free decent virus checker that works with TB?

[Rick Reumann]

Is there a pretty good virus checker that will work with the Bat that
will only operate by checking attachments? If a free is available that
would be great. Maybe I'm just gambling with time, but since I really
only open attachments that I know for a fact I am supposed to receive
(plus I use The Bat:), I've remained clean so far.
My biggest gripe with the virus scanners is they always seem to hog up
major resources and end up conflicting with something. (I actually
disable mine at work).
If I had a virus checker that would only kick into action when it saw
an attachment, and worked with well with the Bat, I'd be interested.
Thanks

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Re: free decent virus checker that works with TB?

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Rick Reumann,

On Sunday, February 10 2002 at 04:17 PM PDT, you wrote:

> If I had a virus checker that would only kick into action when it saw
> an attachment, and worked with well with the Bat, I'd be interested.

This Program isn't free... it's not expensive either... is probably the
best I've run into and is remarkably easy on System Resources:

http://www.nod32.com


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Re[2]: free decent virus checker that works with TB?

[Shoebuddy Jones]

Monday, February 11, 2002 at 2:10 AM


 Following the directions located here
 http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/fprot_e.htm, it
 might be possible to have The Bat! launch Norton
 to scan the directory for viruses.  Does Norton have a
 command line to scan a directory?  If not, map a
 directory to a drive letter.

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Re[2]: free decent virus checker that works with TB?

[Eric Malausséna]

Hi Raj,

KAV 4 Personal Pro :
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/release/4.0/English/HomeUser/KAVPersonalPro/kavperspro40eng.exe

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Re: Mail bag assistant

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Shoebuddy,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:58:40 -0500GMT (11-2-2002, 0:58 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

SJ>  The Bat! handles all this email just fine--but I would
SJ>  like to back it all up as eml files.

Export them as *.msg, that's the same format. Afterwards you can
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Re: free decent virus checker that works with TB?

[Raj]

Rick,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 19:17:29 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:47 AM where I live) you
wrote:

RR> If I had a virus checker that would only kick into action when it saw
RR> an attachment, and worked with well with the Bat, I'd be interested.
RR> Thanks

Have you checked out http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/fprot_e.htm

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Re[3]: template that will reply with correct mail account?

[Raj]

Rick,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 23:26:41 [GMT -0500] (which was 9:56 AM where I live) you
wrote:

RR> Say for example I filter(move) a message from one inbox
RR>into the inbox of another account. I would like a template set up
RR>so when I reply to this message it will send out from the ORIGINAL
RR>inbox it was sent to, not from the inbox that the mail was filtered

One quick fix way is to have a QT which has the same contents as the template in
the original folder.

Then  when  you reply to the mail from the second account type the handle of the
QT and press Ctrl+Space Bar.

ps :ensure that the QT is shared with other accounts

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Re[2]: template that will reply with correct mail account?

[Rick Reumann]

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, 8:36:57 PM, Raj wrote:

R> I  feel the scope of your question is too big  to address in an
R> e-mail

R> And then get back with specific questions


   Thanks Raj for the reference and your examples are pretty good on
   that page. However, I don't really see any example doing what I
   would like. Say for example I filter(move) a message from one inbox
   into the inbox of another account. I would like a template set up
   so when I reply to this message it will send out from the ORIGINAL
   inbox it was sent to, not from the inbox that the mail was filtered
   to. I thought a QT something like:
   %FROM="%OTo"
   %ACCOUNT="%OTo"
   might work, but it doesn't.

   Is the scope of this question really that big? I apologize for not
   studying the template features in more detail. I do have some
   templates set up. I wish this wasn't that big of a deal because
   it's a bit frustrating. I like how many programs will collect all
   your mail into one box but when you reply to the messages it knows
   what account it was set to. I'm trying to achieve the same
   functionality using The Bat!.
   
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Re[2]: Mail bag assistant

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 10-2-2002 @ 14:20:11 GMT-0800 (which was 23:20
where I live) Melissa Reese wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Mail bag assistant":

MR> About once a month (or as often as I remember to do so), I use Mailbag
MR> Assistant to archive mail I want to save for some reason. Then I can
MR> clean up the folders in TB!. While TB! can handle very large message
MR> databases, I prefer to keep it relatively clutter free for my daily
MR> emailing requirements.

Seems practical

MR> I also like the several criteria I can use at once to search for
MR> messages via Mailbag - be it in archived messages or in current
MR> databases.

Well, it seems MBA has some nice features. At least i know a bit more
now.  I'll give it a thought :-)

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Re: Future Development

[Yuki Taga]

Sunday, February 10, 2002, 7:51:36 PM, Alastair wrote:

AS> Part of the problem is that TB!'s numbering is too modest - 1.54
AS> is a big upgrade to 1.53.

AS> But, at the moment,

AS> + 1.54 definitely doesn't include double-byte encoding or Unicode
AS> support;

A shame.  I see that Shift-JIS character set support has been added
to the beta, but this was almost a waste of time as far as I can
tell, because almost no Japanese use this character set anymore.
Everything, or certainly almost everything, these days, is
ISO-2022-JP.  Selecting Shift-JIS from the character set menu allows
me to read zilch.  Nada.  Zero.

