Re[3]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hello Mike, Sunday, March 23, 2003, 3:16:24 AM, you wrote: DC There is exactly one feature that I can think of that ZA has that I DC wish Outpost did The little network activity display when it's in DC the system tray. MA LMAO! Yes, I think I'd probably agree ;-) I agree, it's useful to see what's happening from time to time. I've used Net Activity Diagram (http://www.onlythebestfreeware.com/program.asp?program_id=139) in the past. However, I now run GKrellM (http://bill.nalens.com/download_view.php?category-1) on my XP and Linux box. HTH, M -- Regards, Martin Webster http://www.martinwebster.info/ All outgoing mail checked for viruses with Sophos Anti-Virus Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Martin, Sunday, March 23, 2003, 10:18:35 AM, you wrote: MW I agree, it's useful to see what's happening from time to time. MW I've used Net Activity Diagram MW (http://www.onlythebestfreeware.com/program.asp?program_id=139) in MW the past. However, I now run GKrellM MW (http://bill.nalens.com/download_view.php?category-1) on my XP and MW Linux box. Thanks, that's very helpful ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hello Mike, Saturday, March 22, 2003, 5:13:45 AM, you wrote: MA While that's true to an extent I can go by the number of reported MA problems with ZA against those with Outpost i.e. Lots to very few MA respectively. ;-) ZDNet Downloads for: Free Version Pro Version ZoneAlarm 16,808,637 109,009 OutPost 39,035 1,860 This doesn't mean Outpost is inferior to ZA; but, with these numbers in mind, it is not abnormal that it will be easier to find someone with a ZA-related problem than someone with an Outpost-related problem. -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Mark, Saturday, March 22, 2003, 1:14:27 PM, you wrote: MP ZDNet Downloads for: MP Free Version Pro Version MP ZoneAlarm 16,808,637 109,009 MP OutPost 39,035 1,860 MP This doesn't mean Outpost is inferior to ZA; but, with these numbers in MP mind, it is not abnormal that it will be easier to find someone with a MP ZA-related problem than someone with an Outpost-related problem. Actually it means even less as most Outpost downloads are from their sites round the world :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with large file attachments?
On Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 01:50:55GMT + (which was 8:50 PM where I live) Mike Alexander wrote and made these points on the subject of Problem with large file attachments?: MA Saturday, March 22, 2003, 1:14:27 PM, you wrote: MP ZDNet Downloads for: MP Free Version Pro Version MP ZoneAlarm 16,808,637 109,009 MP OutPost 39,035 1,860 MP This doesn't mean Outpost is inferior to ZA; but, with these numbers in MP mind, it is not abnormal that it will be easier to find someone with a MP ZA-related problem than someone with an Outpost-related problem. MA Actually it means even less as most Outpost downloads are from their MA sites round the world :) There is exactly one feature that I can think of that ZA has that I wish Outpost did The little network activity display when it's in the system tray. -- Best regards, David Member of E-mailaholics International PGP Key at http://search.keyserver.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCC7E7664 Contains no added salt, MSG, or artificial intelligence. Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi David, Sunday, March 23, 2003, 2:38:47 AM, you wrote: MA Actually it means even less as most Outpost downloads are from their MA sites round the world :) DC There is exactly one feature that I can think of that ZA has that I DC wish Outpost did The little network activity display when it's in DC the system tray. LMAO! Yes, I think I'd probably agree ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hello Peter, Friday, March 21, 2003, 7:47:49 AM, you wrote: PP Hello Mike, PP On Friday, March 21, 2003 at 3:21:52 AM you [MA]wrote (at least in PP part): BH OK, I use AVG to scan incoming mail so that's easy to disable and BH Outpost for the firewall. I think I'll try switching off Outpost to BH start. I have to say that's given me no trouble up to now, I've been BH running it for approx. 6 months. MA I've been using Outpost since last September with no problems using MA firstly Outlook Express, and then TB since November. I suspect that MA *isn't* your problem. PP And people were/are using ZoneAlarm without any problem and still it PP is one on other computers. Unless you've set up Barrys computer, and PP it is in hardware and software (incl. patches, SP, and so on) PP absolutely identical to yours _AND_ you and Barry are using the same PP POP3-server you simply can't state Outpost can't be a problem. Period. PP Barry: give deactivating every possible interfering application a try, PP chances are high the problem is located there. That doesn't mean you PP have to keep them deactivated 'til eternity, maybe the offending PP application can be fixed by some settings, after knowing which one PP it is. Thanks, Peter. Well, I was trying out the 'Whoeasy' plugin on Outpost so I decided to remove it as its evaluation time was almost up. Now then, fingers crossed, everything *seems* back to normal. Mind you, I don't really understand why it should have interfered as it's only a DNS lookup tool? We'll wait and see. -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Barry, On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:42:37 + Barry Higginbottom wrote: Well, I was trying out the 'Whoeasy' plugin on Outpost so I decided to remove it as its evaluation time was almost up. Now then, fingers crossed, everything *seems* back to normal. Mind you, I don't really understand why it should have interfered as it's only a DNS lookup tool? Outpost being only a DNS lookup tool? Might it be I've missed something? Outpost is, to my best knowledge, a so called Firewall (packet filter) ... Are we talking about the same program? We'll wait and see. Hope