Re: Slash zero?
Hello rich, Sunday, February 15, 2004, 11:02:41 PM, you wrote: rg Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash rg zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? I suppose finding a rg suitable font and switching all my programs to use it as a default rg could be the answer, but I have yet to come across one. Try Terminal. It is on of the MS System fonts, so it should be on any Windows machine. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BayesIt! 0.4gm Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Slash zero?
rg Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash rg zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? I suppose finding a rg suitable font and switching all my programs to use it as a default rg could be the answer, but I have yet to come across one. SF Try Terminal. SF one of the MS System fonts should be on any Windows machine. Interesting... The first place I tried that font (since I was already in email) was TB! but (though that font seems to be on my system) it is not available in applications! I saw (in a tiny texst editor program) that it *does* display a slash zero on screen *BUT* it still seems to print a standard zero. -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slash zero?
Hello rich, Monday, February 16, 2004, 1:32:43 AM, you wrote: rg I saw (in a tiny texst editor program) that it *does* display a rg slash zero on screen *BUT* it still seems to print a standard rg zero. I have set Notepad to use Terminal. It displays and prints the slash 0. On another installation though the same font printed zeros with a dot in the centre. It might be a question to ask in comp.fonts -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BayesIt! 0.4gm Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
Hi John, I wonder if TB can ever cause (or be related to some other software that causes) recurrent BSODs (Blue Screen of Deaths). It seems to cause BSODs here. I had that happen recently on both Win2K and WinXP (I have a triple boot system, with Fedora Core 1 also). Resolution below. snipped Microsoft talks a reference in a Microsoft document about some `system software' occasionally causing this error. Microsoft's so helpful. :) But it's hard to believe it's hardware itself. I've been running happily on the same hardware configuration for 3 years. Also I've desperately replaced boards, checked disk memory over and over anyway - no fix. Have you checked for BIOS updates for your mobo? Driver updates for your NIC? I'm sure you have, but just checking in case. :) My problem turned out to be a bad stick of RAM. My RAM was fine during the normal boot-up system check and even worked fine when I moved/swapped the sticks around, but I never thought to stress test each individual stick. I'd just boot up and determine that it was okay. I finally found it when I ran the DocMemory memory testing software. It's currently free and performs a series of tests on the memory. The stick of RAM that was bad passed preliminary tests but failed the more complex ones. http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/docinfo.asp I removed the stick and no more BSODs. MY internet is a bit more flakey on W2K than Linux also, but I did change the NIC from a board to an in-built SuperMicro NIC, using a different driver. I agree with Allie's reasoning on the issue - TB!'s just bringing to light an issue with something else. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB WINE ..
Hi John, I understand it's possible to run TB using the WINE code on Linux systems. What is the general verdict on how well this works? I have run TB! under Fedora Core 1 using Crossover Office. I've seen it mentioned that TB! has run under WINE as well. There are compatibility problems with Prelinking and Exec Shield in both WINE and Crossover Office that require certain default system options be changed. Once I changed the options, I was able to operate TB! with only minor annoyances - connection center displays a blank screen, but it works and I cannot minimize TB! to the tray. If I do, it goes away and I can't retrieve it. I haven't spent much time playing with TB! as my FC1 install has very much been a play with it until I break it kind of thing. I was waiting for FC2 with the 2.6 kernel to come out so I could do a clean install of everything and then test TB! out again. If I remember correctly, certain functions such as SmartBat didn't work as well. Like I said, though, I've broken a lot of things and that may be why. My goal is to get a working copy of TB! with a shared e-mail directory on all three systems (triple boot - W2k, WinXP and FC1). I've already accomplished that with Thunderbird. But Thunderbird isn't TB! It's a shame that it doesn't seem like there's any interest at Ritlabs to develop a Linux version. I've used all the MUAs I could find on Linux and none comes close to TB!. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB WINE ..
