s/mime access violation
Hi, evaluting S/MIME functions got the following problem: signing of msgs works fine, encryption doesn't work, all I get is: access violation at address 0050AB6A. Read of address any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't matter), PGP not activated ...) /pk --- Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
SMTP
Hello TBUDL, Just for the record: I just found out that Operamail works very neatly with TB (IMAP, SMTP by login). Perhaps I am the only one that didn't know - but, apparently, there is no information on this, whatsoever, in Operamail's own help-file. The settings are: IMAP: operamail.com SMTP: operamail.com I haven't tested it with POP, but I think a good guess is POP: operamail.com ! Would it be an idea for the FAQ with a list of currently known SMTP-solutions for TB, Marck? Best regards, Jannik Lindquist The Bat! Ver. 1.49 Windows 98 4 10 A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Suggestions
Hi Co-Batties, Wednesday, January 10, 2001 TF So, kindly define "power user" for me to understand who you TF mean. People who don't use the mouse? I hope Vincent doesn't take the bait and answer that question on list. I really don't wish for one of those 'power users only use the keyboard' type arguments/discussions to start here. It's not the place for it. Take it to TBOT or off-line if you both, or anyone else desires to further such a discussion. Thanks. I did, sorry, couldn't resist. I don't want this kind of discussion too - maybe a PM would have done ... as far as I'm concerned: I'll stop it - no further replies to the "power user" thread ;-) Cheers, Vince -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Suggestions
Hi Co-Batties, Wednesday, January 10, 2001 VDE Deleting Messages = I find Ctrl+Del very VDE irritating - a simple Del is more logical and wrist VDE friendly (as it's used more often than deleting a VDE folder). I always simply press delete to delete messages. VDE ... and if you have to delete 260 messages in one step? You VDE certainly won't press del when you're on a folder ;-) I don't get it. How would TB know which 260 messages to delete if you won't tell it by cklicking on them? I usually park the two or three messages of interest and delete the rest of the folder (especially mailing list folders). VDE This might sound a little bit arrogant now, but anyway: I VDE don't know a single "power user" that uses a mouse more VDE than once a day ... thus these mouse arguments are quite VDE irrelevant for me. No it's not arrogant, just ignorant g. I hardly use keyboard shortcuts (with a few exceptions) and receive an avarage of 100-200 emails a day (not counting FirstClass Conferences). I addition, I spend hours every evening on the PC, what with studying software engineering for an MSc and all, and generally enjoy being on the computer more than in front of the TV. So, kindly define "power user" for me to understand who you mean. People who don't use the mouse? I define "power user" as people who don't want to waste time. There are several studies showing, that the use of the mouse is in general for newbies. The reason is quite obvious: If you're able to use all of your eight fingers and two thumbs on the keyboard there is no real need to grab the mouse, to move the pointer, to select the right menu, submenu and item and finally to click it. This takes in average - according to your abilities - round about a second. Over all you will be wasting almost 15 minutes a day "driving around". And what is even worse IMHO: If you're stuck - mouse is defect, icons disappear etc. - you don't know what to do to make your apps work like you're used to. This BTW is not a spleen of me, it's deriving from own experience as well as from teaching many people how to use apps effectively and - proud, proud - I never had a single complaint and even better: Many people who fell down on their knees and thanked for know knowing how to work more efficient *and* to save time ... the brutal truth ;-))) Cheers, Vince -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: SMTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jannik, On 10 January 2001 at 11:15:10 +0100 (which was 10:15 where I live) Jannik Lindquist wrote and made these points: JL IMAP: operamail.com JL SMTP: operamail.com JL I haven't tested it with POP, but I think a good guess is POP: JL operamail.com ! :-). JL Would it be an idea for the FAQ with a list of currently known JL SMTP-solutions for TB, Marck? Generally SMTP is a per-ISP/per-user issue. My SMTP is 192.168.4.20 (mail.silverstones.com, only visible internally on the LAN). I suppose we /could/ publish a list of common ISP host values on the FAQ but, IMHO, it's not really a TB issue. If anyone wants to convince me otherwise, please feel free to lambast me off-list. I will take the weight and quantity of pleas into account. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlxJeTnkJKuSnc2gEQJgDQCfQqQJanxTsZjY8EnO6Fy2yEP0UtcAoMjU u9nnGIaKm9Yxl/wc40wf+cjp =xYAB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: s/mime access violation
On Wednesday, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, you wrote: signing of msgs works fine, encryption doesn't work, all I get is: access violation at address 0050AB6A. Read of address I had that happen with one test but just now it did actually work. any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't matter), PGP not activated ...) Cycle TB and try it again :) There seems to still be some "holes" in the certificate support for S/MIME. I was able to import a cert from Netscape but TB refused to use it for signing. The same cert exported from IE and imported into TB DID work however. I suspect that the Netscape export doesn't include the private key which is what TB seems to demand. Not sure why though. Dave Martin Rexx Language Association Member www.rexxla.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help with regex
