Re: The Bat! 1.51 Beta/2
Hello Marck, On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, 12:48:59 h [GMT +] (which was 13:48 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: > > The TBBETA list is the only list on which to discuss beta > versions of TB. Those interested in beta versions will already > be subscribed. While I accept that you were displaying a > sterling public spirit and camaraderie in cross posting the > beta announcement, it is not appropriate to do so. > Sorry Marck, I will remember for the next time. Please do accept my apologies. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.51 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 AMD K6-2 550MHz, 256MB SDRAM -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! 1.51 Beta/2
Hello TBUDL, on Friday, March 09, 2001 at about 13:44 h, Maxim Masiutin wrote: FYI > Hello TBBETA! > [-] Fixed a bug that occurred when opening attached message, > clicking Reply, closing attached message and saving the reply. > [-] Fixed text wrapping. > [-] Some cosmetic fixes. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID 64bit: 0x0762805C388CEBFF PGP-KEY ID 32bit: 0x388CEBFF -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - Yahoo! mail settings
Hello Jan, On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, 11:55:22 h [GMT -0500] (which was 17:55 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: JR> Can anyone advise me of the proper eMail settings for JR> YahooMail. JR> Currently I have: JR> pop.mail.yahoo.com JR> user id & password set JR> smtp.mail.yahoo.com JR> combined delivery set JR> I can download eMail via TB! but I can't post eMail from the JR> TB! via Yahoo! Any suggestion would be welcomed. Did you enable the POP3& SMTP Options on the Yahoo! website (you have to be logged on to your email-account to do so) If not, do so. Therefore go to Options | POP... and enable it there. After that you should be able to access your account via a MUA. Remember to check POP-before-SMTP in TB's Account Settings under Transport | SMTP-Authentication HTH -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 AMD K6-2 500MHz, 256MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I the only Frog using The Bat?
Hello Brian, On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, 17:10:06 h [GMT -0500] (which was 23:10 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: BC> Is it just me, or are all replies to this thread not BC> threading? This thread is threading just fine here. There are others bugging me off... i.e. on TBBETA: "Suggestion: Personal Filters" -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT: Real Names
Hello Dierk, On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, 20:53:28 h [GMT +0100] (which was 20:53 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: >> You must have a really unique last name or you must live in a >> really small country! >> Even in Switzerland are more than one person with my name. And my >> name is not very often. Uh! So what about me? I don't believe there is another person in germany by my name... I better take cover... -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Template questions?
Hello Nick, On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, 13:20:20 h [GMT -0800] (which was 22:20 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: KJ>> Yes, you do. This is (most time as I get it) unnecessary, but a KJ>> precaution if an address should be already in the To: field. NA> Ah, then that makes sense in that case. In Tim's case, putting %To"" would NA> be redundant then if I understand the concept correctly, because he already NA> had the right address in the To: section of his headers. Yeah, but as someone said earlier folder level templates are crap. Ok, he doesn't exactly said that, but they are to be honest. Sometimes this messes everything up. It's better to use the %TO""%TO... macro just in case. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Template questions?
Hello Nick, On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, 12:38:15 h [GMT -0800] (which was 21:38 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: TM>> That was what I needed (%To=""%To="%OToAddr"), note you left out the TM>> qotes on the second %To=, but I noticed and it works well now! Thanks NA> I still don't understand why you have to use the extra %To="" NA> because the To: field, if used in the Template, already contains NA> the proper address. Do you not use the extra %To"" to clear the NA> To: field of any unwanted addresses? Yes, you do. This is (most time as I get it) unnecessary, but a precaution if an address should be already in the To: field. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49c on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Manual Backup Improvements
Hello Alvn, On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, 16:26:55 h [GMT +0800] (which was 09:26 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: A> i've always done my backup by zipping the TB! main folder and A> subfolder when TB! is not running. This is what I've done before, too. A> i find that its the easiest method. but, why in your batch file do A> you call TB! _and then_ close it, and the backup continues and so A> forth? You got the idea wrong. It's supposed to start TB! regularly with my batch file instead of the normal shortcut to thebat.exe Thus the backup will be done every time you decide to shutdown TB!. It will not cost much performance, though the zipping will. A> isnt it easier to just call the batch file that exports the A> registry setting and zip up TB!'s main folder & subfolder? It's just one more click to do. I'm a lazy person, a person who often forgets such routine tasks as starting the TB! backup. This is why I did the batch. I will release the reworked version of my batch file tonight. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Manual Backup Improvements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wayne, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 19:18:42 h [GMT -0800] (which was 04:18 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: WB> I agree, this is what I use too. In a previous post, I seem to WB> remember another command that you could put at the top of your WB> backup batch file to close The Bat if you forgot to shut it down. WB> I have a daily backup to run at 3 AM and I know sooner or later I WB> am going to forget to exit The Bat before I go to bed. Ack. WB> If I remember right, wasn't it c:\thebat\thebat.exe /exit? And I WB> assume that if it is _not_ running it will have no affect, correct? Yes, this is the right command. Though this is supposed to be placed at the beginning of your backup start file (if there is any). This command will end TB!, so in the batch file I've written it is of no use as the batch file will wait until TB! is closed and *only* then it will proceed. Though if you are able to add this command to the file which starts your automatic backup it will close TB!, then the Registry settings will be exported, the whole package is zipped and my batch file will close down. After that your backup can proceed and backup the backed up TB! settings & mailbase(s) along with the rest of your files. Seems to be quite redundant to me, if you ask. But if you like it... - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOloHigdigFw4jOv/EQKDEwCgmnEoeAf5shK5BaU1CTA2kukKdrIAn3/P i3alFHrGPZy7vZ5qXUWUDYaL =BiHB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Manual Backup Improvements
Hello Nick, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 22:08:12 h [GMT +0100] (which was 22:08 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: Here we go again! I solved the three files problem. Now it's only one. Create a new batch file (see my other reply) Add this to it (you can leave the REM lines they are only for explanation): REM TB!START start /wait c:\programs\tb!\thebat.exe REM for Win9x exchange "/wait" with "/w" REM BACKUP regedit /e c:\programs\tb!accounts\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" c:\programs\PowerArchiver\POWERARC.EXE -a -s -u c:\Backup\BatBackup c:\programs\tb!accounts\*.* Save as TB!START.bat Create a shortcut on your desktop pointing to this file. Open the shortcut and replace the path of the target (destination) of the shortcut with: c:\programs\HideWindow\hidewndw.exe /r C:\Temp\TB!START.bat ^^ Insert your path to HideWindow here Replace icon if needed. Click "OK" See? This will open TB!, but you won't see the MS-DOS Window of the batch file. After closing TB! your Zip-Utility come up and store your Mailbases and settings to c:\Backup\BatBackup This way it's much better! -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Manual Backup Improvements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 09:57:54 h [GMT -0800] (which was 18:57 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: KJ>> I assume you have already a batchfile exporting the TB KJ>> registry settings and then calling up your favourite Packer. NA> In any case, am I to presume that your method of backing up TB! NA> does not include a provision to back up the Registry settings? It does include every time backup of the registry settings. KJ>> First, create a batchfile looking like this: Steps to reproduce: 1. Download HiddenWindow from http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win95/desktop/hidewndw.zip/downl.html This is freeware. Copy the contents of the Zipfile anywhere you like, no install is needed. 2. Create an empty text file using the editor. (Do this every time for each new batchfile to be created) 3. Type the following in the editor: regedit /e e:\programme\tb!accounts\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" [2] ^^^[1] ::This line will export TB's Registry Settings [1] into the specified ::path [2] (If you are running W9x add "@" w/o "" before regedit (no ::blank in between)) "f:\sharedprogs\PowerArchiver\POWERARC.EXE" -a -s -u "f:\Backup\BatBackup" "e:\programme\tb!accounts\*.*" ::This line will call your favourite Zip-Utility (mine is ::PowerArchiver) with the appropriate switches (maybe you need to change ::this to fit your program): :: -a - add files to archive :: -s - save full path names :: -u - when adding files uses Update method ::Second path is where the archive is stored and the name of it ::Third path is what to be archived (your TB MAIL root folder here) 4. Save as TB!Backup.bat (Check if the file has really extension *.bat, if not change in Explorer or whatever. If you can't see the file extension, click View | Folder options (don't know exactly as I'm using german Windows) | Uncheck "Hide file extensions if known to system" then you can change the extension to *.bat 5. Crate another empty text file. 6. Add this: start /wait e:\programme\tb!