Version of The Bat! is Obsolete
Hello Batters, I've installed the free version of Grisoft's AVG . When I tried installing their plug-in - avgbat9us.exe - in the same directory as thebat.exe (C:\program files\the bat\) I get the above message, with the warning that I need at least version 1.6 of the Bat. I am using Christmas 1.62. What gives? TIA Maurice Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version of The Bat! is Obsolete
Hallo Maurice, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:07:39 +0100GMT (30-12-02, 10:07 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MM I've installed the free version of Grisoft's AVG . MM I am using Christmas 1.62. What gives? To use their plug-in with TB 1.62, you need to use version 10 of their plug-in, can be found at: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat10us.exe ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/avgbat10us.exe -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem installing Bat!
Hi Bat! Fans, I am trying to install Bat! at work on an XP Pro workstation with SP1. This is a brand new pc installed about 4 weeks ago. Downloaded the International Pack. When I install, I keep getting the following error message:- The Bat! Is not correctly installed or an old Bat! Version is used. Please install the Bat! Again and run this programme once more. Which of course appears to be nonsense, as stated above, new pc, new installation of XP Pro, etc. Any ideas of what gives? I have looked in the archives but did not seem to be able to find a lead to this. As an aside, can the Bat! be used as a mail client, with Outlook 2002 as the address book? T.I.A. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Do cosmetologists give make-up exams? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hallo John, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:50:47 +1100GMT (30-12-02, 10:50 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: JP I am trying to install Bat! at work on an XP Pro workstation with SP1. JP This is a brand new pc installed about 4 weeks ago. JP Downloaded the International Pack. If I read you correct, you've only downloaded the international pack. That's an add-on to TB. First you need to install TB itself. http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe JP As an aside, can the Bat! be used as a mail client, with Outlook JP 2002 as the address book? Not that I'm aware of. I don't suppose Outlook 2002 can be run as an LDAP-server, can it? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questins related to the log
Hallo Roelof, On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:54:30 +0100GMT (29-12-02, 23:54 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MSG 3. One other log-related question. What do the green and blue MSG arrows mean or do? Can't figure them out. RO A blue arrow pointing down means that a message has triggered an RO incoming filter. Of course Marck was right by stating that it's receiving a message that causes a blue arrow. I was misguided by the shortness of my log, so that I had no instances of incoming messages that didn't trigger a filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hi Roelof, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, at 11:13:23 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:13 where I live) you wrote: If I read you correct, you've only downloaded the international pack. From the web site (confusing?) **The Bat! International Pack contains localized (Czech, Danish, Dutch, French, German, Polish, Russian, Spanish, Ukrainian) versions of user interface for The Bat! and spell checker dictionaries for Brazilian Portuguese, British English, Danish, Dutch, German, French, Spanish, Iberian Portuguese, Italian, Finnish and Swedish. You don't need to download and install International Pack each time you download new version of The Bat! To a dummy like me, what exactly should user interface mean? Anyway, all academic since it seems I can't use the Outlook address book. :-( Thanks for the reply! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Do unto others BEFORE they do unto YOU. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hallo John, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:29:48 +1100GMT (30-12-02, 11:29 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: JP **The Bat! International Pack contains localized (Czech, Danish, JP Dutch, French, German, Polish, Russian, Spanish, Ukrainian) versions JP of user interface for The Bat! JP To a dummy like me, what exactly should user interface mean? Translations of the menu-items, at least that's what's in it. So you can select the language that TB uses in it's menu's etc. When I select Dutch as the language TB's menu doesn't say: 'Message Specials Folder Account Tools View Options Help', but 'Bericht Speciaal Map Account Extra Beeld Opties Help' JP Anyway, all academic since it seems I can't use the Outlook JP address book. :-( Why would that be a condition? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version of The Bat! is Obsolete
On 30 December 2002, 09:43, Roelof Otten wrote (of Grisoft AVG): To use their plug-in with TB 1.62, you need to use version 10 of their plug-in ~~~ I installed the AVG plugin before upgrading TB to 1.62. Does this mean that I need to uninstall the existing plugin and install version 10? TIA, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Daddy, what does Formatting Drive C: mean? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hi Roelof, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, at 11:57:14 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:57 where I live) you wrote: JP Anyway, all academic since it seems I can't use the Outlook JP address book. :-( Why would that be a condition? Thinking about it - why would it? However I do need the Outlook diary, notes, and tasks. How easy is it to import address details into Bat! from Outofluck/ Any tricks to watch out for? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 BREAKFAST.COM Halted...Cereal Port Not Responding. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version of The Bat! is Obsolete
