Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
G'day Allie, Friday, October 17, 2003, 11:08:01 AM, you wrote: snipped confirmation that Spell Checking problem is a known issue BM Then when I hit the Put letter in Outbox button nothing happened. BM The same with the Send the letter button - nothing. Manually BM switching to the Outbox showed my message was there but with the BM draft hourglass symbol displayed. The only way I can convince the BM message to send is to manually click on the Hourglass symbol in the BM outbox to delete the draft status and then send manually. Is this BM the expected behaviour? AM Yes. Drafts cannot be sent unless their draft status is removed. Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the top left of my tool bar. The selection of Message - Send Now or Queue in Outbox also doesn't work for me with the HTML Editor. I didn't really want to send a draft - it was only by changing to the outbox and manually removing the draft status that I could get the message sent. The other editors automatically remove the draft status as soon as you hit the Send command from within the Editor. snipped other comments re Quick Templates not working with HTML Editor I guess that it is pretty clear that The Bat! isn't really ready for use as a HTML client, and personally I have no problem with that. If I had purchased it wanting to use HTML then I would be pretty cheesed off though. Thanks very much for your quick reply. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Language Spell Checking Options in v2.01
G'day TBUDL Members, I recently installed v2.01 over the top of my old 1.62r (as outlined on the RIT Labs site) and find that although I still have the options of both American English and British English above the line under Spell Checker - Language, and still have British English checked as my option; when I select Spell Checker / Dictionaries, it shows the language as American English for both UserDic.TLX and Correct.TLX with no other alternatives available. Under the line which I understand to mean that there is no dictionary available, I have American English (CSAPI), Australian English (my system Language default) and British English listed a second time. I tried re-running The Bat International Pack executable file, even though I have never had to do this on previous 1.6 upgrades but I still am unable to access anything other than American English. Any suggestions on where I am going wrong, or what other settings I might need to change? I think I've looked in all the obvious places but I must be overlooking something. Sorry for bugging the list with all these questions but the Help file for v2 is no more complete or helpful than the old version. -- Bob Mo®®is Friday, 17 October 2003 Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP purging compressing
Hello Jonathan, JA Account, Properties, then Mail Management, then IMAP Fine-Tune then JA check the box compress folders when switching to another folder. Yes, I'm unsure exactly what that does because it has no noticeable effect ... it certainly doesn't purge the folders, which is what I'm after -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Messages Cannot Be Marked Read ??
Hello Thomas, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 7:31:35 PM, you wrote: TF Are you talking about an IMAP or a POP account? It's a POP Account, and I have only about a dozen or so messages that cannot be marked read for some reason. I too have never run into this problem so I'm not sure what to make of it. Of course, the Editors have changed quite a bit from what I was used to before with TB so perhaps fooling around with them has done something. -- Best regards, Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language Spell Checking Options in v2.01
Hello Bob, Friday, October 17, 2003, 12:30:15 AM, you wrote: BM I recently installed v2.01 over the top of my old 1.62r I am v2.00 BM and find that although I still have the options of both American BM English and British English above the line under Spell Checker - BM Language, and still have British English checked as my option; BM when I select Spell Checker / Dictionaries, it shows the language BM as American English for both UserDic.TLX and Correct.TLX with no BM other alternatives available. Same, except I have custom words listed that I added when American English was set. BM Under the line which I understand to mean that there is no BM dictionary available, I have American English (CSAPI), Australian BM English (my system Language default) and British English listed a BM second time. Here I have only British English listed, and none of the custom words. I just checked my system settings and to my surprise American English was selected (fixed now). BM Any suggestions on where I am going wrong, or what other BM settings I might need to change? I think I've looked in all the BM obvious places but I must be overlooking something. Sorry I can't be more help. I just fought this battle with Microsoft Word, and it didn't go down easily. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Block Quote macro
Hi Bat Users, This must have been asked before but after searching the archive and fiddling with it for an hour and not getting any closer can someone please post a revised version of the Block Quote Macro? Thanks. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Courage is a necessary quality in all champions. But an athlete cannot be courageous without first being afraid. Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Glyphs
Hello Allie, Hmmm. I'm impressed. I was longing for the day when such a page would exist. How long has it been around. :) I've known about it for almost 2 years now, but I don't really know how long it has been around. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fixed Width Fonts
Hello Peter, Plain text, pure ASCII, as email was supposed to be. Keep that up! Among other reasons, because there was no other option when e-mail was invented ;-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Base 64 decode in message text.
