Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Dwight A Corrin wrote: On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: I've brought that up in the past, and it sounded like that was by design, despite the fact that one might not want or need to put anything into the To: field (say, for instance, it's filled in already). -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Now comes the bit that always used to work: For what it's worth, this key bit of information was not present in earlier messages. If it is literally the case that it used to work, and then you changed nothing and now it doesn't work, well, that's not good. Since this case is highly unlikely, it might be worth pondering what you have changed since it worked. Did you upgrade to a newer version of TB? Did you upgrade anything else? -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... Ok, none of your previous messages have done this. Try a template without a line that clears the %From first; such a line is unnecessary as you can't have a message from more than one address anyway. -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Now comes the bit that always used to work: For what it's worth, this key bit of information was not present in earlier messages. If it is literally the case that it used to work, and then you changed nothing and now it doesn't work, well, that's not good. Since this case is highly unlikely, it might be worth pondering what you have changed since it worked. Did you upgrade to a newer version of TB? Did you upgrade anything else? I cannot be sufficiently precise on that - things change all the time here. I have recently upgraded to 3.62.14 but it could have started not working before that. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... Ok, none of your previous messages have done this. Try a template without a line that clears the %From first; such a line is unnecessary as you can't have a message from more than one address anyway. Been there, done that, no diff -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vestibule ( I came, I saw, I hid in the closet ) The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDTMpiH6B0j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. Yes I was thinking that might be it. Do I need to remove regsitry keys? If yes - where can I find a guide to which ones they are? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:38:27 +GMT (18-11-2005, 10:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Been there, done that, no diff Apparently something's gone corrupt in your installation. Create a full internal backup with TB. Uninstall TB Install TB again Restore your backup. OK - stripped everything out - uninstall, deleted registry key, moved message storage folder, deleted Program files folder (after uninstall). Re-installed. Same problem! So evidently I have some setting somewhere, some filter somewhere, somethign somewhere that is over-riding the common folder templates. The question is: where to start looking? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:19:41 +GMT (18-11-2005, 11:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG Do I need to remove regsitry keys? If yes - where can I find a MG guide to which ones they are? When you're running TB from an Windows admin account, TB will strip the registry during the uninstall. When you're running TB from a user account (which you can't use for uninstalling) you need to strip it yourself, everything in the tree: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! -- Groetjes, Roelof May we kiss those we please, and please those we kiss. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpn482NbYwE4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 4:56:24 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... Not long winded, just more complete and explicit. I created a common folder and populated it with some messages. Gave the folder an indentity. Created a reply to one of the messages, which used the reply template from the proper account. I readdressed the reply to one of my accounts, and sent it. It showed up in the sent folder of a different account than the identity account, but when I got it back it had all the right headers. It was labeled as from the chosen account, and had the correct reply to address. I think that means that I was unable to recreate the problem you described, and I think what I tried parallels what you are trying to do? (I did all this in POP, not in IMAP) -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 4:56:24 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... Not long winded, just more complete and explicit. I created a common folder and populated it with some messages. Gave the folder an indentity. Created a reply to one of the messages, which used the reply template from the proper account. I readdressed the reply to one of my accounts, and sent it. It showed up in the sent folder of a different account than the identity account, but when I got it back it had all the right headers. It was labeled as from the chosen account, and had the correct reply to address. I think that means that I was unable to recreate the problem you described, and I think what I tried parallels what you are trying to do? (I did all this in POP, not in IMAP) So - just to double-check: the email was in a COMMON FOLDER which had its own identity? you created a reply to it? the created email acquired (before sending) the FROM NAME, FROM ADDRESS, REPLYTO ADDRESS as set in that COMMON FOLDER's identity? Any signature set for that COMMON FOLDER template was acquired by the created reply before sending)? Do you have an account set as the default for mailto URLs? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Friday, November 18, 2005, 6:41:45 AM, Marten Gallagher wrote: So - just to double-check: the email was in a COMMON FOLDER which had its own identity? yes you created a reply to it? yes the created email acquired (before sending) the FROM NAME, FROM ADDRESS, REPLYTO ADDRESS as set in that COMMON FOLDER's identity? yes Any signature set for that COMMON FOLDER template was acquired by the created reply before sending)? yes Do you have an account set as the default for mailto URLs? yes. A different one than I thought, and the one through which the message was actually sent. So worked even more like it should have than I thought. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Friday, November 18, 2005, 6:41:45 AM, Marten Gallagher wrote: yes. A different one than I thought, and the one through which the message was actually sent. So worked even more like it should have than I thought. Hmmm... it is now more mysterious - or perhaps if someine knows what theey're doing - less mysterious: A new message from a common folder fails to acquire the idientity as set and fails to use the template as set. A reply or a forward of a message in the same common folder DOES acquire the identity and the template! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Tom Plunket everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 09:22 you (Tom Plunket) wrote: On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: I've brought that up in the past, and it sounded like that was by design, despite the fact that one might not want or need to put anything into the To: field (say, for instance, it's filled in already). I don't know if its really necessary to add another check if the TO field is not yet empty and jump to the subject or maybe mail body then... you may just as well add another recipient, or a CC recipient... or... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you tell the boss you were late for work because you had a flat tire, the next morning you will have a flat tire. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 00:01 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: The ACCOUNT details and SUGNATURE that are used for all emails going out - whatever templates and identotied are set in COMMON FOLDERS - is the details and signatures for the ACCOUNT which is currently set as the DEFAULT for mailto URLs - or if no account is set as the default, then it is the account that was last checked as the default even though it may be no longer. This is a bug. The folder template of a common folder is simply not applied when the common folder is selected and I press CTRL+N, and thats wrong. And it doesn't use the identity that is configured in the folder properties either. The identity is only used for replies, not for new messages. Please add your confirmations to this bugtracker entry I just created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The Unspeakable Law: As soon as you mention something; if it is good, it goes away. if it is bad, it happens. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 00:01 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: The ACCOUNT details and SUGNATURE that are used for all emails going out - whatever templates and identotied are set in COMMON FOLDERS - is the details and signatures for the ACCOUNT which is currently set as the DEFAULT for mailto URLs - or if no account is set as the default, then it is the account that was last checked as the default even though it may be no longer. This is a bug. The folder template of a common folder is simply not applied when the common folder is selected and I press CTRL+N, and thats wrong. And it doesn't use the identity that is configured in the folder properties either. The identity is only used for replies, not for new messages. Please add your confirmations to this bugtracker entry I just created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. This didn't used to happen - anyone know which version/revision introduced this bug? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. It was not in vain. You found a bug, that happens. TB goes thru heavy changes underneath the surface currently. This didn't used to happen - anyone know which version/revision introduced this bug? I tried with 3.0.2.10 (the last 3.0 beta) and it works there. So it should work in 3.0.1.33 (the last 3.0 stable). I don't have anything in between these and the current 3.62.14 stable here to test it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Schnitzl'd In The Negev (4:17) by Shpongle from the 1995 album 'Nothing Lasts' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: So I have just spent a whole day chasing this - trying to find what I had done wrong. It was not in vain. You found a bug, that happens. TB goes thru heavy changes underneath the surface currently. Well I wish had faith that it will be corrected quickly. DO you think it might be? Otherwise I am going to have change all my filters and set up a cut and paste system to put the correct details in 50% of the emails I send! That will tak a few hours to get right. What do you think the chances of this being corrected within a week, say? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 19:41 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: What do you think the chances of this being corrected within a week, say? Sorry, I really don't know. My crystal ball is defective. :-) Before going thru the hassle of changing your setup a lot, you can revert to 3.0.1.33 where the functions works (maybe someone else has a more recent version to check if it worked it the 3.5.x series). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Mentalism (2:54) by Shpongle from the 1995 album 'Nothing Lasts' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders template identity are not used for new messages (was: ReplyTo etc Macros problem)
Hallo Alexander, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:45:37 +0100GMT (18-11-2005, 19:45 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ASK Before going thru the hassle of changing your setup a lot, you can revert ASK to 3.0.1.33 where the functions works (maybe someone else has a more recent ASK version to check if it worked it the 3.5.x series). Okay, I created a common folder and performed some tests (only folder identity in a new message) 3.0.2.10 was fine 3.51.5 was fine 3.60.07 was fine I had no other versions ready to use and I almost know for sure that 3.60.07 was a public release and no beta. I've still got the .msi available over here and there must have been a reason that I still have the executable in my TB program directory, so I guess it was stable (or followed by something real buggy in the beta series g). -- Groetjes, Roelof Facts are stubborn things. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgptnlopPmkZn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ReplyTo etc Macros problem
I am webmaster for a number of clients. For each I use the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a separate folder for mail in and out for each of those. The templates for each folder (Message / Reply / Forward) are customised appropriately for each client. i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah blah When I send mail using the templates I have tried the various macros: %reply / %replyto / %fromname / %fromaddr etc etc with the intention of ensuring that the headers actually say: From Domain Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. They all send and receive through my POP3 account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and filters do the sorting of both incoming and outgoing mail. However, no matter what combination of macros I use, the outgoing is still labelled as FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot use address book templates because the otugoing emails could be going to anyone. Any thoughts? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Admin, I am webmaster for a number of clients. For each I use the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a separate folder for mail in and out for each of those. snipped quite a bit Have you tried setting a different Identity in the Properties of each folder? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Admin, I am webmaster for a number of clients. For each I use the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a separate folder for mail in and out for each of those. snipped quite a bit Have you tried setting a different Identity in the Properties of each folder? Yes all those entries are as they should be - i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc etc -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: The templates for each folder (Message / Reply / Forward) are customised appropriately for each client. i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blah blah I had the same problem, but somewhat in reverse. I have email coming into a number of addresses @fancy.org, although I don't even sort them into various mailboxes. However, I do want to reply with the address that was sent out to limit my spam exposure to the various companies (e.g. when I order something from Amazon, I use [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Here's what I do (among other things): %SetPattRegExp=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %VarName=%RegExpMatch=%OToAddr %if:%VarName:%From=Tom Plunket %VarName: So, you'll want to edit it to be: %SetPattRegExp=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %VarName=%RegExpMatch=%OToAddr %if:%VarName:%From=Webmaster %VarName: This is in my account properties' Reply template. Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also set this line in the New Message template for those folders, so any time you create a new message when those folders are active get the right From address... Good luck, -tom! -- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Admin at AK everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 15:42 you (Admin at AK) wrote: However, no matter what combination of macros I use, the outgoing is still labelled as FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you send one of the templates to the list so we can have a look at them? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Marten Gallagher wrote: Alternatively, you could just set the following in your per-folder reply templates (but it's more to manage): %From=Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also set this line in the New Message template for those folders, so any time you create a new message when those folders are active get the right From address... That's what I'm doing - I obviously wasn't clear in my original message. It doesn't work here... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Admin at AK everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 15:42 you (Admin at AK) wrote: However, no matter what combination of macros I use, the outgoing is still labelled as FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you send one of the templates to the list so we can have a look at them? %QUOTES %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for BSRLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bsrlm.org.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management %FROMNAME=Marten Gallagher %FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] +++ -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 18:30 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: %FROMNAME=Marten Gallagher %FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %REPLYADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think TB will add the information to the headers if you don't clear them first. Try to first clear the existing fields like this: %FROMADDR=%- %FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] The %- is only there to remove the linebreak enhance readability, you could write %FROMADDR=%FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] just as well. If the reply-to address is the same as the from address, you don't need to specify it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The land belongs to the future... we come and go, but the land is always there. -- Willa Carter Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:30:51 +GMT (17-11-2005, 18:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MG %FROMNAME=Marten Gallagher MG %FROMADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] MG %REPLYADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure that's how it's supposed to work? I thought %FromName inserted the From name in the message body. Just try %From='Name address' You don't need to add the Reply-To unless you're inserting your a Reply-To in your account profile, but when you do so, you need to use the macro: %ReplyTo=address The %ReplyAddr macro inserts something in the body. -- Groetjes, Roelof He says a thousand pleasant things, but never Adieu. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgppLQoYOXWSH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
You don't need to add the Reply-To unless you're inserting your a Reply-To in your account profile, but when you do so, you need to use the macro: %ReplyTo=address The %ReplyAddr macro inserts something in the body. OK - so I combined the two theories: +++ %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for BSRLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bsrlm.org.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management %FROM=%- %FROM='Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ But it still doesn't work. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
OK - so I combined the two theories: +++ %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for BSRLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bsrlm.org.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management %FROM=%- %FROM='Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +++ But it still doesn't work. I have now realised that %CURSOR and the signature is being ignored as well - the cursor should be in the body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. Therefore I conclude that the template macros are being ignired altogether. Is there a 'switch' I need to 'switch' or is it just broken? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Marten Gallagher Marten Gallagher Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:48:36 +GMT (17-11-2005, 20:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG I have now realised that %CURSOR and the signature is being MG ignored as well - the cursor should be in the MG body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. Therefore I MG conclude that the template macros are being ignired altogether. What editor are you using? With MicroEd I've got no problems whatsoever. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannot open file E:\Batmail\t-shirt.txt The Bat! 3.63.2.0 BETA Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hallo Marten, On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:48:36 +GMT (17-11-2005, 20:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG I have now realised that %CURSOR and the signature is being MG ignored as well - the cursor should be in the MG body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. Therefore I MG conclude that the template macros are being ignired altogether. What editor are you using? With MicroEd I've got no problems whatsoever. MicroEd - as far as I know - it's the in built plain text editor. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 1:48:36 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: the cursor should be in the body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. No, when you start a new message, the cursor should be in the TO: field, so you can insert an address. You should be able to tell whether the signature part of the template is working, because there will either be or not be the signature there. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Dwight, I created an automatic reply from another account recently as follows: Mail for my hockey account now comes to me rerouted through my gmail account. I have sorting rules for subscribe and unsubscribe, and If I get a subscribe message the sorting office does various things. The last thing it does is to generate an automatic reply and this is the template it uses. If I didn't specify @ACCOUNT, the mail would be sent from the gmail account, which I don't want. Hope this helps! %ACCOUNT=Hockey Beste %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor Uw adres is toegevoegd aan de HVM adressenlijst -- Redactie HVM - -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 1:48:36 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: the cursor should be in the body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. No, when you start a new message, the cursor should be in the TO: field, so you can insert an address. You should be able to tell whether the signature part of the template is working, because there will either be or not be the signature there. Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Dwight, I created an automatic reply from another account recently as follows: Mail for my hockey account now comes to me rerouted through my gmail account. I have sorting rules for subscribe and unsubscribe, and If I get a subscribe message the sorting office does various things. The last thing it does is to generate an automatic reply and this is the template it uses. If I didn't specify @ACCOUNT, the mail would be sent from the gmail account, which I don't want. Hope this helps! %ACCOUNT=Hockey Beste %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor Uw adres is toegevoegd aan de HVM adressenlijst -- Redactie HVM - I don't have any problem with Accounts - i.e: where I have a separate POP account and thenusual set of Inbox/Outbox etc folders within it. So for example I have a POP account [EMAIL PROTECTED] - but because I had problems with TB and POPFile checking more than a few POP accounts, I get all those type of emails redirected by the server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Filters then act on them as they arrive and send them to the appropriate folder (no t accounts). The problem I have is with folders that are outside an account which receive their mail filtered through one account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to the relevant folder as described above. I used to highlight the single folder and click the write a new message button and the templates set for that folder would create the message as if it came from (using the above example) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is, as stated above a valid POP account). Now these templates are universally ignired when in folders, but OK in accounts. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 21:36 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: the cursor should be in the body of the message but is in the TO field when I start a new message. No, when you start a new message, the cursor should be in the TO: field, so you can insert an address. You should be able to tell whether the signature part of the template is working, because there will either be or not be the signature there. Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! I just tried this with a folder that has a folder template and can't confirm that. When I use CTRL+N to start a new message, the folder template is applied, but the cursor is on the input box for the TO field. Then I tab down thru the rest of the headers to the body, and only then the cursor jumps to the position where the %CURSOR macro was placed in the template. Different thing when you're replying, in that case the TO field is already filled. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
When I use CTRL+N to start a new message, the folder template is applied, but the cursor is on the input box for the TO field. Then I tab down thru the rest of the headers to the body, and only then the cursor jumps to the position where the %CURSOR macro was placed in the template. Different thing when you're replying, in that case the TO field is already filled. :) Oh silly me - you're right - I was thinking of the reply template - sorry. Now back to my puzzle. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 21:45 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: folders that are outside an account You mean common folders? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The universe is perfectly harmonious. if we seek to find the source of any conflict, we need only look within. -- Patrick Douglas Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 21:45 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: folders that are outside an account You mean common folders? I have never understood the term 'common folders'. They are folders I have created using Folder Folder etc They don't get subfolders automatically like account folders do. They are not virtual folders, they are not the standard folders that get created as a set when a new account is created. They are simply folders I have created to store things in. Does that make them 'common' - I always assumed 'common fodlers' were the ones that were automatically created as sub-folders of an account when a new account was created. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
