Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello Robin Anson, As it seems no one else wants to even address this issue (which seems to be leading me AWAY from TB!) I will respond to your input. RA The best approach I can think of would be to create a filter to RA save the attachments to a particular directory. This would be a solution IF TB! would recognize them AS attachments that can be saved - IT DOESN'T! RA This could be a manual one, activated by a hotkey, or it could RA automatically act on all messages from relevant mailing lists. You RA could add this as an action to the filters that already act on RA these messages perhaps? The problem is, TB! doesn't even recognize these files _AS ATTACHMENTS_ and _WON'T_ save them. This has turned what was an automated solution back into HOURS of work on a daily basis. This is time I do not have to spend on this hobby interest! I realize this is not actually a TB! problem. This was an original judgement error on my part - IT IS a TB! problem, given the proliferation of this attachment scheme now. It will have to be addressed, which everyone on the list seems to want to ignore. RA I think TB! could do a better job of recognising the type of RA attachment than it does. That would certainly help since then you RA would see a separate tab in the email, and you could view the JPEG RA file in that. This is my point As this method becomes more widespread, it will HAVE TO be addressed, but that may come after I have had to abandon TB! for something that works NOW! This would be unfortunate, but there aren't enough 'weeks in a day' for me to now revert to manually filtering and saving these files. It just isn't worth it to me for what is a passive hobby. It is however a responsibility I have taken on and hundreds depend upon my doing it. Solutions anyone?? This is important!! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the fortnight: I'm in favor of love as long as it doesn't happen when 'The Simpsons' are on TV. (Anita, 6) /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML), especially the new AOL implementation! -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello Robin Anson, RA I assume that you store attachments in the message bodies not in a RA separate file. If the file has the name part-0123456.tmp in the RA email, TB! won't recognise it as a JPEG even if that is noted RA within the email like this: A94C3E2EE16FAA Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=part-0123456.tmp Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=part-0123456.tmp No, I use a filter to move the messages to the designated folder AND extract the attachments to a folder for permanent storage, even after the messages become out of date and are deleted. Actually, the HTML code for these attachments (actually inline images) is: --=_Part_2122047_14885485.1088497285198 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=part-57703.tmp Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=part-57703.tmp RA Strictly speaking, that is not a bug, but it would certainly be a RAdesirable feature to have TB! read the Content-Type header and RA display graphics files accordingly. EXACTLY!! Better yet, it should RECOGNIZE and SAVE the image file with the CORRECTED file extension, based upon the Content Type! If the filename is duplicated, it should auto-increment the filename as I have the preference set in the filter. I don't care about the filenames, as the original filenames seem to be lost in this questionable method of sending inline image attachments. Leave it to AOL to screw up a perfectly good standard! RA The best approach I can think of would be to create a filter to RA save the attachments to a particular directory. This could be a RA manual one, activated by a hotkey, or it could automatically act RA on all messages from relevant mailing lists. You could add this as RA an action to the filters that already act on these messages RA perhaps? I have tried this, however TB! doesn't recognize these files AS A VALID ATTACHMENT! I have even added the file type to the list of types under '/Options /Protection /Display without warning' which had no noticeable effect. I don't have the tools to handle this using an external solution (that I am aware of) perhaps by extracting the entire messages and processing them somehow externally. RA I think TB! could do a better job of recognising the type of RA attachment than it does. That would certainly help since then you RA would see a separate tab in the email, and you could view the JPEG RA file in that. This is what I am seeking, that TB! take this new and proliferating 'standard' of sending inline files into consideration, as they represent a VALID attachment file. If the file is displayed as a TAB, then it will be extracted and saved properly (I hope). Given the (unfortunate) market penetration of AOL Netscape, this will only become MORE of an issue as time passes. If necessary, I can run an external batch file to change the file extensions as needed. I would prefer that this be handled by TB! by properly recognizing the correct file type! Maybe this needs to move over to TBTECH?? This is turning what WAS a simple and fully automated process into a 3-5 hour a day chore for me, and I don't have that kind of time to waste! The bad thing is that these images are sent to me to be re-distributed on a mailing list. This redistribution TB! USED TO do well. Now it is plain drudgery. I can't control the mailer/ISP of the list members. Approximately 40% of the membership of this list unfortunately is AOHeller's :-( We collect and trade pictures of our pet parrots and their humorous antics. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the year: A Wok is what you twow at a wabbit! /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello tbudlr's, I am running into a problem with messages posted by AOHellr's Netscape mail (so far). The attachments are posted 'inline' and with a filename of part-0123456.tmp. The files are actually *.jpg files, which I normally have extracted to a specific folder (for each group or list I am a member of). The problem is, I need a way to have TB! AUTOMATICALLY extract these files to said folder(s) and CHANGE the filename to an extension of .jpg. No matter what I have tried, TB! will NOT _recognize_ and extract these files automatically! Is there a solution or workaround?? If I can have TB! just SAVE these files, I can invoke an external renaming batch file to handle the file extension change. The problem is I have been UNABLE to have TB! save these attached files automatically. The HTML (YUCK!) version correctly displays these files AS JPG's. I still can't do anything but MANUALLY save and change the file's extension with each e-mail. This is impractical with 250-300 of them arriving in 35 filtered folders daily. I have gotten to the point where I don't even READ these messages anymore, as they are exclusively JUST file attachments. I just review the stored attachments on a semi-weekly basis. I realize this is not actually a TB! problem. It is rather a CHANGE in the 'standard' of how attached files are sent by a specific (and GROWING) segment of the cyber population! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for this dialup connection: Only a mediocre person is always at his best. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello again tbudler's, One additional comment on this troubling matter. It is also quite impossible to forward these 'abnormal' messages in a way that includes the images using TB! for the forwarded message. As I don't have any other mail client installed (including MS Outhouse/Express), I can't test it with them. I won't allow such crapware to be resident on any system I am responsible for :-) For me, it's The Bat! or forget it. I'm a bit surprised at the total lack of a response to my query thus far. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Radioactive halibut (or TROUT!) will make fission chips. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
On Thu 1 July 2004, 0:35:26 +1000, Spike wrote: I am running into a problem with messages posted by AOHellr's Netscape mail (so far). The attachments are posted 'inline' and with a filename of part-0123456.tmp. The files are actually *.jpg files, which I normally have extracted to a specific folder (for each group or list I am a member of). The problem is, I need a way to have TB! AUTOMATICALLY extract these files to said folder(s) and CHANGE the filename to an extension of .jpg. No matter what I have tried, TB! will NOT _recognize_ and extract these files automatically! I assume that you store attachments in the message bodies not in a separate file. If the file has the name part-0123456.tmp in the email, TB! won't recognise it as a JPEG even if that is noted within the email like this: A94C3E2EE16FAA Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=part-0123456.tmp Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=part-0123456.tmp Strictly speaking, that is not a bug, but it would certainly be a desirable feature to have TB! read the Content-Type header and display graphics files accordingly. Is there a solution or workaround?? If I can have TB! just SAVE these files, I can invoke an external renaming batch file to handle the file extension change. The problem is I have been UNABLE to have TB! save these attached files automatically. The best approach I can think of would be to create a filter to save the attachments to a particular directory. This could be a manual one, activated by a hotkey, or it could automatically act on all messages from relevant mailing lists. You could add this as an action to the filters that already act on these messages perhaps? I realize this is not actually a TB! problem. I think TB! could do a better job of recognising the type of attachment than it does. That would certainly help since then you would see a separate tab in the email, and you could view the JPEG file in that. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?
Hi All, I recently convinced a friend of mine to take the plunge and buy The Bat. Unfortunately, The Bat's import wizard doesn't have an option to import messages or address books from Netscape 7 and I can't find an export function anywhere in Netscape 7. Is this a non-starter or am I missing something obvious? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?
Hello Nick, On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 8:33:21 PM, you wrote: NO Hi All, NO I recently convinced a friend of mine to take the plunge and buy The NO Bat. Unfortunately, The Bat's import wizard doesn't have an option to NO import messages or address books from Netscape 7 and I can't find an NO export function anywhere in Netscape 7. NO Is this a non-starter or am I missing something obvious? I haven't tried this, but outlook express does have the capability to import messages and address books from various other programs, including Netscape. Once in outhouse, you can then do the bat import. -- Best regards, Davemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?
Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:33:21 [GMT -0500] (3:33 PM EST here) Nick OHare2 wrote: Hi All, I recently convinced a friend of mine to take the plunge and buy The Bat. Unfortunately, The Bat's import wizard doesn't have an option to import messages or address books from Netscape 7 and I can't find an export function anywhere in Netscape 7. Is this a non-starter or am I missing something obvious? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. QUOTE from TheBat!'s help: The Bat! address book can import raw address information from any client that can export the information to: - LDIF File - Vcard - Comma Separated File - Tab Separated File - .INI file format ENDQUOTE If Netscape 7 can export to one of those formats, from TheBat!'s address book menu, select the File | Import from option and choose the import method you want to use. It's ugly, but a simple, crude, brute force if all else fails way to add the e-mail addresses, possibly the display names, but no other data to your TheBat! address book is: 1. Use Netscape 7 to send a single, Test Do Not Read message To: everyone in the Netscape 7 address book, including yourself. Do not download any messages, CLOSE NETSCAPE IMMEDIATELY. 2. Start TheBat! and download your e-mail. One of the messages will be the test message To: everyone in the Netscape 7 address book. 3. Highlight the message and then TheBat! | Specials | Add recipient to Address Book -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?
Hello Nick, Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 9:33:21 PM, you wrote: NO I recently convinced a friend of mine to take the plunge and buy The NO Bat. Unfortunately, The Bat's import wizard doesn't have an option to NO import messages or address books from Netscape 7 and I can't find an NO export function anywhere in Netscape 7. NO Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. As far as the addresses are concerned, this free tool, Dawn should do. http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/ Export to LDIF, rather than to The Bat directly. Then import from LDif. -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March 05, 2003 at 16:35:11GMT -0500 (which was 4:35 PM where I live) Daniel Grunberg wrote and made these points on the subject of Importing messages and address book from Netscape 7?: DG Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:33:21 [GMT -0500] (3:33 PM EST here) Nick OHare2 DG wrote: Hi All, SNIP Is this a non-starter or am I missing something obvious? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. DG QUOTE from TheBat!'s help: DG The Bat! address book can import raw address information from any DG client that can export the information to: DG - LDIF File I'm pretty sure N7 can export address books to LDIF... I know Mozilla can. - -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Motivation determines what you do...Attitude determines how well you do it. Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-nr1 (Windows 98) iD8DBQE+ZoGo8BowLud/+3gRAuuuAJ41RIMGsS6KQ5Oxig7DjQTkk0Ks5ACgpiJ8 qx/kvkxo0GanfEYXosajgGE= =aed5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Hi, I've just installed Netscape 7.01 and I think it's much better than IE. The only problem I have is that Netscape wants :) to use its email client and I want to use TheBat instead. I've found in the faq that in the last version of Netscape the problem could be solved with NsProto. I've installed the last version 1.1 but when I click on register it tells me that Create Dispatch Failed. I'm using winXp. So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? thaks -- @D! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Davidhoff, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Davidhoff wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? There are two answers to your dilemma. One is to uninstall NS and then reinstall it with a custom installation. Deselect the MailNews component. The other way to fix the problem is to add a line to your userprefs.js file. I do not have the cite, but there are some unofficial help pages on the 'net which have instructions on how to do this. Take a look, then repost here if you cannot find one. (Be very careful, however, to have NS closed when you make the change.) FWIW, you might also consider keeping NS mail in order to have the capability to send HTML mail if necessary. I do not often have to do that, but once in a while the need arises. [Flamers please restrain yourselves ;-) ] Since I archive my old mail into a different format anyway, it doesn't matter to me that a few messages originate in a different message base. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joseph, Monday, December 30, 2002, 10:31:54 AM, you wrote: JN Davidhoff, JNOn Monday, December 30, 2002, Davidhoff wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? I Use Mozilla instead and the below code when inserted into the user preferences file does the trick. user_pref(network.protocol-handler.external.mailto, true); Close out Netscape completely then navigate to your profiles directory. Find the javascript prefs file and *BACK IT UP* Insert the above code and launch Netscape. Try it out as since it works on Mozilla for me and it's sort of the grand daddy behind Netscapes browser it might work :) Your pref file should be located somewhere within the top most directory of your profile. I hope I helped :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhBph13LB35+TCg0EQJk/ACg+Vy6AvsgfbUBbSZb0r1WD+LcHi8AoJ56 bcqfvDWAClXur5RYpQCyHzqv =ngyR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
Victor, On Monday, December 30, 2002, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your pref file should be located somewhere within the top most directory of your profile. But be sure to modify the userprefs.js file not one of the other *prefs.js file. If there is no userprefs.js file, then create one. NS will add your line to its nsprefs.js file, or whatever it's called. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat with Netscape
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 4:18:37 AM, Thomas wrote in message mid:513335439.20021023101837;gmx.net TF Now I see what you mean. Reply quoting only marked text works with TF Reply but not with Reply to all. That is unfortunately correct, TF until such time that the wish to use Reply to all quoting only marked TF text is implemented. Personally, I have no idea whether this will be TF in the next version or not. Thanks Thomas, maybe I can add it to the wishlist then? -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat with Netscape
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 9:39:38 AM, Roelof wrote in message mid:1522837917.20021023103938;krakeel.org RO Providing you filter each list into it's own folder, you could create RO a specific reply-template for each of those folders. In each RO reply-template you set the list-address hard-coded in the template. RO This would mean that all replies you make in such a specific folder RO will go to the matching list. Since you keep only list-messages in RO those folders this is without danger that you reply to a non list RO message. RO (This can be done with something like: RO %To=%To=%OFromName on list listaddress%- RO the first %to is to make the addressfield empty, the %- is to put the RO command on it's own line in the template, without creating an empty RO line.) Thanks Roelof, I had a play with this is the reply folder for one of the lists (they are all filtered to their own folder) and found that the line you quoted included the name of the person who had made the post plus the listname which I didn't ewant to include, but if I edit it to read thus: %To=%To=listname %- then it simply puts the list address in the reply field and does exactly what I want it to do. Your help and advice is much appreciated :-) -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hello Anne, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 03:14:22 +0100 GMT (25/10/02, 09:14 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: TF Now I see what you mean. Reply quoting only marked text works with TF Reply but not with Reply to all. That is unfortunately correct, TF until such time that the wish to use Reply to all quoting only marked TF text is implemented. Personally, I have no idea whether this will be TF in the next version or not. Thanks Thomas, maybe I can add it to the wishlist then? It is in there somewhere, but it would do no harm if you add it again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hallo Anne, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:55:24 +0100GMT (23-10-02, 2:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A Where I have a problem is where the listowner has not opted to have A replies go back to the list by default (this is entirely the A listowners choice). In this case I have to use the reply all option to A have the list address in the reply to fields at all, Providing you filter each list into it's own folder, you could create a specific reply-template for each of those folders. In each reply-template you set the list-address hard-coded in the template. This would mean that all replies you make in such a specific folder will go to the matching list. Since you keep only list-messages in those folders this is without danger that you reply to a non list message. (This can be done with something like: %To=%To=%OFromName on list listaddress%- the first %to is to make the addressfield empty, the %- is to put the command on it's own line in the template, without creating an empty line.) After doing this, you'd come to think that this a neat way to direct your new list messages to their list too, but that is not without any danger. TB sees the selected folder and uses that template, that would be as you'd like, but it'll do that too when you click on a mailto link in your browser or when you think you're writing a very private message while you've selected the list. Don't say it won't happen to you, since it's happened to quite lot already. The only reason it hasn't happen to me (I certainly work sloppy enough for it.) is that I've never created new message templates with a hard-coded address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat with Netscape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gi'day All, Firstly, I'm a newbie with The Bat! and found the initial learning curve daunting, but having subscribed to this forum have learnt more in past 3 days (since subscription) than in the 2 months I've used The Bat! I now feel like a boy in a bloody big toy shop and am really looking forward to using the program to its full potential. Keep up the good work!! It certainly kept me perservering with the program. My question. Has anyone