Hello Allie, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 11:32:03 PM, you wrote: AM David Stone, [DS] wrote: DS I find it's all down to which option for PGP I've selected. I was DS using the PGP *plugin* option (I have 6.5.8 ckt) and if I AM I'm using only TB!'s PGP/MIME options here. The PGP preferences option to Yes I only have TheBats! PGP/MIME option selected. The External PGP (Systray) is deselected. DS But...switching to the *builtin* option then the result is as you say DS it is for you, and as I would want it :)) AM Is the plug-in option that you're referring to, the PGP preferences AM option I mentioned above? No it's TheBats! plug-in option from Tools|OpenPGP|Choose OpenPGP Version. DS However, and this is probably the reason why I switched to using the DS plugin, the builtin option doesn't cache my passphrase. AM For caching passphrases you have to use the PGP preferences. Yes I have the external PGP (Systray) preferences set for caching but I was just decrying that it's not carried over when using the built-in option as it is with the plug-in option. DS Technically I suppose that is the correct thing to do if using PGP AM I'm not sure what you mean by plugin vs builtin options but since you AM have things working, I guess it's not terribly important. :) As above it's the options selectable from Tools|OpenPGP|Choose OpenPGP Version I was referring to. Yes I have it worked out now but I've no doubt that my goldfish like memory will have forgotten it all in 6 months. ;) At least the sun's out! (Note to Marck ; Turned off xray and the email gets through now! Hm!!!) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Block Quote macro
ON Friday, October 17, 2003, 10:03:24 AM, you wrote: G This must have been asked before but after searching the archive and G fiddling with it for an hour and not getting any closer can someone G please post a revised version of the Block Quote Macro? Ok, I just noticed the update on the archive :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Never putt until the cup stops moving. Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
Hi Bob, Whenever I select the scheduler either with ALT F11 or Tools - Scheduler I get a popup warning box The Bat! - Failed to set calendar selected range. After I click on OK the scheduler starts, but the first time I click on each tab in it I receive the same error message. It then seems to run okay until next time I open the Scheduler, when it all happens again. I get the same error if I try to access the Scheduler via SmartBat. Sorry that I have nothing helpful, but I can confirm the problem. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.01 crash burn
Hallo David, On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:07:09 +0100GMT (17-10-03, 0:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DB Incidently, how does one disable an account from the registry? Close TB Open regedit and go to HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Users Depot Here you'll find your accounts listed with the matching directories. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Block Quote macro
Hi Gerard, @17-Oct-2003, 11:26 +0200 (10:26 UK time) Gerard [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Gerard: G This must have been asked before but after searching the archive G and fiddling with it for an hour and not getting any closer can G someone please post a revised version of the Block Quote Macro? G Ok, I just noticed the update on the archive :( The entire Macro Library on the FAQ was updated 2 days ago. It includes the v2 BQ macro. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages Cannot Be Marked Read ??
Hallo Nick, On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:52:32 -0700GMT (17-10-03, 9:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Are you talking about an IMAP or a POP account? NA It's a POP Account, and I have only about a dozen or so messages NA that cannot be marked read for some reason. Are you able to read them? If sop, your messages.tbi file for that folder might be corrupt. I'd suggest deleting that and access the folder again with TB, it should create a new one then and I expect that would take care of the problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this how you do it [PGP]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings John, On Thursday, October 16, 2003, 5:28:58 PM, you wrote: John Is this message signed? It's signed but an attempt to retrieve your public key from all the public servers I have listed here is not a happening thing. Did you upload your public key to a public key server? John I think I got it working, but it seems a little troublesome having to John enter a password for every message you send using it. You should have an option to cache your paraphrase for xxx amount of time. Let's say you set it for an hour (60 minutes) and from the first time you reply and enter your paraphrase every message you reply to within an hour will automatically be signed without having to enter your password. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Never trust a stockbroker who's married to a travel agent. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP4/N3bwi09Hs/j+VEQItpgCgkbVTQH7kOgGty2yyzS/LqiDvzjwAn3j/ 8aZI389wC8ylcDxrg6hR4hWm =qgmh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG Speaking of the editor header fields that appear on the new RG message screen, is there a way to RG a) wrap text for extra long address lines so that you needn't RG scroll left + right to see all the addressees No. RG b) change the display attributes of the header fields (i.e. larger RG fonts, colors, etc)? Yes. You can change the header font and size via Options/Preferences and going to the system tab. The message pane header font controls the editor header fields font. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: working on a pgp merit badge...
