Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello David, JSL> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 you wrote: DE>> Hi Jack, JSL>>> Hello Thomas, JSL>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF>>>> Hello David, TF>>>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF>>>> David Earl wrote: >>>>> Hi Jack, JSL>>>>>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>>>>>> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL>>>>>> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL>>>>>> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? >>>>> My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF>>>> [snip] TF>>>> Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF>>>> advise the file size. JSL>>> My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original JSL>>> email. It was sent in haste. JSL>>> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. JSL>>> The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. JSL>>> OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. JSL>>> She is running TB! v6.0.12. JSL>>> I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do JSL>>> so soon. DE>> It was actually not so much of a guess, Jack, because I have seen the DE>> indicated error message before. I suggested the solution that resolved DE>> my problem. DE>> As far as guesses go, _*assuming*_ that the attachment file size is DE>> the problem is also a guess. Personally, I've sent files that were DE>> over a gigabyte through TheBat and, on a 32-bit system, the DE>> theoretical limit is 4 GB. I haven't checked on the 64-bit limit. Said DE>> size has nothing to do with RAM. DE>> The general cause of problems with attachment sizes are the limits DE>> placed on accounts by the ISP, especially when free accounts are used, DE>> not email clients. Those limits cannot cause problems until the DE>> message reaches the ISP's servers and can be examined by them. Such a DE>> problem should not affect the local computer. JSL> I halfway suspected something like this and since we both have free email JSL> accounts through Charter (now Spectrum) you're probably right. If in fact it is JSL> Spectrum's doing then you would think the error message would be a lot more JSL> enlightening to the customer. An error message that explained it's raison d'etre JSL> might plant the idea that perhaps a paid account would be more to the customer's JSL> liking. JSL> Thanks for your input. I started programming systems using punch cards, through 7-bit mini-computers up to Windows XP & Vista. The error handling has not been improved. In fact, encapsulation thanks to (D)COM and object-orientation have (in my experience) only "muddied the waters", because of the replacement of low-level error messages with other error messages in the outer encapsulation layers. The fact is that like writing documentation, error handling does not pay the bills for software companies and very few are willing to trade on the intangibles like: good will, good customer education and so on; potentially created by good documentation and error handling efforts. The lack of faith in such intangibles is one reason why I burned-out and traded programming for translating languages as a career path. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello Thomas, JSL> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 you wrote: TF>> Hello David, TF>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:34:18 +0200 GMT (23-Aug-17, 12:34 +0700 GMT), TF>> David Earl wrote: >>> Hi Jack, JSL>>>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>>>> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL>>>> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL>>>> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? >>> My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. TF>> [snip] TF>> Before we take any guesses, may I kindly suggest we wait for him to TF>> advise the file size. JSL> My apologies to all for not including pertinent information in the original JSL> email. It was sent in haste. JSL> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes. JSL> The computer's (Asus laptop) memory size is 8 GB. JSL> OS is Win 10 Home 64 bit. JSL> She is running TB! v6.0.12. JSL> I have not yet tried to duplicate emailing this file from my desktop but will do JSL> so soon. It was actually not so much of a guess, Jack, because I have seen the indicated error message before. I suggested the solution that resolved my problem. As far as guesses go, _*assuming*_ that the attachment file size is the problem is also a guess. Personally, I've sent files that were over a gigabyte through TheBat and, on a 32-bit system, the theoretical limit is 4 GB. I haven't checked on the 64-bit limit. Said size has nothing to do with RAM. The general cause of problems with attachment sizes are the limits placed on accounts by the ISP, especially when free accounts are used, not email clients. Those limits cannot cause problems until the message reaches the ISP's servers and can be examined by them. Such a problem should not affect the local computer. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Ok, what you'll need to do is find the Outbox directory used by TB on your local machine. It should contain two files, a Message.TBB and a "Message" file with either a TBI or a TBN extension. (You might want to enable the display of file extensions for this, because Windows deactivates the display of extensions by default, under the assumption that users are too dumb to understand the meaning of file extensions.) The TBB file(s) are the mail database(s). The TBI or TBN file(s) are the index files. I would suggest renaming the TBI or TBN file, say from "Message.TBN" to "OldMessage.TBN". (Essentially, save the file just in case you need to put it back, right?) Then, start TB. When it finds that the Message.TBI/TBN file is missing, that should trigger a re-index process. I would also recommend against sending anything from the Desktop. It is not a real directory per se. It is a virtual directory that is attached under the