NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Rob

Hello bat(wo)men,

can i use the "NOMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]" command on the listserver
to temporarily unsubscribe ?? or do i have to use the "unsubscribe" address
found at the bottom of each post and then subscribe again when i'm back ??

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Rob,

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 at 09:55:14 GMT +0100 [Saturday, February 12, 2000
15:55 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

R can i use the "NOMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]" command on the listserver
R to temporarily unsubscribe ?? or do i have to use the "unsubscribe" address
R found at the bottom of each post and then subscribe again when i'm back ??

You can use "NOMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thenwhileback,use"NORMAL   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Please  address  to  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[I  know  you  got the help message from our server, but that's rather
out   of  date,  and  for  the  right  one
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Rob,

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 at 17:45:41 GMT +0100 [Saturday, February 12, 2000
23:45 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

 You can use "NOMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

R i  already  tried  it  on TBBETA and it works fine, even without my
R e-mail address - it just takes the sender's address.

I  saw  that, nice to hear it work (due on Mdaemon beta 3.0k not work,
now  we  use  3.0n  and  will  upgrade  to 3.0 rc3 next week). Current
version only notify the requester only (about change the mode).

 use "NORMAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

R i  thought  "MAIL  etc." ?? that's what it says in the help message
R ... "NORMAL" means non-digest, i think.

NORMAL can be use as general command to (back to) normal mode, but you
can use MAIL ... instead.

R i like this NOMAIL better than UNSUBSCRIBE, that sounds so definite
R ... ;-)

:-)  so  do  I,  because you (still) can post to the list (response to
what you see on http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com).

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Allie Martin

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:55:14 +0100, Rob wrote:

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First, I was wondering about one of these statements and the
need for it. Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Allie Martin,

On  Sat,  12 Feb 2000 at 13:53:20 GMT -0500 [Sunday, February 13, 2000
01:53 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AM First,  I was wondering about one of these statements and the need
AM for  it.  Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
AM now

Since  when  ?  Are  you  running "X-ray" or other program for "header
filtering" ? No problem here.
Anyone ?

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Nick Andriash

On Saturday, February 12, 2000, 11:08:55 AM, Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

AM First,  I was wondering about one of these statements and the need
AM for  it.  Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
AM now

 Since  when  ?  Are  you  running "X-ray" or other program for "header
 filtering" ? No problem here.
 Anyone ?

Well, I'm not getting two, but I do question the need for it in the first
place. When did they start putting that in?

Nick

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Re[2]: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Larry Barrett

Hello Syafril,

Saturday, February 12, 2000, 5:08:55 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Allie Martin,

 On  Sat,  12 Feb 2000 at 13:53:20 GMT -0500 [Sunday, February 13, 2000
 01:53 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AM First,  I was wondering about one of these statements and the need
AM for  it.  Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
AM now

 Since  when  ?  Are  you  running "X-ray" or other program for "header
 filtering" ? No problem here.
 Anyone ?


Mine is okay.

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Nick Andriash,

On  Sat,  12 Feb 2000 at 11:16:05 GMT -0800 [Sunday, February 13, 2000
02:16 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

AM First,  I was wondering about one of these statements and the need
AM for  it.  Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
AM now

 Since  when  ?  Are  you  running "X-ray" or other program for "header
 filtering" ? No problem here.
 Anyone ?

NA Well,  I'm  not  getting two, but I do question the need for it in
NA the first place.

I   realize   that   many of member having more than one mail address,
and forgot which address they use for subscribe to this list.
In  the  past,  I  see a lot of member trying to unsub without success
because of this, that's why I was adding it on the footer.

NA When did they start putting that in?

Do  you remember when I made 3 test messages on TBBETA ?
We start since then.
[I am at home, so have no archive (my HDD space limited here)]

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread Allie Martin

On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 02:08:55 +0700, Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

 Since  when  ?  Are  you  running "X-ray" or other program for "header
 filtering" ? No problem here.
 Anyone ?

It seemed to be transient. It has now stopped.

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Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Homesick Mac

Sunday, February 13, 2000

Hi folks,

The scenario:

I get a new message which is directly filtered to assigned folder. OK

After all other messages are received I click on that folder icon. OK

The  message  highlighted / viewed is the last viewed message from some
earlier  session,  and  _not_  the  newest  one just arrived. Not OK, I
guess.

Why  is  this  happening  and am I missing some configurable option/setting
here?

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Re: NOMAIL command for temporary unsubscribe ???

2000-02-12 Thread tracer

Hello Allie Martin,
On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:53:20  -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, February 13, 2000, 1:53:20 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Allie Martin wrote:


 On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:55:14 +0100, Rob wrote:

 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 First, I was wondering about one of these statements and the
 need for it. Now that I'm seeing two per message I have to mention it
 now

I see one...

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Steve Lamb

Saturday, February 12, 2000, 6:09:08 PM, Homesick wrote:
 The  message  highlighted / viewed is the last viewed message from some
 earlier  session,  and  _not_  the  newest  one just arrived. Not OK, I
 guess.

 Why  is  this  happening  and am I missing some configurable option/setting
 here?

It is happening because that is a logical thing to do.  Put you right
where you were when you were last in that folder.  There is a problem with
this?

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread John De Hoog

Hi, all,

Steve Lamb wrote...

 Why  is  this  happening  and am I missing some configurable option/setting
 here?

SL It is happening because that is a logical thing to do.  Put you right
SL where you were when you were last in that folder.  There is a problem with
SL this?

   It's the logical thing for people who want it that way, but other
   programs at least give you the option of opening a folder at a new
   message, not an old one you've already read once.

