Re: Setting spelling language
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:20:08 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 23:20 +0200, where I live), Roelof Otten wrote: ... > You realize of course that you can assign editor shortcuts to QTs, do > you? Yes! You can also click on the language with the mouse while typing a message, but sometimes it is nice to use the keyboard instead. ... -- groeten, Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpIs40IE74by.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Need Address Book Help
Hallo Lawrence, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:53:01 -0500GMT (30-9-2005, 19:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LJ> Please don't laugh, but I screwed up and can't get my Address Book LJ> to appear. I'm not laughing, honestly. LJ> I was playing around (always a bad omen) and decided to make an LJ> Address Group. You could do worse things in your free time. You've got these cereal killers you see a lot tv programs about. ;-) ^^ Remember, this is a family list LJ> It was my intent to make a single entry which would encompass a LJ> group of email addresses to which I commonly send messages. Maybe LJ> thats not what an Address Group is for. You can use them for that, but my main purpose for AB groups is filtering. LJ> Anyway, having created an empty Address Group, now I can't get the LJ> host of addresses that were in my AB before to appear. Its only this LJ> blank Group with 0 entries. When the only thing you've done was creating a new group then you should be able to get back to the root of your AB. On the left side of the AB you should be seeing your AB tree, all AB's and groups should be visible, just pick the one you need. When your problem concerns the address picker that you can reach from the address bar in the editor window, then you see the name of your new group with a single downward arrow next to it. Press the arrow button and select what you want. In case I'm not making any sense to you, just make a screenshot of your problem and publish it on your homepage, so we can see what you're talking about. Don't send it to the list as the list server is configured to stop those things. -- Groetjes, Roelof Say 95*, Wish I Never Ditched Other Working Software. The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1X6nzlgqDD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Sending bulk emails
Hello Granville, Friday, September 30, 2005, 10:35:45 AM, you wrote: GC> I've just had a look at Groupmail. Is it possible to export my GC> contacts from The Bat! into Groupmail? I believe it would be, although I'm not positive. All my contacts were imported into Groupmail using comma deliminated text filed and I believe TB! will create these for export. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
Hallo Henk, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:35:33 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 19:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: HDB> The only thing I have to do now is type the name of that quick template, HDB> for instance "nl". When I hit ctrl-spacebar the language is changed to HDB> that language. When I want to change back to another language I only HDB> have to type the name I have given to that quick template and press HDB> ctrl-spacebar. Piece of cake! You realize of course that you can assign editor shortcuts to QTs, do you? That's what I meant in my reply to Jenny. When you're editing a QT, you've got this options tab and there you can assign an editor shortcut. Fancy names are fun when you're calling them automatically from another template, but when you're busy typing a mail a shortcut is easier, especially when it's something you're doing a lot. HDB> Very nice suggestion, thanks Roelof. We serve to please. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easy to propose impossible remedies. The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpNBGxkUuskw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dismiss the MailTicker Popup: how?
Hello Martin! On Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:49 PM, you wrote: MS>>> Is there a way do just dismiss the mailticker-window, so it diappears MS>>> for now, but comes back later, when new mails are there? >> Options -> Preferences -> Mail Ticker -> Display mail ticker: Automatically > Sorry Roelof, seems like I wasn't exact enough: I already have set the > mailticker to automatic. But, sometimes the mailticker pops up, but > I'm in a hurry and can't read the mail at once. So I want to make the > mailticker go out of my way, but only until new mails arrive (because > sometimes on a small monitor the mailticker opens over vital areas of > the screen). I don't know a way to do what you want. However, it might be possible to get the mailticker away from the vital areas of your screen. Especially if you have it sized reasonably small itself. I put my cursor on it (my OS is Windows XP) and simply move it out of my way, as I would move any other window. When I've taken care of what I want to, I put it back in the top righthand corner of the monitor screen, the position I prefer it to be in most of the time. (I display it in thin view, always on top--set that in Options/Preferences/Messages/Mailticker. And most of the time I'm running TB! minimized.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need Address Book Help
Please don't laugh, but I screwed up and can't get my Address Book to appear. I was playing around (always a bad omen) and decided to make an Address Group. It was my intent to make a single entry which would encompass a group of email addresses to which I commonly send messages. Maybe thats not what an Address Group is for. Anyway, having created an empty Address Group, now I can't get the host of addresses that were in my AB before to appear. Its only this blank Group with 0 entries. -- Thanks, Lawrence Johnson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dismiss the MailTicker Popup: how?