directory used by Windows for user accounts (as are all of the "My..." directories). User account directories are specially protected against user intervention/"interference". That special protection may have interfered with the process of encoding the MP4 for transmission. It's better to place files in directories that have been created by the user (directly under the drive partition, such as a D:\Upload directory). -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hi Jack, JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? My guess is that the size of the file is not the problem. Therefore recommendations for external programs, apps and websites will not help. Instead, the problem is that the indices used by TheBat have become corrupted and TB needs to be told to re-create them. As long as the corrupted index files exist, it will spit out the out of memory error upon start up. I'm not sure if there is a flag that can be set using the command line, when starting TB from the command line, or if one or more of the files in your directory structure will have to be deleted (to force the corresponding mail database to be re-indexed). Fortunately, TB keeps the indices external to the mail databases...I just don't know which extension those index files use. My recommendation is to wait for someone with such knowledge to respond and I hope this message has gotten the conversation going in the direction of a real solution. Hopefully, you know your own directory structure well enough to know which directory contains the Outbox or Sent directory with the corrupted index. -- Thanks, David Using The Bat! v7.3.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade process TB v. 3.85.03 to TB v. 7.3.6
Hi All, I've been using TB 3.85.03 for years and been fairly happy with it. However, one of my providers has switched to using SSL, which doesn't seem to be an option in this version of TB. So, I've purchased the upgrade to the current version (7-3-6). The question is how to do the upgrade. Will a 4-version jump still understand the old message bases, address books, filter/rule settings, etc.? Is there an export/import or backup/restore process that might prove a better approach to doing the upgrade? As long as I'm looking at this issue, I'll raise a second issue. When I setup the original installation, I missed the option to store attachments in a separate folder, so attachments are being stored in the message bases. Especially if I need to do an additional import/export/backup/restore, it might be time to change that setting and get the attachments into one or more external folders. Are there suggestions for accomplishing that? -- TIA, David Windows XP.5.1.2600 TheBat 3.85.03 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Worthless in TB
Hi Tim, TH Hello Tbudl, TH IMAP is worthless and extremely buggy on TB when trying to access TH gamail. The connection window freezes when checking google and TB TH freezes as well. Has anyone else experienced this? I guess I could TH use POP in checking gmail. Let me take a stab in the dark. This sounds like a problem that I had with a POP3 account many years ago. As part of the login process, one particular provider was sending a DNS request. Due to problems (or fears) about ?BackOrifice?, the firewall had been set to block port 53 by default. The result looked very much like a continuous loop (TheBat attempted to fetch email from that provider and hung). After reading the firewall logs (and setting it to report all denied traffic, heh-heh-heh), the solution was to open port 53 for that provider's IP address in combination with TheBat's MD5. I'm not sure if that helps with your problem, but hope springs eternal. -- Sincerely, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.85.03 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Groups Sorting Office
Hi All, Which to use: matches any, contains any, something else? Not sure which is best, to achieve the following goal: I've got an address book group Customer. I'd like to move all email from anyone in that group to a folder. I'm hoping that I can use: Sender contains any Customer/Recipient contains any Customer or something like that, and then move any incoming or sent messages to \\Account\Inbox\Customer. That's the idea, anyway. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address Book Groups Sorting Office
Hi Roelof, RO Hallo David, RO On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:44:27 +0100GMT (21-1-2007, 9:44 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: DE I've got an address book group Customer. I'd like to move all DE email from anyone in that group to a folder. I'm hoping that I can DE use: DE Sender contains any Customer/Recipient contains any Customer RO Wrong condition. Use this: RO Address groups - Customer - contain - Sender ;) I knew there was something wrong with that condition. Also, it needed the address group _handle_, not the name. Let's say Cst instead of Customer. Address groups - Cst - contain - all recipients seems to work for the Sent messages rule. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Default outbox for common folders?
Hi Thomas, TF Hello David, TF On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:15:16 +0200 GMT (25/09/2006, 20:15 +0700 GMT), TF David Earl wrote: DE Is there a way to determine the default outbox/account for Common DE Folders? The Reply header info is correctly set, however, the eMail DE consistently lands in the outbox of the first account created for DE TheBat. TF Common Folders are not associated with any account. You need to use the TF %Account= macro in the reply template, otherwise the first account in TF the list (according to the registry) will be used. TF You can use a regex to set the %Account= macro in the Common Folder's TF reply template, depending on %OTo or %ReplyTo. Alas, I am not fluent TF in regex, so somebody else might chip in. The %Account tip was the missing the link. Thanks for the help!! -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default outbox for common folders?
