Re: IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Luca,
Monday, March 25, 2019, 5:08:26 PM, you wrote:

> When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked "get
> entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to
> have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each and
> every single message?

Right click on account name and select "Manage IMAP Folders".
Then Right click on the folder you want to download messages from and Select 
Download Mode/Own Settings and then set to download entire message.


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Re: Search function

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> How would one go about de-selecting VIEW RFC-822 headers? It's most annoying 
>> the
>> way it is.

M> It is a toggle option. Select View/RFC-822 headers.

Thanks for that Miguel but it seems that NOT SELECTING is the default. When I
choose to see the RFC-822 header information, my preview window suddenly has two
new tabs at the bottom, one named HEADERS and the other named TEXT. Clicking on
the HEADERS tab shows only the header information in the preview pane. I have to
click on TEXT to see the actual message preview.

However, thanks to your superior knowledge in the intricacies of all things TB!,
you have led me to the solution. To wit: ALL of the resulting hits in the search
were all sent as HTML files. Guess what my default browser is. That's right,
Chrome. All of the HTML files contain one or more instances of the string
"google" thereby meeting the search criteria.

So, many thanks Miguel. It would have taken me quite a while to suss this out
without your help.

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Re: Toolbar icon sizes

[Susanne]

Hello MFPA,

Sunday, March 24, 2019, 5:20:34 AM, you wrote:

> I have "toolbar icons" or "menu icons" options, but switching between 
> the two makes no noticeable difference.

That's odd! It's a big difference here. Menu icons are very small.

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Re: Toolbar icon sizes

[Susanne]

Hello Thomas,

Saturday, March 23, 2019, 7:07:52 PM, you wrote:

> No, there are only these two sizes.

Thanks. 

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Re: Toolbar icon sizes

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 23 March 2019 at 4:45:25 PM, in
, Susanne wrote:-


>   is there a way to make the toolbar icons smaller,
> but not super tiny?
>   So far, I've only found the option to use "menu
> icons", which makes them really, really small.  


I have "toolbar icons" or "menu icons" options, but switching between 
the two makes no noticeable difference.


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Re: Search function

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> How would one go about de-selecting VIEW RFC-822 headers? It's most annoying 
> the
> way it is.

It is a toggle option. Select View/RFC-822 headers.

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Re: Toolbar icon sizes

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:45:25 -0700 GMT (23-Mar-19, 23:45 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

>   is there a way to make the toolbar icons smaller, but not super tiny?
>   So far, I've only found the option to use "menu icons", which makes them 
> really, really small.

No, there are only these two sizes.

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Re: Search function

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Friday, March 22, 2019 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> The latest messages from MAU and Paul F. Siebern regarding TB! not being 
>> able to
>> access Gmail after March 31st reminded me that I too had received a message 
>> from
>> Google regarding March 31st. Only my message was to inform me of the 
>> following:
>>
>> This is a reminder that on April 2, 2019 we’re shutting down consumer Google+
>> and will begin deleting content from consumer Google+ accounts. Photos and
>> videos from Google+ in your Album Archive and your Google+ pages will also be
>> deleted.

M> I  also received that one, but it is different. It pertains to Google+
M> which,  as  you  quote,  will  be shutting down. The "March 31st" date
M> mentioned  in this message, is when they suggest you start downloading
M> your content, if you don't want to loose it.

>> However, I had to manually search through several different TRASH folders to
>> find the message. This is because when I tried to use TB!'s search function 
>> to
>> find messages which had the string "google" in it, it always returned many 
>> hits,
>> most of which, if not all, did not contain that string. I used the criteria 
>> "ANY
>> PART" or "TEXT" or "SENDER" assuming that that's where that string would be.

M> I'd  bet  they *did* contain the string, most probably in the headers.
M> Most  of  which are not shown/displayed unless you select View/RFC-822
M> headers. This is so because "ANY PART" means exactly that, any part of
M> the  message (the whole message) even if some part(s) are not normally
M> displayed.

If I set the search criteria to SENDER then I get only those messages where the
sender is actually "google". "ANY PART" returns 98 messages whereas TEXT returns
only 90 messages so that seems to validate what you're saying.

How would one go about de-selecting VIEW RFC-822 headers? It's most annoying the
way it is.

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Re: Upgrade?

[Susanne]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, March 22, 2019, 8:50:24 PM, you wrote:

> You have to download the file manually, close TB!, and then
> double-click on the downloaded file.

> Your mails, your settings, and your licence will stay in place.

Thanks!

One reason I'm thinking of upgrading is that I read you can now resize images
in version 8. It's always bothered me that I couldn't do this.

I'm currently using the new version as a trial, as my license apparently doesn't
carry over to this version, but I can't find how to do the resizing when 
inserting a picture.
Does anyone know how to accomplish this?

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Re: No more Gmail?

[Paul Van Noord]

3/23/2019  8:32 AM

Hi Paul,

On 3/21/2019 Paul F. Siebern wrote:

PFS> Hi TBUDL

PFS> I just got this message from Google Accounts:

PFS>"Although you don’t need to take any action, we wanted to let you know 
that
PFS>the following third-party apps will no longer be able to access some 
data
PFS>in your Google Account, including your Gmail content. This change will 
go
PFS>into effect starting March 31, 2019.

PFS>The Bat!
PFS>
PFS>We are making this change as part of ongoing efforts to make sure your 
data
PFS>is protected and private. These apps haven’t yet complied with our 
updated
PFS>data privacy requirements  
PFS>   
PFS> 
(https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/g-suite/elevating-user-trust-in-our-api-ecosystems)
PFS>announced on October 8, 2018."
PFS>
PFS> So that means I can no longer use my Gmail accounts with The Bat! ?

PFS> Thanks

Or... no longer use Gmail!  

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Re: No more Gmail?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 21 March 2019 at 10:40:35 PM, in
, Paul F. Siebern wrote:-


> I just got this message from Google Accounts:

One of my email accounts is gmail and I have received no such 
notification.


> So that means I can no longer use my Gmail accounts
> with The Bat! ?

Aslius wrote in the TBBETA mailing list [0]:

 "Don't worry, we updated TheBat! access and it will work 
 with GMail after 31 of March." 

   and

 "All existing versions of TheBat! which are work with 
 Gmail for the moment - will work after end of month 
 without any actions from user's site. No need to do any 
 action or update application. TheBat is being reverified 
 by Google."

   So, no reason for panic at the moment! 


[0] Thread starting at 
. 


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Re: Alternate Threading Options?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 20 March 2019 at 6:13:53 PM, in
, Steven P Vallière
wrote:-


> I am hoping and praying that this is some other way for
> TheBat to thread messages that is independent of and
> more reliable than similarity of subject lines.

The standard way of threading is by the References header. 

TB! has nine threading options, seven of which ignore the Subject 
header.



> and I would want to get rid of the external tag and the
> space before (or after) it.

I'm not sure you can edit the Subject within TB! for an incoming or
received message. [0] shows an example of two filters and a batch
command to export the message, edit in a text editor, and import the
message back to TB!. Note it is called "Editing received messages 
without changing the headers" so you might need to adapt it to be able 
to edit the Subject header.

If you want to automatically clean the subject line when you reply to
their messages, you could probably adapt the example at [1] for your needs.

I have not tried any of these myself. The links below are to a Wayback
Machine archived copy because the page because the original page is 
currently unavailable.


[0] 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php#edit_a_received_message
 

[1] 

 

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Re: Upgrade?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:28:06 -0700 GMT (23-Mar-19, 04:28 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

> is there a way to upgrade TB from within the program and have it
> use the license key automatically?

Go to Help / Check for upgrade, and it will direct you to the download
side.

You have to download the file manually, close TB!, and then
double-click on the downloaded file.

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Re: Search function

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> The latest messages from MAU and Paul F. Siebern regarding TB! not being able 
> to
> access Gmail after March 31st reminded me that I too had received a message 
> from
> Google regarding March 31st. Only my message was to inform me of the 
> following:
>
> This is a reminder that on April 2, 2019 we’re shutting down consumer Google+
> and will begin deleting content from consumer Google+ accounts. Photos and
> videos from Google+ in your Album Archive and your Google+ pages will also be
> deleted.

I  also received that one, but it is different. It pertains to Google+
which,  as  you  quote,  will  be shutting down. The "March 31st" date
mentioned  in this message, is when they suggest you start downloading
your content, if you don't want to loose it.

