Re: New filter - no macro button?
Hello all, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I missing something? I am sure in v2 when setting up an automatic reply template, the Macros button was available to select macrosmto place in the template. I may be being dense but I can't see how it's done now. this button is really missing, developers know about it, I have added this into official Bugtraq yesterday. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.0.8 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration issues with new user
Hello Doug, On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 5:36:58 AM, you wrote: Hi Michael, [snipped] TB! keeps its mail in standard Unix mailboxes - you can read you mail in any text editor. I know it's fixed now but you only need to open the inbox in a text editor and do a search for some likely key words. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP questions
1. What does courier compatibility mode do? I'm pretty sure I'm connecting to a courier server, but everything has been working well (except for the next question and my earlier question about attachments) with compatibility mode not checked. I've now set it for a couple of accounts, and can't see any difference in behaviour. 2. Tonight The Bat! doesn't seem to be disconnecting from the server. I have eight accounts on one server, but the server only allows four connections. I've set to disconnect after synchronisation, and I've set When inactive disconnect after 1 second, and I even found and set in the connection centre Disconnect when session finishes. But I still have a problem of clicking on a folder in a new account and getting a beep and Server closed connection in the log panel. I've watched the connection centre for a while, and it sits there with four connections for four accounts, but nothing obviously happening, the request list blank -- and the modem lights are not flashing either. Is there a fourth checkbox for disconnection that I haven't found yet? Or some other setting I'm missing? -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Smileys - TB 3.0
Hi Cristina, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 5:50:34 PM, you wrote: CR Did you right clicked on the text pane and checked Smileys? CR They are working for me. Many thanks. It was clicked, but I unclicked, and then clicked again and now OK. Cheers. Dougie Douglas Coull, Langbank, Scotland www.doug-coull.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Generally I have been very happy with RitLab's Products - support is another issue
Hallo Michael, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:23:47 -0700GMT (8-9-2004, 7:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLW My only complaint is that I must supply the old serial number to MLW upgrade to the new version. If I download the trial of the new MLW version to see if I like it, the old serial number is gone. You can find the serial number in the message you got with your v1/v2 key. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpwz1B5bN5pv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[9]: Version3 ?!
Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 7:30:35 PM, you wrote: If you like football. I'm afraid it bores the life out of me but that's just MHO Not just yours, can't see the attraction myself, bunch of blokes kicking a sphere between some poles. Mind you, it's the almost religious fanaticism some people have for it that really baffles me. -- Kevin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Tue, 7 Sep 2004, at 16:10:26 -0500, @ @ when Michael L. Cusac wrote: Mica Mijatovic wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting only selected text? Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) Thanks for the reply. Is is possible to bind that action to a key? Within TB itself, it's not known to me. With some external utility, though, which works with macros automating various keyboard/mouse actions (as PowerPro www.windowspowerpro.com, the former Stiletto, which is free) it's possible, that is to bind very complex actions just to the one keyboard shortcut. I don't know details, since I don't use PowerPro for such purposes, (I rarely work in a way that I need any more complex actions which repeat all the time in the very same way.) - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPuWQ9q62QPd3XuIRAludAKCdKBamRPOO/3+BxtjqylhridvEbACfWnxq m5hiJYtQGtqJzk+jl1gTDSk= =DKIj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP questions
Tim, [T] wrote: 1. What does courier compatibility mode do? I'm pretty sure I'm connecting to a courier server, but everything has been working well (except for the next question and my earlier question about attachments) with compatibility mode not checked. There were serious problems for those using TB! IMAP with Courier IMAP servers. This Courier IMAP server compatibility mode option appeared during an active go at fixing the problems. 2. Tonight The Bat! doesn't seem to be disconnecting from the server. I have eight accounts on one server, but the server only allows four connections. This is a tacky problem. I've set to disconnect after synchronisation, and I've set When inactive disconnect after 1 second, and I even found and set in the connection centre Disconnect when session finishes. How often do you have TB! set to refresh folders? Refreshing folders checks and does a message count, but no sync'ing occurs. How often do you have TB! set to do periodic checking. Periodic checking and checking mail at startup actually results in sync'ing operations. If you have the above frequencies set to be too short, then TB! will very frequently have reason to be connected to the server? Finally, how do you sync your folders? If the sync'ing is too aggressive then TB! will spend a lot of time sync'ing folders. A suggestion: Since there's an issue with the number of concurrent connections allowed to the server, I'd set all folders for all accounts not to sync at all. However, you could for the moment leave periodic refreshing enabled. In the account propertes, go to mail management and enable all the options for auto-connecting to the server. What this setup does is make TB! connect and sync only when you've selected a folder. Only that folders headers are sync'd. When you select a message, the body is retrieved for reading. This setup will economize how connections are established so that you always have connections available for what you wish to do and not have TB!'s automated duties taking up all the connections. -- -= Allie =- . Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.8 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I love BayesIT!