\thebat.exe /nologo call f:\sharedprogs\TB!Backup.bat ::Running W9x? Replace "/wait" with "/w" 7. Save as TB!Combined.bat 8. Create another text file. 9. Add this: F:\SHAREDPROGS\HIDEWINDOW\HIDEWNDW.EXE /r E:\TB!Combined.bat [1]^^^^[2] [1] will call up the program HideWindow to hide the Window created by [2] TB!Combined.bat which will first start TB! wait in the background till TB! is closed and then the backup is performed via running TB!Backup.bat. 10. Save as TB!Replace.bat 11. Create a shortcut on your desktop pointing to TB!Replace.bat Add the TB! icon if you like. Use this shortcut to start TB! NA> What advantages are there to your type of backup, compared to Tools/Backup? It's proven to be working for ages, no problems in lost AB entries, missing groups, filters or whatever. *It's working regardless of the running TB! version* No Beta trouble. I think a more experienced user with some knowledge of writing batchfiles can strip this three files into one which will be much more convenient. Someone volunteering? Nick, I hope it's not too complicated to read through (myself reading it, I'm not very proud of the explanation) If you want I will send you the files OFF-LIST so you only have to change the paths. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOljaugdigFw4jOv/EQKttwCbBqGV2Bxd9NJsG9uoUPSWawdGmA8AoPbr EJiQQ56EZFNhU82CPW0VT13f =8YR1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: how use The Bat for news...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Fred, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 20:06:06 h [GMT -0500] (which was 02:06 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: >> I will try to get more info for you and try to get them to get in >> touch with you. FW> Please post it publicly, as I'm sure there are other folks FW> interested in this . Thanks The best I can give you for the moment is a newsgroup where somebody can aid you on your quest. I assume you have a newsreader. The newsgroup is Hamster.en.misc it's english speaking and Hamster is supposed to handle the job. HTH - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlidVQdigFw4jOv/EQJFsgCcDPPzBAHIS4OQsH2DlinHrVZlbEoAoMcq NB7yixExQ+p90GtK3BudooK8 =hsAY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 10:26:16 h [GMT +] (which was 11:26 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: MDP> If this is how the HTML part of the message begins then that MDP> implies that the HTML part is the primary part (main body) while MDP> the text version is the attachment to it. The HTML is, therefore, MDP> not actually an attachment. Very interesting. MDP> You can't expect to be able to delete the body of a message but MDP> leave the attachment in place. Does that make more sense? May I add a "Oops" here? Yes it does make more sense to me. I haven't even imagined this. Is this behaviour going along with the RFC standards? I don't think so... - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlhJfgdigFw4jOv/EQKO1gCgl4ArBcye/Zdo84HDzbmd3ghw500An2zT gNQ3nWC9I3HIw708N7qrQVW3 =eGJ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andrey, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 09:00:22 h [GMT +0300] (which was 07:00 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AGSAA> Could you please export this message to an .msg file, discard AGSAA> any personal data (if any) and send it to me privately for AGSAA> analysis? Message is on it's way! Please let us know what you found out. Good luck. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlhGcAdigFw4jOv/EQIa/QCfS9a6tzhVOPShbT0JE5M7OdI9WVgAoM2f Z+3d6f7gd81LY/aoakLBamQ/ =GOW1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 22:46:53 h [GMT -0500] (which was 04:46 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: JS> Then if the ones that are not grayed out have a text version then JS> why won't the attachment delete. It seems that if it can be JS> selected that it should delete. I don't mean to drag this out as I JS> did find an attachment of a different sort on another list that I JS> subscribe and it deleted without any problem. Heck! What would I give if I knew an answer. It's like rolling the dice - one get's deleted, the next one not, the next get's deleted... I *know* that I have deleted the HTML part of messages of that sender in the past... aaaargh! - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlfyKQdigFw4jOv/EQLUPwCbBYxUNmQ6FcevJNQy0D5KmBQmdrAAn0Dt cmEvO8NiiLVG4j9WT46HCphs =e5Qq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Januk, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 18:57:10 h [GMT -0800] (which was 03:57 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: >> I just received a message written in HTML which I tried to delete >> the HTML attachement as usual. (Right-click on HTML icon - Delete) >> *But* nothing happens! JA> This message probably does not have a Text version. TB will JA> display a plain text version, but TB creates this version. I just rechecked this. It appears to me there is a plain text version, see the header: >Received: from mailer4.agnitas.de by mx02.web.de with smtp >(freemail 4.2.1.4 #21) id m14F3pk-007XkeA; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:37 +0100 >Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:37 +0100 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: BestBuy - Der Shopping-Service exklusiv fuer AddCom-Kunden. >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; >boundary="-==AGNITASOUTER164240059B2900064F==" >X-Mailer: Agnitas AG EM3 - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlfiZQdigFw4jOv/EQL4/wCg3goDQrMhBi+fUbcZQjEcfD6lK4AAnigu 3mdwwnB+6NlOVzdDBUSsQJHg =W54E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 21:58:43 h [GMT -0500] (which was 03:58 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: JS> I just tried to delete the html attachment in several e-mails, one JS> would let me select delete and ask if it was ok to delete but JS> nothing happened. The other two the delete selection on the drop JS> down menu was grayed out. The one's where the delete option is grayed out are messages which do not have a text version in it. Pure HTML if you want to call it. The ones where the delete is available have also a text version in it. This how it appears to me at least. I have one such message w/o text in my box. JS> Is this normal? Seems to be. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlfgmwdigFw4jOv/EQKgaACfdfRw6K74N155PFhBbUPmHBzdHwIAoLqP 8+L2k05neaPbDh3c3C9zzYkX =1Tq7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Can't delete HTML Attachement...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow listmembers, I have one weird bug for you: I just received a message written in HTML which I tried to delete the HTML attachement as usual. (Right-click on HTML icon - Delete) *But* nothing happens! I checked against some other messages in HTML - no problem to delete it. Just this one message is behaving that way... I'm just curious to know if this happened to someone before. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlfXRAdigFw4jOv/EQJjFACg6nkJ9KeVieHfO9kA3fanE06yYq0AnjjO /a4Gp2dKOTDEVdrUtXzxUzaV =7naA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: how use The Bat for news...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Brian, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 18:55:54 h [GMT -0500] (which was 00:55 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: KA>> So, I can't read any news group by TB? BC> No. Not yet. I think some have mentioned that the authors were BC> looking into this for version 2. I'm not positive. Well, you can read newsgroups with TB actually. You need of course third-party programs to get yourself a workaround. I only know this very little as I'm not into newsgroups, but on the german TB list are some users who use TB and some program named Korrnews or Hamster to read and send to NG. I will try to get more info for you and try to get them to get in touch with you. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOle7uwdigFw4jOv/EQL8nQCcC395+tTTOkIPYVx0YCh+Uyp29psAniJO gU1wwYE8/MWN59P8LX7L3orq =GhmJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Selective Download in the Sorting Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars, On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, 23:05:22 h [GMT +0100] (which was 23:05 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: EF>> I'm assuming this is for handling a message on the server prior EF>> to download... ie killing it or ignoring it and avoiding EF>> downloading it if conditions are met? LG> It is. The German help says that this feature could ignore or LG> delete messages matching certain criteria *on the server*. But remember that this is sometimes very time consuming as if at least one rule is present in the Selective Downloads *all* message headers will be downloaded and handled afterwards the messages will be downloaded. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOleo7AdigFw4jOv/EQIW6wCglq3KYAZeeYYXfvSuIb2hBkdoHdUAmgOS RT06L1W//wmlqCdsu451GKVd =5bXL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 06:55:07 h [GMT -0800] (which was 15:55 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: ML> That should work, as you've found out. The only ML> "drawback" of that approach is an DOS instance (window) ML> for the batch would stay there the whole time TB is ML> active. It's no big deal, just something I always try to ML> avoid. I posted a solution and a complete How-To just five minutes ago. Thank you for your effort. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlXsQQdigFw4jOv/EQKXAACdFyS1F4sboz/Uk9QFX3HKhCxVm1wAoMpW Tv0To6EpZtkrbEoVDM7nDRVq =jUxu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Manual Backup Improvements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow listmembers, for all of you who rely on the manual backup procedure for TB instead of using the (newly) built in function. With the help of Thomas, Roel and Andrey I found a very convenient way for doing this: The way I designed it will execute the Backup everytime TB is closed *automagically* without you even noticing anything has changed. I assume you have already a batchfile exporting the TB registry settings and then calling up your favourite Packer. First, create a batchfile looking like this: start /wait X:\PATH\thebat.exe :: WIN9x users use "/w" instead of "/wait" call X:\PATH_TO_EXISTING_BACKUP.BAT Use this batchfile to fire up TB instead of thebat.exe. This will result in two windows popping up (TB itself and the MS-DOS window where the batchfile is executed) To get rid of the MS-DOS window, which will reside in your taskbar use the following batchfile to hide that window (backup procedure will *not* be changed in any way): X:\PATH\HIDEWNDW.EXE /r X:\PATH_TO_TBw/Backup.bat This one will start the batchfile from the first example using a little program (running under Win9x to W2K) which will hide the MS-DOS window. The program HIDEWINDOW is freeware and available from: http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win95/desktop/hidewndw.zip/downl.html (about 35Kb) HTH some of you. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlXqvQdigFw4jOv/EQLCDwCg7y9rZF37ZUPJrzYcIZbVZtXIZkYAn2cY wfjkovObEX+FtbxDwhARJMic =FiX3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andrey, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 05:13:41 h [GMT +0300] (which was 03:13 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AGSAA> If you want to hide the icon and window completely AGSAA> you'll need an utility like HideWindow - AGSAA> http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win95/desktop/hidewndw.zip/downl.html. Man, this was a great tip! I appreciate your help very much. This little proggy is exactly what I have been looking for. :-) And it's freeware also. Very useful. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlXA+gdigFw4jOv/EQLChACfSLoVxdsyDidMK27c1DxzoDBn39UAnijk bPU74kport3NSdqnIcKDjZkG =cclw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Andrey, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 05:13:41 h [GMT +0300] (which was 03:13 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AGSAA> If you want to hide the icon and window completely AGSAA> you'll need an utility like HideWindow - [...] I will have a look at it. Thank you for the tip! - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlWwCwdigFw4jOv/EQKBCACgrjHpVSdmhZFc1oHzanh6RozCNRkAoKLz 49wOL5RjWuAbUe0NUqhfIwa6 =Mzqe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Un Subscribe