> However, I had to manually search through several different TRASH folders to
> find the message. This is because when I tried to use TB!'s search function to
> find messages which had the string "google" in it, it always returned many 
> hits,
> most of which, if not all, did not contain that string. I used the criteria 
> "ANY
> PART" or "TEXT" or "SENDER" assuming that that's where that string would be.

I'd  bet  they *did* contain the string, most probably in the headers.
Most  of  which are not shown/displayed unless you select View/RFC-822
headers. This is so because "ANY PART" means exactly that, any part of
the  message (the whole message) even if some part(s) are not normally
displayed.

> Although my message from Google did not mention TB!'s permission to fetch mail
> from Google, The March 31st deadline was contained in the message.

As  I said above, they suggest you start saving/downloading G+ content
*before* March 31st.

> That aside, does anyone know why the search function would return so many
> invalid hits? Was I doing it incorrectly?

Explained above. Most probably they were not invalid hits. 

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Re: No more Gmail?

[MAU]

Hello Paul,

> I just got this message from Google Accounts:

Same here, but in Spanish.

> So that means I can no longer use my Gmail accounts with The Bat! ?

Same question. 

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Re: Alternate Threading Options?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Steven,

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:22:13 -0400 GMT (21-Mar-19, 1:22 +0700 GMT),
Steven P Vallière wrote:

> Oops.  I found that I somehow got the threaded view
> setting turned off.

For "somehow", you might want to check the main menu:

View / Display Threads By

> However, I would still like to strip the annoying
> " " from incoming subject lines so that the
> subjects in the threaded view don't become hundreds
> of characters long.

> Is that possible?

Yes, with Regular Expressions. Unfortunately, I am not an expert.

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Re: Alternate Threading Options?

[Steven P Vallière]

Oops.  I found that I somehow got the threaded view
setting turned off.

However, I would still like to strip the annoying
" " from incoming subject lines so that the
subjects in the threaded view don't become hundreds
of characters long.

Is that possible?

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Re: Roguemoticons

[Feli Wilcke]

Am 4. März 2019 02:54:01 MEZ schrieb MFPA 
<2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>:

>Do Roguemoticons no longer work, is it just me, or is there an option
>I may have inadvertently turned off?
... 
>I asked a similar question nearly two years ago [0] and didn't see a
>response. A search for the X-Rogue header on my mailbase shows that
>since my April 2017 query, as well as my messages it has also still
>been included in messages from Greg Strong, Marck Pearlstone, Mark
>Partous, MAU, Peter Hampf, Robin Anson, Volker Ahrendt, and Thomas
>Fernandez. In the previous two years the list also included Stuart
>Cuddy, Rick , Peter Meyns, Jack S. LaRosa, and
>Feli Wilcke. If any of you are reading this, do you still see 
>Roguemoticon images in the header pane?

As the others I haven't seen roguemoticons for a long time. I kept them in my 
templates to look for the reason at a later time. In the meantime I left 
Windows for Ubuntu and run TB! via Wine to keep my archive.

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Re: Roguemoticons

[Maggie Meister]

Hi MFPA,

On Sunday, March 03, 2019 at 8:54:01 PM you wrote:

M> Do Roguemoticons no longer work, is it just me, or is there an option
M> I may have inadvertently turned off?

No, it's not just you. While they really don't work anymore, the
pictures would be so dated they would be more valuable to depict
a time and place of TB! users in history... :-D

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Re: Roguemoticons

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Sunday, March 3, 2019 you wrote:

M> Hi all,


M> Do Roguemoticons no longer work, is it just me, or is there an option
M> I may have inadvertently turned off?

M> I have the X-Rogue header in my outgoing emails but no longer see my
M> Roguemoticon image in the header pane when viewing my messages. I have
M> the rogues.msl file present in my Program Files\The Bat!\Images
M> directory, and also the rogues folder containing the images.

M> I asked a similar question nearly two years ago [0] and didn't see a
M> response. A search for the X-Rogue header on my mailbase shows that
M> since my April 2017 query, as well as my messages it has also still
M> been included in messages from Greg Strong, Marck Pearlstone, Mark
M> Partous, MAU, Peter Hampf, Robin Anson, Volker Ahrendt, and Thomas
M> Fernandez. In the previous two years the list also included Stuart
M> Cuddy, Rick , Peter Meyns, Jack S. LaRosa, and
M> Feli Wilcke. If any of you are reading this, do you still see 
M> Roguemoticon images in the header pane?

M> [0] 
M> https://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg103567.html 


To answer your last question, nope. I haven't seen a Rougemoticon in several
years.

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Re: Roguemoticons

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 01:54:01 + GMT (04-Mar-19, 08:54 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> Hi all,


> Do Roguemoticons no longer work, is it just me, or is there an option
> I may have inadvertently turned off?

> I have the X-Rogue header in my outgoing emails but no longer see my
> Roguemoticon image in the header pane when viewing my messages. I have
> the rogues.msl file present in my Program Files\The Bat!\Images
> directory, and also the rogues folder containing the images.

> I asked a similar question nearly two years ago [0] and didn't see a
> response. A search for the X-Rogue header on my mailbase shows that
> since my April 2017 query, as well as my messages it has also still
> been included in messages from Greg Strong, Marck Pearlstone, Mark
> Partous, MAU, Peter Hampf, Robin Anson, Volker Ahrendt, and Thomas
> Fernandez. In the previous two years the list also included Stuart
> Cuddy, Rick , Peter Meyns, Jack S. LaRosa, and
> Feli Wilcke. If any of you are reading this, do you still see 
> Roguemoticon images in the header pane?

> [0] 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg103567.html 

I haven't seen Roguemoticons for years. I think this feature was
dicontinued some time ago.

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Re: Can macros be used to create a unique filename?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 26 February 2019 at 5:19:16 AM, in
, Ian A. White wrote:-


> My question is if the date macro can be used to
> automatically create 
> this date tagged backup file? If so (and hoping), any
> tips?

I don't know, but if not you could try using the %date% environment variable in 
your filename.


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Re: Reset Gmail

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 2 February 2019 at 3:56:04 PM, in
, Richard L de S Clauson
wrote:-

> I'd not heard of the "recent:" prefix before, and
> haven't Googled about it,
> but I suspect, based on some of the other replies,
> that it may be an IMAP4
> feature.

As far as I can see, it's a gmail-specific and POP-specific feature. 

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Re: Reset Gmail

[Richard L de S Clauson]

Hi Richard,

Just catching up with emails in this folder, hence the very late response.

You have set up the GMail account in TB! as a POP3 account (not an IMAP4 
account).  This means that as TB! has not messages already from this mail 
server it will go and download everything in the InBox from start to end, 
and that is exactly what you are reporting TB! to be doing.

NOTE:  Be aware that TB!, using its default settings, can then possibly 
delete all messages from the mail server (GMail in this case) older than 30 
days!!!

I'd not heard of the "recent:" prefix before, and haven't Googled about it, 
but I suspect, based on some of the other replies, that it may be an IMAP4 
feature.

Hope that helps?

Regards,
Richard L de S Clauson

Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41:49 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Bat People,
>
>   I set-up a new Gmail POP3 account in TB. The Gmail account itself goes
> back to 2013 and contains thousands of messages. When I ask TB to download
> new messages it downloads messages going back to 2013 in batches of 450-500.
>   
>  Is there a way to reset something so TB will only download current new
> messages? Or, do I have to keep on downloading 450-500 at a time until 
> everything is current?
>  
>  Thanks.
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Re: Reset Gmail

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

> Using The Bat! v8.7 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 10.0 Build 17134  
>
>
> 
> Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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¿¿?? ;-)

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Re: Reset Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 15:25:50 -0500 GMT (09-Jan-19, 3:25 +0700 GMT),
Richard Newman wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

> Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:37:24 PM, you wrote:
TF>> Try this: Account / Dispatcher / New messages only
> Thanks for your detailed instructions and the effort you put into send the 
> instructions.

> The technique didn't work for "New messages only"; it brought down
> 400-500 messages for from 2014. Even if I had TB download "All
> Messages" it brought down a newer 400-500 messages from 2014. 

> So I went into the original GMail account and archived all messages
> earlier than yesterday. Now the downloading for that account is only
> downloading recent messages as I would expect it to.

> Once again, thanks for your input.

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Re: Reset Gmail

[Richard Newman]

Hello Thomas,

Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:37:24 PM, you wrote:
TF> Try this: Account / Dispatcher / New messages only
Thanks for your detailed instructions and the effort you put into send the 
instructions. 