On Monday, February 16, 2004, 11:08:27 AM, Terry wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] T I have run TB! under Fedora Core 1 using Crossover Office. I've seen T it mentioned that TB! has run under WINE as well. It certainly runs under Win4Lin as my other half tried that with Xandros before he installed CrossOver Office. T I was able to operate TB! with only minor annoyances - T connection center displays a blank screen, but it works and I T cannot minimize TB! to the tray. If I do, it goes away and I T can't retrieve it. Connection Centre under this version ( v2.04 RC/3 ) will not always hide itself, then after using the program for a while it works normally - go figure! ;-) Under Xandros it minimizes fine to taskbar and shows in systray - despite the option to not show on taskbar and only in systray being ticked! T If I remember correctly, certain functions such as SmartBat T didn't work as well. Seems to work OK under Xandros - though I admit to not using this very much anyhow. T My goal is to get a working copy of TB! with a shared e-mail T directory on all three systems (triple boot - W2k, WinXP and T FC1). This should work well if the mail directory is held on one of the Windows partitions but I don't know if it will under Fedora on a Linux partition - does Fedora have the option to let Windows see shares like Xandros does? T I've already accomplished that with Thunderbird. But T Thunderbird isn't TB! A so where did you put the mail directory...? Thunderbird isn't bad per se - it's a good replacement for those who are used to OE and want something simple. It lacks a Dispatcher - which I did suggest a year ago, and the suggestion was poo-pooed by the Thunderbird forum - they really couldn't see the need/use for one! sigh T It's a shame that it doesn't seem like there's any interest at Ritlabs T to develop a Linux version. I've used all the MUAs I could find on T Linux and none comes close to TB!. Hear! Hear! Although Sylpheed Claws would be my choice if I had to use a mailer other than TB! under Linux. I suspect if further discussion is wanted on this it'd better go to TBOT - where there's been some interesting discussions about running TB! under Linux of late. I think I've set the follow up to this to TBOT - if I've mushed it, sorry mods! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux user #345132 Flying high with The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 on Xandros 2.0 Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slash zero?
Hello bats, on Mon, 16. Feb 2004 at 02:02:41 -0500 rich gregory wrote: r Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash r zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? r I suppose finding a suitable font and switching all my programs to r use it as a default could be the answer, but I have yet to come across r one. Bitstream Vera Sans Mono :) Allie posted this link for that (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): http://www.december14.net/bin/VeraSansMono.zip -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
(To the moderators: If you feel this message is more appropriate for another thebat list, feel free to send along. I only belong to this list as the present time. I do know about tbbeta, but, as of yet, have not subscribed. Thanks in advance.) Curiosity question here ... from time to time, my Firewall (Sygate Personal Firewall) gives me an informational/warning message that reads: D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail to see more information (which I do look at every time ... unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily cut and paste) Do you want to allow it to access the network? Of course, I always allow the bat to access the network so I can get my mail ;-)) ... especially from this list! I have experienced no problems in doing so ... yet. I'm just curious if something is going on in the background re: the bat automatically making changes, or whatever it might be, that would cause such a message to be generated by my firewall software. Is there perhaps some polling/pushing/pulling activity going on in the background between thebat.exe and its home base, ala virus checkers, i.e., avast!, et al, that potentially could result in changes? Checksum calculations? that would cause such a message to be displayed. Or should I be looking for other unknowns. Virus, trojan, malware, spyware software supposedly all up to date, but we know their databases are sort of an after the fact thing. Has anyone else experienced this type of notification re: thebat.exe Thanks in advance. -- Dirigo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
On Monday, February 16, 2004, 4:40:58 PM, Dirigo wrote: D Has anyone else experienced this type of notification re: D thebat.exe Only after installing a new version of TB. -- Deborah It's all fun games until someone loses an eye. Then it's sport. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
Hello Dirigo, Monday, February 16, 2004, 4:40:58 PM, you wrote: D Has anyone else experienced this type of notification re: thebat.exe I'm using the latest version of Sygate Personal Firewall (freeware version), and have not experienced these kinds of problems. The only time I'm ever told that The Bat! has changed is if I update The Bat! to a new version. -- Best regards, Philipmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
Hi Dirigo, on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:40:58 -0500GMT, you wrote: D Curiosity question here ... from time to time, my Firewall (Sygate D Personal Firewall) gives me an informational/warning message that D reads: D D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used D it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail D to see more information (which I do look at every time ... D unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily cut and paste) D Do you want to allow it to access the network? I'm using Kerio PF and have this happening from time to time, too. Except after changing the actual (beta)exe, where it is appropriate, it happens when I use the F11 or alt+F2 shortcuts. I suspect it might have to do with proxy servers, as it only happens since I installed K9 for spam filtering and MyGate for newsgroups. When I only fetch mail for one account, no warning appears, although the other accounts are being checked too (due to time settings), so I can't explain this behaviour. -- Cheers Peter Smash forehead on keyboard to continue. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
