Re[2]: IMAP again
6/23/2009 s When you right click on the account in the tree view (the root node, s above the Inbox), there's an option synchronize all folders. That s might be what you're looking for. I don't dare to click on it right s now to test this, though. Thanks, simbabque. Since I have nothing much to lose, I'll give it a shot. I've discovered another problem here, which is that none of the changes made to the folders on the server seem to be updating in TB! - which means I will likely have to delete the accounts and start again :-/ I don't know what's going on here, but I haven't installed the new version of TB! yet- do you, or anyone, know if anything was tweaked which might affect this in a positive way? And while I'm ranging afield a bit here, is anyone running Windows 7, and is it playing nicely with TB!? tia again - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP directories
5/21/2009 L Can anyone think what happened to these two directories and how I can L retrieve them? I'm sure this is mindlessly simple, but I can't figure it L out. SC Right click on the account name and select Manage IMAP Folders. Once there SC select Reset list. You can then select how you want to manage each of the SC folders. Hi Stuart - That did it. I knew I must be missing something obvious! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 SC Are you talking about accessing the same accounts as IMAP and POP or some IMAP SC and some POP. The latter is possible for sure. [snip] Yes, I am and I did and it was simple and is working beautifully. This is why I won't give up TB :-) Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 DAC yes. start, i think, it's been ages since i did this, by creating a DAC new account, and pick imap, then it's just a matter of knowing DAC addresses for your servers, etc. It was just that simple, and didn't even make me chase server info! I love it when things work so beautifully! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 JF Yes, i have 8xPOP and 1xIMAP running, just create a new Account with JF IMAP. Yes, it went beautifully! Very easy! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Question
Hi Peter from the Danish Peninsula, home of the late Victor Borge, Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:37:17 AM, you wrote: Bob, On 10-09-2008 19:12, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: One of the last Mail Management pane items to be possibly checked is this, When inactive, disconnect after (X) seconds. Is it better to check that or to not check it when one has an always-on DSL connection? I'd not check it. It means that it disconnects from the server if you do not work with it. On xDSL there should be no reason for this. I was thinking of conserving bandwidth in the whole system. I think of IMAP as very handy (convenient) but perhaps using much more bandwidth than POP. Am I mistaken? And - does that mean that TB becomes active when I do something like select or open a message? If you have set the appropriate options under Automatically connect to server it will. Ok. Thank you for that informative reply. I appreciate it. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.0.34.1 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP vs POP
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on: Monday, January 28, 2008 at 11:59:42 GMT -0600 PK Cab anyone direct me to a website or somewhere where I can learn what is PK the advantage of IMAP compared to POP, and how to use it. SC Here is a paper on it, although there must be better sites for the SC topic. Ooops. http://www.cs.arizona.edu/computing/email/imap-pop.html -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP vs POP
Hello Stuart, Monday, January 28, 2008, 12:59:42 PM, you wrote: Stuart Hello Peter, Stuart A reminder of what Peter Kerekes typed on: Stuart Monday, January 28, 2008 at 12:42:34 GMT -0500 PK Cab anyone direct me to a website or somewhere where I can learn what is PK the advantage of IMAP compared to POP, and how to use it. Stuart Here is a paper on it, although there must be better sites for the Stuart topic. Thanks, but I think you missed (or I cannot see) the link. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Server settings
Hello Paul, Thursday, March 16, 2006, 10:39:21 AM, you wrote: Is it just me or are Paul's emails coming in unwrapped? I think you're right, however I am at a loss as to why this would be the case. Does this one wrap okay? I left it as is...still a little wide. If you go to Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor-Editor preferences you'll see the Wrap text at setting. I believe the most common and reader friendly around 72-74. -- Matt Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded
Hello Stuart and TBUDL, Monday, February 6, 2006, 1:52:25 AM, you wrote: Hello SL, A reminder of what SL typed on: Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100 S Hello tbudl, S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies S for my IMAP account. SNIP S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled. S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well. S The answer is doubtless staring me in the face, but right now I can't S see it... Stuart : It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings I would check as well. Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP. There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be fixed. SL: Update: I just installed ver 3.70.07 Message body is still not downloaded but the body IS donwloaded when I specifically/manually activate synchronise command ... Perhaps I should confine myself to 'lesser' email clients (Opera M2, Outlook Express, ThunderBird 1.5) which handle IMAP with no dramas ;-) SteveL -- Best regards, SLmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Professional Edition 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup-message bodies not being downloaded
Hello Stuart TBUDL, Monday, February 6, 2006, 1:52:25 AM, you wrote: S Hello SL, S A reminder of what SL typed on: S Sunday, February 05, 2006 at 17:17:57 GMT +1100 S Hello tbudl, S I can't figure out why The Bat no longer is downloading message bodies S for my IMAP account. I am not sure if this started happening when I S upgraded from Home to Pro (not sure). (...although it worked fine...I S think...when I tried Voyager...) S In 'IMAP Fine Tune', I have 'retrieve message structures...' enabled. S In 'Manage IMAP Folders' , I have sync mode set to Full Messages/All S Messages' and I have tried 'New Messages' as well. SNIPOLA S It is working well here for me (home and pro). These are the settings S I would check as well. S Just noticed you are using 3.65.03, which is the official release S version, I think. The current beta 3.70.07 is now working correctly S with IMAP syncing and is the best version I have ever had for IMAP. S There are still some problems, but message downloading seems to be S fixed. Hmm...I am now in the Voyager...and IMAP...with the same settings as in Pro ver 3.65.03 on my hard drive is doing the same thing...ie not downloading message bodies(unless I click on the message) On another matter, I note that the latest/current version of Voyager (which basically is a type of the professional version) is 3.65.02 (not 3.65.03) Later I might see if I can find the the beta version (3.70.07???) and try that... -- Thanks, Stephenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:49 AM Monday, 6 February 2006 Using The Bat! E-mail client ver 3.65.02 (Pro/Voyager...current official version). Win XP Serv Pack 2 etc... Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Issues
Hi Marek, On Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 10:28:47 AM, you wrote: MM reports 5500 and 5501 are not accessible, so nobody can confirm them. MM Did You set them to Private? Yes, although I didn't realise that you could do this. I can't see any way of changing this back to public though. Is this possible? -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Vili, Friday, July 8, 2005, 7:19:47 AM, you wrote: SC Could someone advise as to whether I should be using the following SC with IMAP in The Bat. SC Account/Preferences/Mail Management SC Root Folder _ SC For pre-defined folders use these IMAP mailboxes. SC Outbox _ SC Sentmail _ SC Trash_ SC If I use these what are the ramifications? V If you assign the Outbox, Sentmail and Trash to a server side mailbox V (from the pulldown menu) Where is this pull down menu? V , then these kind of mails (Outbox, etc.) will be stored on the V server, and not locally in TB!. I often see Allie talking about problems using a server side Outbox. I assume this is not a problem for Sentmail and Trash. V The difference is obvious, right? So, then you can see them from V everywhere. Yes I see that it would be useful, however, I don't think the Trash part is working correctly. It does not seem to delete as expected. The mail only seems to get marked for deletion and not deleted unless you specifically compress the folder. I think this is one of Tony's complaints. Also any insight on what the root folder is? -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin typed on: Friday, July 08, 2005 at 14:40:51 GMT -0500 Where is this pull down menu? AM Here: AM http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/menu.png Thanks, that is what I was doing, just wasn't sure if it was right. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP setup