Hello Roelof, > Hallo Martin, > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:07:26 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 19:07 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: MS>> Is there a way do just dismiss the mailticker-window, so it diappears MS>> for now, but comes back later, when new mails are there? > Options -> Preferences -> Mail Ticker -> Display mail ticker: Automatically Sorry Roelof, seems like I wasn't exact enough: I already have set the mailticker to automatic. But, sometimes the mailticker pops up, but I'm in a hurry and can't read the mail at once. So I want to make the mailticker go out of my way, but only until new mails arrive (because sometimes on a small monitor the mailticker opens over vital areas of the screen). Currently I know of two options: 1. right-click on ticker window -> hide: this hides the mailticker, but it does not come back until I use options -> mailticker -> Display -> automatically 2. set all new mails to "read", which is bad: I might overlook a new mail later. What I want to have: an option to hide the mailtickerwindow for now, without having to read mails/change mail status/hiding the mailticker completely. -- Martin TB! 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:23:41 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 14:23 +0200, where I live), Gerard wrote: > ON Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:48:12 PM, you wrote: JZ>> 1. Is a way I can assign a hot-key to this feature, so that I JZ>> don't have to pick up the mouse so often. JZ>> 2. Can I define the spelling language in a template? > I have the same problem as you (and Roelof). > What I have done is made templates for English an Dutch nationals and > assigned them to different groups. I have then made Templates with the > language macro setting the language in the template. ... Like Roelof suggested I made a quick template for the Dutch language and a quick template for the English language. The only thing I have to do now is type the name of that quick template, for instance "nl". When I hit ctrl-spacebar the language is changed to that language. When I want to change back to another language I only have to type the name I have given to that quick template and press ctrl-spacebar. Piece of cake! Very nice suggestion, thanks Roelof. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dismiss the MailTicker Popup: how?
Hallo Martin, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:07:26 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 19:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS> Is there a way do just dismiss the mailticker-window, so it diappears MS> for now, but comes back later, when new mails are there? Options -> Preferences -> Mail Ticker -> Display mail ticker: Automatically -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't forget to close your eyes when reading a scary book The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvGucgPhXM9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dismiss the MailTicker Popup: how?
Hello tbudl, Is there a way do just dismiss the mailticker-window, so it diappears for now, but comes back later, when new mails are there? When I click "hide" in the mailticker-window-menu it seems like the mail ticker is deactivated from now on (only options-mailticker-automatic brings it back). -- Thanks! Martin TB! 3.61.06 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop)
Hallo qe3ee, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:03:12 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 18:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Q> Hello wonderful qe3ee, Q> den 30 september 2005, 12:49:54, du skrev: q>> Hello wonderful Roelof Otten, q>> den 30 september 2005, 12:30:54, du skrev: RO>>> Hallo qe3ee, RO>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:21:50 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 12:21 +0200, where I RO>>> live), you wrote: Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out qe3ee. )<)))'> Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof %ToFName, target your blaster at the nearest moderator AND SHOOT! pgpfxDOpbx6ZS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending bulk emails
Granville Cousins @ 9/30/2005 10:35:45 AM "Sending bulk emails" > I've just had a look at Groupmail. Is it possible to export my > contacts from The Bat! into Groupmail? Yes, according to http://www.group-mail.com/asp/common/features.asp: "Work with existing data and information in practically any format. Importing data from existing applications or databases couldn't be easier. GroupMail can import practically any file type, text, CSV, binary, databases, and email address books. At present any database that supports ODBC or OLEDB (SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, Access, FoxPro, Excel, etc.) can be imported or linked directly into GroupMail Business Edition. Currently supported (no export to CSV required!!) address book formats including distribution lists are: Eudora, Outlook Express, Outlook, Netscape, Opera, AOL, Thunderbird/Mozilla, Lotus Notes, Exchange, PINE, GroupWise and other formats are being added continuously. All data imported is checked for duplicates and all email addresses are validated using strict industry standards for formatting." -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? pgpC8ovQ0YSCH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending bulk emails