The technique didn't work for "New messages only"; it brought down 400-500 
messages for from 2014. Even if I had TB download "All Messages" it brought 
down a newer 400-500 messages from 2014. 

So I went into the original GMail account and archived all messages earlier 
than yesterday. Now the downloading for that account is only downloading recent 
messages as I would expect it to.

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Re: Reset Gmail

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 7 January 2019 at 8:56:24 PM, in
, Richard Newman wrote:-



> I put "recent:" back, closed down TB and rebooted my
> machine. I
> downloaded another batch and got another 500ish circa
> 2014 emails.  

Strange. It works for my old gmail account that I rarely use. 
Previously fetched emails last May. Just fetched mails and the created 
dates range from 09/12/2018 to today.

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Re: Reset Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 15:56:24 -0500 GMT (08-Jan-19, 3:56 +0700 GMT),
Richard Newman wrote:

> Hello MFPA,

> Monday, January 7, 2019, 2:04:28 PM, you wrote:
M>> At Account | Properties | Transport, in the "Receive Mail" part of the
M>> tab, prefix your gmail username or email address with "recent:" (no
> Thanks. That didn't work.

> I had "recent:" there already. I took it out. Closed down TB and
> rebooted my machine. Went into TB and downloaded another batch
> (without the "recent:") and got another 500ish circa 2014 emails.

> I put "recent:" back, closed down TB and rebooted my machine. I
> downloaded another batch and got another 500ish circa 2014 emails.

I think "recent:" only means that the client (TB! in this case) should
download mails that have already been viewed by other clients. So, I
am surprised that all the old mails were being downloaded when you
took it out... Google works in mysterious ways.

Try this: Account / Dispatcher / New messages only

TB! will download all headers of mails it would download; download
would start if you hit that botton on the top left. However, don't do
that. You have four columns (Read, Receive, Delete, Open), and they
can be toggled with crtl-1, crtl-2 etc.

Leave the tickmark at Read for all messages but hit crtl-2 to clear
the tickmark from Receive. The effect is that TB! will mark all
messages as Read, so it won't download them again next time, but it
won't actually download any messages.

You can go to the bottom and manually click and add the tickmark again
on those messages that you do want to receive now. Only those will be
downloaded.

Now, hit that down-arrow on the top-left corner.

This is how it works with "normal" POP accounts. It should work with
Gmail, but who knows what other "user-friendly" unintuitive ideas
Google has come up with.

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Re: Unknown CA Certificate

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Monday, January 7, 2019 you wrote:

JS> On Monday, January 7, 2019, 17:42:50, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?

JS> Try switching from The Bat's internal implementation to Microsoft
JS> CryptoAPI - that way TB will use Windows certificate store, which gets
JS> regular updates instead of relying on it's own (which might be
JS> out-of-date, especially if you have an older version of TB).

JS> You can switch that in Options -> S/MIME and TLS…

Egads! So simple even I was able to follow it.

Thank you Jernej, that worked perfectly.

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Re: Reset Gmail

[Richard Newman]

Hello MFPA,

Monday, January 7, 2019, 2:04:28 PM, you wrote:
M> At Account | Properties | Transport, in the "Receive Mail" part of the
M> tab, prefix your gmail username or email address with "recent:" (no
Thanks. That didn't work.

I had "recent:" there already. I took it out. Closed down TB and
rebooted my machine. Went into TB and downloaded another batch
(without the "recent:") and got another 500ish circa 2014 emails.

I put "recent:" back, closed down TB and rebooted my machine. I
downloaded another batch and got another 500ish circa 2014 emails.

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Re: Reset Gmail

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 7 January 2019 at 6:41:49 PM, in
, Richard Newman wrote:-



>  Is there a way to reset something so TB will only
> download current
> new messages? Or, do I have to keep on downloading
> 450-500 at a time until everything is current?

At Account | Properties | Transport, in the "Receive Mail" part of the
tab, prefix your gmail username or email address with "recent:" (no
quotes and no spaces). Then you only get the last 30 days or so of
emails.

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Re: Unknown CA Certificate

[Jernej Simončič]

On Monday, January 7, 2019, 17:42:50, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

> Anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?

Try switching from The Bat's internal implementation to Microsoft
CryptoAPI - that way TB will use Windows certificate store, which gets
regular updates instead of relying on it's own (which might be
out-of-date, especially if you have an older version of TB).

You can switch that in Options -> S/MIME and TLS…

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Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, January 4, 2019, 17:05:55, Mike Greenbaum wrote:

> I'm not sure I have the correct term, but the preview pane, the
> part of the main screen which shows me a preview of the message
> below my list of emails, has disappeared. I have no idea how to get
> it back. I did a search for Preview Pane, but that gave me nothing.

Try Workspace -> Message Auto View (Ctrl+Shift+E).

> Also, my main menu has disappeared. This is the menu which has
> File, Edit, etc up at the top. Again, I don't know what I did to
> cause it to disappear, but can anyone suggest a way to get it back?

That's a harder one - I've got no idea how to make the menubar
disappear.

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Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised

[Mike Greenbaum]

Thanks very much for the suggestions.

Really appreciated.


Mike
> Hello Mike,

> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:50:31 -0700 GMT (05-Jan-19, 5:50 +0700 GMT),
> Mike Greenbaum wrote:

>> MAU,

>> Thanks for your response.

>>> Hello Mike,

 However,  I  still  cannot  figure out how to restore the toolbar or
 main menu which contains File, Edit, etc.

>>> If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace
>>> and Message auto-view?

>> I guess I was assuming that The Bat! had a typical menu which
>> begins with File and then Edit and then other sections. My Messages,
>> Specials, Folder, Account toolbar I do have and didn't lose that
>> one. I guess I was just mistaken about a File, Edit, etc. toolbar.

> I think you have the toolbar with the icons, but you are missing the
> one with the words (i.e. the Main Menu), is that correct?

> Try this:

>>> Anyway,  I  assume you have never done any customisation of your menus
>>> or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on
>>> any  toolbar  and  select  Customise. Once the Customise window opens,
>>> click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner.

> Once you right-click on any toolbar icon and select Customise, you
> have under tab "Menues and Toolbars" the tab "Containers".

> In that tab, you have the container "Main Menu". Here you can create
> it and add the menu items you want to see.

> HTH.




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Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Mike,

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:50:31 -0700 GMT (05-Jan-19, 5:50 +0700 GMT),
Mike Greenbaum wrote:

> MAU,

> Thanks for your response.

>> Hello Mike,

>>> However,  I  still  cannot  figure out how to restore the toolbar or
>>> main menu which contains File, Edit, etc.

>> If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace
>> and Message auto-view?

> I guess I was assuming that The Bat! had a typical menu which
> begins with File and then Edit and then other sections. My Messages,
> Specials, Folder, Account toolbar I do have and didn't lose that
> one. I guess I was just mistaken about a File, Edit, etc. toolbar.

I think you have the toolbar with the icons, but you are missing the
one with the words (i.e. the Main Menu), is that correct?

Try this:

>> Anyway,  I  assume you have never done any customisation of your menus
>> or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on
>> any  toolbar  and  select  Customise. Once the Customise window opens,
>> click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner.

Once you right-click on any toolbar icon and select Customise, you
have under tab "Menues and Toolbars" the tab "Containers".

In that tab, you have the container "Main Menu". Here you can create
it and add the menu items you want to see.

HTH.

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Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised

[Mike Greenbaum]

MAU,

Thanks for your response.

> Hello Mike,

>> Correction  to  my  previous email below: I found what I thought was
>> the  preview pane but apparently is called the Message space and was
>> able  to restore it by clicking in the Workspace menu and turning on
>> Message auto-view. so that problem is solved.

> You  should  also  be  aware  of the possibilities of Workspace/Window
> Split Mode.

>> However,  I  still  cannot  figure out how to restore the toolbar or
>> main menu which contains File, Edit, etc.

> If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace
> and Message auto-view?

I guess I was assuming that The Bat! had a typical menu which begins with File 
and then Edit and then other sections. My Messages, Specials, Folder, Account 
toolbar I do have and didn't lose that one. I guess I was just mistaken about a 
File, Edit, etc. toolbar.

> Anyway,  I  assume you have never done any customisation of your menus
> or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on
> any  toolbar  and  select  Customise. Once the Customise window opens,
> click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner.