AS> As far as I can see the IME can work with third-party
AS> applications:

AS> So, in principle, there's no difficulty integrating it into TB.
AS> The problem is making the developers see this :(

AS> I shall email them privately about this.

I hope you are successful.  I may send a letter myself.  Microsoft is
taking this ball and running with it, and the end result is that I
may soon be using Outlook.

I run English Windows 2000, with an English Office XP on board.  When
I get Japanese e-mail and I open it in Outlook, I have to do . . .
nothing . . . to view it properly.  It simply appears as perfectly
formatted Japanese text in the viewer. So, it's not an operating
system limitation, given that you have the right font packages
installed. It's a developer limitation, and one I think that any
serious e-mail client with pretensions to internationalism would have
to have this capability. Certainly when a free client has it, a
non-free client is going to have to compete, or ultimately lose.
Maybe the folks at Rit simply don't have a very good idea of how much
Japanese and Chinese e-mail is exchanged between English and other
non-DBCS platforms. I can assure them the number is huge, and growing
by leaps and bounds daily.  Microsoft is obviously on to this, and
may make inroads into Rit's market that may prove hard for Rit to win
back after the fact.

Best,

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Re: Spam filters

[Raj]

Shoebuddy,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 13:40:14 [GMT -0500] (which was 12:10 AM where I live) you
wrote:

This to be read in conjunction with Jernej Simoncic reply...

SJ> I want to delete spam without reading it yet make
SJ>  sure I never get anything from that person again.

I  have  a  simmilar  setup as  Jernej Simoncic. And have added a few filters to
ensure  that  mails from the same id is filtered out also. Having identified the
spam by a set of wordsthe same filter also adds the address of the sender to
a  address group which I have named as Spam Addresses.

Then  above  this this filter I have created a filter which checks if the sender
is  listed  in  the  address  book (Spam) and if so move it straight to the Spam
folder.  This  helps  when  the spammer uses words which are not caught by other
filters.

SJ>  Also, are there ways to block mail from specific domains?

Specify the domain names in the 'sender' and presence 'yes'

SJ>  Can I scan a subject line for words like "sex" and
SJ>  delete those mails? If so, how would I do that.

You  could that by specifying the words you are looking for in any of the fields
like  'sender', 'recipient', 'subject', 'text' (body) or 'kludges'(headers). But
a  word  of advisemove the messages to a different folders and check out the
results  for  some  time...before  you finally move the messages to trash folder
directly.

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Re: The Bat! and the use of pgp

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On 10 February 2002 at 22:10:20 +0100 (which was 21:10 where I live)
Claude Renaud wrote in
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> I would like to know if it is possible to use the pgp version
> implemented with the winpt software and if yes, how can we do
> to use it ?

You mean GnuPG? Like I use? To use it, just ensure that the GnuPG path
is in the system PATH environment variable then from "Tools | OpenPGP
| Choose OpenPGP version" select 'Gnu Privacy Guard'. Then OpenPGP
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Re: template that will reply with correct mail account?

[Raj]

Rick,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 16:43:17 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:13 AM where I live) you
wrote:

RR> I want it to do the
RR> same thing as if I were replying to the mail directly from the inbox
RR> of one of the accounts. I'm just learning writing the templates so a
RR> concrete working example would be great.

Templates can be specified at

Account
Folder
Address Book (Group)
Address Book (Each address)

levels.  The order of usage is the reverse of what I have stated above. There is
also an option to use Quick Templates.

I  feel the scope of your question is too big  to address in an e-mail and would
like you to check out the templates section at

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html

And then get back with specific questions

BTW  :  I too got to know power of templates pretty late and once discovered the
possibilities is mind boggling All the best!

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Re: New mail / clickable link problems

[Raj]

John,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 16:47:53 [GMT +1100] (which was 11:17 AM where I live) you
wrote:

JP> The major problem with the web link is that I have no idea which folder is
JP> highlighted in Bat!  Of this can be seen if Bat! is open, but still a nuisance,
JP> IMO.

Check  out  Account  -->Properties. At the bottom of this window you will find a
check  box  which  states  'This account is the default for 'mailt' URL's' Check
this box and create a template as you would like for that (Account Level).


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Re[2]: Mail bag assistant

[Shoebuddy Jones]

Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 6:56 PM


 That's very interesting that you use Mailbag assistant to
 archive mail.  I've tried to use it for that purpose many times but it crashes--I
 have a ton of email over 20,000.

 The Bat! handles all this email just fine--but I would
 like to back it all up as eml files.



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template that will reply with correct mail account?

[Rick Reumann]

If I filter some mail to a particular folder (or maybe the common
folder which I haven't tried using yet in the beta I have), how do I
create a template that will allow me to reply to the message that will
use the account from which the mail originated as the reply? I want it
to do more than just modify the reply to address. I want it to do the
same thing as if I were replying to the mail directly from the inbox
of one of the accounts. I'm just learning writing the templates so a
concrete working example would be great.