Hi All, Is there a way to determine the default outbox/account for Common Folders? The Reply header info is correctly set, however, the eMail consistently lands in the outbox of the first account created for TheBat. Details: The tree looks like @///GMX Inbox Outbox @///Strato Inbox Outbox ///CommonFolder Sub-Folder1 Sorting office correctly sorts the eMail into Sub-Folder1. I write a reply, and the Reply-To From header fields are set to the info for the Strato account, however, the Reply lands in ///GMX/Outbox. For some reason ;, GMX doesn't want to let the eMail go through and I have to manually move the reply over to ///Strato/Outbox to send it. I'm thinking that I've missed a setting somewhere, but perhaps I have to re-arrange my folders or create an outgoing rule to filter the reply over to the ///Strato/Outbox. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lists that don't overwrite the Reply-To header
Hi Chris, CW Is there some functionality of The Bat! that will help me when it CW comes to mailing lists that don't replace the reply-to header with the CW list's address? CW Is there some sort of options that can be toggled or a template that CW can be used. CW If I remember correctly, pine (a CLI-based IMAP client) would ask me CW whether I wanted to reply to the sender or the list. One thing I've done is to include the Reply-To: field in the headers, so that I can edit it when creating a reply. I set this by right-clicking in the headers area. That shows a context menu, listing the various headers with a check mark for what should be visible. That's so manual, I doubt it's what you're looking for 8/ I'm uncertain if this helps, since its more focused on ListServs/groups than mailing lists.? Things which can be separated by filters. I've created a folder called ListServs. I think its a Common Folder; its at the same hierarchy level as the Inboxes, not under them. Then, I have folders under ListServs for each group and filters, which sort the messages into those folders, right? So I've got like: \\\ListServs \\\ListServs\TheBat \\\ListServs\EurForum etc. Each of those folders has their own Properties dialog, with an Identity tab. And that's the trick I'm using. I set the Reply-To info for the folder/ListServ/Group from the Identities tab on a per-group basis. Not sure how that will interact with the various templates. -- HTH, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Handle list expansion?
Hi All, With groups, I can set the To: field to GroupName list. When that eMail is stored in my system, the To: field is set to GroupName. Is there a setting, so that TB will expand the To: and actually show the eMail addresses behind GroupName? I suspect that I'll have to do a (b)CC to me, but if there's another workaround, I'd like to see that. I've looked in the mail archive, but can't find anything related. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Handle list expansion?
Hi Roelof, RO Hallo David, RO On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:29:13 +0200GMT (10-9-2004, 17:29 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: DE I suspect that I'll have to do a (b)CC to me, RO That seems to be the only option, I think. Then again, when your lists RO have logical names it's kind of evident which contacts you're RO addressing. Some of my lists are dynamic. Perhaps the worst is the organization of our little impromptu bowling group. X is on vacation shouldn't get messages, Y already said Can't this month, etc. and they get hacked off at me, if I don't remove them from the list. I'd like to know, who actually got what. I kinda doubt there's a freeware ListServ running around, which can tie the addresses to calender (in date range do not send to X type of thing), but I'm open to suggestions. The other part is for filtering/sorting. I like project-folders for all messages related to a project (sent received). The sorting is in place based on Address Group contains sender/recipient, but the Group list messages aren't sorted into those folders. If the Group list could be stored expanded, then the existing rules would handle them properly, too, instead of leaving them in my Sent Mail folder. Maybe I've setup the rules wrong? -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?
