Re: Bug or setting?

[Gwen]

Hello Goos,
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, at 09:58:14 [GMT +0100] (which was 09:58 where I
live) Goos wrote:

> Perhaps the small attach comes through, showing the previously
> described problem. Two pictures combined to one. Above the html
> in which the blue button link does not work, see also the cursor,
> and below the same in text mode where that link does work.

Do you have activated in The Bat! Settings -> Editor -> internal (The Bat!) HTML
viewer or the system's one?

Perhaps it is a bad HTML mail (working with Javascript only or bad
formatted HTML) which does not work correctly.

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Re: Bug or setting?

[Goos]

Perhaps the small attach comes through, showing the previously
described problem. Two pictures combined to one. Above the html
in which the blue button link does not work, see also the cursor,
and below the same in text mode where that link does work.
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Re: Bug or setting?

[Goos]

Hi,

>> when opening a message in html mode (TB internal html mode)
>> and there is a button with a link, TB does not recognize the link,
>> which is not working. But after changing to text mode where
>> the links are written in underlined blue, the link is recognized and
>> active.

> Not easy to test without such mail at my own.
> Please export such mail to a eml file and report the bug to Ritalabs at
> https://bt.ritlabs.com/bug_report_page.php and upload the eml file
> there.

@Gwen
because I was not sure whether it is a bug or not, I first asked and
did not file a bug report.  Meanwhile I am not sure if it is caused by
TB, by Windows, by some software that runs at startup, or by my
computer (hardware).
It seems, the problem occurs at random and not every time. At starting
my PC the problem appears, at another start all works as it should.
And it alternates at each pc start. I did not find a reason.  But I
will keep an eye on it to find out some more. If it indeed is TB, I
will file a report.

@Lüko
> It is not clear what "is not working" means.
> And which version of TheBat! are you using?
> Does this apply to a message received, or one
> you are creating from scratch? Or editing an existing
> one?

Grin... not working means, that the cursor does not show its link
form and nothing happens at clicking at such a link button.
My TB version was and is shown below.
And it concerns recieved messages.
See for more my answer above to Gwen.

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Re: Bug or setting?

[Lüko Willms]

Guten Tag Goos,

am Sonntag, 19. November 2017 um 05:07 schrieben Sie:

> when opening a message in html mode (TB internal html mode)
> and there is a button with a link, TB does not recognize the link,
> which is not working. But after changing to text mode where
> the links are written in underlined blue, the link is recognized and
> active.

  It is not clear what "is not working" means. 

  And which version of TheBat! are you using? 

  Does this apply to a message received, or one you are creating from scratch? 
Or editing an existing one? 




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Re: Bug or setting?

[Gwen]

Hello tbbeta,
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, at 05:07:08 [GMT +0100] (which was 05:07 where I
live) Goos wrote:

> when opening a message in html mode (TB internal html mode)
> and there is a button with a link, TB does not recognize the link,
> which is not working. But after changing to text mode where
> the links are written in underlined blue, the link is recognized and
> active.

Not easy to test without such mail at my own.

Please export such mail to a eml file and report the bug to Ritalabs at
https://bt.ritlabs.com/bug_report_page.php and upload the eml file
there.

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Bug or setting?

[Goos]

Hi,

when opening a message in html mode (TB internal html mode)
and there is a button with a link, TB does not recognize the link,
which is not working. But after changing to text mode where
the links are written in underlined blue, the link is recognized and
active.
Is this a bug of the html mode, or a by me overseen setting?

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Bug or WAD? Address book allows creating messages to people with no email-address

[mse]

Hello all,

it is quite possible to have a contact in your address book who has no 
email-address. However, The Bat allows creating a message to this person 
via menu "File / New message" or context menu. It creates a new message 
and the "To:" field contains something like "Firstname Lastname <>".

Two ideas:
1: Disable the relevant menu items when the contact doesn't have an email 
address;
2: Bring up a message box, telling the user, that the address book contact 
does not contain an email-address. 

Other opinions?

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Re: [The Bat! 4.1.11.8] Unique IDs of Colour Groups: Bug or Feature?

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-03-25 · 18:06 h (CET)]

Moin, Marek!

>> Just curious: Is it a bug or a feature, i.e. does it WAD?

> IMHO such ID is stored in all msgbase index files and folder
> structure files, so such change probably requires processing all
> these files.

That may be a reason. But if one only can initially set a Unique ID,
which is not editable anymore, the field should be grayed out the next
time. It is confusing to click into such a field, start typing and
then nothing happens.

That's the way, it should be: not editable => grayed out

> Just curious, why do You need edit ID of Colour group?

Maybe just because the German translation of "Unique ID" is a little
misleading (something like "unique brief description") and I sometimes
need to change a "description". Now I have learned just to use
meaningless IDs instead of "descriptions". ;-)

Ummm, and this leads me to the next question: If these IDs are only
important for the mentioned above reasons and are more or less
meaningless, why does The Bat! not automatically set an ID which is
invisible at the UI? So this field could be used for a *real* handle
like handles for QTs or adress book contacts. ;-)

Okay, okay … it is not worth it to think any further. :-)

Cheers!
VA

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Re: [The Bat! 4.1.11.8] Unique IDs of Colour Groups: Bug or Feature?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Wednesday, March 25, 2009, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

> If I create a Colour Group, I have to set a "Unique ID". Sometimes I
> want to edit that ID, but I cannot, altough that field is *not* grayed
> out. Is that ID somewhere stored and so *must* not be edited? Until
> now I thought, that this ID is something like the field "Handle" in
> QTs, address book entries, etc.