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Re: Mail bag assistant

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On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 12:50:13 PM PST, Luc wrote:

> General question: is it a good idea to use Mail Bag Asssitant
> together with TB! or is it not necessarily ? Are the functions TB!
> has sufficient or has MBA something to add?

Hello Luc,

I use both - for various reasons.

About once a month (or as often as I remember to do so), I use Mailbag
Assistant to archive mail I want to save for some reason. Then I can
clean up the folders in TB!. While TB! can handle very large message
databases, I prefer to keep it relatively clutter free for my daily
emailing requirements.

I also like the several criteria I can use at once to search for
messages via Mailbag - be it in archived messages or in current
databases.

Mailbag assistant can also be used with other programs I use - like my
news reader (Agent). I can also use it to search for old messages in
email databases from clients I no longer use daily, but are still
installed (Pocomail/Calypso/Pegasus, etc.).

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Re: Testing Eval - Prev/Ed windows

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Debbie,

10. februar 2002, 19:39:34, you wrote:

> I'm evaluating The Bat - and I have a question about the editor window.  In
> other E-mail clients when I resize the window horizontally - back and forth 
> - the lines of text are rearranged to fit the size of the window.  I cannot 
> find a way to do this in The Bat.  When I resize down - the lines appear 
> truncated - I have to scroll right to see the rest of the line.

It is not possible to do this in The Bat. The editor in The Bat always
shows the e-mail exactly the same way as it will be sent, which is
good for most people. Unfortunately this means that you'll either have
to scroll the window or use another client...

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The Bat! and the use of pgp

[Claude Renaud]

Bonjour tbudl,

I would like to know if it is possible to use the pgp version
implemented with the winpt software and if yes, how can we do
to use it ?


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Mail bag assistant

[Luc]

Hi list,

  General question: is it a good idea to use Mail Bag Asssitant
  together with TB! or is it not necessarily ? Are the functions TB!
  has sufficient or has MBA something to add?

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Re: Testing Eval - Prev/Ed windows

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On 10 February 2002 at 19:54:09 +0100 (which was 18:54 where I live)
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>> find a way to do this in The Bat.  When I resize down - the lines appear
>> truncated - I have to scroll right to see the rest of the line.

> It is not possible to do this in The Bat. The editor in The Bat always
> shows the e-mail exactly the same way as it will be sent, which is
> good for most people. Unfortunately this means that you'll either have
> to scroll the window or use another client...

... or use a smaller display font size, or a smaller left margin..

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Re: Spam filters

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Shoebuddy,

10. februar 2002, 19:40:14, you wrote:

SJ> Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 1:34 PM

SJ>  When Message auto view is turned off, I can't create a
SJ>  filter--I want to delete spam without reading it yet make
SJ>  sure I never get anything from that person again.

SJ>  Also, are there ways to block mail from specific domains?

 Here are mine SPAM filters:

8<--
BeginFilter
Name: SpamKiller
Active: 1
Source: \\Jernej Simončič\Inbox
Target: \\Jernej Simončič\SPAM
CopyFolder: \\\none
MainSet: 40To: UndisclosedRecipients
AltSet:1: 30Hi! How are you?
AltSet:1: 30See you later. Thanks
AltSet:2: 3030 days
AltSet:2: 30investment
AltSet:2: 00click
AltSet:3: 20sales
AltSet:3: 30visitors
AltSet:3: 30site
AltSet:4: 00xydomzale.si
AltSet:5: 30This message is not a SPAM
AltSet:6: 00NotSpam
AltSet:7: 41This message is not SPAM
AltSet:8: 30$$$
AltSet:9: 00sxyfun.net
AltSet:10: 20>>>
AltSet:11: 30MILLIONARE
AltSet:12: 30URGENT
AltSet:12: 30CONFIDENTIAL
AltSet:13: 30young
AltSet:13: 30girls
AltSet:13: 30fucking
AltSet:14: 00directbizpromo.com
AltSet:15: 10FinestClients
Actions: faDelServer
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: 
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: 
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

BeginFilter
Name: SpamKiller 2
Active: 1
Source: \\Jernej Simončič\Inbox
Target: \\Jernej Simončič\SPAM
CopyFolder: \\\none
MainSet: 20\s\s\s\s
Actions: faoRegExp
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: 
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: 
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

BeginFilter
Name: IdiotDeleter
Active: 1
Source: \\Jernej Simončič\Inbox
Target: \\Jernej Simončič\SPAM
CopyFolder: \\\none
MainSet: 00prodigy.net.mx
MainSet: 41dutaint
AltSet:1: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AltSet:2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AltSet:3: 00pti-inc.com
AltSet:4: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AltSet:5: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: faMarkRead,faDelAddress,faDelServer
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: 
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: 
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter
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 First and second filters (SpamKiller, SpamKiller2) are for 'general'
 SPAM (second filter will catch all e-mails with more than 3 spaces in
 subject; so far I only got SPAM e-mails with such subjects).

 Third filter (IdiotDeleter) is for individuals I don't like.