Mark Wieder, [MW] wrote: MW Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but the usefulness of MW pgp-signing messages to a listserv somehow eludes me. The listserv MW software doesn't care if it's really you posting, the message is MW widely distributed, and it's publicly accessible on a web server. MW This certainly isn't the proper place to be transmitting sensitive MW information, so what's the point? First, it doesn't affect the messages security if the message is widely distributed. What matters is if the signature verifies and if you trust the public key you used to verify the message signature. In my case, I've been signing all messages to the list. It's the same key that I've been using since I've been signing my messages as moderator. That says a lot for consistency and greatly increases the trust value of the key you use to successfully validate my message signatures. IOW's, it's nigh unto impossible for someone to be impersonating me as moderator all this time. Say for instance, you get a heated message from me off list (not that I'm one to send such a message unless provoked into doing so :) ), a sensitive message, or a moderatorial one and it's signed. If it's verified as being signed using the same key as I've been using to sign all other messages from me to this list, you can be assured that the message was from me and reply to me in kind. :) Otherwise you can never really be sure who sent that message. Could be a prankster impersonating me. If I chose to sign none of the messages to the list and signed only the off-list message, then you still couldn't trust the key used to sign it, would you. The key has only been used once and there's no reason to trust it. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Bob Morris, [BM] wrote: BM Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I BM can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for BM later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the BM other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the BM top left of my tool bar. Ok. I can't duplicate the problem here. :/ -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Block Quote macro
Marck, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003, at 11:32:26 [GMT +0100] (which was 12.32 here in Italy) you wrote: MDP The entire Macro Library on the FAQ was updated 2 days ago. It MDP includes the v2 BQ macro. Marck, I tried to use the bq macro, but what i obtain is only one long line of text and no nice blocks like in your messages, as you can see in the next block sample. Is there some required option I did'nt noticed? ,- [ ] | block blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock block `- regards to you all -- __ Jacopo [Italy] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Block Quote macro
Hi Jacopo, @17-Oct-2003, 14:41 +0200 (13:41 UK time) Jacopo Ognibene [JO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: JO Marck, I tried to use the bq macro, ... Is there some required JO option I did'nt noticed? JO ,- [ ] | block blockblock blockblock blockblock JO blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock blockblock block JO `- You're probably trying to use it with auto-format turned on... no, that doesn't cause an problems. Unless you type a caption with A/F on. ,- [ Here's what I get using the one in the library ] | Marck, I tried to use the bq macro, but what i obtain is only one long | line of text and no nice blocks like in your messages, as you can see | in the next block sample. Is there some required option I did'nt | noticed? `- ,- [ but with autoformat ] | Marck, I tried to use the bq macro, but what i obtain is only one long | line of text and no nice blocks like in your messages, as you can see | in the next block sample. Is there some required option I did'nt | noticed? `- -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Block Quote macro
So, Marck, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003, at 14:02:12 [GMT +0100] (which was 15.02 here in Italy) you wrote: MDP You're probably trying to use it with auto-format turned on... no, MDP that doesn't cause an problems. Unless you type a caption with A/F MDP on. Well, I actually tried any options (A/F off, Autowrap On/Off...) but I got back this again and again: ,- [ ] | Marck, I tried to use the bq macro, but what i obtain is only one long line of text and no nice blocks like in your messages, as you can see in the next block sample. Is there some required option I did'nt noticed? `- Thanks a lot Marck for your reply, but I see no way to use BQ, for instance... I'll use normal quotes, no problem! mybest regards Jacopo -- __ Jacopo [Italy] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Block Quote macro
Hi Jacopo, @17-Oct-2003, 15:20 +0200 (14:20 UK time) Jacopo Ognibene [JO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP You're probably trying to use it with auto-format turned on... MDP no, that doesn't cause an problems. Unless you type a caption MDP with A/F on. ... snip JO Thanks a lot Marck for your reply, but I see no way to use BQ, JO for instance... I'll use normal quotes, no problem! Block quote is not supposed to be used to quote reply text, but to quote example text. Normally, you would copy some text to the clipboard that you want to quote as a special comment in a message or a reply then you would type 'bq' Ctrl-Space to block quote it in real time. Replacing %QUOTES with %QINCLUDE='bq' is not recommended. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP-signed messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed v.2.01, and TB! now displays PGP-signed messages in two different ways. Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing list footer. I initially thought that the latter was unique to the list, but I've seen the normal signed message from the list as well. Anyone know why? Is there anything I can change to standardize on one format or the other? - -- Richard H. Stoddard PGP Request: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x899FEAAB Comment: Fingerprint: 0F58 92FF 24DC B847 9A85 6ED4 9EAF FD46 899F EAAB iQA/AwUBP4+vPJ6v/UaJn+qrEQITiQCgovIPjjv/lWktHEvcG8xvZq8699QAoODj DOUyp/98bnp9p9DB5FWPk2ha =Iw6/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Block Quote macro
Marck, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003, at 14:56:52 [GMT +0100] (which was 15.56 here in Italy) you wrote: JO Thanks a lot Marck for your reply, but I see no way to use BQ, JO for instance... I'll use normal quotes, no problem! MDP Block quote is not supposed to be used to quote reply text, but to MDP quote example text. Normally, you would copy some text to the MDP clipboard that you want to quote as a special comment in a message MDP or a reply then you would type 'bq' Ctrl-Space to block quote it MDP in real time. MDP Replacing %QUOTES with %QINCLUDE='bq' is not recommended. Oops, sorry, my english! What I meant is I'll use normal PASTE, no problem! I Apologize... Jacopo -- __ Jacopo [Italy] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: You do not have a OpenPGP private key. Create it first!