> So, if I want to edit a certain group, I have to delete the old one
> and create a completely new one. That would not be so bad,if I were
> not using in several filters Colour Groups, which (logically) switch
> to "Generic Group" after removing the old group.

> Just curious: Is it a bug or a feature, i.e. does it WAD?

IMHO such ID is stored in all msgbase index files and folder structure
files, so such change probably requires processing all these files.

Just curious, why do You need edit ID of Colour group?

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[The Bat! 4.1.11.8] Unique IDs of Colour Groups: Bug or Feature?

[Volker Ahrendt]

Moin, folks!

If I create a Colour Group, I have to set a "Unique ID". Sometimes I
want to edit that ID, but I cannot, altough that field is *not* grayed
out. Is that ID somewhere stored and so *must* not be edited? Until
now I thought, that this ID is something like the field "Handle" in
QTs, address book entries, etc.

So, if I want to edit a certain group, I have to delete the old one
and create a completely new one. That would not be so bad,if I were
not using in several filters Colour Groups, which (logically) switch
to "Generic Group" after removing the old group.

Just curious: Is it a bug or a feature, i.e. does it WAD?

Cheers!
VA

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Re: [The Bat! 3.98.1] Sorting Office/Filters - Bug or Feature?

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| VA,  [1] | 2007-02-27 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Ian A. White« · 2007-02-27 · 21:44 h (CET)]

Hello, Ian!

> I believe that this is working as it should in strict computer
> logic.

> The condition cannot be evaluated as true because there is nothing
> to evaluate if the Reply-To: field is not present. As it evaluates
> as nil, it does nothing.

From this point of view you are right, so it is indeed a feature and
*no* bug. ;-)

Thanks.

Cheers!
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[The Bat! 3.98.1] Sorting Office/Filters - Bug or Feature?

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| VA,  [1] | 2007-02-27 |
·---··

Hello, folks!

For this mail account I have a filter for "Selective Download" with
several conditions to delete/ignore spam mails on the server.

One of these conditions shall be the following one, i.e.:

Ignore all mails, if the header field "reply-to" does not contain
"tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com".

··

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [64A8932E.01C75AAB.7E9C0843.4F6F3953]
Name: Spam\20Trap
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

··

So far, so good. - The filter works properly, if the header *does*
contain the regarding field (reply-to).

But if this field is not present, the filter "thinks", that the field
is there *and* contains "tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com". So the *unwanted*
mail will be downloaded.

IMO "field xy does not contain abc" should have the same effect like
"field xy" is not present. So this is a bug.

Any other opinions?

Cheers!
VA

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Inconsistencies between 'Save' and 'Save as draft'. Bug or feature?

[MAU]

Hello all,

The Subject of this message could also have been: 'More arguments to
have a separate Drafts folder'

I'll start by saying that, if it is a bug, it is a long standing one
because the behaviour I'm going to describe applies not only to latest
beta 3.63.14, but also to 3.62.14 and even good old 3.02.10, the three
versions I have currently installed and that I can easily switch from/to.

I have found this as a consequence of the testing done about the "Editor
'Message/Save' (Ctrl+S) does nothing" bug reported in:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5485

Let's see, when you have the Editor open, aside of the options 'Send'
and 'Put in Outbox' you have a 'Save (ctrl+S)' and a 'Save as draft
(Alt+F2)'.

AFAIK, these the two options 'Save' and 'Save as draft' do the same:
save the message in Outbox (not in Drafts folder, because there isn't
one) and _Park_ it. The difference between the two options is that while
'Save as Draft' closes the editor window 'Save' keeps it open. So far so
good.

Before getting onto the inconsistencies, let me point out that the
'Auto-save' feature that can be set in 'Options/Preferences/Viewer
editor/Editor preferences' is just an automatic and periodic way of
doing a 'Save' and, of course, as it should, it also keeps the editor
window open.

Let's get to the inconsistencies, peculiarities or buglets.

Assume you are editing a message and that you have not included yet the
Subject and/or the To field:

- If you do a 'Save as Draft' you are warned about a blank subject and
not allowed to save a _draft_ with the To field empty. As I have said in
some previous message, why can't I save a draft without the To and/or
Subject if my message is not yet finished and I am not trying to send it
yet? Yes, because drafts are saved in Outbox and not in a separate
Drafts folder.

- Now, if you instead do a 'Save' (or wait long enough for an Auto-save
if you have it configured) you are not warned about an empty Subject or
To field. Well, it is actually not required because your editor remains
open and, sooner or later, you will either do a Send or a Save as Draft,
and then you will be warned. But just you wait Mr. Higgins, just you
wait, because you can also do a Message/Cancel (Esc) or click on the X
on the top left. What happens then?