 Copy these filters, paste them into Notepad (or similar text editor),
 do a search-and-replace on "Jernej Simončič", change it to your
 account name. Also change the folder name \SPAM to the folder you
 wish to filter to (I don't delete these messages, just in case there
 was a false positive - there wasn't any so far). After you change
 those things, copy the text again (don't change anything else), go to
 Account->Sorting Office->Incoming mail and press Ctrl+V

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Re: Testing Eval - Prev/Ed windows

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Debbie,

On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 7:39:34 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

DP> I'm evaluating The Bat - and I have a question about the editor window.  In
DP> other E-mail clients when I resize the window horizontally - back and forth 
DP> - the lines of text are rearranged to fit the size of the window.  I cannot 
DP> find a way to do this in The Bat.  When I resize down - the lines appear 
DP> truncated - I have to scroll right to see the rest of the line.

I guess you're using 1.53, so you don't have 'Rich Text Viewer', which
is able to to exactly the thing you'Re requesting.
If you'll wait for next stable release you'll see fulfilled your wish
:-)

Meanwhile you can shrink the size of window to a width fitting your
needs, change one mail back for forth and you'll see the re-wrapping
effect fro this point. In other words: the 'old' (plain text) viewer
does only rewrap on 'refresh' of it'S content, and this little
workaround (mail changing forth and back) solves this problem until
the next release.

DP> Is this clear or not?

I think it was. :-)

HTH Pit

P.S.: It would be better not to start a new topic by replying to an
existing message as your mail is sorted _in thread_ because of
reference headers, so it might be a lot of people not reading your
message only because they are not following the thread you choose as
originator for your mail (Subject: Future Development).
A better solution is to create a completely new message as this way
no reference headers are created and threading by references, which is
one of the most important features of The Bat! to me, will not sort
your mail deeply in another discussion :-)
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Re: Spam filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Shoebuddy,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:40:14 -0500GMT (10-2-02, 19:40 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

SJ>  When Message auto view is turned off, I can't create a
SJ>  filter--I want to delete spam without reading it yet make
SJ>  sure I never get anything from that person again.

You can create a filter by going straight to the sorting office:
 Account -> Sorting Office/filters

SJ>  Also, are there ways to block mail from specific domains?

Sure, create an inbound filter:
 Set strings: domain, location: Sender, Presence: Yes
 Actions tab: Check Delete the message

In case you want to use the filter for more domains, add rules on the
altenatives tab.

SJ>  Can I scan a subject line for words like "sex" and
SJ>  delete those mails? If so, how would I do that.

String: sex
Location: subject
Presence: yes

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Re: Testing Eval - Prev/Ed windows

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Debbie,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:39:34 -0500GMT (10-2-02, 19:39 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

DP> I'm evaluating The Bat - and I have a question about the editor window.  In 
DP> other E-mail clients when I resize the window horizontally - back and forth 
DP> - the lines of text are rearranged to fit the size of the window.  I cannot 

Can't be done with TB. The editor is wysiwyg, there's no reformatting
after the editing. The only way to achieve something like that is set
the wrapping on a short length, that'll make your messages appear with
short lines on the recipient's pc too.

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Spam filters

[Shoebuddy Jones]

Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 1:34 PM

 When Message auto view is turned off, I can't create a
 filter--I want to delete spam without reading it yet make
 sure I never get anything from that person again.

 Also, are there ways to block mail from specific domains?

 Can I scan a subject line for words like "sex" and
 delete those mails? If so, how would I do that.

 A very impressed newbie to the bat.

 Best regards,
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Testing Eval - Prev/Ed windows

[Debbie Pomerance]

Hi -

I'm evaluating The Bat - and I have a question about the editor window.  In 
other E-mail clients when I resize the window horizontally - back and forth 
- the lines of text are rearranged to fit the size of the window.  I cannot 
find a way to do this in The Bat.  When I resize down - the lines appear 
truncated - I have to scroll right to see the rest of the line.

I use a fairly large font due to low vision plus a screen magnification 
package - and I normally keep my editor  preview windows narrow so that I 
don't have to keep moving the cursor back and forth to read the entire 
width of the screen. <-- I hope I explained this in a coherent fashion.  If 
I can't get the lines to automatically resize then I can't do this.

Is this clear or not?

Thanks

Debbie


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Re: Future Development

[SyP]

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Hello all,

I wrote on 2/10/2002, 5:40 PM:

SyP> FYI, the current beta has Shift-JIS encoding

See also: http://www.iac.gatech.edu/modlangs/Japanese/s-jis.html

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Re: Future Development

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Hello Yuki,

You wrote on 2/10/2002, 9:24 AM:


Yuki> I am not interested in a TB! Japanese. Not in the slightest.
Yuki> What I am interested in is a TB! English that can read Japanese
Yuki> e-mail, and that will let me input Japanese directly into its
Yuki> message editor.

FYI, the current beta has Shift-JIS encoding in the XLAT manager
(Options -> XLAT tables). Maybe it's worth a look (note: I thought in
Shift-JIS it is possible that one character is encoded as a multibyte
sequence, it's not possible in an XLAT table, or is it?)

But you probably want full Shift-JIS + ISO-2022-JP + UTF-8 support. (I
do, too)

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Delete message in thread...

