Re: Incredimail testimonials ?
Hi Wil, Hi Wil Friday, May 26, 2006, 4:27:42 PM, you wrote: > She wants to install Incredimail. > I do not have any opinion, but just afraid about spyware and trojans or > worms... Spyware > during install, and worms and trojans during using it, and for recipients of > mails made by > Incredimail ! > In 2 words : is it dangerous using Incredimail, for the User himself, and for > his friends > (recipients) ? I've installed Incredimail for my Kids to use and I've not had any problems with Spyware etc. Incredimail is OK if you like pretty backgrounds, typewriter sound effects while you're typing and so on, but it hasn't got anywhere near the raw power of TB. -- Regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.80.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [unclassified] Re: Stopping Virtual folders from marking read
Hi Chris, Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 5:24:06 AM, you wrote: >> I've set all my accounts up to only mark as read when the message is >> opened up in a new window but I can't seem to find this option for >> virtual folders. > Account Properties -> Options -> Uncheck "Mark messages as read..." > Does that do it? Aha! Success! Many Thanks.I hadn't thought of virtual folders having account properties. And separate templates for virtual folders too - that makes them even more useful. -- Regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.80.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello admin, Thursday, July 1, 2004, 5:20:40 PM, you wrote: aacu> If anyone has the energy and perspicacity to see their way through the aacu> trials and tribulations I have been through I would welcome realistic aacu> advice. aacu> The document lists my set up and the techniques I have tried and the aacu> problems that militate against using them. >Set DT to not delete email >-- >If I tell the DT not to delete mail from the server - so that the LT >can download it as well - then I have the email on both machines but >if I delete on one, it is not deleted on the other. To have the complete options to manipulate mail and folders and have the same content from several machines which could be moved anywhere at any time does not seem possible with POP3. There would need to be some sense of how you would let it be limited from normal operations. Like some perspective on how often you'd want to do certain common operations, reading, sending, etc. And it doesn't sound like it would do. Only if you could do with some subset of normal operation might you try some of these options. None of these options you cited involve operating on the same mailstore. So it won't be identical. It would only be a question how similar content you might do with, or how much extra time you might allot for making copies of the folders. I guess NTFS cannot be changed to FAT32. But someone should have some opinion on what is going on there. I'm using FAT32. But it seems handy for you to provide these observations since there may be others who wish to try the same things. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:49:55 PM, you wrote: s> Well, good for you! I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is s> In time I will more than likely "take the plunge", but I'm wondering s> how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time s> there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? It s> would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period s> of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software s> houses. I don't think RIT is like those other software houses in that respect. But there are frequently new releases. And they go by small fractional steps in the version numbers. The seminal release last year however did request a priced upgrade. MB>> If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to MB>> all 2.xx users. s> I'm not quite sure I understand ... the handy routine is free if I s> upgrade? Do I pay for the "actual upgrade", i.e., from Version 2.00.x s> to Version 2.11.x? I would think so, but since I haven't been into s> upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know. If you are a 1.xx series owner, then I think you would pay the upgrade price for the 2.xx series. I think just early 2.0 TB versions, such as the one you are running, were like Betas. Or final "pre-releases". Maybe to try for a period. Memory is hazy. So the client you are running now is like a full glass of water, but without the cool ice, and the fresh slice of lemon. It may have some variations in routine. So I guess most of us forgot the details on that release phase. You had it right all along it was a version issue. I doubt most people would think of that when you have a list of very standardized fields or menu items. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello subscriber2list, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:47:21 PM, you wrote: s> I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject s> field to read "This is only a test ...". s> Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no s> "Follow-up" menu selection was offered. Oh well ... Ok. That would be different then. On mine, I can see From: at the top and these two at the bottom: Follow up: Return-path: On mine, I can see 12 header items listed in this menu. How many for you? Cyrille has revealed that this list is available in at least two places. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello subscriber2list, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 3:19:01 PM, you wrote: GS>> Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new GS>> thread. Common courtesy I think. GS>> Just like I've done with this message. s> I may be missing something here, but I tried the steps you enumerated s> and when I got to step #2, under View menu option, I found no s> Follow-up menu selection. Now I'm using an older version of The Bat!, s> V 2.0. Might that be the reason? Don't think so. You just have to start a Reply first. That should help. You should find it there somewhere on the menu. As for 3, as soon as you click on the new field displayed, all text there should be highlighted. If it gets unhighlighted, you can highlight all again with the keyboard by cursoring down and up between the fields. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 1:26:20 PM, you wrote: >> You already answered this. But if you say OR between the two Tabs on >> the window, its feels odd. AM> Why? ;) Some differing expectation. Hard to define expectations. And most of the tabs are options. Like extra parameters. >> But then the alternates don't create a list, one below the other. AM> It can. By that, I mean string1 string2 string3 But as I understand now, that will forget about the _required_ string, if I just place it one place. TB would probably expect to find all of the strings at the same time. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternative filters
Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 11:34:55 AM, Allie Martin wrote: >> If I set a filter string which must be found in matching messages, and >> several other strings either one of which also should be in matched >> messages, how is it that you may set that up? For some reason how I >> was trying this, all messages are filtered by the rule and moved. AM> Ok. You need to do the following: AM> Under the Rules Tab, define the string which must always match. AM> Click the Add button and define one of the other strings that should AM> also match. This works very well. But, say I don't click the Add button here to add the second string. How does it think about the filter? It seems to let most everything through. The first required string is there in most cases. Like, if I call the first string "_required_" to put on the Rule tab and I number the alternate possible strings, string1, and string2, say, then how does it make a conclusion in any case, or when neither string1 nor string2 is present? You already answered this. But if you say OR between the two Tabs on the window, its feels odd. It is another logic than just: string1 OR string2. And I did get that when I added two strings in just the main Rule tab. Like: _required_ string1 | string2 But then the alternates don't create a list, one below the other. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternative filters
I was just experimenting a bit, and I am not certain I follow how to interpret the Alternatives tab in the Sorting Office. If I set a filter string which must be found in matching messages, and several other strings either one of which also should be in matched messages, how is it that you may set that up? For some reason how I was trying this, all messages are filtered by the rule and moved. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: open all threds command bug?
Hello Roelof, Friday, June 25, 2004, 10:41:34 AM, you wrote: M>> On my laptop, neither of the commands works. They do nothing it seems. M>> I am sorting by References. > That's a known issue, since you're supposed to use the * on the > numerical keypad and that's lacking on (most) laptops. With a smaller keyboard, a numeric keypad should still be mapped somewhere. The '*' is on the numeric keypad. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: open all threds command bug?
Hello Jan, Friday, June 25, 2004, 9:31:44 AM, you wrote: > On my system, shortcut * no longer opens all msgs in > folder. > Can anyone confirm? I can kind of confirm. I certainly notice occasionally I ^* to open all threads, and TB fails to respond to that. And it stays that way till I close a window, or close TB. After which the keystroke starts working again. I am not sure if that is a general bug, or fixed in recent TB releases. Haven't tried enough to find out. Most of the time it works fine. It is fairly easy not to remember to give the message list focus too. So it often seems like nothing is happening anyway. Oh, I could answer your first question another way. > On my system, shortcut * no longer opens all msgs in It won't open all messages, because it is supposed to close all messages (threads). :-) I just use * to open all threads (or metaphorically speaking, all the messages). ^ is a common symbol to abbreviate holding down a Control key while pressing another key. Although sometimes too brief in normal paragraphs. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering...