In the case of 'Save as draft' (if you have reopened the message) and
'Auto-save' (which is supposed to be equal to Save but done
automatically) you get a warning that the message you were editing has
been saved and you are asked if you want to keep the saved copy (in the
Outbox, of course) before closing the editor. But this is not true if
you have only done a _manual_ Save, the editor is closed with no warning
and the saved copy remains in Outbox. Why?

Well, that is no big problem because the Saved copy (in Outbox) is
actually Parked. Yes, but if you remove the Parked flag it may be sent
unfinished and with an empty subject. It will never go out without a To,
not because TB detects it (it will try to send it) but because it will
be refused by the smpt server (I'm talking about POP although I assume
it would be the same for IMAP) with a reject a message as not properly
addressed.

And actually, both for Save and Auto-save and also for Save as draft if
you have re-opened the message, if while having the editor still open
you remove the Parked flag (either intentionally or by accident) and
then do a Cancel, you don't get any kind of warning and your now
un-parked message (maybe unfinished or without a Subject and/or To) is
in the Outbox and ready to be sent.

I am fully aware that the probability of these possible 'awkward
situations' occurring is minimal. Yes, but they would be absolutely
zero, none, nil, nada if a separate Draft folder was used.

Believe me, the more I think about it the less I can understand
Stephan's opposition to implement a separate Drafts folder. I can
understand a reluctance or even opposition to do it now or at least
before other pending issues (i.e. fully working IMAP, which I don't
use), but I can't understand a 'philosophical' or 'conceptual'
opposition. I just can't.

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Re: Bug or Wish?

[Boris Anders]

Hello Marek,

Marek Mikus wrote (in ):

>>> I have tried %WRAPPED(10, "%Text") and it worked.

>> Do you use MicroEd or Windows Editor?

>> Here, it seems to work with Windows Editor, but not with MicroEd.
>> Strange. Confirmations?

> I am using MicroEd and tested it in it.

:-(. Which sort of template did you use?

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Re[2]: Bug or Wish?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, March 22, 2005, Boris Anders wrote:

>> I have tried %WRAPPED(10, "%Text") and it worked.

> Do you use MicroEd or Windows Editor?

> Here, it seems to work with Windows Editor, but not with MicroEd.
> Strange. Confirmations?

I am using MicroEd and tested it in it.

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Re: Bug or Wish?

[Boris Anders]

Hello Marek,

Marek Mikus wrote (in ):

>> %WRAPPED(72, "%Text") don't work as I hoped (wrappe the original text
>> to 72 charactes) as the %WRAPPED Macro don't accept a second Macro in
>> it.

>> Can you confirm? Is it a bug?

> I have tried %WRAPPED(10, "%Text") and it worked.

Do you use MicroEd or Windows Editor?

Here, it seems to work with Windows Editor, but not with MicroEd.
Strange. Confirmations?

BTW, in Windows Editor Template+Ctrl+Space seems to be broken in 3.0.9.9
Pre-Beta. Confirmations?

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Re: Bug or Wish?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, March 22, 2005, Boris Anders wrote:

> %WRAPPED(72, "%Text") don't work as I hoped (wrappe the original text
> to 72 charactes) as the %WRAPPED Macro don't accept a second Macro in
> it.

> Can you confirm? Is it a bug?

I have tried %WRAPPED(10, "%Text") and it worked.

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Bug or Wish?

[Boris Anders]

Hello all,

%WRAPPED(72, "%Text") don't work as I hoped (wrappe the original text
to 72 charactes) as the %WRAPPED Macro don't accept a second Macro in
it.

Can you confirm? Is it a bug?

TIA

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Re: Bug or?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Gunivortus,

on Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:42:32 +0100GMT, you wrote:

GG> Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started 
with the
GG> default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
GG> message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I 
write
GG> the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'.
GG> What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that
GG>  changed From: address. 
GG> What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging
GG>  to the used From: address.
GG> Result: The sending of the message fails.

In addition to changing the "From" change the account (right click on
the account entry at the bottom of the New Message and select).

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Re: Bug or?

[Stuart Hemming]

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GG> Hi,

GG> Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started 
with the
GG> default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
GG> message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up.
I think that what you need to do is to select from the list of
accounts in Options|Active Account to get the message to go in to the
correct outbox.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Bug or?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gunivortus!

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 12:42:32 PM you wrote:

> How can that be corrected?

Options/Active account is what you are looking for.





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Bug or?

[Gunivortus Goos]

Hi,

is this a bug, or do I something wrong..

In TB I've five accounts, each with lots of own folders, each has it's own 
emailaddress, each have their own remote POP3 mailboxes.

Now, this is what happens.
Case 1:
Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started with the
default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I write
the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'.
What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that
 changed From: address. 
What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging
 to the used From: address.
Result: The sending of the message fails.

Case 2:
The same thing happens when I want to reply by private mail on a message in 
a public maling list and I want to use another account with another 
emailaddress.
When saving, the message is placed in the outbound from the account which is 
used for that mailing list, it should be placed in the outbound that belongs to 
the used changed emailaddress/account.

How can that be corrected?

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bug or not?

[Den V. Yafyasov]

Hello.

I have removed all "old" filters, having left only "new".
After that it is sorted nothing.

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Re: BayesIt bug or The Bat! bug?