Hallo Geoff, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:41:49 +GMT (30-12-02, 11:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: To use their plug-in with TB 1.62, you need to use version 10 of their plug-in GL I installed the AVG plugin before upgrading TB to 1.62. Does this mean GL that I need to uninstall the existing plugin and install version 10? No, the difference between version 9 and 10 of the plug-in is only that the installer of version 9 won't recognize TB 1.62 as a version newer than 1.6 -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Hi, John Phillips wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : How easy is it to import address details into Bat! from Outofluck/ Any tricks to watch out for? AFAIK it should be rather easy. I think the only known problem happens with contacts' birthday formats. If you can do not import them. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62 Beta/17 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Gi'day John, It is established that on Monday, 30 December 2002, at 22:03:59[GMT +1100](which was 10:03 PM where I live) you wrote: How easy is it to import address details into Bat! from Outofluck/ Any tricks to watch out for? There is a program called wab2ldif.exe (*.wab files) which should help you here. Download from ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/ Dawn is another one that may help - same place. -- Cheers, Tom Sydney, Australia And now, here's something we hope you'll really like! ___ Proudly using The Bat! Version 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Problem installing Bat!
Hi John. At 5:29 AM on Monday, December 30, 2002 you [JP] wrote the following about 'Problem installing Bat!': JP [...] Anyway, all academic since it seems JP I can't use the Outlook address book. JP [/...] Why can't you export your Outlook address book. The Bat! can import it w/o a problem. In TB!, open the Address Book. Look under File, you should see an import function. HTH Jan Rifkinson -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62 Christmas Edition/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to Mass Export Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello marek, Is it possible to export all message from an account? If it is possible I would like it to stay in the same structure it's in now. Thanks for any help :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhBQjF3LB35+TCg0EQIfSQCgtNZFnuegBxS5BdXNdfISlPbSzEQAoKKH yMF+aL+NWvhars0KrBSvHce0 =x8l/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to Mass Export Messages
Dear Victor Is it possible to export all message from an account? If it is possible I would like it to stay in the same structure it's in now. Thanks for any help :) You could user a third party utility for that, Mailbag Assistant. It supports The Bat-messages. http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/ -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing sender's address for reply
Monday, December 30, 2002, 1:31:45 AM, Thomas wrote: So, whichever address he uses to write to me, the reply will always go to his private GMX address. Your friend could also use the Reply-To header field - that's what it's for. :) Bruno -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Hi, I've just installed Netscape 7.01 and I think it's much better than IE. The only problem I have is that Netscape wants :) to use its email client and I want to use TheBat instead. I've found in the faq that in the last version of Netscape the problem could be solved with NsProto. I've installed the last version 1.1 but when I click on register it tells me that Create Dispatch Failed. I'm using winXp. So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? thaks -- @D! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing sender's address for reply
Hello Bruno, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:47:20 -0500 GMT (30/12/02, 21:47 +0700 GMT), Bruno Fernandes wrote: So, whichever address he uses to write to me, the reply will always go to his private GMX address. Your friend could also use the Reply-To header field - that's what it's for. :) This is his office address he is writing from. So, except for a few private mails, people should reply to his office address. I don't know whether OL supports AB-based template macros, but somehow I doubt it. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I intend to live forever - so far, so good. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing sender's address for reply
Thomas, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Thomas Fernandez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF I have an addressbook entry for him, with both addresses mentioned. TF The reply template contains this macro: TF %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- TF So, whichever address he uses to write to me, the reply will always go TF to his private GMX address. Perfect. Thank you. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Changing sender's address for reply