Hallo Granville, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:35:45 +0100GMT (30-9-2005, 17:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GC> I've just had a look at Groupmail. Is it possible to export my GC> contacts from The Bat! into Groupmail? It can import CSV (according to the info) and TB can export addresses to CSV, so I suppose the answer is yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpAgP6o0SVBI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hello wonderful qe3ee, den 30 september 2005, 12:49:54, du skrev: q> Hello wonderful Roelof Otten, q> den 30 september 2005, 12:30:54, du skrev: RO>> Hallo qe3ee, RO>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:21:50 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 12:21 +0200, where I RO>> live), you wrote: Q>>> I was just thinking if there are some other code not in conjunction Q>>> to the message (i.e in the -tbi section of the maildatabase) that I Q>>> have to compare against? RO>> In that case close TB RO>> Delete (or move) the .tbi file from the folder with problem msgs RO>> Start TB RO>> See whether that helps. RO>> When TB finds a folder without a messages.tbi file, it creates a new RO>> one. However, things like memos, flags, etc are stored in the .tbi RO>> file, so if you're using flags, memos or parked messages, you should RO>> merely move it and restore it after your experiment. Take care that TB RO>> doesn't add or delete messages from that folder while you're RO>> experimenting, otherwise restoring the old .tbi file will get get you RO>> a corrupted index. q> q> Done! The index was recreated and both messages (the "corrupt" and q> the reimported) showed up as they should! q> Now I have to see what is different in the .tbi files. q> Will not be around for some hours from now... q> See you. Been looking at line wrap and come to the conclusion that it either is the bat or freepopsd that creates datasallad with the head and the bodytext. There is NO linewrap NOR any empty line between the head and the bodytext, as shown in MY sourceviewer! Bellow header is NOT linewrapped in the header in MY ascii editor! (But should be in this mail...) ---begin example--- X-FreePOPs-User: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-FreePOPs-Domain: msn.com X-FreePOPs-Folder: ----0001 X-FreePOPs-MailServer: by105fd.bay105.hotmail.msn.com X-FreePOPs-ImageServer: http://gfx1.hotmail.com X-FreePOPs-MsgNumber: <1EA8044B-0FF9-4A05-BAD9-A4E16CF9A8B2> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Sending bulk emails
Hello Stuart, Friday, September 30, 2005, 2:37:00 PM, you wrote: Stuart> Hello Granville, Stuart> Friday, September 30, 2005, 4:58:55 AM, you wrote: >> Do you know of a mass mailing client that would work with The Bat!? One >> that could handle my mailing list of 2,000 subscribers. Stuart> I use a program called Groupmail. It is not free and as Roelof says it Stuart> does not work with TB! but is stand alone. It does a great job of what Stuart> it does mass mailing. I lets you send everything bcc if you want and Stuart> lets you merge with all kinds of info. I've just had a look at Groupmail. Is it possible to export my contacts from The Bat! into Groupmail? -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Duncan, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 12:16:41 PM, you wrote: > I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers > been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so > what features did you miss from The Bat? Virtually all of them :-) I found Thunderbird lacking in many respects... must be the way I work... -- Tony Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tonybro.com Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thunderbird