One message: JM You do not have a OpenPGP private key. Create it first! JM How do i create it? V tools | openpgp | openpgp key manager. You need a private key to sign messages. Another message: John Is this message signed? It's signed but an attempt to retrieve your public key from all the public servers I have listed here is not a happening thing. Did you upload your public key to a public key server? FOLLOW UP: I did create my public and private keys as above and now have my public and private keys. QUESTIONS: 1) How do I, by default, start signing all my emails? Is it found at: acct properties | options | sign when completed? 1a) Do I want to do this with ALL by default? 2) Where do I upload the public key 3) Should it be uploaded to multiple public keys servers or do they share keys like DNS servers share name resolution info? Thank you folks. -- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
BM Perhaps I didn't explain too well here. There is no way that I BM can send a message from the HTML Editor, either to my Outbox for BM later despatch or as a request for immediate despatch, unlike the BM other two editors which allow me to use either of the icons at the BM top left of my tool bar. AM Ok. I can't duplicate the problem here. :/ I absolutely CAN confirm the problem. I have even re-installed TB (several times) and it never got better. I CANNOT send (or queue a draft) of any email created with either HTML option selected. Since most of the email I send doesn't call for HTML a fix can be patiently awaited! -- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is that number?
Hello tbudl, The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I can't find an explanation in the on-line help. -- Best regards, Edward Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Messages Cannot Be Marked Read ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, October 17, 2003, 7:31:35 AM, you wrote: TF On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:49:08 -0700 GMT (17/10/2003, 08:49 +0700 TF GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: I'm running into problems with some messages in that I cannot mark them read, no matter how hard I try. The funny thing is that messages all around those few are being marked read when opened/viewed, etc. TF Are you talking about an IMAP or a POP account? TF With a POP account, I have never experienced this problem. I have a POP account and do see it from time to time. I'm using v.2.01, and have set it to mark messages read only after opening in a separate window. Sometimes they aren't marked read after I close them. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. However, I can mark them read using CNTRL-M. - -- Richard H. Stoddard PGP Request: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x899FEAAB Comment: Fingerprint: 0F58 92FF 24DC B847 9A85 6ED4 9EAF FD46 899F EAAB iQA/AwUBP4+y8p6v/UaJn+qrEQIWFACgnAnXAQVYciqEwzhOmDETR8PrPDwAoMN9 lDNXcHKqvHeWWOO+5tGm7ZFi =ia9z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
RHS snip, snip PGP-signed messages snip show RHS the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif -- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is that number?
Hello Edward J. Krall, on 2003-10-17, 16:26, you wrote (at least in part): EJK Hello tbudl, EJK The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is EJK divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning EJK of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I EJK can't find an explanation in the on-line help. The 0 means : 0 messages in this folder. The (5) means: 5 more messages in all its sub-folder(s). -- Kind regards, ouwehand dot net Peter Ouwehand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - Using The Bat! V2.01 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:What is that number?
Edward, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003, at 07:26:49 [GMT -0700] (which was 16.26 here in Italy) you wrote: EJK Hello tbudl, EJK The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is EJK divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning EJK of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I EJK can't find an explanation in the on-line help. It means the number of messages into the subfolders contained in the mail folder. E.g.: Inbox 0 (50) | |---Family 0 (50) | |--- Mamy 20 | |--- Daddy 30 Regards Jacopo -- __ Jacopo [Italy] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fixed Width Fonts
Hi MAU Friday, October 17, 2003, 4:27:50 AM, you wrote: M Among other reasons, because there was no other option when e-mail was M invented ;-)) Hear hear..finally someone who realizes the truth :) Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is that number?
Hello Edward, On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:26:49 -0700 GMT (17/10/2003, 21:26 +0700 GMT), Edward J. Krall wrote: The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I can't find an explanation in the on-line help. It's the number of messages in the subfolders. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Trees that grow in smoggy cities are needed to make carbon paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is that number?
What is the meaning of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I can't find an explanation in the on-line help. It is the total count of messages in all the sub-folders of the given folder, handy if you fold part of the tree. You only see this for folders which have sub-folders. -- Andy Philpotts Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: You do not have a OpenPGP private key. Create it first!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings rich, On Friday, October 17, 2003, 10:20:11 AM, you wrote: rich 2) Where do I upload the public key You can start with ldap://pgp.surfnet.nl:11370 or Upload your public key to your personal website and create a link in your PGP program that appends that location to your PGP sig. Your choice. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Suicide Hotline...please hold. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP5AG0bwi09Hs/j+VEQLg3wCghaqfNJJ1sIYhtmZG44Pe2KSFiJcAn34w OD9eG6Dc1CIF1pcKbeVTSCKy =1mNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
Hello Louis, Friday, October 17, 2003, 12:53:25 PM, you wrote: L Hello TBUDL, Just a test and a mistake. :) -- Best regards, Louismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Hi Richard, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:58:40 +0500GMT (17.10.03, 15:58 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RHS I just installed v.2.01, and TB! now displays PGP-signed messages in RHS two different ways. Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed RHS Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. This is an inline signature that you can get by typing ctrl+shift+S (or menu Privacy -- OpenPGP -- Sign entire text). RHS Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing RHS list footer. This one is achieved by selecting the option Sign when complete - I'm not sure how this kind of sig is called. RHS I initially thought that the latter was unique to the RHS list, but I've seen the normal signed message from the list as well. RHS Anyone know why? Is there anything I can change to standardize on one RHS format or the other? You can standardize the second kind with %USEPGP%SIGNCOMPLETE in your template. -- Cheers Peter The number one cause of computer problems is computer solutions. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fixed Width Fonts
Hello Vishal, Hear hear..finally someone who realizes the truth :) Which doesn't mean that I don't hate HTML e-mail ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Bet.e Stef - Wish you well (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: You do not have a OpenPGP private key. Create it first!