Hello Tony, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 10:52:31 h [GMT -0800] (which was 19:52 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: TB> HI I tried to unsubscribe last night. Got the TB> Confirmation callback OK, but still get these bat TB> messages pouring in. Any sugestions? (I just tried TB> unsubscribing again) ...I wonder why one might do so... ;) If you don't succeed this time, try to contact Mark, Allie or Syafril via the list owners mail link down below. Then you will be surley unsubscribed manually. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li, On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, 09:21:54 h [GMT -0800] (which was 18:21 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: ML> Try starting your backup batchfile with the following line: ML> \path\thebat /exit ML> You may add a pause after it for TB to close properly. This is the other way round. I call up the backup batch file which closes TB. Nice, but not what I was looking for. I will get back to this one if Thomas way won't work. Thank you anyway! It's been quite a while... Welcome back. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlTAuQdigFw4jOv/EQJSxACgzKB081+ZkRvBx6ynIhsG30zUuaMAoIJ4 ftIjjGz4v/L6irEhc0OTFtLc =EQPv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scroll-bar quirk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tim, On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, 13:57:52 h [GMT -0500] (which was 19:57 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: DH>> I often edit down the quoted part of a reply. But in DH>> the latest version when I highlight an area right down DH>> to the end of the message so that everything visible in DH>> the reply panel is highlighted, when I delete it the DH>> reply panel goes totally blank and the scroll bar DH>> disappears (hope this makes sense). TM> I have seen the same thing, and thought I had done TM> something wrong... Same happening here at least once a day when replying to a message. In this case even the scroll of my mouse won't work, only arrow up&down. First I gone crazy, but I got used to it... somewhat. FIX IT! It's known to me since 1.47. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlTPZQdigFw4jOv/EQJY+ACgwlAZBk/9cFBcziClaweVQ1/Pa0oAoKaD mezeHEY/cl9UXoWqnWMXnbtt =qbdA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 02:56:19 h [GMT +0800] (which was 19:56 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: R>> what you need to change: R>> drive:\path\thebat.exe into: R>> start /wait drive:\path\thebat.exe R>> /w (depends on your os: /wait for nt, /w for 9x) TF> Oops... this wasn't the problem when I was still programming in DOS. TF> Version 3, that is. ;-) TF> About Kari's problem: what's the wait command in W2K? It is working now. Thomas, it's "/wait" as W2K is well, look for yourself. ;-) Thank you very much, guys. It's always nice to now where to go when trouble is on the road ahead. ...And now to something completely different... How do I get rid of the Taskbar icon of the batch file in use. Hoho! Stop! Don't you gonna tell me to click on the little x in the upper right corner of that window! I want to *hide* it... - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlTOOQdigFw4jOv/EQJt5wCeMFK6xJylmubv9d6RtV/MF0o+abkAnArj SiOSNoUqQMphbQKMxoFNcIjL =DLjB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 01:13:24 h [GMT +0800] (which was 18:13 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: TF> However, speaking of an external file to be invoked upon exit, that's TF> no problem. Just create a batch file that you call to invoke TB, and TF> link this batch file to the desktop shortcut instead of linking it to TF> TB. I get a little bit dizzy with this last line... "link it to the desktop shortcut instead..." You mean "Place a shortcut of this batch file on your desktop instead of the link of TB on the desktop" (At least this one makes sense to me, while yours don't. TF> The batch file TB.bat could look like this: TF> -- start -- TF> drive:\path\thebat.exe TF> call drive:\path\TBbackup.bat TF> -- end -- As I see it the first line executes TB. The second line *should* be executed when I exit TB. Right? The second line is not executed here. Another W2K problem? Maybe they changed command structure in some way? TF> Problem solved. :-) Not yet, but processing. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlS/9QdigFw4jOv/EQLZAACdGrJlY2UQy6S8LCdddz5hx1zd/yAAnj6+ tbG5m91k+FKzUBRgP6lcAMFe =tPGK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Execute command ON EXIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow listmembers, is there a way I can tell TB! to execute a command when I shut down TB? I think of executing my backup Batchfile. Is this possible? TIA - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlSpvQdigFw4jOv/EQK0FgCg3vPKe4nc7S5OWziO2cIbwgQBFBkAoPRC Qqv+RTPebN4aJLuOL19yCgy2 =UHCL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: API? ;)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, 18:12:20 h [GMT -0500] (which was 00:12 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: MPW> Is there any plan to expose an API for plug-in type MPW> development? Ahhh... no. MPW> I've got about a half-dozen perl scripts that I've got MPW> running off of message export filters that are really MPW> getting very cumbersome and they're the kind of things MPW> worth rewriting in C++. You mean - running these scipts *in* TB ? This is not possible. There's only the workaround you're already found. MPW> If not, how do I make an "official" wish-list MPW> submission? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would be great if you'd CC: it to the list also. Best if you include your TB! version running and your OS. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlO0wQdigFw4jOv/EQLfNgCcCiOP9uGoatevrBr/bAgp0OCybX0AnRgX 05nHtN9WFv45W7TD8EFzHUhx =966d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 6.5x questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lyle, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, 14:26:08 h [GMT -0700] (which was 22:26 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: LS> My real questions come when I go to decrypt a message. I LS> can get it to decrypt, and it creates a new message in LS> the inbox, which is okay I guess. How do I make it pop LS> up a window with the decrypted message? I see something LS> here called "Secure viewer" and I have that checked, but LS> all I ever get is a new message in my inbox that is LS> decrypted. I don't know if there's another way, but if you enable the hotkey on your PGPtray Options tab "Shift+Ctrl+D" the decrypted message will be displayed in PGP's own viewer. You can't answer from there though. LS> Also, is it possible to change the version that is being LS> reported when you encrypt or sign a message? Right now LS> it shows 6.5i and I would rather it said 6.5.8 or LS> whatever. Understand that it is an International plugin, LS> but I was just curious. Therefore you have to hack the batpgp65.dll in your TB! root folder manually with a HexEditor. Search for the string "6.5i" in the file and edit it to your needs. If you are not capable of doing so, I would be glad to send it to you off-list. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlOp9wdigFw4jOv/EQKJnQCfUOPa6idIL2TKhDrRmUR+TYL077cAnjbT uuH3EZFlWQ1nsqyQLHIvRXuE =ie1o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Question re File Structure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Austin, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, 22:28:22 h [GMT -] (which was 23:28 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AD> I have recently set TB up on my system, and when I AD> installed it, I decided to set the program directory to AD> something other than Program Files\The Bat! I then put AD> my accounts in a completely separate location. So I AD> ended up with something like this: Yes. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlOqfwdigFw4jOv/EQIrnACgiogfzgie4r5PdWunILSC8DOBhKMAnRdF 8Q7P5lB/3VKzCpOJVLyxmMbW =WOtz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Question re Attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Austin, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, 22:31:24 h [GMT -] (which was 23:31 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AD> I hope this one hasn't been answered previously - If so, AD> I must have missed it. Me too. AD> I have set TB up so that attachments are stored in a AD> separate directory, not as part of each email. If I go AD> and change that setting, will TB automatically go and AD> attach all those attachments to existing emails, or will AD> it only apply to new emails? This changing will only be applied to messages received afterwards. AFAIK there is no such option. Nevertheless this would be great! Maybe put it on the wishlist? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlOrDQdigFw4jOv/EQKAyACfZRBunfmsmJr2br0lYOMRM4uIjgEAn07Q vxugFcB5mtHYZBXvJDWOkZRd =lFJ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Palm Support?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander, On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, 22:18:25 h [GMT +0100] (which was 22:18 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: AT> One question: Is there any support available to synchronize E-Mails AT> from The Bat with my Palm PDA? And if not, is support planned for the AT> future? There was a discussion about Palm support on one of the german lists of TB! At least it is possible to work TB! on a Palm. There's one Frank Weidmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who solved the problems, but didn't tell the list the How-To. He's not on TBUDL (at least not posting for almost 2 months as my archive does not go back any further), maybe you want to contact him off-list. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOlNTZgdigFw4jOv/EQKC9QCghI546ZAwjuqjP80cCeH5zwRPkBoAoJAm VBsM/GpKp6Q5csApzK1N+LSW =MOb5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Plain text by default?