been able to use The Bat as mailer with Netscape 7.0? I followed instructions on FAQ page and downloaded NSProto, but I can't get the change to register. All I get is an error message Create Dispatch Failed. As there is no help file, I haven't a clue what this means. Anyone got any ideas? Second question, what is the precedence of templates? If I use F4 to reply to a message I get one template, if I use Ctrl-F4 I get another. It is somewhat frustrating. - -- Cheers, Tom Sadler mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Three Laws Of Thermodynamics, God Shoots Dice Style: First Law: You can't win. Second Law: You can't break even. Third Law: You can't even get out of the game. ___ Proudly using The Bat! Version 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: THIS IS NOT A VIRUS OR OTHER NASTY!!! iQA/AwUBPbR86OqOB7wBnLp5EQLlVwCgvS9THLm8jYdeILswX5hcwalCYjkAn2kV v+8g3Onyy9Dv5TKU7Yz3MkIh =VC6e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hallo Tom, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:16:54 +1000GMT (22-10-02, 10:16 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: TS Second question, what is the precedence of templates? If I use F4 TS to reply to a message I get one template, if I use Ctrl-F4 I get TS another. It is somewhat frustrating. TB has got four kinds of templates, this is the order that TB will use them: Personal address book templates Address book group templates Folder templates Account templates But the problem you've been encountering is not a template issue. You're using different functions for your replies: Ctrl-Enter:reply (this is the one I use most of the time) Ctrl-F5: reply F4:quoting selected text only Ctrl-F4: reply to sender Shift-F4: reply without quotes Ctrl-Sfift-F5: reply to all When you use F4 you'll reply to the reply-to header (as set in the original message) quoting only the text that you've selected in the message, no selected text means no quotes. When you reply with Ctrl-F4, you reply to the sender, not to the reply-to, this means that with messages on this list list you'd reply to the list bounce address, thus depriving all list member of your insights. ;-) And causing your message to be written in vain. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gi'day Roelof, On Tuesday, 22 October 2002 at 11:46:47GMT +0200 (which was 7:46 PM where I live) Roelof Otten wrote:: RO But the problem you've been encountering is not a template issue. You're RO using different functions for your replies: Thanks for that. It's obvious when I sat down and played with each one. The way I've got things set up on my system, Ctrl-F4 uses the folder template and F4 uses address group one. It helps to label the templates so I know what I'm doing! wry grin - -- Cheers, Tom mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They say when nature calls you should answer it, I say let the answering machine get it. ___ Proudly using The Bat! Version 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: THIS IS NOT A VIRUS OR OTHER NASTY!!! iQA/AwUBPbSWlOqOB7wBnLp5EQLvDACfXaPLHBY9rqz4Z5ADgGU7KZ39sqUAn1D8 yAImEOeQv1w7LXfaOA00+Ier =4QK3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Tom, On 22-10-2002 12:06, you [T] wrote in mid:295627541.20021022200634;tpg.com.au: T The way I've got things set up on my system, Ctrl-F4 uses the folder T template and F4 uses address group one. How do you do that? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:26:57 +0200GMT (22-10-02, 12:26 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: T The way I've got things set up on my system, Ctrl-F4 uses the folder T template and F4 uses address group one. PF How do you do that? That would be easy. Ctrl-F4 (Reply to sender) replies to an address not in his address book. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Roelof, On 22-10-2002 12:54, you [R] wrote in mid:7052582677.20021022125407;krakeel.org: R That would be easy. Ctrl-F4 (Reply to sender) replies to an address R not in his address book. Cool. I never thought of that. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 5:46 AM, you wrote: RO But the problem you've been encountering is not a template issue. RO You're using different functions for your replies: RO Ctrl-Enter:reply (this is the one I use most of the time) RO Ctrl-F5: reply RO F4:quoting selected text only RO Ctrl-F4: reply to sender RO Shift-F4: reply without quotes RO Ctrl-Sfift-F5: reply to all lately, when I do a CTRL-F4 , the new email window comes up and the TO: says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not the original senders address, is this correct?? when I look at the original email window I see the real info for the sender - Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mailaholics International) -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @22-Oct-2002, 08:14 -0400 (13:14 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:46171306140.20021022081451;pcartwright.com said: PC lately, when I do a CTRL-F4 , the new email window comes up and PC the TO: says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC not the original senders address, is this correct?? No. It is a violation of RFC 822 whereby TB is using the Sender header instead of the From header. Reply to all was also doing the same, but this behaviour was fixed in beta 7. Hopefully the Reply to sender will be fixed in beta 8. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9tUtPOeQkq5KdzaARAmWTAJ0fCo1tOtz+WKzO5C7+ZnIMX0QX9QCg7f2S hnyDFqZ6yhigW6Z1YvwS8+8= =7TxL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:295627541.20021022200634;tpg.com.au, Tom Sadler [TS] wrote:' TS The way I've got things set up on my system, Ctrl-F4 uses the TS folder template and F4 uses address group one. These shortcuts don't use specific templates. Templates are chosen depending on who the message is addressed to. If you hit CTRL-F4 and the recipient address in the created message is in your address book and a template has been defined there, then the address book template is used. Otherwise, the folder template will be used instead. It really has nothing directly to do with what shortcut you use to generate the message. It has everything to do with the address that's in the To: field. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta7 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9tU+BV8nrYCsHF+IRAtosAJsEG2u5iGH8PMZE/lsmIRJPMvxVrQCgoQRM 7UR+7+w7XnFVitGZkMCsp94= =WM15 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hi Marck, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:57:49 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lately, when I do a CTRL-F4 , the new email window comes up and the TO: says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not the original senders address, is this correct?? No. It is a violation of RFC 822 whereby TB is using the Sender header instead of the From header. I see the point 'Reply to Sender' using in fact the 'Sender:' header is quite useless (most of the time, soembody out there might have a use for it), and therefore should be changed to using 'From:' but I don't see the violation of RFC822... Could you eleborate? Could be PM if nobody else 's intereseted. -- Pit Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 9:16:54 AM, Tom wrote in message mid:1682946186.20021022181654;tpg.com.au TS having subscribed to this forum have learnt more in past 3 days TS (since subscription) than in the 2 months I've used The Bat! I TS now feel like boy in a bloody big toy shop and am really looking TS forward to using the program to its full potential. Tom that is just how I feel about this list and TB as well. I'm amazed at how many new features I've picked up in a couple of weeks onlist. I had just set up TB as a basic e-mail client and not really explored all the add ons. That is one of TB's great strengths I feel - being able to use it at whatever level you want to - without *having* to learn about the more advanced things until you're ready. TB functions great at a basic level as well as with all the bells and whistles you'd ever need! (Well almost all! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat with Netscape
Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 10:46:47 AM, Roelof wrote in message mid:18048541322.20021022114647;krakeel.org RO You're using different functions for your replies: RO Ctrl-Enter:reply (this is the one I use most of the time) RO Ctrl-F5: reply RO F4:quoting selected text only RO Ctrl-F4: reply to sender RO Shift-F4: reply without quotes RO Ctrl-Sfift-F5: reply to all Is there any way of combining the F4 quoting selected text reply with the reply to all option, as on many of the genealogy lists I sub to the reply to is set to go to list by default (done by their listserver software), but TB's reply to option actually sends back to the sender not the list. Reply all is really useful in those cases - but I also like the F4 quoted text reply. Am I asking to be able to have my cake and eat it here? g -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 8:57 AM, you wrote: PC lately, when I do a CTRL-F4 , the new email window comes up and PC the TO: says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC not the original senders address, is this correct?? MDP No. It is a violation of RFC 822 whereby TB is using the Sender MDP header instead of the From header. Reply to all was also doing the MDP same, but this behaviour was fixed in beta 7. Hopefully the Reply to MDP sender will be fixed in beta 8. thanks, I thought I was losing it ( again;) ! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hallo Anne, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:38:26 +0100GMT (22-10-02, 18:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A on many of the genealogy lists I sub to the reply to is set to go A to list by default (done by their listserver software), but TB's A reply to option actually sends back to the sender not the list. In that case you're probably using the wrong key to reply to the message or you've somehow managed to create a faulty reply-template. If the Reply-To header in the message is set to a list address, F4 should create a message to the list address with the selected text as quotation. If it's not set to the list address, than you've create a reply-template (on folder or account base) that overrules the address you're writing to. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat with Netscape
Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 6:19:01 PM, Roelof wrote in message mid:975679409.20021022191901;krakeel.org RO In that case you're probably using the wrong key to reply to the RO message or you've somehow managed to create a faulty reply-template. RO If the Reply-To header in the message is set to a list address, F4 RO should create a message to the list address with the selected text as RO quotation. RO If it's not set to the list address, than you've create a RO reply-template (on folder or account base) that overrules the address RO you're writing to. Hi Roelof, I've been and rechecked and find I explained wrongly what was happening earlier. (Probably not enough coffee intake!!! g) Some of the lists have the reply to list option set (by the listowner) as default and where that is the case using the F4 quoting reply to option works fine and replies to the list as it should do with just the bit I want to quote. Where I have a problem is where the listowner has not opted to have replies go back to the list by default (this is entirely the listowners choice). In this case I have to use the reply all option to have the list address in the reply to fields at all, and then I have to delete the address of the original sender so that my reply goes solely to the list. It's in this case that I have the problem with F4 and the reply all option not being usable together. -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat with Netscape
Hello Anne, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:55:24 +0100 GMT (23/10/02, 07:55 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: Where I have a problem is where the listowner has not opted to have replies go back to the list by default (this is entirely the listowners choice). In this case I have to use the reply all option to have the list address in the reply to fields at all, and then I have to delete the address of the original sender so that my reply goes solely to the list. It's in this case that I have the problem with F4 and the reply all option not being usable together. Now I see what you mean. Reply quoting only marked text works with Reply but not with Reply to all. That is unfortunately correct, until such time that the wish to use Reply to all quoting only marked text is implemented. Personally, I have no idea whether this will be in the next version or not. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. On the other hand, you have different fingers. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing msg from Netscape 7
Hello TheBats, Can someone share their how-to import msgs from Netscape v7. into TheBat 1.61? -- Best regards, Roman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have the spamcop autoresponder filter that was discussed a while back on the list, I made a modification to it (in terms of locations etc), and set it to continue with other filters. The problem is that when I get an email from spamcop that matches (when I submit spam), it launches netscape (as designed), but won't continue processing mail, and will not let me continue until I have closed netscape down. I tried setting, and unsetting the Continue with other filters switch, but it didn't make any different. As soon as netscape opens, the command window stays open, and I have to close netscape (ALL sessions) before the command window will go away. If I don't, I cannot get any email as it is still 'processing' that one spamcop email. What is wrong? It is a pain every time I get a spamcop report, having to close all my browsers just to continue getting mail. I've pasted the entire filter below for review... ===8--- BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Active: 1 Source: \\Certiflex Dimension\Inbox Target: \\Certiflex Dimension\Inbox\abuse\Spam Cop CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion,faoContinueProcessing,faDelServer,faFlag,faoToggleFlag AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: C:\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\spamcop.bat ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5Cnetscape\5Cnetscape\5Cnetscp.exe\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter ===8--- Thanks in advance. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTwqhiuD6BT4/R9zEQLpgwCg62u1m8NhzCvURyn0oJJ2SfJZLwkAoLQI 4lyF1pe+nGUdr7IkYAg4RETk =wEKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
Hi Jonathan, on Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:53:37 -0500GMT (22.07.02, 17:53 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JA the command window stays open, and I have to close netscape (ALL JA sessions) before the command window will go away. I think I had the same problem when starting with this filter. This is the reply I got upon my request to TBUDL: Once (just once) click on the Properties of that open DOS window and turn on the Exit when finished (or whatever it's called) option and then close the window manually. It will close automatically thereafter. It worked! :o) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 22, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote... Once (just once) click on the Properties of that open DOS window and turn on the Exit when finished (or whatever it's called) option and then close the window manually. It will close automatically thereafter. I cannot find an Exit when finished option on the XP's .bat files unfortunately. The problem is, when I close netscape, the .bat file closes too, and continues on it's merry way... I just have to close ALL instances of netscape before it goes away. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTwu4CuD6BT4/R9zEQJt4gCg24AoYiNTRNm0vcukDOSW6Dc/weYAn0OC zRHS1V/SKjDNRatdXdGh602Z =GHzf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 22, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... JA Actions: ... faoWaitCompletion ... This is the one ^ Under the Execute this command, the Wait for completion checkbox is turned on. Why? Because where there are multiple notifications coming in, the single batch file is overwritten and that can cause problems. As I submit one spam at a time, is it okay to remove that option? Or do I just have to live with it? Does it really matter once netscape has been called if the batch file is overwritten? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTwvaCuD6BT4/R9zEQILuACgqEQF1qIE4aUSo3QlDXCrljo65OgAn3vM Eegh/x8SoyxmqNxgeJ0FR8hH =fReZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
Hi Jonathan, on Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:12:12 -0500GMT (22.07.02, 18:12 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JA I cannot find an Exit when finished option on the XP's .bat files I see. I didn't realize you're running XP. I can't say anything about that... -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @22 July 2002, 10:53 -0500 (16:53 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: JA As soon as netscape opens, the command window stays open, and I JA have to close netscape (ALL sessions) before the command window JA will go away. ... snip JA Actions: ... faoWaitCompletion ... This is the one ^ Under the Execute this command, the Wait for completion checkbox is turned on. Why? Because where there are multiple notifications coming in, the single batch file is overwritten and that can cause problems. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9PC5gOeQkq5KdzaARAkMoAJ9wjWpdkf+oqh4Jfz3oAcw50HVX1gCgs65D If5bJrlgC4SidkQD1Vb5wWE= =1pSH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 22, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote... JA I cannot find an Exit when finished option on the XP's .bat files I see. I didn't realize you're running XP. I can't say anything about that... I can say many things about it... many of which would probably offend those that dislike strong language ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTwzcyuD6BT4/R9zEQIEywCdF0BUdf++N8VL4RPq8kWtsMs3cokAn0jU vu09LJAkT1gzOy1ZGLj2kRu/ =Kfjs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @22 July 2002, 11:14 -0500 (17:14 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: JA As I submit one spam at a time, is it okay to remove that option? Absolutely. I sometimes end up with three going off in one hit, so I need that option to stabilize things. JA Or do I just have to live with it? Does it really matter once JA netscape has been called if the batch file is overwritten? Not really - unless it gets overwritten *before* it's called! (This happened to me and is why I turned on the switch in the first place). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9PDPrOeQkq5KdzaARAkpvAKDMf/6eH4SrgXCEbY0dMnbeOTf1AgCg204p Gfbr0+hhcL6jAKy55bkm4d4= =KlZ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spamcop Filter, and Netscape Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 22, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... JA As I submit one spam at a time, is it okay to remove that option? Absolutely. I sometimes end up with three going off in one hit, so I need that option to stabilize things. I used to do that, but I'd end up losing track of which ones I had submitted as TB! doesn't seem to change the colours of visited URLS ;) JA Or do I just have to live with it? Does it really matter once JA netscape has been called if the batch file is overwritten? Not really - unless it gets overwritten *before* it's called! (This happened to me and is why I turned on the switch in the first place). I shall give it a go, and see what happens. Thanks for point that out. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTw3cCuD6BT4/R9zEQLKZQCgpvlC+Tpqd449Mr9cJ6teXegHQYsAoJ4J lErBNDwwu3vnpFNpr7l6skfS =LTXG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
THANK YOU: was :TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79
Hello friends, Wanted to thank Peter and Sandro for helping me solve the address book problem. As you can see, I am now using TB!, although I still have a few minor problems queries. Thank you again. Joyce mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79 - Total newbie
Hello to all TB! friends. I'm still trying to sort out all my various installation problems. As it turned out, uninstalling and reinstalling TB! solved most of all the misterious problems. Now I'm left with 3 specific ones, for which I'll write separately, so that you can be free to choose what to answer to. Thank you in advance for all your help. ADDRESS BOOK - Importing from Netscape4.79 (preferable), or from OE6. Try as I might, I do not seem to find a way to make it import an address book, as it allows only abb, tbb files which I obviously don't have. Furthermore, it gives me the choice for CSV and TAB separators, which I really don't know how to apply to my previous programs. Any ideas please? Thanks you for your patience. Joyce ===Location:Tel Aviv - IsraelPhone :972 - 3 - 649 1806Fax : 972 - 3 - 644 4510Primary E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Alternative E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]** When the term "Global Village" will be a FEELING,** The world throughout will finally really be at PEACE.