Hello Bill, Ahhh, thanks, that makes sense. Don't know why I couldn't just figure that out sigh Must be getting old wink -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 9:17:58 PM, you wrote: BM On Tue 7-Sep-04 1:58pm -0400, MikeD (3) wrote: Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 12:38:31 PM, you wrote: BM On Mon 6-Sep-04 7:56pm -0400, Michael L. Wilson wrote: Since the 5.10 or so, I have added the discussion and newsletter groups to the whitelist, which has sped up mail collection even more. This list generates a hundred or more email a day, and those are just passed through BayesIT, and not counted in the totals. BM This appears to be a great idea for training BayesIt! BM However, for actual operation after a bit of this training, BM wouldn't it be better to delete those white list entries and BM place them in the ignore list? You seem to know more about this than I do. What is the difference between the white list and the ignore list? I have never used the latter. BM Whitelist learns and assigns a zero value (not spam). BM Ignorelist doesn't learn and returns not processed to TB! BM You can see the learning going on by examing the log and the BM base. BM After training for a day with my Whitelist, I simply did a BM rename to convert that list to an Ignorelist: BM ren whitelist.txt ignorelist.txt Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Wednesday, 8 September 2004, Allie Martin wrote: I've set to disconnect after synchronisation, and I've set When inactive disconnect after 1 second, and I even found and set in the connection centre Disconnect when session finishes. AM How often do you have TB! set to refresh folders? AM How often do you have TB! set to do periodic checking. On the most critical account, these were both set at 5 minutes. On other accounts these were set at longer times, using different prime numbers of minutes for each account (a practice I developed a few years ago to avoid too many multiple connections). AM Finally, how do you sync your folders? If the sync'ing is too AM aggressive then TB! will spend a lot of time sync'ing folders. I've had them all set on Headers only. Tonight I've changed some to new Headers only to see if that makes a difference. I suspect most of my problem is expectations. When I was using POP, I used to start up the computer, then go and do other things (make coffee) until my mail downloaded. With IMAP, I connect to the internet and almost immediately the message list shows all the new messages. So I don't go and make coffee; instead I click on the first message, and then have to wait for it to download, which may involve waiting for other tasks. I'm still downloading the same data as when I used POP (and therefore the download time ought to be the same) -- it's just a matter of when the download time occurs. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP questions
Tim, [T] wrote: On the most critical account, these were both set at 5 minutes. On other accounts these were set at longer times, using different prime numbers of minutes for each account (a practice I developed a few years ago to avoid too many multiple connections). Try only using the refresh folder counts option. If you wish to browse a folder, then select it and it will sync for you. I'd stick to sync'ing only headers. I've had them all set on Headers only. Tonight I've changed some to new Headers only to see if that makes a difference. In this way the folder will display only unread messages. I thought this may work for me but upon syncing the already sync'd messages that are read are removed from the local cache. .. With IMAP, I connect to the internet and almost immediately the message list shows all the new messages. A header only sync. Much less than retrieving headers, body text and attachments. So I don't go and make coffee; instead I click on the first message, and then have to wait for it to download, which may involve waiting for other tasks. Depending on the syncing settings for those other accounts and folders, the waiting could be long. I'm still downloading the same data as when I used POP (and therefore the download time ought to be the