Hello Jan, On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, 19:19:00 h [GMT -0500] (which was 01:19 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: JR> Can you direct me to the reference for these aforementioned rules JR> as I would like to have them on file for other lists that I belong JR> to. Thanks. http://www.landfield.com/rfcs/rfc-titles.html -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Saving a TB! installation to CD
Hello Chris, On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, 20:10:56 h [GMT +] (which was 21:10 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: CW> I have a very workable TB! installation but am considering re CW> loading the OS in an early Spring Clean operation. Heard of "Never change a running system" lately? CW> How can i save it to CD for future reloading? In particular what CW> do I need to save and what about file attributes when writing a CW> CD? a) You can save the whole TB! Folder including your Mail folders to the CDR(W). b) Save just your Mail folders to the CDR(W) as it seems copying TB! itself back to your harddisk might take as long as installing it new. c) Use the manual backup utility provided on the FAQ and copy the ZIP to the CDR(W). You have to export the registry strings anyways, so go and get the manual backup utility and use it for your backups. Make sure you go check out the FAQ, there is instructions for exporting the reg settings and the mail folders. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html#Backing%20up/moving%20The%20Bat CW> I will be using Nero 5 to write any backups. Me too... tomorrow, after my new 12x cdr drive has arrived -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send the same message x-times when online connection busy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Douglas, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, 16:58:22 h [GMT -0600] (which was 23:58 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: DH> The cure to unconsciousness would seem to be consciousness; i.e., DH> waking up. Alternatively, you could look for an ISP with a faster DH> connection &/or less traffic. :-p DH> In that case Kari, what we need is a version of TB! capable of DH> reading the mind of the user and even compensating for that when his DH> or her mind isn't made up. DH> Please do let me know if this happens again, and I'll be happy to DH> remind you that the message is already being sent. See above DH> Sometimes the connection just doesn't work, and I go off line and DH> then back on again. Other times, I may have to reboot. And still DH> others, either use a different ISP or try later, after the problem DH> (excess traffic or a server problem) has been resolved. See my sig? I *do* not reboot. At least I needn't for the past 5 days. There have been other times when I was running under (or was I ran over by) Win98SE. ;-) Thank you for enriching my life with your thoughts. But nevertheless when I'm downloading with 5.7kb/s with my 56k modem and then chcking my mail account there is no other ISP which could get me better connection to speed up mail delivery. :-( This is the way it is. I will get by with it. Trail off - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOkPgtwdigFw4jOv/EQK/CACfY+obAUeo8CK4LspEvE2Rl/cK1PoAn1pp KbUQIsIhDHLO7A8U3TNlkUt/ =4UR8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Template Syntax Question
Hello Jeff, On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, at 13:10:08 h [GMT -0600] you wrote this about "Template Syntax Question": JW> I have a fairly large collection of quotes in a file I use for my JW> Thought of the day tagline. Some of these are a bit on the long JW> side and when the longer ones are randomly chosen they do not wrap JW> at x number of characters. They are instead displayed as one long JW> line of text which the reader must then scroll to read. Is there a JW> way to force randomly chosen COOKIES to wrap at the same place as JW> the rest of the text in a message? Is that what ACM is talking JW> about in this FAQ? If so what is the syntax for performing this JW> task? You are right. You have to add "\n" after the word where you want the line wrapping. (Without the "") You have to add this in the text file where your cookies are stored. Don't forget that TB! will interpret *every* single line of that file as an independent cookie, therefore if you have blank lines in it - blank lines will also be inserted occasionally as a cookie. OTOH you can wrap the Cookies manually by pressing Alt+L in the editor. Which JW> The current syntax used in the template is: JW> Thought of the day: JW> %COOKIE="C:\Program Files\..." ^^ Looks good to me. JW> Happy Holidays to all you Bat-ty People!!! Thank you very much. You too. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Disaster -- crash and lost all Inbox messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Doug, On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, at 21:19:45 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Disaster -- crash and lost all Inbox messages": DW> Thanks. An easier method might be to install a copy of The Bat! DW> temporarily on another computer, install my backup into that, export DW> my inbox and reimport it to the copy on my computer (I'm presuming I DW> can't have 2 copies on my computer, which would be a bit easier). Very sleak, indeed! You have outdone me... Revenge!!!! ;-) - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOkEl7gdigFw4jOv/EQJSkACfYKMNnA/mKWpK4isPehQmpuHCCu0AoIDe 1YTLYrCZmhrVdZ+UZHPJeZyy =VIQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Disater -- crash and lost all Inbox messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Doug, On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, at 20:47:38 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Disater -- crash and lost all Inbox messages": DW> I've done a backup -- but that's all the mailboxes, and I presume if I DW> restored the backup I'd wipe out all the new messages in the other DW> mailboxes. Yes that's right. Best if you backup the new messages now. Then export them via TB!'s export function. Afterwards put your old backup in. This should get your old messages back. Then just import the exported messages. Remember that the hilighted folder will be the folder where the imported files will end up in. DW> Damn. I can't tolerate this, and it's never happened with any other DW> program I've used. To me neither. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOkEfowdigFw4jOv/EQJS4wCgmYnRCuWbRbFwQMpTgKG13g0tW+YAn1oG vMikGHi1cxMi5ylwPOldwSz+ =F1KG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Disater -- crash and lost all Inbox messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Doug, On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, at 20:39:00 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Disater -- crash and lost all Inbox messages": DW> This is a disaster. My computer crashed and I have now lost all my DW> Inbox messages, several thousand. I'm using 1.48, the Christmas DW> edition. I'll have to go back to another email program if this is the DW> consequence of using what I thought was a fantastic email client. Could you please be somewhat more specific, Doug? Did it crash because of TB! or was it a system crash? Do you have backups of your mailfolders and your TB! registry keys? DW> It wasn't a particularly serious crash, but there was 1 lost file! Which one? What happened exactly? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOkEbMgdigFw4jOv/EQLRjACeLSMjcJ7iykwvuqQ9gZcR7TjTEpYAoOmc qUPUuNsKQO7H3VlCFUnVnfat =6VAj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.48 - %ABxxxxyyyy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, at 10:16:54 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "TB! v1.48 - %AB": Marck>> He is referring to the %AB macros which were added in v1.48. JR> Is the usage for this option explained anywhere? It's explained in the help file of the v1.48 release or somewhere on TBBETA or was it TBOT? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOj98iwdigFw4jOv/EQJSaQCgvmCEA4t6Xoy4TnX22SQiJDCTSkcAnjv7 /zG70fW8jsItSbz0zoSJif86 =Vwnq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help, Please - Transferring TB, Completely Flummoxed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jerry, On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, at 18:42:13 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Help, Please - Transferring TB, Completely Flummoxed": Did you installed your TB! and Mail folders exactly the same as on your old system? (Speaking of paths) If not, you have to change *every* relation in your thebatcu.reg and thebatlm.reg files to fit your new paths. Assuming you store your accounts outside of TB!'s folder: 1. Unzip your backup to the appropriate location. 2. Install The Bat, but don't answer the questions about your mail accounts. 3. Close TB! and execute thebatcu.reg and thebatlm.reg 4. Open TB! everything should be fine now. If you store your accounts within TB! folder: install TB! first, then unzip your backup. This is the way it's working on my machines. Hope it will on yours, too. Good luck! Viv la Vyèj! - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOj9AMQdigFw4jOv/EQLwzQCgk2ieXxS/iyGd6TXtXYQRH5Dm0lEAn2I7 c9y5KAqM725inCeQOG7xj9G0 =SjCV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing a X.509 certificate...?