Hello Marten Gallagher everyone else, on 17-Nov-2005 at 22:10 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote: folders that are outside an account You mean common folders? I have never understood the term 'common folders'. Common means they are not attached to an account. They are shown outside the account structure. Account1 Inbox Subfolder1 Subfolder2 Outbox Sent Mail Account2 Inbox ... Common Folder1 Common Folder2 etc. They are folders I have created using Folder Folder etc They don't get subfolders automatically like account folders do. When I do that and the cursor is placed on a common folder, the new folder becomes a subfolder of the common folder. But I do not know how to keep normal folders (inside an account) and common folders apart, except from their position in the list of accountsfolders. :) Does that make them 'common' - I always assumed 'common fodlers' were the ones that were automatically created as sub-folders of an account when a new account was created. No, those are account folders. Its the other common. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Under tension, a chain will break at its weakest link. That much is predictable. What is difficult is to identify the weakest link before it breaks. -- Gregory Bateson Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 2:36:09 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! are you saying that presence of the %corsor macro kills the signature? On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 2:36:09 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: Unless the %CURSOR macro is in the template! are you saying that presence of the %corsor macro kills the signature? On the other issue, it does not seem like a bug that whenever you hit ctrl-n or the 'create a new message' icon that it always starts with the cursor at To: No - I wonder if our emails have crossed here? I was getting confused - it happens quite easily with me and TB! - I use the %CURSOR macro in a Reply template so that when the reply orm i created, the cursor sits where it should after the quoted text of the email to which I am replying. EG: %QUOTES %CURSOR -- Marten Gallagher Webmaster for Broomhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.broomhillart.co.uk Annery Kiln Web Design and Management ++ -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 3:10:42 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: I have never understood the term 'common folders'. They are folders I have created using Folder Folder etc They don't get subfolders automatically like account folders do. They are not virtual folders, they are not the standard folders that get created as a set when a new account is created. They are simply folders I have created to store things in. Does that make them 'common' - I always assumed 'common fodlers' were the ones that were automatically created as sub-folders of an account when a new account was created. I think this whole thread is impossibly confused due to imprecise descriptions. When I read 'new message' I thought message created to start a new thread, by hitting create new message icon. I think someone is writing 'new message' when they are talking about a message which is more precisely a reply, and triggers a reply template. At least, I can interpret my initial confusion better is this is part of the source. Another problem seems to be that this thread keeps breaking and so is hard to follow. TheBat! is organized by account, and each account creates it's own folder structure. This was something which always was not intuitive to me and I am more comfortable with a system where all my folders are together. The creation, therefore of common folders was a plus for me. Common folders are the group of folders (real, not virtual - although virtual can be either common or belong to an account I think) which are outside the account structure, and live in another hierarchy. Depending on how one works with their e-mail, common folders can create certain problems, such as when one goes to forward or reply, because they may no longer be linked to the account from whence they came and this may foul up someone's scheme. If everyone could have the discussion here using terms of art for what windows they are looking at, what types of messages they are working with, what kinds of folders they are in, maybe we could all understand what each other is talking about, and get further faster. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 3:10:42 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: If everyone could have the discussion here using terms of art for what windows they are looking at, what types of messages they are working with, what kinds of folders they are in, maybe we could all understand what each other is talking about, and get further faster. OK sorry if the breaking of messages and imprecision is my fault. Let me try to explain this again. I am webmaster for a number of clients on whose behalf I send emails regarding their websites. I have a number of POP accounts for which I have ACCOUNT folders in the list of folders. I also have a POP account for each [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I have. I.e: usually one for each website that I maintain. For reasons not necessary to explain here, most of these are set so that email addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is re-directed, by the server, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an account set up on my machine here. When TB receives an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a series of filters on incoming mail sorts it and sends, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the COMMON FOLDER 'Pinky Blob'. Now comes the bit that always used to work: I set the IDENTITY in the properties of the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER to the appropriate settings: 'Webmaster for Pinky Blob' and '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and I set up the template in the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER to have a specific signature such as: 'Regards - Webmaster for Pinky Blob' So that if I HIGHLIGHTED the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER and clicked on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon on the toolbar... ...OR... ...if I replied to a message that had been filtered into the Pinky Blob COMMON FOLDER by clicking the relevant REPLY icon... ...then the new email, or the quoted email ready for writing the reply, would open in the editor window with the FROM line saying whatever had been entered in the IDENTITY properties of the COMMON FOLDER and the message having the SIGNATURE taken from the MESSAGE TEMPLATE or from the REPLY TEMPLATE. HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. Sorry to be so long-winded... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: ReplyTo etc Macros problem
HOWEVER... at an unspecified time in the not too recent past, this seems to have changed and the FROM address is always [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the signature(s) are always that which is set for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACCOUNT FOLDER templates. I have just investigated further: The ACCOUNT details and SUGNATURE that are used for all emails going out - whatever templates and identotied are set in COMMON FOLDERS - is the details and signatures for the ACCOUNT which is currently set as the DEFAULT for mailto URLs - or if no account is set as the default, then it is the account that was last checked as the default even though it may be no longer. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
