W95gray.exe (Was Re: uninstall please)

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> Another good utility  (at least for 95) is something called
> W95gray.exe, which I can't find anymore on their page.

The font smoother... Yeah, that's a nice little proggie.
(Love those 'Plus' features)
It's here:


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Re: uninstall please

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:29:11 -0400, Jan wrote these words of wisdom:

...
JR>   On this list I've read that one can use regedit to search for 'RIT'
JR>   in order to clean out the registry but someone else will have to
JR>   confirm that as I, for one, am not knowledgeable enough & so I don't
JR>   like to mess around with the registry unless I *absolutely* have to.

If you have only TB! installed, then you can delete the subkey

HKCU/Software/rit

If you have SecureBat! installed as well, then you'd have to delete the
subkey:

HKCU/Software/rit/The Bat!

since the SecureBat! registry entries are stored under:

HKCU/Software/rit/SecureBat!

TB! registry entries reside in only one location which makes it easy to
manually uninstall TB! completely.

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Re: uninstall please

[Thomas F]

Hello Silviu,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:22:58 +0300 GMT (20/06/2001, 01:22 +0800 GMT),
Silviu Cojocaru wrote:

>> I continue to learn. Can I assume "Tweakui" is a 3rd party appl? If
>>   so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA

> It's a free tool from M$. It should be on your windows CD.

I was recently warned that the version on the CD is buggy. Download
the fixed version (freeware!) from:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstation/downloads/PowerToys/Networking/NTTweakUI.asp

Even though it says "NT", it is actually the version that also works
under Win98.

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Re: uninstall please

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 6:58:06 PM you wrote:

>   I continue to learn. Can I assume "Tweakui" is a 3rd party appl?

It's a non-official utility by MS itself, part of the PowerToys. For
Windows 98 you will find it somewhere on the installation CD, for 95
it is somewhere on their downloads page (I have forgotten where, but
their search function is not bad). For 2000 and ME I you will find it
on their site, maybe even on the CD's.

Very handy, very good and absolutely essential for a lot of options
you can also reach through registry editing.

Another good utility  (at least for 95) is something called
W95gray.exe, which I can't find anymore on their page.



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Re: uninstall please

[Silviu Cojocaru]

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 7:58:06 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

> I continue to learn. Can I assume "Tweakui" is a 3rd party appl? If
>   so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA

It's a free tool from M$. It should be on your windows CD.

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Re: uninstall please

[Don Zeigler]

On 6/19/01 7:57:57 AM
Jan Rifkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  >   Well now there's a thought. I hope some tech_maven will come along
  >   to explain how TB! can be installed without showing up on windows
  >   install/un-install list. I'd be interested.
  

Sounds like a buggy installation to me - it's failing to add The Bat! to the
add/remove list. Often (but not always) you can find the actual uninstall
program in the program's folder.
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Re: uninstall please

[Heinz Tschabitscher]

> Ok here's something that may work for those that want to un-install
> TB! (why in the world they wanna do that beats me) but in the dir
> where TB! installed there's a program called del_bat.exe or
> something like that. It's TB! un-install program.

Hmm. Look for a program called TBat_DEL.exe in your Windows directory
(C:\WINNT\, C:\WINDOWS or something like that) and run it. This is
what uninstalling via the Windows uninstall menu would do.

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Re: uninstall please

[Silviu Cojocaru]

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Tuesday, June 19, 2001, 4:34:18 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:


Ok here's something that may work for those that want to
un-install TB! (why in the world they wanna do that beats me)
but in the dir where TB! installed there's a program called
del_bat.exe or something like that. It's TB! un-install program.

Use it and no more TB!

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Re: uninstall please

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Ronald!

On Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 4:04:28 AM you wrote:

> Win 2000 Pro has some flaws in common with WinMe maybe ? :biggrin:

Why not?

