Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: TheBat! downloading very slowly)
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:21:16 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: Hello Doug, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:44:51 AM, you wrote: DW Thanks. DW Doug moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Doug. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator Do you realize the constant moderator interjections are more annoying than the behavior you are trying to address? Can't you send these to the individual involved, rather than to the whole list? -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpjPexM12Rj5.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 On Saturday, August 7, 2004, 7:22:08 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote: Hello Jim, Dear all, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:12:51 PM, you wrote: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Sorry for this very late response. This msg here mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] had a very funny behavior. When I first time moved the cursor to this posting I saw some writing. But a few seconds later this msg got encrypted. When just looking with TB! to the posting it seems empty. But Exporting it and dragging it into an Editor shows very clearly it is encrypted (see my two attachment). Honestly, I wonder why there where members that could reply to Jim. Any Idea? When I sent this message, I was in the process of getting certified in thawte's Web of Trust program, and had a provisional certificate. I since have been authenticated, and changed my certificate to reflect my actual identity. I deleted the provisional certificate from PGP, which may have pulled that public key from servers. I suspect that is why there is a problem. I don't believe there is a problem with TB. - -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAQRTxoyRrXL3iPqWtAQH+DgQAjz3qdFV/m2AyTRp+r3muBpvMGtUBJyKC iZpaQM3qTqqHBx1CfBSeBQ5NwlX7iTv/H0Tx+eVc3Bmcl2bgFr3k/BSuB5BFBLg/ pg4VLy85Q4JYtH+Y/VtalBtWnBZEVgCqz2v6PF5keY8oRmknZM+A+U/seRJgSf+U aulgR7s7dW4= =I3jV -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New spammer technique?
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 12:49:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Code posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : C2 Any training suggestions for BayesIt? IMHO, you don't need bayesit to defeat 99.9% of all spam. I rarely see a spam I don't use bayesit. I gave up on BayesIt. It simply was not catching very much spam. I installed SpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/), which is written in python. It is not a plugin, but acts as a proxy. It has a nice web-based interface, and it is catching almost all the spam after three days of training. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpo8wPk7hpXY.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server
On Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:16:40 AM, Jim McMaster wrote: On Monday, July 5, 2004, 11:04:04 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Monday, July 5, 2004, 12:41 PM, you wrote: JM I have been evaluating TB for two weeks, and have found a JM show-stopper that will prevent my using it. Zone alarm is known to cause major issues with TB. Period. I checked their website, and they report problems when ZoneAlarm and an antivirus program both check email attachments for viruses. I had both enabled. I turned off McAfee's checking, and had no problems for a day. Now I have disabled ZoneAlarm's checking and re-enabled McAfee's to see what happens. I will report findings in a couple of days. Final report on this. With ZoneAlarm's attachment checking turned off and McAfee's turned on, I still got lockups. I deinstalled ZA and installed a trial of McAfee Personal Firewall. TB froze once, but at least I was able to kill it successfully through the Task Manager. Looks like ZA was indeed the culprit. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpBbc8SRMFlj.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server
On Monday, July 5, 2004, 11:04:04 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Monday, July 5, 2004, 12:41 PM, you wrote: JM I have been evaluating TB for two weeks, and have found a JM show-stopper that will prevent my using it. Zone alarm is known to cause major issues with TB. Period. I checked their website, and they report problems when ZoneAlarm and an antivirus program both check email attachments for viruses. I had both enabled. I turned off McAfee's checking, and had no problems for a day. Now I have disabled ZoneAlarm's checking and re-enabled McAfee's to see what happens. I will report findings in a couple of days. Thanks to all who responded. TB has some annoying quirks, but it still is better than the alternatives I have seen. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpAuZ8JArKnQ.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server
I have been evaluating TB for two weeks, and have found a show-stopper that will prevent my using it. I am using TB 2.11.02 on Windows XP Home. I use ZoneAlarm Pro 5.0.590.043 as a firewall, use a LinkSys wireless router for the home network, and connect to comcast.net through a cable modem. TB checks for email every five minutes. Every so often, as in 3-4 times per day, the Connection Centre shows all bytes of all emails received, 1 second estimated time left, and just stops. The log shows all emails received, but TB never closes the connection. I can close Connection Centre, delete the task, abort all tasks, but next time the Connection Centre opens, the same receive task shows with the same stats and time remaining. Apparently, TB is unable to stop the hung task. If I could just kill it, the problem would not be so severe, but when I try to exit TB, I get a popup telling me tasks are still active, and do I want to exit when they finish. Whether I click YES, NO or ABORT, the popup goes away, and TB does not exit. I cannot start new processes, like the Task Manager. If task manager is already open, and I try to End Task on TB, the task manager hangs. If I try to LogOff or shut down Windows, I get the same popup as if I tried to exit TB. The only solution I have found is the reset button. I cannot afford to do that to my system 3-4 times per day. Does anyone have a solution for this? Or do I need to try again to find a replacement for Outlook Express? -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpZhi7KVoXkt.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 2:54:18 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Please, paste the filter in a message and paste the headers of one of your false positives in the same message, that makes comparing a bit easier. Sorry, I did not know how to paste the fileter. Here it is: BeginFilter Name: Not to Me Active: 1 Source: \\Jim's Mail\Inbox Target: \\Jim's Mail\$JUNK$ CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 01yahoogroups.com MainSet: 01projo.com MainSet: 01longspeakbsa.org Actions: AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Here are the headers from a false positive: X-McAfeeVS-TimeoutProtection: 19 Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.102]) by rwcrmxc13.comcast.net (rwcrmxc13) with SMTP id 20040701032100r1300qil6te; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 03:21:00 + X-Originating-IP: [66.218.66.102] X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.218.66.31] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2004 03:20:27 - Received: (qmail 21994 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2004 03:20:25 - Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jul 2004 03:20:25 - Received: from unknown (HELO n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.74) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2004 03:20:25 - X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.218.66.123] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2004 03:19:25 - X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 88010 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2004 00:19:41 - Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jul 2004 00:19:41 - Received: from unknown (HELO mail.iic.com) (64.72.92.8) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2004 00:19:40 - Received: from mitaca (w126.z066088145.