s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Kaleve

Hi,

evaluting S/MIME functions got the following problem:

signing of msgs works fine, encryption doesn't work,
all I get is:

access violation at address 0050AB6A. Read of address 

any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't
matter), PGP not activated ...)

/pk


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SMTP

2001-01-10 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello TBUDL,

Just for the record: I just found out that Operamail works very neatly
with TB (IMAP, SMTP by login). Perhaps I am the only one that didn't
know - but, apparently, there is no information on this, whatsoever,
in Operamail's own help-file.

The settings are:

IMAP: operamail.com

SMTP: operamail.com

I haven't tested it with POP, but I think a good guess is POP:
operamail.com !

Would it be an idea for the FAQ with a list of currently known
SMTP-solutions for TB, Marck?



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Re[2]: Suggestions

2001-01-10 Thread Vincent - D. Ertner

Hi Co-Batties,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001

TF So, kindly define "power user" for me to understand who you
TF mean. People who don't use the mouse?

 I hope Vincent doesn't take the bait and answer that question
 on list. I really don't wish for one of those 'power users only
 use the keyboard' type arguments/discussions to start here.
 It's not the place for it. Take it to TBOT or off-line if you
 both, or anyone else desires to further such a discussion.
 Thanks.

I did, sorry, couldn't resist. I don't want this kind of
discussion too - maybe a PM would have done ... as far as I'm
concerned: I'll stop it - no further replies to the "power user"
thread ;-)

Cheers,

Vince

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Re[2]: Suggestions

2001-01-10 Thread Vincent - D. Ertner

Hi Co-Batties,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001

VDE Deleting Messages = I find Ctrl+Del very
VDE irritating - a simple Del is more logical and wrist
VDE friendly (as it's used more often than deleting a
VDE folder).

 I always simply press delete to delete messages.

VDE ... and if you have to delete 260 messages in one step? You
VDE certainly won't press del when you're on a folder ;-)

 I don't get it. How would TB know which 260 messages to delete if you
 won't tell it by cklicking on them?

I usually park the two or three messages of interest and delete
the rest of the folder (especially mailing list folders).

VDE This might sound a little bit arrogant now, but anyway: I
VDE don't know a single "power user" that uses a mouse more
VDE than once a day ... thus these mouse arguments are quite
VDE irrelevant for me.

 No it's not arrogant, just ignorant g. I hardly use keyboard
 shortcuts (with a few exceptions) and receive an avarage of
 100-200 emails a day (not counting FirstClass Conferences). I
 addition, I spend hours every evening on the PC, what with
 studying software engineering for an MSc and all, and generally
 enjoy being on the computer more than in front of the TV.

 So, kindly define "power user" for me to understand who you
 mean. People who don't use the mouse?

I define "power user" as people who don't want to waste time.
There are several studies showing, that the use of the mouse is
in general for newbies. The reason is quite obvious: If you're
able to use all of your eight fingers and two thumbs on the
keyboard there is no real need to grab the mouse, to move the
pointer, to select the right menu, submenu and item and finally
to click it. This takes in average - according to your
abilities - round about a second. Over all you will be wasting
almost 15 minutes a day "driving around". And what is even worse
IMHO: If you're stuck - mouse is defect, icons disappear etc. -
you don't know what to do to make your apps work like you're used
to.

This BTW is not a spleen of me, it's deriving from own experience
as well as from teaching many people how to use apps effectively
and - proud, proud - I never had a single complaint and even
better: Many people who fell down on their knees and thanked for
know knowing how to work more efficient *and* to save time ...
the brutal truth ;-)))

Cheers,

Vince

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Re: SMTP

2001-01-10 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jannik,

On 10 January 2001 at 11:15:10 +0100 (which was 10:15 where I
live) Jannik Lindquist wrote and made these points:

JL IMAP: operamail.com
JL SMTP: operamail.com

JL I haven't tested it with POP, but I think a good guess is POP:
JL operamail.com !

:-).

JL Would it be an idea for the FAQ with a list of currently known
JL SMTP-solutions for TB, Marck?