[Prezes]

Hello Alexey,
Monday, October 6, 2003, 12:49:54 PM, you wrote:

ANV> This is cosmetic bug in BayesIt. All messages are actually marked properly.

Thank you very much.

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Re: BayesIt bug or The Bat! bug?

[Tony Boom]

Hello Prezes,


  A reminder of what Prezes typed on:
  06 October 2003 at 12:27:22 GMT +0200

P> Why? This is The Bat! bug or BayesIt bug?

  It may be a duplicate spam mail, one that's been processed before.
  It may be that the time delay as already described by Alexy hasn't
  registered it yet.

  Either way it happens to me and Bayesit is working impeccably. On
  the very rare occasion it misses one, I mark it as junk and the
  total is updated after a minute or so.
  


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Re: BayesIt bug or The Bat! bug?

[Alexey N. Vinogradov]

Hello, Prezes.

You wrote 06.10.2003 @ 19:27  in <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  using mailer The Bat! (v2.00.22)

P>   I installed Bayesit 04fm. Unfortunately, in 9/10 times, I cannot
P>   mark message as spam by Special>Mark as junk menu option. Message is
P>   moved to junk folder, but you can see in attached image, that 0
P>   messages was processed. Why? This is The Bat! bug or BayesIt bug?

This is cosmetic bug in BayesIt. All messages are actually marked properly.

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BayesIt bug or The Bat! bug?

[Prezes]

Hello TBBETA list,

  I installed Bayesit 04fm. Unfortunately, in 9/10 times, I cannot
  mark message as spam by Special>Mark as junk menu option. Message is
  moved to junk folder, but you can see in attached image, that 0
  messages was processed. Why? This is The Bat! bug or BayesIt bug?

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Re: Bug or feature

[Maurice Snellen]

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 02:57 (which was Wednesday, July 30,
2003 at 8:57 where I am) John Seymour [JS] wrote:

JS> cannot confirm with ctrl-alt-s, however if i just hit s quick search
JS> pops up with the letter "s" inserted. Bug?

The latter is most certainly not a bug. The quick search is a feature
that allows for quickly locating messages in the message list by
typing a keyword from the subject or part of the author's name.

I forgot to mention that TB does indeed execute the filter that I set
the Ctrl-Alt-s combo for. In addition, the quick search pops up. I've
now checked in an editor what, if anything, this combo produces and it
results in the German sz-symbol: ß

A feature of the quicksearch is that it automatically erases
characters from the input-window that no longer result in a match.
Indeed, the list of messages that I was in when doing this, doesn't
contain any messages with subjects or authors containing the ß, so the
behaviour of the quicksearch is proper.

However, if I tell TB to use a certain key-combo to process a filter,
I expect the action to end there and don't expect it to still produce
the character that invokes the quick search. Hence my conclusion that
there is a bug here of some kind.

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Re: Bug or feature

[Chris Wilson]

Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 7:57:11 AM, you wrote:



> cannot confirm with ctrl-alt-s, however if i just hit s quick search
> pops up with the letter "s" inserted. Bug?

Same here with beta 9




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Re: Bug or feature

[John Seymour]

Hello Maurice,

Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 1:30:03 AM, you wrote:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS> I was just wondering. I have assigned the key-combination Ctrl-Alt-S
MS> to a filter that forwards the mail I'm reading (or is currently
MS> highlighted in the message list)

cannot confirm with ctrl-alt-s, however if i just hit s quick search
pops up with the letter "s" inserted. Bug?

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Bug or feature

[Maurice Snellen]

Listmembers,

I was just wondering. I have assigned the key-combination Ctrl-Alt-S
to a filter that forwards the mail I'm reading (or is currently
highlighted in the message list) to an address I have created on my
mailserver that adds spam mail to my bayesian classifier (I'm using
SpamAssassin integrated in my mailserver). If I do that whild the
message list is the active pane, the 'Quick Search' window pops up,
and some character is entered into it (can't tell which cause it is
immediately removed again) and I have to escape out of it again.

Is this supposed to happen?

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Re: RFC 822 headers and forwarding - bug or feature?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, 12:21, Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote:

> In beta 9 and 10 I see new bahavioru of forwarding message. Turn on
> RFC 822 headers in message panel and forward it - in forward message
> there will be NO RFC 822 headers. No matter: mime or standard forward.
> Question: is it bug or feature?

A while ago, this was discussed as a possible feature to implement to
avoid people including the headers by mistake (or by not knowing
better).

IMO it's a big mistake to change the way this has been working since
including headers has far more advantages than disadvantages. I doubt
people who does not know when to include and when not to include headers
even use the view-headers-feature.

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[Krzysztof Kudlacik]

In  beta 9 and 10 I see new bahavioru of forwarding message. Turn on RFC 822
headers  in  message panel and forward it - in forward message there will be
NO RFC 822 headers. No matter: mime or standard forward. Question: is it bug
or feature?

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Stefan Riegler]

Hello List!
Marcus Ohlström wrote:

> Yes, you do on the line above "Regards,", but do you here:

> --

Because this  is not a . Your message uses
\ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable \
and here your  must look in the source view like:
'--=20 '  not like
'-- ' (mouse marked)

If you are using \ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit \ your  must
look like this (source view) '--  '  

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Marcus Ohlström,

On Thursday, April 04 2002 at 01:01 AM PDT, you wrote:

> It should be .
> 
> This is not a signature delimiter:
> 
> -- Not a delimiter.
> 
> But this is:
> 
> --

No it isn't. You yourself forgot to put a space at the end. 