Hello Allie (and original questioner), I often see Allie talking about problems using a server side Outbox. I assume this is not a problem for Sentmail and Trash. AM No. Those others work fine server side. Could you write me in private, Allie, what is the problem with the Outbox?It seems, that we will solve the counter/auto connect/disconnect problem soon (see my todays mail to TBBETA), so then I will check this Outbox problem out in details. Yes I see that it would be useful, however, I don't think the Trash part is working correctly. It does not seem to delete as expected. The mail only seems to get marked for deletion and not deleted unless you specifically compress the folder. I think this is one of Tony's complaints. It compress just fine if you have a continuous connection (dont use Auto disconnect after x time (Properties, Mail management) yet, we are working to fix that part, I think we are pretty close) and set Compress when changing folders at Account, Properties, IMAP fine tune. Also, when Managing folders (right click on the account name) set the Synchronization ON for all or your subscribed folders (I would suggest to set Subscribe and Synchronize for your IMAP server side Inbox, Outbox, Sent, Trash folders). This way for me, compressing seems to work fine. Mulberry (Tony's favorite) delete the mail immediately, that is why TB! is different for Tony... -- Vili Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:12:13 PM (675 Beats): What do you mean no option to search. You have all searching options at your disposal. For a full text search, i guess, i have to make a full sync - is that right? The search dialog doesn't seem to work since there's no progress bar to look at and it always claims the search is complete. However, if you wait, the matching messages eventually appear. Uncomfortable interface issues, I grant you. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Thank you, gotta give that a try. -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpxev96YSMH7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 3:18 PM +0200, you wrote: For a full text search, i guess, i have to make a full sync - is that right? Actually, no. It'll just work, but it wouldn't be as fast as if you had all message bodies locally cached. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Hold down the alt button while clicking on any item in the message list. TB! will list all messages containing the same message list element. So if you wish to see all messages from me, just hold down the alt button and click on my name in the message list. You can do the same for message subject, and the various flags. You may wish to see all messages with attachments. Just alt-click on the attachment icon in a message containing an attachment. It's a great feature. The quick search works by just typing in the message list field, the string that you're searching for. The quick search will do only message list searches. Not whole message searches. -- Allie Martin -=-=- Get the facts first - you can distort them later! p7sAR3j2tzm51.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hello Ralph, Monday, March 28, 2005, 7:46:40 AM, you wrote: RI Well, the only search method that works for me, is the alt-click-method RI (how do i return from those search results to normal view). The other two RI don't work. To get the quick search to work you first have to select a message in the list. In other words your main highlight has to be in the list area and not on the message itself or in the folder list. Once it is there if you start typing a box should pop up with the letter you just typed. The first message to match this letter will now be highlighted. As you continue typing the message selected will change to match what you are typing. In the latest beta, once the selection you are trying to find is typed if you push enter you will get a list of all matches only (much like the Alt+click method). -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hello Ralph, Monday, March 28, 2005, 8:20:10 AM, you wrote: BTW, I see that you're running a beta version, and a beta version that I simply couldn't use for IMAP. RI AFAIK, my version was is the latest release version... confused now... Yes, I believe it is. And given that fact you may straighten out some of you problems by getting the version Allie mentioned which was the last more or less stable beta that solved some of the issues with your version. (Note: your mileage may vary) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
On Monday, March 28, 2005 @ 5:58:04 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: This why the search dialog just sits there claiming the search was done and no matches found. You wait and then the matches suddenly appear. Ugh. This is such a bad feature. I don't know how many times I've closed down the search window thinking it just wasn't working. I only discovered this when I left it open by mistake and suddenly saw all kinds of results on my search. At the least it should say something like Querying server -- Matt Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hi Matt, On 28/3/2005 12:53 PM -0800, you wrote: Ugh. This is such a bad feature. I don't know how many times I've closed down the search window thinking it just wasn't working. I only discovered this when I left it open by mistake and suddenly saw all kinds of results on my search. At the least it should say something like Querying server TB! IMAP is built on the legacy of TB!'s POP support. As a result there are many issues like this one. Filtering and sound alerts are other aspects that suffer quirky or erratic functionality for IMAP. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- The pendulum has gone full circle. p7sLHmdKlkbWG.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP folders disappear
Hello Allie, Saturday, December 25, 2004, 5:47:07 AM, you wrote: I read your plea, but disappearing folders isn't one of my current TB! IMAP maladies. Sounds awful though and I can't think of what would be causing it. :/ Thanks Allie. This has really been my only real problem with v3 (so far). I did try using TB IMAP with a dial-up over the Christmas holiday, and it choked. But it seemed to only choke on this account (the one I use for lists) which has about 12K messages across 26 folders. And it was a simple matter of Aborting all tasks with the account - that is, no lock-up or anything. Not exactly ideal, but nowhere near the nightmare IMAP problems of the past. I am on the beta list watching IMAP develop, but don't have the time (or patience) to try out the latest and greatest. I'm grateful to all of you who do. -- Best regards, kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Tim, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 11:51:18 PM, you wrote: T I've had a similar problem. I was never sure if it was actual messages T disappearing, or just slow updating between TB! and mail server, as I T delete almost all my email as soon as I read it. But my impression was T that I was receiving emails and not getting an opportunity to read T them. Still the same problem. -- Best regards, VictorDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = ==Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 5 Total Clean Emails: 52 BayesIT guessed right 99.4% of the time My email is 8.77193% spam = Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP messages disappear.
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 3:09:56 AM, you wrote: RO Did you RO encounter that problem with the (not current) beta you used to send RO your first message or did you encounter it it with the latest release? Actually with both. And no SP2 installed. Al other IMAP account works well. When log on into e-mail account trough web interface b4 using TB, there are there. -- Best regards, VictorD Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - Triggering the filter.
[ Wednesday, September 15, 2004 at 23.22.54 (GMT -120min)] Chris, On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, at 22:05:11 [GMT+0100] (which was 15/09/2004, at 23.05 where I live ) you wrote: C Only me then? :-( C IMAP seems to work reasonably well, but when it comes to filtering, it C turns into a major show stopper. I have the same sad problem ! I have to work with IMAP and filtering is obviously needed. Nobody knows if some particular setting in the imap account can help to work better ? Thanks ^_^ JakeLM® [ http://www.jakelm.it ] [Powered by The Bat [3.0.0.15] The One Mailreader.] day-start midday day-end === 23.22 Time from your mail and my answer: 17 Min 43 Sec Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP account won't send
Thursday, September 9, 2004, 4:55:33 AM, you wrote: L Checking out v3 here, and have a really peculiar problem L with my IMAP account. It won't send mail about 3 out of L 5 sends, and when it fails, it doesn't even try .. that L is, I hit the send button, and it just sits there. It L doesn't even try. The account log doesn't show a send L effort, either. L The server is Dovecot, if that's any use at all ... and it L looks like mail comes in fine. MW Are you using a local or remote Sent Mail folder? Good question ... the sent folder has a little white rectangle on it ... ? On the properties page, the folder directory is default And it seems to have quit sending at all; it hasn't sent anything now since I posted the question, though I've tried several times. tia .. Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Wednesday, 8 September 2004, Allie Martin wrote: I've set to disconnect after synchronisation, and I've set When inactive disconnect after 1 second, and I even found and set in the connection centre Disconnect when session finishes. AM How often do you have TB! set to refresh folders? AM How often do you have TB! set to do periodic checking. On the most critical account, these were both set at 5 minutes. On other accounts these were set at longer times, using different prime numbers of minutes for each account (a practice I developed a few years ago to avoid too many multiple connections). AM Finally, how do you sync your folders? If the sync'ing is too AM aggressive then TB! will spend a lot of time sync'ing folders. I've had them all set on Headers only. Tonight I've changed some to new Headers only to see if that makes a difference. I suspect most of my problem is expectations. When I was using POP, I used to start up the computer, then go and do other things (make coffee) until my mail downloaded. With IMAP, I connect to the internet and almost immediately the message list shows all the new messages. So I don't go and make coffee; instead I click on the first message, and then have to wait for it to download, which may involve waiting for other tasks. I'm still downloading the same data as when I used POP (and therefore the download time ought to be the same) -- it's just a matter of when the download time occurs. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Wednesday, 8 September 2004, Allie Martin wrote: I've had them all set on Headers only. Tonight I've changed some to new Headers only to see if that makes a difference. AM In this way the folder will display only unread messages. I realised that just before I received your message. I had assumed that it meant anything already received would be left in the local list, and new messages would be added. Overall, I'm happy with IMAP and The Bat!. And having my mail exactly wehre I filed it from whatever computer I use is worth it. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP questions
On Thursday, 9 September 2004, Gabor Kovacs P. wrote: GKP Do you have a New mail sound played when you get a new mail GKP through IMAP? I don't know, I haven't yet tried to set that up. Playing sounds isn't a priority for me (although I admit I've found it very useful in the past couple of years). GKP Have you tried virtual folders searching in IMAP folders? Do they GKP refresh automatically? I haven't yet tried to do anything with virtual folders, even before I tried IMAP. I certainly have some ideas as to what I'd like to use them for if I find time to experiment. When I said I'm happy with IMAP, I meant I haven't lost any of the functions I use (which is a very small fraction of what The Bat! offers) and I've gained the advantage of connecting from other computers and having emails as I sorted them and (most important) having access to all the emails I've sent from any location. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Mail Not Loading.
