Re: Catching CC'd Mail

2000-08-02 Thread Nick Andriash

On August 1, 2000, at 10:46:05 PM, Nick Andriash Wrote:

NA I'll let you know how it turned out. :o)

It worked out beautifully... as Jast said it would. :o)  I think I will
leave things as they are now, with TBUDL, TBBETA and TBOT all filtering
on the Reply-To: headers. I will check all my other Lists as well, and
see if something similar will work with them.

Thanks for your help Januk... :o)


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Re: Catching CC'd Mail

2000-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Curtis,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:50:15 -0500GMT (02/08/2000, 04:50 +0800GMT),
Curtis wrote:

C I don't know a way out of that dilemma. I usually move them
C manually to their respective locations. In fact I've been deleting
C Thomas' CC'd messages thinking they were duplicates.

You deleted my messages? Step outside with me, and we'll have a
serious talk about this.

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Here comes the trout! - was Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Nick, 

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 at 15:04:46 [GMT -0700], you wrote:
NA Take a look at my TBUDL Template to see an example.

Nick, nick, nick!!! furious trout slapping ensues

Ok, once again! Please do NOT post attachments to TBUDL with exception
to PGP keys and certificates, and even then, don't make it an "every
single message to the list has my key attached" type thing!

There are quite a few people on this list who pay for Internet access
by the amount of data transferred.

Thank you.



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Re: Catching CC'd Mail

2000-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Januk,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:19:34 -0700GMT (02/08/2000, 13:19 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

 How does it do that if there are no specific instructions in the filter
 to do so? My TBUDL filter looks for the "X-MDMailing-List:" header and
 filters off of that. How is it going to pick up on the Cc: header?

JA  It won't find the CC header.  But depending on which list the message
JA  is coming through, the X-MDMailing-List header will be different for
JA  each of the two copies that you receive.

With RegEx it will. Check the archives, Marck (I believe) answered
this with a search for any cc recipient, TBUDL in this example:

"CC: (something meaning zero or more other characters) TBUDL"

(without parenthesis). Of course, I don't recall what this mysterious
"something" was, a question mark, an asterics, a dollar sign... but
the idea is clear, I believe. This way, you can search for any string
in the CC header. It does not matter whether the recipient you are
looking for is the fist or the n-th in the cc-list.

Of course, you have to set "Presence: Yes" and "Location: kludges".

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Re: Catching CC'd Mail

2000-08-02 Thread Nick Andriash

On August 1, 2000, at 10:50:52 PM, Curtis Wrote:

C If you filter using the "Reply to: " string
C information then both messages will be filtered to their respective
C folders as they should and did for me.

Yes... exactly, and this how I now have the majority of my Mailing Lists
set up... to filter on the Reply-To: headers. Now all Cc'd mail will get
delivered to their respective destinations as well. :o)

Thanks for everyone's help... sorry if I was a bit pesky with this, but
it had been nagging at me for some time, and it's a relief to finally
have resolved the problem.


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Re: Cancel connection

2000-08-02 Thread Nick Andriash

On August 1, 2000, at 9:40:09 PM, Cameleon Wrote:

C I  upgraded  to  1.45,  and  it  seems  now  impossible  to cancel POP
C retrieval ? Pushing the "cancel" button has no effect !

That feature only works in the current 1.46 Beta 2 version.


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Re: Cancel connection

2000-08-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Cameleon,


On  Tuesday, August 01, 2000  at  21:40:09 GMT -0700 (which was 9:40 PM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 Hi,

 I  upgraded  to  1.45,  and  it  seems  now  impossible  to cancel POP
 retrieval ? Pushing the "cancel" button has no effect !

 That is a known bug in the 1.45 series.  It has been fixed in the
 1.46 betas.  Hopefully RITLabs will release the final release of 1.46
 sometime in the near future.