Hi rich, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:20:11 -0400GMT (17.10.03, 16:20 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : rg QUESTIONS: rg 1) How do I, by default, start signing all my emails? Is it rg found at: acct properties | options | sign when completed? Exactly. You can also use the macros %USEPGP%SIGNCOMPLETE in your template(s). rg 1a) Do I want to do this with ALL by default? Probably not, but it's up to you. ;-) That's why the macros in certain templates might be better than the all-account solution. rg 3) Should it be uploaded to multiple public keys servers or do rg they share keys like DNS servers share name resolution info? Most servers synchronize with each other, so surfnet.nl should be sufficient. -- Cheers Peter When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant, I could hardly stand to have the old man around. When I was 21, I was amazed at how much he had learned in seven years. Mark Twain pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rethread Messages Filters
Myotis Mates, From the Macro Library: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rethread+messages I don't seem to be able to make this work properly. Has anyone actually gotten these to work? I have: 1) copied the filters to SmartBat and cleaned them up. I am assuming that no spaces should exist between the lines that wrapped and are being unwrapped. 2) copied the tidied filters to my Sorting Office, and the seem to paste in correctly. Here is what they look like: BeginFilter Name: Add_Reference Active: 1 Source: \\Jim D\Inbox Target: \\Jim D\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faDelMsg,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoHKCheckMsg,faoAdvNoAttach ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORT;F=Inbox;I=C:\Temp\export.msg ExtFile: C:\Temp\export.msg ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49234 IsOfColour: default SaveTemplate: %IF:_%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(?is)(References:.*?\5C)\22%REGEXPMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS\22_\3D__:_%-\0D\0A%IF:#%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(?is)(In-Reply-To:.*?\5C)\22%REGEXPMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS#\3D##:#%-\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT%-\0D\0A#:#%-\0D\0A%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(?is)(.*)\5Cn(In-Reply-To:.*?\5C)\5Cn(.*)\22%-\0D\0A%REGEXPBLINDMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS\22%SUBPATT\3D\221\22\0D\0A%SUBPATT\3D\223\22\0D\0A%TEXT%-\0D\0A#_:_\0D\0A%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(?is)(.*)\5Cn(References:.*?\5C)\5Cn(.*)\22%-\0D\0A%REGEXPBLINDMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS\22%SUBPATT\3D\221\22\0D\0A%SUBPATT\3D\223\22\0D\0A%TEXT_%-\0D\0A\0D\0A EndFilter BeginFilter Name: Remove_Reference Active: 1 Source: \\Jim D\Inbox Target: \\Jim D\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00@ Actions: faDelMsg,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORT;F=Inbox;I=C:\Temp\export.msg ExtFile: C:\Temp\export.msg ColourGroup: default HotKey: 57426 IsOfColour: default SaveTemplate: %SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(.*\5Cn?)(In-Reply-To:?)|(References:?)\22%-\0D\0A%REGEXPBLINDMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS\22%subpatt\3D\221\22%-\0D\0A%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22(?is)(.*\5Cn?)(In-Reply-To:|References:)[^:]*?\5Cn%-\0D\0A([\5Cw\5Cd\5C-]*:\20.*)\5Cn\22%REGEXPBLINDMATCH\3D\22%HEADERS\22%subpatt\3D\223\22%-\0D\0A%TEXT%-\0D\0A EndFilter So when I find an orphaned message, I find the message it should be threaded with, and copy that message's ID to the clipboard (CTRL-C). Then I select the orphan and hit CTRL-ALT-R. The message disappears from that folder and shows up in my Inbox. When I drag that message back to the folder, it does not thread. When I use the second filter, it deletes the message and a new message appears in the Inbox...with no headers at all, apparently. Help? -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- It does not do well to dream, Harry, and forget to live. - Dumbledoor --- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this how you do it [PGP]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, On Oct 16, 2003, 16:28 -0500 ( 5:28 PM here), John Morse [JM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JM Is this message signed? I think I got it working, but it seems a JM little troublesome having to enter a password for every message JM you send using it. Signature looks good here. gpg: Signature made 10/16/03 17:28:58 Eastern Daylight Time using DSA key ID 514131D3 gpg: Good signature from John Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you check the store passphrase button, all the data should be pre-entered for you next time around. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.01 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/kCq1RbTFvUNHmLkRAkMjAKCqTAtoHMypZzi2WCD4RuSUf0PNBgCdFkUo 8ydxG6vki1nlD8ZDu62qUJA= =eLKH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
Hello all, I'm trying to set up some PowerPro buttons (macros) to easily select to view messages in different Colour Groups and change between them. The needed keyboard sequence is simple up to a point: View (Alt+V) Display (D) Advance filtering... (v) Color group is: (tab 13 times) Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick box just using the keyboard? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Europa - Sweet November Rain (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rethread Messages Filters
Hello Jim, From the Macro Library: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rethread+messages I don't seem to be able to make this work properly. Has anyone actually gotten these to work? I never tried because I use my own manual re-thread macro (PowerPro macro). In case you want to try, see: http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Kenny G - Malibu Dreams (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
Reply to message sent 10/17/2003, @ 20:03:49 (1:03 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Mau, Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick box just using the keyboard? Space. -- ò.ó Nick Danger Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
M Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick M box just using the keyboard? space bar -- Rick Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:03:49 +0200, MAU wrote I'm trying to set up some PowerPro buttons (macros) to easily select to view messages in different Colour Groups and change between them. Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick box just using the keyboard? The spacebar should toggle it. Patrick G.-- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
Hello Nick, Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick box just using the keyboard? Space. Thank you, thank you, thank you :-))) I tried many keys and combinations but never thought about space. This seems to be a Windows standard, right? I owe you 2 or 7 beers :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Chris Botti - The Way Home (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: working on a pgp merit badge...