Hello Dirigo, Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:40:58 AM, you wrote: ... snip ... D D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used D it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail D to see more information (which I do look at every time ... D unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily cut and paste) D Do you want to allow it to access the network? ... snip ... I use TinyFirewall 5.5 and it has a similar checksum feature but it only alerted once after I upgraded to a later build of SecureBat Lite. It might be that after your last update the application of the new checksum to your existing firewall entry did not stick, so it is comparing your very old checksum that it has in its config against the checksum of the version you might have updated weeks or months ago and sees it as new. You might want to consider the possibility of going into your Firewall management program and deleting its entry for TheBat! and letting it recreate a new up-to-date entry based on your current executable of TheBat! Hope this helps -- Best regards, Dan Perez San Diego CA pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi TBUDL, I wonder if TB can ever cause (or be related to some other software that causes) recurrent BSODs (Blue Screen of Deaths). It seems to cause BSODs here. They happen, if I'm trying to work, every 2-5 minutes. Previously I had a very stable SuperMicro Dual CPU W2K system. I'm going to have to re-install or go back to a previous registry state, I guess. Meanwhile I boot to Linux, where's there's no TB. However - the BSODs do NOT happen, if I DON't use The Bat!!! The point of this message is... I don't think it's The Bat. I use my machine 12-16 hours a day, and run TB constantly, along with a ton of other software. I've even managed to continue writing code for the past month without having to reboot or even restart explorer. \\IO has been up for: 31 day(s), 20 hour(s), 59 minute(s), 22 second(s) I use TB 2.01.26 with 122,886 messages in 6 accounts currently. This machine is a carefully constructed development machine with parts a gamer type would call me an idiot for buying, such as ECC memory. It's been up since I bought it and got past the initial setup processes. My previous machine, with the same software was not this stable, and never was in the 4 years using it. I could never find a definitive source of the warts, but made some guesses and addressed those possible areas of concern with my next machine purchase. Of course, no one could quantify the problem but me. The user of the machine is much more qualified to know what is going on. It's like your body, doctors really don't know as much as an intelligent person about their own body. :p I can tell you what I know of my previous machines, but you probably do not have the same hardware. My old system was AMD/VIA K7V with Mushkin, non-ECC memory, Creative SB Live platinum, GeForce 2 MX. Once I fixed the Creative's major problems by finally finding the kx-project drivers, I suspected the problems I was still seeing were due to AMD/VIA or Mushkin memory problems. Of course, many may see AMD/VIA and instantly tell me all this stuff I need to do, but that is very old news to me, implemented and greatly improving things,... years ago. Last year my old machine was what most would consider acceptable. In fact, they might be angry I would find problems with it. Regardless, I made my next machine a 6 layer PCB on an Intel 875PBZ board, stopped using Creative forever and got an M-Audio revolution. Got Intel approved, CMTL passed and certified ECC memory, with Samsung chips, double sided DDR, 512x4. The result is a machine that runs everything my old machine did with more stability and less worry. I leave 20 applications open all the time, I doubled my task bar size, and have finally found something I have been seeking for many years. \\IO has been up for: 31 day(s), 21 hour(s), 21 minute(s), 2 second(s) P.S. My old machine runs Debian now. I first used Windows in 1999. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slash zero?
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rg Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash rg zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? I suppose finding a rg suitable font and switching all my programs to use it as a default rg could be the answer, but I have yet to come across one. SF Try Terminal. SF one of the MS System fonts should be on any Windows machine. Interesting... The first place I tried that font (since I was already in email) was TB! but (though that font seems to be on my system) it is not available in applications! It is, but the application needs to allow you to select it. There are a few different types of font formats in Windows, and some applications, to my annoyance as well, do not let you select from every type. When I encountered this problem with TB, I found the best alternative to my usual font was Bitstream Vera Sans Mono. I use it at 10pt for viewing source, and 12pt for editing. This is a monospaced font that looks like a variable-width sans-serif font (Trebuchet/Tahoma-ish). It also uses a dot-zero, which is similar to a slash-zero. http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/ Elsewhere, I use Raize and that implements a slash-zero. I would use it in TB if allowed. I consider this a TB bug, but no one seems to care much. http://www.raize.com/DevTools/Tools/RzFont.htm I saw (in a tiny texst editor program) that it *does* display a slash zero on screen *BUT* it still seems to print a standard zero. The font used for printing is, often configurably, different from the font used for display on screen. The application should allow you to select a font for display and a font for printing, or at the very least use the same for printing that it uses for display. UltraEdit allow this configurability iirc, though I must say I explicitly avoid owning a printer and encumber myself for this strange ideal. I'd say your least annoying and most practical option is to find a truetype/opentype format font which implements the slash zero you seek. -- kaishaku.reply-to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB - BSODs
On Monday, February 16, 2004, 5:29:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tko I use TB 2.01.26 with 122,886 messages in 6 accounts currently. Did you add up the messages in your accounts yourself, or is there a way to find the total within TB? -- Deborah Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
Hello, Monday, February 16, 2004, 5:19:48 PM, you wrote: DP Hello Dirigo, DP Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:40:58 AM, you wrote: DP ... snip ... D D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used D it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail D to see more information (which I do look at every time ... D unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily cut and paste) Yes happens to me virtually on a daily basis now using Kerio PFW 215. I'd put it down to a windows thing :( and was on my long list of things that always happen to me. When each account starts polling the POP3 they seem to arrive. Three of them each time requiring a click on yes. Then it just carries on as normal. Although when it's really bad I have to shut The BAt! and restart it. I'd thought it might be to do with the ports changing as each account checks it's email. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
D ... from time to time, my Firewall (Sygate Personal Firewall) gives D me an informational/warning message that reads: D ... thebat has changed since the last time you used it ... Zone Alarm has done this as well, but with apps (other than TB!) that (like in your case) were not reinstalled. I'd tell ZA over and over again that such-and-such.exe had *not* changed and was to be allowed unfettered access to the world but ZA kept asking anyway. Upgrading the firewall software fixed it. -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slash zero?