Bruno, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Bruno Fernandes wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: BF Monday, December 30, 2002, 1:31:45 AM, Thomas wrote: So, whichever address he uses to write to me, the reply will always go to his private GMX address. BF Your friend could also use the Reply-To header field - that's what BF it's for. :) Probably not. It is likely that the friend *wants* replies to go to his given From address, except for a few cases where friends are to reply to the alternative address. Yes, my friend and Thomas' friend could both allow for this on their end by the use of TB! and AB templates, but they don't, so we have to accommodate it and TB! thankfully allows us to do that. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Davidhoff, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Davidhoff wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? There are two answers to your dilemma. One is to uninstall NS and then reinstall it with a custom installation. Deselect the MailNews component. The other way to fix the problem is to add a line to your userprefs.js file. I do not have the cite, but there are some unofficial help pages on the 'net which have instructions on how to do this. Take a look, then repost here if you cannot find one. (Be very careful, however, to have NS closed when you make the change.) FWIW, you might also consider keeping NS mail in order to have the capability to send HTML mail if necessary. I do not often have to do that, but once in a while the need arises. [Flamers please restrain yourselves ;-) ] Since I archive my old mail into a different format anyway, it doesn't matter to me that a few messages originate in a different message base. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joseph, Monday, December 30, 2002, 10:31:54 AM, you wrote: JN Davidhoff, JNOn Monday, December 30, 2002, Davidhoff wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? I Use Mozilla instead and the below code when inserted into the user preferences file does the trick. user_pref(network.protocol-handler.external.mailto, true); Close out Netscape completely then navigate to your profiles directory. Find the javascript prefs file and *BACK IT UP* Insert the above code and launch Netscape. Try it out as since it works on Mozilla for me and it's sort of the grand daddy behind Netscapes browser it might work :) Your pref file should be located somewhere within the top most directory of your profile. I hope I helped :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhBph13LB35+TCg0EQJk/ACg+Vy6AvsgfbUBbSZb0r1WD+LcHi8AoJ56 bcqfvDWAClXur5RYpQCyHzqv =ngyR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cannot use the DEL button
Hey all, Just new to this group, but I got a problem with The Bat. I was checking out the shortcuts list and tried to edit some of them. But when I wanted to close the pane, I constantly got the message that there are some double entries. So instead of just checking these double entries, I thought to myself: Why not delete *all* shortcuts an dreassign them the way I want to. So I did. Worked great. But now I want do assign the button Delete on my keyboard to the action (you guessed it) delete message in the messagepane. But that can not be done in the shortcuts editor. I cannot assign the button Delete to any action. Can anybody help me with this? Regards, Frank Meeuwsen punkey.com Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem installing Bat!
Monday, December 30, 2002, 6:56:07 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: Why can't you export your Outlook address book. The Bat! can import it w/o a problem. In TB!, open the Address Book. Look under File, you should see an import function. I never had much luck importing Outlook contacts using either a CSV or LDIF format. No matter how hard I tried, the data from Outlook didn't quite match up properly with TB's fields. What worked for me was to export all of my Outlook contacts in Vcard format to a temporary directory. Then I selected all of the Vcard files in that directory (.VCF) and dragged/dropped them on my TB Address Book. They imported perfectly. You might try that if you have problems importing the contacts file into TB. -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing sender's address for reply
Thomas, I replied earlier in the list, thanking you. I think the macro you supplied is just what I'm looking for. Now that I'm actually sitting down to add it to my friend's AB template, however, I have a question. What is the trailing hyphen at the end of the macro? %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Victor, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your pref file should be located somewhere within the top most directory of your profile. But be sure to modify the userprefs.js file not one of the other *prefs.js file. If there is no userprefs.js file, then create one. NS will add your line to its nsprefs.js file, or whatever it's called. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Changing sender's address for reply
Hello Joseph, Monday, December 30, 2002, 12:19:55 PM, you wrote: Thomas, I replied earlier in the list, thanking you. I think the macro you supplied is just what I'm looking for. Now that I'm actually sitting down to add it to my friend's AB template, however, I have a question. What is the trailing hyphen at the end of the macro? %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- So, it does add a blank line (no line feed). -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.accramed.ca) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing sender's address for reply