Hi 9Val, Which synchronization method do you use? Are those messages huge? What says connection centre about your IMAP session? With earlier versions (including 2.12 and previous), I could reliably cause this problem by activating a filter, either manually or on new-mail arrival. The most recent beta does not cause it, although automatic filtering does not occur consistently. I reported it here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003103 -- Chris Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hello Charles, CMG Come to think of it, does TB! support the IDLE command? Not. CMG Does TB! use multiple connections? TB (in my configuration) uses CMG 4 connections to the imapd. Not yet. -- :9Val: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hi Kevin KA Most of the feature list works as advertised. I think you will be KA extremely happy with TB if you have some patience and willing to put KA in the time to learn. KA Hope this helps. Very much so! Your postings have been very helpful to me in reading. One of the problems Ive been having is how best to integrate IMAP into my every day useage since having moved from POP3. I like having messages stored in the file structure used by TB for POP, however the serverside storage and seamless usability from any machine is great. At the moment I have a 100mb quota on IMAP and my POP3 message based is currently 160mb which means I can't really transfer across so I currently move all messages from my IMAP inbox across to my old POP3 account. However I did experiment with uploading my message base to the IMAP server and got into all sorts of synchronisation and ghost folder problems (see earlier postings). Three things here: 1. A conversion facility to transfer a POP3 message base across to an IMAP server. 2. Speed was a real issue when synchronising 20 or more folders. 3. There seems to be a feeling that people would like syncrhonisation to be more obviously local storage. Cheers mike -- Mike Smith Many a good hanging prevents a bad marriage - William Shakespeare Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, at 00:42:44 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:42 PM where I live) you wrote: However, total IMAP functionality isn't quite there yet... Most of the feature list works as advertised. I think you will be extremely happy with TB if you have some patience and willing to put in the time to learn. You missed my point I think... I am a very experienced user of TB - I use it to manipulate all sorts of filters, re-directs, auto-replies, address list functions as well as plain mail handling - my point was: If I change to IMAP (all are currently POP3) will I compromise any of that functionality - I earn my living using TB! The reason for possibly changing to IMAP is: ISP is prepared to install IMAP. and I can then do all the manipulation wheh I am (frequently) away from the office and the main machine. But.. as I said - I cannot afford screw ups becasue IMAP in the event that IMAP's functionality or lack of?) compromises the email handling set up that I have spent two years refining and developing on behalf of myself and of clients. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hello Admin, On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:47:45 +0100 UTC, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu If I change to IMAP (all are currently POP3) will I compromise any of aacu that functionality - I earn my living using TB! If you earn your living using TB!, are you sure that you want to make that depend on beta software? Yes that was the conclusion I was just coming to as your message arrived. I have been trying the sort of filters I have set for POP accounts, on the IMAP account and basically they don't work! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hello Kevin, KA Actually, all the IMAP servers are local on gig ethernet. Speed is not KA an issue. I will admit some of the speed issues are the result of my KA TB settings. I have had so many problems with IMAP synchronizations, I KA finally flush all the caches on exit so, on the resultant start-up, KA everything has to be restored. I also have autosync turned on. But, it KA is still significantly slower than Outlook or Thunderbird. Well, at home I'm working with IMAP at 21.6Kbit dial-up. So speed is a really *big* issue for me. And I prefer to use TB! without any synchronization - I just walk through folders and TB! loads only UIDS and Flags (downloading headers for last 1000 mails from TBBETA is quite slowly on clients which load full headers) . After selecting folder I'm walking through unread messages and only they are loaded - no overhead. So... May be Thunderbird is faster on wide connections, don't know and have no possibility to test -- :9Val: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 21:08 your local time, which was Thursday, July 8, 2004 at 03:08 my local time, Allie Martin [AM] wrote; AM c) support for colour coding messages or support for extra flags apart AM from the basic read/unread forward/redirected flags. Currently all AM other labelling like colour coding, TB! flagging and parking are AM local. Move the message to another folder and the TB! label, flagging AM is lost. Only the standard ones are preserved. I added mail colouring to bugtracker back on 10th June and it's still showing as 'New' today. :-( This is a major part of managing my mail in POP and would love support of this in IMAP (along with a few other things )before I consider making the leap over to IMAP on a full time basis. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the * mean next to a folder? [etc etc] I got my knuckles rapped yesterday! If you're referring to our little exchange a while back... Weell sort of!! :-)) I wasn't being terribly serious and I understood where you were coming from - I do the same in similar situations I just felt a little miffed because I'd searched and read for three hours using Google and nowhere were there any answers to my particular queries. Anyway - no offense taken at all. From what I have read - email on te IMAP server stays there unless I specifically say 'bring it here locally'. Then I have a phycical copy on my machine. All the refs I've found suggest this has to be done using PP3 still - which doesn't make sense to me. SO... A: How do I get an actual copy of the email and, say, attachments on to my machine... and B: How do I know whether emails I look at using The Bat are actually on the server or on my machine? and C: I have many and several filters, auto-replies, groups, and other esoteric filter actions set up for clients' - is The Bat reliably processing these with IMAP mail? and D: I really cannot find the answer to this anywhere at all... I cannot change email addresses for my 38 accounts, they are connected with web sites for clients and email newsletter software etc etc. So, if I need to set up a new account to run as IMAP, how do I, for example, change [EMAIL PROTECTED] (currently POP3) to the same address as an IMAP account? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP - another specific query
However, total IMAP functionality isn't quite there yet... Aahh - now here's the rub... I need to know, before I jump - what functionality is NOT there. My problem is, not knowing what functionality is possible - I don't know what's missing. Will filter actions, auto-replies, auto-message using templates, address list manipulation etc etc work? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP query
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'What is IMAP' in Google Funny you should say that - cos that's what I always tell clients - ask Google first.. So I did already (I tend to use this group as the thrid line of attack: 1 - Help File/Forum / 2 Google / 3 Here) and the links I got were not helpful to me in relation to The Bat. I found an excellent site which covered tips and tricks for email which included a lot of stuff for The Bat and IMAP but was a little out of date. As for the Bat's help system - ha! I understand exactly how IMAP works - I am a web designer and the concept of local caching is not alien to me. I simply was trying to get a handle on how it looks and feels in The Bat. However, this is all aademic at the moment because I have to have new accounts to set up IMAP and I can't do that becuase the email accounts I have (35 of them) are related to client's domains etc. So - looks like I've now hit the brick wall of The Bat's otherwise stunning facilities. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Inbox STUCK!!!
Hi Peter, PO Quite some users are / have been 'complaining' PO about IMAP items. As you'r a beta user, I PO guess you'r aware of this. Yes, but how can anyone actually use it without such basic functionality as filtering? I spend all day manually dragging TBUDL messages to my TBUDL folder. PO FWIW, some IMAP items related to V2.12b6 which PO was made public some hours ago: Thanks. Hopeful about the new beta, I added a TBUDL filter, left your message in my inbox, and tried manual filtering. Same problem. Remove duplicates still doesn't work either (as always, duplicate messages are created in the inbox of the messages that were to be filtered). I have yet to know if the message base has gone wrong, as is usual. big, frustrated exhale. -- Chris Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP sent-mail folder
stored on the server. If I check the Sent Mail box in the mail management option dialog, and pick the sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, it causes outgoing messages to hang instead of sending. Where is your Outbox? Is it local or server side? It is local. The only box I'm checking is Sent Mail. I think I'll install Mozilla somewhere and try from that so I can see if it's my client configuration or something on the server end. -- Regards, Jake Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP 2.10.03
Hello Allie, it's weird i have tb! installed for imap on both my desktop and laptop and both give the same problem. Any suggestions on how to fix? Perhaps if I download the latest beta (what's the url?) Andrew Friday, May 21, 2004, 3:31:26 AM, you wrote: AM Andrew, [A] wrote: A Ok firstly auto filtering still doesn't work is that correct? AM Not yet, but it's being worked on. Hopefully it'll be up and working AM reliably soon. A Secondly after upgrading to 2.10.03 attachments can't be opened. A When I view my imap folders using Mozilla Thunderbird (which I A briefly thought might be better than TB! at IMAP) it can open and A save the attachments fine. For some reason TB! can't open the same A attachment. AM I don't have that problem though I do know that the experience with AM TB!'s IMAP can vary widely. Again, IMAP is being given attention and AM hopefully this sort of unpredictable behaviour will be sorted out. -- Best regards, Andrew Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP: Deleted messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, On 05 May 2004, 14:33 -0500 (05/05/200420:33 local time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an option to show deleted messages in IMAP folders; i.e. display with strikeout text? No. JA What's wrong with Browse deleted messages under the Folder menu? How about, it doesn't work? JA Okay, it doesn't show them with a strike-out through them... but it's JA there. It seems that displaying messages like this is the de facto standard. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.10.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.4 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQJlEmjknq5PWREYNEQIf3ACgoLn1spzE8saKqQNlK/HB3JmzQAkAoLKq EC3OEWsh9AD45ZOQSi9o/eQP =xFtA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP: Deleted messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, On 05 May 2004, 16:52 -0500 (05/05/200422:52 local time) Dave Gorman [DG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JA What's wrong with Browse deleted messages under the Folder JA menu? How about, it doesn't work? Works fine here... guess it might depend on your delete settings. DG After a re-filter of 32 messages, Browse deleted messages showed DG only 1 message. Mulberry showed all 32 messages with strike-through. DG Webmail showed all 32 messages with strike-through. DG The deleted messages are apparently in the IMAP folder flagged as DG deleted. Browse deleted messages just doesn't show them. Wow! You answered for me. ;-) That's exactly what happens here (and I'm using Mulberry and Imp alongside TB!) It even works with OE! - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.10.