But back to topic, since Daf said TB! is not in his Add/Remove, here
is the other way:

1. Close TB!

2. Delete the folder you installed TB! to

3. Open the programme regedit.exe - or the appropriate registry
editing place on your machine - and search for the key tree "RIT"

4. Delete the whole tree

5. For good measure you can now search for all places TB! is coming up
(i.e. associations) and delete them

6. To get rid of everything connected to TB! you now only have to
delete all shortcuts to TB! you or the installer created



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Re: uninstall please

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On Monday, June 18, 2001, at 6:34:18 PM PDT, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR> Hmm... Its hard for me to imagine that The Bat! doesn't show up in the
JR> Add/Remove Program dialogue. Is it possible you forgot to scroll down?

JR> I'm on a W2K_SP2 machine myself & 'The Bat!' shows up in the
JR> Add/Remove program dialogue.

On my WinME machine, TB! is in Add/Remove Programs. I like TB! so much
though, I don't think I'll be using the uninstaller anytime soon.

Since the only people with a missing Add/Remove entry for TB! seem to be
those wanting to remove it, I can only conclude that TB! is even smarter
than we think, and is just hiding. :-)

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Re: uninstall please

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Daf,

On Monday, June 18, 2001 20:08:56 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'uninstall please':

>>   [..]Now as I go to uninstall it I find that ...I can't!?!?
>>   It doesn't appear in my add/remove programs box.
>>   Please help me remove this program.
>>   I'm using Win2000pro. [...]

  Hmm... Its hard for me to imagine that The Bat! doesn't show up in
  the Add/Remove Program dialogue. Is it possible you forgot to scroll
  down?

  I'm on a W2K_SP2 machine myself & 'The Bat!' shows up in the
  Add/Remove program dialogue. What follows are the steps I would take
  to change/remove The Bat! from my system:

  Start
  settings
  Control Panel
  Add/Remove Programs
  Scroll down to "The Bat!"
  Click 'Change/Remove"

  That does it.

  HTH

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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Hello Lars!

On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:27:25 AM you wrote:

> On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
> .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
> can't delete the attachment either.

Same here.

BTW, what happened to the mailing list's footlines in that message?


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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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Hi mark,

On 13 April 2001 at  21:31:04 -0700 (which was 05:31 where I  live)
mark nathanson wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules
and  many  of  the  members here do not appreciate  it. Some even have
filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash.

mn> I installed the Bat 1.51 and wanted to uninstall. Went to
mn> Control-add/remove-clicked the bat and immediately this error came
mn> up"Exception E registry exception in module TBAT_Del.exe at
mn> 7298. Failed to get data for language." Tried reinstalling
mn> over 1.51 but same error. Would like to get a complete uninstall.
mn> Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

mn> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer athttp://explorer.msn.com

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 12:41:30 +0800 you wrote:

> The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type
> is text/html.

On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
.shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
can't delete the attachment either.

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 12:41:30 AM on 4/13/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T> However, your message is an example of an HTML attachment that
T> cannot be deleted. The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the
T> content-type is text/html. Can anybody confirm that this
T> combination always results in undeletable HTML attachments?

Not confirmed here, unless I'm going blind. :)

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

[Thomas]

Hi Mark,

delete the whole The Bat! directory, and the reg key HKCU / Software /
RIT, and you're done.

BTW I hear-say that a new (near future) install version of TB should
also install a correct uninstall facility.

However, your message is an example of an HTML attachment that cannot
be deleted. The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the
content-type is text/html. Can anybody confirm that this combination
always results in undeletable HTML attachments?

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Re[4]: OE message import (was: Re: Uninstall problem)

[SyP]

Hello Susanne,

You wrote on 9/18/2000, 7:38 PM


Susanne> thanks for the hint. It's helped quite a bit.

You're most welcome. :)

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: Ming-Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Sorry if I'm stating the obvious: have you compress the folders in
> OE before trying to import them into TB?

Sometimes the obvious is easily overlooked . I thought I had
OE set to compact in the background, but alas, I hadn't.
The compacting helped a lot, though as you said, not 100%.

Thanks for all the other advice, I actually have the DBXtract.exe
downloaded. I'm going to give it a try.

Susanne



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Re: Re[2]: OE message import (was: Re: Uninstall problem)

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: SyP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Try to compact OE's folders before importing to TB.
> 

Hi SyP,

thanks for the hint. It's helped quite a bit.