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Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared - revised

[MAU]

Hello Mike,

> Correction  to  my  previous email below: I found what I thought was
> the  preview pane but apparently is called the Message space and was
> able  to restore it by clicking in the Workspace menu and turning on
> Message auto-view. so that problem is solved.

You  should  also  be  aware  of the possibilities of Workspace/Window
Split Mode.

> However,  I  still  cannot  figure out how to restore the toolbar or
> main menu which contains File, Edit, etc.

If your Main menu has disappeared, how the heck did click on Workspace
and Message auto-view?

Anyway,  I  assume you have never done any customisation of your menus
or toolbars, have you?. If so, I would suggest that you right click on
any  toolbar  and  select  Customise. Once the Customise window opens,
click on the "Restore to default" button on bottom left corner.


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Re: Meaning?

[Gunivortus Goos]

Hello Jernej,

>> What has gone wrong?

> The file might be corrupted - try using Folder -> Maintenance centre
->> Check integrity/Repair

Thanks!
I already got suggestions in a PM by Alexander Petrari and did so.
It helped, the problem is solved.
(Creating a new folder, copying all messages from the problem folder
to it, removing the message base from the problem folder after closing
TB, and after starting TB again, moving the messages back).

A minute ago I did what you suggested, and there were 2 corrupted
folders found and repaired of which I didn't know.  Would be nice to
have that e.g. in a weekly schedule at closing or starting TB.

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Re: Meaning?

[Jernej Simončič]

On Wednesday, November 28, 2018, 11:38:11, Gunivortus Goos wrote:

> What has gone wrong?

The file might be corrupted - try using Folder -> Maintenance centre
-> Check integrity/Repair

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Re: Changing from POP to Imap

[Tom]

Sunday, October 21, 2018, 10:52:28 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Tom,

> it is no problem to have a POP and an IMAP account for the same address.
> The way to migrate your emails from POP to IMAP is as follows:
> - create the IMAP account
> - move or copy the emails you want to keep to the new account
> - delete the old account or keep it, no problem.
> I have several addresses with POP and IMAP and they are all working.

> Kind regards
> Feli 

Hi Feli,

thanks  for  the  response.  I don't even need to keep the emails as I
have them all on a different pc where I will continue to use POP.
On this new set up I am only interested in using IMAP and thought
there  is  way to change the setting so that in future for these email
accounts IMAP is used instead of Pop. Basically you say I need
to set up the accounts fresh as IMAP accounts - that's fine, just will
take a bit longer.
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Re: Changing from POP to Imap

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Tom,

it is no problem to have a POP and an IMAP account for the same address.
The way to migrate your emails from POP to IMAP is as follows:
- create the IMAP account
- move or copy the emails you want to keep to the new account
- delete the old account or keep it, no problem.
I have several addresses with POP and IMAP and they are all working.

Kind regards
Feli 

Am 21. Oktober 2018 11:19:40 MESZ schrieb Tom :
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>what  is  the procedure to change a pop account to imap?  Seems such a
>basic  issue  but  I  am  afraid  I  can't  work it out. Under Account
>Properties/Transport I can see the settings for servers and ports and
>Pop is shown as existing.  I don't see anything there that would allow
>me to untick this or use IMAP instead.
>Do I need to delete the account and recreate it?
>
>
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>
>
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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi,


>> The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders") there is only
>> one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown in message
>> list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the folders
>> exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.

SC> Is there no Plus sign beside the Inbox?

Yes, there is. But if I uncheck that, the respective folder disappears 
not only from

INBOX.MyFolder

but also from

MyFolder.


There is no listing of "MyFolder" in "Manage folders", only (!) of 
"Inbox.MyFolder".


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Tuesday, October 16, 2018, 4:27:31 AM, you wrote:

> I know that. The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders")
> there is only one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown
> in message list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the
> folders exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.

Is there no Plus sign beside the Inbox?

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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi,


>> That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
>> is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
>> "INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".

SC> Right click on your account name and Select Manage IMAP folders. There you 
can
SC> choose which folders you want to subscribe to. Just un-select the ones you 
don't
SC> want.

I know that. The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders")
there is only one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown
in message list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the
folders exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Monday, October 15, 2018, 10:17:47 AM, you wrote:

> That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
> is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
> "INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".

Right click on your account name and Select Manage IMAP folders. There you can 
choose which folders you want to subscribe to. Just un-select the ones you 
don't 
want.

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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hello Stuart,


>> but it also still shows the old Inbox-structure. Every folder is shown
>> twice, making the complete folder list present as follows:

SC> I don't know if it is by design, but it does happen. If your email is 
showing up
SC> in both folders, then just unsubscribe from the folders you don't want to 
see.

That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
"INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Sunday, October 14, 2018, 2:34:25 PM, you wrote:

> but it also still shows the old Inbox-structure. Every folder is shown
> twice, making the complete folder list present as follows:

I don't know if it is by design, but it does happen. If your email is showing 
up 
in both folders, then just unsubscribe from the folders you don't want to see.

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Re: Upgrade Policy

[Alexander Petrari]

Hello,

You wrote:

PM> Given that TB is current on 8.6.x it looks like v9 is around the corner, so
PM> it seems incredibly bad value if I buy now and I am no longer entitled to
PM> upgrades after v9 is released. I could be misreading the policy.


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Re: Wandering address book

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, September 23, 2018 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:42:08 -0500 GMT (24-Sep-18, 04:12 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Hello TBUDL'ers,

>> My wife's laptop has developed a habit of (apparently) randomly switching
>> address books. This last time, when I looked in
>> C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!, which is where I usually find the
>> address books, the one I was looking for wasn't there. I did a disk search 
>> for
>> .abd and found a folder here: C:\TB!ADBs which contained the address book for
>> which I was searching, and nothing else. Note the transposition of the D and 
>> B.

>> Should this folder even exist? And if so should it be located in the root
>> directory of the C drive? There's a very slight possibly that I might have
>> created this folder years ago but even if so, why would the (in use) address
>> book move into this folder and be replaced in TB! with one from
>> C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!? She's running TB! v6.0.12. Where in 
>> this
>> version are the address books normally kept?

TF> I confirm that my AB is wandering as well. Sometimes I find it in the
TF> Download folder, sometimes in other folders. I have not experienced a
TF> new folder being created, though.

>> Additionally, any ideas as to why TB would change the current address book in
>> what appears to be a random fashion? She has no idea how to change the 
>> default
>> address book and no one else uses this computer except me and that's usually
>> only when something like this happens.

TF> I cannot confirm this, it always looks the same over here.

I find it a little disappointing that yours was the only response (for which I
am grateful BTW) to my query.

Since the original post it has happened again but this time I noticed that the
address book she *was* using was replaced by one named "Personal Address Book".
If you right-click on that name at the top of the address book tree and select
Properties it displays STORED IN FILE:

C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!\TheBat.ABD

I believe that file is the original TB! address book which is of course empty
when TB! is first installed.

When she got her own computer I created separate address book files with her
email addresses only, excluding mine. I named those address books something
along the lines of "June's address" or just simply "June". I'm beginning to
suspect that for reasons unknown, TB! will, on it's own, revert back to the
original address book, TheBat.ABD regardless of which address book she happens
to be using.

With that in mind I used TB's address book window to copy all the addresses from
the self-made address books into the one called Personal Address Book which in
File Manager is called TheBat.ABD. I then deleted the other self-made address
books leaving only TheBat.ABD in C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!\.

With the other address books no longer in existence I'm hoping the next time TB!
decides to teach me a lesson, it won't have non-native address books to deal
with. Time will tell.

Again, thanks for your response.

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Re: Wandering address book

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:42:08 -0500 GMT (24-Sep-18, 04:12 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

> Hello TBUDL'ers,

> My wife's laptop has developed a habit of (apparently) randomly switching
> address books. This last time, when I looked in
> C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!, which is where I usually find the
> address books, the one I was looking for wasn't there. I did a disk search for
> .abd and found a folder here: C:\TB!ADBs which contained the address book for
> which I was searching, and nothing else. Note the transposition of the D and 
> B.

> Should this folder even exist? And if so should it be located in the root
> directory of the C drive? There's a very slight possibly that I might have
> created this folder years ago but even if so, why would the (in use) address
> book move into this folder and be replaced in TB! with one from
> C:\Users\June\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!? She's running TB! v6.0.12. Where in 
> this
> version are the address books normally kept?