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.4 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQJlr7zknq5PWREYNEQK7UACeLPKnnhGSSYGNzHxoGnqKyQgbMeAAn3cu StXFRYLHIfjs013HR/Kgwdox =8/y9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Monday, May 3, 2004, 10:33:40 PM, you wrote: do FastMail and MailSnare actually forward the mail out? If so, why can't it be forwarded to a POP account in TB? CT Have a look at FastMail's features. Yes, I did that yesterday after I'd posted .. I often do things backwards :-) CT Go to www.fastmail.fm and click the compare plans CT link. The short answer is that you can use POP or CT IMAP with any account you set up and forward mail CT into and from your account; (POP only with paid CT accounts). Its web interface is quick and CT surprisingly sophisticated - I've been pleasantly CT surprised at how well it works. I didn't see anything that would forward anything to my account .. I think that it's one of those things you have to try if you want to know what it *really* does .. I'll give it some thought. CT Well, I live with TB and Mulberry daily. I like TB and its features CT but, in the area I now need, it just doesn't measure up. I hope it CT improves but I have reservations, unfortunately. The thing that's frustrating me is the inability to make folders to filter the mail ... Mulberry seems to let you do that, Tbird didn't. It's really impractical for me to use an account for anything much if I can't filter the mail ... am I missing something in TB .. ? Anybody? Or is it something on the mail server I need to fix? Thanks - Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 7:57:28 AM, you wrote: PF TB! filtering engine is being rewritten as it PF does not work for IMAP at PF the moment. PF Watch coming releases... I will .. thanks Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 11:07:12 AM, you wrote: CT This is straight from FM's FAQ - it's a one-off set up.. Thank you! Apparently I didn't read far enough into the FAQ ... sorry ... So that might be workable .. I might have to do some tinkering here. Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Sunday, May 2, 2004, 7:47:33 AM, you wrote: CT Hi Dave, nothing else I've tried comes close to TB! for most features, but IMAP has become essential, and perhaps I'll need to compromise in other areas to get acceptable IMAP support. CT Exactly my conclusion. I've lost patience recently and registered CT Mulberry which I'm using heavily for my domain/IMAP traffic. If only CT that prog had some of the nice features of TB I'd die happy. I just recently set up an IMAP account with the smtp (outgoing) specified, and I forward the IMAP incoming to a POP3 account, and set up a filter to change the colo(u)r option for the mail from that account. So I read the mail via a pop3 account, and send mail via the IMAP smtp server. So far so good. Jim Lady Seattle Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Monday, May 3, 2004, 10:42:50 AM, you wrote: CT I've just mentioned to Jim that FastMail or CT Mailsnare offer extremely CT good POP, IMAP and forwarding facilities for external mail. well, I'm looking at Mulberry, but ... :-( I'm really not keen on web interfaces; do FastMail and MailSnare actually forward the mail out? If so, why can't it be forwarded to a POP account in TB? Maybe I'll just have to live with TB and hope they get to the IMAP stuff rsn .. I'm really so spoiled .. lol! Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Dave Gorman Date: Saturday, May 01, 2004 at 7:41 AM Subject: Re: IMAP rules .. _ _\/_ o/\o DG Hello Jody, DG Friday, April 30, 2004, 8:17:53 PM, you wrote: do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat? DG No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this DG point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority. _ Sad ... because I for one would disagree with that choice. Is it just me or does the Exchange interface also need work? -- Jody The ULTIMATE security fix/patch for LookOut! and LookOut! Express ... The Bat! 2.10.03 ... Running on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 -- Thought / Fact / Joke of the day When I was little, in my backyard we had a quicksand box. I was an only child...eventually. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Hello all, Saturday, May 1, 2004, Dave Gorman wrote: do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat? No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority. new filtering system is under development and Stef is preparing it for new beta serie. Virtual folders were developed by other Ritlabs programmer, filtering system was not delayed by implementing them. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Question
Hello Allie, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 11:36:45 PM, you wrote: AM IMO, even at a basic level of usability, IMAP is definitely still a AM work in progress. However, I have confidence in the development teams AM abilities to optimize it and have it working well. I just hope the AM timeliness of development goes our way and the way of others who are AM interested in using IMAP. Well thanks anyway. I have no pressing need for IMAP at the moment, but Blogstreet lets me try out RSS feeds at the same time as IMAP. I have been following your trials and tribulations with IMAP and appreciate your reasoned responses and comprehensive analysis. The way the problems with IMAP crop up it seems there may be a likelihood that it is the difference with the IMAP servers that accentuate the problem. Is it possible to find out what server you are connecting to? Maybe we could create a list. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Question
Hello Allie, Thursday, April 22, 2004, 6:49:02 PM, you wrote: snip SC although this number seems to just accumulate despite the fact I SC have been using the Trash for deleted items. AM Deleting messages from an IMAP folder doesn't mean that they're AM actually deleted. They're just marked for deletion. Ah, this makes sense. AM Exactly. To get rid of that 400 count, you need to do an expunge AM operation, i.e., to really delete those messages that are marked for AM deletion. For transparency and consistency of the operation AM terminology, TB! calls the expunging 'compression' which is the same AM process in POP3 accounts. AM You can either do this manually, or have TB! do it upon exiting IMAP AM folders. For the latter, look at the account properties. Oh, if only it were so. I have tried manual and automatic Compress/Purge and neither get rid of the message count. SC What is the 4*? This is under the unread column, but I don't see SC any unread messages. AM This means that there are 4 unread messages in the IMAP folder, but AM TB! hasn't yet sync'd with the server. This is why you don't see the AM headers for viewing. This is actually very odd. I synch all folders and as I read the messages it counts down until I get to 4 and then there are no more messages unread. When it syncs again it shows the new messages and then drops to 4 again as I read them. Any ideas. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Filtering
Hi Allie, Monday, April 5, 2004, 10:15:25 AM, you wrote: AM I still use IMAP because it's really neat to use at home. ~snip~ AM The flexibility is addictive and I'm willing to use ThunderBird AM at work to be able to work with IMAP and TB! at home. This is the reason I am hoping that the developers are working on it. IMAP is great, and pop3 just doesn't do it. IMAP seems to be the future, and a solid implementation would be time well invested by them. -- Christopher Brown Code-Breaker Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP: filtering doesn't work
Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote: AAG Wow! Cool features! :))) Just read on thebat forum about IMAP AAG realization problem... Now i'm in depression... :))) AAG By the way, would You clarify, why, even after registration and AAG logging in a can't post new message there ? Where is 'there'? I don't understand. Which system have you registered and logged unto? -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using SB! Lite v2.04.5 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP vs POP
JR Would someone be good enough to explain the differences, JR advantages, disadvantages of IMAP vs POP3 to me? I am trying to better understand this myself. So far here's what I have, which is *none* of the tech details and just *a bit* of the usage differences. With POP your choices *for receive* are A) leave mail on server or B) delete messages when downloaded. This means if you check your mail from 2 (or more) different machines *only* your primary machine would be the one you want set to delete mssgs. When checking from other PCs you would want to leave mail on server so everything ends up in only the one email client on your primary PC. This works well with no problems. When *sending* using POP there is no problem if you send from your primary PC - BUT, sending from any other PC would leave you no record of a sent message. The common work-around for this is to BCC yourself. It works, but is hardly perfect. With IMAP the server is smarter. It knows if you are at you primary PC or not and if you send from any other PC it puts the sent mssg into your sent mail folder in your primary email client for you. Am I close? -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and Sorting Office..
ken green wrote: kg OK. Manual is better than nothing, I suppose... :) Yes. Read and replied filters do work automatically though. kg Not my experience. But I could have done something wrong. I will kg test this some more. How are you marking items as read? There are two ways a message can be marked as read. - you manually mark it read. - it's automatically marked as read as defined in the account preferences/options. Read filters will be auto executed only when a) messages are automatically flagged as read by your defined time delay after it's being viewed, and and b) you now move to another message or folder/account. If you manually mark a message as read and then switch to another message, the filter will not execute. kg I wouldn't mind making *ALL* filters (for my IMAP/non-mail accounts) kg Read filters. I set them up to work only when a message is UnParked AND kg UnFlagged, so as I read mail (all in Inbox) messages get moved unless I kg mark them. -- this is working fine in 1.62r, by the way. Hmmm. They work no differently for IMAP, so if you have them working for POP then they should be working for IMAP. By the way, if your connection isn't fast, then messages will not be moved right away but on the next sync operation. Try dragging and dropping a message to another folder. If your connection is fast, the operation should be immediately carried out as if it were POP. However, if the connection is slow, it would seem as if nothing happened. At the next sync operation, TB! will send commands to the server to carry out the move operation and then the folders will be sync'd to reflect the move. Could this be the problem with your read filters? kg What about folders that are not on the server? Are they kg automatically created during the sync process? I don't understand what you're asking there. How would a local folder be automatically created during a sync operation? kg What about folders set to NOT sync? It looks like moving items to kg folders not set to sync marks the item for deletion. When you move a message from one folder to another, the copy in the source folder is marked for deletion while a copy is placed in the target folder. The copy in the source folder is permanently removed when the folder is compressed or expunged, expunged being the IMAP specific term used. kg I will double-check that behavior, but that is what I want - if I kg move a message to a common folder for reference/archiving/etc., kg marking it for deletion on the server - only after the move - kg would be great. I don't have any common folders here, but let's try here and see. I have a slow connection here at work. OK. I dragged and dropped the messages just fine. I'm not surprised with this since the source IMAP folders are set to fully sync with the servers. As a result, I have cached copies of messages. The moved messages were removed from the source IMAP folders list, i.e., marked for deleteion, and if I choose to compress/expunge, they'll be permanently removed. kg Read filters and manual processing is good enough for me for now :) I kg can be patient if the read filters will work. I have not installed any kg betas yet (clean, fresh install of CE)... maybe that is why the read kg filters didn't work? Probably, though I do recall them working since I started using IMAP. I'd recommend trying the latest beta if you're an IMAP user. The last series of betas have been mainly bug fixing oriented, so they've been safe to use (is any software safe?). :) kg What do you mean by server side filters? Filtering done on the server. kg If you're talking about server-side admin because you have full kg access to your mail server, then never mind - I don't have that kg kind of access. Do you have web access to your IMAP account/s? Usually, if you do, you can create filters for web based e-mail accounts. These are the filters I'm referring to. Not very fancy, but could save a lot of trouble. I do have admin control of my IMAP server. However, all IMAP accounts are accessible via a web based client type interface. One can create filters from there. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.03.47 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and SpamPal setup
Hello ken, Monday, January 26, 2004, 12:26:42 AM, you wrote: kg FWIW, anyone setting up SpamPal on The Bat should shut down and re-start kg TB after setting up an IMAP server the first time. kg I thought it was an upgrade/latest version issue, but it happened again kg with the second IMAP account I set up. I would get login errors trying kg to connect to the IMAP server right after setting up the account. kg Closing TB and re-starting fixed the problem. What FWIW stands for ? Thanks for help. -- Best regards, Jeanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and Sorting Office..