same) -- it's just a matter of when the download time occurs. Right. -- -= Allie =- . Imagination is more important than knowledge - Einstein ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.8 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Wednesday, 8 September 2004, Allie Martin wrote: I've had them all set on Headers only. Tonight I've changed some to new Headers only to see if that makes a difference. AM In this way the folder will display only unread messages. I realised that just before I received your message. I had assumed that it meant anything already received would be left in the local list, and new messages would be added. Overall, I'm happy with IMAP and The Bat!. And having my mail exactly wehre I filed it from whatever computer I use is worth it. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP questions
Overall, I'm happy with IMAP and The Bat!. And having my mail exactly wehre I filed it from whatever computer I use is worth it. Do you have a New mail sound played when you get a new mail through IMAP? Have you tried virtual folders searching in IMAP folders? Do they refresh automatically? I have trouble with both. -- Gabor Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Thursday, 9 September 2004, Gabor Kovacs P. wrote: GKP Do you have a New mail sound played when you get a new mail GKP through IMAP? I don't know, I haven't yet tried to set that up. Playing sounds isn't a priority for me (although I admit I've found it very useful in the past couple of years). GKP Have you tried virtual folders searching in IMAP folders? Do they GKP refresh automatically? I haven't yet tried to do anything with virtual folders, even before I tried IMAP. I certainly have some ideas as to what I'd like to use them for if I find time to experiment. When I said I'm happy with IMAP, I meant I haven't lost any of the functions I use (which is a very small fraction of what The Bat! offers) and I've gained the advantage of connecting from other computers and having emails as I sorted them and (most important) having access to all the emails I've sent from any location. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scrolling with Space/Alt-PgDn (was: Re: What is a natural email system?)
Hello dAniel, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 10:17:16 PM, you wrote: dh the simple scroll the last line to the top of page would be much dh easier AFAICS and would be all we'd need. Yes. Shouldn't be too difficult for RITLabs, as they've impelemented it many times - only to break it again a couple of versions later :( -- Best regards, Pekka The Bat! 2.11.02, Windows 98SE Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I'm feeling left out, or, like a memberless member
Hello Mica Mijatovic, 07-Sep-2004 23:56, you wrote: All things are good for something ...some for providing a bad example. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Science may be described as the art of systematic oversimplification - the art of discerning what we may with advantage omit. -- Karl Popper Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons in TB! v3 are too large (back on topic)
On 9/7/2004, 10:43:46 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Bob, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:40:21 -0400GMT (7-9-2004, 4:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: B Is there any way to change the size of the icons (glyphs) in TB! v3? B Even when I use a glyphs.bmp file, the icons are spread too far apart B and they take up too much screen space. I'm using the same glyphs as for v2 and that's smaller than the default v3 icons. (Even though their size doesn't bother me.) I'm using the old glyphs, too, but now they're spaced too far apart since the new glyphs v3 uses are so large. It has nothing to do with the size of the screen (I'm running 1280x1024 on a 21 CRT), it's just that I love the old icons and now they look ridiculous being so spread out like this. I'm just wondering if there was a way to bring them back to their original size, that's all. Does anybody know? Thanks! -- Regards, Bob Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDP another way in.