I confirm that my AB is wandering as well. Sometimes I find it in the
Download folder, sometimes in other folders. I have not experienced a
new folder being created, though.

> Additionally, any ideas as to why TB would change the current address book in
> what appears to be a random fashion? She has no idea how to change the default
> address book and no one else uses this computer except me and that's usually
> only when something like this happens.

I cannot confirm this, it always looks the same over here.

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Re[3]: Replies to some Yahoo groups question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

I  should  have added that this is the set up in the folder properties
Reply section I am now using for the WSJT group:

%To=""%TO="wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com"

%SUBJ

%DATE
%QUOTES

%CURSOR

-- 

%FROMNAME

















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Re[2]: Replies to some Yahoo groups question

[Chris Wilson]

Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, September 18, 2018,  you wrote:

MAU> Hello Chris,

>> I  go  into  Accounts - Properties- Templates - Reply but can't find a
>> macro to force this. can you help at all please? Thanks :)

MAU> Try  what  I  use  for  example  for  this list. My TBUDL folder Reply
MAU> template starts with:

MAU> ,- [  ]
MAU> | Hello %OFROMFNAME,
MAU> | %To=""%TO="tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com"
MAU> `-

MAU> The  %To=""  clears the To field of anything that may already be there
MAU> (for  example  from  the Reply-To header of the incoming message). The
MAU> second %To=, in your case should be %To="wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com"

Thanks  a  lot, that appears to work just fine. Another issue is a lot
of  posters  to Yahoo groups don't rim their mails and for some reason
TB!  fails  to put the message being replied to in quotes if I use the
%Quotes macro in that group. In fact the reply goes berserk as below.
 I appreciate the fix! All the best.

 


 Hello Jean,


[wsjtgroup] wsjtx v2.0 broken feature ?

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Re: Replies to some Yahoo groups question

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> I  go  into  Accounts - Properties- Templates - Reply but can't find a
> macro to force this. can you help at all please? Thanks :)

Try  what  I  use  for  example  for  this list. My TBUDL folder Reply
template starts with:

,- [  ]
| Hello %OFROMFNAME,
| %To=""%TO="tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com"
`-

The  %To=""  clears the To field of anything that may already be there
(for  example  from  the Reply-To header of the incoming message). The
second %To=, in your case should be %To="wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com"

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Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree

[Sam Brown]

Saturday, September 8, 2018, 8:44:33 AM, MFPA wrote:

M> On Friday 7 September 2018 at 12:53:39 AM, in
M> , Sam Brown wrote:-


>> how can I tell
>> TB! which accounts to display and which to hide from
>> the Account Tree?

M> You can delete the accounts you don't want shown. TB! gives you the
M> choice to leave the account files on disk, so that you could later
M> re-add the account and still have the old messages and folders.

So my "solution" was shut down TB!, move the directories for the accounts I 
didn't want to be loaded into some other directory, then followed Adrian's 
suggestion:

3. Open the Registry editor via "Start -> Run -> regedit -> OK"
 (press Windows+R to invoke "Run") and under
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1".
 
And then started up TB!. I had to go through that quick set up sequence, but 
the accounts I didn't want to load are not loaded and, so far, no duplicate 
accounts. It's not the most ideal approach, but it is effective, so I'll take 
it.

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Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 8 September 2018 at 3:09:49 PM, in
, Adrian Godfrey wrote:-


> That is tricky when they are duplicated in the
> account tree. 

Yes. I was answering the text I quoted, not the other question about 
duplicates. ;-)


> Deleting the account.cfg and doing the registry edits
> fixes it (except
> the account tree is now in a different order) for the
> first time The Bat is started afterwards, but the
> duplicates come back
> some time later and on subsequent restarts of The Bat.

I'm convinced when I had an account that appeared twice, the solution
I used was to add a new account with a similar name, then close down
TB!, then (in Windows Explorer) copy all files from the old account's
folder to the new account's folder, then start TB!, delete the old
account from the account list, and rename the new one to have the same
name.


> But why do the duplicates happen in the first place?

I don't know. It only happened once for me so far with an account. 
I also had it with address books just after moving to a new computer. 



> but is there a way to set either "ignore
> check all accounts"
> and/or  reset  all accounts so that no scheduled
> checking for new mail
> happens  in one place without having to go into the
> properties of each
> account one at a time?

I think you can add scheduled checking for new mail in the Scheduler
tool, with check-boxes to select the accounts. But that would be
independent of the settings in each account's properties.

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Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree

[Adrian Godfrey]

Saturday, September 8, 2018, 2:44:33 PM, you wrote:

> You can delete the accounts you don't want shown

That is tricky when they are duplicated in the account tree. The files
on  the  hard  disk  are  safe,  but assume account X is duplicated. Either all 
of the duplicates for
account  X  get  deleted  or  none of them. But sometimes only the one
highlighted when you select "delete".

Deleting the account.cfg and doing the registry edits fixes it (except
the account tree is now in a different order) for the
first time The Bat is started afterwards, but the duplicates come back
some time later and on subsequent restarts of The Bat.

But why do the duplicates happen in the first place?

I  could try a different PC with Windows 7 Ultimate instead of Windows
10  Pro,  but is there a way to set either "ignore check all accounts"
and/or  reset  all accounts so that no scheduled checking for new mail
happens  in one place without having to go into the properties of each
account one at a time?

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Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 7 September 2018 at 12:53:39 AM, in
, Sam Brown wrote:-


> how can I tell
> TB! which accounts to display and which to hide from
> the Account Tree?

You can delete the accounts you don't want shown. TB! gives you the
choice to leave the account files on disk, so that you could later
re-add the account and still have the old messages and folders.


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Re: Hiding accounts in Account Tree

[Adrian Godfrey]

Friday, September 7, 2018, 1:53:39 AM, you wrote:

> it also has one of my accounts listed four times in the Account
> Tree. All with the same message counts. Is there also a way to fix that?

Ihave  a  similar problem, but it's more than one account (but NOT
all of them) that gets shown multiple times in the account tree.

These  instructions direct from Ritlabs actually  worked to remove the
duplicates,  but  has  the  side effect of changing the order. It also
only seems to be a temporary fix as some accounts have started to be shown
multiple times again.


-cut here.
1. Close The Bat!
2. Open the mail data folder and delete the file AccOrder.CFG
3. Open the Registry editor via "Start -> Run -> regedit -> OK"
 (press Windows+R to invoke "Run") and under
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1".
4. Start The Bat!, select the option "User-defined directory" and
point it to your mail data folder, the
respective accounts will be added to the program.
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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Marck,

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 9:03:01 AM you wrote:

MP> Actually - looking again, it's a mess!!

However it winds up, I hope my filters will still continue to
work. There are those whose mails I save as my own "Manual to
TB!" :-) Their posts are usually so helpful, so I've set
subfolders in my TBUDL folder for them by name.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, July 30, 2018, 1:20:48 PM, you wrote:

> just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB! 
> displays all senders in the message list

That is normal. The "sender" is the mailing list itself.
What  is  important  is  what are in "From" and "reply-to". The "from"
should  be  the individual person who made the post. The "reply-to" is
normally the list address, but some have that as the actual person who
made the post.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[Marck Pearlstone]

Dear T'Buddlers,

>> Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings
>> till they find a
>> better solution.  

> That's great news!

> It's still a shame the bug 
> has not been corrected yet. Despite Marck's claim in
> 
> that "TB is just showing you what is there. No more, no less."
> my TB! displays all senders in the message list for a Yahoo group as
> just the group's email address, but only for messages downloaded
> since I upgraded to TB! 8.2. Granted that when you actually view the
> "sendername senderemail [listname]" .
> Searching on SENDER contains SENDERNAME only brings up results that
> were downloaded pre-8.2.

Actually - looking again, it's a mess!! I see messages in the list
that TB says are from me but, when I click on them, I see Maria or
Roelof are the actual senders in the From address on TBOT. I see a
transition in another list over the new year. A late December message
shows the "From" in an almost correct manner while a message from the
same individual in the same format with very similar headers is just
showing the list address as the "From".

I am adding a confirmation to the bug report.

Apologies for my incorrect analysis in the first place!

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 28 July 2018 at 12:44:00 PM, in
, MAU wrote:-


> Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings
> till they find a
> better solution.  

That's great news!