Hello WilWilWil, Friday, June 25, 2004, 5:03:27 AM, you wrote: > I've made a filter who deletes the mails of peoples I know they are spammers. The The power of thy sword is the mightiest that elvish men have beheld. > filter works well but I manage 8 accounts in TB. I don't want to create this > filter 8 times. Because if I have to edit the rule, I will have to do this 8 > times ! Is there a way to make a kind of "Super" filter who is enabled for all > accounts ? Afraid not. > If not, a way to copy a filter from an account to an other ? Here is such an application: http://tirna.narod.ru/soft/tbfc.htm The webpage does not seem very responsive. Not sure why. But it comes. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v2
Hello Jan-Robin, Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:22:10 PM, you wrote: JRS> Hello, JRS> when I upgrade to 2.11.02 from 1.63/beta 11 the connection (POP3) to my e-mail JRS> provider (fastmail) becomes very, very slow (not more then 20-30 kB/s JRS> with a 3Mbit line), when I switch back to 1.63 / beta 11 the JRS> connection is very fast. How is it you measure that speed? I didn't notice TB reporting a speed for download of mail. I can't compare with that experience. JRS> SMTP works fine, fasmtail says "no problem on our servers". JRS> Any ideas? You restored the same account settings? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Empty temp folders Re: Problem with v2
Hello Mary, Saturday, June 19, 2004, 5:50:26 PM, you wrote: MB> Allie, I just put this on my machine, using your URL. It might have MB> saved me from two days of searching, when I couldn't figure out why my MB> attachment icons in received messages wouldn't respond last week. MB> Emptying TB!'s .tmp files solved the difficulty. MB> However, I can't understand the User Interface yet. I'm going to have MB> a look at the Help file. Thanks for the tip! If you click the rightmost big icon ? it brings up help. The Quick Start says you can start by going to the Options menu, and Add predefined folders. Right at the top of this window is my main temp folder. And there are lots of others to choose from. You add them by clicking the checkbox. Once they are added, you can click one of the thunderbolt like icons to remove their contents. This removes items from the left lower pane. (If you click a particular temp folder on the right pane, in the files list, and then click Empty Selected Folder, it won't just delete that one, it will delete all the folder contents that are selected on the left pane.) There is also an icon to let you go to the selected folder in Windows Explorer. So you don't have to check it out manually, if you wanted. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mailing list address
Hello Feli, Saturday, June 19, 2004, 8:41:34 PM, you wrote: >> I saw mention on here sometime back about another mailing list for TB. >> I tried searching the archives but using the term "mailing list" >> returns pretty much everything. Does anyone have an address for that >> list? FW> have a look at the footer: FW> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html, they are all FW> described there. Maybe he was looking for the mailing lists in other languages. Was there a site listing them too? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If I set up The Bat on a network...
Hello Peter, Saturday, June 19, 2004, 9:37:54 PM, you wrote: PO> - setting up your own email server, with proper access rights Is that just a software matter? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If I set up The Bat on a network...
Hello admin, Saturday, June 19, 2004, 6:58:32 PM, you wrote: aacu> If I set The Bat up so that the Laptop is a client and the Desktop is aacu> a Server then when I go away for a week and want to access email aacu> directly on the laptop... aacu> How I would I do that? If you are talking about the TCP/IP modes listed under Network and Administration, I don't think that relates to what you were discussing. (I could be wrong) What you are asking about is how to access a single mail base from more than one machine. The only protocol that provides that is IMAP. Anything else would have some issues. If you still use POP, then you'd have to access the same files to have the same effect. If you were away for a week, I guess you'd need to copy all the mail base files and take them with you first. And when you returned, you would copy all the mail base files back. I don't think too many people do that. But you'd then have everything the very same in both places. I guess you want to try out all the options. And see what suits you best. And if there seem some shortfalls in how it works out still, you can pose them. With the speed of wired and wireless networks these days, things are probably not too constricting. Just try everything. You were saying, how you had it, that outgoing mails were filtered to the Sent folder. It sounds like where most people would want them placed. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello admin, Friday, June 18, 2004, 6:41:17 PM, you wrote: aacu> I am getting very frustrated with the various methods of aacu> 'synchronising' The Bat betwen two machines. aacu> B - I tried the seting up of Machine 1 to send BCC of all outgoing aacu> mails, not delete them from the server and then Machine 2 collects aacu> them and complicatedly filters them to the Sent folder. Maybe you want to explain what was the issue you are referring to for B. You are saying mails are 'complicatedly filtered'. But what is the issue you are posing here does not seem clear to me. Someone else will need to address A. aacu> All's well until one accidentally synchroinises account settings - all aacu> the careful setting up is chucked out. These are like settings, like your mail address, and your mail server name, and such? aacu> C - Neither of these would be a huge problem with one or even two aacu> email accounts but with 42 - it's an impossibility unles I empliyed aacu> someone full-timeto manage it !! ;-)) aacu> D - An automatic file-copy synchronise application I run a thte end of aacu> each day te ensure that work I've done on the desk-top is always aacu> duplicated on to the Laptop will not work with The Bat becasue the aacu> Laptop has decided to make the MAIL directory Read-Only and I cannot aacu> get it to be otherwise (a known issue with XP Pro apparently - and all aacu> Internet sourced cures are to no avail). I never heard of that. I don't really use XP much. But, I was able to check your observation. And it appears to be true, on XP, I noticed that the root TB mail folder is set as Read-only. As well as most other folders beneath it. But, if you are just copying files, how is there a problem? aacu> SO aacu> My plan is simply to delete the entire contents of the MAIL directory aacu> on the Laptop and copy the entire contents of the Desktop mail aacu> directory in its place. Wallop - just like that. Sure thing. Go to it. :-) What are the plans here? aacu> Anything I should know before I do that? Are there any other files aacu> that keep a record of the number of emails or some obscure settings aacu> related to the MAIL directory hidden away elsewhere that will then aacu> conflict with a new MAIL directory suddenly appearing? I think the directory is completely replaceable. You just need to transfer the registry key also. What operating systems are the two machines using? aacu> OF COURSE - if the system suggested to be able to selectively chasnge aacu> account settings using a global tick box system were implemented the aacu> whole panjandrujm would be much easier especially re option B above. This second word is probably not an English word I'm guessing. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible with template?
Hello Roelof, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 7:01:20 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Charles, > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +0200GMT (13-6-2004, 22:32 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: CMG>> I like the other person's suggestion more: Bottom of the screen, and it CMG>> can be right clicked to switch accounts just like Apple Mail. > That won't help you when you've got 30 or 40 addresses all handled by > the same account. How is that possible? > I used to work with two accounts, both with the same account address, > but with one account strictly for archiving purposes. My main account > had about 30 or 40 addresses that it handled. > Two weeks ago I got myself a new pc and only my main account got > copied to this system. I'm not sure how to handle my archiving now. > (I'm still archiving stuff at my server, though.) Is that by requesting two copies of everything you intend to receive? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
Hello Kathy, Saturday, June 12, 2004, 5:40:30 PM, you wrote: KD> What software would one use to sync TheBat! emails to the Palm? I KD> currently have VersaMail and InBoxToGo, but can't seem to get them KD> to work with TheBat! Just using the Palm Desktop software that syncs everything. They have no reference to The Bat when you pick the mail app to sync. I just picked Outlook Express. That works. My Palm is pretty old. So things may have changed in the meantime. There is a Palm .ini file you need to edit. Probably somewhere in a Palm subdirectory. In certain fields in the .ini file you choose which TB account you wish to use. Try the FAQ. Here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Robin, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:47:40 PM, you wrote: > On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:09:14 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: >> I am going to study the Windows XP Home Help site and see if I can >> find out how to locate the path for %TEMP%\bat\ > Open a command prompt window (Start -> Run -> type in cmd and press > enter) then at the command prompt type "set" (without quotes) and press > enter. That will show you all the environment variables including TEMP. It does indeed. This directory does seem to be given in the MS-DOSified form, of having each folder name compacted below 9 letters per folder or filename. But it is still quite workable. It appears I do have quite a few 0 KB bat temp files myself. A real long list, all created in March. All hexadecimally numbered. I wonder what they're counting? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
Hello Michael, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:36:29 AM, you wrote: MW> I am about to buy a Palm Pilot to be a little more organized :) MW> Do you know, if I can sync MW> a) my mails Yes. MW> b) my contacts This has been heavily discussed in the past. Check the archives. MW> c) my appointments TB does not deal with appointments. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Add a contact
When I click to add an address to the address book, and add this address, I find later I can't find the address. It seems that if I do it again, add to address book, I notice something under the Groups field in the Address book entry window. It seems to always pick something. I am not sure how. How would you ensure that it won't add an address to some abandoned address group? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduler
Hello Graham, Friday, June 4, 2004, 3:56:59 AM, you wrote: GD> Hello all Bat users, GD> first time on the list so please excuse the newbie questions. GD> Coming from Outlook where I relied on the Calendar a lot I am GD> finding that the Scheduler is "not as good" in fact I'm using GD> Firefox with the Calendar add-in for scheduling and reminders. GD> Problem 1: If I select a date in the future then Insert a new GD> task it always defaults to the current date, not the selected date. GD> Is there a setting somewhere that can change this ? I don't think so. The interface is only young. It only remains to speculate where it might branch off. Is it best to duplicate the same functionality in current scheduling/calendaring applications many people use, like Outlook? Or should it advance features in some other peculiar way? GD> Problem 2: Tasks that have been completed still remain in the list Well, aren't you the busy little scheduler? :-) Maybe because they aren't sure if they are tasks, or events? And if tasks, there's no way to say that one is completed. GD> Is there a way to get a view of the current month ? You mean like, a wide screen calendar display? I don't think so. I think Outlook has the displaying calendars domain pretty well covered. GD> Appreciate any help with these problems as I'm still trying GD> to find my way around all the menu's and cool features Try the Menu Navigator for this. It's just next to the Close And Restore buttons, at the far top right corner. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Odd effect change account name
I have a feeling this might sound too technical. But, I was just now renaming an account. Just click on Properties, type a new name, and shortly, a window comes on screen. It seems to be alerting to some trouble. The window offers two pathnames, and declares that: The system could not find the path specified It gives the path to some specific folder on the account, first listed under the old account name, and a second line, same path, but with the new account name. So, I could only acknowledge the window. And then came two more, just like it, for two other mailboxes. One of them was the outbox. Does that make any sense to anyone? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rebate for a second license?