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 3:28:44 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

> Try selecting the signature delimiter below this paragraph and you
> will notice that there is no space, although I *have* typed
> . Actually I don't think TB!'s editor is
> capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line.

> --

You are mistaken. There is a space after the two '-' characters. It
clearly shows up if you block it.

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Re[6]: Bug or feature?

[Alex Sanyukovitch]

Hello Marcus,

Thursday, April 4, 2002, 4:28:44 AM, you wrote:

MO> No, it doesn't work. Try selecting the signature delimiter below this
MO> paragraph and you will notice that there is no space, although I
MO> *have* typed . Actually I don't think TB!'s
MO> editor is capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line.
Well,  it  could,  but  only for delimiter string. And only one such string
could exist in a document.

MO> --

MO> The delimiter below is however correct, but that one I haven't typed
MO> in the editor, that is inserted from my reply template.

The  But!  will  recognize  (and  remove  everything after) only the _last_
delimiter.

You could consider it as a feature :-)

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Mike Harlos]

Dear Marcus,

In reply to your message dated Thursday, April 04, 2002, 7:35:18 AM:


> On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:27, Mike Harlos wrote:

>> I find a space after the dashes using the mouse drag method, as seen
>> in the attached capture.

> Yes, you do on the line above "Regards,", but do you here:

> --

> I *have* placed a space after the two dashes above, but it's noot seen
> when I get the message back.

No, I don't find one there. I'm afraid I don't have any idea why.


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Re[2]: Bug or feature?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:27, Mike Harlos wrote:

> I find a space after the dashes using the mouse drag method, as seen
> in the attached capture.

Yes, you do on the line above "Regards,", but do you here:

--

I *have* placed a space after the two dashes above, but it's noot seen
when I get the message back.

I too find a space after the two dashes below, but not after the
dashes above. The only difference between the two lines is that the
dashes above have been typed manualy while the dashes below have been
inserted by a template.

And to Dierk, I have absolutely no idea why some find it and some
not...

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Mike Harlos]

Dear Marcus,

In reply to your message dated Thursday, April 04, 2002, 6:27:21 AM:


> I tested with this method, I tested by dragging the mouse (with left
> button pressed) over that line and I tested with the method you
> proposed in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> No space whatsoever.

I find a space after the dashes using the mouse drag method, as seen
in the attached capture.


Regards,

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, April 4, 2002 at 2:27:21 PM you wrote:

>>> --

> No space whatsoever. I also tried saving the message to a .txt file
> without finding any space. No matter which of the mentioned methods I
> use, I do find a space after my real signature delimiter below, but
> not when trying to make on inside the editor.

Why do I find one?



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Re[2]: Bug or feature?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 12:51, Dierk Haasis wrote:

>> Try selecting the signature delimiter below this paragraph and you
>> will notice that there is no space, although I *have* typed
>> . Actually I don't think TB!'s editor is
>> capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line.

>> --

> How did you test for the space?

> I just did by putting the cursor before the first dash and then
> slowly pushing it with the mouse to the end of the line. What I got
> was .

I tested with this method, I tested by dragging the mouse (with left
button pressed) over that line and I tested with the method you
proposed in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

No space whatsoever. I also tried saving the message to a .txt file
without finding any space. No matter which of the mentioned methods I
use, I do find a space after my real signature delimiter below, but
not when trying to make on inside the editor.

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Re: Bug or feature?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marcus!

On Thursday, April 4, 2002 at 11:28:44 AM you wrote:

> Try selecting the signature delimiter below this
> paragraph and you will notice that there is no space, although I
> *have* typed . Actually I don't think TB!'s
> editor is capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line.

> --

How did you test for the space?

I just did by putting the cursor before the first dash and then
slowly pushing it with the mouse to the end of the line. What I got
was .

If you use  to get to the end of a line, the last space will be
ignored.


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Re[5]: Bug or feature?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 11:11, Daniel Hirning wrote:

MO>> Mmm..  Didn't work, there is no space there. How do I make TB!
MO>> put a space at the end of a line? I know I can in my signature,
MO>> but in the editor?

> by hitting the space bar and pushing enter?

No, it doesn't work. Try selecting the signature delimiter below this
paragraph and you will notice that there is no space, although I
*have* typed . Actually I don't think TB!'s
editor is capable of putting extra spaces at the end of a line.

--

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in the editor, that is inserted from my reply template.

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Re[4]: Bug or feature?

[Daniel Hirning]

In reply to Marcus's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> message 'Bug or feature?' dated
4/4/2002 at 11:08:43GMT +0200 (7:08 PM):

Hey Marcus,

MO> Mmm..  Didn't work, there is no space there. How do I make TB! put
MO> a space at the end of a line? I know I can in my signature, but in
MO> the editor?

by hitting the space bar and pushing enter?

not all that trivial.