It's still a shame the bug 
has not been corrected yet. Despite Marck's claim in

that "TB is just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB! 
displays all senders in the message list for a Yahoo group as just the 
group's email address, but only for messages downloaded since I 
upgraded to TB! 8.2. Granted that when you actually view the 
"sendername senderemail [listname]" . 
Searching on SENDER contains SENDERNAME only brings up results that 
were downloaded pre-8.2.


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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

>> Change to list settings
>> ---
>
>> I  have received the following request from Max
>> Masiutin to modify the
>> way  the  list  addresses  out bound mail and have
>> changed the Mailman
>> settings accordingly.
>
>
> That is a pity as it gives false information. The messages are sent
> _to_ the list, they do not originate _from_ the list. 

Don't  worry. Marck has already reverted the settings till they find a
better solution.

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Re: Moderators Announcement

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 23 July 2018 at 11:15:08 PM, in
,
tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com wrote:-


> Hi T'Buddlers,

> Change to list settings
> ---

> I  have received the following request from Max
> Masiutin to modify the
> way  the  list  addresses  out bound mail and have
> changed the Mailman
> settings accordingly.


That is a pity as it gives false information. The messages are sent
_to_ the list, they do not originate _from_ the list. 

Will it make this list suffer from the bug that was introduced in TB! 8.2,
which I reported at ? Not 
being able to see from the message list display who posted which 
message is a major irritation on lists affected by that bug.  


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Re: Outlook Calendar emails

[Adrian Godfrey]

Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:41:17 PM, you wrote:

>  It would be good it TB!
> could do something similar (if just the display of the invite in a
> readable format).

Not  specifically  Outlook,  but it would nice if The Bat actually lets
you  choose a specific application for specific file types. Using file
associations  is  a  problem  in  Windows 10 because they keep getting
reverted  to  "Windows  defaults".  I  notice it  most  with  PDFs when
suddenly Edge starts instead of the program I actually specified.

My  firewall  traps  Outlook, but every so often, that tries to start.
Strangely  setting The  Bat  as  my  default email client does NOT get
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Re: Outlook Calendar emails

[jb_lists_tb]

Hello Tom,

On Monday, July 9, 2018, 10:02:24 PM, Tom wrote:

>  yes,  I  realise  what they are and squinting long enough can get the
>  relevant  information  out of the gibberish being served but I agree,
>  ideally  TB  should  make  them  readable  in  an  easy txt format. I
>  understand that the program does not have a calendar function and
>  I am fine with that but most of my partners do use outlook and
>  assume everyone else is too.

I use my phone email client to handle .ics files, as it displays them
in an easy to read format, and adds them to my Google calendar,
handling the invite response effectively too. It would be good it TB!
could do something similar (if just the display of the invite in a
readable format).


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Re: Only Current G-Mail

[Richard Newman]

Hello MFPA,

Sunday, June 24, 2018, 5:47:12 AM, you wrote:
M> Assuming you are using POP to download your messages from your Gmail
M> account, within The Bat! go to Account Options | Transport tab | 
M> Receive Mail section and add "recent:" (without quotes, and with no 
Thanks. That worked like a charm!

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Re: Outlook Calendar emails

[Tom]

Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:19:54 AM, you wrote:


> Maybe they can come up with a viewer for these that displays the
> most important information like subject, description, localised date
> and time, attendees (people invited) and whether it is a recurring
> appointment, like this one. You can tell by the RRULE lines which
> indicate a yearly recurrence on the first Sunday of april and oktober.

 Maurice,

 yes,  I  realise  what they are and squinting long enough can get the
 relevant  information  out of the gibberish being served but I agree,
 ideally  TB  should  make  them  readable  in  an  easy txt format. I
 understand that the program does not have a calendar function and
 I am fine with that but most of my partners do use outlook and
 assume everyone else is too.

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Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree

[Adrian Godfrey]

> A very helpful person t Ritlabs gave me a solution:

> Close The Bat

> Delete the AccOder.cfg file
> Regedit HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1".
> Restart The Bat and change the "user-defined directory" accordingly

It's not intuitive putting the quote _before_ the new text.

But  that  aside,  the duplicates have returned during the night. They
were   gone.  I wonder if it's the periodic checking (in my case, most
are  att  30  minutes,  but some at 60 minutes and some at even longer
intervals)  for new mail or the automated backup that causes them.
All my mail accounts use POP.

I  actually  have  The  Bat  version  8.5 (current), but I don't think
it'sthis  specific  version.  They  were  definiely  there  in 8.4 and
possibly  earlier. I had moved all the mail accounts to the bottom, so
I only noticed the problem when I add some new ones recently.

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Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree

[Adrian Godfrey]

A very helpful person t Ritlabs gave me a solution:

Close The Bat

Delete the AccOder.cfg file
Regedit HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1".
Restart The Bat and change the "user-defined directory" accordingly

The drawback  is,  the  order  of  the entries change, but at least the
duplicates are gone.

Im  not  sure  yet whether directly editing that cfg file would let me
specify the actual order of entries in the tree.

in  the meantime, I have started  reorganising using "move up" and "move
down" within the program itself.

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Re: Outlook Calendar emails

[Maurice Snellen]

Hi Tom,

> On 6 Jul 2018, at 04:33, Tom  wrote:
> 
> I  don't  need  any function to add these to a calendar or similar but
> just  would  like  to  be able to read the content of the email easily
> without all the added "background info. Is
> there anything I can do about this?
> 
> Please see below an example:
> 
>> BEGIN:VCALENDAR
>> PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 14.0 MIMEDIR//EN
>> VERSION:2.0
>> METHOD:REQUEST
>> X-MS-OLK-FORCEINSPECTOROPEN:TRUE
>> BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
>> TZID:AUS Eastern Standard Time
>> BEGIN:STANDARD
>> DTSTART:16010401T03
>> RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=4
>> TZOFFSETFROM:+1100
>> TZOFFSETTO:+1000
>> END:STANDARD
>> BEGIN:DAYLIGHT
>> DTSTART:16011007T02
>> RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=10
>> TZOFFSETFROM:+1000
>> TZOFFSETTO:+1100
>> END:DAYLIGHT
>> END:VTIMEZONE
>> BEGIN:VEVENT
>> ATTENDEE;CN=t.com.au;RSVP=TRUE:mailto:xxx.com.au
>> ATTENDEE;CN="Txxe";RSVP=TRUE:mailto:com.au
>> CLASS:PUBLIC
>> CREATED:20180705T065330Z
>> DESCRIPTION:Gentlemen\, just a diary note for our Tuesday get together. I c
>> an’t live without these things in my Outlook. Can reschedule time of day
>> if required\, so I’ve set a reminder for first thing in the morning for
>> us all.\n\nRegards\nEddie\n
>> DTEND;TZID="AUS Eastern Standard Time":20180710T15
>> DTSTAMP:20180705T065330Z
>> DTSTART;TZID="AUS Eastern Standard Time":20180710T13
>> LAST-MODIFIED:20180705T065330Z
>> ORGANIZER;CN="xxxs":mailto:xxx.com.au
>> PRIORITY:5
>> SEQUENCE:0
>> SUMMARY;LANGUAGE=en-au:Eddie - first week thoughts
>> TRANSP:OPAQUE
>> UID:04008200E00074C5B7101A82E008A02B84B38014D401000
>> 01000B1DC1B048952AB4D82F1B56B617985CF
>> X-ALT-DESC;FMTTYPE=text/html: N">>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n>Gentlemen\, just a diary note for our Tuesday get together. I can’t 
>> live without these things in my Outlook. Can reschedule time of day if req
>> uired\, so I’ve set a reminder for first thing in the morning for us all
>> .\n\n
>> Regards\n\n>Eddie\n\n\n>> 
>> X-MICROSOFT-CDO-BUSYSTATUS:TENTATIVE
>> X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1
>> X-MICROSOFT-CDO-INTENDEDSTATUS:BUSY
>> X-MICROSOFT-DISALLOW-COUNTER:FALSE
>> X-MS-OLK-AUTOSTARTCHECK:FALSE
>> X-MS-OLK-CONFTYPE:0
>> BEGIN:VALARM
>> TRIGGER:-PT360M
>> ACTION:DISPLAY
>> DESCRIPTION:Reminder
>> END:VALARM
>> END:VEVENT
>> END:VCALENDAR

These are called iCalendar files, normally saved in .ics files and usually they 
should look like an attachment of this type. The format is similar to vCard 
files, except that they contain calendar items instead of address book items.