Hello Jurgen, Wednesday, June 2, 2004, 4:44:38 PM, you wrote: >> I'm not informed about the actual pricing policy. I remember, that you >> only had to pay the difference for upgrading the key in former times >> though. I hope it's still the same...? You might try element5 (current >> German distributor) instead of Cifnet. JH> I am using the personal lic here at home, and I am about to switch jobs, and I JH> might have the chance of using TB! at my new place (not sure yet, but if it can JH> connect to Exchange, which I think I read one it does) and I need that Business JH> lic _in addition_. So a simple upgrade won't do for me. There are the different licenses listed at Cifnet. But, they don't detail differences. Can you explain what differences there are? Or is it somehow a shareware standard that is always understood, to say what types of users a license accommodates? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: enabling "copy-to" and "move-to" folders while reading messages
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 2:38:52 PM, you wrote: MDP>> The buttons are not the same functions we are talking about. One is MDP>> "Copy" - clearly about copying text content to the clipboard. The MDP>> other is "Copy to...", but I'm not sure where it goes / what it MDP>> does. > Mark some text in the message. Now go to Edit / Copy and Copy To... > The first will copy the marked text to Clipboard, the second to a > *.txt file of your choice. Maybe then these buttons are only for the Edit window. As where I am typing now. And don't do anything on the view message window. Thus, as soon as you move to reply to a message about this topic, the ambiguity vanishes. But while you are only reading messages, the ambiguity returns. :-) So, if that was true, these buttons have no function on the view message window. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam
Hello Philip, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:34:12 PM, you wrote: A>> How can you tell what the score was given to an e-mail? PS> There are some logs it produces - on NT/2K/XP systems, they're stored PS> in \Documents and Settings\\Application Data\BayesIt - look That's it. Or ..\batmail\bayesit on mine. I also found another Bayesit folder in Program files\The Bat!. No log file there though. It this place of interest too? PS> for BayesIt.log, and ~BayesIt.log - the latter is a temporary log PS> which will be merged back with the main logfile when you close The PS> Bat!... I just found one log file "BayesIt.log". PS> Nope. What version of BayesIt is reported? (It'll be the second column PS> in the list of Anti-Spam plugins) PS> I'm running 0.5.4 0.4g A>> Is the base of statistics visible to the user? PS> Not in any human-readable format as far as I know. :-( Are all plugins like that? So you can't find out the score given to an email? I can't click on this message here I am replying to, and see a score of 100? A fine example of a non-UCE message. Or maybe 90, since it contains the word spam. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam
Hello Philip, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 5:57:30 PM, you wrote: PS> The most common anti-spam plugin for The Bat! (BayesIt) primarily uses PS> a statistical analysis of the email - it looks for words that are PS> common to spam, but not to legitimate email. PS> In your example, the words "all for nothing" are perhaps important - PS> if you don't get legitimate emails regularly that contain them, then PS> they'll get assigned a greater weight of spamminess. PS> The actual spamminess score of the whole email is calculated by PS> looking at how many words in the mail are common spam words, and how PS> many aren't - notice how many spams are very short? They'll score PS> highly. Whereas that legitimate email from a cable TV company will be PS> long - it'll have lots of details, some boilerplate legal stuff, and PS> so forth. So the email as a whole scores much lower. I was using the menu items for marking junk. But so far it hadn't had a clear effect. It moved the messages I was on to a Junk mail folder. But it did not act on later mail. How can you tell what the score was given to an e-mail? Let's say I go to the Bat Preferences/ Anti-Spam. At the top, it says Anti-Spam plugins. And in the white box, it says BayesIt! Does this mean it is currently doing spam processing? If I click F1 now, it says: "The topic does not exist. Contact your application vendor for an updated Help file." Now, if I move along, and manage to click Configure, I get another menu of buttons. The top button seems to be asking me what language I would like to use. Now, I guess that is very friendly. Although, spam seems to be multi-national, doesn't it? And it doesn't matter whose inbox it flies into, or what country they may live. It is the same class of a thing in any case. Now, If I try this button here, I get a screen and it says I can pick a language from a list. But there does not seem to be a list from which a selection can be made. Is this the same for you? PS> Not necessarily. You can use systems like POPFile with The Bat!, but PS> personally I don't see much value in doing so. Filters that sit in PS> front of mail clients (like POPFile) take longer to train and are much PS> less likely to build up a good base of statistics that show what your Is the base of statistics visible to the user? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti-spam
I am not using a recent TB version too much. But, it isn't clear, does it have a complete solution against spam on board? It seems like you have a couple menu entries. But you wonder, where is the intelligence? It's not fighting spam already. If you get a message like: Cable_TV Filter Lets You Get It ALL_FOR_NOTHING, IF: b1hgq16776 Then I guess you can suggest that this is a spam message. And later, how is one to know if you get a message from a cable company, that it isn't a newsletter about cable TV? Do anti-spam tools used in the Bat work with, or do they obsolesce other anti-spam applications? Sorry for the basic questions. But I'd get to get the facts straight in my mind. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti-spam
Is there any website that details anti-spam basics with tb? There seem to be so many tools, that I am not sure where is the route to think about. Are tools there to complement each other, or just for a variety of options? You feel like testing new methods with like a test account or something. But you don't really expect to get any spam with a new account. So, there's just a small hesitance for experimenting. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import same account
Hello Marck, Friday, May 21, 2004, 1:44:21 PM, you wrote: A>> I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB from A>> another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me have two of A>> the same accounts, different contents? Would it try to overwrite the A>> contents of one account with the contents of another? MDP> What do you mean "import"? TB can't import entire accounts. Yes. Excuse me. I meant straight Backup. And then Tools/Restore on this TB installation. So "import" an entire TB account that was just saved via the menu Tools/Backup. I don't know if it would accommodate two accounts that are the same. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Import same account
I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB from another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me have two of the same accounts, different contents? Would it try to overwrite the contents of one account with the contents of another? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 10:00:15 PM, you wrote: GS> I am not running notepad. I'm running 7-Zip command line interface. Just simplifying example to a bare minimum. A>> And running it at the command line, should leave The Bat! application A>> running, the Command Prompt window still running, and it will await A>> you until The Bat! closes. GS> My tests were in sharp contrast to this last statement. 7-Zip continued GS> to run the backup from the command line WHILE TB was open, and did NOT GS> wait until TB closed. Sorry then. I can't duplicate that effect on any OS I tried. Unless you mean that you started TB yourself. And then ran the exact backup file you posted. In which case, the presumed question I am guessing may be, how to tell if TB was running, and quit it. Which is not the same question as I followed from this thread. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 9:09:41 PM, you wrote: GS> I tried it twice. The batch file continued to run after TB started. Yeah, that is what should happen. So it can run more commands later. GS> What GS> can I say? If you don't believe me and have WinXP Pro, then take my I wouldn't be so bold as to say "I don't believe you" :-) GS> batch file and place in c:\program files\the bat!, download 7-Zip, and GS> run it yourself. I didn't see a reference about running The Bat! in your batch file. So I am not sure if I follow so well now. Maybe you can explain. I did note you set the path in your batch file. So in that case, if you ran it. And you were at the command line, adding only this in a batch file: thebat.exe notepad.exe And running it at the command line, should leave The Bat! application running, the Command Prompt window still running, and it will await you until The Bat! closes. Maybe the intention was a bit different as you were interpreting in running the 100 line program you posted. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 6:13:23 PM, you wrote: GS> Hello Adam, GS> Sunday, May 16, 2004, 1:51:21 PM, Adam wrote: GS>>> If TB has no way to call a batch file on exit, does anybody know how to GS>>> create this functionality? A>> No problem. TB is just one program in your batch file. Put it at the A>> top, and the rest of the commands will run along after. GS> I did try this but the command box window closed before exiting the TB. GS> Any other ideals. Huh? I'd have to, shrug here. Take a batch file like this. File "batch-tb.bat": "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" C:\WINNT\system32\notepad.exe It will not launch Notepad, until I quit The Bat! myself. If batch files were going to go on to the next command, before they finished the last one, then you'd get a notice about Copying Files Completed, when it only just started. And you could be deleting all your files, before they get copied. It'd be chaos. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 2:11:50 PM, you wrote: GS> I also use a grandfather, father, son backup routine which Marck posted GS> on TBOT. This keeps the grandfather backup and rotates the father / son GS> backup. It is a complete backup from start to finish, and takes about 20 GS> minutes to run on my PC (P4 2.4 Ghz with 500 MB RAM). I'll post the GS> batch file below and you can modify to your TB configuration. GS> If TB has no way to call a batch file on exit, does anybody know how to GS> create this functionality? No problem. TB is just one program in your batch file. Put it at the top, and the rest of the commands will run along after. What was the Subject of the original discussion on Tbot? GS> ===Incremental b/u TB.Bat>> GS> Path C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\7-ZIP;C:\Program Files\The Bat! GS> regedit /e "X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg" hkey_current_user\software\rit GS> copy X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg This can't be from a working batch file. Since many of your pathnames are not quoted. So the later ones should fail. GS> @Echo off GS> Echo GS> Echo * !! Updating Backup Archive of TB-Mail!! * GS> Echo * Mail located in X:\AppsBase\MAIL* GS> Echo * (Mail Base is X:\TBArchives\tbMail7z.7z) * GS> Echo GS> x: GS> cd x:\ GS> 7z u -ms=off x:\TBArchives\tbMail_X_7z.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 "AppsBase\MAIL\*" -r What would be the meaning of this part? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scan folder properties
When you close out TB, it goes through some purging. A little menu on screen, with fast text progress, and its just a flicker to your eye. If you have an account that wasn't used for a while, or a backup, you may not recall how you have anything set up. And it's best not to make any change when you quit. So, any idea how to search for unusual folder properties? Some might have , On Exit: Remove messages. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Other spam catching systems
Hi On 26 April 2004 at 22:15 Dave Gorman said: >> I want something to sit between The Bat and the various POP servers >> that will identify as best it can, any Spam and let it through to me >> marked as such so I can filter it and check it once in a while for >> mis-categorized spam. > After a short training period, I've had very good results with POPFile > (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/). I second that. My installation of POPFile is currently running at a whisper short of 99% accuracy. It's quite a shock these days when I actually get a spam message in my regular mail. The great thing about POPFile is that you can set up any number of categories - not just spam and ham - and use it for general mail classification. It adds a custom header or a tag to the subject (or both if you so desire) so it's a piece of cake to filter in The Bat - or any other POP3 e-mail client for that matter. As an experiment I've been running BayesIt and POPFile side-by-side and POPFile always catches spams that BayesIt misses The one downside is the POPFile, as its name suggests, can only handle POP3 accounts. IMAP support is on the agenda but it isn't expected anytime soon. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account Tree and scroll bar
Hi On 24 April 2004 at 23:50 Richard Wakeford said: > Hello, > Just come across a very small but totally repeatable bug. > Select "View/Toolbars/Configuration" and all works fine. However, remove > the Configuration toolbar and the Account tree scroll bar refuses to > work. It's still possible to run across the visible folders with the > mouse but not possible to scroll further up or down to the top or bottom > of the account folders. Same thing happens with me too. It is possible to scroll down the tree by using single clicks on the down arrow, but it doesn't scroll at all smoothly. Clicking on the up arrow simply selects the top folder currently in view. > Only a closedown and restart clears it. I found that re-enabling the configuration bar clears the problem -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange preview pane behavior
Hi On 20 April 2004 at 12:17 Terry said: > Upgraded to 2.10 the other day and have noticed some different > behaviour while scrolling through long messages in the preview pane. > if I attempt to click a link or select some > text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the > message and text is selected from the point where I tried to click in > the message back up to the bottom line that's now displayed in the > preview pane. I'm having the same problem (I also have an MX500) I have found that it only occurs the first time that I click within the preview pane. After that everything works as it should. When I change to a different message in the same folder (or a different one) the problem happens again the first time I click somewhere in the preview. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 18 April 2004 at 02:46 Peter Ouwehand said: AC>> I completely misunderstood what the Message Source AC>> filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message AC>> originated. Thinking about it logically though, why have that if AC>> you've already got a Sender filter? > Well, you asked about VF-filtering on something in a msg (header). > At the moment, I don't understand what you mean with 'Sender filer' Sorry, that was a rhetorical question based on my (false) assumption that Message Source is where the message originated. If that was the case, it would be redundant because there is an option to filter on Sender. Your previous reply answered my query perfectly - many thanks. Thanks too to Miguel and Allie who took the trouble to reply. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 18 April 2004 at 01:35 Peter Ouwehand said: > I just tried a VF looking for @fractalz.net in the msg source. It showed > me 16 msgs. Thanks for that. I completely misunderstood what the Message Source filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message originated. Thinking about it logically though, why have that if you've already got a Sender filter? -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stop checking email when the network disappears
Hi On 17 April 2004 at 19:53 Mary Bull said: > Yes. And global across all accounts would be a useful option for other > account settings also. TB! is already so flexible and wonderful, but > it could definitely be made more so. Closely related to this, I feel it would be useful when creating a new account to have the option of basing it on an existing account rather than having to start from scratch each time. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 17 April 2004 at 22:31 Perry Nelson said: > You can group messages into the virtual folder by any filter you > choose. One thing that seems to be missing in the filters for virtual folders is you can't filter on a string. I use POPFile to classify my mail and after it was explained what virtual folders are (thanks all those who replied) I thought I could set-up a VF for each of POPFile's buckets. When I started looking into it I realized that you can't filter on POPFile's classification header. I know I could work around this, for example assigning a colour group to each bucket and filtering on that or by using POPFile's subject modification facility. I think, however, that being able to search for a string in any of the headers or the body would be useful. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Vitual Folders