 

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Re: Here comes the trout! - was Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread Nick Andriash

On August 1, 2000, at 10:59:52 PM, Leif Gregory Wrote:

LG Nick, nick, nick!!! furious trout slapping ensues

Yes, I know... I still feel the stinging from the last go around. :o(
Allie had earlier enlightened me as to my mistake. :o(


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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Marck,


On  Tuesday, August 01, 2000  at  16:44:27 GMT +0100 (which was 8:44 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

 That's  a good idea. Every time I create a new folder I have to set my
 favourite switches over and over.

 Just an offbeat idea, but it may be useful if you create folders
 often enough.  What if you created a dummy folder with all the
 settings the way you like them.  Then when you need a new folder, you
 could use Windows Explorer to copy it into the appropriate spot in
 your folder hierarchy.  It was a bit quirky when I tried it, but it
 may be worthwhile depending on the complexity of your setup.


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Re[2]: Cancel connection

2000-08-02 Thread Cameleon


Hi,

C I  upgraded  to  1.45,  and  it  seems  now  impossible  to cancel POP
C retrieval ? Pushing the "cancel" button has no effect !

 That feature only works in the current 1.46 Beta 2 version.


Ho :-( Strange, as it was working fine in the previous versions :)

Well...  How to become a "beta-tester" hum ? As I promote the software
onto my "clients" hum ?


Cameleon
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WHEN normal PGP Plug-in will come ?

2000-08-02 Thread Alexander A. Gomanyuk

Hello Batmans,

  May be some good man will clarify the situation with PGP plug-in ?
  When we should wait new PGPG plug-in with automatic encrypting
  attached files and without bug, crashing international code set ?

Regards, Your sincerely registered
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Re: s/mime and certificates

2000-08-02 Thread Gerd Ewald

Hi Patrick,

on Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:45:22 +0200 GMT
your local time, which was 01.08.2000, 16:45:22 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE i have my own certificate but i'm not able to import it btw..

I would like to forward part of a message I sent earlier to this list. Maybe the
mentioned URL is a good start for you.

++BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE+
snip

Nevertheless after installing TB! 1.45 S/MIME you need to implement so-called
certificates. Good explanation for downloading and implementation of
certificates is http://www.mindquake.com.br/thebat/. To download a certificate
of my trustcenter (WEB.DE) goto http://trust.web.de/root.sql.

snip
++END FORWARDED MESSAGE+++

HTH

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Re[2]: s/mime and certificates

2000-08-02 Thread Patrick Erler

hallo Gerd!

on Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 10:15:18 AM, you wrote:

GE Hi Patrick,

GE on Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:45:22 +0200 GMT
GE your local time, which was 01.08.2000, 16:45:22 (GMT+0200) my local time,
GE you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE i have my own certificate but i'm not able to import it btw..

GE I would like to forward part of a message I sent earlier to this list. Maybe the
GE mentioned URL is a good start for you.

GE ++BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE+
GE snip

GE Nevertheless after installing TB! 1.45 S/MIME you need to implement so-called
GE certificates. Good explanation for downloading and implementation of
GE certificates is http://www.mindquake.com.br/thebat/. To download a certificate
GE of my trustcenter (WEB.DE) goto http://trust.web.de/root.sql.

GE snip
GE ++END FORWARDED MESSAGE+++

GE HTH


alles klar.. :) the problem with the S/MIME certificates is that they
are browser dependent.. thats not acceptable for me because i use that
lot of browsers as a webdesigner that permanently exporting and
importing of certificates is way to much trouble.. so i will stay with
PGP as it looks...


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Re[3]: s/mime and certificates

2000-08-02 Thread Gerd Ewald

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Patrick,

on Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:45:58 +0200 GMT
your local time, which was 02.08.2000, 10:45:58 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE the problem with the S/MIME certificates is that they
PE are browser dependent.. thats not acceptable for me because i use that
PE lot of browsers as a webdesigner that permanently exporting and
PE importing of certificates is way to much trouble.. so i will stay with
PE PGP as it looks...