Hello Beat, On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, at 22:18:41 h [GMT +0100] you wrote this about "Importing a X.509 certificate...?": BS> I've installed v1.48 now - and the import of a X.509 certificate does BS> not work, neither with 'import key' nor with 'add sender to address BS> book'. When you receive a message there will be the Sig/Encrypted Icon left of the preview pane. Rightclick on it, choose Import Key. A new AB entry will be created in your favourite AB consisting of Name & EMail Address. You should get a error message that the RootCA of the /whateveritcomesfrom/ is already installed - no prob. The new AB entry will have the CA under the Certificates pane. BS> Can someone confirm this? The import of a friend's Thawte certificate. BS> I got an encrypted email from him, but I'm not able to extract, fetch, BS> take out his key. Please help, thx! Works here, tried 2 minutes before. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: smapi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, at 18:30:37 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "smapi": MDP> I understand your point and it is part of the list rules to leave MDP> moderation to the moderators. If a member finds themselves wishing to MDP> query the content of another member's posting, they should write to MDP> the moderators at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and make their point MDP> there for the moderators to bring up. Yessir! I get the point, next time I will keep it low. Sorry for any inconvenience caused to anybody. MDP> While Kari's point has validity, it is up to one of us moderators to MDP> say so. I lost my temper but I found it and nailed it down real hard so it won't get lost anymore. ;-) - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOjUhtwdigFw4jOv/EQKzJACfeGG4WeITYiozSvHh7aUe5vTQ1OYAn2Zq MB/viFbSupf1HKpEoaEtF6M1 =0cg+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: smapi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, at 12:37:45 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "smapi": JR>Are you a list moderator? No, I am not. JR>I think I asked this question once before but don't remember the JR>answer. You did. Is only the list moderator capable of advising others? Isn't it better if the users handle as much as possible themselves? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOjUYMgdigFw4jOv/EQKnlQCfbEEo1c0Jrk1n6uHyYqptUZAz7IcAoI4j Z2Nn0CN2fIlFkdX/DsxuV8Oe =Me+S -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: smapi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello George, On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, at 16:19:10 h [GMT -0800] you wrote this about "smapi": GFS> Hello The Bat, GFS> GFS> Well I have searched the Web home for The Bat and found no GFS> reference to an smapi plug-in for The Bat. Any directional GFS> pointers would be helpful. GFS> GFS> -- GFS> Best regards, GFS> George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GFS> GFS> * * * === GFS> Thawte authorized WOT Notary ICQ: 122492 GFS> * * * === GFS> GFS> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, GFS> papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, GFS> shall not be violated..." -- the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. GFS> Constitution GFS> GFS> Nisi Defectum Haud Reficindium (If it ain't broke, don't fix it) GFS> GFS> Digitally signed with PGP to allow source and content GFS> authentication by recipient. This sig is a "How-Not-To-Do". 6 lines of text and 16 lines of sig. And the last sentence is even untrue and was even in the messages before. Could you please consider shorten it a bit? TIA - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/11 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOjUOOwdigFw4jOv/EQJDkwCgy3g9xqxMZolvx5+OcUH6lWA9eb8AoPY1 B4q2kK2TxJDJN7vVVDFPceHk =sROT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder-specific privacy settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, at 23:02:41 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Folder-specific privacy settings?": KJ>> This way you could disable "Sing when completed" by default. NG> "Sing when completed"? I like the sound of that (ouch!) My PGP is based viaVoice, so I have to sing when a message is completed and I want it signed/encrypted. D'oh! I'm too fast for my keyboard... ;-) I know of an overclocking tool for the PS/2 bus for the mouse but is there a. o/c'ing tool for the PS/2 keyboard also? ...muahaha... - - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi/dAAdigFw4jOv/EQLzZACfdR/0Tp01Wl9uyw6xnmzOlu+nakEAoJYV ++1hHpikQ37sCezYW9YuTQL6 =X+nx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mails
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, at 22:36:54 h [GMT +0100] you wrote this about "HTML Mails": TS> Hello TBUDL, TS> I myself don't like HTML mails but one of my customers wants me to TS> send HTML mails with Pics inside them. TS> Now my Question is if I create a HTML message in the Bat (I read some TS> day that just attaching a HTML File to the Message without text would TS> do this.) It works for receiving that mail with the Bat Wrong. TB! just displays the HTML part of an HTML message as an attachment, but it is not one. The encoding of an HTML message and a plain text message differ (you can see it for yourself in the headers (Ctrl+Shift+K) where: "Content-Type: multipart/alternative" stands for an HTML message and "Content-Type: text/plain" stands for plain text). TS> When I send a message to my 2nd PC with MS "lookout" express on it I TS> get a empty message with a HTML Document attached. Because you did not create an HTML message, as your message body is encoded "text/plain" with an *additional* attachment. TS> I don't have to do that often but I don't like the Idea to have to use TS> Outlook express for that Task. I don't see an other way. TS> Thanks for your help! Welcome -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder-specific privacy settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, at 20:10:28 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Folder-specific privacy settings?": NG> Abject apologies if this is in the NG> oh-no-not-that-old-question-again-why-don't-they-rtfm-or-at-least- NG> the-FAQ-and-help-file category, but: As the help file, which is the fm in this case is very outdated - no, this reply won't be thrown at your head... ;-) NG> Is there a way to make privacy setting folder-specific. For NG> example, most of the business email I send I want to PGP sign, so NG> I have the "Sign when completed" option checked. But I don't want NG> to sign most of what I send to mailing lists (this one, for one), NG> so each time I have to remember to uncheck "Sign when completed". Best if you use folder specific templates for your business folder which shall be PGP-Signed. Use the %SIGNCOMPLETE macro in the specific folder template to have all messages which are created in that folder automatically PGP-Signed. This way you could disable "Sing when completed" by default. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi6imQdigFw4jOv/EQLBCACaAmZH+cPmwMSLfsHclJHw0gPZzG0AoI2L j0KhSNL0J/4Yl/y6y9TvKGVR =oxbM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A new user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Fusiontunes, On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, at 13:02:15 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "A new user": F> Now how do I get it to fill in the "subject" field as well...?? See below in my sig. The "subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST" addition to the mailing link will automatically set "PGP-KEY_REQUEST" as subject of the new message. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi6C1gdigFw4jOv/EQLYZwCfUU5+X/CgrBp4Z9vOPo+HWWxp/24AoMRv AjGmnMlw18EEUxZhyuIzdCUy =Aeq2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, at 11:56:14 h [GMT -0800] you wrote this about "New message notification": DTS> Yes .. i can (and do) do that now BUT it would be nice if my computer DTS> made less beeps, burps etc. LOL DTS> It would just be nice to have that little bat flap .. no noise .. no DTS> ticker taking over the screen I know what you mean... I don't like the ticker anyway... very disturbing little thing, if enabled. You get my vote for your purpose as I don't hear anything from my computer's noises as I'm playing those mp3 all day long. Would be great to have that customized little bat flap. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi1LvQdigFw4jOv/EQIJlgCeM0IozCIf4MdZc3Ijz8agVys2qroAoPSc 2O8pHP5+qJrt7lXvpjpTJvkL =9hKK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, at 12:53:01 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "New message notification": JR> Hi David, JR>On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 09:17:55 -0800, you wrote the JR>following about "New message notification" David>> It would be nice to have TheFlap respond to folders What about a different sound for the important folders of yours? Wouldn't that help as it is not possible to customize "TheFlap" (by now?) ? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi1GGgdigFw4jOv/EQKXCACg9yeSdHIMK5el4dvYFQMpqtuIaXkAnR7A RakHac2Ee0QlFu5wVL1w1ok4 =VAHo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Messages stuck in outbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, at 10:23:50 h [GMT -0600] you wrote this about "Messages stuck in outbox": J>> I'm trying to send a message with a jpeg file attached, but it gets J>> stuck in the outbox and there seems to be nothing I can do to get it J>> sent. ND> Sounds like a clogged binary filter trap. You might want to remove it ND> and see if there is an obstruction blocking the flow of bits. A bent ND> coat hanger might help remove any blockage out of reach of your ND> fingers. Some ISP's limit the size of a message to xxx KB. So does mine. If I try to send a message bigger than the limit, my ISP cancels the transport at reaching the limit. Maybe that's your problem? ND> Then again, I'm an idiot so pay no attention to me. Hmmm... Sometimes they have interesting thoughts... ;-> - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOivSLgdigFw4jOv/EQKADwCgkMRIBmCpd7Okbt3tbuNjc6LGckgAoLFS wzuT/40a6xsjzG2x07jhKkJq =jzY0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting mail folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karin, On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, at 00:49:15 h [GMT +0100] you wrote this about "Sorting mail folders": KS> How do you sort mail folder within an account and within KS> a subfolder? Alt+Drag should work. There is no way of having them sorted automatically. HTH - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOig7dkEJciaSUjmtEQI+YwCg8z7CVgXySUJUMdyr0pIFDc+nLBUAoOI6 bP6MgRTAA1gOsVfou3tgB7Wv =3rCF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
BUG REPORT: Account password override
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello List, I often use shareware, mostly on the nag screen is a mail-the-author-link, which opens a new message addressed to the author. Problem: When I click on such a link a new message window pops up with the preferred mail account. This *should* not happen as I set up a password for the account. Furthermore it is possible to send the mail even without password. :-( I tried it in different programs, i.e. "RazorLame 1.1.0", "Rename-It! 2.0", "Password Keeper 2.35d", "Power Archiver 2000 v6" everytime I got a positive. Anybody else? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOiVpx0EJciaSUjmtEQJ5DACginiTLVjNPdyQ/EkOK6o3lGKWJfYAoLgz xzvGySkziGgNmYPNzpQtWYom =xU+o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Tab keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello syv, On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, at 07:10:07 h [GMT -0800] you wrote this about "Tab keys": s> Sometimes (most of the times) the tab key just goes between s> top left and top right, it does not go to the bottom. Then s> sometimes (why only sometimes? no idea) the tab key will s> cycle through the 3 windows. Sorry, can't reproduce this behaviour. Tried it in all accounts (4) in every folder (about 37) even the ones w/o any messages in it. It did always well. Maybe you just overlooked the cursor in the message preview window, because in the account tree and the message listing window the lines are hilited whilst in the preview window it is not? s> How to fix it? Sorry, don't know. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOiLnaUEJciaSUjmtEQLmeACgpOUta9LV+7x4GVVwbyEGYnyDAnwAoO4w yZ5Hq12AM8bhIoSof6m7fEdN =Pq3G -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Auto backups do not really exist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Doug, On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, at 22:09:21 h [GMT +] you wrote this about "Auto backups do not really exist": JD>> Although copying files to a different dir will JD>> prevent against small amounts of corruption it is not a worthwhile JD>> thing. DW> Yes. But might itt be useful in preventing corruption from a computer DW> crash while you're using the program? For me personal - yes. I used to backup vital parts of my system to an other partition, which was not another physical drive, but a logic partition of my hdd1. I once lost my whole c:\ due to "tactical interference" by my power supplier. The backed up data on the other drive was good enough to restore everything I needed. It's not the best solution, as it was mentioned earlier - if you have the possibility to get to a *real* backup method, i.e. ZIP-Drive's, DAT a.o., use them. If not - go get one! - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOiLlw0EJciaSUjmtEQIWKACeMeeXZqCtPBI9g8NnMvcSbIRswB8An3Y1 t8YKZydtPcKR2b9pFWZtF0sU =1/4/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: encryption q's (messages.tbb etc.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, at 07:57:27 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "encryption q's (messages.tbb etc.)": Thomas>> Likelihood of the FBI or NSA never having intercepted any key Thomas>> tabs and thus never having decrypted any message is low, Thomas>> though. JR> I think this is also true for PGP as any other system. Only if they JR> are looking for something in particular would they pay attention to JR> any email traffic but I wouldn't underestimate their capabilities if JR> they focus in on something in particular. Ever heard of Project Echelon? It is there, right next to my city, at least a part of it. In Bad Aibling (Germany, Bavaria) there used to be US barracks. Although they almost shut it down the radio antenna is still working - it is said it's maintained by NSA. It is linked together with a station in Augsburg and so on. These antennas are huge about 400 meters high (but almost 300 meters are below the ground) and up to 200 meters in length. This is just to cover radio. Now assume they put the same effort into the covering of satellite up-/downlinks and www. 'ere we go... - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOiK8uEEJciaSUjmtEQLD9QCg6yTLbTtogCFlMcrAihSpXvOv8RwAoN/N alG3th5T9+9eLiTzjYeIYZtv =x+zs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Suggestion:
Hello Michael, On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, at 13:02:48 h [GMT -0700] you wrote this about "Suggestion:": MSG> Does anyone else think it would be useful to be able to view and MSG> change properties of address book entries when you access the address MSG> book from the to or cc or bcc etc. lines on the the edit window? Yes, indeed. If I receive a message with - say, a changed home address from a person who is already in my AB, I open the reffering AB entry and godda** it, everytime I'm at this point I already have forgotten the new address and can't switch easily between the windows, because TB! won't let me. This might not be a problem if you only have to change a single line in an entry but if you have to change the complete address let me tell you it's a real PITA. Just my 2 cents... -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: inserting special characters
Hello Jan, On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, at 13:48:33 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "inserting special characters": JR> Dear BatListers, JR> Basically I use English in email however every once in a while I use a JR> word from another language. Today I wanted to use the word "Espanol" JR> which includes a special "n" character found in the Spanish alphabet. JR> Is there some way for me to do this within TB! If not, can you suggest JR> an alternative. TIA For the ñ use 'Alt+164' and for Ñ use 'Alt+165', these are the ASCII extended codes. For a complete list see http://www.evergreen.edu/user/serv_res/research/bsi/people/dawn/program/ascii_ext-pc.htm#index This list is quite good, also explains the difference between the DOS and the WIN usage. HTH -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: remove
Hello Terry, On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, at 08:17:57 h [GMT -0800] you wrote this about "remove": TW> I have discontinued usung The Bat. It didn't suit my needs. I would TW> therefore like to be removed from the forum list. How do I go about that? TW> Terry See every sig on this board, or use mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bye,bye -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Two questions
Hello Jan, On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, at 18:26:38 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "Two questions": JR> Hi Leonard, JR>On Monday, November 20, 2000 @ 18:08:48 -0500, you wrote the JR>following about "Two questions" Leonard>> 1. I added a new folder in a folder with many other folders. Leonard>> How can I have these lowest level folders display Leonard>> alphabetically? JR> I think you may have to do this manually. Leonard>> 2. What is the name of the address book and where is it? JR> The address book is under Tools -> Address Book or F8 or Ctrl-A JR> It's called Address Book. To make it your default address book you have to right click on the preferred AB -- Properties -- Check 'Use this AB for ADD/DELETE' -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 7
Hello Nick, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 22:27 h the following about "PGP 7": NA> Alright, I presume you generated your Key Pair when you were using 6.5.8, NA> but now you have installed PGP 7.0, is that correct? Yes NA> When you installed 7.0, did you first uninstall 6.5.8? No, PGP 7.0 did it. NA> When the PGP 7.0 installation asked if you had existing Key Rings, NA> did you answer yes, and point PGP to where you had a copy of your NA> existing Key Ring? I haven't been asked at all, but if so I answered yes. NA> Were the Key Rings imported properly? They should now be located NA> under C:\My Documents\PGP. Yes there they are. NA> When you open PGP Keys, are you seeing the key icon with the little face? Yes, as I did from the beginning. PGP 7 also took over my existing keys. NA> Are you still running into the problems where PGP is telling you that you NA> are missing the Private Key? Yes, if I try to use the plugin. NA> Deselect both those options. The majority of Mail Clients do not support NA> PGP/MIME at present, and of those that do, only the Linux Mailers seem to NA> adhere to the current standard. Additionally, the "Sign by default" does NA> not work with TB! as yet, as that is a function of the Plug-in, and of NA> course TB! does not have a Plug-in for 7.0 as yet. Eudora 4.3.2 does, and NA> that feature works perfectly, so hopefully it won't be too long before NA> RITLabs has a Plug-in for PGP 7.0 Ok, I see... I now use the PGP-Keys Hotkey "Sign current window" and this is working. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received/created dates not showing
Hello Doug, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 20:31 h the following about "Received/created dates not showing": DW> I'm slowly figuring this all out, but I've got a problem I can't DW> figure at all -- a number of new messages are showing up with only the DW> time in the received and created columns, no date. This is obviously a DW> pain. DW> but now it's happening as I download messages. Messages received/created on the same date as your system date only show up with the time stamp, tommorrow those messages you received today which have been written today will have also the date stamp. No bug, no trick, just magic ;-) -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 7
Hello Nick, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 20:19 h the following about "PGP 7": NA> On November 19, 2000, at 10:55:17 AM, Kari Jakobi Wrote: NA> Are you using PGP Tray, or are you trying to use the menus in TB! for your NA> PGP needs? If you have PGP 7.0 installed, you have to use PGP Tray with NA> TB!. Have you created your Key Pair yet? Open PGP Keys, and take a look at NA> the icons down the left hand side of the page. You should see an array of NA> silver and gold key icons, but one or more of them should have a little NA> face along with the key, denoting Key Pairs (Private and Public Key). I do have a Key pair as created by PGP 6.5.8. On the EMAIL tab of PGPtray's Options I activated "Use PGP/MIME when sending mail" and "Sign msg by default" but to no effort. What do I miss? -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: please help out a lamer
Hello Ben, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 20:39 h the following about "please help out a lamer": KJ>> You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original KJ>> machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract KJ>> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT" KJ>> with a batch file with the following commands: KJ>> @regedit /e Z:\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" KJ>> @regedit /e Z:\MachineRegSetting.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT" KJ>> On your new machine just double click these two *.reg files and KJ>> Win-d'oh!s will automatically add the strings. BP> I don't know how to do that. :-)) Are steps posted somewhere?? Just open Notepad.exe, paste the two @regedit lines into it and save this as bat_registry_settings.bat Then execute this file and it will all be done automatically for you. It will create two files: "UserRegSetting.reg" and "MachineRegSetting.reg" on the specified drive (here: Z:\) which you can specify to your needs, e.g. C:\TEMP\ These two files need to be copied to your new system and then executed from any location. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: please help out a lamer
Hello Ben, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:36 h the following about "please help out a lamer": BP> Hi, BP> I'm in lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied BP> the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run BP> or anything. BP> What do I need to do, and how do it. I still have the old system, and TheBat BP> is still running on it. You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT" with a batch file with the following commands: @regedit /e Z:\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" @regedit /e Z:\MachineRegSetting.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT" On your new machine just double click these two *.reg files and Win-d'oh!s will automatically add the strings. Just my 2 cents HTH -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 7
Hello Nick, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:08 h the following about "PGP 7": KJ>> does anybody know when the new PGP Desktop Security 7 will be KJ>> supported by TB! ? Or do I have to get back to PGP 6.5.8? NA> I asked Stefan and Max the very same question, and all they told me was NA> why TB! did not support PGP 7.0, but gave no date of when a new Plug-in NA> would be available. I've been using PGP Tray since installing PGP 7.0, but NA> I would never go back to 6.5.8 just because of the Plug-in. 7.0 offers too NA> many other security enhancements that I am not willing to do without just NA> because TB! does not support it. As I can see you managed to sign (and even enctypt?) your messages with PGP 7... I didn't even manage this to function in TB! How did you do it? If I try to sign a message w/ PGP 7 I only get a message box saying that I do not have a private key and to first create one :( NA> I am hoping that TB! begins to pay more attention to PGP, and PGP/MIME, NA> rather that S/MIME. No, this is not my intention. I think they should continue both, as some users might think that S/MIME is the appropriate tool for their job. As Thomas pointed out it seems to be NAI's fault, as they do not make the source code of PGP available fast enough to public and not RITLabs. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filters
Hello Marck, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 15:58 h the following about "Filters": MDP> I use "Reply-To: TBUDL" in Kludges. This will distinguish between MDP> different copies of messages when filtering a cross-posting. Say a MDP> message is posted to TBUDL, TBBETA and TBOT and you have a separate MDP> folder for each then, by filtering on "Reply-To: " each different MDP> message ends up in the correct folder. Just filtering by recipient MDP> means that the first filter will hit on all three copies of the MDP> message (To:, CC: ... they're all "recipients") so all three end up in MDP> one folder. ...ahhh, never had this problem, but I see the difficulty with one of those messages showing up in my Inbox. Thank you for pointing that out. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP 7
Hello List, does anybody know when the new PGP Desktop Security 7 will be supported by TB! ? Or do I have to get back to PGP 6.5.8? TIA -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filters
Hello Doug, you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 14:21 h the following about "Filters": DW> Hello TBUDL, DW> I'm getting to grip with filters, but can someone please tell me how DW> I make a filter for TBUDL? The usual Subject, To, etc. fields don't DW> work (can we have Reply-To: please?) and I know there's another way, DW> but what is it? A copy of a working filter would probably help me DW> build new ones. DW> Thanks. DW> Doug (who did read a recent thread in the archives but still is DW> missing something!) As filter string use "tbudl" , condition "active" move to folder "tbudl" And locate the filter at the top of your filters. You can also see your "Welcome to TBUDL" message for this filter. HTH -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Memo Auto-View Feature?