ken green wrote: Try dragging and dropping a message to another folder. If your connection is fast, the operation should be immediately carried out as if it were POP. However, if the connection is slow, it would seem as if nothing happened. At the next sync operation, TB! will send commands to the server to carry out the move operation and then the folders will be sync'd to reflect the move. Could this be the problem with your read filters? kg Isn't this (the fast and slow connection) set in account kg properties? Those provide the suggested settings one should use when using a fast vs slow connection. However, you don't have to use them. :) kg I have it set for fast connection. RE: dragging and dropping to another kg folder - I will confirm, but yes, I believe the behavior you describe is kg what is happening. In the mail management setup for the account properties, do you have the 'autoconnect to server' options checked for all those options. In this way, when you do anything with an IMAP folder, a sync operation is done to update the server? I don't understand what you're asking there. How would a local folder be automatically created during a sync operation? kg When a folder is created, you have the choice of whether is syncs kg or not. If no, it remains local only, right? If it is synched with kg the server, it gets created on the server, right? I've been wondering about this. From what I've been seeing, it would seem that creating a root folder for an IMAP account leads to a corresponding IMAP folder being created at the server level. But then again, I only create folders at home and I do full sync's with all folders at home. Maybe this is why corresponding server side folders are being created. I'll do some testing later. kg Yes, I can *manually* move messages to common folders. I was kg trying to move messages to common folders with an auto-filter. Stick a pin! :) Now, I didn't realize that you're trying to filter from an IMAP folder to a common folder. I've never tried this and will try this later. Have you tried auto-filtering to another IMAP folder? I do that a lot and it works. TB! doesn't filter across IMAP accounts and may very well not filter to common folders. Can you manually filter from the IMAP INBOX to a common folder? kg I had set up a hierarchy of folders that were outside my mail kg accounts. For me, this was the best way to organize business mail kg as well as personal projects, because the source messages didn't kg always come from the same account. I didn't want my folders tied kg to a specific mail account. kg Perhaps this isn't a good way to do things when using IMAP? Perhaps not now, when the facility for auto-filtering to common folders hasn't been dealt with. kg Read filters are only working half-way for me. I can get the kg messages colored, but not moved to a common folder. I have bad news. When they're moved, they lose their colour change. :/ This problem is known and ways to get around this is being looked at. kg You are correct. I forgot about that. I actually set up a bunch of kg filters that way once before, but removed them because 1.62r wasn't kg synching folders properly and I couldn't download messages that had been kg filtered. But I bet v2 will utilize server-side filters exactly how I kg want. Hmmm They will work. However, the filtering can only be done to server side folders and not your local common folders. kg Server-side filtering is a really good idea.. It's great for me. kg Thanks again for all your help. No prob. :) -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.03.47 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and Sorting Office..
Ken Green, [KG] wrote: KG No. I had auto-connect for -managing folders and -when account is KG selected. NOT -by any command. Will try that and report back. Ok. KG At what point does the folder's synchronization settings take over? KG If a folder is set to synch and it doesn't exist on the server, KG shouldn't it then get created? Yes. This is the case. KG Or should it be created on the server first, or through Folder KG management, etc.? I just created a new folder and set it to not sync. I then opened 'Manage IMAP folders'. The test folder wasn't listed there. I hit the 'reset' button to refresh the list. The test folder was now listed. Interesting. But then again, I only create folders at home and I do full sync's with all folders at home. Maybe this is why corresponding server side folders are being created. I'll do some testing later. KG Not sure what you mean by at home or why that would be different. At home, my IMAP server is right beside me on the LAN. I don't have to wait forever for things to happen. I can therefore test quickly. :) The connection to my IMAP server from work is very slow. It takes a long time to create folders and move messages. I don't filter messages at work. It would take too long. All filtering is done from home with TB! or on the server. I only read and reply to mail from work. I do only an occasional message move or deletion. KG Actually, yes. I believe filtering to another folder WITHIN THAT KG ACCOUNT does in fact work. Will double-check, but I'm pretty sure that KG was one of my tests and it worked. Ok, good. So the problem is with filtering from an IMAP folder to a local common folder. This doesn't seem to be possible. I just tried it and more than I expected happened. I did the following: - I created a common folder - I then adjusted one of my read filters to filter to it. - I then moved one of the target messages to my Inbox and marked it unread. - I opened the message where it was marked as read and moved to another message. Not only was it not moved, but another message appeared with no visible headers. Only the folder flag was visible. On looking at the message source, there was a lot of gibberish. After that, the Inbox was stuck. I had to restart SecureBat! to free things up. On the next try at autofiltering to the common folder nothing happened. I switched back the target folder to an IMAP folder and it worked again. Strange bug. KG This explains why I cannot filter to common folders. By their very KG nature, common folders don't belong to any account. It appears that KG common folders and IMAP are not going to dance together. I can live KG with that. Ok. KG You keep mentioning manually filter and it is confusing me. Aside KG from selecting the Re-filter messages from a folder right-click I KG don't know how you would *manually* filter. Yes. That's the way to do it. However, that seems to be disabled in TB! 2.03 beta/47. GONK!! :/ It seems to be OK here in SecureBat! Lite v2.03.47 KG If you cannot filter across accounts, then filtering to common folders KG isn't going to happen. But if filtering across accounts will become KG available in the future, I don't see why filtering to common folders KG couldn't be implemented as well. Agreed. KG The problem I see with filtering across accounts is the heavier KG traffic and server load. Is it substantially more complicated? Other clients, namely Mulberry already have this ability. So I don't see why this shouldn't be possible, especially if the accounts are on the same IMAP server. KG The problem I may run into (and this may be because of the new real KG implementation of IMAP) is that for my business account, I have a filter KG that redirects messages to my cell phone, giving me a notification of KG when I get an e-mail. 99% of the time, the small amount of info sent is KG enough for me (my carrier truncates messages that are too long/too big). Without autofiltering, this isn't possible, so a TB! IMAP account would have you stuck. KG Also.. (get ready to roll your eyes...) I have been testing on my KG laptop, right? Well, guess what genius was testing on his laptop with KG accounts that were also being hit by the desktop running 1.62r... At KG the very least, this screwed up read flags. Who knows what other KG trouble this caused. I will remember to shut down the desktop while KG testing on the laptop. Note that with two proper IMAP clients this shouldn't matter. I have ThunderBird running now on this laptop. It's polling the same IMAP account that SecureBat! is polling as we speak. No problems at all. KG Assuming that (like me) most of that mail would not contain KG attachments, running into server space problems won't be an issue. KG It would be nice to access all of the TBUDL list I have downloading KG since joining from wherever I am. Wouldn't the initial sync be a KG killer? Yikes! Yes. It can be if it's a lot of messages and you're doing a
Re[2]: IMAP and spam
Steve Thomas, [ST] wrote: ST Yea, and deleted and re-added several times. I've also deleted all ST folders from the server and started over a couple of times - just as ST a part of the learning process. ST I still get access violations from time to time - no rhyme or reason ST that I can see at this point. Yeah. Those still tend to occur when deleting and creating folders using the Manage IMAP folders. There's no real pattern either. ST The main thing that bugs me right now is that there is no way to ST automatically compress folders on IMAP. The compress folders on ST exit doesn't work with IMAP. This has been fixed for the next release. You could wait for the next release or download and try the latest beta, then tell us what you think on TBBETA. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using SB! Lite v2.03.47 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and spam
Steve Thomas, [ST] wrote: ST I've never been a big beta person - though it seems that even ST published releases for TB are beta-like. ST But, if you'll kindly repeat how to get it, I'll give it a try. Subscribe for TB! beta downloads here http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ The beta downloads page is here http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ If you have things to share, or issues to discuss, please join us here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole process is in the TBUDL info site, the URL for which is in the list footers. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using SB! Lite v2.03.47 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hello Nick, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 2:07:15 AM, you wrote: NG Hi Batpersons, NG On or about, Monday, November 10, 2003, 5:01:14 PM, we have NG reason to believe that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NG a new version from my open source plugin is ready and hopefully NG working. Just download the packed file and follow the instructions NG from readme.txt (YOU HAVE TO SCAN SOME MAILS FIRST TO GET IT WORKING! NG THE INCLUDED DATABASE HAS NO NON SPAM (HAM) INFORMATIONS!!!). NG http://www.lkcc.org:8500/download/bayesfilter.zip NG === I downloaded the program and installed it in TB, but how do I make it scan anything? -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 11/7/03 Tested on: 11/11/03 9:15:31 AM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 6:36:08 PM, we have reason to believe that John Phillips wrote: JP Where should the Junk folder be placed? JP Or should it be installed automatically? (Because I do not have it!) JP I presume by marking mail as Junk, it is automatically placed in JP that folder? Under Options, Preferences, Anti-Spam, there's an option to use the Common Junk Folder; levaing it unchecked creates a Junk folder in each account in which spam is detected (I think - I've only ever had it set checked). The folder is created the first time the plug-in tries to put a message in it. You'll see that you can choose whether to put items identified as spam in the junk folder, in which case they're automatically moved, delete them (self-explanatory) or do nothing. Hope this makes sense. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP Status, BayesIt alternatives