[Jonathan Wayne]

Why does deleting a message in a thread take one to the next thread, not the
next message in the same thread? This happens when in the viewer panel mode and
when viewing a message and hitting the "delete message and move down" icon. The
only difference is that when the viewer panel is open, the next message in the
thread will be selected if the thread is expanded.

If I am reading a message in a thread and delete it, I DON'T want to go the next
thread! It certainly makes thread management very difficult.

I didn't see this addressed in the archives either.

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Re: Attachments' reminder

[Alastair Scott]

On 10 February 2002 at 11:23 Peter wrote:

> Hello Alastair,

> On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 10:53:25 AM you wrote (at least in
> part):

> AS> You could do it with an Outgoing Mail filter

> Nope ... he can't.

> Outgoing Mail filters are triggered _after_ sending is done, so the
> only effect would be he has sent the 1MB message plus it is
> addtionally parked in oubox, a kind of reminder: 'You sent again a big
> mail without zipping attachment!' :-)

I thought of that possibility about 2 minutes after I wrote the
response :(

Oh well, another feature request (it seems that a filter triggered
_before_ the email was sent - or not - would be extremely useful in
certain circumstances, and this is one).

Alastair


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Re: TB! 1.53t

[Michal Kosinski]

B-stok/PL, Sunday, February 10, 2002

Hello Marck,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, at 11:17:32 (which was 12:17 where I live) you wrote:

>> What is TB! 1.53t which can be found at the beta site?
MDP> It is 1.53 with a couple of obscure bug fixes (I don't recall which).

AFAIR  it  fixes backup/restore functionality with high-ascii characters in
address book entries.

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Re: Future Development

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear Yuki san,

 --->>> Yuki Taga / Sonntag, 10.02.2002, 09:24:44
Future Development


> Very advanced in what context? What I am asking about actually, I
> guess, is the often referred to but somewhat phantom version 2. And
> my comment above is really about release versions, not betas. There
> hasn't been a new release version, highlighted on the TB home page,
> since June 19 of last year.

Final v2 is in development. The process is - and this is the deep
thought of TB!beta - to first develop Functions that work. No need to
explain how users would react when a SW-Version is released with a lot
of bugs. So joining the TB!beta gives to everyone the chance to give
in his thought and participate in testing so as to help in bringing
out a stable v2.

BTW - beta39 is so good that you could make use of it as your v1.53o
with the difference that it has added functions and features.


> I'm not really interested in running a beta, although a beta being
> developed with DBCS support would probably change my mind very
> quickly. [...]

Only your participation in the TB!beta list can answer this.


> I'd like to hear from someone who knows if this is still the case,
> or even if there is currently development being done on version 2 --
> serious development, of course.

there is a constant development process and the people at RITLABS work
very hard to a final v2.

> I wouldn't be surprised if it's
> dying. E-mail clients are not fantastic money makers in the first
> place. I'd just like to know the current story.

No way Yuki san. Don't ever think of it. TB! is much more used on this
planet as you may dream of - belive me.


> I am not interested in a TB! Japanese. Not in the slightest.

Just my thought :-)


> What I am interested in is a TB! English that can read Japanese
> e-mail, and that will let me input Japanese directly into its
> message editor. [...]

If no one in this list can answer you this you should contact RITLabs
directly. Stefen and Maxim are very open an communicative and you
would for sure get the most competent answer.


> It's nice to be a fan, Eddie. I'm a fan, too, but I'm not a fan
> beyond all reason. I need to be even more international than TB! is
> at the moment.

But a fan is also a person who does not expect that *his* function is
available immediately but works toward his goal. You have all
opportunities by joining the different ML and Communicating with the
developers to reach your aim.
And TB! is very International (read my words above)!


> And sadly, there *are* alternatives.

My comment had a Smile ...

> They may not be as great as TB! [...]

ACK!



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Re[2]: Future Development

[David Denton]

Hello Marck,

Sunday, February 10, 2002, 6:15:49 AM, you wrote:

>> + 1.54 definitely doesn't include double-byte encoding or Unicode
>> support;

MDP> Although this has not appeared, there is better support for Japanese,
MDP> Thai and Chinese in the new version. DBCS will probably now be a 2.1
MDP> feature.

I hope that full DBCS - Unicode support is somewhere close to the
*top* of the priority list for The Bat! developers. Micro$oft has been
way ahead on this for many years and the lack of such support is about
the only thing that could send me back to the otherwise thoroughly
inferior Outlook Express. For such an international program as The
Bat!, I think full Unicode support for both editor and viewer is a
must.

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Re[2]: Invalid argument to date encode

[David Newton]

Hello Alain,

Sunday, February 10, 2002, 9:37:10 AM, you wrote:

AdG> Hello David,

AdG>  On  Sat, 9 Feb 2002 at 18:39:53 [GMT +] (which was 19:39 where I live) you 
wrote:

DN>>   I would welcome any help with the following problem

DN>>   I am getting an alert box whenever I start theBat which contains the
DN>>   message:
DN>>   Invalid argument to date encode

AdG> It should have something to do with your address book:

[Rest of message cut]


It does. Many thanks
I imported my address book from Outlook Express and removing those
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Re: New mail / clickable link problems

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello John!