Mmmmh... I don't think S/MIME certificates are browser dependant. AFAIK the way
d/ling them is browser dependant. Once you have your certificate and that one of
your trustcenter you can import these into TB! (you need your own adress in the
adress book and one or two adresses in Trusted Root CA and Intermediate CA to
import the trustcenter's certificate.

But you are right using PGP :-))

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i
Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald

iQA/AwUBOYfX2Uy/sHrVbGGHEQJSdgCgsvFctUDuIziV5elWgeC5ajz1r8AAn2RQ
CJs6UcsWvu7wjezBw8xSNz5M
=qBOu
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

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Re[2]: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread John Phillips

Hello Leif,

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 7:38:54 AM, you wrote:

LG Hello John,

snipped

 JP PS I also find that Ctrl C will not copy to the clipboard from
JP an e-mail. What is the trick here? Thanks.

LG I don't have any problems with it. Can you let us know what types of
LG messages you're having problems with? i.e. HTML or plaintext.






LG Cheers,
LG Leif Gregory 

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Thanks for the reply.  Problems with plain text.  Also finding
Del will not delete marked text - have to use Ctrl Del. Is this
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Re[2]: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread John Phillips

Hello Jast,

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 7:48:06 AM, you wrote:

J Morning John Phillips,

   Just a quick question - is there a primer somewhere how to use the
   %TO macro correctly?  I need to always add a particular recipient in
   the "to" field of an e-mail from a particular folder in a template -
   for instance to the bat mailing list from the Bat! folder, etc.

J  Just put somewhere in the folder template your macro in the form

J   %to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

J  This will add the specified address to the recipients list. If you
J  want an exclusive recipient, then put

J   %to=""
J   %to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

J  or in one line

J   %to=""%to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Done this - works well, and thanks to all the help from contributors.
One thing I have found is that if I use %TO as above, then a couple
of lines of text (in the template of course) followed by %CURSOR,
%CURSOR is ignored, the cursor remains in the beginning of the "To"
field in Compose new Message window.  Is there a further trick here
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Re: Cancel connection

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Cameleon,

On 02 August 2000 at 22:28:17 GMT -0700 (which was 06:28 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Cancel connection":

C I  upgraded  to  1.45,  and it seems now impossible to cancel POP
C retrieval ? Pushing the "cancel" button has no effect !

 That feature only works in the current 1.46 Beta 2 version.

C Ho :-( Strange, as it was working fine in the previous versions :)

It did.

C Well...  How to become a "beta-tester" hum ? As I promote the software
C onto my "clients" hum ?

The beta is open to us all. Announcements and discussions of betas
appear on the TBBETA list. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The latest beta can be got at through:
http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html or downloaded from the
RITLabs FTP site ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta.

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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Januk,

On 02 August 2000 at 23:14:32 GMT -0700 (which was 07:14 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Some questions":

 That's  a good idea. Every time I create a new folder I have to set
 my favourite switches over and over.

JA  Just an offbeat idea, but it may be useful if you create folders
JA  often enough.  What if you created a dummy folder with all the
JA  settings the way you like them.  Then when you need a new folder, you
JA  could use Windows Explorer to copy it into the appropriate spot in
JA  your folder hierarchy.  It was a bit quirky when I tried it, but it
JA  may be worthwhile depending on the complexity of your setup.

That could work quite well.

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Re[4]: s/mime and certificates

2000-08-02 Thread Patrick Erler

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

hallo Gerd!

on Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 11:11:58 AM, you wrote:

GE -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
GE Hash: SHA1

GE Hi Patrick,

GE on Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:45:58 +0200 GMT
GE your local time, which was 02.08.2000, 10:45:58 (GMT+0200) my local time,
GE you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE the problem with the S/MIME certificates is that they
PE are browser dependent.. thats not acceptable for me because i use that
PE lot of browsers as a webdesigner that permanently exporting and
PE importing of certificates is way to much trouble.. so i will stay with
PE PGP as it looks...