Hi... JA How about something like: JA %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%QINCLUDE=""special"";;%TEXT"%SUBPATT="2" Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)" part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string? Before asking on this list I looked the explanations of assertions and conditional regex, but I couldn't understand what they were trying to say in the help. Ah, and in Friedl's "Mastering regular expressions book" there is no mention of assertions. At least not under this name. UP My problem is how to activate the regex and extract only part of UP the message IF it comes from the FormMail, and how to make the UP quotes work normally when the message does NOT come from the UP FormMail - using one single message folder and same reply UP template for everything. I couldn't figure it out. JA Is there any string or address or something that uniquely JA identifies the FormMail messages or headers? If there are, then JA you could create a couple of Quick Templates, and based on the JA existence of the unique identifier, call the appropriate Quick JA Template. But I need more information before I get specific. Yes. The FormMail messages do always begin with "Below is the result of your feedback form." and have the field markers "Comment: " and "Submit". The other messages don't. UP Another thing I would like to know is how to eliminate empty UP lines completely in the quoted text... with the same regex UP hopefully...? JA That's beyond the capability of regexps. You want text editing JA capabilities. Regexps are used for retrieving information from text. JA There is a difference. No, not exactly. Maybe you want to say that regex inside TheBat can't do this, but otherwise they sure can. I am used to to this kind of regex in Perl all the time, for example something like $text =~ s/([\n|\r]){2,}/\n\r/g; will get rid off all extra newline characters in Perl (inside a DOS file). As TheBat translates the CR+LF to just LF, it should work with something as easy as $text =~ s/(\n){2,}/\n/g; to eliminate empty lines in the message body. Cheers, Ulrich -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: s/mime access violation
Hello Peter, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 1:22:57 AM, you wrote: PK any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't PK matter), PGP not activated ...) Were the certificates you are encrypting to properly exported with the ability of encryption enabled? -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** LAW OF PILL REJECTION - Any pill given to a cat has potential energy to reach escape velocity. Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: s/mime access violation
On Wednesday, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, you wrote: already done, no effect ... Didn't think it would but for reasons that aren't clear letting things "rest" overnight and restarting TB allowed it to work for me (at least for the one address I'm testing with). further question: do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN ? Nope. No such file anywhere on the drive with TB on it. I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by itself, maybe that's the reason for the access violation? Good thought that's for sure. I just tried another test to the address that gave me the access violation error yesterday and it was sent, encrypted and signed, without a problem. Dave Martin Rexx Language Association Member www.rexxla.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hello Andrey, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 6:49:12 AM, you wrote: Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:05:06 AM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I MA did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage MA operation" whatever that is. TF I never saw this error. Does anybody know what this means? According to Microsoft: SUMMARY When copying files from a diskette on a Windows NT computer, you may occasionally experience an "Error performing inpage operation". In this scenario, this error usually indicates physical problems on the diskette media, and is probably unrelated to paging operations involving the Windows NT paging file, despite the wording of the error message. MORE INFORMATION Copy utilities commonly use the CopyFile() Win32 API to copy files. For small files (where small is arbitrarily defined in the Windows NT source code as less than 256 kilobytes) the Windows NT CopyFile() API does not actually open the source file and read from it using the CreateFile() and ReadFile() APIs as might be expected. Instead, the CopyFile() API creates a File Mapping and maps the file into virtual memory. Data is then read from the file by simply accessing this memory. As the memory is accessed, the required portions of the file are paged into memory on demand. This leverages the paging functionality of the Windows NT Virtual Memory Manager, but introduces the jargon of Paging into this particular file copy scenario. Consequently, if I/O errors occur while processing a CopyFile() API for a "small" file, they will not be reported as File I/O Errors. Instead, as these errors are detected in what is effectively a paging operation (albeit unrelated to the Windows NT paging file), they will be reported as "Error performing inpage operation". Additionally, errors caused by network connectivity can cause these errors. Mismatched MTU sizes or truncation of a packet at a router can result in this error when files larger than the largest packet size are copied over the network. In essence, the network connection is the media that has the physical problem. URL is: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/1/17.asp -- Cheers, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant Systems Librarian --- Thought for the day: "[The library] is like a place of sacredness. If we were fools at one time, perhaps we will not be fools tomorrow, if we study." - Chief Tom Porter --- Using The Bat! 1.49 S/N 7EBC9CD5 under Windows NT Build 1381 (Service Pack 6) on a Pentium with 128MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Suggestions