Hi On 17 April 2004 at 02:01 rich gregory said: > Does anyone know if the failure of the TRASH to clean itself of old > messages has been fixed? Seems to work OK, but thenI hadn't noticed a problem with the previous version. I found one trash folder in one of my accounts that hadn't been set to clear old messages, clicked the relevant boxes and exited TB. When I launched TB again, the old messages were gone. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Vitual Folders
Hi All I have just downloaded v2.1 and I see that it now has support for virtual folders - Great! erm... forgive me if I seem ignorant, but what are virtual folders, and how can I use them to enrich my life? The web site and help file are strangely quiet on the subject. -- Many Thanks Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile (was Re:Bayesit plugin and filters executing order)
Hi On 07 April 2004 at 07:48 Allister Jenks said: > Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 10:44:29 AM, dAniel wrote: dh>> I for myself use POPFile, which uses the same approach (Bayesian) > I also used POPFile for quite a while, and I was very impressed with its > performance. What stopped me using it was the proliferation of > virus-laden emails around September last year. > I was running AVG with th TB! plugin and that was popping up a message > for each nasty email, but also POPFile was storing the messages in its > own database and AVG was constantly finding them in there and alerting > me - both when it originally arrived and sometimes later also. I've simply turned off "Confirmation" and "Ask What to Do Next" in the AVG Control Centre and virus laden emails are quietly sent to the quarantine folder without bothering me at all. Now all I've got to do is find a way of getting TB to automatically mark quarantined messages as Read. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sizing folder list from keyboard
Hello Steve, Tuesday, December 30, 2003, 9:39:38 PM, you wrote: SMS> me, my folder list decided to take up half the screen today forcing SMS> my other columns to be cut off. Although I can adjust column widths SMS> via the view message columns settings, I can't figure out how to SMS> adjust the folder list. When I had a similar issue, I I was advised SMS> to back up TB's registry keys. I did this, however, restoring them SMS> didn't seem to solve this particular problem -- perhaps I didn't SMS> bacck up all the keys? Did you resolve the problem? Seemed like you identified the probable cause. Did you quit TB before you changed the registry? I believe another way to try would be playing with View/Split Mode. But your first attempt should work. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backing up
Hello Darrin, Thursday, January 1, 2004, 11:42:34 AM, you wrote: D> Hi, D> Im using a trial version of "Back up now 3" from www.ntius.com. What D> files in TB! would I want to back up so that everything is backed up D> the same way as it is by doing the backup within the TB! program D> itself Click on Options/Preferences System tab. At the top is the location where your mail is stored. - Quit TB - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the complete branch -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re-send doesn't store when re-sent
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 28, 2003, 10:04:34 PM, you wrote: >> The Bat is very best at representing a lot of details from all the >> delivery process. So it's easy to second-check if mail was from a >> spammer, or a commercial source, or your friend. The received mail >> has full information. Surely it is a bug if the sent mail is lacking >> full information! TF> It isn't. The "sent" time will still be in the Received headers at TF> recipient's side. Quite so. TF> As MAU has pointed out, the "created" time must be TF> shown in the headers, according to RFCs. I will defer to you guys about this. >> The Sent folder has Two date fields: Saved, and Created. This Created >> field should be listing the date and time when messages are sent. As >> it stands, these fields are redundant meaning-wise. And they have the >> same contents. A Saved date would make more sense for a text editor. A >> Mailer should preserve the time mail was mailed. :-) TF> I agree with you half-way here. The fields are redundant, and I would TF> like to have the fields "created" and "sent". The latter would just be TF> TB internal and would show me when the mail was actually sent, and as TF> it is not an RFC header that would go with the message. But it would TF> be helpful on sender's side. Perhaps the transmission process does not need to be told the time when a message is sent; but instead it provides this information itself. So the need for this fact is not there. But a need suggested by a means of transmission seems hardly a demand against what type of fields data should be able to be filed under. >> It is surely a bug to mislead the user. TF> It's a feature request you have. I hadn't really thought about it much. >>>From URL: >>> An error or defect in software or hardware that causes a program to malfunction. >> This definition of bug is too concise. TF> You are not in software engineering, are you? Nope. But do standards dictate external appearance, menu displays, keys to advance to new mail or other content? Miguel cited an RFC. So to suggest that you really need to be abiding certain rules in the storage of a message that should be sent out on the internet later. But then, that is about what you need to consider to have effective transmission once these electrons have taken flight in other formations. The same RFC said: Some message systems may store messages in formats that differ from the one specified in this standard. This specifica- tion is intended strictly as a definition of what message content format is to be passed BETWEEN hosts. So, prior to its sending, I guess in an Outbox it could be in any form. Not really. But, the main goal when you have a program handling content is how to effectively manipulate the content, and display it in a readable form. I guess the headers would be in the sense of the complete e-mail source. I know some programs definitely seem to vary from an ordinary message source display in a Sent folder. Have you used Pegasus Mail? I think there are a few headers it doesn't bother to represent. But in general, you have internal data, and external representation. Items in the Sent folder can be flagged, read, unread, coloured black and blue. Would it be a bug or not a bug if a sent message could not be coloured? Or they could be Read, but not Unread again? The subject of this thread isn't much of an example for where you define what is a bug. I mean, mainly where you talk about something malfunctioning, is where you may have a lot of chaos. A lot of users complain. Effective work cannot be done. Or something thereabouts. Not so much at some periphery of operation where data conveys some impression most of the time which is very effective, and few surprises. I can't really rate it on a scale of 1 to 10. But if you can't trust a sort on a main aspect of content that may occur to you, it seems annoying. TB shines at the sort. Sorry, some of my comments might be a bit redundant. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: complex search question
Hello Stefan, Sunday, December 28, 2003, 2:27:57 PM, you wrote: ST>>> Basically, you should search for earthlink.net+dogs in sender and ST>>> subject :-) ST> Well, it's described in the Help, actually ;-) Ah, the TB 2.xx has improved Help in this area! A>> How does this work? ST> Here is a formal logic: ST> (earthlink.net in (sender OR subject)) ST> AND ST> (dogs in (sender OR subject)) Gotcha. So then, dogs is an atom, is it? (New kind of atomic particle. Has 4 legs and yelps like mad. LOL!) + One or more instances of the atom ab+cAbc ac A>> It will succeed, just like Rich wanted? ST> It may find some unwanted messages, but not much in reality :-) Could you ask it for earthlink.net and not dogs? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: search on Memo field
Hello ken, Thursday, December 25, 2003, 3:00:32 PM, you wrote: kg> When TB users asked about the ability to change the subject line in kg> messages, the suggestion has been to utilize the Memo field. But it kg> appears that if I want to search for messages that may have a key word kg> in the subject *or* the Memo field, I will have to perform two distinct kg> searches. kg> That's a complete waste of time, IMO, and renders the Memo field nearly kg> useless for recording a message's topic for later retrieval (when the kg> subject isn't sufficient). Yup. But in the meantime, if you did it already, you could try these keystrokes between searches. ALT W ALT M. Hit ENTER again. I would also recommend they let you keep previous conditions in the Use Previous Conditions drop-down list. Older items drop off this list. Then again, you probably want a small history still. So, if not that then could add one blank template to the list, and stay fixed. kg> Why is the Memo field treated different in Message Finder? Does the kg> latest version of TB have this restriction? Don't know. Someone else can answer that. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Showing high priorities messages only?