The  reason it didn't work was because it wasn't the last signature in
the message (plus, it didn't have the space after it - but it did have
the  grrr.. :)

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Re[3]: Bug or feature?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 11:01, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

> But this is:

> --

Mmm.. Didn't work, there is no space there. How do I make TB! put a
space at the end of a line? I know I can in my signature, but in the
editor?

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Re: Flags Settings Bug, or ?

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OP>   You can select them, but you can't UN_select them...

OP>   From "Select Message, Right click -> Flags" - all OK !!!

OP>   Can anyone confirm this behavior ?

Yes. But it only happens with the main windows 'Message' menu. It works
fine with the Folder View Windows' 'Message' menu.

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Re: Flags Settings Bug, or ?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Oleg,

On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 9:12:08 AM you wrote (at least in part):

OP> Can anyone confirm this behavior ?

Yes. Full ACK.

Would you mind filing it at

https://bt.ritlabs.com/

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Flags Settings Bug, or ?

[Oleg Polishchuk]

Hello tbbeta,

  Select any message, then go to:

  Message -> Flags -> Replied (Forwarded/Redirected)

  You can select them, but you can't UN_select them...  

  From "Select Message, Right click -> Flags" - all OK !!!
  
  Can anyone confirm this behavior ?


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s/mime: bug or not?

[Krzysztof Kudlacik]

  Can you check this report?
  https://bt.ritlabs.com/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=632

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Re: Re[3]: Bug or my mistake?

[Tone Marie Berg]

On 2002–03–06, Alexander Leschinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello DG,
>
>On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:13:13 -0500 (06.03.02 06:13 my local time)
>    you wrote about "Bug or my mistake?",
>at least in part:
>
> DRS> Am I missing something here or are you only replying to this beta
> DRS> group but
> DRS> testing the beta on another system?
>
> Well, if I have (and use sometimes) Becky, IcrediMail, Pegasus 4,
> Poco, Calipso, AKMail, Kaufman Warrior - I can't post here too???
>
> Also mutt, pine, mail...

Heck, I'm not even using an e-mail client to read these lists. I'm
such a bad girl, I should probably be banned for life. Heh.

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Re[3]: Bug or my mistake?

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello DG,

   On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:13:13 -0500 (06.03.02 06:13 my local time)
   you wrote about "Bug or my mistake?",
   at least in part:

DRS> Am I missing something here or are you only replying to this beta
DRS> group but
DRS> testing the beta on another system?

Well, if I have (and use sometimes) Becky, IcrediMail, Pegasus 4,
Poco, Calipso, AKMail, Kaufman Warrior - I can't post here too???

Also mutt, pine, mail...
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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Hello Marck,

On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, at 18:35:27 [GMT +] (which was 1:35:27
PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> On 05 March 2002 at 13:11:05 -0500 (which was 18:11 where I live)
> James Senick wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> Is there a way to change quoting prefixes on a folder level?

> The best way is to use the %QUOTESTYLE=.. macro in the associated
> template (this should be on a per destination address rather than per
> folder basis).

Thanks Marck.  I'll work on it.

Nick Andriash>>> %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

>> You're correct...my mistake.  I was sure that my template
>> was set to wrap them but it is not.

> Not entirely. This will only wrap the first paragraph. To wrap all
> quotes, you would have to employ one of the recursive macro techniques
> to wrap all paragraphs.

Nick did mention that in his reply to me.  I neglected
to include it in my reply.

>> But back to my original question, is the re-send command
>> supposed to trigger the "Send Queued Mail" command as a side effect
>> as well?

> I haven't observed that. Then again, I always park (as draft) mail I
> don't want to send yet.

I do as well.  But I'm not prepared to blame TB on that
part since I've done weirder things that I didn't remember.

On the question of the re-send also sending queued, not
saved as draft messages...it does!  I've tested it several times
since with a few messages to myself saved to the Outbox, then
unmarked as "save as draft", then re-sending a message from the
Sent folder.  TB re-sent the correct message but also sent the
queued messages.

Now I realize that the messages weren't 'protected' in
the Outbox during my test since I purposely unchecked them for
test purposes.  But it still seems to me that they should not
have been sent unless I specifically issued the "Send Queued
Mail" command (or send mail from all / send & check from all).

To me, the re-send is just an extension of the regular
send.  And the regular Send does not send queued mail but rather
just the one specific message you tell it to send.  And that
seems right to me.  But the re-send command does not work the
same. If that's the way it's supposed to work, I can deal with
that. I just find it hard to believe that is the case.

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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Hello Mrten,

On Tue, 05 Mar 2002, at 19:32:25 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:32:25
PM in NY, USA) Mrten wrote:

>> But back to my original question, is the re-send command supposed to
>> trigger the "Send Queued Mail" command as a side effect as well?

Mrten> You can park messages in your Outbox as well as anywhere else, and new
Mrten> messages are parked by default AFAIK. It just doesn't look like a P, but
Mrten> some kind of weird hourglass.

Yes, I can verify that they were all set to "Save as
Draft" status in the past.  What I cannot be sure of is if they
were changed.  I know I didn't change them one by one though and
I don't think they can be changed even by mistake in one fell
swoop.