Hello Januk, you wrote on Saturday, November 18, 2000 at about 22:36 h the following about "Memo Auto-View Feature?": >> Still, I agree that use of the Memo is "clunky" at best in TB! JA> That's the main reason I don't use it myself. It would be very nice JA> if the memo window could be docked onto the side or bottom of the JA> preview window. I dislike separate windows for related information. This is it, Januk Then this feature would definately make more sense than nowadays. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Macros (Regexp): Two questions.
Brian Clark wrote on Samstag, 18. November 2000 15:00:59 h about "Macros (Regexp): Two questions.": Hello Brian, BC> I also have to do something about the [2]'s, [3]'s. etc. that appear BC> after Re in threads. This is one I can solve! Just add "%SINGLERE" to your reply and/or forwarding template(s) and every reply of yours will be of this style: Subject: Re: If you want to clean up multiple fwd's and/ or re subject lines (fwd: fwd: re: fwd: go to www.silverstones.com/thebat/faq/macros.html there you will find a RegExp macro for this job Sorry on your other question, but I don't know anything about that, because I never used it. -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
Jan Rifkinson wrote on Freitag, 17. November 2000 20:40:08 h about "Editing received messages": Hello Jan, Kari>> To be honest, no, I don't know. I just managed to open that little Kari>> Memo Box, but a single column would be much better. How do I do this? JR> Right click on the icon bar just above your msg list, JR> in the available list select "memo" & move it over to JR> the selected list & a column will be created that JR> contains the memo. Ahh, at last... again one of those if-i-just-had-looked-it-over-thoroughly-i-would-have-found-it-myself cases. Thank you very much. So many times seen it, but never realized it... -- Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing received messages
A . Curtis Martin wrote on Freitag, 17. November 2000 12:27:15 h about "Editing received messages": Hello A, ACM> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:06:54 +, Manfred Ell thoughtfully wrote ACM> the following: ME>> The only problem I see here is for a memo to get automatically displayed if ME>> there is a memo for a message and to hide itself if there isn't. ACM> You know that there is a column provided for displaying memos using the ACM> message listing, right? To be honest, no, I don't know. I just managed to open that little Memo Box, but a single column would be much better. How do I do this? TIA -- Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 OS: Windows 98 4.10 Build A on AMD K6-2 450MHz w/ 128MB SDRAM To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mislead (was Re: Backup-Funktion Wo?)
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote on Samstag, 11. November 2000 16:39:18 h about "Backup-Funktion Wo?": MDP> I think you may have sent this to the wrong list. Uh... Sorry, guys. :) -- Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 OS: Windows 98 4.10 A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Backup-Funktion Wo?
Antwort auf "Backup-Funktion Wo?" vom Samstag, 11. November 2000 10:38:55: JF>Die Backup-Funktion hat, wie Ritlabs bekannt gab, noch nicht in JF>allen Teilen funktioniert und ist deshalb jetzt wohl auch wieder JF>entfernt worden. Um es klar zu sagen: Sie hat überhaupt nicht funktioniert. >:-O Das habe ich gestern schmerzlich festgestellt, als ich TB! komplett abgeschossen hatte. Beim Restore Versuch ging dann gar nix mehr. Lustigerweise waren die *.tbi Dateien in allen Ordnern gleich groß... Und mein zweites Backup hat auch nix getaugt... :( -- Kari Jakobi MUA: The Bat! 1.48 Beta/4 OS: Windows 98 4.10 A Um meinen PGP-Schlüssel zu erhalten, senden Sie eine eMail an: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
macro question about s/mime and pgp
Hello list, I was wondering if there is a macro for using in the templates to make a decision between the use of pgp or s/mime. I know the macro "%signcomplete", but can I specify this macro a bit more precisly to make a difference between the use of s/mime or pgp? Like "%signcomplete=pgp" or "%signcomplete=s/mime" TIA -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: setting TB! to text view
On Sunday, November 05, 2000, 6:42:49 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> This template also contains the %SIGNCOMPLETE macro JR> & when I viewed the draft after I signed my msg w JR> PGP the "-- " is altered to what you currently see JR> above my signature. I repeated this twice w the same JR> result. Do you, or anybody, have any thoughts on JR> this weirdness? I had the same problems w/ PGP, so I decided to not use it on this board, because of the known problems ("- -- "). Though the sig can be removed by adding the following line to your reply template: %QUOTES="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n) ?\s*)?(.*?)(^(- --|--\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH =""%text""%SUBPATT=""3""" JR> BTW, Kari, are you a list moderator? No, I am not a list moderator, Jan. I just wanted to remind you as a "brother in list". No disrespect. -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: setting TB! to text view
On Sunday, November 05, 2000, 5:42:54 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> Hello BatListers, JR> At times I get msgs in other than text format & TB! JR> seems to default to that view. Do you mean HTML? Therefore go to "Options" and turn HTML-Autoview off. Messages will be displayed in plain text. The HTML will be available as an attachement. BTW, could you please add the "-- " above your sig? Thank you -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filters only MOVE messages?
On Sunday, November 05, 2000, 11:41:52 AM, canderson wrote: c> Do filters only MOVE messages? I need them to also COPY. Can it? Choose "Create A Copy Of Message In Another Folder" from the "Actions" tab of the sorting office/filters settings. Regards -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moving folders
On Sunday, November 05, 2000, 11:51:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ztod> how do I move folders across different accounts? you can just drag & drop them from one account to the other. sometimes there can be difficulties. see "Folder Transfer between Accounts" by Tony A. T. Medina, although I think it's a specific problem to him, which is rather rare. HTH -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NAV Email Protection, Needed with THEBAT! or not?