Re: TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79 - Total newbie
Hello Joyce, On Friday, July 12, 2002 at 5:21:55 PM you wrote in 005301c229b7$dc3f86e0$340c08d5@joycesala">mid:005301c229b7$dc3f86e0$340c08d5@joycesala (at least in part): ADDRESS BOOK - Importing from Netscape4.79 (preferable), or from OE6. In Netscape open the address book, export it to 'LDIF' format and you're able to import the resulting file into TB!-AB. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) The facts, although interesting are irrelevant. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79 - Total newbie
Hello Joyce, On Friday, July 12, 2002 at 5:55:36 PM you wrote in 009d01c229bc$909e9e60$340c08d5@joycesala">mid:009d01c229bc$909e9e60$340c08d5@joycesala (at least in part): Is there a way to do that transformation without reinstalling CC479? Download http://www.iasnet.ru/~jia/ftp/inet/mail/wab2ldif/wab2ldif.exe Open your OE .wab file with this application and save as LDIF. I don't know if and how the 'Export to The Bat!' function works, so 'Save as LDIF' is the more secure way of doing it. P.S.: Thanks for keeping caps lesser in your mail than in previous ones. :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) A Poetic Borg: You will compose assimiliated rhythms and rhymes. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
RE: TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79 - Total newbie
Hi Joyce, (you) ADDRESS BOOK - Importing from Netscape4.79 (preferable), or from OE6.Try as I might, I do not seem to find a way to make it import an address book, as it allows only abb, tbb files which I obviously don't have. Furthermore, it gives me the choice for CSV and TAB separators, which I really don't know how to apply to my previous programs Any ideas please? (I) Don't know about Netscape, but if you can export to a type of file of the many that Dawn deal with, as I've mentioned before it seems to be very good (I converted all my Outlook address to TB, gpoing through Dawn). It's at http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zakharin/Software/download.html See if it works for you. Good luck, Sandro Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Importing Netscape 6 address book
Hi Januk, Thursday, July 4, 2002, 12:47:55 PM, you wrote: Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the export function seems to have been removed in version 6.2. You can import but not export. Go figure. One web site recommended a free address book manager named DAWN. http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zakharin/Software/Dawn.html I guess I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help. John Hello John, It was foretold that on Thursday, July 4, 2002 at 09:05 GMT -0500, John [J] would type: J I'm a newby still trying to get things configured. Can anyone tell J me how to move my Netscape 6.2 addresses into the Bat address book? In Netscape 4.7x there was an option to export the address book as an LDIF file. I don't know if that feature still exists in 6.2. If it does, do the export, then in TB, open the address book and hit - File - Import From - LDIF File That method seems to be the most reliable and easiest. -- Regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Importing Netscape 6 address book
Hi, I'm a newby still trying to get things configured. Can anyone tell me how to move my Netscape 6.2 addresses into the Bat address book? -- Regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Importing Netscape 6 address book
Hello John, It was foretold that on Thursday, July 4, 2002 at 09:05 GMT -0500, John [J] would type: J I'm a newby still trying to get things configured. Can anyone tell J me how to move my Netscape 6.2 addresses into the Bat address book? In Netscape 4.7x there was an option to export the address book as an LDIF file. I don't know if that feature still exists in 6.2. If it does, do the export, then in TB, open the address book and hit - File - Import From - LDIF File That method seems to be the most reliable and easiest. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal I've determined the momentum of my physics assignment so precisely that it can be anywhere in the universe right now. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mozilla and Netscape 7 format flowed messge format causing problems with The Bat! 1.60Q
On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 10:03:00 PM, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK I have been receiving e-mails from users using Mozilla 1.0.0+ and MK Netscape 7 PR1 using the default message format flowed settings. MK This is causing The Bat! 1.60Q to lock up and at times cause MK database file corruptions where I cannot recover messages in the MK mail folder where the message got received. [ snip ] What is the valid e-mail address to report bugs? When I sent this e-mail to this list and to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I received this bounced messge: The original message was received at Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:04:58 +0600 (YEKST) from host-212.56.194.249.mldnet.com [212.56.194.249] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 554 5.0.0 MX list for master.e-city.net.ru. points back to gateway.eastwind.ru 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error This is a critical bug in The Bat! that needs to get corrected. -- Using The Bat! v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Mozilla and Netscape 7 format flowed messge format causing problems with The Bat! 1.60Q
Hi Mark, On Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:03:00 [GMT -0400], you wrote: MK I have been receiving e-mails from users using Mozilla 1.0.0+ and MK Netscape 7 PR1 using the default message format flowed settings. MK This is causing The Bat! 1.60Q to lock up and at times cause MK database file corruptions where I cannot recover messages in the MK mail folder where the message got received. NACK. I just tried it with several format=flowed messages composed with Mozilla 0.9.9 on Linux. Both reading the messages and replying worked without any problems. BTW, concerning your other post in this thread, the preferred location to report bugs is the official bugtracker at https://bt.ritlabs.com, as mentioned in the list footer. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Mozilla and Netscape 7 format flowed messge format causing problems with The Bat! 1.60Q
I have been receiving e-mails from users using Mozilla 1.0.0+ and Netscape 7 PR1 using the default message format flowed settings. This is causing The Bat! 1.60Q to lock up and at times cause database file corruptions where I cannot recover messages in the mail folder where the message got received. I received a Mozilla 1.0.0+ e-mail message, plain text format, where I could read the message fine. When I tried to reply to the message either by highlighting the text in the message or pressing Ctrl+Enter to quote the entire message, the compose window appeared blank. When I tried to quote and reply to the e-mail, this disables all copy and paste functions in The Bat! and in Windows 2000 and Windows XP. I have to restart Windows 2000/XP to gain the copy and paste functionality back. When I receive a Netscape 7 PR1 message using format flowed format, The Bat! 1.60Q locks up when trying to read the plain text or HTML e-mail message. The mail folder that received these e-mails lost all e-mails. I am keeping the e-mail on the mail server as I am still using Forte, Inc. Agent to receive all e-mails. These Mozilla and Netscape 7 format flowed message problems only occur in The Bat! 1.60Q. I am trying to use The Bat! for my primary e-mail client, but with these problems I cannot do so as I cannot afford to lose e-mails. -- Using The Bat! v1.60q Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Wierd Netscape Mailto problems
TF b wrote: b Then apparently I did something to knacker it up. Before that b time, when I clicked on a mailto link in Netscape, the Bat would b launch, and a 'new message' window would be invoked with the b mailto address inserted into the address line. Now, when I click b on a mailto, the Bat launches, but without invoking a message b window (ie: it launches the Bat but doesn't initiate an actual b message). TF I don't have Netscape on my machine any more, so I canot look up what I TF think the culprit is: IIRC The Bat! is launched by Netscape with a TF parameter %1. This parameter seems to have got lost. Check where the TF path and program name for the application is that Netscape should open TF when encountering a mailto link (this might be in the registry) and TF add %1 (without quotes). For those keeping track - I got it, but that wasn't the issue. Typo in Nsproto: mailto%a instead of mailto:%a Thanks for the help! Cheers, b mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Wierd Netscape Mailto problems
Hello there Bat! list members: I'm new to this list, hope you can help me with a wierd one. Here goes: Iinstalledand registered the Bat (corporate license). I downloaded and ran NsProto as instructed on the website to register the Bat as the mailto application from within Netscape. This worked fine for a while - about two hours. Then apparently I did something to knacker it up. Before that time, when I clicked on a mailto link in Netscape, the Bat would launch, and a 'new message' window would be invoked with the mailto address inserted into the address line. Now, when I click on a mailto, the Bat launches, but without invoking a message window (ie: it launches the Bat but doesn't initiate an actual message). I have fruitlessly combed over the Bat for possible changes I might have unwittingly made for several hours. I have unregistered the protocol in Nsproto, deleted the protocol, made a new one, and re-registered it but still no change. I do hope you can help me out as I am really depressed over the fact that it worked once but no longer. Thanks a million. Cheers, brian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Wierd Netscape Mailto problems