Maybe they can come up with a viewer for these that displays the most important 
information like subject, description, localised date and time, attendees 
(people invited) and whether it is a recurring appointment, like this one. You 
can tell by the RRULE lines which indicate a yearly recurrence on the first 
Sunday of april and oktober.

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Re: Only Current G-Mail

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 21 June 2018 at 7:56:18 PM, in
, Richard Newman wrote:-


>   How  can I tell TB to load only the most recent
> emails . . . just as
>   it does with three other Gmail accounts?


Assuming you are using POP to download your messages from your Gmail 
account, within The Bat! go to Account Options | Transport tab | 
Receive Mail section and add "recent:" (without quotes, and with no 
space after the colon) to the front of your user name. Gmail should 
then not download messages more than 30 days old. (Make sure to add it 
only for the POP settings, not the SMTP.)

For more info, try googling something like "gmail recent mode".


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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Adrian,

On Tuesday, June 05, 2018 at 10:47:08 PM you wrote:

AG> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 2:00:11 AM, you wrote:

>> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
>> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
>> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
>> such applications??

AG> Any  Windows virtual machine on a Mac should work. I have VMWare on my
AG> Mac,  but  I  use it very rarely,-Rather defeats the point of buying a
AG> Mac and then running Windows-

Yes, agreed. My problem is that necessary other software we use has 
stopped Windows development and gone over to the Mac universe, 
I'm not willing to give up TB!  - ergo.

AG> I need to look at Crossover for my Linux PC.

I was happy with the Play on Linux running TB! I upgraded from my
ancient XP and version 4.22 of TB! to version 7 (something)
because 8 was unstable there.

AG> A native Linux and Mac version of The Bat is of course the ideal

Yesss.  

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:51:16 +0100 GMT (08-Jun-18, 12:21 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
>> filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


  ,
> Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
> your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

No it is not, because I don't want TB! to continue with other filters.
There  might  one  that  is  lower  in the list; sorting my filters is
something I am careful with.

I would think that sub-filters are always checked (in the order of the
subfilters)  even  if  "continue..." is not checked, as otherwise they
are inactive.

> Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
> filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required
> folder in Account B.

I  think this would be the solution. However, here is the reason why I
have the two-step process:

The email address is an alias of a main email address. So, while it is
a  different  address,  it is really the same mailbox. This made sense
when  only  a  few  messages  arrived  there.  However,  the volume is
increasing  so that I first had sub-folders, and now an entire account
(which does not check emails).

The  main  filter for this is triggered by that alias email address in
Headers,  and  then  the  subfilters  are  supposed  to  sort into the
different folders in that new dummy account.

Thinking  about  it,  it  is  unlikely that someone uses my main email
address  with a Header that is used as a trigger in the subfilters. So
I will take this way and change the subfilters to be main filters.

Thanks for this tip!

> I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
> filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
> a try.

These mails only arrive in that one main account, and the account they
are  filtered  into is a dummy account. I would like to make it a main
account  but  will have to check with GMX whether they can do it. If I
just  delete  the alias from the main account and then try to create a
new  account with that address, GMX will block that address from being
created  for  a certain time, I believe. And then I cannot receive any
mails, which would be a problem.
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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
> filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required 
folder in Account B.

I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
a try.
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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

[Adrian Godfrey]

Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 2:00:11 AM, you wrote:

> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
> such applications??

Any  Windows virtual machine on a Mac should work. I have VMWare on my
Mac,  but  I  use it very rarely,-Rather defeats the point of buying a
Mac and then running Windows-

I need to look at Crossover for my Linux PC.

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Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree

[Adrian Godfrey]

Sunday, June 3, 2018, 12:40:52 PM, you wrote:

> I had that with an account a few years ago. I deleted the account from
> TB", selecting the option to keep the account files on disk. Then I
> created a "new" account with the same name and pointed it to the
> existing account files. (First I made a copy of the account files in
> case anything went wrong.)

Shift  Ctrl  Alt L didn't fix the problem. Looks like I need to delete
the duplicates manually and recreate them   Deleting one will probably
delete all the others with the same name in the account tree.
I  have backups anywa and the addected accounts are on my own domains,
so no issues with "forgot password" routines.

Maybe  they  have been there a long time, but my first suspect for the
cause is the forced updates in Windows 10 Pro.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

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Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 7:13:25 PM, you wrote:

> In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
> recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

> By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

I would have thought they would work better. Mine are all IMAP accounts.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:37:31 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, manual refiltering works.

> Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP
> platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
> will
> automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter
> identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
> at
> some point.

> I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
> just
> fine with re-filter.

In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, manual refiltering works.

Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP 
platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
will 
automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter 
identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
at 
some point.

I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
just 
fine with re-filter.

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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jason,   

That is a disappointment. So, using a 'mail computer' will have 
to be the choice.

On Tuesday, June 05, 2018 at 6:51:37 AM you wrote:

JG> Apple has Parallels which works poorly at best.

JG> On June 4, 2018 8:02:10 PM Maggie Meister  wrote:

>> Hello all,
>>
>> We're thinking about buying a Mac computer. We already have two
>> Linux (Ubuntu), two Win7, and an XP. It seems some of the
>> software we are using is migrating away from the Win environment.
>>
>> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
>> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
>> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
>> such applications??
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the flap from Apple about the security
>> issues of email and their system, but I am loath to abandon my
>> TheBat! after using it since version 1, and not interested at all
>> in the Apple mail system.
>>
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>> Best regards,
>> Maggie Meister
>>
>> The Bat! Home Edition, Version 7.0.0.56 (32-bit) (Yes, I've
>> finally upgraded from v4xxx, but then, this is a Win7 machine.)

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:04:17 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:04 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

> Does the re-filter work.

Yes, manual refiltering works.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

Does the re-filter work.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:10:58 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 19:10 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

> It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the
> list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
> filter
> or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
> B after the mail has been moved there?

Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the 
list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
filter 
or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
B after the mail has been moved there?

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Re: Crossover or somesuch??

[Jason Gottschalk]

Apple has Parallels which works poorly at best.

On June 4, 2018 8:02:10 PM Maggie Meister  wrote:


Hello all,

We're thinking about buying a Mac computer. We already have two
Linux (Ubuntu), two Win7, and an XP. It seems some of the
software we are using is migrating away from the Win environment.

We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
such applications??

I'm not sure I understand the flap from Apple about the security
issues of email and their system, but I am loath to abandon my
TheBat! after using it since version 1, and not interested at all
in the Apple mail system.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:14:37 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 08:14 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

>> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
>> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
>> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

>> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
>> account  B end up in the Inbox.

>> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

> Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
> account  B end up in the Inbox.

> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

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Re[2]: Message in Outbox been being sent every three minutes for months

[Chris Wilson]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, May 26, 2018,  you wrote:

> Hello Chris,

> On Wed, 23 May 2018 12:12:17 +0100 GMT (23-May-18, 18:12 +0700 GMT),
> Chris Wilson wrote:

>> My UK based ISP Zen Internet sent me a nasty e-mail saying a lot of
>> Spam mail was emanating from my PC yesterday. I run a legacy TB!
>> version v5.8.10 as I am very comfortable with it, but it has never
>> knowingly done the following before.

>> I had a filter set to forward from my main e-mail account
>> "chriswilson.tv" folder to my GMAIL account, so I can read it on my
>> phone when out and about. It appears that although any Spam I receive
>> at chriswilson.tv is also forwarded to my GMAIL account, this
>> particular mail did send, but remained in TB's Outbox. I poll the POP3
>> mail server at Zen every three minutes, and apparently every three
>> minutes since January this year TB! has attempted to send this Spam
>> e-mail. A recent review of mail security at Zen had them challenge
>> this with me and it resulted in them stopping my ability to send mail
>> through their servers altogether until I could explain what was
>> happening with my mail client r PC. An hour or so on the phone to them
>> today had me by chance look in the TB! Outbox and see a message sat
>> there that was one it was trying to forward to my GMAIL address. I
>> quoted the headers and Zen confirmed this was the single e-mail that
>> TB! had constantly been trying to push across their servers since
>> January!

>> Should this have been reflected back with a 500 authorization failure
>> by Zen or GMAIL, and even if not should TB! have just kept on trying
>> to push it through? Is there a workaround like TB! automatically
>> emptying the Outbox every night, and if so, how should I implement
>> that please? Thanks ;)

> I cannot confirm this; sometimes a mail cannot be sent and then it
> won't be sent, and TB! will leave it in the Outbox. In your case, the
> mail was sent but it still remained in the Outbox. That is weird.




