. I had to restart TB! to get back to normal. I have tried to duplicate this but cannot. Anyone else seen this? -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Reply/Forward to HTML mail contains html code in message body
When reply or forward HTML mail part of the underlying HTML code shows at the beginning of the reply/forward body -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Greek in Maintenance
On Friday, September 23, 2005, 5:15:02 PM, Charlene Ferrara wrote: CF From another maintenance run I have this pic. It shows a single CF number in purged messages, when you look at the disk space saved CF you will see the overlay in numbers and letters. I have similar results as shown in the attached file. CF BTW: why does TB show my Greek.gif as 659BF11a.gif when CF clicking on it? I never noticed this before. That would be because TB! is just saving a temp file when you click on it and don't actually save it to disk. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 jumble.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.61.07 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.05: Tick boxes not displayed with 'Eos' theme
On Saturday, September 17, 2005, 7:20:56 AM, MAU wrote: M It looks like in current version 3.61.05 Echo all tick boxes are now M 'themed' and so, at least using Eos theme (I have not tried them all), I M cannot see any tick boxes in any Preferences or Properties dialogs M unless I hover the mouse pointer over them. M I have added a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5061 M Can some one confirm with 'Eos' or another theme? Yes, confirmed with the Eos theme. Although, it's not the case with all themes. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.61.05 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.05 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.60 MSIs
On Wednesday, August 31, 2005, 7:11:17 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-60.msi Seems to be working fine. No duplicate entries, everything seems as it should. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.60.06 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) digest mode broken
Everything seems to work fine except that now when I receive TBBETA digest, I cannot view them in tabs. I have to open each individual message as an attachment. The tabs just appear to be empty white screens. :( -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.60.05 forerunner | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP - Multiple Connections, and bad behaviour
TBBETA, On 8/3/2005, 05:41 PM, you scribbled: DAC On Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 4:28:06 PM, Kevin Amazon wrote: Exactly. I have now 3 tasks that are obviously hung (having been executing for over 3 hours). It is pretty obvious to me that IMAP is still not quite ready for prime time. sigh DAC A few weeks ago, when I was doing POP, not IMAP, I used to have DAC similar freezes on POP accounts, but they jammed things up. If I'm DAC having any of these with IMAP, they aren't. I have been studying this thread for awhile before I jumped in. I use Fastmail with TB! and haven't had any problems. I do not use the Connection Center, I monitor the account log periodically for problems, but have not had any. I do not use the synchronize function, I am subscribed to all of my folders, but do not have them set to synchronize. I have the refresh all folders set to 10 minutes with 6 connections. The wish I have is that the deleted messages are lined through until I purge them, like Thunderbird does and the have the ability to selectively undelete them. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.10 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: CANNOT Repair My IMAP Database (Was: Re: How Do I Repair My IMAP database?)
TBBETA Keith, :snip: No way could I get to a menu to disconnect from the server, nor could I repair the database. :snip: You have to click on the IMAP account, click on the Account -- IMAP Commands --, Disconnect from Server **before** you run folder maintenance, otherwise TB! will interact with the server, possibly trying to read/write to the very file it is trying to fix. If this happens, it may corrupt the file even further or corrupt a previously undamaged folder. After the folder maintenance is complete, you can go back to Accounts -- IMAP Commands -- Connect to Server. :snip: As soon as I started up the new version, I started getting the error popups (this time for 0588F103.TBB). As before, I was asked whether I wanted to repair the message base :snip: I use IMAP (Fastmail) without problems. As long as you leave your e-mails on the IMAP server as intended, you can right click on the folder, Properties and clear the cache. I actually have the Clear cache on exit checked for my high traffic folders and I make sure I dump the cache and rebuild it at least every couple of days or so. An e-mail program that utilizes a local cache for IMAP (POP too for that matter) folders will always corrupt eventually with a high population/high traffic folder due to file fragmentation. The only thing that is corrupt is the local cache on the hard drive, not the files sitting on the IMAP server (although it is possible). It is always a good idea to break down your e-mail folders on the IMAP server into smaller archive folders, grouping by year, month, whatever works for you. :snip: For all other folders, it said Messages recovered: x, damaged parts (part???.bin) saved:0. (Anybody know what this means?) :snip: From TB's Help file: Damaged parts are saved into the folder's home directory with a .BIN extension. Those files may contain parts of damaged messages, so you can view them with any binary file viewer (you can find plenty of them by searching the Internet, even the standard Notepad can be used) and save any relevant information you can find. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.10 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: About 3.51 release