Hello Joseph, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:19:55 -0600 GMT (30/12/02, 23:19 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: I replied earlier in the list, thanking you. I think the macro you supplied is just what I'm looking for. Now that I'm actually sitting down to add it to my friend's AB template, however, I have a question. What is the trailing hyphen at the end of the macro? %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- It is not only a hyphen, it is the dash macro: %- You see, when you add an macro into a template, you will usually hit enter afterwards and then continue typing in the next line. this enter will be interpreted by TB quite literally: in you reply, there will be a new line. In order to prevent this, you can use the dash macro at the end of the macro line, and it will eat up the CR/LF, so there is no new line in your reply. For example, if my reply template for this list started with: %TO=%TO=%OFromName on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello %OFromName, you would see a blank line at the top of my reply, before Hello. If I change this to: %TO=%TO=%OFromName on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- Hello %OFromName, (adding the dash macro to the end of the first line) there will be no blank line, and Hello will appear on the top of the reply. Clear? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Corduroy pillows: They're making headlines! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing sender's address for reply
Hello Daniel, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:30:26 -0400 GMT (30/12/02, 23:30 +0700 GMT), Daniel Rail wrote: What is the trailing hyphen at the end of the macro? %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- So, it does add a blank line (no line feed). No. The dash macro (%-) suppresses the CR/LF you have manually added. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Be more or less specific. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Changing sender's address for reply
Daniel, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Daniel Rail wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: %TO= %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- DR So, it does add a blank line (no line feed). Hmmm... How can one have a blank line added without a LF? And, in any event, why would one want that in a To: field? -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Changing sender's address for reply
Thomas, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Thomas Fernandez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF Clear? It is. Thanks. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! feature requests
Hello Gavin, Monday, December 30, 2002, 2:30:01 AM, you wrote: GS I'm enthusiastically aware of these keyboard commands. However, GS scrolling *half* a page (instead of a full one) is something I would GS really like to see. I find that scrolling a page at a time makes it GS difficult to maintain context. I'd support that suggestion too. Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
Hi Punkey, on Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:54:47 +0100GMT (30.12.02, 16:54 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : P Just new to this group, but I got a problem with The Bat. Welcome to TBUDL! P But now I want do assign the button Delete on my keyboard to the P action (you guessed it) delete message in the messagepane. But that P can not be done in the shortcuts editor. I cannot assign the button P Delete to any action. I don't quite understand. The DEL button _is_ already assigned to a specific action, i.e., delete. So, when I highlight a message and hit DEL it will be moved to trash. Why would you want an extra shortcut? -- Cheers Peter The joyfulness of a man prolongeth his days. New Testament Winamp currently playing: Tori Amos - Strange Little Girl Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cannot use the DEL button
I don't quite understand. The DEL button _is_ already assigned to a specific action, i.e., delete. So, when I highlight a message and hit DEL it will be moved to trash. Why would you want an extra shortcut? Euhm well...that's the one that I deleted while rushing through the shortcuts editor. Right now it doesn't do anything anymore. Not after a reboot or restart of the program. So it's not an extra shortcut. It's the original shortcut I want back. Regards, Frank Meeuwsen punkey.com Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! feature requests
Hi Gavin, on Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:30:01 +1100GMT (30.12.02, 03:30 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : One line: alt-up or alt-down One page: space bar. GS I'm enthusiastically aware of these keyboard commands. However, GS scrolling *half* a page (instead of a full one) is something I would GS really like to see. I find that scrolling a page at a time makes it GS difficult to maintain context. You're right. But didn't Thomas give the answer (above)? Hold alt and press arrowdown as long as you like. -- Cheers Peter The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe !! Winamp currently playing: Laura Pausini - Un'emergenza d'amore Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