Mrten> If you're concerned about escaping messages, try to fill in mail-adresses
Mrten> last, just before sending :)

Good idea.  But really they should have been deleted
long ago.  Unfortunately they were quite lengthy and I have been
taught to save all forms of writing, especially if it sucked.  I
normally move these into a temp sub folder of the Outbox.  But
in this case I had not.  That part is my fault for certain.  So
I am not 'mad' at my little Bat at all.  But just confused as to
why the re-send also triggered a queued mail send.

Mrten> And watch out, if you unset the hourglass to delete it the message might
Mrten> be sent inadvertently in the small timespace between deleting and sending
Mrten> if a 'mail retrieve/send' is triggered in that time.

I have made this mistake in the past with test messages.
 But this wasn't a regular send / receive (which I don't use)
but a specific "re-send" directed from the message editor
itself.

Mrten> Mrten.

Mrten> (PS. Hate those names before the '>', personally. Breaks every other
Mrten> mail-client there is. You might call it 'Outlook-like', breaking
Mrten> conventions et al. :)

8(  Thanks.  That makes 3...and countless silent
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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Hi James,

On 05 March 2002 at 13:11:05 -0500 (which was 18:11 where I live)
James Senick wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Is there a way to change quoting prefixes on a folder level?
> I need to keep them as is for other mail in this particular account.

The best way is to use the %QUOTESTYLE=.. macro in the associated
template (this should be on a per destination address rather than per
folder basis).

Nick Andriash>> %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

> You're correct...my mistake.  I was sure that my template
> was set to wrap them but it is not.

Not entirely. This will only wrap the first paragraph. To wrap all
quotes, you would have to employ one of the recursive macro techniques
to wrap all paragraphs.

> But back to my original question, is the re-send command
> supposed to trigger the "Send Queued Mail" command as a side effect
> as well?

I haven't observed that. Then again, I always park (as draft) mail I
don't want to send yet.

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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Om 19:11 op dinsdag 5 maart 2002, James Senick:

> But back to my original question, is the re-send command supposed to
> trigger the "Send Queued Mail" command as a side effect as well?

You can park messages in your Outbox as well as anywhere else, and new
messages are parked by default AFAIK. It just doesn't look like a P, but
some kind of weird hourglass.

If you're concerned about escaping messages, try to fill in mail-adresses
last, just before sending :)

And watch out, if you unset the hourglass to delete it the message might
be sent inadvertently in the small timespace between deleting and sending
if a 'mail retrieve/send' is triggered in that time.

Mrten.

(PS. Hate those names before the '>', personally. Breaks every other
mail-client there is. You might call it 'Outlook-like', breaking
conventions et al. :)

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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Hello Dwight,

On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, at 11:56:34 [GMT -0600] (which was 12:56:34
PM in NY, USA) Dwight A Corrin wrote:

Dwight> On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, 9:26:14 AM, James Senick wrote:


>> I use the full name for the benefit of those who scour
>> the archives, myself included.

Dwight> The problem with that is that many of us have the distance from the
margin where a >> will be treated as marking a quote set too narrow for
Dwight> the long names you are using. Therefore they don't get marked as
Dwight> quotes and it's confusing.

I don't really follow you but thanks for trying to
explain.  Nevertheless, two complaints is enough for me to admit
I am in the wrong here.  Dwight, could you send me a sample of
your reply template to my personal address?  I just want to see
what you mean in regards to marking quotes by referencing margin
distance.

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Re: Bug or my mistake?

[James Senick]

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Hello Nick,

On Tue, 05 Mar 2002, at 08:00:02 [GMT -0800] (which was 11:00:02
AM in NY, USA) Nick Andriash wrote:

>> Thanks again...the next time I compose a message with
>> your personal preferences at stake, I'll keep that in mind.

Nick Andriash> My reply was in the interests of everyone who has to read malformed
Nick Andriash> Replies, so there was no need for your above remark. The reference to a
Nick Andriash> single quote prefix was just my own personal preference and was not
Nick Andriash> meant to insinuate you should use it... it was only a choice, along with
Nick Andriash> use of initials.

Don't sweat it...nothing more than a bit of sharp edged
humor.  But since you speak on behalf of "the interests of
everyone who has to read malformed replies" I shall alter my
quoting style. ;)

Is there a way to change quoting prefixes on a folder
level?  I need to keep them as is for other mail in this
particular account.

Nick Andriash> As to the problem with wrapping quoted text, you can include the
Nick Andriash> following macro in your Reply Template:

Nick Andriash> %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

You're correct...my mistake.  I was sure that my template
was set to wrap them but it is not.

But back to my original question, is the re-send command
supposed to trigger the "Send Queued Mail" command as a side
effect as well?

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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, 9:26:14 AM, James Senick wrote:


> I use the full name for the benefit of those who scour
> the archives, myself included.

The problem with that is that many of us have the distance from the
margin where a > will be treated as marking a quote set too narrow for
the long names you are using. Therefore they don't get marked as
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Re: Bug or my mistake?

[Nick Andriash]

Hello DG Raftery Sr.,

On Tuesday, March 05 2002 at 08:24 AM PDT, you wrote:

> How come all your replies are sent with the Mailer indicator as Becky!
> ver. 2.00.08 in the header?