Thank you Thomas, the issue has not returned and I have had many years
trouble  free  enjoyment from this elderly version, I will put it down
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Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 2 June 2018 at 9:43:30 PM, in
, Adrian Godfrey wrote:-

> Is  there  a  way  to  force  a refresh of the
> account tree that would
> remove the duplicates and only leave the account
> there once?

I had that with an account a few years ago. I deleted the account from
TB", selecting the option to keep the account files on disk. Then I
created a "new" account with the same name and pointed it to the
existing account files. (First I made a copy of the account files in
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Re: Accounts showing multiple times in the tree

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Adrian,

On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 22:43:30 +0200 GMT (03-Jun-18, 03:13 +0700 GMT),
Adrian Godfrey wrote:

> I  just  noticed that some of my email accounts are showing more than once in
> the  account  tree.  I  renamed one, but it renamed all the others for
> that  one  as  well.  The  actual  account directory for such affected
> accounts only exists once on my hard disk.
> Is  there  a  way  to  force  a refresh of the account tree that would
> remove the duplicates and only leave the account there once?

> Windows 10 Pro, The Bat Version 8.3

Try shift-crtl-alt-L. This will usually find lost folders on the
harddisk, I don't know whether it will also delete duplicate
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Re: Message in Outbox been being sent every three minutes for months

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Wed, 23 May 2018 12:12:17 +0100 GMT (23-May-18, 18:12 +0700 GMT),
Chris Wilson wrote:

> My UK based ISP Zen Internet sent me a nasty e-mail saying a lot of
> Spam mail was emanating from my PC yesterday. I run a legacy TB!
> version v5.8.10 as I am very comfortable with it, but it has never
> knowingly done the following before.

> I had a filter set to forward from my main e-mail account
> "chriswilson.tv" folder to my GMAIL account, so I can read it on my
> phone when out and about. It appears that although any Spam I receive
> at chriswilson.tv is also forwarded to my GMAIL account, this
> particular mail did send, but remained in TB's Outbox. I poll the POP3
> mail server at Zen every three minutes, and apparently every three
> minutes since January this year TB! has attempted to send this Spam
> e-mail. A recent review of mail security at Zen had them challenge
> this with me and it resulted in them stopping my ability to send mail
> through their servers altogether until I could explain what was
> happening with my mail client r PC. An hour or so on the phone to them
> today had me by chance look in the TB! Outbox and see a message sat
> there that was one it was trying to forward to my GMAIL address. I
> quoted the headers and Zen confirmed this was the single e-mail that
> TB! had constantly been trying to push across their servers since
> January!

> Should this have been reflected back with a 500 authorization failure
> by Zen or GMAIL, and even if not should TB! have just kept on trying
> to push it through? Is there a workaround like TB! automatically
> emptying the Outbox every night, and if so, how should I implement
> that please? Thanks ;)

I cannot confirm this; sometimes a mail cannot be sent and then it
won't be sent, and TB! will leave it in the Outbox. In your case, the
mail was sent but it still remained in the Outbox. That is weird.

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Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Achdut18,

On Wed, 2 May 2018 17:23:49 -0500 GMT (03-May-18, 05:23 +0700 GMT),
Achdut18 wrote:

> Thanks for your response.  See below,

> Friday, April 27, 2018, 10:44:54 PM, you wrote:


TF>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT),
TF>> Avram Sacks wrote:

>>> The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately -
>>> four months.   It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop,
>>> shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an
>>> e-mail. 

> * * * 

TF>> I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home
TF>> computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my
TF>> computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out
TF>> at 3GB. No more slots.

> But, I have 8 GB of RAM on my laptop.  I don't believe lack of RAM
> is the problem here.  This can happen with just a few windows open.  

> This can happen in the same session several times in a row, and
> then not happen.   There is no consistency.

> Any other ideas?





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Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing

[Achdut18]

Thanks for your response.  See below,

Friday, April 27, 2018, 10:44:54 PM, you wrote:


TF> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT),
TF> Avram Sacks wrote:

>> The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately -
>> four months.   It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop,
>> shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an
>> e-mail. 

* * * 

TF> I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home
TF> computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my
TF> computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out
TF> at 3GB. No more slots.

But, I have 8 GB of RAM on my laptop.  I don't believe lack of RAM is the 
problem here.  This can happen with just a few windows open.  

This can happen in the same session several times in a row, and then not 
happen.   There is no consistency.

Any other ideas?


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Re: spontaneous restart of The Bat when executing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avram,

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:20:37 -0500 GMT (28-Apr-18, 06:20 +0700 GMT),
Avram Sacks wrote:

> The Bat has been acting strangely for the past - approximately -
> four months.   It will, usually, but not always, automatically stop,
> shut down, and then re-start, if I attempt to copy text into an
> e-mail. The text could be a URL from a website, or a portion of
> a Power Point slide.  It doesn't matter.   

> Unfortunately, when this happens, none of the open e-mails will
> re-open.  If I have 10 e-mails open, I either have to recall which
> ones among any one of a dozen e-mail accounts, or forego having them
> open, again, on my desktop.   E-mails that are being edited for
> sending will be in the outbox.   However, open e-mail from the
> in-box, will be back among the thousands (tens of thousands!!) of
> e-mails and there is no way to recall all that were open. 

> This constant re-starting of The Bat is annoying.  It never did
> this before.  I am using the same laptop that I have always used.   
> No hardware has been added or changed.  Why is this happening and
> what can I do to fix this?  This happens about 95% of the time.  The
> few times it doesn't happen are usually right after the application has 
> restarted.

I have experienced it a few times, not often. Only on my home
computer, never on my laptop. My guess has always been that my
computer does not habe enough RAM - old motherboard, it is maxed out
at 3GB. No more slots.

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Re: Forcing a text format

[Susanne]

Hello Jack,

Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 2:45:58 PM, you wrote:

> I know I can set the text format in OPTIONS - PREFERENCES but I'd like to keep
> it set to plain text and use the macro to force it to HTML for certain 
> messages.

This sound exactly like what I want to do with one particular folder!
How would I force just the messages that get sorted into this folder to show as 
"text" with the macro?

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Re: Forcing a text format

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 07:20:39 -0500 GMT (25-Apr-18, 19:20 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 you wrote:

TF>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:45:58 -0500 GMT (25-Apr-18, 04:45 +0700 GMT),
TF>> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>>> I remember from quite a while back learning of a macro which would set the 
>>> text
>>> format when placed in a template. However, as expected, I no longer 
>>> remember how
>>> to do it. Can anyone re-educate me?

>>> I know I can set the text format in OPTIONS - PREFERENCES but I'd like to 
>>> keep
>>> it set to plain text and use the macro to force it to HTML for certain 
>>> messages.

TF>> I think you are looking for %SETEDITOR="number"

TF>> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/#6650

> Thank you Thomas. That's exactly what I was looking for.

> And thank you for the link to TB!s help center. Perhaps I won't
> have to bother this list so much in the future with questions I may be able 
> to answer myself.

The Help Center website also opens when you hit F1 (the universal Help
shortcut) or click Help / Help Topics in the main menu. ;-)

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Re: Forcing a text format

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:45:58 -0500 GMT (25-Apr-18, 04:45 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> I remember from quite a while back learning of a macro which would set the 
>> text
>> format when placed in a template. However, as expected, I no longer remember 
>> how
>> to do it. Can anyone re-educate me?

>> I know I can set the text format in OPTIONS - PREFERENCES but I'd like to 
>> keep
>> it set to plain text and use the macro to force it to HTML for certain 
>> messages.

TF> I think you are looking for %SETEDITOR="number"

TF> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/#6650

Thank you Thomas. That's exactly what I was looking for.

And thank you for the link to TB!s help center. Perhaps I won't have to bother 
this list so much in the future with questions I may be able to answer myself.

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Re: Forcing a text format

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:45:58 -0500 GMT (25-Apr-18, 04:45 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> I remember from quite a while back learning of a macro which would set the 
>> text
>> format when placed in a template. However, as expected, I no longer remember 
>> how
>> to do it. Can anyone re-educate me?

>> I know I can set the text format in OPTIONS - PREFERENCES but I'd like to 
>> keep
>> it set to plain text and use the macro to force it to HTML for certain 
>> messages.

TF> I think you are looking for %SETEDITOR="number"

TF> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/#6650

Thank you Thomas. That's exactly what I was looking for.

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