Hi Punkey, on Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:03:46 +0100GMT (30.12.02, 19:03 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I don't quite understand. The DEL button _is_ already assigned to a specific action P Euhm well...that's the one that I deleted while rushing through the P shortcuts editor. Right now it doesn't do anything anymore. I still don't get it. Do you mean, your DEL button doesn't work at all? I never heard of that. I don't think I can disable or assign a different action to the DEL button. (Why should I want it?) Isn't this a Windows' issue rather than one of TB!? Or is the DEL entry missing in your shortcuts editor? You would need something like set to default then, but I don't know how to achieve this for the shortcuts except for re-installing TB!. I'm not even sure if that would work, so don't do it unless more competent members advise you so. ;-) Maybe someone else has an idea? -- Cheers Peter If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush... Winamp currently playing: Gilberto Gil - Beira Mar Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
Hi all Right now it doesn't do anything anymore. Not after a reboot or restart of the program. So it's not an extra shortcut. It's the original shortcut I want back. Delete (rename) file Shortcut.CFG in the folder in which you store your mail. This should give you the initial configuration. Not the best solution, but... Best regards, Fernando Nájera -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cannot use the DEL button
Delete (rename) file Shortcut.CFG in the folder in which you store your mail. This should give you the initial configuration. Not the best solution, but... Yeah! That did it! Now I gotta work on making these new shortcuts which work best for me but look out to not delete the wrong ones :-) Regards Frank Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deleting threads
I've just started using the Bat and am impressed although occasionally I stumble slightly. One of the things I have stumbled on is how to delete a thread. In mailing lists there are often threads that I am not interested in and so I want to delete all the messages in the thread. Even if the thread is collapsed it only deletes the first message in the thread. Can someone help me out? Best Wishes Sharon Best Wishes Sharon Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
Hi Fernando, on Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:41:25 +0100GMT (30.12.02, 19:41 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : FPNC Delete (rename) file Shortcut.CFG in the folder in which you store FPNC your mail. This should give you the initial configuration. Not the FPNC best solution, but... What would be the best? I think, this is a very clean method. And it works - this is what a set to default option should do. Thank you for helping me learn. :-) -- Cheers Peter Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that... Winamp currently playing: Strawbs - Part Of The Union Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 30, 2002, Sharon Stiles wrote... Even if the thread is collapsed it only deletes the first message in the thread. Can someone help me out? There is probably a key combination somewhere, or at least you can set one up, but by mouse, you can right click on the thread, and go to Thread - Delete. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPhCq+CuD6BT4/R9zEQJB5ACcD6CV4Yc9vrLjDg4p2vw0yv6mfOkAoPz1 bSuz7K2RptkfwsGe6UrxOPcA =Ku8U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting threads
Hi Sharon, on Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:06:03 +GMT (30.12.02, 21:06 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : SS One of the things I have stumbled on is how to delete a thread. Have you tried right click -- Thread -- delete (shift+ctrl+del)? -- Cheers Peter Up is, by definition, the direction which broadens horizons. A. Cygni Winamp currently playing: Gary Hoey - Wipeout Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
WEIRD printing error...
Printed some messages today. Then TB stopped printing properly and would only print a single page that said Invalid HTML! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access Violation at address xxx in module thebat.exe. Read of address yyy. This would occur with any message and NONE of it was html mail. Closed TB and started it again. Back to normal. Very weird... jon -- Jonathan Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! POP Drop Locks
Hello Jonathan, Friday, December 27, 2002, 11:24:42 AM, you wrote: KR Is there a way I can monitor the communications with the server KR to determine what exactly is going on? http://www.ethereal.com/ http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/ JA Nice little program that is... quite scary to really see how much data JA you send about on the internet in plain text ;) I use it at work for JA testing, and analysis. Are there any suggestions how to learn to follow the output it provides? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! POP Drop Locks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 30, 2002, Adam wrote... KR Is there a way I can monitor the communications with the server KR to determine what exactly is going on? http://www.ethereal.com/ JA Nice little program that is... quite scary to really see how much JA data you send about on the internet in plain text ;) I use it at JA work for testing, and analysis. Are there any suggestions how to learn to follow the output it provides? http://www.ethereal.com/docs/user-guide/ That'll give you an idea how to use the program... but an easy start would be to read the part on how to filter the capture of packets, and limit it to only POP connections (tcp port 110), and try working out what is going on. If you want a full example, you're more than welcome to take this to TBOT :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPhC9uSuD6BT4/R9zEQJYHQCghSG2cRAx8dE4JO1sRPzjgd7PJgQAoPHu nJUEmGguz2uE38IAzOM0mFfx =QN4Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WEIRD printing error...