Hello Frank, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 10:42:29 AM, you wrote: FJdB> Is there a way to have a folder only show messages of a certain FJdB> priority? FJdB> I have been looking for this in the display and the sort options but FJdB> without success. Perhaps I have overlooked something. FJdB> I can do a work-around involving assign colour groups to priority FJdB> levels and use those to filter, but this is a bit awkward. FJdB> Any other options? Yes. Right click on any Column Header (right above the message listing). Under Available Items, click on Priority. Drag it to Selected Items if it is not already there. Place it where it suits you. The order of items is represented. Click OK. Now you can use that column to sort messages by priority. If you placed it at the end of the list, you may need to scroll the Message Listing to the right to see the header you added. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re-send doesn't store when re-sent
Hello MAU, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 2:53:24 PM, you wrote: M> Hello Thomas, >>> whereas I should be able to just do the "re-send" command and have it >>> do exactly the same thing, i.e. put a new copy into the "sent" mailbox >>> with the time & date of "now". >> >> I just checked. The re-send function keeps the original date. I don't >> know whether it should update the timestamp or not. Should it? M> I don't think so. How come? As it is now, you could be looking for a message that was sent December 27 say, and not find it unless you look in a date sorted message list in the Sent folder under December 20. Now, maybe you wouldn't find that happen to you even once in a blue moon. But that's no reason to imply it doesn't happen for other users sometimes. >>> So, I'm still going to submit the bug... >> >> I think yours is a feature request, not a bug. M> Agree. The Bat is very best at representing a lot of details from all the delivery process. So it's easy to second-check if mail was from a spammer, or a commercial source, or your friend. The received mail has full information. Surely it is a bug if the sent mail is lacking full information! Now, maybe you reflect on the main field names they chose for Received mail. They chose Created, and Received. A very sensible model for mail that you received. For mail that was sent, the salient dated information is the date and time the mail was sent. If I look up under a date, I can't find when a message was sent. Instead, I am fooled by a very similar date that makes me believe I have an accurate impression of the listing. The Sent folder has Two date fields: Saved, and Created. This Created field should be listing the date and time when messages are sent. As it stands, these fields are redundant meaning-wise. And they have the same contents. A Saved date would make more sense for a text editor. A Mailer should preserve the time mail was mailed. :-) It is surely a bug to mislead the user. >From URL: > An error or defect in software or hardware that causes a program to malfunction. This definition of bug is too concise. Would have to consult then who to advise for the implication of malfunction. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: complex search question
Hello Stefan, Thursday, December 25, 2003, 6:13:17 PM, you wrote: rg>> It seems this can't be done... How would one search to find a message where: rg>> "sender" contains "earthlink.net" AND the "subject=dogs" ST> Basically, you should search for earthlink.net+dogs in sender and ST> subject :-) Really? That sounds novel. How does this work? It will succeed, just like Rich wanted? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Toss the trash
Just now I was emptying my Trash mailbox. So I right click on it, and click Empty folder. So now it goes into a real state of concentration. It is busy, and it has got the hourglass there. And I'm waiting for almost like 5 minutes. There were like 1 mails there. And during this time, you can't write messages, or read mail. It kind of stuck. What I was thinking was, it is just deleting everything. So, it should be done in a flash. And, also keep you motivated to continue the habit. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 11:47:11 AM, you wrote: JS> On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: >> The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the >> new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions >> are just as simple! JS> This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: JS> - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory JS> - start Registry Editor, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Rit and export the JS> complete branch Note that if you transfer from one operating system to another, you need to export the right kind of registry file that will suit the other machine. So, do take note in that case. At least with Windows 98 vs. Windows 2000. I'm not sure about Windows XP. It has something called registry hive. No idea what that is. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Hello Jernej, Saturday, December 20, 2003, 11:47:11 AM, you wrote: JS> On Saturday, December 20, 2003, 15:07:49, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: >> The simple question to ask is: How do I move my mail database to the >> new PC given the above conditions? I hope that the suggested solutions >> are just as simple! JS> This is how I did it, when I upgraded my system: JS> - RAR (or ZIP, or whatever) your complete Mail directory ... Any reasons why you didn't just do Backup, and Restore? Or just out of habit? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import problem
Thursday, December 18, 2003, 1:44:09 PM, you wrote: TF> === forwarded message === TF> Hello Thomas, TF> I dumped part of my mail in ONE box and tried importing it. TF> Result a hang. I cannot remove duplicates and/ and or use filters. By this do you mean that after importing a mailbox, the mail system is compromised? Like, broken? Not in a standard mailbox format? I presume (although that might depend on your situation, and the answer) that you could just import to a different mailbox. Or add a new account, and import to it. I am not sure what kind of effect could stop you from using filters. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening Folder on top?
Thursday, December 18, 2003, 6:54:33 PM, you wrote: KS> When I open a Folder, it always open at the point where I last READ KS> a message in that folder. Some people don't like that. But when I open Outlook Express, and switch between folders, it never remembers anything. It does Not impress. KS> If I select - but don't open - a message, KS> and then go to a different folder, when I return to the original KS> folder, it is back at the last read message, not the last selected KS> message. I have never noticed this distinction. Generally if I select something, it is read. KS> Is there any way to have the folder always open at the "top" or To have more than one default option of where to return in your message list is something I don't think any mail client has. It's like, to have a default option, it is always the behaviour it does anyway when you don't tell it anything particular. Now, The Bat! is an intelligent animal, and it remembers things. So when it helps users in this way, to return where you were last, many users are happy about that. I think that to return to the top, you can type ALT Home. KS> failing that, open at the last selected message instead of the last KS> read message? I never noticed the distinction. And now I tried moving to a message without setting it as Read. The Bat upon later returning to this folder returned to this exact spot where it left. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Restore
Under menu Tools, we use Backup to backup accounts. There is a setting here for Global Options. Anyone here have a better idea than me what this refers to? And, on then to restore, if I try to Restore an account, will it use a similar named account in the account tree now to deposit it? Or can I specify what account I would like to use for the restore? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders and rearranging
Have you ever noticed that if you try to add a new folder to an account, the new folder is always added at the very bottom of the account tree? So, let's say you are trying to add some categories in which to stick the boxes. And you have maybe a hundred folders or more. So you are there hanging around at the top of the tree, so you'd like to place things in some better order. Or maybe later archiving, or whatever. So I should take this bunch of folders, and package them up in some new folder, shall we say, boxed tight. So that random parts don't just hang around aimlessly. Since you started at the top of the tree, now you need to get the parts at the top, and move everything half a dozen screens to the very bottom. I can say that I scratch my head at this point, see? Are there other options, or anything I have missed? This could really take a while, as is. Another thing is, say on the other hand you take a fresh new Account. It has automatically like 5 folders or something to start off with. Try create a new folder. Now, if you try to move the original bunch, Inbox, and so on, it seems to fail. When you drag one to the new folder, the pointer does not change form as you would expect. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Finder Problem with Alt-L key
Hello Steve, Tuesday, October 14, 2003, 8:25:19 PM, you wrote: SM> In TB! V2 the Message Finder Dialog Box has a Tree-List of Folders SM> with the title "Look in folder(s)". The 'L' is underlined which SM> indicates I should be able to use the Alt-L keys to move focus to the SM> folder tree-list. I am not sure that is how it should be interpreted. Normally it is in menus where you might find underlined letters in commands. Although at the moment, I can't seem to locate a Windows program that does display drop-down menus with that style; just trying a few Windows programs on the system, other than TB. I've never seen a case anyway where you would use a command denoted like that, not to perform some function, but to advance focus to the region which is adjacent to the text with an underline. Focus is normally advanced with the TAB key. With a lot of checkboxes on a screen, you often can't advance to a next section with just a keytap or two, since each TAB moves to a checkbox at some point. SM> This doesn't work on my PC, an IBM Thinkpad T21 running W2K. With SM> I just SM> get a 'beep'. SM> Is this a bug ? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching in messages