Hi Michael, MLW Hi, MLW When I receive messages from this list, I use a filter to put the MLW messages in a common folder called TBUDL. I have tried to reply to a MLW few of these messages, yet the default from address that is chosen MLW is the top of my account list, sorted alphabetically. Why does The MLW Bat!, 3.0, with no bugs, sometimes do this? Should it not always, and MLW I mean ALWAYS choose the address that the message was originally MLW addressed to? Perhaps neither here nor there, but I just found something while editing an eMail. The status bar at the bottom of the eMail shows the account, which will be used for replying, right? (2nd item from the right at the bottom of the editing window.) If you have more than one account, you can right-click on that item, and it will allow you to change to another account, even when replying from common folders. Even from the outbox of Account1, the account can be changed that way, and the message is automatically moved to the outbox of AccountN. Other status bar items also have similar context-menus, FWIW. Myself, I set the identity to desired account in the common folder's properties. The new messages replies land in the desired outbox, no problems. -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
DialogWindows
Hi All, I'm wondering if the behavior of some dialogs is a desired feature, or unintentional. Try the following: Open an address book. Open a Sorting Office dialog. From the address book, open an address. Switch back to the Sorting Office dialog. The Sorting Office dialog appears to have focus (the caption bar is colored, instead of grayed out), but it cannot be moved or resized, nor does it respond to any other actions. The Edit Address dialog must be closed before the Sorting Office dialog will respond. The same with the Edit Mail Message dialog. To my way of thinking, it's nice to see the dialog, but the caption should retain the inactive (grayed out) color, so as to avoid confusion. Just noticed: Switching via Alt-Tab is not possible. Once the Edit Address dialog is opened, the other windows (Edit Mail Message, Sorting Office, etc.) disappear from the Z-Order (and the dialog displayed during Alt-Tabing). They can, however, be reached via the TaskBar (and mouse), which makes me think that this behavior is unintentional, and potentially a Windows misbehavior. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
Hi Pete, PH What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? That I know of, Pegasus. -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Time for 2 Lists??
Hi Peter, PM Hi joeo, PM on Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:18:20 -0400GMT, you wrote: j Maybe we should have a version 3 list and a version 2 list. j I am staying with version 2 and don't want to download all the version 3 stuff. PM I can fully understand, as 2.12 is a well working version. PM IMHO everything about 3.x, albeit a release version, belongs to PM TBBeta... hmm FWIW, I had a working 2.12. Unfortunately, it was an eval version, and with the timing of my purchase, RL forced a v3 RegKey on me. Choice between a .0 version or walking away because 2.12 had expired. hmm. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Hi Alexander, ASK For me, proper formatting of text-only messages, including the ability to ASK re-flow quotes, is very important, and neither Outlook nor Opera's M2 or ASK AK-Mail or Thunderbird (haven't tried others) has any function like that ASK of TB's ALT-L keyboard shortcut - I'm using it all the time. Pegasus has it, Ctrl-j, but the quoting is not as nice as TB's. Just , no initials, no colors. -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Default templates
Hi Marek, Let me fiddle a bit with BeginUpdateResource() (on my own DLL's, natch). If I can resolve this for myself, I think that's better. Willing to share, but the code/runtime will be Visual Objects/xBase. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 MM Hello all, MM only way is prepare templates and compile English language pack with MM them. I can prepare one compilation, if You want. Are you saying that they are resource(s) in a language DLL? MM yes, default templates are included in LNG file. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Default templates)
Hi Marck, MDP Dear David, MDP @24-Aug-2004, 10:42 +0200 (24-Aug 09:42 UK time) David Earl said to MDP Marek: MDP This is a fourth time of asking. Please re-read the list rules. Let me fiddle a bit with BeginUpdateResource() (on my own DLL's, natch). If I can resolve this for myself, I think that's better. Willing to share, but the code/runtime will be Visual Objects/xBase. MDP moderator MDP Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not MDP just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out David. MDP ° MDP This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. MDP Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your MDP message and following it with all quoted text below, is not MDP encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list MDP because MDP a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the MDPtop of the message MDP and MDP b) It encourages excessive quoting. MDP We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to MDP which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, MDP and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're MDP responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each MDP part separately and follow each part with your response. MDP Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that MDP you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much MDP respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active MDP members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being MDP asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership MDP here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group MDP when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and MDP understand. MDP To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of MDP private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you MDP subscribed. MDP Thank you. MDP /moderator It was also the 2nd pass Marck. I've been on tbudl since Aug. 9th., and had no problems with this. That's two weeks without this being considered an issue. Now, in one eMail pass I get 3 requests. My TB config does not poll for new eMail, but looks when I request it to, perhaps twice or 4 times per day. As soon as I saw those requests, I adjusted my template for tbudl to comply, unfortunately the message which generated this 4th request was sent in that same pass, which captured the other 3 requests. I am trying to meet your requirements, but the way this has come about _is_ _excessive_ _unwarranted_ from my POV. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: someone out there having experience using TB! in a otherwise Outlook/Exchange office environment
Hi Jurgen, Like Alexander, I would be interested in hearing what settings work; what the problem was. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 JH Hello Chris, JH Monday, August 23, 2004, 8:04:27 PM, you wrote: I have plenty of problems with TB! at work, where everyone else is using Outlook and the mail server is Exchange. I think a few things might come from TB!-settings but maybe others can be done by change something on the Exchange server... Since I am a bit in the grey zone of company policy by not using Outlook, I have to be careful with questions/complaints. Anyone out there with some time/patience who could maybe help me come up with the right things to say to the admin guy? I have an Exchange sever setup at home that I have been playing with a bit. I haven't been doing anything complicated like filtering, etc. If you want me to look into a few things, I can try. JH that would be great, may we take this off-list? Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server reports error
Hi Thomas,
I've seen this one. When I get the error message from TB, it's because an eMail
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] is sitting in the outbox of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account.