GE Mmmmh... I don't think S/MIME certificates are browser dependant. AFAIK the way
GE d/ling them is browser dependant. Once you have your certificate and that one of
GE your trustcenter you can import these into TB! (you need your own adress in the
GE adress book and one or two adresses in Trusted Root CA and Intermediate CA to
GE import the trustcenter's certificate.
right... i just could not find mine and tried to reinstall it into ie
from the email i received when i got my certificate but they told me
that i now use another browser..

btw, your signature is "invalid" here (bat 1.46/b2)...

PAT
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQCVAwUBOYfdE28xdMM1MXPvAQHRaQQArPOdnEU0hYriiFEo4nNM/HCNxN/ZSzs+
4ZpjVB27vPJCivIzR2b9tGFhMnBF0jZRkVbhlG4kh7mxsyXPBzxtxwPoN+Vi41wP
8KqGvS4fzYD5a5sPOCrtutOO8QFJjUAA2bHuKv/4HFoT6dd3XKItNSkH3cHzWqRj
Idqvmcwi8ks=
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Re: s/mime and certificates

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Gerd,

On 02 August 2000 at 11:11:58 GMT +0200 (which was 10:11 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "s/mime and certificates":

GE Once you have your certificate and that one of your trustcenter
GE you can import these into TB! (you need your own adress in the
GE adress book and one or two adresses in Trusted Root CA and
GE Intermediate CA to import the trustcenter's certificate.

Do you know that your WEB.DE certificate flags up as Invalid?

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Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi John,

On 02 August 2000 at 19:05:14 GMT +1000 (which was 10:05 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Macros - I am computer challenged g":

JP PS I also find that Ctrl C will not copy to the clipboard from
JP an e-mail. What is the trick here? Thanks.

LG I don't have any problems with it. Can you let us know what types of
LG messages you're having problems with? i.e. HTML or plaintext.

JP Thanks for the reply. Problems with plain text. Also finding Del
JP will not delete marked text - have to use Ctrl Del. Is this
JP normal?

Check your editor settings - make sure that "persistent blocks" is off
and "Overwrite blocks" is on. No idea why Ctrl-C wouldn't work for you
... unless it has been redefined as a hot-key elsewhere.

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Re[2]: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread John Phillips

Hello Marck,

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 7:38:28 PM, you wrote:

MDP Hi John,


MDP Check your editor settings - make sure that "persistent blocks" is off
MDP and "Overwrite blocks" is on. No idea why Ctrl-C wouldn't work for you
MDP ... unless it has been redefined as a hot-key elsewhere.


Thanks.  That did the trick!

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Re[2]: Cancel connection

2000-08-02 Thread Marc

Hello Januk,

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 2:18:49 am, you wrote:

JA Hello Cameleon,


JA On  Tuesday, August 01, 2000  at  21:40:09 GMT -0700 (which was 9:40 PM
JA where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 Hi,

 I  upgraded  to  1.45,  and  it  seems  now  impossible  to cancel POP
 retrieval ? Pushing the "cancel" button has no effect !

JA  That is a known bug in the 1.45 series.  It has been fixed in the
JA  1.46 betas.  Hopefully RITLabs will release the final release of 1.46
JA  sometime in the near future.

I hope so! Had to kill the Bat! to stop it. Very messy... g

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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Ming-Li

Hi Marck,

JA  Just an offbeat idea, but it may be useful if you create
JA  folders often enough.  What if you created a dummy folder with
JA  all the settings the way you like them.  Then when you need a
JA  new folder, you could use Windows Explorer to copy it into the
JA  appropriate spot in your folder hierarchy.  It was a bit
JA  quirky when I tried it, but it may be worthwhile depending on
JA  the complexity of your setup.

 That could work quite well.

That's what I thought as well. But it doesn't work. Most, if not
all, folder properties (including templates) are stored in
"ACCOUNT.FLX" in each account's home directory. Copying directory in
Explorer could copy only the message base and index, which is not what we
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Filter Rules Stored in File?