Hello brian, On Sat, 18 May 2002 18:00:32 -0400 GMT (19/05/02, 05:00 +0700 GMT), b wrote: b Then apparently I did something to knacker it up. Before that b time, when I clicked on a mailto link in Netscape, the Bat would b launch, and a 'new message' window would be invoked with the b mailto address inserted into the address line. Now, when I click b on a mailto, the Bat launches, but without invoking a message b window (ie: it launches the Bat but doesn't initiate an actual b message). I don't have Netscape on my machine any more, so I canot look up what I think the culprit is: IIRC The Bat! is launched by Netscape with a parameter %1. This parameter seems to have got lost. Check where the path and program name for the application is that Netscape should open when encountering a mailto link (this might be in the registry) and add %1 (without quotes). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Hi, Andrew Henderson wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No associations were changed so it is a relief to know that I don't have to do any digging to get rid of The Bat. One last thing (am I really helping somebody here to get rid of the Bat? ah, well): you might check if the Bat! is currently known to your system as default mail handler/MAPI request recipient. Sorry, I can only tell you how to check this from MS IE, so you have to look through Netscape's settings. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60g under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Markus Gloede wrote: One last thing (am I really helping somebody here to get rid of the Bat? ah, well): you might check if the Bat! is currently known to your system as default mail handler/MAPI request recipient. Sorry, I can only tell you how to check this from MS IE, so you have to look through Netscape's settings. Regards, Markus Thanks Markus but, no, I would never let a program that I was only test driving change something like that!g Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it in the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is there a solution? Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing from Windows control panel produces an error message, is there a list of all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete manual removal? TIA. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Hi Andrew, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:02:39 AM, you wrote: AH I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it in AH the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just AH downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me AH to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is AH there a solution? AH Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing AH from Windows control panel produces an error message, is there a list of AH all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete AH manual removal? TIA. I had the same problem,.No way to export from Netscape and no built in import from Netscape to TB. Unless you save emails individually and then open them as a .eml or similar file in TB... Unless someone else has a way that I could not find. -- Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrew, @23 April 2002, 10:02:39 -0400 (15:02 UK time) Andrew Henderson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it in the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. There's a link to a flat version of the FAQ. You might try at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ_flat.html, which is a flattened out version for non-W3C DOM compliant browsers. Not that this issue is mentioned... I just downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is there a solution? Not AFAIK. This hasn't come up before that I can remember... unless anyone else knows otherwise. You might try a UNIX format export from NS and import from there. Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing from Windows control panel produces an error message, It shouldn't... not that I've tried uninstalling lately g. is there a list of all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete manual removal? TIA. C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.* HKCU\Software\RIT\*.* plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xXVaOeQkq5KdzaARAv/hAJ48DiGtp03sdwUfTMYUY4BhLWH4PQCg0KbE f/4TDFPbVkczyyUA5RtenZk= =V2q4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Hi Andrew, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 6:32:41 AM, you wrote: AH Ok but my understanding was that this was a _feature_ of TB. The import AH wizard does indicate Netscape 6.x as being supported. So, the question AH remains: is there an official word on this issue? The product is of no AH interest to me without a working import - not on a trial basis and AH certainly not for purchase. BTW, my impression from what I've read on AH the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous AH releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to AH break this feature? I am a new user, not a expert by any means. If you give them a little time, I am sure the list veterans may have an answer to your question. I never bothered to ask the list because I had copies of my mail in other clients. Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Ok but my understanding was that this was a _feature_ of TB. The import wizard does indicate Netscape 6.x as being supported. So, the question remains: is there an official word on this issue? The product is of no interest to me without a working import - not on a trial basis and certainly not for purchase. BTW, my impression from what I've read on the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to break this feature? Lynna Lunsford wrote: I had the same problem,.No way to export from Netscape and no built in import from Netscape to TB. Unless you save emails individually and then open them as a .eml or similar file in TB... Unless someone else has a way that I could not find. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Not AFAIK. This hasn't come up before that I can remember... unless anyone else knows otherwise. You might try a UNIX format export from NS and import from there. It was mentioned a couple of times on the tbbeta list with no responses as in this message from April 02: is there anybody out there who succeeded in importing folders/messages from within Netscape v6.2 into TB! As reported from users, import function from within The Bat! (Netscape 6) does not work as expected. Any experience reports are welcome :-) Also mentioned in this message from March 02: Well, the mail import from netscape 6.2.1 does not work. The import mailboxes window lists local folders but doesn't list accounts. To be precise it lists nothing except default and local folders If I press next I get an error popup that states No boxes selected to be converted C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.* HKCU\Software\RIT\*.* plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp. Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the program directory. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrew, @23 April 2002, 11:49:45 -0400 (16:49 UK time) Andrew Henderson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It was mentioned a couple of times on the tbbeta list with no responses as in this message from April 02: snip Also mentioned in this message from March 02: Well, the mail import from netscape 6.2.1 does not work. The import mailboxes window lists local folders but doesn't list accounts. To be precise it lists nothing except default and local folders If I press next I get an error popup that states No boxes selected to be converted As Allie wrote to George at that time chuckle I think your using Netscape is pretty unusual these days.;-) As a result no-one seems to be sharing your problems.. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply but effectively what it means is that not enough noise was made at the time for RIT to have issued a fix for any Netscape import problems. Sorry I can't be more helpful. C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.* HKCU\Software\RIT\*.* plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp. Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the program directory. TB doesn't do anything like that unless you tell it to take over MAPI. Did you? There is a TBMAPI.DLL that may have been installed. Other than that, TB is nicely self-contained. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xYgqOeQkq5KdzaARAqMnAJ93LF0ts96ZONgqk22J49XqbxLyKACfQflK rPVT/bLK1uJu4NkYRIJtjj8= =OJ2P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 9:02:39 AM, Andrew scribbled: AH I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it in AH the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just AH downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me AH to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is AH there a solution? The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Michael Disabato wrote: The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that. Mike Thanks Michael. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Peter Palmreuther wrote: Does this in any manner help and work? No. There is nothing except in the program directory. As Marck already mentioned: maybe file type associations you told The Bat! to fetch for itself, but files are _exclusively_ stored in installation directory. No associations were changed so it is a relief to know that I don't have to do any digging to get rid of The Bat. BTW: It would be great if your Mozilla could be told to use a so called signature delimiter '-- ' (dashdashspaceenter and if you could trim your quotes to the necessary to make it easier to read and follow you mails. Whatever. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Hello Andrew, On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 5:49:45 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): [Netscape-import-problem] I don't have Netscape v6 installed nor do I have tested to import from v4.x, but v.4 stores mails in MBOX formatted files. Have you tried to import an 'UNIX MBOX file' and locate the open dialog on one of your Netscape mailbox files? Does this in any manner help and work? C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.* HKCU\Software\RIT\*.* plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp. AH Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything AH that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the AH program directory. There is nothing except in the program directory. As Marck already mentioned: maybe file type associations you told The Bat! to fetch for itself, but files are _exclusively_ stored in installation directory. BTW: It would be great if your Mozilla could be told to use a so called signature delimiter '-- ' (dashdashspaceenter and if you could trim your quotes to the necessary to make it easier to read and follow you mails. Thx -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Hello Andrew! On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 4:32:41 PM you wrote: BTW, my impression from what I've read on the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to break this feature? I don't know about this particular feature, but in the course of events ... sorry, should be bug fixing ... it could be that other features break. In your case I'd think you won't have to export every message on its own. There must be a way to at least export every message in one go to a text file, which could be imported as a UNIX mailbox (change the extension to MBX). -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60d on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Todo, pero con manera (Everything, but with civility.). Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, at 17:13:28 +0100 Marck wrote:
MDP As Allie wrote to George at that time chuckle I think your using
MDP Netscape is pretty unusual these days.;-) As a result no-one seems to
MDP be sharing your problems.. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply but
MDP effectively what it means is that not enough noise was made at the
MDP time for RIT to have issued a fix for any Netscape import problems.
Hmm. Netscape (especially v6.x-) is not pretty unusual these days at
all. :-) That what is unusual, IMHO, is that BAT's versions 1.6x+ have
loads of bugs and omissions. First time when I saw this I thought that
programming team is changed.
Else, with Bat's versions prior to 1.6x importing from NC (etc) works
excellently. I don't know for NC versions 6.x since I don't use
bloated software. Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x
Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new
version, if he'd like it.