Hello Bat Lovers, Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 7:16:41 AM, you wrote: > I'm currently trying out Thunderbird (so far so good). I'm sure thers > been a few people on this list that have also tried it out too. If so > what features did you miss from The Bat? First I missed the entire concept of templates, no matter what kind it my be. Can't really see how to do without this, it is just to powerful a feature to do without. Secondly filtering. I currently filter a lot of mail the TB!. All of my business contacts are filtered for incoming and outgoing mail so all my mail is in one place. I found no way to filter outgoing mail in Thunderbird. Thirdly HTML rendering. I only switched to Thunderbird briefly because of TB! serious lack of development in this area. I had several people that send mail to me in this format and I needed to have a way to deal with it. We can whine and complain about HTML mail being the spawn of Satan all we want but the bottom line is that it is here to stay. The issue of not seeing images is a major concern. It is true we can open in a browser but why should we have to. This has been a major topic over the last few years and doesn't look like it will ever be implemented. My suggestion is allow the user to have a global setting to accept images of not. Maybe even accept on the level of the address book. After all, malicious code is not coming from out friends we trust. Also right now there is a reply problem to HTML (not quoted) that is annoying. -- Chuck Smith Using The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [uptime :: 1d 11h 34m] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Batty Math, G.W.Bush style [was Re: Inactive]
Hello Michael! On Friday, September 30, 2005, 8:17 AM, you wrote: >>> ... You are correct, Richard. Just checked and the last message I >>> got from this group was dated 23 Sept 2005. So you are right in >>> the fact that it has been almost a week now. >> 27 - 23 = 4 >> Do we call that George W. Bush math? > Speaking of George Bush Math :) > Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He > concludes by saying: > "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed." > "OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!" > His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously > watching as the President sits, head in hands. > Finally, the President looks up and asks, > "How many is a brazillion?" Thanks a mil, Michael!! :rofl2: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Sending bulk emails
Hello Granville, Friday, September 30, 2005, 4:58:55 AM, you wrote: > Do you know of a mass mailing client that would work with The Bat!? One > that could handle my mailing list of 2,000 subscribers. I use a program called Groupmail. It is not free and as Roelof says it does not work with TB! but is stand alone. It does a great job of what it does mass mailing. I lets you send everything bcc if you want and lets you merge with all kinds of info. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
Hallo Jenny, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:03:31 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 15:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J> I see you are using a newer version of The Bat! than mine, can I J> just upgrade? are there any precautions to be taken? You install the new version on top of the old version. It's not really necessary to take any special precautions, though a back-up before upgrading won't hurt a bit. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof AMIGA: A Merely Insignificant Game Addiction The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpL4TPBDmjEC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Inactive
Hello Tom, Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:17:59 AM, you wrote: > 27 - 23 = 4 > Do we call that George W. Bush math? > :) > -tom! Speaking of George Bush Math :) Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed." "OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!" His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands. Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" -- Best regards, Michaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
Hallo Gerard,
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:23:41 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 14:23 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
G> I have also suggest a while ago and option in the address book to select
G> the persons language but I have not heard anything about it. Its probably
G> going to be version 5 or higher before that happens :(
You can do that already, just by assigning an AB field that you don't
use to this purpose.
My favourite example is the pager number, hardly anybody uses pagers
anymore. So assign that field to contain the language. And with the
%ABToBusPager macro you can query that setting.
So this macro
%Language='%ABToBusPager="NL"'%-
will give you the language setting you inserted in the AB and it'll
give you Dutch when there's no language set in the AB.
Same thing goes for greetings in defined languages.
Create the QTs GreetNL and GreetBR (note that only the last part of
the name differs and where you'd like your greeting, insert something
like this:
%QInclude('Greet%ABToBusPager="NL"')
Makes it easy to add languages, just add the appropriate QTs for your
new language.
The only problem with this is when you're sending the same mail to
multiple contacts, not all of them with the same preferred language.
TB picks the setting from the first recipient. No problem when you're
writing to Marck and me, but definitely a problem when you're writing
to me and Marck.