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [66.88.145.126]) by mail.iic.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i610IvIe009837; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:18:57 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Sandeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.72.92.8 From: Mita Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Yahoo-Profile: mita0216 X-eGroups-Approved-By: danmurray.rm [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 01 Jul 2004 03:19:24 - X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.74 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:14:13 -0700 Subject: [rmiug-jobs] Winbatch/Windows Position in Boulder Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpM2umowApdw.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 8:41:34 AM, Zonnet wrote: ON Thursday, July 1, 2004, 3:06:50 PM, you wrote: JM Sorry, I did not know how to paste the fileter. Here it is: Hi Jim, Try this and you will see the difference. You were combining the filters were you want to have them acted on separately. No, I really did want to combine the filters. I was saying if *not* addressed to me, and not from (yahoogroups or projo or longspeakbsa, then trash it. This runs after all the filters that refile messages to specific folders. Roelof gave me the answer. yahoogroups.com is not in the sender headers. Looking for it in kludges fixed the problem. The sender domain is yahoo.com. Since I sometimes get spam from YahooMail users, I do not want to let the entire domain through. Thanks to all of you for the help to a stumbling new user. BayesIt got maybe 40% of the spam. This filter now gets almost all the rest. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpGRMM4os90Z.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
pgpZKZo5jxhQF.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:11:36 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Jim, On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:12:51 -0600GMT (30-6-2004, 20:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote nothing. Even though your message was blank except for the list footer, I suggest that you could try this: Sorry, I was trying to recreate the table in HTML. What I have in the filter definition is: Strings LocationPresence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient No projo.com SenderNo yahoogroups.com SenderNo After I have pulled out lists destined for other folders, I want any message without my address not from either projo.com or yahoogroups.com to be placed in the junk folder. When this filter runs, everything from yahoogroups goes to the Junk folder. What am I doing wrong? Or is this entirely the wrong approach? Thank you. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpqhGCcpyKwQ.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders disappearing in The Bat!
Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER%WINDOWSCSDVERSION I just installed a trial of The Bat! yesterday. I imported messages from Outlook Express, which had several sub-folders defined. I moved these folders from the import folder to the top level of my account. I set up message filters to move incoming mail to these folders, and all seemed to be going well. This morning, when I logged on and started The Bat!, none of these folders showed in the folder view. All the message filters have been reset to refile messages to Inbox. When I look at my email folder, I see all the folders I set up, and each contains a MESSAGES.TBB and MESSAGES.TBI folder, but I am unable to see them in The Bat! How do I fix this? -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!?
Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!? If so, how do I go about it? Thank you. -- Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders disappearing in The Bat!
On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, 9:16:34 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Jim, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 09:08:16 -0600GMT (22-6-2004, 17:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM This morning, when I logged on and started The Bat!, none of these JM folders showed in the folder view. Press Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L while you've got the focus on the folder-tree pane, that ought to take care of things. Thank you. That did solve the problem. Can anyone tell me what caused this, and whether it is likely to keep happening? Hitting a key to get the folders back is not a problem, but fixing all my filters every time I restart would be such. -- Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!?
JM Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- JM %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER JM %WINDOWSCSDVERSION This should be in your template for new message or reply, not in the message body. :-) Sorry...as I said, I just downloaded The Bat! yesterday. -- Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!?
On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, 10:54:35 AM, Roland Burger wrote: Hi Jim, on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 at 17:11 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!? If so, how do I go about it? I think that you have your certificate already under extras - internet options - contents - certificates! From there you can export the certificate to a special folder or to the desktop! Under TheBat - account - properties - edit personal certificates - you can then import it from there - also into your addressbook under your email-address for which you have got the certificate. Bingo...I found the Import function, but could not figure out I had to expert it from Windows first. Many thanks. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders disappearing in The Bat!
On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, 11:45:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Jim, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:11:41 -0600GMT (22-6-2004, 18:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM Can anyone tell me what caused this, and whether it is likely to keep JM happening? Hitting a key to get the folders back is not a problem, JM but fixing all my filters every time I restart would be such. It shouldn't happen again. If it does you'd better check your harddisk (scandisk, defrag, etc), because it's a sign something's gone awry. Okay, thanks. I run a defrag every night, and I am not having any other disk problems. it happened the first time I shut down TB and logged off, so I just wondered if it was a common occurrence. -- Jim mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