Generally  SMTP is a per-ISP/per-user issue. My SMTP is 192.168.4.20
(mail.silverstones.com,  only  visible  internally  on  the  LAN). I
suppose  we  /could/ publish a list of common ISP host values on the
FAQ  but,  IMHO,  it's  not  really  a  TB issue. If anyone wants to
convince  me  otherwise,  please feel free to lambast me off-list. I
will take the weight and quantity of pleas into account.

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Re: s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread Dave Martin

On Wednesday, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, you wrote:

 signing of msgs works fine, encryption doesn't work,
 all I get is:

 access violation at address 0050AB6A. Read of address 

I had that happen with one test but just now it did actually work.

 any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't
 matter), PGP not activated ...)

Cycle TB and try it again :)

There seems to still be some "holes" in the certificate support for
S/MIME.  I was able to import a cert from Netscape but TB refused to
use it for signing.  The same cert exported from IE and imported into
TB DID work however.  I suspect that the Netscape export doesn't
include the private key which is what TB seems to demand.  Not sure
why though.

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Re: Help with regex

2001-01-10 Thread Ulrich Peters

Hi...

JA How about something like:
JA 
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%QINCLUDE=""special"";;%TEXT"%SUBPATT="2"

Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"
part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string?

Before asking on this list I looked the explanations of assertions and
conditional regex, but I couldn't understand what they were trying to
say in the help. Ah, and in Friedl's "Mastering regular expressions
book" there is no mention of assertions. At least not under this name.


UP My problem is how to activate the regex and extract only part of
UP the message IF it comes from the FormMail, and how to make the
UP quotes work normally when the message does NOT come from the
UP FormMail - using one single message folder and same reply
UP template for everything. I couldn't figure it out.

JA Is there any string or address or something that uniquely
JA identifies the FormMail messages or headers?  If there are, then
JA you could create a couple of Quick Templates, and based on the
JA existence of the unique identifier, call the appropriate Quick
JA Template.  But I need more information before I get specific.

Yes. The FormMail messages do always begin with "Below is the result
of your feedback form." and have the field markers "Comment: " and
"Submit". The other messages don't.

UP Another thing I would like to know is how to eliminate empty
UP lines completely in the quoted text... with the same regex
UP hopefully...?

JA That's beyond the capability of regexps.  You want text editing
JA capabilities.  Regexps are used for retrieving information from text.
JA There is a difference.

No, not exactly. Maybe you want to say that regex inside TheBat
can't do this, but otherwise they sure can. I am used to to this kind
of regex in Perl all the time, for example something like

$text =~ s/([\n|\r]){2,}/\n\r/g;

will get rid off all extra newline characters in Perl (inside a DOS
file). As TheBat translates the CR+LF to just LF, it should work with
something as easy as

$text =~ s/(\n){2,}/\n/g;

to eliminate empty lines in the message body.

Cheers,
   Ulrich

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Re: s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread George F Schoelles

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 1:22:57 AM, you wrote:

PK any hints? (all certs present, S/MIME activated (switches don't
PK matter), PGP not activated ...)


Were the certificates you are encrypting to properly exported with the
ability of encryption enabled?

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Re: s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread Dave Martin

On Wednesday, Wednesday, January 10, 2001, you wrote:

 already done, no effect ...

Didn't think it would but for reasons that aren't clear letting things
"rest" overnight and restarting TB allowed it to work for me (at least
for the one address I'm testing with).

 further question: do you have a file present in your mail directory
 called SMIMERND.BIN ?

Nope.  No such file anywhere on the drive with TB on it.

 I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by
 itself, maybe that's the reason for the access violation?

Good thought that's for sure.  I just tried another test to the
address that gave me the access violation error yesterday and it was
sent, encrypted and signed, without a problem.

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Re[2]: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)

2001-01-10 Thread David Bevington

Hello Andrey,


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 6:49:12 AM, you wrote:

 Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:05:06 AM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I
MA did  a  CD  backup.  Windows  reports  an  "Error  performing  inpage
MA operation" whatever that is.

TF I never saw this error. Does anybody know what this means?