Susanne

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Re[2]: OE message import (was: Re: Uninstall problem)

[SyP]

Hello The Bat! users,

Susanne wrote on 9/18/2000, 4:00 AM

S> It seems really easy. I didn't have to convert the messages to any
S> other format. But at least 50% come through empty, cut off in the
S> middle and with no sender, subject line or date.

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Ming-Li]

On Sunday, September 17, 2000, 1:08:42 PM, Susanne wrote:

> I may try reinstalling. Had problems importing my OE5 messages. A
> lot of them came through without any subject line, were cut off
> halfway or were completely empty. Is this a common problem?

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious: have you compress the folders in
OE before trying to import them into TB?

I left OE a couple of months ago, and had problem importing my mail
to any other email programs I tried at the time (TB, Becky, and
Eudora), and further investigation lead me to believe that OE is
responsible for most of the problems. Compressing them first would
eliminate some, though not all, of the problems. For those
ill-converted messages, I went back to OE, saved them as individual
.eml files, rename them to .msg files, and imported them as such
(they are in fact the same).

If there are too many messages requiring such treatment in a folder,
there's a freeware utility called DBXtract.exe which would extract
all messages from a OE4/5 folder and save them as individual .eml
files, so you don't have to do it one by one in OE. I lost the link
to the original web site, but it should be easy to find with a
search engine.

Sometimes even individual .eml files won't import properly, however,
and examining them (plain text files) with an editor would show
there's garbage data in it. There's nothing I could do but clean it
myself (if it's important) or discard it.

Messages imported from OE won't have the correct Received Date/Time.
It's because OE doesn't track the received time the way TB does (TB
track the date/time it receives messages, OE use the date/time your
server receive them). If you care (some people use mainly the
Created Time, and don't care about Received Time), you'll have to
export them from TB, correct them with an editor (preferably with an
advanced editor with macro ability), and re-import them.

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Tony Boom]

This message: 18/09/2000 10:58 GMT.

Hello Susanne,


  A reminder of what Susanne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
  18 September 2000 at 18:14:53 GMT -0700

S> My main problem with the Bat at this point is that my OE messages
S> don't transfer over very well.

  Why not forward them all to yourself? I realize you may have hundreds
  of messages but you could use OE to forward small amounts at a time via
  your ISP and pick them up with The Bat over a period of time.

S> I'm careful and do bi-weekly backups of all my mail folders to an RW,
  
  So is it really necessary to transfer them over to TB? If you have them
  all on RW then you still have them to refer back to with OE if need be.

  Just a thought.

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Re: OE message import (was: Re: Uninstall problem)

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: Januk Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But back to OE:  If I remember correctly, you have to export your OE
> messages into some neutral format (Unix mailbox or something) and then
> import this into TB.
> 
> How did you try importing?
> 

You go to Tools -> Import Messages -> Mailbox Import Wizard ->
Outlook Express 5, find the OE message storage location and choose
which folders to import.

It seems really easy. I didn't have to convert the messages to any
other format. But at least 50% come through empty, cut off in the
middle and with no sender, subject line or date.

Regards,

Susanne
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OE message import (was: Re: Uninstall problem)

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Susanne,


On  Sunday, September 17, 2000  at  18:14:53 GMT -0700 (which was 6:14 PM
where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed:

>  Right, that's the only problem I have with OE. I've used it for years
> and so far I've been lucky, and of course I'm careful and do bi-weekly
> backups of all my mail folders to an RW, so I can always get my mail
> back.
> But the security concerns are what made me look around for other
> choices.

Those are probably good precautions to use regardless of the program
you're using.

> You all seem to be very protective of the Bat ;)

That's a bit of an understatement. :)

> And after using a program for years it takes a while to warm up to a 
> new one .

Stick around, I think you'll like this one.

> My main problem with the Bat at this point is that my OE messages
> don't transfer over very well.

I was surprised to find the instructions were not in the FAQ.
Especially since there are instructions for a couple of other
programs.  Oh well, what can you do?

But back to OE:  If I remember correctly, you have to export your OE
messages into some neutral format (Unix mailbox or something) and then
import this into TB.