--
Groetjes, Roelof
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Re[2]: Setting spelling language
Hello Gerard, Friday, September 30, 2005, 2:23:41 PM, you wrote: G> ON Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:48:12 PM, you wrote: JZ>> 1. Is a way I can assign a hot-key to this feature, so that I JZ>> don't have to pick up the mouse so often. JZ>> 2. Can I define the spelling language in a template? G> Hi Jenny, G> I have the same problem as you (and Roelof). G> What I have done is made templates for English an Dutch nationals and G> assigned them to different groups. I have then made Templates with the G> language macro setting the language in the template. G> This also gives you the possibility to make language specific greeting and G> quotes :) G> I have also suggest a while ago and option in the address book to select G> the persons language but I have not heard anything about it. Its probably G> going to be version 5 or higher before that happens :( Hi Gerard, I see you are using a newer version of The Bat! than mine, can I just upgrade? are there any precautions to be taken? -- Kind regards, Jenny Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
ON Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:48:12 PM, you wrote: JZ> 1. Is a way I can assign a hot-key to this feature, so that I JZ> don't have to pick up the mouse so often. JZ> 2. Can I define the spelling language in a template? Hi Jenny, I have the same problem as you (and Roelof). What I have done is made templates for English an Dutch nationals and assigned them to different groups. I have then made Templates with the language macro setting the language in the template. This also gives you the possibility to make language specific greeting and quotes :) I have also suggest a while ago and option in the address book to select the persons language but I have not heard anything about it. Its probably going to be version 5 or higher before that happens :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins. - Oliver Wendell Holmes (1841-1935) - Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
Hallo Jenny, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:48:12 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 12:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J> I write my e-mails in either English or Dutch, depending on who the J> recipient is. Somehow that sounds familiar. J> At the moment the only way I have to change the language is to J> click with the mouse on the language at the bottom of the edit J> message window. There are two things I would like to know J> 1. Is a way I can assign a hot-key to this feature, so that I J> don't have to pick up the mouse so often. J> 2. Can I define the spelling language in a template? I'm answering both questions in one. You can set the language for the spell checker with this macro: %Language="NL" You can substitute the NL (for Dutch) with AM or BR for American or British English. You can create quick templates (QT) that contain nothing else than %Language="NL"%- or %Language="BR"%- and assign a shortcut to these QTs. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'd Have Written Sooner But I Thought I Owed You Money. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpeGkEeb5t0K.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting spelling language
Jenny Zonneveld wrote: 2.Can I define the spelling language in a template? Yes, you can. Adding to the template %LANGUAGE='BR' will set the spelling check to British English, %LANGUAGE='FR' to French, %LANGUAGE='NL' to Dutch. I think you can also set languages per group, but Roelof will know more about that. -- Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hello wonderful Roelof Otten, den 30 september 2005, 12:30:54, du skrev: RO> Hallo qe3ee, RO> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:21:50 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 12:21 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: Q>> I was just thinking if there are some other code not in conjunction Q>> to the message (i.e in the -tbi section of the maildatabase) that I Q>> have to compare against? RO> In that case close TB RO> Delete (or move) the .tbi file from the folder with problem msgs RO> Start TB RO> See whether that helps. RO> When TB finds a folder without a messages.tbi file, it creates a new RO> one. However, things like memos, flags, etc are stored in the .tbi RO> file, so if you're using flags, memos or parked messages, you should RO> merely move it and restore it after your experiment. Take care that TB RO> doesn't add or delete messages from that folder while you're RO> experimenting, otherwise restoring the old .tbi file will get get you RO> a corrupted index. Done! The index was recreated and both messages (the "corrupt" and the reimported) showed up as they should! Now I have to see what is different in the .tbi files. Will not be around for some hours from now... See you. -- kind regards, qe3ee --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur --- if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting spelling language