Hallo Vincent, On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:07:46 +0100 GMT (10/01/2001, 19:07 +0800 GMT), Vincent - D. Ertner wrote: VDE ... and if you have to delete 260 messages in one step? You VDE certainly won't press del when you're on a folder ;-) I don't get it. How would TB know which 260 messages to delete if you won't tell it by cklicking on them? Vincent I usually park the two or three messages of interest and delete Vincent the rest of the folder (especially mailing list folders). I see. I never used it this way, but it does make sense. I was just looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it doesn't seem to exist. Why not set the time limit to 0 days? All messages you download and that are not parked, will be deleted when you close TB (if you have set "on exit") or when you hit Purge. Vincent I define "power user" as people I'll reply to this on TBOT (for those who don't know, it's The Bat User's Off-Topic List, to be subscribed to via [EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Cheers, Thomas. "H2O is hot water, because of the H, and CO2 is cold water." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On 10 January 2001 at 22:07:46 +0800 (which was 14:07 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points: TF I was just looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it TF doesn't seem to exist. Do you mean "select" all messages? That's Ctrl-A (with the focus in the message list). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA+AwUBOlyAmznkJKuSnc2gEQIx7QCfVy+Xo3lOkgmIKgLAOQwqRAf7iU8AmOTi lsyuxglUZ32Mr/BzXhtINCs= =qCrW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
s/mime access violation
Hello George, GFS Were the certificates you are encrypting to properly exported with the GFS ability of encryption enabled? yes, have checked that twice, the certificate does have the ability of public key encryption ... could you please have a look at your mail directory: do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN? I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by itself (it should as stated by the developers), maybe the access violation comes from here, either because it's not found or while trying to create it? Best regards, Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Suggestions
Hallo Marck, On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:32:43 + GMT (10/01/2001, 23:32 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TF I was just looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it TF doesn't seem to exist. Marck Do you mean "select" all messages? That's Ctrl-A (with the focus in Marck the message list). That's indeed what I meant (isn't there a clickable menu item for that? g). So, Vincent, here you go if you want to deleete all 260 messages except the ones you have parked: hit crtl-A hit del I hope your question has been answered satisfactorily. -- Cheers, Thomas. -I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
HTML Mail viewing solution for me anyway
Hello folks, Sorry about bringing up the question again that obviously has been beaten to death with a pointed stick ; And then came the no brainer solution - and I have to ask myself why the #@## didn't I think of it already. Someone suggested I just click on the HTML attachment to view it in my web browser. Well for some unknown, unexplainable reason, I seemed to have missed that point in my mail reading, so thank you, it solves the problem just fine for me. So those of you who need to read the HTML mail, just click on it and let your web browser do what it's made for!!! It solved the problem for me (now the only problem I have to solve is why I didn't think of it myself (duh!)) Thanks for all of the POLITE help, it was appreciated! -- Best regards, Kent - Kent Villardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebMaster http://www.ichef.com/ iChef.com - Your Source For Great Tasting Recipes - Visit Our New Sites: The Best Recipe Portal On The Net. http://Links4Recipes.com/ All Thanksgiving All The Time http://Recipes4Thanksgiving.com/ All Christmas All The Time http://Recipes4Christmas.com/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, Tuesday, January 09, 2001, you stated regarding Cookies: TF As for the cookie file, I don't understand your question. You define TF the cookie file, for example by using the macro: TF %Cookie="E:\stuff\cookies.txt" This is what I have at the bottom of my reply template and it works just fine: %cookie *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Douglas I don't use cookies on all accounts and obviously, the cookies are in the cookies template. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter question
Hello everybody, I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie. Thank you very much, -- Emmanuele -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hi Thomas, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 4:05:06 AM, you wrote: MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I MA did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage MA operation" whatever that is. I never saw this error. Does anybody know what this means? I finally found it on M$ Knowledgebase Q141117 seems to be an I/O read error, in other words my CD was corrupted As for the cookie file, I don't understand your question. You define the cookie file, for example by using the macro: %Cookie="E:\stuff\cookies.txt" You *can* define the cookie file or you can just paste cookies into the box under Account Properties, which is what I did. Karin was correct and the actual text is contained within the account.cfg file. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies (Was: Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)
Hi Andrey, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 6:46:24 AM, you wrote: MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I MA did a CD backup. Windows reports an "Error performing inpage MA operation" whatever that is. Try to restore this file from the probably faulty CD under MS-DOS (or so-called WinDOS) with ah appropriate support for your CD-ROM drive (driver file an mscdex.exe loaded). No proper DOS here as I'm using Win2k but I will try under Linux. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.49 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Restore bug?