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Tuesday, November 11, 2003, 7:51:32 PM, we have reason to believe that John Phillips wrote: JP BTW would a white list also be a helpful thing? That's a subject of much debate; if you're able to keep it up-to-date, I'd say yes. I don't use one myself: I'm not disciplined or organised enough to ensure it's always up-to-date, and I'd rather have a bit more spam than worry about false positives. I should say that neither BayesIt nor the newer Bayesian plug-in have ever given me false positives, and I get maybe 10 spams a week that they don't pick up straight away (as opposed to around 450 a week that they do pick up). The ones that get away are where the spammer's tried an new style/format: don't forget that a Bayesian filter needs examples to work from. If someone comes up with something completely new, it won't be recongised, and you have to tell the filter what it is. JP Is there such a plug in? I don't believe so, although ISTR some discussion about one in the future -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.26 on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and filters
On 10/21/2003, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ken green said: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that *no* filters work for you at all? Or only certain filters? I am using v1.62, which is limited in IMAP functionality compared to v2, but I am able to use filters with IMAP accounts. I beg to differ. What you are effectively doing is popping your IMAP account and filtering email in local folders. It's not really IMAP because mail on the server stays in the Inbox. You just move it around in your local folders. Can you describe the specific filters that aren't working? AFAIK, the only filter limitation with IMAP is Selective Download. I got excited about IMAP in v2.0, I stopped using IMAP, because it still has problems with managing folders and filtering email. But it's much better than in 1.62, so I am hopeful that by 2.5 or 3.0, we'll have it 100% right! :p -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- Only one shopping day left until tomorrow! --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP purging compressing
Hello Jonathan, JA Account, Properties, then Mail Management, then IMAP Fine-Tune then JA check the box compress folders when switching to another folder. Yes, I'm unsure exactly what that does because it has no noticeable effect ... it certainly doesn't purge the folders, which is what I'm after -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP purging compressing
Hello John, JM What is IMAP, how does one happen to get this type of email account JM instead of a regular pop account? I'm sure many people on this list could explain IMAP better than I. I've also read helpful introductions to IMAP on the web by typing in IMAP POP3 compared into google. Basically IMAP is a protocol which, rather than simply allowing a single-stream download from an inbox to a mail client, allows you to maintain the same folder structure, and exactly the same message store, between your mail client and your mail server. This basically means that your account as it appears on the bat will be replicated on the server so that when you log into its web-interface you will have things exactly the same as at home. One can also easily just download message headers, etc phew I have just switched to Fastmail, which looks impressivly reliable as a mail server, but I know myrealbox also hosts IMAP accounts. I guess it's most helpful if you need to use the web interface of your server a lot. Otherwise things aren't quite as smooth and seamless in the bat as with POP3, (as far as I'm concerned after a few days) mainly because of the synchronisation process, and, as I said in my original post, IMAP accounts need to be purged for moved and deleted mesages on the server to be finally sorted out of the folders they are coming from. AT the moment I can have up to 5 numbers in the Unread and Total columns combined of the message tree because the tree tells you how many messages in the folder on the bat and on the server. These figures don't match (between the bat and the server) until you purge the folder. But I hope the bat's IMAP will improve ... being the new protocol it will doubtless become more widely used. It has already improved a great deal in v2.01. It is now fully functional, it could just do with some refining. phew -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP converted to POP on install.
Hello Marck, -- Thank you so much for you detailed reply. One more thing: which metod should I use? a) convert any IMAP accounts to POP3 b4 install, or: b) delete accounts with IMAP access, and redo them again? Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:19:34 AM, you wrote: MDP Hi Olena, MDP @9-Sep-2003, 22:00 -0600 (05:00 UK time) Olena [O] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: O I read somewhere, that in new ver install IMAP folders will be O converted to POP. MDP Not quite. Before installing v2, *you* should convert any IMAP MDP accounts to POP3. O IS there then a way to convert them back? MDP No. The new IMAP handling is completely incompatible. O Or I'll have to delete accounts with IMAP access, and redo them O again? MDP Yes. -- Best regards, Olenamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and subfolders
Hello: It's my understanding (maybe erroneously) that not all implementations of IMAP allow for folder to contain messages themselves?? I'm using the University of Washington version that ships with Red Hat 7.2. JA That's not an erroneous statement at all. In fact, a very valid JA statement. This is why their is a \NoSelect option to reflect that the JA folder may not be selected, and may not contain mail. Does anyone know how to set up folders to contain messages themselves? Indeed this would solve my problem, and would even make my folder structure more flexible. :-) JA If you cannot setup folders to contain mail, then you are indeed JA looking at a bug in the implementation of the IMAP protocol. I JA believe Stefan is probably already working on it based on his comments JA earlier in this thread. It should be interesting to see how he JA manages to work out what IMAP servers require you to put in the folder JA delimiter to make folders that may contain subs, and normal mail JA folders. I think there may be a hint in the RFCs for it, I'd have to JA look it up. Thanks for all the help. I think that at this point, I'll wait until it's fixed. I appreciate the assistance. -- Brian Schang Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and delete/trash
Hello Jonathan, Friday, September 5, 2003, 1:37:38 AM, you wrote: JA Interesting. I had TB creating a whole bunch of folders on my Exchange JA server today. Deleted Items.1, Sent Items.1, Trash.1, Trash, etc etc. JA Ended up having to close TB, and resort to Outlook to fix things. Hmm. Interesting enough, especially because TB cannot create such folders. They may appear if you have folder with the same names on IMAP but defined service folders (sent, outbox, trash) to be local ones. In this case, TB adds .1 to the *display* name of an IMAP folder... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and delete/trash
Hello Clive, Friday, September 5, 2003, 3:04:34 AM, you wrote: CT 1. TB will not delete messages from their folder or from the CT server. Pressing delete does nothing. ST This may happen due to error in processing or because the destination ST folder used as Trash does not exist. CT The destination folder exists OK and I've pointed TB at it: CT inbox.trash. There's also a trash folder that TB sets up with the CT account (dustbin icon) but that doesn't seem to appear on the server. OK, in case you did not know - names of all IMAP folders but Inbox are case-sensitive. I.e. Inbox.trash and Inbox.Trash are two different folders, while inBox.trash and INBOX.trash refers to the same folder. I really hate this because it is a great source of confusion, but I understand the reasons of why it was done so. Could you tell me which folder exists exactly? In one of your previous messages I read about Inbox.Trash, now you are telling about inbox.trash. Moreover, this also may depend on the server how it treats sub-Inbox folders. AFAIK, some servers are really making trouble out of this making the entire name (instead of post-Inbox part) case-sensitive. CT Changing advanced options|mail management to mark as delete does CT no such thing. ST The fact that the message does not appear on the server as deleted ST is really strange - this works fine here CT Not here, Stefan. I've just deleted a message using the delete key. It CT disappeared from the message pane but, when I checked the server, it's CT still sitting there unmarked. This may be a function of Mailsnare - CT I'll experiment with my other accounts and come back to you. Were you connected to the server with The Bat! or you were off-line (taken in quotes because you could be on-line in global means but disconnected from the server). If you were off-line, you should connect to the server in order to commit changes in folders. ST You can start The Bat! with /IMAPTRACEfilepath.ext parameter to ST store capture IMAP session (note that it works only for one ST session at a time) CT Have I got the syntax right here, Stefan? The following just opens TB CT with a new message with imap.txt as an attachment. Target: CT C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /imaptrace c:\temp\imap.txt It must not contain space before the file path, i.e. it should be /imaptracec:\temp\imap.txt CT Where are deleted messages supposed to end up - assuming they are CT deletable in the first place? ST To remove deleted messages permanently, use the Folder|Compress ST menu command - this actually will get message counters in sync CT Something odd is happening here, then, because if I purge|compress all CT folders in my account tree it doesn't seem to act on all sub folders. CT If I select the folders individually the message count does, indeed, CT update as you say. How are you performing purge+compress? Currently, it should be done on per-folder basis, not from the Folder Maintenance Centre... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and subfolders
Hello Jonathan, Friday, September 5, 2003, 1:35:05 AM, you wrote: JA I'd have thought you would be doing a check for \NoSelect before JA checking the status of a folder. Or even building a view of what is JA selectable and what isn't on first login. Please add it to the BT so it's not forgotten :-) The \NoSelect flag can be detected, but it is not used right now... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and subfolders
Hello: JA I'd have thought you would be doing a check for \NoSelect before JA checking the status of a folder. Or even building a view of what is JA selectable and what isn't on first login. Please add it to the BT so it's not forgotten :-) The \NoSelect flag can be detected, but it is not used right now... What is the \NoSelect flag? Brian Schang Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and subfolders
Hi, Brian S. Schang wrote: Clive, Inbox Inbox.subs Inbox.subs.TBUDL Inbox.xxx Inbox.xxx.yyy So do Inbox.subs and Inbox.xxx contain messages, or are they just entities to hold TBUDL and yyy respectively? I have a similar structure and in my case they could contain messages, because they are regular folders, but they are empty... which doesn't bother The Bat! at all. :-) Why not do it that way? Antje Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and delete/trash
* Stefan Tanurkov: OK, in case you did not know - names of all IMAP folders but Inbox are case-sensitive. I.e. Inbox.trash and Inbox.Trash are two different folders, while inBox.trash and INBOX.trash refers to the same folder. I really hate this because it is a great source of confusion, but I understand the reasons of why it was done so. On my server there are Inbox.Trash and Inbox.TrAsh. But TheBat!'s 'Manage IMAP folders' shows only the first. I am not able to subscribe to both. (These folders existed before installing TB.) Second problem: Today after an clean installation of Version 2 TheBat couldnot find any imap folder existing on the server. I could access my folders after installation of v2b1. I hope TB leaves the state of confusion very fast. -- Torsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and subfolders
On Thursday, September 04, 2003, Clive Taylor wrote: CT Yup. Keep complaining. IMAP doesn't work well in this version - CT a big disappointment. I concur with that. The IMAP support is *better* than in v1.x by far, but it still needs more work. It's kinda sad that Outlook Express has very good IMAP support--yet TheBat does not (yet). :~( Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP?