According to Microsoft:

 SUMMARY
 When copying files from a diskette on a Windows NT computer, you may
 occasionally experience an "Error performing inpage operation".

 In this scenario, this error usually indicates physical problems on
 the diskette media, and is probably unrelated to paging operations
 involving the Windows NT paging file, despite the wording of the
 error message.

 MORE INFORMATION
 Copy utilities commonly use the CopyFile() Win32 API to copy files.

 For small files (where small is arbitrarily defined in the Windows
 NT source code as less than 256 kilobytes) the Windows NT CopyFile()
 API does not actually open the source file and read from it using
 the CreateFile() and ReadFile() APIs as might be expected.

 Instead, the CopyFile() API creates a File Mapping and maps the file
 into virtual memory. Data is then read from the file by simply
 accessing this memory. As the memory is accessed, the required
 portions of the file are paged into memory on demand. This leverages
 the paging functionality of the Windows NT Virtual Memory Manager,
 but introduces the jargon of Paging into this particular file copy
 scenario.

 Consequently, if I/O errors occur while processing a CopyFile() API
 for a "small" file, they will not be reported as File I/O Errors.
 Instead, as these errors are detected in what is effectively a
 paging operation (albeit unrelated to the Windows NT paging file),
 they will be reported as "Error performing inpage operation".

 Additionally, errors caused by network connectivity can cause these
 errors. Mismatched MTU sizes or truncation of a packet at a router
 can result in this error when files larger than the largest packet
 size are copied over the network. In essence, the network connection
 is the media that has the physical problem.

URL is: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/1/17.asp



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Re: Suggestions

2001-01-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Vincent,

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:07:46 +0100 GMT (10/01/2001, 19:07 +0800 GMT),
Vincent - D. Ertner wrote:

VDE ... and if you have to delete 260 messages in one step? You
VDE certainly won't press del when you're on a folder ;-)

 I don't get it. How would TB know which 260 messages to delete if you
 won't tell it by cklicking on them?

Vincent I usually park the two or three messages of interest and delete
Vincent the rest of the folder (especially mailing list folders).

I see. I never used it this way, but it does make sense. I was just
looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it doesn't seem to
exist.

Why not set the time limit to 0 days? All messages you download and
that are not parked, will be deleted when you close TB (if you have
set "on exit") or when you hit Purge.

Vincent I define "power user" as people

I'll reply to this on TBOT (for those who don't know, it's The Bat
User's Off-Topic List, to be subscribed to via
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Re: Suggestions

2001-01-10 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Thomas,

On 10 January 2001 at 22:07:46 +0800 (which was 14:07 where I
live) Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points:

TF I was just looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it
TF doesn't seem to exist.

Do  you mean "select" all messages? That's Ctrl-A (with the focus in
the message list).

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s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Kaleve

Hello George,

GFS Were the certificates you are encrypting to properly exported with the
GFS ability of encryption enabled?

yes, have checked that twice, the certificate does have the ability of
public key encryption ...

could you please have a look at your mail directory:

do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN?

I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by
itself (it should as stated by the developers), maybe the access
violation comes from here, either because it's not found or while
trying to create it?


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Re: Suggestions

2001-01-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Marck,

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:32:43 + GMT (10/01/2001, 23:32 +0800 GMT),
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

TF I was just looking for a menu item "mark all messages" but it
TF doesn't seem to exist.

Marck Do  you mean "select" all messages? That's Ctrl-A (with the focus in
Marck the message list).

That's indeed what I meant (isn't there a clickable menu item for
that? g).

So, Vincent, here you go if you want to deleete all 260 messages
except the ones you have parked:

hit crtl-A
hit del

I hope your question  has been answered satisfactorily.

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HTML Mail viewing solution for me anyway

2001-01-10 Thread Kent Villard (iChef)

Hello folks,

Sorry about bringing up the question again that obviously has been
beaten to death with a pointed stick ;

And then came the no brainer solution - and I have to ask myself why
the #@## didn't I think of it already.