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Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Mandara wrote: Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new version, if he'd like it. Mandara (v1.53d) Yes, thanks, I had thought of that but the only version that I could find was 1.53 and it doesn't import from Netscape 6.2.1 - at least not through the wizard and I'm not looking to jump through hoops here. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Henderson [AH] wrote: ... The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that. AH Thanks Michael. If you haven't found one just write to me and I can send it to you. - -- - -=Allie C Martin=-[List Moderator] PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ ®TB! v1.60g on Windows XP 5.1.2600 `´ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8xeUEV8nrYCsHF+IRAoxOAKCTGa/wIGkwgo7bDYTbaEx6I8dKtgCgp/ig vzzLXBobqyXiu4HOVN/ix60= =iHoM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscape 6 automation
Hi folks, can someone help me to make Netscape6 open The Bat automatically when I click mailto link? Thanks a lot Best Regards, Alex -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Netscape 6 automation
This is an educated guess of an answer Netscape is built around an open source, widely collaborated-upon program called Mozilla, to which Nescape allocates substantial staff hours. I haven't used Netscape 6.x, but I have used the Mozilla browser and mail/newsreader programs on which Netscape 6.1 and 6.2 are based. In Mozilla, what you are trying to do cannot be done. The only way to use the Mozilla--and presumably the Netscape--browser but to have a mailto: link invoke The Bat! is to completely uninstall the browser and related program modules, then reinstall on a custom install. Do not install the Netscape mail/newsreader module. After installation, be sure that TB! is the default mail program (in Win98, Start/Settings/Control Panel/Internet Options/Programs), and then be sure that TB!'s support for Simple MAPI is installed (somewhere in the TB! configuration options). At that point, clicking on a mailto: link in Netscape should give you TB! (Note that you can set which TB! account to respond to a mailto: call, or you can leave it unselected and select on the fly.) HTH JN Alexandre Dobrinov wrote on Sunday, January 13, 2002: Hi folks, can someone help me to make Netscape6 open The Bat automatically when I click mailto link? Thanks a lot -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Netscape 6 automation
Thanks a lot Joseph, i ll try to reinstall as explained. One thing though... i could manage to configure NS 4.x to invoke TB, but not NS6.x. Why is that and whats the basic difference? Thanks again -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fax (USA) : +1-786-5518285 fax (UK) : +44-870-1335667 tel/fax (Germany) : +49-89-1488209072 GSM: +359-87-526638 - This is an educated guess of an answer Netscape is built around an open source, widely collaborated-upon program called Mozilla, to which Nescape allocates substantial staff hours. I haven't used Netscape 6.x, but I have used the Mozilla browser and mail/newsreader programs on which Netscape 6.1 and 6.2 are based. In Mozilla, what you are trying to do cannot be done. The only way to use the Mozilla--and presumably the Netscape--browser but to have a mailto: link invoke The Bat! is to completely uninstall the browser and related program modules, then reinstall on a custom install. Do not install the Netscape mail/newsreader module. After installation, be sure that TB! is the default mail program (in Win98, Start/Settings/Control Panel/Internet Options/Programs), and then be sure that TB!'s support for Simple MAPI is installed (somewhere in the TB! configuration options). At that point, clicking on a mailto: link in Netscape should give you TB! (Note that you can set which TB! account to respond to a mailto: call, or you can leave it unselected and select on the fly.) HTH JN Alexandre Dobrinov wrote on Sunday, January 13, 2002: Hi folks, can someone help me to make Netscape6 open The Bat automatically when I click mailto link? Thanks a lot -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Netscape 6 automation
NS 4.x is coded very differently from 6.x in many respects. (Actually, 6.0 is significantly different from 6.1, too.) The best place to learn the differences, if you're interested, is one of the Netscape or Mozilla public newsgroups. JN Alexandre Dobrinov wrote on Sunday, January 13, 2002: Thanks a lot Joseph, i ll try to reinstall as explained. One thing though... i could manage to configure NS 4.x to invoke TB, but not NS6.x. Why is that and whats the basic difference? Thanks again -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat, Web2Pop and Netscape
Anyone using this combination? what is the correct setup for this. Although netscape through a brower shows I have 13 new messages The Bat/Web2Pop shows me 0. Thanks -- Best regards, Igbar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
OT: HTML (was: Netscape Webmail)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joel! On 4 Dec 2001 at 18:33:10 you wrote: Hi Can someone tell me how to configure The Bat to work with Netscape webmail. The Bat has settings for IMAP4 which Netscape uses. I've used the settings on Netscape 6.2 with The Bat but I keep getting a message unable to connect to mail server. Thanks! Joel E. Cortez Anybody any questions? The message cited showed exactly my point, made some days ago. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Ich bin immer beleidigt, wenn andere nichts von mir erwarten. (D.A. Wien) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPAz/bPTo1oA8g8dLEQJ1CwCfUt5OJQP/RiDolCwnKoj+lIjS3JgAoLcD Zc79d4xsWjm4fETdv6PleULj =DXfh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Netscape Webmail
I remember that someone said we *need* HTML e-mails... ha! -- Roberto Machorro Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 9:33:10 AM, you wrote: JEC Hi JEC Can someone tell me how to configure The Bat to work with Netscape webmail. The Bat has settings for IMAP4 which Netscape uses. I've used the settings on Netscape 6.2 with The Bat but I JEC keep getting a message unable to connect to mail server. Thanks! JEC Joel E. Cortez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Netscape Webmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joel, On 04 December 2001 at 11:33:10 [GMT-0600] (which was 17:33 where I live) Joel E. Cortez wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: JEC Hi Can someone tell me how to configure The Bat to work with JEC Netscape webmail. The Bat has settings for IMAP4 which JEC Netscape uses. I've used the settings on Netscape 6.2 with The JEC Bat but I keep getting a message unable to connect to mail JEC server. Thanks! Joel E. Cortez moderator Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. /moderator As to your question ... it is hard to say what the problem may be. The Bat uses the standard IMAP4 port settings (143). It is up to you to have entered the server address and authentication data correctly. If you have then it should all work as it is supposed to. You say Web mail. That implies a web interface, not an IMAP interface. The IMAP interface in such a setup is usually all server side and is accessed using a web browser. If you're certain you can access it from a remote IMAP4 client then TB will be able to do so, although not necessarily be able to reflect and use the IMAP remote folder layout. You may need to to to someone at Netscape for more clarification. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8DVLnOeQkq5KdzaARAuLsAKCrt5zK4+h3hwe4kWVPM1KDwXLPHACfbxp9 VqJTbaMPsJu0bPF5ClwDYk4= =uMcI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape
Hello Carl. At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape': Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to Carl importing these into TB? If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your Yahoo! email via The Bat! If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE. In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct, organization (optional). When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp pop info, include the following: SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as simple as that. At least it is for me. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54/10/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape
Hi Jan, JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm. Cheers Gerard That place is so crowded no one ever goes there anymore. - Yogi Berra - -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape
Hello Gerard. At 8:52 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape': JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is Gerard I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm. Yes, that works, too. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54/10/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape
Hello Jan,Gerard,and List: Please excuse this piecing together,but I currently receive these notes in the Digest format.. I suppose the original title of my note was confusing or not understood. We do have Yahoo accounts that were already setup some time ago to be received in our Netscape communicator package as POP mail. So there is currently a Large amount of yahoo mail that has previously been received via Netscape as pop mail,and is Residing within Netscape. We would like to tranfer These e-mails into TB. As I originally wrote When the Import Wizard is used it recognizes our regular isp (@home) mail accounts in Netscape,but does Not seem to do the same with the yahoo pop accounts,((within Netscape)) as they are not subsequently listed for importing. I hope this is more clear and that someone can help. Thanks, Carl Msg: #23 in digest Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:18:21 -0500 From: Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape Hello Carl. At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape': Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to Carl importing these into TB? If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your Yahoo! email via The Bat! If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE. In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct, organization (optional). When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp pop info, include the following: SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as simple as that. At least it is for me. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54/10/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 Msg: #26 in digest Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:52:35 +0100 From: Gerard de Vries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape Hi Jan, JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm. Cheers Gerard _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape
I think our friend here has already downloaded the e-mail from his Yahoo! accounts using Netscape Mail and wants to import the downloaded mails to the TB Roberto -- Roberto Machorro Wednesday, November 28, 2001, 5:18:21 AM, you wrote: JR Hello Carl. JR At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the JR following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail JR from Netscape': Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to Carl importing these into TB? JR If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your JR Yahoo! email via The Bat! JR If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE. JR In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or JR whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct, JR organization (optional). JR When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp pop JR info, include the following: JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is JR Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com JR Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as JR simple as that. At least it is for me. JR HTH _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: netscape 6.2
Saturday, November 24, 2001, 2:10:04 PM, you wrote: CmB Dear listar, CmB I just install N6.2 ... and it looks much better then the prev. CmB verions ( I mean 6xx) : CmB the only one problem I have with it - I can't use thebat!153d as CmB email client. CmB I installed N4.79 aswell + nsproto - in 479 it works. but in NN6 - CmB not : CmB I did click in preferences simple MAPI and assosiate.. CmB but it doesn't help. CmB Any help? CmB thank You very much Hi Call, Isn't the email package a separate install option, meaning if you install it it assumes you want to use it? Best regards, Gerard -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: netscape 6.2
- Original Message - From: Gerard de Vries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Call me Babo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2001 8:07 am Subject: Re: netscape 6.2 Saturday, November 24, 2001, 2:10:04 PM, you wrote: CmB Dear listar, CmB I just install N6.2 ... and it looks much better then the prev. CmB verions ( I mean 6xx) : CmB the only one problem I have with it - I can't use thebat!153d as CmB email client. CmB I installed N4.79 aswell + nsproto - in 479 it works. but in NN6 - CmB not : CmB I did click in preferences simple MAPI and assosiate.. CmB but it doesn't help. CmB Any help? CmB thank You very much Hi Call, Isn't the email package a separate install option, meaning if you install it it assumes you want to use it? Best regards, Gerard This appears to be the case with Netscape: however, it is _not_ the case with Mozilla. Unlike Netscape it has a Use Mozilla Mail as the default mail application checkbox in Preferences | Mail Newsgroups. If this is not checked The Bat!, once the options described have been set up from within, remains the default mail package. Moral - uninstall Netscape and install Mozilla. After all, the first is based on (an older version of) the second ... Alastair _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Import from Netscape 6?