Hello MAU, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 6:23:34 PM, you wrote: >> Also, if I want to search in a folder and all sub-folders I have to >> check them all or is there a faster way to do it ? M> Ctrl+Click on the "parent" folder. Where is it you are Ctrl-clicking? I don't see anywhere in the message Finder that makes sense. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching in messages
Hello Cedric, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 6:13:11 PM, you wrote: CF> Is it me or is there a problem in search function ? CF> If I look for CTI in subject in different folders, it returns a lot CF> of non accurate answers... Is it the same for you (using The Bat! CF> 2.01). Is the search string too short ? Try logging into the Bugtrack system, and report the symptoms with as much detail as you can. Here is the address: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter logs
Hello Vishal, Monday, October 13, 2003, 9:58:39 PM, you wrote: M>> Account/View log, or Sift+Ctrl+A V> I did look at that but it didn't show any filter activity. Hmmm..looks like the V> filters aren't responsible at all then. I guess I'll figure it out. Thanks. Filter processing should appear there, if you scroll to the right. It tells you what filter rule "Processed by..." Or you can try an application to view these things. TB Log Analyzer. http://www.zentrumderarbeit.org/TheBat!/tb_log/tb_log_analyzer.zip (284k) The author has said it hasn't been updated in a long time. But I guess the TB filtering processes haven't changed much. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter question
In TB 2.0, in Sorting Office, on the options tab, there is an option "This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey." The option is not listed in TB 1.6. I am wondering, how does TB 1.6 behave? How would you specify that the filter does not execute just anytime, along with all the other filters? And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 8:03:53 PM, you wrote: MDP> If you really *must* (and you shouldn't unless there's absolutely no MDP> alternative - and there usually *is* a perfectly good alternative) MDP> use a folder template to set a to address, use this: MDP> %IF:'%TOADDR'='':"%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"' MDP> This will only set the To address when there is no previous value. I tried this. But it still seems to add new addresses after previous addresses. I think perhaps one of the quotes is mixed up. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering with IMAP
Is there any specific plan for re-implementing filtering in TB 2.0? As I understand, it does not work at all right now. No automatic filtering, no manual filtering. Correct? That is, assuming you selected an IMAP account. So is it planned to fix this by a certain date, or in some order of things? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Jumble text
When I type some sentences near to a section below, perhaps near quoted text, sometimes it is very near. And the text retreats upward, and crunches up all on one line instead of a few lines consecutively. I have a feeling that didn't use to happen, and I can't remember if an option was changed. Sound like anything? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search
Hello ken, Monday, September 29, 2003, 7:07:43 PM, you wrote: kg> It appears that if I want to search for a word and just start typing, kg> the first closest match is selecting. As I get more specific, the kg> selected item may change to match the search string. kg> But how do I *quickly* find the next occurrence? Unless I am missing kg> something, or doing it wrong, the only way I can tell to find the next kg> occurrence of the quick search string is to move focus to the messages kg> list, select the next message down, then go back to the quick serach box kg> and delete some characters. CTRL-ENTER will move to the next occurrence. But note that the Quick Search is kinda buggy. Or has been. I've noticed it ignoring a whole section of the message list, and advancing through only a few of the existing valid message search occurrences. And it definitely does not offer RegExp. I believe that it looks for hits in From, To, or Subject. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00.6 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System for archiving
Hello Pixie, Monday, September 8, 2003, 10:28:20 PM, you wrote: P> I've run the dupe killer many times and it has always left the read P> copy if there is one. AFAIK it only uses the MSG-ID to determine if P> dupes are present, and doesn't span folders. So the same message in P> two different folders is not found. I think this also is the case P> with nested folders. Ok then. A little confusion. I copied some adjacent threads from this one to a new folder. I copied ALL, and then set to Unread. Copied all to another, and then set all to Read. Then I copied all contents of both to a new folder. For these threads, after using Kill Dupes, I got: 'Cosmetic Bug...' 3 of 6 total left unread. 'Received registration...' 2 of 3 left Unread. 'Max number of stored...' 4 of 6 left unread. Since I had marked all these threads as Read, the Read messages should be the only ones that remain. Try a similar experiment? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu navigator?
Hello Paco, >> I've got it with v. 1.62r - to which I'm sticking for the >> time being while I (try to) read all the reactions to v. 2. PC> One hates to whine, but, why don't I have one of those? The PC> checkbox is checked... :(( It is no whine, Paco! And you had the clue right below. It is a nice feature. Wish my file manager had one. PC> PC> Using The Bat! 1.62q under Windows XP Home,version 2000 This is the reason. TB 1.62 does not support Menu Navigator under Windows XP. It has been foretold that the new TB v2.0 does support the Navigator button. Prior to that, there was some problem with XP's big fancy blocky buttons getting in the way. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System for archiving
So my question is with these duplicates. The method I described I was saying it could work effectively if TB was convinced to kill the Unread messages. If it kills Read messages, then I will be left with two batches of the same Unread messages. If it does cut out the extraneous chaff, and delete not just *comparable* but *identical* messages, then it will leave a complete archive. (Unless I'm mistaken.) How does Kill Dupes work? Am I right in what I said? Can it be convinced to do this? One day here to experiment if there's some ideas. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System for archiving
Hello Adam, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 12:54:58 PM, you wrote: A> I was thinking, well a Read filter could copy messages to that same A> destination folder. So then, you'd have all the messages. Plus a bunch A> of duplicates. So maybe you could try going to that folder. And A> clicking Kill Dupes. The problem is that if you kill duplicates, it seems to kill all the Read messages. Can others confirm? If it did kill the right ones, and Maintenance features could be scheduled, then the system would work pretty well. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
System for archiving
One way to archive messages is if you have a filter to copy all incoming messages destined for that folder, copy to another folder. If you do this though, the archive will not indicate which messages were read, and which not. No statuses. So, do you think that can be achieved? I was thinking, well a Read filter could copy messages to that same destination folder. So then, you'd have all the messages. Plus a bunch of duplicates. So maybe you could try going to that folder. And clicking Kill Dupes. I wonder if you have tried such a solution. Or have you tried some other method to create an archive, and either succeeded or failed at it? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor question
Hello Craig, Sunday, August 24, 2003, 12:53:10 PM, you wrote: CW> Is it possible to put a Spell Checker "Check entire text" icon on the Editor CW> Toolbar? No. But the 'Spell Checker' has an entire menu column devoted to it. Right up there at the top of the screen. As well, you can tap F4 for your function, which I'm sure you can do blind several times without fail. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts
> >>I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the > >>keyboard. > > >Alt-O > >Hit the key 9 times > >Hit the key 5 times > >Press P or R > > > > Does this refer to the beta? On my copy of 1.62r, this does: > > >Alt-O > preferences menu > >Hit the key 9 times > [nothing] Yep. Scratch that part. And try 5 times. But, then, at this point, keyboard doesn't work. You should probably send a bug report that the keyboard doesn't work from Preferences/Viewer. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Statistics
> Hi > > I have an account that I use for mailing lists, which has a large (100+) number > of (generally exclusive) filters active, and which receives anything up to 200 > mails a day. Would it serve any beneficial purpose to sort the filters according > to their relative usage to 'streamline' the inbox processing? > > I know that the Account Log records the firing of any filter, but are there any > other locations that TB keeps statistics on the firing of filters, which I could > use to determine the relative ordering? > There is Peter Palmreuther's 'TB Log Analyzer'. As for sorting the filters, it does seem possible to drag one filter in the list elsewhere. The rules list doesn't seem to scroll though if you drag above or below the rules window. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP?
> > I just receive mail on their server. I do not send. I use my ISP for > sending email on that address. Gotcha. For your Transport setting, for receiving mail, what do you use for Authentication? That's the only varying option for servers I can think. Not any others you can think of? Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP?