Someone suggested I just click on the HTML attachment to view it in my
web browser. Well for some unknown, unexplainable reason, I seemed to
have missed that point in my mail reading, so thank you, it solves the
problem just fine for me.

So those of you who need to read the HTML mail, just click on it and
let your web browser do what it's made for!!! It solved the problem
for me (now the only problem I have to solve is why I didn't think of
it myself (duh!))

Thanks for all of the POLITE help, it was appreciated!

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Re: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)

2001-01-10 Thread Douglas Hinds



Hello Thomas  others on TBUDL following this thread,

Tuesday, January 09, 2001,  you stated regarding Cookies:

TF As for the cookie file, I don't understand your question. You define
TF the cookie file, for example by using the macro:

TF %Cookie="E:\stuff\cookies.txt"

This is what I have at the bottom of my reply template and it works
just fine:


%cookie

 ***  REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

Douglas

I don't use cookies on all accounts and obviously, the cookies are
in the cookies template.

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Filter question

2001-01-10 Thread Emmanuele Vigni

Hello everybody,

I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to
configure The Bat! in order to
make a canned reply that captures from the body of a received message
ONLY the e-mail inserted in it and send it as a new message to another
address that I specifie.
Thank you very much,

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Re: Cookies (was:Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)

2001-01-10 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Thomas,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 4:05:06 AM, you wrote:

MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I
MA did  a  CD  backup.  Windows  reports  an  "Error  performing  inpage
MA operation" whatever that is.

 I never saw this error. Does anybody know what this means?

I finally found it on M$ Knowledgebase Q141117 seems to be an I/O read
error, in other words my CD was corrupted

 As for the cookie file, I don't understand your question. You define
 the cookie file, for example by using the macro:

 %Cookie="E:\stuff\cookies.txt"

You  *can*  define  the cookie file or you can just paste cookies into
the  box  under  Account  Properties,  which  is what I did. Karin was
correct and the actual text is contained within the account.cfg file.

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Re: Cookies (Was: Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting)

2001-01-10 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Andrey,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 6:46:24 AM, you wrote:

MA Thanks, unfortunately that was the one file which got corrupted when I
MA did  a  CD  backup.  Windows  reports  an  "Error  performing  inpage
MA operation" whatever that is.

 Try to restore this file from the probably faulty CD under MS-DOS (or
 so-called WinDOS) with ah appropriate support for your CD-ROM drive
 (driver file an mscdex.exe loaded).

No proper DOS here as I'm using Win2k  but I will try under Linux.


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Re: Restore bug?

2001-01-10 Thread Michal Kozusznik

Hello Tony,

Monday, January 08, 2001, 7:29:04 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

   For now Michal, look in the archives. You'll find the answer to this
   question well documented.

Thanx  for  advice  but I'm not the lamer. And I know how do it safely
and  quickly.  But  there  is  an  feature  (RESTORE)  which should be
implemented on TB! installingstage.Maybeoption
Backup/Restore/Synchronize  was designed for already installed TB! but
could  be  fine  if  this  option  be  available as I said: just after
installation TB!.

Generally  TB!  has  a  lot  of very useful options but not accessible
every  time  are needed. And then some thinks we should to do manually
by some tricks

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Re[2]: HTML Mail viewing (images)

2001-01-10 Thread Abigail Marshall

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On Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 11:12:08 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

AGSAA Personally I don't think you're going against the rules of this ML when
AGSAA you're trying to discuss some topics like one you were raised. However
AGSAA this particular topic have been discussed more than 10 times in my mind
AGSAA with the same and the sad result: it ended up with the holy war and the
AGSAA flame war :-(. Sad but true (C) RIT Labs.

AGSAA There are several ways to stop this useless HTML-with-images talks
AGSAA forever.

Andrey - (and everyone else):
Those of us who have joined the list relatively recently have no way
of knowing which issues and topics have been discussed here before. In
fact, because the volume of mail from this list is so high, I cannot
possibly read all of the mail that comes in currently - so it would be
easy to miss a topic. (I just filter the list into a folder in
threaded form, read the posts under subject topics that look like they
might interest me, and delete the rest).