Hello Rich, Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:02:41 AM, you wrote: rg Anyone know a decent way to ensure my PC displays and prints slash rg zeros rather than letter O-like zeros? I can recommend MS-Andale Mono. It has this major advantage over the other fonts mentioned here that it is a extended font. It supports many different code sets. It displayes and prints a dot in a zero. Download from: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe?download -- Best regards, Gerrit Kiers Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
POP3 over SSL
Hello tbudl, I have just been revamping my security on my Network here, and decided to try POP3 over SSL. Trouble is that I dont think TB Supports this. Can any one confirm if it does or does not support SSL, or am I just being thick? -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I don't have a license to kill. I have a learner's permit. Using TheBat! Version 2.02.3 CE Running On Windows XP (2600, Service Pack 1) Sent From OneAndOne Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 over SSL
At 6:19 PM on 2/16/2004, Michael Thompson typed ... M I have just been revamping my security on my Network here, and M decided to try POP3 over SSL. M Trouble is that I dont think TB Supports this. Can any one confirm M if it does or does not support SSL, or am I just being thick? I don't know that it supports this natively, but I run a Secure CRT to the office and forward ports 110 and 25. I tell TB to look at localhost on non-standard ports and it works like a charm. There may be an easier way. -- Bill Blinn - Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/16/2004 at 6:50 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is causing this?
The last two messages I've sent to the list have received a bounce message that says: Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject Re: POP3 over SSL Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has a suspicious header The first message this happened to wasn't approved for two or three days. -- Bill Blinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 2/16/2004 at 6:53 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Random thought: It's not bragging if you're telling the truth. This line was left blank intentionally, but now these words are in it. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
References: in header pane
TBUDL members The header pane will display a number of fields from the header on an email. One of the fields in the default set up is Follow-up: which, if you go to message headers preferences, should display the contents of the References: header. However it appears only to display Follow-up: where there is both an In-reply-to: header and a References: header. Moreover the value it displays as Follow-up: seems to be taken, not from the References: header, but the In-reply-to:! So that if the In-reply-to: header is present with no References: header, my header pane shows In reply to but not Follow up:. This behaviour is as expected. If the References: header is present with no In-reply-to: header, my header pane shows neither In reply to nor Follow up:. And furthermore, if the email headers contain something like: In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My system displays: In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow up: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can others confirm this behaviour? If so, does anyone know if it has been reported as a bug? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
Hey tbud'ers! I inadvertently set some settings which removed the toolbar from within each message when the message is displayed/ I would like to restore this functionality. I know about selecting View and then Toolbar and having a Toolbar pop up which can be used while reading an email, but I prefer the toolbar embedded in each email I read. I searched the Help portion and really didn't see anything that addressed this issue. I also checked the Edit shortcuts and again saw nothing that jumped out and grabbed me with the solution. So ... if someone would be kind enough to give me a hint, I'd appreciate it. I did not search the archive of messages as, truthfully, after searching the Help index, etc, I'm not sure what the heck to use as a search argument. It seems so simple, but ... evidently not for me at this late hour. Thanks in advance. -- Dirigo Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
D Earlier on Monday, February 16, 2004, I wrote D ... snip ... D D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used D it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail D to see more information (which I do look at every time ... D unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily cut and paste) D ... snip ... Thanks to all who responded to my question. I found your responses very interesting and appreciate you all taking the time to relate your personal experiences with this same item. -- Dirigo Using The Bat! version 2.00 under Windows 98 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
Dirigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 16-Feb-2004 11:36:28 PM Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know about selecting View and then Toolbar and having a Toolbar pop up which can be used while reading an email, but I prefer the toolbar embedded in each email I read. So opening a message from the message list, selecting View - Toolbar, closing the message, and then opening the or another message does not restore the toolbar for you? Weird... -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernanta estas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Save the whales. Collect the whole set. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