Allie- So... um... it's possible to fake a PGP-signing? If I can't trust an authorization after PGP has verified it, what good is it? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
Hello Rick, M Now, once here, how the heck can I select (put a check mark in) this tick M box just using the keyboard? space bar Thanks. I have already seen Nick's reply. I guess you can tell I'm a mouse oriented user. Otherwise I would have known, right? Actually, because I'm mouse oriented is why I want to set up these PowerPro buttons. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Dave Brubeck Quartet - Kathy's Waltz (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Advanced filtering... how to select a tick box with keyboard?
Hello P, The spacebar should toggle it. Yes, it certainly does. Like I said in another reply, I guess I should have known this if I was not such mouse oriented users. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01 Winamp PLAYING: Tuck and Patti - Mad Mad Me (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Question about junk mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 V2.01 allows you to mark messages as junk. I don't have an anti-spam plug-in, so I get the message that there is no plug-in with learning facilities installed. I don't really need to install anything to deal with spam because my ISP's spam filters catch about 99% of it. (Maybe five a week slip through, and I've just been adding them to my junk filter. (I rarely get a repeat from an address, but the filter has caught a couple along with advertisements from more legitimate companies.)) Will marking something as junk in TB! catch a repeat from a particular sender even if there is no spam plug-in installed? If so, that would save me the minute or two that it takes to add them to a filer. - -- Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x899FEAAB Comment: Fingerprint: 0F58 92FF 24DC B847 9A85 6ED4 9EAF FD46 899F EAAB iQA/AwUBP4/y356v/UaJn+qrEQJ+FwCgjcTWSRDAvuTjSgHHJ1jYAmZtEWcAoNg1 i2SfJE2Fjt45j4Thjr8AMs7B =Th8d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about junk mail
Hello Richard, Friday, October 17, 2003, 7:47:13 PM, you wrote: RHS Will marking something as junk in TB! catch a repeat from RHS a particular sender even if there is no spam plug-in installed? No, marking something as Junk with no spam plugin does absolutely nothing. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
Bob, On Thursday, October 16, 2003, 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Whenever I select the scheduler either with ALT F11 or Tools B - Scheduler I get a popup warning box The Bat! - Failed to set B calendar selected range. After I click on OK the scheduler B starts, but the first time I click on each tab in it I receive the B same error message. I was just about to report the same error message. Very annoying. Does your scheduler work ok otherwise? -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 10/17/2003 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: working on a pgp merit badge...
Hello Mark, On 17 October 2003, at 11:38:41 (GMT -0700) you wrote: MW it's possible to fake a PGP-signing? If I can't trust an MW authorization after PGP has verified it, what good is it? As I know, to crack a PGP-sign (and as an cipher-text) it is almost impossible. I would say if your program successfully authorized the PGP-sign then you may trust on 98% that this is true sign. Remaining 2% is if your sign will be cracked by some very skilled cryptoanalyzer :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
On Friday, October 17, 2003 at 10:35:27 AM, rich gregory wrote in the message PGP-signed messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif Are you using custom glyphs? What is your color depth? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. To define recursion, we must first define recursion. Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Friday, October 17, 2003, Richard H. Stoddard wrote: Some show the standard Begin/End PGP Signed Message, along with the icon in the upper right to verify/decrypt. Others just show the icon, and have a text attachment with the mailing list footer. snip Anyone know why? The latter are done with PGP/MIME whereas the previous are not. PGP/MIME is not unique to the list, but it will not work with TB 1.63 or dysfunctional pieces of software (i.e. Outlook). -- Urban The skeleton is what is left after the insides have been taken out and the outsides have ben taken off. The purpose of the skeleton is something to hitch meat to. Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is that number?
EJK The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! EJK window is divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. EJK What is the meaning of a number in angle brackets in the Total EJK column, such as, 0 5? I can't find an explanation in the EJK on-line help. PO The 0 means : 0 messages in this folder. PO The (5) means: 5 more messages in all its sub-folder(s). This is for POP service, I think. On my IMAP account, the numbers are shown in angle brackets, eg. 150 30, and there are no subfolders. Hugh Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is that number?