Hello Eric, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 7:25:06 PM, you wrote: LG http://tbudp.pcwize.com Didn't work for me, so I was glad to get LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbwiki/ which did. Same here. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I'm feeling left out, or, like a memberless member
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Wed, 8 Sep 2004, at 17:47:45 +0200, @ @ when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Mica Mijatovic, 07-Sep-2004 23:56, you wrote: All things are good for something ...some for providing a bad example. ;-) Naturally. (-: Science may be described as the art of systematic oversimplification - the art of discerning what we may with advantage omit. -- Karl Popper Yeah. That's interesting what happened after Monsieur Descartes. All those whose emotional levels were screwed up, eagerly started to search for a better means of identifying and proving something. But, it happens to them the same what happened with Descartes: they fall as victims of their own emotions (when the reverend man was killed by the chubby queen). No science can replace or fix what is messed there. It's interesting how humanity accepts a shock as an ultimate rule, much rather than any other approach. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPzrR9q62QPd3XuIRApZgAJ9Eg3thtp41Z/DT9g/qiLrBAPh6HACfX+rc WUiBG6hGns5L4FAbjOOrB68= =PBm/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hello Chris, Friday, September 3, 2004, 8:35:24 PM, you wrote: L0I just upgraded to The Bat! v3.0, and I just discovered that this L0new version does not include an AntiVirus plugin for Kaspersky L0AntiVirus. All previous versions of The Bat! have included this. I L0can seem to find no information about this in the RIT Labs support L0forums. CW I mentioned this a couple of months back; CW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CW May also be worth checking out this thread on the KAV forums; CW http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=4138c7a26988;act=ST;f=1;t=611 Erk! I thought that I'd checked everything before I upgraded. Ho hum, back to my downer on v3. It seems that Ritlabs are not alone though, I've recently upgraded: - Kaspersky AVmachine hangs and continual disk activity - Agnitum Outpost random component blocking Tempted to restore from last week's backup, I can't believe that I'm getting nostalgic for *last week*! -- Nick Playing with TheBat!: v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?
Hi Nick, On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 18:37 our local time, Nick Dutton [ND] wrote; ND Erk! I thought that I'd checked everything before I upgraded. There is a BETA plug-in available :-) Check this message - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ND - Kaspersky AVmachine hangs and continual disk activity I guess you're using V4.5 Pro with the latest update. If this is the case, a patch was released today to fix the continual HD activity. See here - http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=413f47e40d7f;act=ST;f=1;t=639 ND - Agnitum Outpost random component blocking Can't help you on this one :-( I hope they help a bit ;-) -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signing and Encrypting
Hi, I just sent a message to TBUDL. I told The Bat! to sign MIME and send. It encrypted, instead. I click the little lock icon in the upper right corner and nothing happens. So, how do I sign messages that do not have all that junk in the message, yet they are signed? -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Remember there's no I in team... (but there is a M and an E) = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 62 Total Clean Emails: 19 BayesIT guessed right 99.935484% of the time My email is 76.54321% spam = morning dayevening === 11:07 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Meaning of these Smileys
Hi Bat Users, Can someone explain to me what these to smileys mean. h2g2 :42: Ans because you can not see this if you have smileys activated, why does the h2g2 smiley (that the top one) work without the coluns? Thanks -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Things That Sound Dirty At Golf But Aren't: Mind if I join your threesome? Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Zonnet, On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Zonnet mused about Meaning of these Smileys (at least in part): Z Hi Bat Users, Z Can someone explain to me what these to smileys mean. Z h2g2 Z :42: There is a book (or series of books) by Douglas Adams. The first book was called The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The planet sticking out its tongue was the logo on that book. In the book, Arthur Dent finds that answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. The answer is 42. -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: 'Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.' - Euripides = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 62 Total Clean Emails: 19 BayesIT guessed right 99.935484% of the time My email is 76.54321% spam = morning dayevening === 11:12 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hi Zonnet and list, On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 20:08:51 GMT +0200 (which was 20:08 where I live) Zonnet wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Meaning of these Smileys: Can someone explain to me what these to smileys mean. h2g2 :42: Hmmm - I'm not an expert for literature - they both go back to Douglas Adams Hitchhiker to the galaxy (still didn't read that trilogy. Ans because you can not see this if you have smileys activated, why does the h2g2 smiley (that the top one) work without the coluns? That is in the default.msl file in your images folder. There are the handles listed, which are responsible for displaying the smileys. If you'll have a look at it, you'll see two lines like Smiley = .\Default\h2g2.gif, 0, h2g2 Smiley = .\Default\42.gif, 0, :42: HTH -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.8, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Zonnet, Z Can someone explain to me what these to smileys mean. Z h2g2 Z :42: I think someone did :) Z Ans because you can not see this if you have smileys activated, why Z does the h2g2 smiley (that the top one) work without the coluns? the file is called default.msl and the line for that one is : Smiley = .\Default\h2g2.gif, 0, h2g2 the first mention is the file, the second is what triggers it. they were SUPPOSED to change all the smileys to use colons, so normal letters wouldn't trigger them :) so they changed LOL to :lol: :lol: you can put your own images in there, and name them as you wish, and you can upload any you like to add to the pcwise smileys!! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
pgp/mime test
Hi, Let's see if it works with my new key -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 62 Total Clean Emails: 19 BayesIT guessed right 99.935484% of the time My email is 76.54321% spam = morning dayevening === 11:25 pgp16peZkvwek.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime test
Hi Michael and list, On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 11:26:05 GMT -0700 (which was 20:26 where I live) Michael L. Wilson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of pgp/mime test: Hi, Let's see if it works with my new key Works ok! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.8, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Zonnet! On Wednesday, September 08, 2004, 1:08 PM, you wrote: Z h2g2 Abbreviation for *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* by Douglas Adams and miniature of its cover illustration. It's an old and very popular book--actually, series of books, which began as a BBC radio program. I had never heard of it until I got The Bat! It's a sort of mantra among some TB! users. Z :42: That's in the Hitchhiker's Guide. It's part of the story and also sums up a certain philosophy. It is the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything, except, the question is missing. When Leif was working with 9Val on Smileys, after 9Val first invented a way to use them in The Bat!, Leif made these two images and put them on tbbeta with a subject line, Hey Trill, these are for you. Now, Trill is my nickname, short for Trillian (also derived from *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy*--she's one of the heroines and she gets stranded far from earth but she gamely adjusts to all the foreign environments). I was beyond startled! But I did and do very much appreciate the two Smileys and I'm glad they're in general use. I myself use them rather frequently. Z Ans because you can not see this if you have smileys activated, why Z does the h2g2 smiley (that the top one) work without the coluns? It's the way its .msl file is written. 9Val edited and enclosed all the words in the Default smileys, but he missed enclosing the initials. GRR and h2g2 (GRR and h2g2) are the ones that he missed. Only 9Val can edit the Default Smileys. The PCWizesmileys I can edit, as keeper of the PCWSmileys Smiley page. -- Best regards, Mary (PCWSmileys Administrator) :Trill: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime test
Hello Michael, MLW Let's see if it works with my new key nice, you can also add lines to a template, maybe something like this: %CLEARSIGN %SIGNCOMPLETE %NORCPTCONFIRM %NOUSESMIME -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TBUDP another way in.
Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 9:02:53 AM, you wrote: LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbwiki/ which did. Thanks .. works for me too! Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Paul mused about pgp/mime test (at least in part): PC Hello Michael, MLW Let's see if it works with my new key PC nice, you can also add lines to a template, maybe something like this: PC %CLEARSIGN PC %SIGNCOMPLETE PC %NORCPTCONFIRM PC %NOUSESMIME I'm testing this QT that I named sign, so let's see - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: A ton of regret never made an ounce of difference. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 61 Total Clean Emails: 22 BayesIT guessed right 99.934426% of the time My email is 73.493976% spam = morning dayevening =12:47 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQT9h2vvT94bCV8K0EQKe0QCglqSF4+V7gSQz+gcesEhQUV57RH8AnReh I+LUiJa/ZgFfApAPHTOraGRO =TJkF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime test
Hello Michael, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 3:47:30 PM, you wrote: PC nice, you can also add lines to a template, maybe something like this: PC %CLEARSIGN PC %SIGNCOMPLETE PC %NORCPTCONFIRM PC %NOUSESMIME MLW I'm testing this QT that I named sign, so let's see pgp verified just fine! at first I had a ?, and when I clicked on it, now I have the green check mark and PGP verified tab, below the message -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hi Mary, ON Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 8:39:30 PM, you wrote: MB Z h2g2 MB Abbreviation for *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* by Douglas MB Adams and miniature of its cover illustration. I started reading that a long time ago ut found it a bit Z :42: MB That's in the Hitchhiker's Guide. It's part of the story and also MB sums up a certain philosophy. It is the Answer to Life, the MB Universe, and Everything, except, the question is missing. You can understand why a logical mind like mine stopped reading it and is now playing golf as an Anwser to Life :) MB It's the way its .msl file is written. 9Val edited and enclosed all MB the words in the Default smileys, but he missed enclosing the MB initials. GRR and h2g2 (GRR and h2g2) are the ones that he missed. I sort of guessed it was a small mistake. As long as its known. Thanks for explaining, also all others who wrote replies ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A golf course is the epitome of all that is purely transitory in the universe, a space not to dwell in, but to get over as quickly as possible. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Michael, On 08 September 2004, 11:14 -0700 (08/09/200419:14 local time) Michael L. Wilson [MLW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MLW In the book, Arthur Dent finds that answer to Life, The Universe and MLW Everything. The answer is 42. Oh no! You've spoilt the ending... -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 The Bat! Version 3.0.0.9 Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Quote of the day: What is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? ST MATTHEW 16:26 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter questions/problems
Hello TBUDL, I have some questions and a problem concerning the NFS. First a problem: Recently I upgraded from v2.12 to v3.0 (I never used beta versions). Now I suspect the conversion of my old filters to the NFS went not as it should. It seems some messages get filtered based on a rule which I already altered before the upgrade. I cannot verify which filter rule it uses, it concerns a Read messages filter and apparently these aren't logged. Has anybody else had problems like this? Or other filter conversion problems? This leads to my second question: The incoming mail filter actions are logged in the account log. But is it not possible to log all the other kinds of filter actions (read, sent, etc.) as well? I am using The Bat! about 4.5 years now and my filter collection has become quite large. Sometimes I am puzzled which filter it is using, then a logfile would be helpful. Third question (also about the NFS): When using Address groups in a filter rule, is manually typing the name of the group the only way to select it? In the old filter system you could just select it from a dialog box. And what if I want to select multiple groups? Do I type Group1+Group2 or Group1,Group2 or ... ? Lot of questions... I hope you can help me. -- Best regards, Sander van den Berg :nlflag: The Bat! v3.0 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
some filters not working in v3
Hi All I downloaded TB ver 3.0 to evaluate and some of my filters work and others do not. I tried to see if any settings were different between the working and non-working filters but nothing stood out. I even deleted a few of the filters and re-created them and they still do not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hi All The pick e-mail addresses box has strange buttons. Instead of showing and it shows numbers 4 44. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: So you just bought The Bat? Ritlabs says 'Get stuffed'