Can someone check for me if TB works with Fastmail right now? Protocol IMAP. I'm stuck with some kind of issues. Others mailers work. Not TB. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't get mail
I'm having a problem getting mail today. It's weird. When I click Dispatch mail, the window appears, but just stays there. When I click Get Mail, the connection centre appears, it says: Status: Checking INBOX And just stays like that indefinitely. Elapsed says 00:01 and doesn't change. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: recursive mark as read
Hello Eilko, Saturday, June 28, 2003, 5:56:47 AM, you wrote: EB> Hello MAU, EB> Saturday, June 28, 2003, 10:20:59 AM, you wrote: >>> is there a way to mark all messages as read in a folder and its >>> subfolders? >> Select the folder. Right click on it and select "Mark all Messages Read" >> or Ctrl+M. I don't think it works on subfolders though. EB> yes, I found this option but it doesn't do it recursively to the EB> subfolders. Ctrl+M Cursor down, Ctrl+M Cursor down.. sequence will work, doesn't it? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Saved/quick searches
Hello Steve, Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 11:46:33 AM, you wrote: SH> Hello , SH> Could someone help please? I would like to know if there is a way to SH> save searches, You can save the messages. But you can't save the message list. SH> or perform searches repeatedly with the same SH> settings. I guess you can leave the same window open. SH> Specifically, I want to perform a search for flagged items over ALL SH> accounts simultaneously. At present, this means doing a search, SH> changing to All Accounts, changing tabs and setting the flagged SH> checkbox. I would like to be able to do this in a more streamlined SH> way. For making the same changes each time, you're probably looking for a macro program. Trying searching Google for a 'macro program'. And then you'd be sending Cursor keys and TAB keys, to change and set the things you've said. If the Bat used the same settings you used last time, it would be more confusing in the long run. SH> I know I can filter each account by ALT-clicking the flag itself, SH> but I would like to do all accounts at the same time. Probably not. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying Connection Centre
Hello Alan, Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 1:33:55 PM, you wrote: AJ> Hi, AJ> I normally have the Connection Centre hidden but occasionally I like AJ> to have it displayed. Is there a way of viewing it without going into AJ> Options/Preferences and changing the option? So, you'd like to display something, but you don't want to go where it is controlled to tell it to display. This is a nice riddle! :-) For me, I just leave it there. I don't close it. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview Pane Move Up?
Hello Peter, Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 9:49:58 AM, you wrote: PF> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: B>> Also, is there any way to, with a single keystroke navigate to one of B>> the 3 main windows? PF> TAB That is a context sensitive function. Despite that this works fine most of the time, we could use a context independent window-focus-key. Ripe for a wish. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Return-receipt
Thursday, May 29, 2003, 1:23:39 PM, you wrote: RO>> And that's what makes it a privacy issue (to me). Unless you're RO>> running your own MTA you can't influence it. I'm late in my thread. But I only just noticed something. From some impressions and Roelof's comment, it seemed like TB mustn't have anything to do with it. Not running my own MTA. But then again, quite randomly, I stumbled on a section in Account Properties/ Templates/ New Message, which has a a few tick marks, for Receipt Request, and Reading Confirmation. One was ticked. Would that sound to be the prime reason? Or can such headers appear spontaneously? This section could probably be better documented. What I mean is, if you enter Help Index, and follow 'Confirm Receipt' there isn't any mention of this section. It's description is a little vague on activation, but explanatory. It refers solely to some Pop-up, or Options menu. But, I can't follow what it refers to for Pop-up. About searching up RFC's, can you search for a header like that and see if it is documented. When I searched at maybe www.rfc.net, it came up with no results upon 'return-receipt-to'. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Order of arrival
How about the .TBB file? What order do messages tend to occur there? My machine tends to stall on large text files. So I didn't conclude very much. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Order of arrival
I've got a large section of fairly random messages gotten filtered off some places, mistakenly. I wonder if there was some way if I knew a lot of mail was filtered to some folder, if I could take it out. Undo that. To get the list of messages in exactly the order they were added to the mailbox. No connection with internet activity. Just, the last 50 messages that were added to this mailbox are all _these_ones_here_. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Return-receipt
I have noticed a header called 'Return-receipt-to'. Do you have any idea what this is, and what adds it? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: when a server is not a server...
Hello Marcus, Friday, March 14, 2003, 8:17:41 AM, you wrote: MO>>> or that the files are stored _and_ processed remotely which would MO>>> mean only the relevant information is sent to the client, not the MO>>> entire message base. >> What do you mean by relevant information? MO> What I was hoping for was a setup where the client is merely a display MO> of what's going on at the server side, like with Microsoft's Terminal MO> Server. Then, if the client caches the message bases locally and updates MO> both at the server and the client sides or if it is just a simple MO> display does not matter to me, what does matter is that the entire MO> message base does not have to be transferred over the WAN every time I, MO> for example, purge and compress. You could try Offline files, supported under Windows 2000/XP, as Jernej mentioned before. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching For A Phrase
Hello Chris, Sunday, March 9, 2003, 10:26:40 PM, you wrote: CM> I invoked the Find A Message (ctrl-f) function to search thru messages CM> in a folder and its subfolders. I wanted to search for a phrase, e.g. CM> "business plan". When I executed this search in the Search For line CM> (without the quotes), it eventually found 550+ messages that matched. Too many. CM> What I found was that the hits were actually for either "business" or CM> "plan," but not the phrase "business plan." After referring to the Help, CM> I tried "business & plan" (without the quotes) and got about 50 hits. CM> But searching thru the messages in the results pane showed that most CM> hits were still only for a single word, e.g. "business." CM> How can I search for phrases and get hits only for that phrase? You did it right the first time. But probably there is a bug here. You may want to collect some examples to submit. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Same folders
Using two independent Bats, I noticed they are forced to use the same folder set. This is the IMAP mailbox interface. I really don't want that. I want to DL independent folders on the 2nd TB. Might someone suggest how this is happening? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Thomas, Friday, February 28, 2003, 9:14:26 PM, you wrote: >> Later, I tried downloading with Sleipnir, and it got the whole file. TF> I don't know what is Sleipnir, Sleipnir is a Chinese Web browser. Very cool looking. Colourful, though busy interface. TF> but it does seem like there was a TF> problem with IE, don't you think? Yeah. I just supposed there's probably technical knowledge around here to suggest what type of thing might happen. I certainly downloaded TB successfully with IE before. What type of event can a download manager keep track of that IE can't? Does IE simply take what it receives from the web server? Or is it doing some poor management or error correction, and failing to report that? Since it happened several times, error correction doesn't make much sense though. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Thomas, Friday, February 28, 2003, 10:44:47 AM, you wrote: >> Probably good advice. Though the last time I tried one, Getright, IE >> continued to download all files. And GR just seemed to have a little >> icon at bottom without affect. TF> I use Download Accelerator, it starts automatically when I click on TF> certain file type in IE (and CrazyBrowser), So, it isn't running. But then you click on a file link, and its icon pops up at the bottom right? TF> What IE should or should not do, I dare not guess. However, please let TF> us know which page exactly you are trying to download from. I went here: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html Later, I tried downloading with Sleipnir, and it got the whole file. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Robert, Friday, February 28, 2003, 8:53:00 AM, you wrote: A>> Where might I find the best current version? RG> Basically, you may use the same site. What helped me when I had the RG> same problem was to use a download manager instead of the standard RG> browser downloader. Probably good advice. Though the last time I tried one, Getright, IE continued to download all files. And GR just seemed to have a little icon at bottom without affect. IE should retrieve what is on the website though, shouldn't it? It took less than a second (shouldn't be that fast). But, all it said was File downloaded. No other message. I thought the downloads would be mirrored. But can't see sign of one. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ritlabs download
On the Bat download page, the file 'the_bat.exe' downloads and turns out to be 96 KB. It manages to come up to the Setup to Install screen. Naturally, it does not go ahead normally. Where might I find the best current version? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: send queued mail link
Hello kristina, Thursday, February 20, 2003, 1:24:54 PM, you wrote: k> Is there anyway to remove the 'send queued mail' k> link from the right click menu, from the icon in k> the taskbar. I'm not sure I see that in the taskbar. But I do see what you mean. k> As I have had several 'near-misses' at sending k> email's that arn't ready to be sent because of k> that link - as I've gone to 'check mail for all k> accounts' Also, go to the bottom of the main Tools menu. Send and Check All seems to get set to a function key at default. I would not keep that default. If you just got one key, you can hit it accidentally. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read To:
Hello Marck, Thursday, February 20, 2003, 6:15:50 PM, you wrote: MDP> Oh, you wanted to know more? Well, you don't say whether you want to MDP> filter on "To:" (that's Recipient) or look at it in a macro MDP> (%IF:"%OTOADDR"="[EMAIL PROTECTED]":"do_this") That is it alright! Question was too brief. But I was only experimenting. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