Hello Andy, On Oct 17, 2003, 11:05 -0400 (10:05 AM CDT) you [A] typed: A It is the total count of messages in all the sub-folders of the given A folder, handy if you fold part of the tree. You only see this for A folders which have sub-folders. The question was about *angle* brackets, which appear once in a while in a folder tree of an IMAP account (at least for me). I'm curious about a meaning of those myself. -- Sergey Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encrypt when completed - NO any reaction
Hello TBUDL, I use PGP of version 8.0.2. And when I check menu option Encrypt when completed in the editor of my TB! then no reaction while I try to send mail in the Outbox. If I additionally check menu option Sign when completed then all OK - mail encrypted/signed and send to Outbox. Why it's not possible only encrypt message without signing? -- Best regards, Vasiliy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: working on a pgp merit badge...
Mark Wieder, [MW] wrote: MW So... um... it's possible to fake a PGP-signing? It's not really a matter of faking a signature. OK. The imposter creates a key and signs a message that contains one of my signatures. The from header also says the message is from me. I've never signed a message to this list and you proceed to verify the signature, PGP looks up the key on the keyserver and downloads it. The signature verifies as good meaning that the message hasn't been tampered with. The other vital question you need to answer is if the signature you verified was really created by a key that *I* signed with and not, instead, an imposter who simply created a key to do his evil deed. OTOH, take the current situation. I sign all my messages to the list. Everyone gets a chance, if they so choose to verify my signatures using the public key I make available via the keyservers and via the URL in my signature. You have over 2 years of messages consistently signed using the same key. The imposter who *cannot* sign with my key unless he has access to my machine and my passphrase, decides to try to impersonate me. He tries by sending a message without signing. Immediately the list members get suspicious. He sees that this will not work. He therefore signs the message. You now attempt to verify and note that PGP begins looking up a key. Alarm bells ring again since you already have my public key on your keyring. PGP shouldn't be looking for my public key. Some other key was used to sign. Again, alarm bells go off. I'll be away all of next week while I attend a conference. I'll not be able to tell you that a message seemingly from me was not in fact from me. However, I have no worries that I will be successfully impersonated. Why? I've been signing all my messages and any new ones may be verified. It doesn't matter that I'm really 'The Dude', Allie Martin from Jamaica that I claim I am. What does matter is that I'm the person who has been signing with the same key for years on this list and I've been playing moderator with said name. My key is therefore as trustworthy as it could get for the purposes of this list with regards to establishing who I am, a moderator who calls himself Allie Martin. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2.01 - Problems Using HTML Editor
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG I absolutely CAN confirm the problem. Ok. I can't so we're likely doing things differently or use different settings. Currently, I'm using MicroEd as my default editor. I tend to just open a new message, fill in the To: and Subject: headers, tab into the message body field and then switch editors to HTML only. I type a few words and then put in the Outbox or save as draft. Both work. I then tried using the HTML/Plain Text option for formatting. Again, no problem putting the message in the outbox or saving as draft. I then changed from using MicroEd as my default editor and changed to the Plain Text (Windows) editor. I did this because I noted that you seem to use the Plain Text (Windows) editor as your default. I then tried the same things with HTML formatted messages. Again, I can save as draft or send to outbox for sending. I'm using the Rich Text Viewer as my default viewer. I'm also using no plug-ins (plug-ins seem to interfere in unexpected ways at times so I thought I'd mention that). RG I have even re-installed TB (several times) and it never got better. If you reapply the same settings then the bug will just resurface. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP-signed messages
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG Geez, so THAT'S what that really ugly icon is. RG http://mudshark.com/PGPicon.gif Ouch! The icons should look like this: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/sigicons.png The top icon is the unverified signature. The middle icon shows up when the signature is bad. I got that for Peter's reply to you. The bottom icon shows up when the signature verifies as good. They're quite nice looking actually. :) I'm not quite sure why you're seeing what you're seeing. Screen corruption? Display adapter/driver issue? Using custom glyphs? -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
memo-field data storage
Hello TBUDL, probably all of you know a .TBB file is used to store email msgs (with some additional info) and a .TBI file is used as an indexing file for the .TBB file. As sometimes a message base goes south, it is often advised to delete the .TBI file and let TB! recreate it, which often seems to help. Now, in case you use memo fields (control+shift+i) to add whatever comment to a msg, be aware that deleting a .TBI file will also wipe all memos you ever added to the corresponding email, as memos are stored in the .TBI file. Suggestion to ritlabs: Store such additional data into a seperate file (.TBX ..?), probably using the original msgs ID to link it to the corresponding email. Then, in case the .TBI file is recreated, emails and memos can be recovered correctly. -- Kind regards, ouwehand dot net Peter Ouwehand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - Using The Bat! V2.01 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is that number?