On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 6:47:53 AM you wrote:

> The major problem with the web link is that I have no idea which folder is
> highlighted in Bat!  Of this can be seen if Bat! is open, but still a nuisance,
> IMO.

> How do I overcome this problem?

1. Don't use folder templates (wink, wink ...).

2. Declare one account the default for mailto links and its default
template will be used.




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TB! 1.53t

[Marcus Ohlström]

What is TB! 1.53t which can be found at the beta site? Are there any
reasons to continue using 1.53d instead of switching to 1.53t?

I guess it's a beta since it is found on the beta site and not on the
official site, but why is it called "1.53t" and not "1.54 beta x" as
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Re: Attachments' reminder

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Alastair,

On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 10:53:25 AM you wrote (at least in
part):

AS> You could do it with an Outgoing Mail filter

Nope ... he can't.

Outgoing Mail filters are triggered _after_ sending is done, so the
only effect would be he has sent the 1MB message plus it is
addtionally parked in oubox, a kind of reminder: 'You sent again a big
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Re: TB! 1.53t

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Hi Marcus,

On 10 February 2002 at 11:57:21 +0100 (which was 10:57 where I live)
Marcus Ohlström wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> What is TB! 1.53t which can be found at the beta site?

It is 1.53 with a couple of obscure bug fixes (I don't recall which).

> Are there any reasons to continue using 1.53d instead of switching
> to 1.53t?

Not if you're not having problems with 1.53d.

> I guess it's a beta since it is found on the beta site and not on
> the official site,

Not quite - it's just not the official release is all.

> but why is it called "1.53t" and not "1.54 beta x" as the other beta
> versions?

Because it's not a beta but a late-tweaked release.

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Re: Future Development

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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On 10 February 2002 at 10:51:36 + Alastair Scott wrote in
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I'd just like to clarify a couple of points here.

>> I'd like to hear from someone who knows if this is still the case, or
>> even if there is currently development being done on version 2 --
>> serious development, of course.

Yes. The feature set of 1.54 includes most (80%) of the stuff
speculated about for V2.

>> I wouldn't be surprised if it's dying.

Very, very far from it! TB progresses and the team is working hard on
it.

>> E-mail clients are not fantastic money makers in the first place.
>> I'd just like to know the current story.

> Part of the problem is that TB!'s numbering is too modest - 1.54 is
> a big upgrade to 1.53.

Correct.

> But, at the moment,

> + 1.54 definitely doesn't include double-byte encoding or Unicode
> support;

Although this has not appeared, there is better support for Japanese,
Thai and Chinese in the new version. DBCS will probably now be a 2.1
feature.

> + 2.00 has had both of these hinted at, as well as a new filtering
> system,

Present in 1.54 (although not yet under full test).

> new editor with HTML writing

This reportedly under way.

> as well as reading,

There is a new display engine which also includes support for variable
pitch fonts.

> new user interface,

This is not on the cards AFAICS.

> news reading plugin,

This has not been done as yet.

> full IMAP4 folder handling,

2.1 :-)

> support for global peace and understanding

Supported in the pre v1 alphas and betas (what a cosmopolitan and
varied crowd we are in the TB user department!).

> (only joking about the last one ;)

> What I don't know is what happens when 1.54 is released; does 2.00
> beta 1 instantly appear with all these new features ready for
> (doubtless protracted) testing?

1.54 may well be introduced as v2 since, as I said at the top, it
already has 80% of the slated v2 functionality.

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Re[2]: Future Development

[Yuki Taga]

Sunday, February 10, 2002, 4:58:08 PM, Eddie wrote:

EC> The development of TB! is very advanced - currently at
EC> v1.54beta39. There is a list discussing all pertaining to
EC> TB!bata. You also can subscribe to
EC> [EMAIL PROTECTED] an post your msg to
EC> [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a very interesting Group.

Very advanced in what context?  What I am asking about actually, I
guess, is the often referred to but somewhat phantom version 2.  And
my comment above is really about release versions, not betas.  There
hasn't been a new release version, highlighted on the TB home page,
since June 19 of last year.  I'm not really interested in running a
beta, although a beta being developed with DBCS support would
probably change my mind very quickly.  Version 2, I heard, a long
time ago, was supposed to be headed in the direction of DBCS support.
I'd like to hear from someone who knows if this is still the case, or
even if there is currently development being done on version 2 --
serious development, of course.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's
dying.  E-mail clients are not fantastic money makers in the first
place.  I'd just like to know the current story.

EC> If you want to have a TB!Japanese you better get in touch with
EC> Ritlabs directly.

I am not interested in a TB! Japanese.  Not in the slightest.  What I
am interested in is a TB! English that can read Japanese e-mail, and
that will let me input Japanese directly into its message editor.  I
hate to say this . . . but Microsoft is starting to get way ahead of
the game here, with their Global Input Method Editor (IME).  This
allows almost seamless input of Japanese, Chinese, or Korean into
English Office documents, or into English Web documents.  Of course,
it works just fine with Outlook, as well.