   What The Bat! does is require one extra key stroke (CTRL + ]) to
   find an unread message. It doesn't even give you a means of finding
   the next unread message in a different folder directly, because
   when you jump to a new folder, you'll be at an already read
   message. Sorry, Steve, I don't see how you can so dogmatically say
   this is "the logical thing to do." Many people like to read new
   messages when they go to a folder, not old ones.  If that option is
   not available now, it ought to be made available in a new version.

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Steve Lamb

Saturday, February 12, 2000, 10:51:00 PM, John wrote:
 Sorry, Steve, I don't see how you can so dogmatically say this is "the
 logical thing to do." Many people like to read new messages when they go to
 a folder, not old ones. If that option is not available now, it ought to be
 made available in a new version.

Maybe because that is the behavior of more clients than I care to think
about?  What's to say that when you go into a folder you want to open the new
message RIGHT NOW.  I know I keep unread messages in most of my folders
because I don't feel like reading them RIGHT NOW but need to access data in
other folders.

One whole keystroke.  I feel for you, really.  NOT.

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread John De Hoog

Steve Lamb wrote...

SL  One whole keystroke.  I feel for you, really.  NOT.

Yeah, thanks for thinking of me, pal. I guess you are the one who
gets to make all the interface decisions for all the rest of us,
eh?  Nice attitude.

I'm telling you that The Bat! has a problem when it comes to
keyboard navigation to new articles. If you don't see this, then
maybe the developers will open their eyes to it, at least.
   

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Steve Lamb

On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 04:11:34PM +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
 I'm telling you that The Bat! has a problem when it comes to
 keyboard navigation to new articles. If you don't see this, then
 maybe the developers will open their eyes to it, at least.

TB! has a HUGE problem with they keyboard, period.  Doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure that out.  However, when while little pricks decide to say
that *ONE* keystroke is too much trouble, especially on logical behavior, I
have *NO* sympathy for them at all.

So do yourself a favor, get over it.  There is a lot more that TB!'s
programmers can do to make it easier to use and yours ain't even near the top
of the list.

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread John De Hoog


Steve Lamb wrote...

SL However, when while little pricks decide to say
SL that *ONE* keystroke is too much trouble, especially on logical behavior, I
SL have *NO* sympathy for them at all.

   
   I don't need your sympathy, let alone your "when while little
   pricks" blathering, but I am asking for an option that's available
   on many more mail clients than I care to mention and should be
   available on The Bat!

   (I thought your roughing up of another poster the other day was
   just a bad hair day, but I see your attitude problems extend even
   further. Lighten up, dude; it's just a piece of software.)

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Tom Plunket


JDH Sorry, Steve, I don't see how you can so dogmatically say this is "the
JDH logical thing to do." Many people like to read new messages when they go to
JDH a folder, not old ones. If that option is not available now, it ought to be
JDH made available in a new version.

SL Maybe because that is the behavior of more clients than I care to think
SL about?  What's to say that when you go into a folder you want to open the new
SL message RIGHT NOW.  I know I keep unread messages in most of my folders
SL because I don't feel like reading them RIGHT NOW but need to access data in
SL other folders.

Besides the fact that Steve proves himself again to be an empathetic
and helpful person, I agree whole heartedly with him.  I keep unread
messages around 'cause I don't want to read them right now.  If TB!
went to them, I'd have to read them RIGHT NOW or figure out what
keystroke, if there is one, allows me to mark it unread à la Agent's
'X' keystroke (which toggles a message's read state).

SLOne whole keystroke.  I feel for you, really.  NOT.

Steve must be just getting back from vacation. I haven't missed this
attitude at all.  It's kind of funny, the irony of this, after the
threads upon threads about adding functionality to templates or
whatever to reduce keystrokes, and the general consensus (including
Steve, I would imagine) that one keystroke is easy for anyone but that
one stroke repeated a thousand times over the course of a day gets a
bit tiresome.

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Header question

2000-02-12 Thread Tom Plunket


I'm on this mailing list that sets Resent-Reply-To to the list address
instead of setting Reply-To at all. Is this appropriate? If so, TB!
doesn't honor it. Should it? Certainly fits into the idea of not
munging the headers in the case that the Reply-To was already set...

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Re: Why not highlighting the newest message in the folder ?

2000-02-12 Thread Steve Lamb

On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 04:35:35PM +0900, John De Hoog wrote:
I don't need your sympathy, let alone your "when while little
pricks" blathering, but I am asking for an option that's available
on many more mail clients than I care to mention and should be
available on The Bat!

Maybe in your own little dillusional world, not reality, boy.  If we all
had our own little pet options in the client so we could eliminate a keystroke
here and a keystroke there then the damned client would be psychic, wouldn't
it.  THAT IS AN INOBTAINABLE GOAL.  If your fingers are so cramped, go
elsewhere where whining pricks like yourselve can bitch and moan to one
another about how the software doesn't suck you off quite the right way.

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Address book

2000-02-12 Thread Tom Plunket


Hey I have a question now on the Address Book.

It seems kinda funny.  I've filled in the "handle/nickname" field with
the name I want to type to get the entry to pop up, but it doesn't
seem to work that way.

For example, say I'm on the "Bill Jaimeson Scary Feature Film" mailing
list, and I type that in as the mailing list name.  However, I want to
type in "bjsff" to get the address to pop up, since I may have other
entries in my address book to "Bill Franck", "Bill O'Malley", and
"Bill Paulsen".  These entries, say, have as their nicknames "billf",
"bill" and "bpaulsen".

Do nicknames not work like this?  Do I really have to type in "bill $"
where $ is the first letter of the next word in their name?

Thanks.

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