Hello, The Bat User Mailing List, on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 17:56:43 GMT +0700 (which was 27.07.2003, 12:56 where I live) you wrote the following lines regarding IMAP?: TF Hello Martin, TF On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:09:09 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 16:09 +0700 GMT), TF Martin Schneider wrote: And as far as I understand Andreas he only asked why The Bat is not having a real IMAP functionality. TF I just saw that he can use IMAP on GMX with OE (as advertised by GMX), Yep, and I cannot use it with the Bat. Sorry for double posting, but my GMX spam filter must have rejected my list mail since friday. I changed my list subscribtion to another address now. I have not received any answer on my initial posting, but I take it that The Bat has not yet fully implemented complete IMAP functionality, right? Take care, Andreas -- My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de | ICQ#: 23060752 PGP 8.0 key: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/pgpring.asc - Mailed with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 - Well, the moral of the story, the moral of this song, Is simply that one should never be where one does not belong. So when you see your neighbor carryin' somethin', help him with his load. And don't go mistaking Paradise for that home across the road. - Dylan Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP?
Hello, Martin, on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 13:55:38 GMT +0200 (which was 27.07.2003, 13:55 where I live) you wrote the following lines regarding IMAP?: MS Hello Andreas, MS on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 1:13:53 PM, Andreas Schwartmann wrote: Yep, and I cannot use it with the Bat. MS Hmmm, that is strange. Sorry, ich habe mich mißverständlich ausgedrückt ... My message was formulated a bit confusing: MS Anyway you should be able to retrieve the mails with IMAP of The Bat MS in the moment. The difference is only that with The Bat in the moment MS you can't move mails on the server in another folder - or things like MS that which are basic IMAP features. That's what I meant to say. It works, but not in the intended way (accessing online folders, moving messages between folders on the server), but only in the good old fashioned download'em way. Take care, Andreas -- My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de | ICQ#: 23060752 PGP 8.0 key: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/pgpring.asc - Mailed with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 - Happily, Europe and Japan have remained mostly impervious to this dumbing down thing that engulfs the states. Audiences there are better informed, more enthusiastic and maybe most exciting of all, younger than ever before. - Pat Metheny Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi John, JP Will version 2.0 have news group reading capabilities as well? Not in version 2.0. However, because of similar nature of mechanisms used for IMAP support, adding news reading capability should not take much effort. It all depends on the priorities we are going to set when the 2.0 release comes out... :-) - -- All the Best! Stefan ...I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. - William Allen White, American journalist (1868-1944) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQIVAwUBPyPdlBdVrmjoEBv9AQHyFw//SS5S+pLESe3U26DrdKKrGr+cZaH3xe8H LJfN7cnLjSkwAWEg3mx8ooXFExeQZT+nu/G20MmEL92zvn3pGNWpWLxilWf5Yk60 ewgq/9ldxG0rZtnEFxhUFA93rljuHbrqsaVKSg1G8APVFNckuAH2EOooyu32qYz7 u26Dq6PM+4LE3zEhtz/NkEVJmAm5dXG3yPSN+zptp0h0dE9FiIW63PsC4g1Nl8ot zhEh3us57V/39+ewRmdQGDhO+jC0tQ9kaS5rOYf3Z8h4GUDCXw/7N0zbTtU8tPhh og01R6/+NpbQYKhFKgN6u3SzxRFppsGBajqhjXxqzUZkeP2oPn64NFwPzw1N7FDR oOHael6HTRaGSsBXlOAwPjy2AVI8iYR4DmKpSSFxCFJkbMwCVpfxdGIoRyf0cnFe 2RV0PJrIHML/0Nc51eZdU2YrvlLxplcaJw//YaKHeKxmlHcujlYnBYGIgmsvotTG 5F6LVuVc2B7ixo22hUHBnivgqGHhRX+/CvC1caHLLnf0hWgPq2JhbtZUhIyW/EI8 EoFe3JmB5ndgbspKx2v7t/6ZmV9FcvZQRf8uwyJWyiQgyjPYYxZA6unEzqjAkN6P xdGVoa8zcdJ6DEWjy9bFf01TewxPshg5dJhjbOR9SZAWzUunk17R1cqJugsbo7Zb 8A3EsZkxW6U= =ClOP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP?
Hello Thomas, Sunday, July 27, 2003, 6:56:43 AM, you wrote: TF I just saw that he can use IMAP on GMX with OE (as advertised by GMX), TF but does it also work with other clients? Why did they mention a few TF clients and said IMAP functionality for others will be implemented TF soon? Imap must be difficult to implement -- the Depart of Education within the state of Maine uses an Email server/client called First Class and Imap functionality there doesn't work well either. I had asked the developers about this and they claimbed that there are inconsistancies within the Imap protocol therefore making it difficult to implement. I found this a bit hard to believe, but in truth, most mail clients seemed to have gone through a difficult time when attempting to incorporate Imap functionality. I also want to comment that the problem is not specific to GMX -- I'm running a Linux mail server here with Imap access and am getting the same results as the original poster. Guess we'll just havg on for version 2. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Thomas, TF But one question remains: why do the plug-in and the tray behave TF differently? ;-) This is because the plug-in strips trailing spaces before signing accordingly to recommendations - because some MTAs/MUAs may strip then from the signed content making the signature invalid. When you do it using PGPTray, TB! does not know that you are pasting some secure material :-) Anyway, using PGP/MIME is recommended to avoid many problems (however, some other problems are expected, it's no surprise :-)) - -- Regards, Stefan ...Every heart that has beat strong and cheerfully has left a hopeful impulse behind it in the world, and bettered the tradition of mankind. - Robert Louis Stevenson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQIVAwUBPyQRnxdVrmjoEBv9AQFggQ/+MDfXq0zIG137efbbNWvGJrkNvP+i02wc mHdqchztQCTTvxSHjhrTyS4R2GnoOLWj4UE9qxokjDtqY0+apipHSUe8nBgM3HVl znbmXaZzBoROYRkxS2UKwnyXXTs+XrrAb1jAyT7BQnYbEV9UmvYWWniA/Co23LK3 I5TwIJFd7J8aOiermp6CDpTu0uPkN0Z9oab4BgOTseKZjCQZE74yCsLVCt4Yvcbp FDoLWo0mtdI+2yDGvsInMEK5OuEsh7CxA3Yy25LPSopODIdSFk3msexsyJWL7YyF rPfKvXdQl73sGr9+vNZx7huFF7v22VlYL6CHlGnVESLtHs2KKSeqPFGBHnQ+iak5 m55ivZNXnIA0FdXa4DTemi0bXsUwW3RTvEdhZBFXv2djEhnnSonCWlJ8dh3PTVOK VrppDGV0oNXi2DTaD7UddC9gSknOWIgtzX6Scitf5K4mqxc/OP1oABfLo4DK7HPf pYG70CatRJp86e+FTb/8USIP9w6pwNoII6O2yhzrHm/JwxTxPQs08Eh81zIJYrp5 qP7rXpsKenynlDuhus92eCTe0hYswovljscGtdRHxXv7QG1a/sTta3RDArEvoBgr Qiey9IxIEbRC1RpmdS6oj2mq4C3N4CqEqKxZfjYQmHFDk+j0all0gK4NCDaUzPCw 8vC9VqiqLdg= =EHet -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
geez, it's really cheap to get a fastmail.fm account.. i can't believe that access to an account would be a holdup. Not to mention, the free account has imap access according to their frontpage. I love using fastmail.fm for all kinds of things. Laura -- Friday, January 24, 2003, 8:09:27 AM, you wrote: MG Hi, MG I wrote last year in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GMX has proudly announced that subscribers with professional accounts may now also access their email via IMAP. Yet, they currently have it only optimized for Outlook and Outlook Express (newer Netscape versions may also work but they are not officially supported yet). MG For those interested: GMX's IMAP support has improved. It now also works MG flawlessly with Mulberry 3.0. Now if only the Bat would learn to speak MG proper IMAP. Anybody willing to chip in to get for the RIT Labs people MG a fastmail.fm account so that they see how good and useful IMAP could MG be? MG Regards, MG Markus -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Jonathan- If I remember correctly (and I'm not entirely sure I do, not being able to find the proper RFC at the moment) the authentication mechanism will fall back from MD5-CRAM to plaintext if both sides don't explicitly say they support it and try to enforce its use. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and GMX and the Bat
Hello Markus! On Monday, December 9, 2002 at 11:07:22 AM you wrote: MG Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Wait until TB!2 comes out first... The 1.6 series of TB has bad IMAP support ;) MG Very funny. This could become a running joke. Wait for TB!2 lol, Markus. Have no need for IMAP and GMX, myself, so I'm just following this thread for the fun that comes along with it. :) I do know it's a serious problem for those concerned--but a little December joy never hurts. g -- Mary Bull The Bat 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP mailboxes not being updated
Ok, thank you for the response and explanation, Tim. I'm afraid this is an immediate deal-breaker for me and TB, though. Now my dilemma is: how to resync my 153 IMAP mailboxes. bah --Tomki Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:06:53 PM, you wrote: TM Hey Tomki, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 2:47:59 PM. T If that's the TB default behaviour, this is a totally broken IMAP T implementation. :-( very disappointing. TM Yes, it has been on the wish list for a very long time. I have heard TM some rationalization though. [ TB is an off-line mail reader (get TM *all* your mail from the server and disconnect to read, don't leave it TM on the server) - ie pop3. And IMAP is more like an on-line mail TM protocol... I know, not really, but that is kind of how I recall the TM argument.] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: IMAP mailboxes not being updated