The reason is I switched to using a Laptop with a small screen, as
opposed to a nice 17" Desktop Monitor. As a result I find that Becky's
GUI is better suited to small screens... I can get more information on
it compared to TB. When money allows, I will purchase a nice new Dell
Laptop with a 15.1" screen and TB will once again be my Client of choice.


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Re: Bug or my mistake?

[Lars Geiger]

Hi DG,
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002 at 11:24:59 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

DRS> How come all your replies are sent with the Mailer indicator as
DRS> Becky! ver. 2.00.08 in the header?

The simple explanation would be that Nick is using Becky... :-) Maybe
there is a more complex one I'm not aware of.

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Re[2]: Bug or my mistake?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

Tuesday, March 05, 2002
11:23:29 AM
RE: "Bug or my mistake?"

Greetings Nick,

On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, 11:00:02 AM, you wrote:

Nick> As to the problem with wrapping quoted text, you can include the
Nick> following macro in your Reply Template:

Nick> %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

Nick> Although that macro will only wrap the first paragraph of quoted text,
Nick> it is a simple matter to highlight any remaining text and use Alt+L.

How come all your replies are sent with the Mailer indicator as Becky! ver. 2.00.08
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Re: Bug or my mistake?

[Nick Andriash]

Hello James Senick,

On Tuesday, March 05 2002 at 07:26 AM PDT, you wrote:

> Thanks again...the next time I compose a message with
> your personal preferences at stake, I'll keep that in mind.

My reply was in the interests of everyone who has to read malformed
Replies, so there was no need for your above remark. The reference to a
single quote prefix was just my own personal preference and was not
meant to insinuate you should use it... it was only a choice, along with
use of initials.

As to the problem with wrapping quoted text, you can include the
following macro in your Reply Template:

%WRAPPED="%Quotes"

Although that macro will only wrap the first paragraph of quoted text,
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Re: Bug or my mistake?

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Hello Nick,

On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, at 22:16:17 [GMT -0800] (which was 1:16:17
AM in NY, USA) Nick Andriash wrote:

Nick Andriash> As a side note, you can see that your quoting method needs improving. I
Nick Andriash> would first suggest that you not use the 'Name' as a quote prefix...

Thanks for taking the time to drop in to tell me that.

Nick Andriash> especially when using tabs... because the prefix becomes too long. Try

Actually, the problem is two-fold:  First, TB doesn't
wrap quoted / pasted text in the editor.  Thus the final message
result is a guess at best.  Second, I didn't account for the
tabs in the original message though I feel this is something
that should be done automatically.

I use the full name for the benefit of those who scour
the archives, myself included.

Nick Andriash> initials if you must, but personally I like the KISS principle and
simply use a ">>". :o)

Thanks again...the next time I compose a message with
your personal preferences at stake, I'll keep that in mind.

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Re: bug or not?

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On  28  January  2001 at 13:44:09 +0700 (which was 06:44 where I live)
wie wrote and made these points:

>   look at pic...

Just  to  keep it clear, the rules of these lists are that attachments
aren't  allowed.  This  one  is  not too big and not too bad, but if I
don't say something there will be more.

The way it should be done is for images to be put on the web somewhere
and a link to the image sent to the list.

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[Jan Bauch]

28.01.2001 @ 12:34

Moin Peter !

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>>> just click (block) the area... and from name appear just 1 char??

> here the name disappears completely, not even one char is left ...

Confirmed

> But only in the full message view window, not in the preview window.

Confirmed too.


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Hello Peter, 

(PH == "Peter Hampf") [EMAIL PROTECTED] noticed:

PH> But only in the full message view window, not in the preview
PH> window.

Yep, exactly.

PH> It's maaagic .. ;-)

I probably need to get The Wand Service Pack 1 then. :)

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[Peter Hampf]

Hello Brian,

on Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:09:49 -0500 GMT your local time you wrote:

w>> just click (block) the area... and from name appear just 1 char??

BC> This is what myself and a few others reported some time ago, but very
BC> few people could reproduce it.

here the name disappears completely, not even one char is left ...

But only in the full message view window, not in the preview window.

BC> What I did to make it go away, I'll never know.

It's maaagic .. ;-)

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Hello wie, 

(w == "wie") [EMAIL PROTECTED] recited:

w> just click (block) the area... and from name appear just 1 char??

This is what myself and a few others reported some time ago, but very
few people could reproduce it.

This /still/ happens for me. Something I did made it go away for a
while, but it's back again. What I did to make it go away, I'll never
know.

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bug or not?

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Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.49c
  Serial Number 30101978
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:

  look at pic...

  Steps to reproduce the bug:

  just click (block) the area... and from name appear just 1
  char??

  is this bug or not?

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Bug or not...whatever

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A Chairde,

Bug Subject: VIEWER ICONS

Bug Description: Attachment icons for html messages do not show up in a
viewer message list until after you've selected a message

Repeatable: Yes.
Confirmed: NO


System: M$ Windoze 98 SE
Processor: AMD
RAM: 128MB

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Bug or feature in PGP key generation

[iszendro]

Hi, fellow Batters,

Another "bug or feature?":

Click on Tools - PGP - Key Manager.

Now click on The Bat! icon in the task bar and try to click on
something, select a message, get new mail, anything. No response, The
Bat! is waiting for you to exit Key Manager.

Best regards
Istvan Szendro

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