TBBETA, On 7/26/2005, 10:28 AM, you scribbled: 9 Hello Boris, BA So none bug of BugList can be fixed without serious changes? 9 Surely there are a lot of cosmetic fixes and traslation issues, but 9 I don't think somebody will be satisfied with them more than three 9 days. A pearl of wisdom there. Kind of reminds me of getting the kids a new toy, you can start the 72 hour boredom countdown clock immediately. So true and well spoken 9Val. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.10 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: About 3.51 release
TBBETA, On 7/25/2005, 03:14 PM, you scribbled: 9 Hello Jay, JW I understand this. But what is not clear to me is why we went from JW 3.5.30 to 3.5.36 and then jumped to 3.51 without ever seeming to JW complete the 3.5.xx series. 9 Actually 3.51 is the same serie, it just uses new numbering system. I 9 don't think it will be changed soon. JW That makes sense to some extent. But, to my thinking, it is not JW entirely user-friendly. Over the extended period of time that RL will JW be making these big changes, 9 We'll avoid situation like with 3.5 which was prepared 6 months. JW many TB users will probably prefer to JW stick with a safe and stable version - one that has all of the JW components that they need and most of the components that they want. 9 3.51 is more stable than 3.5.30 and has the same components. If you 9 are refering to 3.0.2.10 - it is your choice to use it or any other 9 version. In some aspects 3.5 is far superior than older versions, 9 while in some it really lacks maturity (in example, customizer 9 interface). So the choice which version to use fully depends of your 9 needs. Hey, forget the numbers, just give me the link to the latest and greatest, don't care if it is 3.5.1 or 3.51. :) -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.10 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: CANNOT Repair My IMAP Database (Was: Re: How Do I Repair My IMAP database?)
TBBETA, On 7/26/2005, 05:02 PM, you scribbled: C On Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 3:46:45 PM [GMT -0500], Mike Rourke wrote: :snip: No way could I get to a menu to disconnect from the server, nor could I repair the database. :snip: C The pacmen are cute, but the noise level is high in the message when C they're so numerous. They're distracting and they don't provide the C clarity of quote prefixing with colour contrasting. Additionally, those C without smileys enabled will see no immediate difference between what's C a quotation from what's your responses. Thought I'd let you know since I C appreciate your messages and wish not to have to ignore them or have C them ignored by others for the wrong reasons. :) Ohhh, I usually use snip or :snip : (space intended), I never thought it equated to a smiley, guess I'll go back to . Sorry about that... -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.10 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.8 is now available
TBBETA, On 7/21/2005, 02:51 PM, you scribbled: 9 Hi! 9 The Bat! 3.51.8 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [-] (#0004932) Access Violation after saving attachment from embedded 9message 9 [-] (#0004964) Quoting from a PGP-decrypted message omits the message, 9supplying only the greeting and sig from the Reply 9template 9 [-] (#0003968) Use By... Does Not Show which Folders are Using a 9View Mode Two betas in one day... :notworthy: Runs fine. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.8 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Common Folders and Get Mail
TBBETA, On 7/20/2005, 10:53 AM, you scribbled: MR Question for those using pre-3.51.4 versions of TB!. I have my mail MR filtered to Common Folders for TBBETA and TBOT. When I am in a Common MR Folder, my Get Mail button is grayed out. TF Here too. When I'm in an account folder, I have this button available, TF and when I click on it, new mail for that account will be checked. TF Common folders are outside accounts, so I don't know which account you TF expect TB to check. The way I believe it functioned before and what I would expect, is that it would check all accounts. MR A Get Mail for All Accounts Hot Key doesn't seem to work either. TF Not confirmed. Alt-F2 works as usual, even when I'm in a Common TF folder. If you designate a different Hot Key in preferences, it will not work. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.5 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common Folders and Get Mail
Hello TBBETA, Question for those using pre-3.51.4 versions of TB!. I have my mail filtered to Common Folders for TBBETA and TBOT. When I am in a Common Folder, my Get Mail button is grayed out. I don't seem to remember this being the case. I thought, pre 51.4, I could check my mail from a Common Folder. A Get Mail for All Accounts Hot Key doesn't seem to work either. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.4 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Common Folders and Get Mail
TBBETA, On 7/19/2005, 02:15 PM, you scribbled: MB Hello Mike! MB On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 2:06 PM, you wrote: Question for those using pre-3.51.4 versions of TB!. I have my mail filtered to Common Folders for TBBETA and TBOT. When I am in a Common Folder, my Get Mail button is grayed out. I don't seem to remember this being the case. I thought, pre 51.4, I could check my mail from a Common Folder. A Get Mail for All Accounts Hot Key doesn't seem to work either. MB Working fine here. Not grayed out in v. 3.0.2.10. MB I have one Common Folder--I made it accidentally when I created one MB for my Bug Tracker notifications and found it so handy that I just MB kept it as a Common Folder. Hmm, now is this a bug or feature? I feel it is a bug. Why should I have to stop browsing my Common Folder, click on an account, check my mail and then go back to the Common Folder and restart my browsing? -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.4 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Common Folders and Get Mail