If that's the TB default behaviour, this is a totally broken IMAP implementation. :-( very disappointing. Thursday, June 27, 2002, 11:34:54 AM, you wrote: TM Hey Tomki, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 2:15:11 PM. T When I move mail into another mailbox in an IMAP account in TB, the T IMAP mailbox on the server is not being updated! I thought this T might be a delayed-write thing, but it's not even getting to the T server when TB is closed.. TM There has been talk that v2 will have better implementation of IMAP, TM but in the current version, it is implemented similar to POP3. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: IMAP, moving to TB
Hello Adam, Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 2:10:50 PM, you wrote: A Hello Tomki, A Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 5:00:36 PM, you wrote: T Hello, T I've just begun using The Bat! Version 1.60q... having a couple T problems. A Ok, sure. One thing first. Please don't hit Reply on a message. Hit A New message to start a new thread. Click View/View threads by A references to see where the message ended up in context of something A else entirely. Your message is like a ghost, people won't see it. Aaaah, got it. Thanks T I have a huge number of folders and messages on a local IMAP T server.. I filter into it from several POP3 accounts. How do I T get all these mailboxes and their messages to show up?? I found, A What is showing up right now? Well, when I initially started TB, it seems to have detected to top-level mailboxes presented by the IMAP server, but none of the subfolder ones. And in the folders that *were* loaded, not all of the messages are being shown, which is a real drag. heh I've added mailboxes in subfolders by going into the Message Dispatcher, selecting the mailbox from the dropdown, doing Global - ToggleFlag - Receive, and then Execute. That forces the folder to be created and loaded. The problem is that I have hundreds of these. I found the Add Mask.. but all the folders are already showing up in this view, just not in the main interface. Further ideas? Thanks! --Tomki T with great difficulty, the Message Dispatcher/mailbox controller.. T but it's cumbersome to do for hundreds of mailboxes.. and I seem A I am not sure what part is cumbersome you're referring to. A Try Mailbox controller, as you found. Now at the bottom, click on A Action. Pick Mailboxes- And pick Reset Mask. Now it seems to accept A all mailboxes it can find. So you can tick them off their checkboxes A however you like. I just figured this all out by trial and error, as A I found no documentation, and folks didn't seem to know about it. A I have no idea what Add mask does. A Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Tomkimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: IMAP!!! (not MAPI)
Bonjour Markus, Mardi, le 5 mars 2002 à 17h53 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 17h53 ici où j'habite), Markus Gloede =[MG] a écrit à TBUDL : MG IMAP support has even degraded in the betas. Folders other that the INBOX MG have become invisible. :( MG Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm also hoping for better IMAP support. Yes So do I. For me I have also a problem with IMAP with mail.netcourrier.com. CC doesn't want to close and since I'm in pop3 :- -- Bien à vous, Alexis Haeringer mailto:ginkyo[arobase]gmx.fr (alias ginkyo) Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1[arobase]ginkyo.org Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/44 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP!!! (not MAPI)
Bonjour Markus, Mercredi, le 6 mars 2002 à 10h32 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 10h32 ici où j'habite), Markus Gloede =[MG] a écrit à TBUDL : MG Are you talking about the Connection Center/Centre or the dispatcher? When MG using the dispatcher to browse through an IMAP account the CC remains open MG until you close the dispatching session (symbol of a crossed out MG computer). Thx you but it's Connection Center . When CC check mail of my account with IMAP, CC doesn't want to close But it's fickle/random bug -- Bien à vous, Alexis Haeringer mailto:ginkyo[arobase]gmx.fr (alias ginkyo) Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1[arobase]ginkyo.org Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/44 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP folders : what to expect ?
Hello Marck, bh Have things changed a bit about IMAP since 2 years ? MDP They have not. :/ MDP Right now I'd tell anyone that has an absolute requirement for full MDP IMAP and external folders that TB wasn't the vehicle for them and to MDP look at something like Mulberry. Thanks for pointing me this software, Mulberry seems to have the functionnalities I needed. I still hope full IMAP support will be implemented in the future, so i could return to TheBat... maybe before 2 more years ? -- boris[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP and receiving all new messages automatically
Hi again! You know, most ISP suck one way or the other. I suggest that you get an account from a public site and ask them to forward your e-mail there (they shouldn't have trouble with that, actually they will love that you aren't using up their harddrive space). I.e. Yahoo! Mail can accept enough e-mails, then you can download from POP (that's what I'm doing), they have a small quota but it doesn't matter if you are downloading locally your e-mail on a regular basis. I think Hotmail also allows that. Nothing beats having e-mail locally, especiall for mail lists, it's great to do searches. Roberto -- Roberto Machorro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, November 02, 2001, 12:36:08 AM, you wrote: TS Hello Roberto, TS on Freitag, 2. November 2001 04:11:42 you wrote: AFAIK IMAP doesn't download your messages, it just gets the list of messages and you download/get them on the fly. It's all stored and done in the server. TS Thanksfor your explanation, but I already knew the TS advantages/disadvantages of IMAP. The sad point is that my email TS provider allows 10 MBytes or 500 messages on their servers, whatever TS comes first. If I want to be subscribed to the linux kernel mailing TS list (about 200-400 messages per day) I have to retrieve all messages TS to TheBat's local folder. I don't want to select messages on the TS server I just want ALL messages retrieved without manually operating TS the mail dispatcher. That's the theoretical part of it. I no longer use IMAP, and have always used POP3 with TB, so I don't know how the IMAP support is or how it words on it. TS Until now I could use POP3 with my account but my provider had TS problems with his POP3 support. So I switched to IMAP with the opinion TS that this protocol is superior to POP3 and that TheBat should provide TS more functionality with IMAP. In reality it seems to be less. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP folders and existing messages
Tuesday, October 02, 2001, 9:55:40 PM, you wrote: DC BAT seems like a good mail tool, but unless the IMAP implementation is DC fixed, I won't be using. Yep it seems to be the best POP3 mail tool that I've found but I have 75+ users that need IMAP4 soon. -- Vince -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP folders and existing messages
On Tuesday, October 02, 2001 , Roman wrote the following in regards to: [IMAP folders and existing messages] . R On Tuesday, October 02, 2001, 02:24:19, David Corbin wrote: I use an IMAP server, and while BAT detects new messages that show in up various IMAP folders (including the Inbox), it doesn't download messages athat are in the folder and marked previously read. Is there something I've done wrong for this to happen? I really need to show me all the messages that are on the server. R Hi David, R seems there aren't very many people who use IMAP. A friend of mine who I R recommended TB to is testing IMAP support aswell but got the same problems R you described. I myself use POP3. Have you found a solution yet? R Anyways, is anyone on this list using IMAP? Yes, I do, but TB does not really support IMAP4, it supports email access through port 143 and that's it. It does not support the mail management. If IMAP4 is required, either use Eudora [works great] or Outlook Express [works well]. R Roman . [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 Technical information on Windows and networking http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2001 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: IMAP?
I tried using the Message Dispatcher, still no mail. Does anyone else have any suggestions on using IMAP mail? Regards, CJ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: IMAP?
No, it just says connecting, login okay, then nothing. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: IMAP?
I did set it up as a regular Pop3 account, then just changed it from pop3 to imapno luck. For now til I found a work around, I'm just leaving the messages on the server so the rest of the staff can get to them as well. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: IMAP?
Thanks, but it is set to regular. I think I'll just leave it as a pop3 and leave the messages on the server:o) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: imap folders
Morning Steve Lamb, And Eudora. Not that the implementation of any of them is worth anything. I have a sneaking suspicion that the implementation of TB!'s IMAP may be just as bad considering noone has really gotten it right, yet. Looking around a little: Mulberry, a client that supports exclusively IMAP and is supposed to be good at it. (Windows/Mac, Shareware, ca. $40) http://www.cyrusoft.com/ -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build A :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: imap folders
Morning Steve Lamb, o MDI application Okay, kindly explain: What is MDI / what does it stand for? As, frankly, I don't know. -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build A :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