How did you try importing?


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Re: Uninstall problem

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- Original Message - 
From: tracer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Select yes and be the target of all the MS macro virus/trojan and
> other attacks (g)

 Right, that's the only problem I have with OE. I've used it for years
and so far I've been lucky, and of course I'm careful and do bi-weekly
backups of all my mail folders to an RW, so I can always get my mail
back.
But the security concerns are what made me look around for other
choices. You all seem to be very protective of the Bat ;)

And after using a program for years it takes a while to warm up to a 
new one .

My main problem with the Bat at this point is that my OE messages
don't transfer over very well.

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Arjan de Groot]

On Sunday, September 17, 2000 22:08:42, Susanne wrote:

>Had problems importing my OE5 messages. A lot of them came through
>without any subject line, were cut off halfway or were completely
>empty. Is this a common problem?

Yes it is.:-(


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Re: Uninstall problem

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Susanne,


On  Sunday, September 17, 2000  at  13:08:42 GMT -0700 (which was 1:08 PM
where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed:


> - Original Message - 
> From: Januk Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> > I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and
>> > want to uninstall.
>> 
>> It's too bad things didn't work out for you.

> Thanks for the quick reply!

> I may try reinstalling. Had problems importing my OE5 messages.
> A lot of them came through without any subject line, were cut
> off halfway or were completely empty. Is this a common problem?

> Also, I was missing a 'Save as' feature where you can save your
> messages with the subject line as the file name, not just a number.
> Is there such a thing and I just missed it?

>> You can just delete the The bat! folder and remove the registry key
>> 
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT]
>> 
>> If you don't feel comfortable diving into your registry, I can supply
>> you with a one line batch file that will do the job for you.

> I'm definitely not experienced enough to change anything in the registry!
> So, yes, I'd be grateful if you could supply the above mentioned file.

You can just run this command from the command line (Start -> Run)

regedit /D HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

Please note, I haven't tried it, I don't want to delete my TB reg
entries.  :)  But it should work.




 


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Re: Uninstall problem

[tracer]

Hello Susanne,
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:40:30 -0700 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, September 18, 2000, 2:40:30 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Susanne wrote:


> Hi,

> I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and
> want to uninstall.
> I tried going to add/remove programs, but the Bat doesn't
> show up as a choice there. How do I uninstall it?

> Also, the program shows up as the default for opening
> .eml messages. How can I change this back to using
> Outlook Express5?

Select in the control panel the setting that OE is the default email
program and click on any link to write a mail. very likely the thing
will tell you its not the default emailer and do you want to make it
that.

Select yes and be the target of all the MS macro virus/trojan and
other attacks (g)

For me using the bat isnt only that I like it better, its that its
much more secure that the microsoft programs. Added its extreemly
likely to lose address book and mail if you get a windows crash or at
least cost you much more for a computer shop to recover old mail etc.

> Susanne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Best regards,
 
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Re: Uninstall problem/.eml

[Mark Aston]

Hi Susanne,

Sunday, September 17, 2000, 10:28:16 PM, you wrote:

S> I feel more comfortable trying The Bat now.
S> OE5 never gave me any problems so far, but I don't like 
S> the security problems associated with it.

S> Another question: Is there a limit on the folder sizes for 
S> the Bat? I get a lot of messages and keep many of them, too,
S> so things add up pretty fast.

Not that I know of, many people on the list have tens of thousands of
messages stored in a single folder without problems. I find anything
above about 500 slows down a folder when you first open it but I am
running Windows 2000 on a 166MHz so everything is sloow!


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Maximum Folder Size (was: Re: Uninstall problem/.eml)

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Susanne,


On  Sunday, September 17, 2000  at  14:28:16 GMT -0700 (which was 2:28 PM
where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed:


> I just got this part changed to OE again. Got the following
> path from a newsgroup and it worked.

> "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE" /eml:%1

> Just thought I'd post it in case someone else ever needs 
> to solve this.

Thanks for the tip.

> I just don't like it when things get changed on my computer
> without me choosing to or knowing how to reverse the
> change.

Fair enough.  I hope you find your experience with TB to be a good
one.