Hello Everyone, I write my e-mails in either English or Dutch, depending on who the recipient is. At the moment the only way I have to change the language is to click with the mouse on the language at the bottom of the edit message window. There are two things I would like to know 1. Is a way I can assign a hot-key to this feature, so that I don't have to pick up the mouse so often. 2. Can I define the spelling language in a template? -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld The Bat! version 3.5.25 Windows platform Windows XP Version 5.1 build 2600 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hallo qe3ee, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:21:50 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 12:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Q> I was just thinking if there are some other code not in conjunction Q> to the message (i.e in the -tbi section of the maildatabase) that I Q> have to compare against? In that case close TB Delete (or move) the .tbi file from the folder with problem msgs Start TB See whether that helps. When TB finds a folder without a messages.tbi file, it creates a new one. However, things like memos, flags, etc are stored in the .tbi file, so if you're using flags, memos or parked messages, you should merely move it and restore it after your experiment. Take care that TB doesn't add or delete messages from that folder while you're experimenting, otherwise restoring the old .tbi file will get get you a corrupted index. -- Groetjes, Roelof Devoted to the art of cat-bathing as a martial art. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgprYkWGHt3hQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending bulk emails
Hallo Granville, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:58:55 +0100GMT (30-9-2005, 11:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GC> Do you know of a mass mailing client that would work with The Bat!? One GC> that could handle my mailing list of 2,000 subscribers. I'm not sure what you mean with 'work with The Bat!', clients aren't supposed to interact with clients, you need a server in between and TB is no server. -- Groetjes, Roelof Modem. A deterrent to phone solicitors. The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpEUzHQr4mGl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hello wonderful Roelof Otten, den 30 september 2005, 12:11:37, du skrev: RO> Hallo qe3ee, RO> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:47:03 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 11:47 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: Q>> Do you have some knowleage to share in how to find the messages Q>> inside a tbb with a program like WinHex? They show up as absolutely Q>> identical i sourceviewer. RO> Never done something like that, but .tbb files are basically text RO> files with some odd codes to separate the messages, so a RO> straightforward search should help to find it. RO> What happens when you move an unreadable message to another folder? RO> What happens when you export one of them: RO> Tools -> Export -> *.msg RO> and import it afterwards? RO> Tools -> Import -> *.msg RO> If the latter sequence still cannot be read, then you've got an easy RO> target for your WinHex. As I said the mail shows up just fine then exported as .msg and then reimported to the bat. I was just thinking if there are some other code not in conjunction to the message (i.e in the -tbi section of the maildatabase) that I have to compare against? -- kind regards, qe3ee --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur --- if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hallo qe3ee, On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:47:03 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 11:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Q> Do you have some knowleage to share in how to find the messages Q> inside a tbb with a program like WinHex? They show up as absolutely Q> identical i sourceviewer. Never done something like that, but .tbb files are basically text files with some odd codes to separate the messages, so a straightforward search should help to find it. What happens when you move an unreadable message to another folder? What happens when you export one of them: Tools -> Export -> *.msg and import it afterwards? Tools -> Import -> *.msg If the latter sequence still cannot be read, then you've got an easy target for your WinHex. -- Groetjes, Roelof sorry, I don't date outside my species The Bat! 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpeNGxoBNnJl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sending bulk emails