TBBETA, On 7/19/2005, 02:36 PM, you scribbled: MB Hello Mike! MB On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 2:23 PM, you wrote: Hmm, now is this a bug or feature? I feel it is a bug. Why should I have to stop browsing my Common Folder, click on an account, check my mail and then go back to the Common Folder and restart my browsing? MB Confirmed. MB If you'll write a bug-track issue report, I'll be glad to put a MB supporting note. :) Thank you Mary, appreciate the extra work. I thought I was losing the little piece of my mind I have left. I clearly recall browsing TBBETA messages and being able to manually retrieve new mails at the same time. The BT report is https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4942 -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.4 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Common Folders and Get Mail
TBBETA, On 7/19/2005, 06:18 PM, you scribbled: MB Hello Mike! MB On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 5:46 PM, you wrote: MB I am copying your attachment to this Reply, Mike. Fine, I'll send you details for the royalty check. :) MB Again, I confirm what you see--it's what I see here. That's bad, TB! is acting up. That's good, I can cancel the appointment with my shrink. I thought I was losing it. :) MB Create a New Message is also greyed-out on my machine, but it MB functions when clicked on, as the other two buttons do not. Cannot confirm this. My Create a New Message is not greyed-out and does function properly. A, the mystery deepens. :unreal2: -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.5 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Common Folders and Get Mail
TBBETA, On 7/19/2005, 07:02 PM, you scribbled: MB Well, maybe it's just too pale for my eyes to see it as not MB greyed-out. Since it does function. MB The current attachment is in the public domain. LOL It is very pale. The picture you sent shows it is not greyed-out. Phew, thought we had a real weird one on our hands. :) -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.5 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available
Hello 9Val, On 7/15/2005, 02:49 PM, you scribbled: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well, it starts fine... See how it goes. -- Sawadee, Mike :flag-us-tx: :flag-thailand: Using TB! 3.51.4 Home on Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
On 10/07/2005 09:44, Goncalo Farias wrote... Why is TB! so sluggish with big attachments? Anyone has comparable experiences with other e-mail clients? I just sent/received a 32M attachment with Thunderbird. I used POP to POP, IMAP to POP and POP to IMAP. Thunderbird works fine, processing the large send/receive in the background. The attachment opens without a hitch. I did all this via a broadband connection (DSL). Yes, Thunderbird is my primary e-mail client now, I no longer trust TB! to safely handle my critical communications. -- Mike Using Thunderbird 1.1a1 on Win XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51
On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 12:34:41 PM, MAU wrote: M That is correct. Same with ¡Exclamation Marks! ¿Why is it that numlock must be on in order for ¡The Bat! to accept alt-codes? -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5.32 is now available
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 12:24:53 PM, Mark Partous wrote: MP It seemed to hesitate to start, but no, it did! :-) It actually did seem slower to load, but it's running. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.32 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5.32 is now available
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 12:10:26 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.5.32 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ The first bug I see is that I no longer get my sound when new e-mail arrives. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.32 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 5:10:14 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.5.33 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9 The only change is non-working dispatcher. Much better. :) The new mail notification now works again too. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.33 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30
On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 6:29:34 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Is 3.5.31 generally better than 3.5.30? Should we update the MSI MM and the download page? For me, I'd definitely have to say yes. I haven't had the cascading AVs that I had with 3.5.30. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Macro Menu not working in templates
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I just noticed, the macro menu is basically nonfunctional when creating templates - at least from the address book. Maybe there's a bug already filed for it, but I thought it was worth mentioning. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Macro Menu not working in templates
On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 3:15:39 PM, Avi Yashar wrote: AY Confirmed. Same here. Broken also in the templates for accounts AY and folders. Ok, I see there's a bug already filed for it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4832 -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