Hello, j Printed some messages today. Then TB stopped printing properly and would only j print a single page that said Invalid HTML! Please forward this message to j developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access Violation at address xxx in module j thebat.exe. Read of address yyy. This would occur with any message and j NONE of it was html mail. I've had the same thing happen too, but I wasn't printing anything. I was simply looking at the messages. It would display that screen no matter what email I was looking at, and whether it had an HTML part was moot. It wouldn't display plain-text messages. The only workaround I know is to shut down TB and restart it until it happens again. It would be nice if there was a view as plain text anyway option one could use when it refuses to show the HTML due to an exception. Sometimes I'd like to view a message even if the HTML is faulty and the HTML engine can't handle it. I'm a big boy, I can look at HTML source and see what the (most likely spam) message says. Granted this isn't something most people would use...but I'd rather have a semi-convenient option to view a message than no option at all other than restarting the client or saving the messages to a text file and reading it in a different application. j Closed TB and started it again. Back to normal. j Very weird... I think this was introduced with version 1.62 (maybe 1.60 or 1.61?) I'm guessing it'll be fixed in version 2 :) -- Regards, James Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to Mass Export Messages
Hello all, Monday, December 30, 2002, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: Hello marek, question directly to me? :-)) Is it possible to export all message from an account? If it is possible I would like it to stay in the same structure it's in now. easiest way is to use program BackupTheBat.exe, which was developed by Hungarian distributor of The Bat! and it is freeware. You can download it from his website: http://www.thebat.hu/letoltes_backupthebat_e.html -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
FPNC Delete (rename) file Shortcut.CFG in the folder in which you FPNC store your mail. This should give you the initial configuration. FPNC Not the best solution, but... What would be the best? I think, this is a very clean method. And it works - this is what a set to default option should do. I think the best solution should be to be able to place again a shortcut for Del key... I have something for you to try. I think that if you press the . in the numeric pad WITH numlock ON, it represents the del key... I won't try it - I don't want to mess with my shortcuts... But as you have deleted yours... I think this is because if you double-click a shortcut assigned to that key, the modal window shows something as decimal key (I see it in Spanish). If this works it could be documented somewhere... Best regards, Fernando Nájera -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting Office/Filters
Hello, I've just switched to 'The Bat!', and am still exploring all the functions and features of this program. I have a simple question about the 'Sorting Office' (Account Sorting Office/Filters): Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr, but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me out? -- Greetings, Raf Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office/Filters
Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr, but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me out? After you've created the filter, use View menu - Re-filter command. (It will run all defined filters, or classes of filters, though. I'm not sure if it's possible to run just one filter selectively.) .marek jedlinski -- No ads, no nags freeware: http://keynote.prv.pl (KeyNote, PhoneDeck, KookieJar, Oubliette) I've noticed that the press tends to be quite accurate, except when they're writing on a subject I know something about. (Keith F. Lynch) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! feature requests
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 5:01:46 AM, Peter wrote: One line: alt-up or alt-down One page: space bar. GS I'm enthusiastically aware of these keyboard commands. However, GS scrolling *half* a page (instead of a full one) is something I would GS really like to see. I find that scrolling a page at a time makes it GS difficult to maintain context. You're right. But didn't Thomas give the answer (above)? Far from it. Hold alt and press arrowdown as long as you like. That's the answer you give when you don't have an answer. In what other apsects of operation is 10+ key-hits considered a substitute for one? Gavin Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office/Filters
Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr, but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me out? Folder - Re-filter - Click for Incoming Mail. / St Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office/Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, December 30, 2002 Raf Hofmans stated: RH Hello, RH I've just switched to 'The Bat!', and am still exploring all the RH functions and features of this program. Welcome aboard RH Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages RH that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr, Right click on the Inbox folder (or any folder that you want to re-process) and select Re-filter messages. Cheers \\' - -- Running TB! version 1.62 Christmas Edition under Windows 2000 5.0 on a 500mhz P-III wtih 512mb Ram -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPhDm6JbaVbYeHoVgEQLfRACg0kiy7OplBOnRcz/x/BanBvYVPHEAoJsf lu4/zhoMl3VK/41ruGkv0cGr =WJiB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Compose Editor Produces Jumbled Letters
Sue, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Monday, December 30, 2002, 1:43:01 AM, you wrote: S After installing, I opened The Bat and (surprise, surprise!) my S compose screen finally works! It looks and acts exactly the way it is S supposed to. I am writing this message and actually seeing what I'm S typing! So I guess the drivers *were* the culprit after all. Okay... S I'm keeping TB for sure now. ;-) S Thanks everyone for all your help and suggestions! WooHoo!!! Gotta love it when problems get solved! Glad you got it working. ;) -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: [lost 500 messages][27/12/2002-13:59 GMT]
Jonathan, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Monday, December 30, 2002, 12:20:26 AM, you wrote: JC ...even if I could have a volume that large, I wouldn't. The JC defrag time would be horrible. :-/ Only if it was full ;) -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! feature requests
myob, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Monday, December 30, 2002, 11:29:48 AM, you wrote: m Hello Gavin, m Monday, December 30, 2002, 2:30:01 AM, you wrote: GS I'm enthusiastically aware of these keyboard commands. However, GS scrolling *half* a page (instead of a full one) is something I would GS really like to see. I find that scrolling a page at a time makes it GS difficult to maintain context. m I'd support that suggestion too. m Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 m 5.0 Build 2195 m Service Pack 3 I've played with some filters but have done nothing with macros yet in TB!. Could a macro be created to do this? IE: have the macro issue 10 ALT-DOWN ARROW commands? Last time I played with macros was on my old Apple ][gs. ;) It could have done it. hehehe -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! feature requests
I've played with some filters but have done nothing with macros yet in TB!. Could a macro be created to do this? IE: have the macro issue 10 ALT-DOWN ARROW commands? Macroes in TB are not supposed to do that, and I use Macro Magic for such things; http://www.iolo.com (it's for PC). Macroes that deals with tasks like the ones you are mentioning are very fragile. / St Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot use the DEL button
Hello Fernando, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:34:55 +0100 GMT (31/12/02, 05:34 +0700 GMT), Fernando P. Nájera Cano wrote: I have something for you to try. I think that if you press the . in the numeric pad WITH numlock ON, it represents the del key... Should be: with NumLock OFF, right? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...(A)bort, (R)etry, (G)et a beer? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WEIRD printing error...