> Another question: Is there a limit on the folder sizes for 
> the Bat? I get a lot of messages and keep many of them, too,
> so things add up pretty fast.

Nope, there doesn't appear to be any maximum size limit.  However,
after you get about 5000+ messages in a single folder, it tends to
slow down certain operations.  You'll really only notice this when you
do purge/compress operations.  And even this is not significant if you
don't remove messages from these folders.


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Re: Uninstall problem/.eml

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes, try this, open Explorer go to View | Folder Options |File Types
> find EML, edit Open to read
> 
> "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msim.exe" /f "%1"

I just got this part changed to OE again. Got the following
path from a newsgroup and it worked.

"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE" /eml:%1

Just thought I'd post it in case someone else ever needs 
to solve this.

Now that I know how to do this I'm just going to check
out The Bat a little more and see which program works better
for me.
I just don't like it when things get changed on my computer
without me choosing to or knowing how to reverse the
change.

I feel more comfortable trying The Bat now.
OE5 never gave me any problems so far, but I don't like 
the security problems associated with it.

Another question: Is there a limit on the folder sizes for 
the Bat? I get a lot of messages and keep many of them, too,
so things add up pretty fast.

Thanks,

Susanne


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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

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From: Marck D. Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You might try this.
> 
> - - Open a folder on your hard drive.
> - - Select View then Folder Properties from the menu bar.
> - - Choose the File Types tab.
> - - Scroll down until you see Internet E-mail Message
> - - Click it once, then hit the Edit button.
> - - In the Actions box, select Open, then click the Edit button
> - - Use the Browse button to locate the OE executable, then click OK
> - - Click OK again, and again, and again

Hi,

this got the same results I had with the first option: OE5 opens up,
but not the selected .eml file.

Thanks anyhow! I hope to find a solution somehow.

Susanne

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

- Original Message -
From: Mark Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Yes, try this, open Explorer go to View | Folder Options |File Types
> find EML, edit Open to read
>
> "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msim.exe" /f "%1"

Tried this and when I click 'ok' I get:the specified program could not be
found.
Make sure the filename and path are correct (and yes, msim *is* where it's
supposed to be).

Thanks for the try.

Susanne
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Re: Uninstall problem

[Mark Aston]

Hi Susanne,

Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:43:10 PM, you wrote:

S> Can I export all the messages from one folder onto a RW disk, where
S> the message subject is the file name? I tried this yesterday and all
S> the messages were saved with a number as the file name.

This will happen if you export as msg format, your only other export
option is Unix which will save all the messages to one big file.

I think the only way to do what you want is to save each message
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Re: Uninstall problem

[David Tod Sigafoos]

Hello Susanne,

I would like to suggest that you try to stick with TB.  Although I
don't know what specific problems you are having I do believe that the
majority of them can be worked out.

I too am new to TB after using Eudora since it came out.  There are
some methods to the madness :-)  Some of the differences are
refreshing and some are irritating.  But my guess is that the good
will outweigh the bad.

As for the Uninstall problem Marck has given you a good process.  It
should work.  I wouldn't worry too much about the 'lint' left in the
registry.  Although it isn't a good design practice many many routines
do that 

Well, hope that you keep trying TB.  It is the best that I have found.



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Re: Uninstall problem

[Mark Aston]

Hi Susanne,

Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:25:00 PM, you wrote:

>> Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click,
>> select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
>> Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
>> open With".

S> Unfortunately this didn't work for me. All it does is open up OE5, but
S> not the selected message. Any other options?

Yes, try this, open Explorer go to View | Folder Options |File Types
find EML, edit Open to read

"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msim.exe" /f "%1"



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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

- Original Message -
From: Mark Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> S> Is there such a thing and I just missed it?
>
> >From the Message menu, Save As... you can save the message to another
> folder as text, .eml, .msg, or Unix format you can give it any file name
you wish,
> but it defaults to the message subject.

Hm, I don't know why I didn't see this before :}
Thanks!


 >This is the same as exporting
> a message

Can I export all the messages from one folder onto a RW disk, where
the message subject is the file name? I tried this yesterday and all
the messages were saved with a number as the file name.