Hello Dwight, On 20/10/2001, at 00:32, you wrote about Import from Netscape 6?: DAC If one is going to have to reconstruct all the filters again anyhow, DAC this might be the opportunity to get them all right in one sitting, by DAC filtering all the imported messages. Yes and no :-) It will be sufficent to make the filters one by one, when the mail come (right-clic and so on) -- Regards Cyril ... God forgive, I don't! www.malka.com - www.malkadesign.com ICQ: 3294413 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import from Netscape 6?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, October 19, 2001 at 7:33:01 PM , Cyril MALKA wrote about Import from Netscape 6?: Is it correct understood, that it is not possible to import message base from Netscape 6? Is it something you'll implement? Hmm, I've had a look at NS 6.x. The mailer doesn't look that changed to me, actually, it has the same crappy look it used to have...anyway, have you tried importing it already ? Maybe it works. Tools-Import-Mailobox Import Wizard... G'luck! - -- Eggheads unite! You have nothing to lose but your yolks. - Adlai Stevenson __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iD8DBQE70GRj8WBGNj3ut+0RAszYAJ0RqYczEIl8XjMaAsQGTHhugCEmZgCgl9nh RV9d4Y4es2nnBoE3OvuF5RI= =9eU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import from Netscape 6?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Silviu, You wrote on 10/19/2001, 7:35 PM: Silviu Hmm, I've had a look at NS 6.x. The mailer doesn't look that Silviu changed to me, actually, it has the same crappy look it used to Silviu have... Maybe, but it has unicode support... A big plus IMHO. (where are you, TB2? :) - -- Cheers, SyP There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people asking questions. (Where do you want to go today?) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 5 iQA/AwUBO9BKINkgnrcJiuwTEQIW3ACgruoQ0yaGmt3VnNwl3921TrPbDc0AoL5a ITs4yhFIkSAW/WS2Mc65cc9U =oi8l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Import from Netscape 6?
Hello Silviu, On 19/10/2001, at 19:35, you wrote about Import from Netscape 6?: SC Hmm, I've had a look at NS 6.x. The mailer doesn't look that SC changed to me, actually, it has the same crappy look it used to SC have...anyway, have you tried importing it already ? Nope... I didn't used Netscape as a mailer since I found out, there was Eudora (3.something at the time) and never used any of it since The Bat :-) SC Maybe it works. Tools-Import-Mailobox Import Wizard... SC G'luck! Sorry... It is one of our users actually... And he can't import from Netscape 6. I have asked him to import from Unix, and it is possible, but then all the mails (regardless of in which eventual folder they were) are putted in one bunch... Which isn't quite optimal... :-) -- Regards Cyril ... To err i human, to forgive is not compagny policie www.malka.com - www.malkadesign.com ICQ: 3294413 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import from Netscape 6?
On Friday, October 19, 2001, 5:17:11 PM, Cyril MALKA wrote: It is one of our users actually... And he can't import from Netscape 6. I have asked him to import from Unix, and it is possible, but then all the mails (regardless of in which eventual folder they were) are putted in one bunch... Which isn't quite optimal... :-) If one is going to have to reconstruct all the filters again anyhow, this might be the opportunity to get them all right in one sitting, by filtering all the imported messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54/10 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: weird import from Netscape 4.7x...and more!
Daniel, DH could it be (and I'm guessing) that the folder from Netscape wasn't DH compressed? Eg, has it restored all your deleted messages as well? DH I really have no idea, but it might be worth looking into. That crossed my mind as well, but my manager seems pretty resolute that she doesn't need to have the old Netscape mail imported...still, as an obsessive/compulsive type, I can't help but think about it :) Maybe I'll try that on my own system using her imported mail in a dummy folder. MC However, and I'm not sure if this has been reported yet, but following MC a URL in Netscape 6.1 brings up two identical browser windows instead MC of one. Anyone else notice this? DH I had the same problem with mozilla... - but i went back to IE DH anyway... work still needs to be done IMO on that browser.. - hence DH that solved my 'double window' problem :) DH I wasn't sure if it was the way I had installed mozilla and file DH associations or if it was TB... but I didn't bother looking into it... Actually, if we were talking about Netscape 6/6.01/6.1pr, I'd agree with you, but 6.1 is pretty stable (aside from some standards compliance issues...another story/debate). Not a big IE fan either. Oh well...hopefully the folks at Bat will figure something out. Thanks for the input, Matt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It's a cookbook!! -The Twilight Zone -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
weird import from Netscape 4.7x
Hey, I installed The Bat on my office manager's system and imported her Netscape 4.7x mail. I was shocked to find that her new inbox now has over 4000 messages! Switching back to Netscape, the original inbox only has 1200 (still high...I'll discipline her later). I've killed Dupes in The Bat, but that hasn't even made a mark on it. Anything I should know about? Matt Cahill -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: weird import from Netscape 4.7x
Hello Matt, 14. avgust 2001, 23:47:36, you wrote: I installed The Bat on my office manager's system and imported her Netscape 4.7x mail. I was shocked to find that her new inbox now has over 4000 messages! Switching back to Netscape, the original inbox only has 1200 (still high...I'll discipline her later). I've killed Dupes in The Bat, but that hasn't even made a mark on it. Did you check the message subjects? If there are so many messages, there should be many duplicate subjects... What do you mean by disciplining? I keep all my mail for the last 2.5 years, that's 11232 messages at the moment. BTW: *please* don't start new thread by replying to some message and simply changing the subject. Some of us are sorting by references, and that put your message to the "Confirm sending bug?" thread, after "POP3 sending of email" message, which was reply, too. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10.1998. ] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: weird import from Netscape 4.7x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:47:36 -0400GMT (which was 23:47 +0200GMT where I live), Matt Cahill replied to Gary on TBUDL about: POP3 Sending of email MC I installed The Bat on my office manager's system and imported her MC Netscape 4.7x mail. MC ... MC I'll discipline her later) That sounds interesting. But it's in the wrong thread. You'd better start with a new message rather than replying to something you aren't actually replying to. It shouldn't be too hard to copy and paste the address manually... ;-) The Bat! provides a very fine system to sort threads by reference number. So, no matter what you alter or delete after having hit the reply button, the reference number will still be the same. And it will be sorted accordingly in my folders. You might miss some readers, because they're not interested in the thread you replied to... Cheers Peter -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication :o) Comment: Key available at http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Comment: Key-ID:0xE10774CE Comment: Have a lot of fun! :-) iQA/AwUBO3mAXgM2UgbhB3TOEQKc7QCfY8yr3iG27lwyyrTa07AdzKy2pTYAoLz5 LYMh+crq7q/aXztXF8FKm936 =dtpN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
weird import from Netscape 4.7x...and more!
Sorry about the reply fiasco folks. Didn't realize that posting entailed pasting. I couldn't figure out why the imported Netscape mail doubled the inbox by 2800 messages. We chose to leave it in Netscape and start fresh with The Bat. Doing anything with that amount of mail just took too long (ie moving, re-importing, deleting). However, and I'm not sure if this has been reported yet, but following a URL in Netscape 6.1 brings up two identical browser windows instead of one. Anyone else notice this? Matt Cahill I installed The Bat on my office manager's system and imported her Netscape 4.7x mail. I was shocked to find that her new inbox now has over 4000 messages! Switching back to Netscape, the original inbox only has 1200. I've killed Dupes in The Bat, but that hasn't even made a mark on it. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