The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated
distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder to new
users to check the FAQs before posting.  The fact that a subject seems
to be one that has been exhaustively debated in the past would
indicate that it is something that should be included in the FAQs.

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Re[3]: HTML Mail viewing (images)

2001-01-10 Thread syv

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AM --
AM On Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 11:12:08 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:


AM The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated
AM distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder to new
AM users to check the FAQs before posting.  The fact that a subject seems
AM to be one that has been exhaustively debated in the past would
AM indicate that it is something that should be included in the FAQs.

What about a 'real' help file that would come with the
software?


AM -Abigail




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Message Header - Mailer

2001-01-10 Thread Britta

Hi,

am I correct in believing that if no "Mailer" (or X-Mailer) info is
available for received messages, that this is due to the originating
mail server setup? I've been through the List Archive, and this is the
closest I have come to figuring out why some of my email will not
yield this information.

Cheers,
 
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Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)

2001-01-10 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Abigail,

On 10 January 2001 at 14:06:55 -0800 (which was 22:06 where I
live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points:

AM Those of us who have joined the list relatively recently have no
AM way of knowing which issues and topics have been discussed here
AM before.

snip

AM The ONLY answer is a good online FAQ, combined with automated
AM distribution to the list of the links to the FAQ, as a reminder
AM to new users to check the FAQs before posting.

There  is  a  searchable list archive. The address is distributed to
the  list at the foot of every message. The welcome message contains
a link to the FAQ.

Although  this  issue  is  a  recurrent  bette-noire,  RIT labs have
promised  to  offer  support  of  this much requested feature in V2.
Perhaps  I should add a section to the FAQ about why TB (v1) doesn't
show out-of-line images and why it's a "good thing" that it is so.

AM The fact that a subject seems to be one that has been
AM exhaustively debated in the past would indicate that it is
AM something that should be included in the FAQs.

Agreed.  I  may  get  time  to  add something about in very soon. My
current workload has meant that I have not been available to do very
much  about  it recently. Bear in mind, also, that this list and the
FAQ are a *user* resource - maintained by volunteers.

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OT question about PGP

2001-01-10 Thread Dave Gorman

I've been trying today to do a little reading about PGP.  I have never
used PGP and am completely unfamiliar with it.

2 questions:

1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the sender
and the receiver need to be using PGP?

2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory
material on PGP?

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Re: OT question about PGP

2001-01-10 Thread Brian Clark


Hello Dave, 

(DG == "Dave Gorman") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DG 1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the
DG sender and the receiver need to be using PGP?

Yes. Unless you're using SDA's (Self Decrypting Archives) or one of
the participants is using GnuPG (GNU Privacy Guard) (I think the two
work fine together).

DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory
DG material on PGP?

PGP-Basics is a good start.

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Re[2]: OT question about PGP

2001-01-10 Thread Dave Gorman

Thanks for the info Brian.  I've already subscribed!


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:18:07 PM, you wrote:


BC Hello Dave, 

BC (DG == "Dave Gorman") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DG 1) Do I understand correctly that for email encryption both the
DG sender and the receiver need to be using PGP?

BC Yes. Unless you're using SDA's (Self Decrypting Archives) or one of
BC the participants is using GnuPG (GNU Privacy Guard) (I think the two
BC work fine together).

DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory
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Re: OT question about PGP

2001-01-10 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Dave,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 4:59:19 PM, you wrote:

DG 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for very basic introductory
DG material on PGP?

Try http://mccune.cc/PGP.htm , He has many links and a lot of info.

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Re: s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Peter,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 8:02:33 AM, you wrote:

PK do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN?

PK I'm missing this random seed file, The Bat! doesn't create it by
PK itself (it should as stated by the developers), maybe the access
PK violation comes from here, either because it's not found or while
PK trying to create it?


I  do  not  have  that  file,  but  I never have tried using s/mime to
encrypt before either. I just got s/mime signing figured out the other
day  and  I  don't  hold  anyone  else's  s/mime  keys in order to try
encryption.