GMX tests that the From field matches the account. The easy solution
is to drag the eMail over to the correct Outbox. That hard part is
figuring out why the eMail was put in the wrong Outbox in the first
place.
--
Thanks,
David
Win][k sp4
TheBat 2.11
TF Hello TBUDL,
TF What does this mean?
TF 18/08/2004, 20:59:15: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
TF 18/08/2004, 20:59:16: SEND - connected to SMTP server
TF 18/08/2004, 20:59:17: SEND - authenticating (software CRAM-MD5)...
TF 18/08/2004, 20:59:21: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF 18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - The last address submitted was [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF !18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - 0 {mp006}
ok
TF !18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: p006} ok
TF !18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: p006} ok
TF !18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: p006} ok
TF 18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent
TF 18/08/2004, 21:00:22: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for
details
TF Using TB 2.12.02 under Win98. Never encountered this problem before.
TF Mail server is GMX.
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default templates
Hi All, Is it possible to provide TB with a set of default templates, which will be used when creating new accounts _folders_? TB seems to have default templates, which are used when creating new accounts, which is ok, but might be nicer if I can use my own. However, when new (common) folders are created, the templates are set to %BLANK, and I've been looking for a way around that, and not finding. Is it possible to reset templates, for the folders that I've already created? Probably not, but if there's a way, I thank you for the info. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter Log?
Hi Chris, C The account log has some information about what is filtered and where C it is put. Look at that combo-box at the bottom of your screen for the C latest message. Or, under the Account menu, select View Log to see the C full log. This is ok, but could be better IMO. I was not finding where the message was put becaues of the length of the line. The info about where a message has gone is so far off-screen, that it's practically hidden (@ 1024x768). Perhaps I can make an enhancement request to break that message, so that the where gets it's own line becomes visible again. I had grown fond of a debug option of another client, which would open a pop-up window, and show the activity for the entire mail pass. Something like Account 1, 2 messages sent, 3 messages received, 2 messages moved to x, 1 message deleted, Account 2 I was hoping there was a setting or command line switch, which enabled TB to do that, too. I found it particularly helpful when building new filters, when making mail passes for all accounts. Would something like that be a sensible feature for TB, or am I ;) just not adjusting to the new environment well? -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 C David Earl @ 2004-Aug-18 9:08:05 AM C Filter Log? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there some kind of log of the filter activities? I'd like to monitor my new filters, especially during Re-Filtering (from Account to CommonFolder, between CommonFolders, etc.), and see where TB is storing which eMails. C The account log has some information about what is filtered and where C it is put. Look at that combo-box at the bottom of your screen for the C latest message. Or, under the Account menu, select View Log to see the C full log. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Default templates
Hi Marek, MM only way is prepare templates and compile English language pack with MM them. I can prepare one compilation, if You want. Are you saying that they are resource(s) in a language DLL? -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 MM Hello all, MM Saturday, August 21, 2004, David Earl wrote: Is it possible to provide TB with a set of default templates, which will be used when creating new accounts _folders_? TB seems to have default templates, which are used when creating new accounts, which is ok, but might be nicer if I can use my own. MM only way is prepare templates and compile English language pack with MM them. I can prepare one compilation, if You want. However, when new (common) folders are created, the templates are set to %BLANK, and I've been looking for a way around that, and not finding. Is it possible to reset templates, for the folders that I've already created? Probably not, but if there's a way, I thank you for the info. MM delete whole template and close folder properties, TB will set it to MM default. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Log?