And how do you read your newsgroups with the Bat? Do I need a
separate newsgroup reader?

Thanks for helping out a clueless new user.

Susanne


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Re: Uninstall problem

[Tobias Wrede]

Hello Susanne,

On Sonntag, 17. September 2000 at 22:25:00 you wrote:


> - Original Message - 
> From: Mark Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click,
>> select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
>> Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
>> open With".

> Unfortunately this didn't work for me. All it does is open up OE5, but
> not the selected message. Any other options?

Try to put "%1" behind the program file (C:\Program Files\Outlook
Express\msimn.exe "%1").

I havent tried that, though.

hth
Tobias

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Re: Uninstall problem

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Hi Susanne,

On 17 September 2000 at 13:25:00 GMT -0700 (which was 21:25 where I
live) Susanne wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Uninstall problem":

>>> Also,  the  program  shows  up  as  the  default  for opening .eml
>>> messages. How can I change this back to using Outlook Express5?
>>
>> Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click,
>> select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
>> Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
>> open With".

S> Unfortunately this didn't work for me. All it does is open up OE5, but
S> not the selected message. Any other options?

Here is a solution posted recently by Leif Gregory:

- -8<-

Unfortunately, this is a problem not with The Bat!, but with OE. When
you install OE it asserts its association with .EML files. When you
install The Bat!, it also asserts its association with .EML files.
This is the normal way of Windows. New software associates itself with
the filetypes it deals with.

The problem is that OE does not detect that it has lost the
association, and therefore never tries to reassert those associations.

For instance, if you load IE5, it asserts associations with .htm,
.html etc. When you then later install, for instance, Netscape, then
Netscape takes over those associations. However, in this case,
whenever you remove Netscape, and begin using IE again, it detects the
loss of associations and asks if you would like to make IE the default
browser again (which re-associates the filetypes.)  OE doesn't do
this, and I have no idea why. I guess they figure that they are the
only game in town and nobody else would use the .EML extension.

You might try this.

- - Open a folder on your hard drive.
- - Select View then Folder Properties from the menu bar.
- - Choose the File Types tab.
- - Scroll down until you see Internet E-mail Message
- - Click it once, then hit the Edit button.
- - In the Actions box, select Open, then click the Edit button
- - Use the Browse button to locate the OE executable, then click OK
- - Click OK again, and again, and again
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Re: Uninstall problem

[Mark Aston]

Hi Susanne,

Sunday, September 17, 2000, 9:08:42 PM, you wrote:

S> Also, I was missing a 'Save as' feature where you can save your
S> messages with the subject line as the file name, not just a number.
S> Is there such a thing and I just missed it?

>From the Message menu, Save As... you can save the message to another
folder as text, .eml, .msg, or Unix format you can give it any file name you wish,
but it defaults to the message subject. This is the same as exporting
a message, if you wish to Save messages within TB! just create an
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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> S> Also, the program shows up as the default for opening
> S> .eml messages. How can I change this back to using
> S> Outlook Express5?
> 
> Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click,
> select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
> Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
> open With".

Unfortunately this didn't work for me. All it does is open up OE5, but
not the selected message. Any other options?

Thanks,

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Susanne]

- Original Message - 
From: Januk Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and
> > want to uninstall.
> 
> It's too bad things didn't work out for you.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I may try reinstalling. Had problems importing my OE5 messages.
A lot of them came through without any subject line, were cut
off halfway or were completely empty. Is this a common problem?

Also, I was missing a 'Save as' feature where you can save your
messages with the subject line as the file name, not just a number.
Is there such a thing and I just missed it?

> You can just delete the The bat! folder and remove the registry key
> 
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT]
> 
> If you don't feel comfortable diving into your registry, I can supply
> you with a one line batch file that will do the job for you.

I'm definitely not experienced enough to change anything in the registry!
So, yes, I'd be grateful if you could supply the above mentioned file.

> 
> > Also, the program shows up as the default for opening
> > .eml messages. How can I change this back to using
> > Outlook Express5?
> 
> Several people have asked this, perhaps it should go into the FAQ?
> Unfortunately, I never pay attention to the answer for this
> question.  Sorry.