I know about selecting View and then Toolbar and having a Toolbar pop up which can be used while reading an email, but I prefer the toolbar embedded in each email I read. C So opening a message from the message list, selecting View - Toolbar, C closing the message, and then opening the or another message does not restore C the toolbar for you? Weird... The first time I open a message, there is NO toolbar displayed within the message or by itself separately. Not until I take the selection steps of View, then Toolbar, does a toolbar show up, but it is displayed as a completely SEPARATE toolbar window. Close the message and the separate toolbar window goes away. When the same message or another message is then reopened, again, after taking the steps of View - Toolbar, a completely SEPARATE toolbar window is displayed along with and above the message itself; however, what I had before was the toolbar actually displayed WITHIN the individual messages thenselves ... much like (similar to) The Bat! itself when it is open. Hopefully my description is clear, but, if not, keep pinging me until I make myself clear. I obviously stumbled/clicked something to cause this situation, but I have no idea what! Thanks. -- Dirigo Using The Bat! version 2.00 under Windows 98 SE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
Dear Bo, @16-Feb-2004, 23:36 -0500 (17-Feb 04:36 UK time) Dirigo [BD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BD I inadvertently set some settings which removed the toolbar from BD within each message when the message is displayed/ This happens if you drag the toolbar to a 'floating' position. BD ... nothing that jumped out and grabbed me with the solution. So BD ... if someone would be kind enough to give me a hint, I'd BD appreciate it. Not exactly an FAQ. I just did the same as you and got it back by closing TB then using regedit to go to HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Viewer Toolbars and I deleted the tbTools sub-key in that branch. Reloaded TB and the toolbar was back. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
On Tue 17 February 2004, 15:36:28 +1000, Dirigo wrote: I inadvertently set some settings which removed the toolbar from within each message when the message is displayed/ I would like to restore this functionality. I know about selecting View and then Toolbar and having a Toolbar pop up which can be used while reading an email, but I prefer the toolbar embedded in each email I read. If you see a floating toolbar, just drag it to the top of the window and it should dock itself. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
Dirigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 17-Feb-2004 12:22:29 AM Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The first time I open a message, there is NO toolbar displayed within the message or by itself separately. Not until I take the selection steps of View, then Toolbar, does a toolbar show up, but it is displayed as a completely SEPARATE toolbar window. Close the message and the separate toolbar window goes away. SNIP Hopefully my description is clear, but, if not, keep pinging me until I make myself clear. Yes, you have made yourself clear now. I obviously stumbled/clicked something to cause this situation, but I have no idea what! What you did was to click on the far left of the toolbar and then drag it out of the window. To re-dock it, when the toolbar is floating, click and hold on the title bar. The border will become darker. Then move the tool bar until it is under the menu. The border will become thin. Release your mouse button. Tada! The toolbar is back. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernanta estas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Notice in health food shop window: CLOSED DUE TO ILLNESS Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernanta estas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. With a rubber duck, one's never alone. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
MDP wrote: MDP This happens if you drag the toolbar to a 'floating' position. Sounds like I did that! I'm capable! BD ... nothing that jumped out and grabbed me with the solution. So BD ... if someone would be kind enough to give me a hint, I'd BD appreciate it. MDP Not exactly an FAQ. I just did the same as you and got it back by MDP closing TB then using regedit to go to HKCU/Software/RIT/The MDP Bat!/Viewer Toolbars and I deleted the tbTools sub-key in that MDP branch. Reloaded TB and the toolbar was back. Thank you, Sir!!! This did the trick. I've saved these steps away as a TB Toolbar Note for future reference ... now if I can only learn not to drag the toolbar. I did take a look into the tbTools sub-key folder before deleting it and most definitely was set up to float. Thanks again, Marck -- Dirigo Using The Bat! version 2.00 under Windows 98 SE Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Question re: restoring the lost toolbar within messages that I open to read.
Thanks Robin and Chris re: the docking manuever suggestion. I'm a bit tired right now, so I'll do that tomorrow ... earlier Marck had given me a suggestion re: regedit and The Bat!'s Toolbar entries ... following his instructions, I was able to get the toolbar back to where I like it. What a great list!!! Proving once again, there's more than one way to solve a problem (I created!). Good night all. -- Dirigo Using The Bat! version 2.00 under Windows 98 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