Hello James, On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:44:28 -0600 GMT (31/12/02, 04:44 +0700 GMT), James Olsen wrote: j EAccessViolation Access Violation at address xxx in module j thebat.exe. Read of address yyy. This would occur with any j message and NONE of it was html mail. I've had the same thing happen too, but I wasn't printing anything. I was simply looking at the messages. Maybe it was the way you were looking? (Hey, this was a joke! :-)) It would display that screen no matter what email I was looking at, and whether it had an HTML part was moot. It wouldn't display plain-text messages. The only workaround I know is to shut down TB and restart it until it happens again. If you viewed the message in a seperate folder view, closing the view folder window would have sufficed. If you were viewing in the preview pane, you can switch from rich text viewer or to plain text viewer (Option / Preferences / Viewer) and back again. It would be nice if there was a view as plain text anyway option one could use when it refuses to show the HTML due to an exception. I have set HTML auto-view off under Options / Preferences / General. Is that what you need? I think this was introduced with version 1.62 (maybe 1.60 or 1.61?) It was introduced with 1.62. I'm guessing it'll be fixed in version 2 :) It is being fixed as we speak. Unless Diman is taking a day off to celebrate New Year's. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Umfriend: Sexual relationship; this is Dale, my ... um ...friend. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! feature requests
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Scott, @30-Dec-2002, 21:11 -0600 (03:11 UK time) Scott Johnson [SJ] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: GS However, scrolling *half* a page (instead of a full one) is GS something I would really like to see. SJ I've played with some filters but have done nothing with macros SJ yet in TB!. Could a macro be created to do this? IE: have the SJ macro issue 10 ALT-DOWN ARROW commands? Sadly, no. Macros in TB are for use in message creation templates only. They're very good at what they do but stop short of affecting the TB interface. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+EQ3KOeQkq5KdzaARAl/sAKCGdZwMHmoRwsoBiEboLOMKW1aSyACfYbcJ stMMl10HdkLgOF4KuYmwbXI= =1O5B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! feature requests
Marck, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Monday, December 30, 2002, 9:23:51 PM, you wrote: MDP Sadly, no. Macros in TB are for use in message creation templates MDP only. They're very good at what they do but stop short of affecting MDP the TB interface. Something for the wish list? ;) -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: WEIRD printing error...
Thomas, *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** === *** Monday, December 30, 2002, 9:33:39 PM, you wrote: TF It is being fixed as we speak. Unless Diman is taking a day off to TF celebrate New Year's. ;-) Ok...1 day to celebrate and another to recuperate. Still pretty good service. ;) -- Scott Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dictionary question
Hi Bat! Fans, I have the international pack installed, and selected British English as the language to use. However the dictionary (From the Edit Mail Message window - Spell Checker / Dictionaries) shows the language as American English' (an oxymoron if I have ever heard of one). (no offense intended). In addition the spell checker does not accept words such as metre (wants to use meter). Metre is the accepted British spelling of this form of measurement. etc. etc. for other words as well. Is there a further setting I must implement to use British English? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 No Purchase Required. Details in package. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