Hello Tony, Monday, January 08, 2001, 7:29:04 PM, Tony Boom wrote: For now Michal, look in the archives. You'll find the answer to this question well documented. Thanx for advice but I'm not the lamer. And I know how do it safely and quickly. But there is an feature (RESTORE) which should be implemented on TB! installingstage.Maybeoption Backup/Restore/Synchronize was designed for already installed TB! but could be fine if this option be available as I said: just after installation TB!. Generally TB! has a lot of very useful options but not accessible every time are needed. And then some thinks we should to do manually by some tricks Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
-- On Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 11:12:08 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: AGSAA Personally I don't think you're going against the rules of this ML when AGSAA you're trying to discuss some topics like one you were raised. However AGSAA this particular topic have been discussed more than 10 times in my mind AGSAA with the same and the sad result: it ended up with the holy war and the AGSAA flame war :-(. Sad but true (C) RIT Labs. AGSAA There are several ways to stop this useless HTML-with-images talks AGSAA forever. Andrey - (and everyone else): Those of us who have joined the list relatively recently have no way of knowing which issues and topics have been discussed here before. In fact, because the volume of mail from this list is so high, I cannot possibly read all of the mail that comes in currently - so it would be easy to miss a topic. (I just filter the list into a folder in threaded form, read the posts under subject topics that look like they might interest me, and delete the rest). The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder to new users to check the FAQs before posting. The fact that a subject seems to be one that has been exhaustively debated in the past would indicate that it is something that should be included in the FAQs. -Abigail -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
net.ru003801c079c2$457fe5c0$0500a8c0@HOME[EMAIL PROTECTED] 005f01c079c9$27ba92e0$0500a8c0@HOME[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 010201c07a1d$22d68be0$0500a8c0@HOME [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: archive@jab.org List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Hi Abigail, . AM -- AM On Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 11:12:08 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: AM The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated AM distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder to new AM users to check the FAQs before posting. The fact that a subject seems AM to be one that has been exhaustively debated in the past would AM indicate that it is something that should be included in the FAQs. What about a 'real' help file that would come with the software? AM -Abigail . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2000 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Message Header - Mailer
Hi, am I correct in believing that if no "Mailer" (or X-Mailer) info is available for received messages, that this is due to the originating mail server setup? I've been through the List Archive, and this is the closest I have come to figuring out why some of my email will not yield this information. Cheers, Thursday, 11 January 2001 13:08 ~~ Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 1.49 on Win98 ~~ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Abigail, On 10 January 2001 at 14:06:55 -0800 (which was 22:06 where I live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points: AM Those of us who have joined the list relatively recently have no AM way of knowing which issues and topics have been discussed here AM before. snip AM The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated AM distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder AM to new users to check the FAQs before posting. There is a searchable list archive. The address is distributed to the list at the foot of every message. The welcome message contains a link to the FAQ. Although this issue is a recurrent bette-noire, RIT labs have promised to offer support of this much requested feature in V2. Perhaps I should add a section to the FAQ about why TB (v1) doesn't show out-of-line images and why it's a "good thing" that it is so. AM The fact that a subject seems to be one that has been AM exhaustively debated in the past would indicate that it is AM something that should be included in the FAQs. Agreed. I may get time to add something about in very soon. My current workload has meant that I have not been available to do very much about it recently. Bear in mind, also, that this list and the FAQ are a *user* resource - maintained by volunteers. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49b S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOl0DoTnkJKuSnc2gEQKyewCdEVU2qQK5RkT0NVlDnSqIUXu9DlIAoPr0 q+JlqexIR20HEyH4eDdyvD77 =t9uK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT question about PGP