the best for you :-) -- Pit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Peter, Friday, March 21, 2003, 7:47:49 AM, you wrote: MA I've been using Outpost since last September with no problems using MA firstly Outlook Express, and then TB since November. I suspect that MA *isn't* your problem. PP And people were/are using ZoneAlarm without any problem and still it PP is one on other computers. Unless you've set up Barrys computer, and PP it is in hardware and software (incl. patches, SP, and so on) PP absolutely identical to yours _AND_ you and Barry are using the same PP POP3-server you simply can't state Outpost can't be a problem. Period. While that's true to an extent I can go by the number of reported problems with ZA against those with Outpost i.e. Lots to very few respectively. ;-) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Peter, Friday, March 21, 2003, 4:44:02 PM, you wrote: Well, I was trying out the 'Whoeasy' plugin on Outpost so I decided to remove it as its evaluation time was almost up. Now then, fingers crossed, everything *seems* back to normal. Mind you, I don't really understand why it should have interfered as it's only a DNS lookup tool? PP Outpost being only a DNS lookup tool? Might it be I've missed something? PP Outpost is, to my best knowledge, a so called Firewall (packet PP filter) ... Are we talking about the same program? You didn't read what he said. He said the Whoeasy plug in which *is* only a DNS look up tool :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 2:12:01 PM, you wrote: RO Not sure how honest your ISP is, but it might be the combination RO of their server and TB. It might be a firewall or virusscanner on RO your side (try to disable those). OK, I use AVG to scan incoming mail so that's easy to disable and Outpost for the firewall. I think I'll try switching off Outpost to start. I have to say that's given me no trouble up to now, I've been running it for approx. 6 months. RO It might even be a bad luck spell some voodoo type guy cast on RO your connectivity. Now that I can believe! -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem with large file attachments?
Hi Barry, Thursday, March 20, 2003, 8:39:45 AM, you wrote: BH OK, I use AVG to scan incoming mail so that's easy to disable and BH Outpost for the firewall. I think I'll try switching off Outpost to BH start. I have to say that's given me no trouble up to now, I've been BH running it for approx. 6 months. I've been using Outpost since last September with no problems using firstly Outlook Express, and then TB since November. I suspect that *isn't* your problem. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with large file attachments?
Hello Mike, On Friday, March 21, 2003 at 3:21:52 AM you [MA]wrote (at least in part): BH OK, I use AVG to scan incoming mail so that's easy to disable and BH Outpost for the firewall. I think I'll try switching off Outpost to BH start. I have to say that's given me no trouble up to now, I've been BH running it for approx. 6 months. MA I've been using Outpost since last September with no problems using MA firstly Outlook Express, and then TB since November. I suspect that MA *isn't* your problem. And people were/are using ZoneAlarm without any problem and still it is one on other computers. Unless you've set up Barrys computer, and it is in hardware and software (incl. patches, SP, and so on) absolutely identical to yours _AND_ you and Barry are using the same POP3-server you simply can't state Outpost can't be a problem. Period. Barry: give deactivating every possible interfering application a try, chances are high the problem is located there. That doesn't mean you have to keep them deactivated 'til eternity, maybe the offending application can be fixed by some settings, after knowing which one it is. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3) Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with large file attachments?
Dear TB Users I have a recent problem downloading mail with large file attachments. For instance this morning we have an email on our ISP's server with a 3Mb attachment. If I try to download this with TB at or around 400k the transfer 'stalls' and just sits there. All mails of a 'normal' size download no problem. Is this a TB problem? My ISP tells me there are no problems at their end, but they would wouldn't they. :) I successfully retrieved the file using their webmail service which they tell me uses IMAP. Their answer is that POP is not designed for handling large files. Look forward to seeing your thoughts. -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with large file attachments?
Hallo Barry, On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:48:31 +GMT (19-3-03, 12:48 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BH I have a recent problem downloading mail with large file BH attachments. BH Is this a TB problem? Just downloaded a message with with a 5.5 and a 5.7 MB attachment, went just fine. BH My ISP tells me there are no problems at their end, but they would BH wouldn't they. :) Not sure how honest your ISP is, but it might be the combination of their server and TB. It might be a firewall or virusscanner on your side (try to disable those). It might even be a bad luck spell some voodoo type guy cast on your connectivity. BH I successfully retrieved the file using their webmail service BH which they tell me uses IMAP. Their answer is that POP is not BH designed for handling large files. They're right about pop3 not being designed with large files in mind. But I'm not sure whether the designers of imap had those in mind either. The whole mail system was designed for text only. Just look at my two attachments, together they were 12.2 MB, but the message that had them encoded was 15.8 MB, that's 30% overhead. The most efficient way to transport files is to upload them to your homepage and send your contacts a link that points to the file. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