EC> No need to look for alternative - there are non ;-)

It's nice to be a fan, Eddie.  I'm a fan, too, but I'm not a fan
beyond all reason.  I need to be even more international than TB! is
at the moment. And sadly, there *are* alternatives.  They may not be
as great as TB! in some respects, but I need to be able to have
Japanese e-mail functionality on an English system.  If TB! can't
give that to me, and fairly soon, for whatever reason, it's probably
time for me to move on, even if that alternative is Outlook.

I would GLADLY pay a bit extra for this functionality, mind you, even
with MS is trying to shove Outlook down my throat for basically
nothing, since it's really just a no-cost add-on to Office.

Yuki ^_^


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Re: Future Development

[Alastair Scott]

On 10 February 2002 at 08:24 Yuki wrote:

> Very advanced in what context?  What I am asking about actually, I
> guess, is the often referred to but somewhat phantom version 2.  And
> my comment above is really about release versions, not betas.  There
> hasn't been a new release version, highlighted on the TB home page,
> since June 19 of last year.  I'm not really interested in running a
> beta, although a beta being developed with DBCS support would
> probably change my mind very quickly.  Version 2, I heard, a long
> time ago, was supposed to be headed in the direction of DBCS support.
> I'd like to hear from someone who knows if this is still the case, or
> even if there is currently development being done on version 2 --
> serious development, of course.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's
> dying.  E-mail clients are not fantastic money makers in the first
> place.  I'd just like to know the current story.

Part of the problem is that TB!'s numbering is too modest - 1.54 is a
big upgrade to 1.53.

But, at the moment,

+ 1.54 definitely doesn't include double-byte encoding or Unicode
support;

+ 2.00 has had both of these hinted at, as well as a new filtering
system, new editor with HTML writing as well as reading, new user
interface, news reading plugin, full IMAP4 folder handling, support
for global peace and understanding (only joking about the last one ;)

What I don't know is what happens when 1.54 is released; does 2.00
beta 1 instantly appear with all these new features ready for
(doubtless protracted) testing?

> EC> If you want to have a TB!Japanese you better get in touch with
> EC> Ritlabs directly.

> I am not interested in a TB! Japanese.  Not in the slightest.  What I
> am interested in is a TB! English that can read Japanese e-mail, and
> that will let me input Japanese directly into its message editor.  I
> hate to say this . . . but Microsoft is starting to get way ahead of
> the game here, with their Global Input Method Editor (IME).  This
> allows almost seamless input of Japanese, Chinese, or Korean into
> English Office documents, or into English Web documents.  Of course,
> it works just fine with Outlook, as well.

As far as I can see the IME can work with third-party applications:

http://www.eu.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/recommended/ime/default.asp

So, in principle, there's no difficulty integrating it into TB. The
problem is making the developers see this :(

I shall email them privately about this.

Alastair


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Re: Delete

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Carl,
On Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 20:49:38 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

C> When I have several new e-mails in a box,how do I Delete a certain
C> one WithOut having to open it up?

Disable "View -> Message auto-view".

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Delete

[Carl]

Hello Listar,


Greetings List:

I subscribe to the 'digest' format,so I hope this gets posted
properly.

When I have several new e-mails in a box,how do I Delete a certain one
WithOut having to open it up?

When I first click on the one I wish to delete,it opens right up,I
would like to get rid of it altogether without Ever opening it.

Then to top it off,if that message happens to be the only one in the
trash folder,Or the first one in there-when I Right click on the Trash
folder with the intention of Emptying it,that Same e-mail is opened up
again!

There must be a simple solution that I am overlooking-help..

Thanks,
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Re: Attachments' reminder

[Alastair Scott]

On 09 February 2002 at 19:53 Sergey wrote:

> Hello TBUDL,

>   Sometimes  I  need  to  send  files. And sometimes they are very big
>   (about  1  meg).  And sometimes I forget to zip them before sending.

>   The  question  is:  is  it  possible in TB! to make a reminder (with
>   macros  or  regular  expressions)  so that when I'm trying to send a
>   message with attachment that exceeds, for example 200 kb, it pops up
>   and  asks  something like "wouldn't be better to zip your attachment
>   before sending?"

You could do it with an Outgoing Mail filter - in the Advanced tab of
that there's an option 'Message is larger than ... K Bytes'. Setting
... to 200 would trigger the rest of the filter in the situation
described.

I think the pop-up box is beyond TB!*, but you could certainly park
the message in the Outbox (see 'Park the message' in the Actions tab)
and play a suitably annoying sound (same tab at bottom).

Alastair

* that inspires a feature request; it would be very easy to add a
filter option to pop up a box with text defined in the filter.


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Re: Future Development

[Shahar]

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 10:05:33, Shahar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
Future Development


> Hello Eddie

> On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 09:58:08, Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
>Shahar about:
> Future Development


>>> I'd just like to know once and for all if we are ever headed in the
>>> direction of full DBCS support.


> Sorry for my ignorance but what is DBCS support ?



> Thank you for writing.


Oooops. Sorry. Is it me playing here or something else ?