I've been trying today to do a little reading about PGP. I have never used PGP and am completely unfamiliar with it. 2 questions: 1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the sender and the receiver need to be using PGP? 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory material on PGP? TIA _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT question about PGP
Hello Dave, (DG == "Dave Gorman") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG 1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the DG sender and the receiver need to be using PGP? Yes. Unless you're using SDA's (Self Decrypting Archives) or one of the participants is using GnuPG (GNU Privacy Guard) (I think the two work fine together). DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory DG material on PGP? PGP-Basics is a good start. Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.egroups.com/messages/PGP-Basics List Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics Members Chat: http://www.egroups.com/chat/PGP-Basics DG TIA -- ... Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 ... TB! 1.49b, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: OT question about PGP
Thanks for the info Brian. I've already subscribed! Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:18:07 PM, you wrote: BC Hello Dave, BC (DG == "Dave Gorman") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG 1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the DG sender and the receiver need to be using PGP? BC Yes. Unless you're using SDA's (Self Decrypting Archives) or one of BC the participants is using GnuPG (GNU Privacy Guard) (I think the two BC work fine together). DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory DG material on PGP? BC PGP-Basics is a good start. BC Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BC Archives: http://www.egroups.com/messages/PGP-Basics BC List Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BC List Homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics BC Members Chat: http://www.egroups.com/chat/PGP-Basics DG TIA BC -- BC ... BC Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-KeyID: 0xE4D0C7C8 BC Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer Tel: 864.227.0750 BC http://www.fusionwerks.com/ Fax: 864.942.7249 BC ... BC TB! 1.49b, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A -- Best regards, Davemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT question about PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Dave, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 4:59:19 PM, you wrote: DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory DG material on PGP? Try http://mccune.cc/PGP.htm , He has many links and a lot of info. - -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** What if there were no hypothetical questions? Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Use PGP to protect your rights and authenticity Comment: KeyID: 0x360563A92F592AB1 Comment: Fingerprint: 84EE 29D7 0B3F 04F5 848A 2746 DD6F 60C5 iQEVAwUBOl0SNDYFY6kvWSqxAQHsFQf+P5P4OswYNB8mvfi3C2c0mD4UO3Q+pnva hwz0Dws8A2iyO7X+L2AiiRM2ISj3Du0RxvIrfTa2EYyaMxVul+DeYbe6LbfoqHKY MD5EXYPJdGYHnZxL+8oGXiU3mfllfzxJWHAiULsijyJ07yXJYFQJx+1ewvTEtI0a Z+ZoNSL+MQI/QaOXPMTgxe0kHmcovavj7dkKn/zlKwZZfo35oApNxx4TpI0QZoyK ysNlrdig5SNF8O3U6V2L4Y8weXWkxGb+cbVwW7WnYeBDodRmH66rfB/e/UupeUX7 UWDZemuz99gp2MeZGg/JEa/hOQ5esl9s+rNlHf+ndofbMPb+MM4bDQ== =emc9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: s/mime access violation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Peter, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 8:02:33 AM, you wrote: PK do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN? PK I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by PK itself (it should as stated by the developers), maybe the access PK violation comes from here, either because it's not found or while PK trying to create it? I do not have that file, but I never have tried using s/mime to encrypt before either. I just got s/mime signing figured out the other day and I don't hold anyone else's s/mime keys in order to try encryption. - -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** A waist is a terrible thing to mind. Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Use PGP to protect your rights and authenticity Comment: KeyID: 0x360563A92F592AB1 Comment: Fingerprint: 84EE 29D7 0B3F 04F5 848A 2746 DD6F 60C5 iQEVAwUBOl0VIjYFY6kvWSqxAQE63QgAycwwau+NcqnmuOJUXP+81YHodz0HrIft z4Ib8tSxE/fjWnrXrOcGbznuVbRuzfw12RkdPE+VMv1ZWjpfEVFYi3uWpHq9DPEL HRZTEz0Y5ls3JmGWbNcNTMxouC9LpLF+Air45CmvioN4IVHobJhCb2Y2QoQvO13S d/gMsygxt0yWKFM2MQovfoZaz5JLGZhbRarUl/adPpLNbu1HOXQugbP4XgP7UOqA NQ1YSczBDAnU1PNjFbn9+bTRM/5ZOzrRHoY0M31Dr6QNE/SpjLxRT887Q4yX4LXg eGhWyNny/tnLahUZSN4SqrcjN1sZVA3Z2UNXGVO1MZ3DiPdvxoRM7A== =lu4y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Andrey others on TBUDL following this thread, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, you stated regarding moving folder locations: AGSAA Sounds like that the whole thread could be squeezed to one sentence: RIT AGSAA Labs, please (please!) provide the adequate documentation on this AGSAA subject! It probably is there, but I've come to rely on TBUDL and this time the results were not optimum. The solution is there, IAC. All I need to do is which folders have the same names (in different places - nothing was totally eliminated, although some were recovered from the recycle bin), and try out different combinations of the files that have to be there in a dummy account, moving ALL the messages that turn up from all combinations to yet another new folder, and then killing dupes. Simple. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: s/mime access violation