2000-08-02 Thread Nick Andriash

Is there a file(s) that holds all of our Filter rules, or are they
somehow stored in the Registry under one of the two entries?  I've
looked at the files on my HDD, but can see nothing that would remotely
indicate it/they held those rules.


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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Ming-Li,

On 02 August 2000 at 05:31:41 GMT -0700 (which was 13:31 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Some questions":

JA  Just  an  offbeat  idea,  but  it  may  be useful if you create
JA  folders  often  enough. What if you created a dummy folder with
JA  all  the  settings  the way you like them. Then when you need a
JA  new  folder, you could use Windows Explorer to copy it into the
JA  appropriate  spot in your folder hierarchy. It was a bit quirky
JA  when  I  tried  it,  but  it may be worthwhile depending on the
JA  complexity of your setup.

 That could work quite well.

ML That's what I thought as well. But it doesn't work. Most, if not
ML all, folder properties (including templates) are stored in
ML "ACCOUNT.FLX" in each account's home directory. Copying directory
ML in Explorer could copy only the message base and index, which is
ML not what we want.

That's  exactly  what I thought but haven't had the time to check out.
Thanks  for  doing  that  Ming-Li. It *was* a good idea if it had been
workable :-).

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Re: Filter Rules Stored in File?

2000-08-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Nick,

On 02 August 2000 at 05:46:06 GMT -0700 (which was 13:46 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Filter Rules Stored in File?":

NA Is there a file(s) that holds all of our Filter rules, or are they
NA somehow stored in the Registry under one of the two entries? I've
NA looked at the files on my HDD, but can see nothing that would
NA remotely indicate it/they held those rules.

account.srx is the file.

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Re[2]: Filter Rules Stored in File?

2000-08-02 Thread Marc

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 9:02:37 am, you wrote:

NA Is there a file(s) that holds all of our Filter rules, or are they
NA somehow stored in the Registry under one of the two entries? I've
NA looked at the files on my HDD, but can see nothing that would
NA remotely indicate it/they held those rules.

MDP account.srx is the file.


That file is not editable :-( It would be nice to be able to manually
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Re: Here comes the trout! - was Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:59:52PM +0900, Leif Gregory wrote:
 There are quite a few people on this list who pay for Internet access
 by the amount of data transferred.

I'll have the spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans and spam..
But could you substitute spam for the baked beans?

Certainly, madam.
 
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Address book

2000-08-02 Thread Jamie Dainton [Bat]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello TBUDL,

  After importing 1000 contacts from and OE wab file is there any way
of applying a sorting filter to the address to regroup them?

I have had one idea which has not been tried yet. Create an e-mail
that is addressed to everyone. Place it in the outbox and use it to
sort that way.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOYgxkbO9xx6V8gurEQKG8gCg9Imtk85iJM/hblSIkPptKaC6TvoAoJ3p
TNQq4G1JmZ29FPNUbOa0YJUy
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Re: Here comes the trout! - was Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread tracer

Hello Leif Gregory,
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:59:52 +0900 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 12:59:52 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Leif Gregory wrote:


 Hello Nick, 

 On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 at 15:04:46 [GMT -0700], you wrote:
NA Take a look at my TBUDL Template to see an example.

 Nick, nick, nick!!! furious trout slapping ensues

 Ok, once again! Please do NOT post attachments to TBUDL with exception
 to PGP keys and certificates, and even then, don't make it an "every
 single message to the list has my key attached" type thing!

 There are quite a few people on this list who pay for Internet access
 by the amount of data transferred.

And as I was told, png seems to be better for shots like this and much
smaller Having verified it I would say have a look. Not to send
them to us but if you do you could save a lot of bytes...

 Thank you.



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Exporting TB to OE55

2000-08-02 Thread Michael Lines

Hello list,

short of emailing the messages back to myself, does anyone know
of a way to export messages in TB so that they can be read by
Outlook Express 5.5?