Hello Roelof, Thursday, September 29, 2005, 1:10:43 PM, you wrote: Roelof> Hallo Granville, Roelof> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:34:26 +0100GMT (29-9-2005, 1:34 +0200, where I Roelof> live), you wrote: GC>> I have a data base with approximately 2,000 members. Roelof> That's a lot. GC>> On the occasions that I need to mass mail my group I do so using GC>> The Bat!. Roelof> 2000 messages is a lot too. GC>> What happens if I have entered an email address into my data base GC>> which is incorrectly addressed then The Bat! refuses to send any GC>> of the other emails Roelof> TB tries to send the mails in the same order as they're in the queue, Roelof> it's only keeping track of what's being sent. As soon as the SMTP Roelof> server reports an error the transmission stops. But the error can be Roelof> manifold, too many messages in one session, connection out of sync, Roelof> illegal syntax, whatever. Roelof> It would be too much for TB to interpret the cause of the error and Roelof> act accordingly. So it keeps its queue and tries again during the next Roelof> connection. GC>> and I have to go through my entire data base to find the one GC>> email that is causing the problem. Roelof> That shouldn't be too hard, you should be able to find the offending Roelof> message via TB's log, here's an example: Roelof> ,- [ ] Roelof> | 29-9-2005, 13:50:48: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roelof> | 29-9-2005, 13:50:48: SEND - The last address submitted was <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roelof> | !29-9-2005, 13:50:48: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - mailbox not found Roelof> | 29-9-2005, 13:50:48: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent Roelof> | 29-9-2005, 13:50:48: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details Roelof> `- Roelof> A simple search option should help you out now. GC>> Why can't The Bat! send all the valid emails and leave the GC>> incorrect ones in the outbox. Roelof> Because it isn't as simple as that (I tried to explain that above) and Roelof> though TB has this nice mass mailing feature, it's not really up to Roelof> the challenge to act like a real mail server (because real servers can Roelof> do what you expect this client to do) for this kind of messages. GC>> This is what I would expect to happen from this email client. Or GC>> do I need to configure The Bat! to do this? Do you know of a mass mailing client that would work with The Bat!? One that could handle my mailing list of 2,000 subscribers. -- Love and Light, Granvillemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Odd mails in some newslists recieved through msn, hotmail via x-pop
Hello wonderful Roelof Otten, den 30 september 2005, 00:59:17, du skrev: RO> Hallo qe3ee, RO> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:35:25 +0200GMT (30-9-2005, 0:35 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: Q>> I'm short in english slang here: Q>> What do you mean by "offending message" to the tbbeta list? The word shows up Q>> as "insult" on Merriam-Webster: RO> An offending message would be a message that does something bad, RO> breaks a law or whatever. In this case that would be a message that RO> refuses to be viewed. RO> (An insulting message would be offensive) RO> The idea was to send one of these messages that don't show via MIME RO> forwarding to the tbbeta list. RO> I don't know whether you're subscribed to the tbbeta list, but as you RO> were talking about a failing in a beta version I'm supposed to point RO> to tbbeta, as betas are off topic here on tbudl. (If I don't point to RO> tbbeta, Marck and Leif will take my moderator license away ) RO> However, now you're mentioning the same same behaviour in 3.51.10 and RO> if I'm not mistaken that was a regular release. Thank you for the language lesson and yes the the bat 3.51.10 is a regulare version. The behavior doesn't make sence. The messagesource "looks" similare in both messages when viewed inside the bat as well outside. Do you have some knowleage to share in how to find the messages inside a tbb with a program like WinHex? They show up as absolutely identical i sourceviewer. -- kind regards, qe3ee --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur --- if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions about latest TB
Hi On Friday 9 September 2005 at 1:04:44 AM, in , Michael Rudnick wrote: > If I switch it to Plain text it's the same old messed up text. That happens here with OE too. -- Best regards, MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Thread by Sender
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:35:09 -0700 GMT, Tom wrote: >> As you can se all the mails from each sender is grouped but I will not >> see the Subject or Received date of the last e-mail without expanding >> each thread. > in your view mode setup do you have "group by date" checked, by any > chance? I don't particularly care for that setting myself, but my > experiments with it made it sound like what you describe. Nope, and if I set this option I get the same result, with the difference that the mails for each sender is also grouped by date. > Alternatively, do you have "new thread sorting" checked, and does > inverting it make any difference? I have been wondering about this, and the only actual effect of this option that I have found has been that if checked threads are sorted by the newest mail in the thread (so that the thread with the newest reply gets on the top). If not checked the threads are sorted by the "starting" mail. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Thunderbird
30 September 2005 - 07:58 Hello Tom, Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:14:25 AM, you wrote: TP> http://www.0spam.com What's in it for them? Or am I being cynical? -- Best regards, William Flying with The Bat! Professional version 3.60.07 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