Edward J. Krall, [EJK] wrote: EJK The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is EJK divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning EJK of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I EJK can't find an explanation in the on-line help. It's the total number of messages within the sub-folders for the folder which those totals are being defined. So if you see for example 1237 (285), this means that the folder contains 1237 messages but there are also sub-folders there that contain a total of 285 messages. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encrypt when completed - NO any reaction
Vasiliy Efimenko, [VE] wrote: VE I use PGP of version 8.0.2. And when I check menu option Encrypt VE when completed in the editor of my TB! then no reaction while I try VE to send mail in the Outbox. If I additionally check menu option VE Sign when completed then all OK - mail encrypted/signed and send VE to Outbox. Why it's not possible only encrypt message without VE signing? Just tried it and it works here. Sorry that I can't duplicate the problem. :/ -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
transferring TB to new PC?
Hi All, My laptop crased and I'm trying to put TB on my new PC...accounts, emails and all. I installed the latest trial version of TB on my PC and then copied over the new Mail folder with my old Mail folder (containing all my emails, accounts, etc.). But nothing happened? When I open TB I only see the one test account I had to set up when installing. Any suggestions? Much appreciated! Eddie Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is that number?
Dear Allie, On Friday, October 17, 2003, 6:57:51 PM, you wrote: AM Edward J. Krall, [EJK] wrote: EJK The folder-tree pane on the upper left side of the The Bat! window is EJK divided into three columns: Name, Unread and Total. What is the meaning EJK of a number in angle brackets in the Total column, such as, 0 5? I EJK can't find an explanation in the on-line help. AM It's the total number of messages within the sub-folders for the folder AM which those totals are being defined. AM So if you see for example 1237 (285), this means that the folder AM contains 1237 messages but there are also sub-folders there that contain AM a total of 285 messages. I have received a number of suggestions of what the number is. But it still is not clear. Here is a picture of The Bat! at this very minute. These folders are subfolders of my account, and have no subfolders. In the picture, X represents an icon. Note the number is 6, not (6). NameUnread Total -X MyAccountName 8 |-X Inbox0 6 |-X Outbox 0 |-X Sent Mail2 +-X Trash0 X Common Folders here with a total of 307 messages. System information: I am using Pop3 at home with The Bat!, but the account is really an Exchange account at work, which I read with Microsoft Outlook. The Message Dispatcher shows 15 messages, with all marked Read and one also marked Delete. I execute the Dispatcher and the one message is deleted. But the folder tree does not change, nor is there any change in the six messages in Inbox. I PurgeCompress ... no change. I am confused. Ed _ | Edward J. Krall | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 10838 North 110 Place | (480) 614-0423 | | Scottsdale, AZ 85259 | | |___|_| Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: transferring TB to new PC?
Hello Q179, On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:07:31 EDT GMT (18/10/2003, 09:07 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But nothing happened? When I open TB I only see the one test account I had to set up when installing. Any suggestions? Try shift-ctrl-alt-L. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Mothers all want their sons to grow up to be President, but they don't want them to become politicians in the process. (John F. Kennedy) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP Key page, check please
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello The_Bat! Users, I uploaded my PGP key to my server. (How do you like that script that auto copies the key to your clipboard... sweet huh!) Any way if anyone wants to try it and let me know if they have any problems, I'd appreciate it. Special Thanks to those of you that helped ;) - -- John Morse My Public PGP Key Can Be Found Here http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmmorse/pgp.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk 2.0.1 Copyright (C) 2000 Networks Associates Technology, Inc. All rights reserved. iQA/AwUBP5DGIWDExQtRQTHTEQIVVgCfT5wlTFCuaTbarWNeVS0Lq3dhrfgAoMTz ydyw1hmf2RI7EVsRK5dRcUxJ =sSEO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP Key page, check please
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, Friday, October 17, 2003, 9:48:52 PM, you wrote: JM(How do you like that script that auto copies the key to your JMclipboard... sweet huh!) JMAny way if anyone wants to try it and let me know if they have any JMproblems, I'd appreciate it. Cool. You didn't sign the web page though. Is that important? ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] PGP Signature Status: good ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Hash: SHA1 ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Signer: John Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Signer Key ID: 0x514131D3 ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Signer Key Fingerprint: 315A 8DB7 8106 B005 CC2F DE3E 60C4 C50B 5141 31D3 ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Signer Key Status: Invalid ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Signed: 17/10/03 21:48:33 ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] Verified: 17/10/03 22:39:26 ***[17/10/03 22:39:26] BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** - -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP5DS1vTKQBm9muNPEQKmGgCcDBZoCy2jMKkZ5Pi7WaPnvwmR2HAAn2KJ X2hTIg9eFYjlDTugk1syMlxn =EaTO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: transferring TB to new PC?
Hi Q179, on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:07:31 EDTGMT (18.10.03, 04:07 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Qac My laptop crased and I'm trying to put TB on my new PC...accounts, emails and Qac all. Qac I installed the latest trial version of TB on my PC and then copied over the Qac new Mail folder with my old Mail folder (containing all my emails, Qac accounts, etc.). Qac But nothing happened? When I open TB I only see the one test account I had Qac to set up when installing. You need to copy your laptop's registry key (hkey_current_user\software\rit) to your PC too, because that is where the account structure is stored. -- Cheers Peter The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe !! Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