Regards,

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Re: Exporting TB to OE55

2000-08-02 Thread Deryk Lister

Hi Michael,
On Wednesday 02/08/2000 at 15:51, you wrote:

 short of emailing the messages back to myself, does anyone know
 of a way to export messages in TB so that they can be read by
 Outlook Express 5.5?

Remove threading with Alt-0 to see all messages, highlight the ones
that need to be exported, then export to .MSG files in a temp
directory.

Drop into a DOS prompt, change to the directory and do ren *.msg *.eml

Open outlook express, open the temp folder beside it, use ctrl-a to
highlight all the .eml files, then drag and drop them into the OE
inbox or one of its folders (on the tree view).

HTH
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text editor to remove duplicate lines?

2000-08-02 Thread icqman

thanks to those who email me how and where to download the 1.46 beta

just got it and testing it out.. a marvelous piece of engineering 
also sub to the_bat/beta.html


do you by any chance know of any txt editor which can remove identical lines?
i have got  a list of addresses which i joined from 5 other txts and it
came to some 5000 k and about 4 identical lines of each

it is taking me quite some time to delete the lines

thebat can delete identical mesasge a miracle LOL

but cant delete duplicate lines 

any ideas?

thanks in advance


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Re: text editor to remove duplicate lines?

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb

On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:14:55AM +0800, icqman wrote:
 do you by any chance know of any txt editor which can remove identical lines?
 i have got  a list of addresses which i joined from 5 other txts and it
 came to some 5000 k and about 4 identical lines of each

The GNU text utils would work wonders here.

type file | sort | uniq  file.new

Sort will put them all in order and then uniq will return only a single
occurance of any repeating line.

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A few questions before I move an entire corporation to TB.

2000-08-02 Thread Jason

Hello TBUDL,

  I have a customer that wishes to move all employees to the TB.  This
  organization is currently using OE, Outlook, NS, and Internet Mail.  I
  believe I have my exporting and importing work cut out for me!

  I had a few users send me some messages so I could check out some
  formatting issues, here's what I found.

  Many messages have an attachment (or several embedded attachments)
  named message.msg

  I have to double click the message several instances deep before I
  see that it is just an ordinary e-mail message that has bee
  forwarded many times.

  1) Why doesn't TB just nest down and show the message?
  2) What should I watch out for during this switch? Address Book
 issues? Message folder issues? and so on...
  3) I've noticed in my own TB (1.45), I have to activate the log
 panel view every time I start TB, before 1.45 it used to
 open by itself.

  4) How can I deploy this to the entire organization as easy as
  possible? Meaning common settings and such, does TB keep it's default
  settings in a particular file? One thing that comes to mind is a
  common corporate address book.  When I create a new address book, I
  can place it on a network drive, How can I do this once and have
  everyone see it?


  I hope I don't come off like an idiot, I just this to go smoothly
  for an extremely good customer.

Best regards,
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Re: A few questions before I move an entire corporation to TB.

2000-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Jason,

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:02:28 -0400 GMT (03/08/2000, 01:02 +0800 GMT),
Jason wrote:

J   I have a customer that wishes to move all employees to the TB.  This
J   organization is currently using OE, Outlook, NS, and Internet Mail.  I
J   believe I have my exporting and importing work cut out for me!

Congratulations to this job!

In my company, everybody is on a LAN with Ooutlook (not OE) and an
exchange server, so they can access their email from home. When I
switched to TB, I couldn't use the smtp server; I can send messages
within the company but not to the outside world (internet). The
colleagues on Outlook can, with the same smtp server setting (IP
address).

It has something to do with the settings of the Exchange Server, I was
told. I didn't understand what that has to do with using TB or
Outlook. I gave up and use an external smtp server. So be aware. I
hope you won't run into this problem, though. If you do, and youfind
the solution, kindly let me know about it. I know nothing about MS
Exchange, and our system administrator doesn't speak English.

J   3) I've noticed in my own TB (1.45), I have to activate the log
J  panel view every time I start TB, before 1.45 it used to
J  open by itself.

I don't have this problem. I always have the log activated and it
doesn't deactivate when I close TB.