Thanks, maybe someone else can point me in the right direction?
I tried looking for info in the archive, but there are just too many
messages to go through.

Thanks,

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Re: Uninstall problem

[Mark Aston]

Hi Susanne,

Sunday, September 17, 2000, 8:40:30 PM, you wrote:


S> I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and
S> want to uninstall.

What problems? Have you asked for assistance on the list?

S> I tried going to add/remove programs, but the Bat doesn't
S> show up as a choice there. How do I uninstall it?

Just delete "The Bat!" folder, this will leave some registry entries
but that will not cause a problem.

S> Also, the program shows up as the default for opening
S> .eml messages. How can I change this back to using
S> Outlook Express5?

Open Windows Explorer, find a *.eml file, Shift then Right Click,
select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
open With".

I would not recommend returning to OE5, using it leaves you open to
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Re: Uninstall problem

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Susanne,


On  Sunday, September 17, 2000  at  12:40:30 GMT -0700 (which was 12:40 PM
where I live) witnesses say Susanne typed:

> Hi,

> I tried out the Bat, but have a few problems with it and
> want to uninstall.

It's too bad things didn't work out for you.

> I tried going to add/remove programs, but the Bat doesn't
> show up as a choice there. How do I uninstall it?

You can just delete the The bat! folder and remove the registry key

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT]

If you don't feel comfortable diving into your registry, I can supply
you with a one line batch file that will do the job for you.

> Also, the program shows up as the default for opening
> .eml messages. How can I change this back to using
> Outlook Express5?

Several people have asked this, perhaps it should go into the FAQ?
Unfortunately, I never pay attention to the answer for this
question.  Sorry.


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Re: UnInstall

[Mark Aston]

Hi Curt,

Saturday, September 09, 2000, 9:27:50 PM, you wrote:

C> Horrors. I recommended TheBat! to an associate for whom the program
C> was simply too overwhelming. So, she uninstalled it. It appears,
C> however, that the uninstall does not return file associates to their
C> previous state. For example, .msg attachments cry out for TheBat!

C> Any direct way out of this? I concluded that the simplest thing for
C> her to do was reinstall Outlook Express; that should, perhaps, reset
C> all of the associations.


Open Windows Explorer, find a *.msg file, Shift then Right Click,
select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always
open With".

Repeat for *.eml



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Re: UnInstall

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Curt, 

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 at 16:27:50 [GMT -0400], you wrote:
C> Horrors. I recommended TheBat! to an associate for whom the program
C> was simply too overwhelming. So, she uninstalled it. It appears,
C> however, that the uninstall does not return file associates to
C> their previous state. For example, .msg attachments cry out for
C> TheBat!

C> Any direct way out of this? I concluded that the simplest thing for
C> her to do was reinstall Outlook Express; that should, perhaps,
C> reset all of the associations.

Here is a cut and paste of the last answer I sent to someone on this,
and they said it worked for them.

**
Unfortunately, this is a problem not with The Bat!, but with OE. When
you install OE it asserts its association with .EML files. When you
install The Bat!, it also asserts its association with .EML files.
This is the normal way of Windows. New software associates itself with
the filetypes it deals with.

The problem is that OE does not detect that it has lost the
association, and therefore never tries to reassert those associations.

For instance, if you load IE5, it asserts associations with .htm,
.html etc. When you then later install, for instance, Netscape, then
Netscape takes over those associations. However, in this case,
whenever you remove Netscape, and begin using IE again, it detects the
loss of associations and asks if you would like to make IE the default
browser again (which re-associates the filetypes.)  OE doesn't do
this, and I have no idea why. I guess they figure that they are the
only game in town and nobody else would use the .EML extension.

You might try this.

- Open a folder on your hard drive.
- Select View then Folder Properties from the menu bar.
- Choose the File Types tab.
- Scroll down until you see Internet E-mail Message
- Click it once, then hit the Edit button.
- In the Actions box, select Open, then click the Edit button
- Use the Browse button to locate the OE executable, then click OK
- Click OK again, and again, and again
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Cheers,
Leif Gregory 

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