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Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting

2001-01-10 Thread Douglas Hinds



Hello Andrey  others on TBUDL following this thread,

Wednesday, January 10, 2001,  you stated regarding moving folder
locations:

AGSAA Sounds like that the whole thread could be squeezed to one sentence: RIT
AGSAA Labs, please (please!) provide the adequate documentation on this
AGSAA subject!

It probably is there, but I've come to rely on TBUDL and this time
the results were not optimum. The solution is there, IAC.

All I need to do is which folders have the same names (in different
places - nothing was totally eliminated, although some were
recovered from the recycle bin), and try out different combinations
of the files that have to be there in a dummy account, moving ALL the
messages that turn up from all combinations to yet another new
folder, and then killing dupes. Simple.

Douglas

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Re: s/mime access violation

2001-01-10 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 7:02:33 PM, Peter Kaleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PK do you have a file present in your mail directory called SMIMERND.BIN?

No.


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Re: Filter question

2001-01-10 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 10:58:55 PM, Emmanuele Vigni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

EV I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to
EV configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures
EV from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it
EV and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie.

So does the messages to be processed by that filter contains *only* the
e-mail addresses you want to extract or there are some additional (and
unwanted) text in them?


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Re: Help with regex

2001-01-10 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 3:56:35 PM, Ulrich Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

JA How about something like:
JA 
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%QINCLUDE=""special"";;%TEXT"%SUBPATT="2"

UP Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"
UP part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string?

HTH: http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/Administration/RegExp/


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Re: Message Header - Mailer

2001-01-10 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)

Hello!


Thursday, January 11, 2001, 3:12:11 AM, Britta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

B am I correct in believing that if no "Mailer" (or X-Mailer) info is
B available for received messages, that this is due to the originating
B mail server setup?

Not in all cases, AFAIK. Someone can install a so-called local SMTP
proxy which is capable to strip specific headers from the outgoing
messages.


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Re: Help with regex

2001-01-10 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Ulrich,

UP = Ulrich Peters 

On  Wed, 10 Jan 2001  at  10:56:35 GMT -0200 (which was 4:56 AM where
I live) witnesses say Ulrich Peters typed:

UP Ok. I didn't understand the meaning of the "(?(?=;;);;(.*)|(.*);;)"
UP part, could you tell me where I can find an analysis of this string?

There is were a series of posts by Marck and myself about this very
pattern on November 30, 2000 on TBBETA.  Here is a link to the message
in the TBBETA archives.

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg08137.html

UP Yes. The FormMail messages do always begin with "Below is the result
UP of your feedback form." and have the field markers "Comment: " and
UP "Submit". The other messages don't.

Ok, so create two Quick Templates, one for regular quotes, and one for
FormMail Quotes, and fill them in with the appropriate quotes and
quotestyle macros.  Give the regular quotes one a name like: "quotes-"
and the other one "quotes-feedback"

To choose between them, use a simple regular expression such as:

%QINCLUDE='quotes-%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)^Below.is.the.result.of.your.(feedback).form.$"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"%SUBPATT="1"'

So if the regexp doesn't find the line "Below...", the subpattern will
be empty and the "quotes-" quick template is inserted.  If the
regexp is matched, the subpattern will be filled in, and the
"quotes-feedback" quick template is used.  Of course you can customize
the quick templates to your heart's content.  It is the names that are
important.

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Re[2]: Filter question

2001-01-10 Thread Emmanuele Vigni

Ciao Andrey,

Thursday, January 11, 2001, 6:53:27 AM, hai scritto:

AGSAA Hello!


AGSAA Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 10:58:55 PM, Emmanuele Vigni 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

EV I am new. I'd like to know if is it possible, and if yes how, to
EV configure The Bat! in order to make a canned reply that captures
EV from the body of a received message ONLY the e-mail inserted in it
EV and send it as a new message to another address that I specifie.

AGSAA So does the messages to be processed by that filter contains *only* the
AGSAA e-mail addresses you want to extract or there are some additional (and
AGSAA unwanted) text in them?


There is also unwanted text in them, but only one email to capture..


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