I can't help you with the other questions, sorry.

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Re[2]: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Jamie Dainton

Hello Nick,

Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 9:00:54 PM, you wrote:

NA On August 1, 2000, at 6:50:53 AM, Jamie Dainton [Bat] Wrote:

C-  When  PGP-signing, if the text is auto-justified, signing breaks
Cthe format and creates very bad view of the message. Is it possible
Cto avoid that and keep the justification ?

JDB  Yes. Set wordwrap clear signed messages to 5 chars greater
JDB than the TB! word wrap. This is located in PGP-Options-Email

NA Unless I am misunderstanding you, I don't see the need to invoke PGP's
NA word wrapping at all. Disengage it altogether when using TB!  With the
NA use of fixed-width fonts, the Editor basically becomes WYSIWYG... so you
NA do not want PGP to re-wrap your message at all.

NA Remember that if you invoke PGP's word wrap, that PGP will wrap first,
NA followed by TB!, increasing the chances of breaking your PGP signature.

Fair  enough  point  although I haven't seen any unusable sigs created
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Re: text editor to remove duplicate lines?

2000-08-02 Thread Curtis

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:20:25 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
SL On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:14:55AM +0800, icqman wrote:
 do you by any chance know of any txt editor which can remove identical lines?
 i have got  a list of addresses which i joined from 5 other txts and it
 came to some 5000 k and about 4 identical lines of each

SL The GNU text utils would work wonders here.

SL type file | sort | uniq  file.new

SL Sort will put them all in order and then uniq will return only a single
SL occurance of any repeating line.

I'll add 'Finder' to that. http://www.scp.on.ca/finder.html

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Re: A few questions before I move an entire corporation to TB.

2000-08-02 Thread Jast

Morning Jason,

 4) How can I deploy this to the entire organization as easy as
 possible? Meaning common settings and such, does TB keep it's
 default settings in a particular file? One thing that comes to mind
 is a common corporate address book. When I create a new address
 book, I can place it on a network drive, How can I do this once and
 have everyone see it?

 The address book files have the extension "abd" The configuration
 file (addrbook.ini) that stores the path to these is in the \mail
 subdirectory. So having a reference to the file in there should work.

 BTW, with file inclusion templates you can even have corporate
 signatures, if that is something you desire.

 A lot of user specific UI data (and other minor things) are stored in
 the registry.

 account configuration files:

.srx - filters
.fld - folders
.qtn - quick templates
.cfg - basic configuration
.log - log

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User Profiles and TB!

2000-08-02 Thread Bailey, Jason

Hello TBUDL,

I'm experiencing something quite bizarre. I have a laptop that I take
to and from work. At work I login as userX and at home as userY. This
is so that programs that I use only at work don't start up
automatically when I'm at home. I configured TB! to look at the same
directories in both profiles. Now the weird stuff. I don't see the
same emails in both profiles! Under one profile I have 96 emails in
the other I have 4?!? I guess there must be a registry entry that is
affecting this. Could somebody please advise me on how I might resolve
this minor annoyance?

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Re: Macros - I am computer challenged g

2000-08-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello John,


On  Wednesday, August 02, 2000  at  19:16:01 GMT +1000 (which was 2:16 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 One thing I have found is that if I use %TO as above, then a couple
 of lines of text (in the template of course) followed by %CURSOR,
 %CURSOR is ignored, the cursor remains in the beginning of the "To"
 field in Compose new Message window.  Is there a further trick here
 also?
  
 I think this is working as intended.  The %cursor macro takes effect
 the first time you tab into the body panel for a given message.



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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Marck,


On  Wednesday, August 02, 2000  at  13:46:59 GMT +0100 (which was 5:46 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 That's  exactly  what I thought but haven't had the time to check out.
 Thanks  for  doing  that  Ming-Li. It *was* a good idea if it had been
 workable :-).