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Re: Invalid argument to date encode

[Alain de Gevigney]

Hello David,

 On  Sat, 9 Feb 2002 at 18:39:53 [GMT +] (which was 19:39 where I live) you wrote:

DN>   I would welcome any help with the following problem

DN>   I am getting an alert box whenever I start theBat which contains the
DN>   message:
DN>   Invalid argument to date encode

It should have something to do with your address book:

This is a forwarded message
From: Dave Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, November 8, 2001, 6:04:48 PM
Subject: Invalid argument to date encode

===8<==Original message text===
Hello Dave,

Wednesday, November 07, 2001, 11:01:43 AM, you wrote:

DG> The error occurs *only* when trying to view the Properties of an
DG> Address Book entry. Beyond that, if he creates a *new* address
DG> book entry, he can view its properties successfully. All of the
DG> address book entries which return this error were imported from
DG> Outlook 2000. He is using 1.53d on Windows 2000 SP1.
DG> Additionally, pressing F8 does *not* open the Address Book, it
DG> must be opened from the menu.

We found the answer -- I thought I would post it here just to
have it on the record!

When my coworker imported Outlook's AB, he matched the birthdate
field. However, during the import, if Outlook's birthdate field
was empty, the import converted it to a string of zero's, which
is not a valid date string. Deleting all the address book entries
and re-importing (without the birthdate field) fixed the problem.

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Re: Future Development

[Shahar]

Hello Eddie

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 09:58:08, Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
Future Development


>> I'd just like to know once and for all if we are ever headed in the
>> direction of full DBCS support.


Sorry for my ignorance but what is DBCS support ?



Thank you for writing.


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Re: list working?

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear Roelof, 

 --->>> Roelof Otten / Sonntag, 10.02.2002, 09:30:23
list working?


EC>> Can not confirm. on Feb. 9 I got 24 msg. Not counted is Rick's
EC>> Question and your answer.

> Same here, but between Rick's latest message and his remark about the
> flow was eight hours or so. You gotta read his remark in view of his
> timezone.

I'm here in Germany and the first msg on Feb. 9. was written a 00:08
by Dave Goodman with a Timestamp from "Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:08:33 -0500"
and a MsgID of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
The last msg was written at 20:53 by Sergey Kovalyov with a Timestamp
of "Sat, 09 Feb 2002 21:53:01 +0200" and a MsgID of
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

My Timezone is +1h

So I think there is a too big difference between 9msg and 24msg.


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Re: Future Development

[Shahar]

Hello Eddie

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 10:41:08, Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
Future Development


> Dear Shahar, 

>  --->>> Shahar / Sonntag, 10.02.2002, 09:19:58
> Future Development


>>> Double Byte Character Set

>> Is is 8 Bit decoding or I mess here everything ?

> But: after googling again on "dbcs (8-bit|8bit|8 bit)" I found the
> Information you where asking. It says:

> Does this help you?

Yes it does. Thank you!.

> Enjoy your day :-)

You too.






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Re: Future Development

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear Shahar, 

 --->>> Shahar / Sonntag, 10.02.2002, 09:19:58
Future Development


>> Double Byte Character Set

> Is is 8 Bit decoding or I mess here everything ?

Unfortunately I'm not very familiar with this. My Answer I could give
you after googling on the word DBCS.

But: after googling again on "dbcs (8-bit|8bit|8 bit)" I found the
Information you where asking. It says:

===><== http://www.double-byte.com/102800.htm ==
> DBCS is designed to support Asian languages, and uses both 8-bit and
> 16-bit character encoding. For ASCII, not ANSI, characters, the
> 8-bit encoding is used. For the Asian languages characters, the
> 16-bit encoding is used. Thus, implementing DBCS support in your
> application would require extra coding. You have to check if a
> character is an 8-bit character or a first/last 8-bit of an 18-bit
> character. There are different DBCS for different Asian languages.
> For example, Japanese has its own while Korean has its own character
> set. You might end up with a code for Japanese, another code for
> Korean, another for Simplified Chinese, and so on; how would you
> like to maintain that many codes for just one application?
===><== /http://www.double-byte.com/102800.htm/ ==

Does this help you?


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Re: list working?

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Eddie,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:07:28 +0100GMT (10-2-02, 7:07 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

RR>>> Not a single message all day. Odd.

>> Yep. Previous message came from you too. ;-)
>> Must be the Olympics or something like that.

EC> Can not confirm. on Feb. 9 I got 24 msg. Not counted is Rick's
EC> Question and your answer.

Same here, but between Rick's latest message and his remark about the
flow was eight hours or so. You gotta read his remark in view of his
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Re: Future Development

[Shahar]

Hello Eddie

On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 10:12:32, Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to 
Shahar about:
Future Development


>> Sorry for my ignorance but what is DBCS support ?

> Double Byte Character Set

Thank you. One more question:
Is is 8 Bit decoding or I mess here everything ?


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Re: Future Development

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear Eddie, 

 --->>> Eddie Castelli / Sonntag, 10.02.2002, 09:12:32
Future Development


ADDENDUM:

>> Sorry for my ignorance but what is DBCS support ?

> Double Byte Character Set
> |  || |
> +--++-+>>> DBCS

Look for further Infoermations at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q181276

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