On Saturday, November 04, 2000, 4:21:33 PM, canderson wrote: c> Do I still need to use Norton 2001 email protection if I am using c> thebat!? TB! itself is almost immune to the feared mail virii such as the worms. but if you receive infested messages w/ or w/o attachments and save them to your disc and open them afterwards with another application you are busted. so the answer is definately YES. c> And if I should continue using it, how does one configure NAV to see c> thebat!? Under Account Properties choose "Transport" there you have to change the Mail Server (normally your pop3 server) to "127.0.0.1" without the quotaion marks. Then include your pop3 server address into your user name field. Should look like this: USER: login.name/pop3.server.name You have to do this manually for each account you want to be checked by NAV HTH -- Kari Jakobi To obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
fitler question (...again)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi list! is there a way in which i can configure my filters exclusively to the filtertext? i want the messages adressed to _one special_ person moved to folder _one special_ . i usually send to this _one special_ person also group messages. whenever the name of this person shows up in the to: field that message is moved to a.m. folder. Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfmZ3UEJciaSUjmtEQJgVQCdF4u3+bbfmRxyIcOOPtoZtwqFAN0AoKG8 HiuvybnwGPWq8+G9a96QMba8 =owK6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
new mails received view order
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello list! i' fighting the a big problem since a few days. my inbox is sorted by old to new ones by date/time opening the first new message i proceed with the button "previous" since "next" brings me back in time to the already read messages in that inbox. but sometimes tb! does not open the next message but one which is located some mails downwards. ex.: from: to: subj:created: dierk haasismarck sorry to david and...Oct 26th 2000,19:51 joeojoeo re:tbb and tbi files Oct 26th 2000,20:02 dierk haasisming li re:mapi againOct 26th 2000,20:03 marc sommer roel re:pasting text and wrap Oct 26th 2000,20:03 i viewed dierk's "sorry to david and..." message, jumped via "previous" button to the next message and ended up in marc sommer's reply to roel. closed the message window, proceeded with joeo's mail. went on to next message - ended up again in the wrong message (tb! again left 2 msgs out). seems to be the only system in it. anybody help? Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOflfnkEJciaSUjmtEQJ0vgCeP1PwHqv1e/zT7AoLXUnNILbYZ2EAn0Cp rheII+HAYeUH0ISiWYTjfUHV =frch -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: A question about cookies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on the mission for "A question about cookies", Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP> The only other thing to say about cookies is to make sure that you are MDP> aware that each separate cookie takes up a single line of a cookie MDP> file. To break single cookies over multiple lines, you have to use the MDP> \n special character combination to add a line break within a cookie. just adding "/n" to every second, third... line of a single cookie taking up more than one line isn't it. what do you mean with "special character combination, marck? what do i have to do to break em over multiple lines? can someone give an example? - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfbneUEJciaSUjmtEQL+hwCfXyJ/Yf+XLyBA/Bo8aIaW6b3OCO8AoKzJ YuLH4qW+FlJGZv/rP3PHSDXE =BgIE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: templates via ab?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on the mission for "templates via ab?", Markus Gloede wrote: MG> Actually, working in a bilingual environment I have asked for a MG> language setting in the address book for ages. I can't create a MG> template for every individual address book entry, there should be MG> something like a language field which would at least allow MG> spellchecking in the proper language. see a. curtis martin's first reply on this issue hth - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVfrkEJciaSUjmtEQIzvwCgkEtXUtWmGenanx0TNR9wAuXm3kAAoMWE 5EZxklH355kfrZmr+M0kZDZt =KZhh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
(No Subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVdvkEJciaSUjmtEQLJOQCfXAI6l/a5ioizFw/HjD8nreAxgW8AnRUl V7sgr0hCuhV9Iz2HXeV8BVUn =AW6T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: templates via ab?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on the mission for "templates via ab?", A . Curtis Martin wrote: ACM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ACM> Hash: SHA1 ACM> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:28:20 +0200, Kari Jakobi wrote: KJ>> is there a possibility to connect fast templates with some people in my KJ>> ab? to clarify: usually i send/receive messages in german. some of my ab KJ>> entries are english speaking, so i want to use a fast template where KJ>> everything is in english for them and my defaults for the rest. ACM> Yes. Use the %language="" macro in your AB templates. sorry, my fault. i meant "quick templates" instead of fast templates. can i have special layouted quick templates for my english people. so that i select a user from my ab --> new message --> tb! opens a new msg with the defined template. eg. "herr schmid" will be opened with my template for german users which is: =Ursprüngliche Nachricht= Von:%OFROMNAME mailto:%OFROMADDR Gesendet: %ODATE %OTIMELONG An: %OTONAME mailto:%OTOADDR Betreff:%OSUBJ %TEXT =Beginn der neuen Nachricht= and "mr. john smith" will be opened with my template for english users: =Original Message= From: %OFROMNAME mailto:%OFROMADDR Sent: %ODATE %OTIMELONG To: %OTONAME mailto:%OTOADDR Subject: %OSUBJ %TEXT =Begin Of New Message= you see what i mean? is it possible? - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVQgEEJciaSUjmtEQL+7wCcDWAJ1YE8kz1bxqFzh2RXQZxnBZ8AoNs9 nhrWOSR5DDK0EOzgxhas5F1P =nlhu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: OT: registering tb!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on the mission for "OT: registering tb!", Paul White wrote: PW> Hello Kari, PW> Tuesday, October 24, 2000, 10:34:28 AM, you wrote: KJ>> how long will i be able to use tb! in registered mode? up to KJ>> version 2.00 or what? until the end of time? on the pages of rit KJ>> there is nothing said about that issue. PW> You have 30-days. It says this at the bottom of the home page of TB! PW> web site. i know that. you didn'get the point. i meant who long in REGISTERED MODE - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVOIEEJciaSUjmtEQLSGACg6dfDm31r5yLMUSYMT3p/F7LD3joAoPXZ odOQdxCkBCTJFFQvaCkoSJZO =kJmf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: registering tb!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 how long will i be able to use tb! in registered mode? up to version 2.00 or what? until the end of time? on the pages of rit there is nothing said about that issue. someone knows? Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVJmUEJciaSUjmtEQKGaACdE5+mzOX8aXU3NPlmKS8LvpUPzbgAoOGm /00ZPpTitPonOj9dFx3zlClY =q81n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
templates via ab?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 is there a possibility to connect fast templates with some people in my ab? to clarify: usually i send/receive messages in german. some of my ab entries are english speaking, so i want to use a fast template where everything is in english for them and my defaults for the rest. Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfVIKUEJciaSUjmtEQJ8RACg37HOi1PisCDUweTy6KM5AYZ/uG0AoMam kSjuMCjUwSh7fPwBjruphdNd =i12Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: word wrap test for curtis (was Re: wrong wordwrap)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on the mission for "wrong wordwrap", A . Curtis Martin wrote: ACM> Even the wrapping of your unquoted text is off as shown above. I think ACM> PGP is at work here. Go into the PGP preferences and disable the option ACM> to wrap clear-signed text. this is just another test. i disabled the option to wrap clear-signed text. i hope it works. thank you for your help! - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfU98kEJciaSUjmtEQKeQACg4FPZtfMwiuDo3WWyWXPjDhg5b1wAn0Io hVgj92wAlyuVaasgolLuwLd2 =U9AG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
wrong wordwrap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 when i answer a message and use =%QUOTES i get in trouble with the right border. in my window when editing the mail everything looks fine. after sending it, or receiving it back, sometimes single words of the quoted text were wordwrapped without the quoted prefix. i changed the global editor settings of "wordwrap at" but nothing happened... quoted text isn't changed at all. do i miss something? Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfUzykEJciaSUjmtEQKnAwCg/FNjer/amGzZ+mDtjG9pb8Q3HaoAoPiz cuyEt3s7PBCgviGQ+MPFfC51 =jBYu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Meaningful Subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 =Original Message= From:A . Curtis Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Timestamp: Monday, October 23, 2000 19:51:12 To: Jan Rifkinson on TBUDL mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Meaningful Subjects [snip] ACM> ... which takes away from the spirit of the list ACM> which is to *relax*, take part in and learn from *civil* discussions on ACM> TB!. :-) We don't need a glossary of subject prefixes to achieve this. but, ummm, may i ask for a glossary of the common abbrev.'s on this list, like *PITA* (isn't it a greek bread?), HTH and the others... would be great as i'm new to them - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfRzLEEJciaSUjmtEQJKJgCcDcMPseHQHUVOVPKYE//P1BCQglcAoKz7 CK8I8OuTLe2PMrlK1JR1HmQw =yqPl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Selective Download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 =Original Message= From:Wayne Black mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Timestamp: Sunday, October 22, 2000 17:57:26 To: TBUDL mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Selective Download WB> 2) In the signal strings section it looks as though it looks in the WB> headers for the strings. This can only be addresses or words in the WB> subject field but not in the message body, is this correct? no. you can specify a string to search for. whereas "location" defines the place where to apply the rule on the msg. which would be "text" in your case. - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key erstellt mit The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 PGP Key ID: 0x925239AD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOfMGx0EJciaSUjmtEQKyEwCg70yuCDbGwUYIWvpIW2o3FRO8/+wAn0aG j/eM3Q7tDtVq0EN2ccVTuwYd =YS6q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
pgp complete msg signing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello batlisters! if i use the template option "%signcomplete" i get an error when trying to send the message. the error looks like the following after confirming my passphrase: "there is no certificate of signature for " and "no valid certificate of signature found. message can not be signed with s/mime." both are tb! error notifications, not pgp's. if i sign the msg manually with pgpi ver6.5.8 there's no problem. anybody help? Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A - -- Kari Jakobi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] um meinen PGP key zu erhalten, schicke eine email an folgende adresse: to obtain my PGP key send a message to the following address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp_key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOe8hXEEJciaSUjmtEQIX9gCgnxGzy5OBkFpsrFzejFCybXt9eFwAoIGg Bu1NEdr0yOUmH5j5DIDYbjtp =cGdN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org