 Well that also explains why it was quirky for me.  I have my accounts
 setup to be pretty much identical, so I didn't notice this pitfall.
 However, there is one other option.  Create a dummy account and
 folder, and back them up.  Then when you need a new folder in TB,
 move the dummy folder using TB.  Then restore the dummy folder from
 your backup in Windows Explorer.  With a self-extracting ZIP or a
 batch file, this can be made fairly simple.

 

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Re: Some questions

2000-08-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello,


On  Wednesday, August 02, 2000  at  19:12:04 GMT -0700 (which was 7:12 PM
where I live I would hope) I typed:

  However, there is one other option.  Create a dummy account and
  folder, and back them up.  Then when you need a new folder in TB,
  move the dummy folder using TB.  Then restore the dummy folder from
  your backup in Windows Explorer.  With a self-extracting ZIP or a
  batch file, this can be made fairly simple.

 I haven't worked the solution for this part out yet, so this is just
a warning.  Note that if you use this method to create new accounts,
then you *must* rename the account folder in Windows Explorer.  When
you rename accounts in TB, the corresponding changes are *not* made
in the folder structure.  In case this isn't clear, suppose I have an
account in TB called JA with folders,

 JA
   |_ A
   |
   |_ B
   |_B1

Then in Windows Explorer, my mail directory would contain folders,

 Mail
|_ JA
 |_ A
 |
 |_ B
 |_B1

In TB I can rename my account to Januk.  In Windows Explorer, I would
still see

 Mail
|_ JA
 |_ A
 |
 |_ B
 |_B1
 
So restoring the dummy account from a batch file would destroy a new
account, if the new account was created by renaming a dummy account.

Is this almost as clear as mud now?  g


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Re: User Profiles and TB!

2000-08-02 Thread Bailey, Jason

Hello TBUDL,

Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 3:31:25 PM, you wrote:

BJ Hello TBUDL,

BJ I'm experiencing something quite bizarre. I have a laptop that I take
BJ to and from work. At work I login as userX and at home as userY. This
BJ is so that programs that I use only at work don't start up
BJ automatically when I'm at home. I configured TB! to look at the same
BJ directories in both profiles. Now the weird stuff. I don't see the
BJ same emails in both profiles! Under one profile I have 96 emails in
BJ the other I have 4?!? I guess there must be a registry entry that is
BJ affecting this. Could somebody please advise me on how I might resolve
BJ this minor annoyance?



U..nevermind, it was my own fault. It was a case of he using two
different names (and thus two different folders) when I was creating
the accounts. My own silliness caused thissorry to have bugged the
whole group with this one.

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About encryption

2000-08-02 Thread Cameleon


Hi,

Something  which  seems  not working fine in the 1.45, but was okay in
the previous versions:

If  by  default  I  select "Encrypt when completed" (in a template for
example), when I send the message (Ctrl-Enter), the PGP box appears to
select the keys.

If  I  want  NOT  to  encrypt  this email, in the 1.44 version, I just
pushed "ESC" and the mail was queued (or sent).

In  the  1.45, pushing ESC makes me come back to the email text, and I
can't  queue/send,  I  have  to  uncheck "Encrypt when completed" then
Ctrl-Enter.

Hope that will be fixed.


Cameleon
http://cameleon.org
All to be Anonymous on the Internet
PGP keys on server



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Colour groups for selected msgs

2000-08-02 Thread Drunin

Hi All,

I am using colour groups together with reply filters to put my 'coloured' replies to
the folders with message replied (to track personal correspondance), so I easily can
distinguish my own messages from my partner's ones.

What I dislike is that in the Colour group setup it is possible to set only
colours for not selected messages -- all selected messages look equal like cats in
the dark room.

Is it possible to do something here?

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Re: Exporting TB to OE55

2000-08-02 Thread Drunin

Hi Michael Lines,

ML short of emailing the messages back to myself, does anyone know
ML of a way to export messages in TB so that they can be read by
ML Outlook Express 5.5?

Export messages to .msg files then rename them to .eml. OE will read them.
HTH.

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