Hi All, Is there some kind of log of the filter activities? I'd like to monitor my new filters, especially during Re-Filtering (from Account to CommonFolder, between CommonFolders, etc.), and see where TB is storing which eMails. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
Hi Peter, PB Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the PB notes that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an I'm not sure what TB's abilities for this are, but (as a programmer) I wouldn't recommend your plan. That's a lot of text to be sticking into a note, which I (personally) would consider un-searchable. What _might_ be better (_if_ the eMail program must serve, in this way) is to send yourself an eMail for notation...something like: From:PBallantyne To:PBallantyne Subj: Consultations Text: Talked with John Smith about... -OR- Subj: Sermons Text: Gospel of Thomas and other apocryphal Coptic works -OR- Subj: Meetings Text: John Smith raised the issue of the old roof... The eMail has the added benefit of being automatically dated, and you gain the advantages of filters, folders, threading to organize those eMails, say filter by Subj: (vertically, by activities), and use the Virtual Folder feature to search horizontally in the text for particular topics, such as Message Source containing Smith. And use the threading (replies to related eMails) to group closely related activities. -- HTH, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 PB Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the PB notes that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an PB entry in the address book? I ask because I use it as a contact PB manager, and being in pastoral ministry I can use it for keeping PB records of home visits, particular issues concerning an individual PB or family, and so on. At present I use separate text files and PB link to them from one of the web address fields in the address PB book, but I would like to put it all together, so to speak. How PB robust is the address book data in other's experience of this PB fantastic program? Thanks for any thoughts. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat Pricing
Peter Charles, Ok, honor system, basically. That's ok, and probably easier for RITLabs to track. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 PM Hi David, PM on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200GMT, you wrote: DE On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no DE info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits DE to, for example, a business license? PM Welcome to TBUDL. :-) PM No, there are no differences of the versions you get. It is just meant PM to have a student pay less than a home user, who pays less than a PM business user. There is nothing required to prove. If you buy an PM educational version and use it for business, it's just that you PM infringe the license agreement, no more or less. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Conversion from Pegasus (DLists)
Hi All, I'm a (former) Pegasus (4) user. TheBat converts the eMail files great, but Pegasus has a nasty habit when distribution lists are used. It sets the recipient to the list ID. When TB converts these messages, the recipient becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way that I can change this field to a normal address (or several, if I've created the corresponding group in my TB address book)? I'm thinking something like this might be possible in a filter??? FWIW, Pegasus also has a setting, so that the person's name is stored in the eMail, and not their address, or Self in the case of a Copy for Self message...unfriendly of Peg, that. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat Pricing
Hi All, On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits to, for example, a business license? -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default Outbox for Common Folders
When I set up the TB, I started testing with my hi-spam-potential account, with the idea that if something goes wrong, no harm. Now I have some common folders set up, and it's causing a problem with new message replies (from those folders). The messages are automatically being put in the outbox of this spam account. I'd rather have common folders working with what I consider my default account, with the correct From:, To:, and transport (sent when I check my default account, not when I check my spam account). Can the outbox for common folders (or the choice of default account) be controlled somehow, or have I goofed there? (I know I can set the default the identity, but that doesn't solve the transport issue.) -- TIA, David Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What are Chat Folders?
Hello Leif, LG So, for instance, if you specified this thread on the TB list as a LG chat (don't do this as you'll tick some people off), then everyone LG using TB would have this thread in the chat folder. Sorry Leif, guess I'm a little dense. That makes it sound like when I create a chat folder, it sets up a sort of ListServ or echo relay, but only for TB users. IAE, it looks like something that I can (should) probably leave for later. Sorry about the sig line the duplicated messages. I hadn't seen such a feature before the templates for my The Bat common folder were all set to %BLANK by default. -- Thanks for the help, David Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Default Outbox for Common Folders
Hello Alexander, Account - Properties - General - Checkbox This Account - account is the default ASK for MAILTO:; ... will make the account the default account for common ASK folders, too. Its a bit misleading, indeed. :-) Yes, that works! I was afraid that I might have to re-install. Misleading is ok. The TB documentation could be better. Oh well. I'm a dumb new user ;) The user base is friendly, helpful, knowledgeable, and that's what counts. -- Thanks for the help, David ASK On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:29:30 +0200, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the outbox for common folders (or the choice of default account) be controlled somehow, or have I goofed there? (I know I can set the default the identity, but that doesn't solve the transport issue.) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What are Chat Folders?
Hey All, TheBat documentation seems a little thin on the subject of folders. Could someone explain the usage(s) of a Chat Folder? TIA, David Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter on Reply-To:?
Hey all, I've set up a rule that when text [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in Recipient, the post should be moved to folder ListServ. I need this rule to test the Reply-To: field, rather than the To: field. I'm new. I'm blind (well, I'm not seeing what I want ;). How do I do that? Or perhaps a better question, how do I add header fields to the filtering list? TIA, David. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