At 09/03/04 23:24 , Doug Weller wrote: Are there many examples of getting refunds if you bought something 3 months before an upgrade/new model? The previous poster was, I believe, interested not in a refund, but in a no-charge upgrade. At least, that was my understanding. Just recently, from out of the blue, I received an e-mail from JP Software, which had attached to it, new keys for new versions of their excellent products, 4DOS, 4NT, and TakeCommand. Back in June of this year, I had upgraded to the (then) current versions, and until receiving this e-mail, I wasn't even aware of there being new versions. The e-mail stated that they were sending free upgrades to everyone who had ordered on or after June 1. That's what I call excellent customer relations! This is some of the best, most solid, bug-free, and (to me) valuable software that I have ever used, and I have been using it for over a decade. Highly recommended. -- Just Another Joe Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Zonnet! On Wednesday, September 08, 2004, 1:53 PM, you wrote: Z :42: MB That's in the Hitchhiker's Guide. It's part of the story and also MB sums up a certain philosophy. It is the Answer to Life, the MB Universe, and Everything, except, the question is missing. Z You can understand why a logical mind like mine stopped reading it and is Z now playing golf as an Anwser to Life :) LOL The h 2 g 2 ( h2g2 ) is not true science fiction--it's a satire and a spoof. Golf as an answer to life is in the same category--are you sure that you're not a fictional character from Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next series? :gdr: :timemachine: Now The Bat! as an answer to life--that to a logical mind like mine makes entirely perfect sense! :) Well, I had to write something to keep this playfully meant post on topic. The budgies and bunnies are watching!! -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: 6*9 The :42: Tribble The Bat! 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Generally I have been very happy with RitLab's Products - support is another issue
Jack Morrison @ 2004-Sep-8 12:09:39 PM Generally I have been very happy with RitLab's Products - support is another issue mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, when I downloaded and installed SP2 recently, I *gained* almost 10 *gigabytes* of hard drive space and can't figure out why. I'm sure it has something to do with overwriting all those hot fixes/patches that had accumulated since SP1, but... I can think of two other reasons. 1) It cleared out a BUNCH of temporary files 2) It converted your disk from FAT32 to NTFS. NTFS is better at handling a bunch of smaller files than FAT32 is, so there is less wasted space. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Spotted in a toilet in a London office block: TOILET OUT OF ORDER. PLEASE USE FLOOR BELOW. pgpF42sKxvTPl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: pgp/mime test
Michael L. Wilson @ 2004-Sep-8 2:26:05 PM pgp/mime test mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see if it works with my new key It does. If you are going to use this new key, you should revoke the old one. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Bug? That's not a bug, that's a feature. pgpETMPpEuskG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Terry G. Munson @ 2004-Sep-8 6:21:13 PM strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The pick e-mail addresses box has strange buttons. Instead of showing and it shows numbers 4 44. I get the angle brackets. What language of Windows are you using? What font are you using for buttons? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Sign on motorway garage: PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE NEAR OUR PETROL PUMPS. YOUR LIFE MAY NOT BE WORTH MUCH, BUT OUR PETROL IS pgpQz0hmB3J0t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: Re: So you just bought The Bat? Ritlabs says 'Get stuffed'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2004-Sep-8 7:00:55 PM So you just bought The Bat? Ritlabs says 'Get stuffed' mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is some of the best, most solid, bug-free, and (to me) valuable software that I have ever used, and I have been using it for over a decade. Highly recommended. Except some of the tests in the Perl test (nmake test after compiling Perl) suite fail due to quirky behavior from 4NT... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Today's Oxymoron: Found missing pgpzJ6p06AiGy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Mary Bull @ 2004-Sep-8 8:12:12 PM Meaning of these Smileys mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :timemachine: Okay... Now we need a :tardis:. If only we could get rights from the BBC... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 In a Nonsmoking Area: If we see smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. pgpo32JIErklg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning of these Smileys
Hello Chris! On Wednesday, September 08, 2004, 7:17 PM, you wrote: MB :timemachine: C Okay... Now we need a :tardis:. If only we could get rights from C the BBC... We have one, courtesy of Ben Z. (Plan9) and Marck D. Pearlstone. :realtardis: It's a real tardis. LOL In the process of acquiring it I got introduced to Dr. Who. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Hello Chris, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 5:11:12 PM, you wrote: I get the angle brackets. What language of Windows are you using? English Windows XP Pro What font are you using for buttons? In windows - Tahoma In TB - courier new (I think) -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: some filters not working in v3
Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 3:14:48 PM, you wrote: TGM I tried to see if any settings were different between TGM the working and non-working filters but nothing stood TGM out. TGM I even deleted a few of the filters and re-created TGM them and they still do not work. I had 2 that weren't working ... after messing around them for 2 days, I discovered that the folder they were being filtered to didn't exist any more .. doh. I redirected them, and suspect that now they'll be fine. If it doesn't work, I'll be back :-) Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP account won't send
Hi all - Checking out v3 here, and have a really peculiar problem with my IMAP account. It won't send mail about 3 out of 5 sends, and when it fails, it doesn't even try .. that is, I hit the send button, and it just sits there. It doesn't even try. The account log doesn't show a send effort, either. The server is Dovecot, if that's any use at all ... and it looks like mail comes in fine. tia Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Terry G. Munson @ 2004-Sep-8 8:39:47 PM strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I get the angle brackets. What language of Windows are you using? English Windows XP Pro What font are you using for buttons? In windows - Tahoma In TB - courier new (I think) Hmmm... Can you upload a screen shot and send us a link? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Today's Oxymoron: Alone together pgpd2vxJxPP4t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
I get the angle brackets. What language of Windows are you using? English Windows XP Pro What font are you using for buttons? In windows - Tahoma In TB - courier new (I think) Hmmm... Can you upload a screen shot and send us a link? (I can't provide a screenshot I'm afraid but.) FWIW, I have the same problem also, using TB! v3.0, English Win XP Pro with MS Sans Serif font (both in Windows and in TB!). In my case the angle bracket buttons have been replaced with: 4 44 3 33 r s Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Compressing folders
Hello tbudl, Is there a way to compress all folders or selected folders at one time? Thanks, in advance. -- Take care, Kathy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Icons in TB! v3 are too large
Howdy David, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 1:01:55 PM, David wrotened: David -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- David Hash: SHA1 David Salutation Alexander David On 07 September 2004 at 13:44:40 +0200 (which was 12:44 where I live) David Alexander S. Kunz wrote and made these points The time of 14 CRT screens is over. ;-) Okay ... and can you say the word ... laptop? :grin: nitpick ...wow, I wasn't aware there's latops with CRT displays! Aren't they a bit uncomfortable to carry around? /nitpick :-) David I got one in the cupboard next to me. One of the first Compaq luggable (OK David not really a laptop) Weren't they called portable because if you tried to put one on your lap you needed a new lap. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.0.0.8 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598MHz, 1.00GB of Ram Detroit: where the weak are killed and eaten. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compressing folders
Dear Kathy, @8-Sep-2004, 21:58 -0400 (09-Sep 02:58 UK time) Kathy Dunham [KD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: KD Is there a way to compress all folders or selected folders at one time? From the Main Menu select Folder | Maintenance. From the dialog, select the folders you want to compress, check the Compress tick box and go. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.0.9 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpXnhfYGJdJm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP questions
Gabor Kovacs P., [GKP] wrote: Do you have a New mail sound played when you get a new mail through IMAP? TB! doesn't yet support incoming mail sound notifications for IMAP mail. Have you tried virtual folders searching in IMAP folders? Do they refresh automatically? I have a single VF here that I use to remind me of which messages need replying. I have the folder match messages that are not replied to and labelled with a particular colour group. The VF usually updates as soon as I label a message with the colour group. Additionally, after replying the message immediately disappears from the VF since it is now flagged as being replied to. -- -= Allie =- . It's deja vu all over again. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.8 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange buttons on pick e-mail addresses
Terry, On 09-09-2004 00:21, you [TGM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TGM The pick e-mail addresses box has strange buttons. Instead of TGM showing and it shows numbers 4 44. This is a known bug. I don't know if it has been fixed in service release 3.0.0.8 -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html