Hello! Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:02:33 PM, Peter Kaleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PK do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN? No. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter question
Hello! Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 10:58:55 PM, Emmanuele Vigni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EV I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to EV configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures EV from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it EV and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie. So does the messages to be processed by that filter contains *only* the e-mail addresses you want to extract or there are some additional (and unwanted) text in them? -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help with regex
Hello! Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 3:56:35 PM, Ulrich Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JA How about something like: JA %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%QINCLUDE=""special"";;%TEXT"%SUBPATT="2" UP Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)" UP part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string? HTH: http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/Administration/RegExp/ -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message Header - Mailer
Hello! Thursday, January 11, 2001, 3:12:11 AM, Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B am I correct in believing that if no "Mailer" (or X-Mailer) info is B available for received messages, that this is due to the originating B mail server setup? Not in all cases, AFAIK. Someone can install a so-called local SMTP proxy which is capable to strip specific headers from the outgoing messages. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help with regex
Hello Ulrich, UP = Ulrich Peters On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 at 10:56:35 GMT -0200 (which was 4:56 AM where I live) witnesses say Ulrich Peters typed: UP Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)" UP part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string? There is were a series of posts by Marck and myself about this very pattern on November 30, 2000 on TBBETA. Here is a link to the message in the TBBETA archives. http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg08137.html UP Yes. The FormMail messages do always begin with "Below is the result UP of your feedback form." and have the field markers "Comment: " and UP "Submit". The other messages don't. Ok, so create two Quick Templates, one for regular quotes, and one for FormMail Quotes, and fill them in with the appropriate quotes and quotestyle macros. Give the regular quotes one a name like: "quotes-" and the other one "quotes-feedback" To choose between them, use a simple regular expression such as: %QINCLUDE='quotes-%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)^Below.is.the.result.of.your.(feedback).form.$"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"%SUBPATT="1"' So if the regexp doesn't find the line "Below...", the subpattern will be empty and the "quotes-" quick template is inserted. If the regexp is matched, the subpattern will be filled in, and the "quotes-feedback" quick template is used. Of course you can customize the quick templates to your heart's content. It is the names that are important. snip -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter question
Ciao Andrey, Thursday, January 11, 2001, 6:53:27 AM, hai scritto: AGSAA Hello! AGSAA Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 10:58:55 PM, Emmanuele Vigni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EV I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to EV configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures EV from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it EV and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie. AGSAA So does the messages to be processed by that filter contains *only* the AGSAA e-mail addresses you want to extract or there are some additional (and AGSAA unwanted) text in them? There is also unwanted text in them, but only one email to capture.. -- Emmanuele Vigni - System/Network Administrator Phenix by Tecno Net S.r.l. gruppo Grenzor S.p.a. via Roma 33 - 31033 Castelfranco Veneto (TV) Tel. 0423 498446 - Fax. 0423 491464 Happy Slackware user! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org