Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,


M I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it
M does but the name seems to suggest something

 Unfortunately it doesn't paste formatted from Word but it was so easy to
 align all my lists with the Tab button that it only took a few minutes.

Glad you have it solved. Anyway, AFAIR, no text editor gets the
formatting when you copy from Word and paste. But I may be wrong.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste

That's another useful snippet of information learnt thanks. Although why
Word can't make formatting exportable I don't know. Maybe it's time to
give OpenOffice a go.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,

M no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste

 That's another useful snippet of information learnt thanks. Although why
 Word can't make formatting exportable I don't know. Maybe it's time to
 give OpenOffice a go.

It is not a Word problem, you would have the same problem if you go to
OpenOffice. It is a problem between _word_ processors and _text_
processors.

When you copy something from a _word_ processor, that includes all the
extra information that you don't see (i.e. formatting, paragraph
hierarchy, fonts and sizes, colours, possible indexing info, etc.,etc.)
and the word processor doesn't know (it can't) where you are going to
paste that. You may want to paste it just a couple of pages away, or in
another word document, or Follow me?

When you paste something in a _text_ processor, how can it know where it
comes from to understand its formatting, etc.? Does a text processor
have to understand the special coding (formatting) done by MS Word,
OpenOffice, etc.? So, all it pastes are ASCII text characters with the
basic formatting that can be done with ASCII characters like space and
end of line and it strips all other control and formatting characters
(actually combinations) it cannot understand.

That's how it more or less works :)

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M When you paste something in a _text_ processor, how can it know where it
M comes from to understand its formatting, etc.? Does a text processor
M have to understand the special coding (formatting) done by MS Word,
M OpenOffice, etc.? So, all it pastes are ASCII text characters with the
M basic formatting that can be done with ASCII characters like space and
M end of line and it strips all other control and formatting characters
M (actually combinations) it cannot understand.

Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in
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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Richard,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:59:11 +0100GMT Richard Wakeford wrote:

RW Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in
RW the copying.

yes, tabs are copied, but how they display depends of your text editor.
Tab setting in word processors is normally defines in cm or inces, in
text editors you define your tab in number of characters.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,

 Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in
 the copying.

They may, but not always. Some times formatting done apparently with
tabs is done by other means, for example paragraph indentation may be
done by setting different margins for different paragraphs.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Feli,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

FW yes, tabs are copied, but how they display depends of your text editor.
FW Tab setting in word processors is normally defines in cm or inces, in
FW text editors you define your tab in number of characters.

Maybe that's why, when I copied my tabbed Word doc to SmartBat, the tabs
had no rhyme or reason to them. They were all over the place and I had
to retab within SmartBat itself.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU,

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M They may, but not always. Some times formatting done apparently with
M tabs is done by other means, 

I've just replied to Feli on the same subject. At least I now have my
columns, however I had to do it :-)

In the particular Word document I attempted to copy across, it was
formatted purely with tabs (apart from carriage returns at line endings
of course) but there was no consistency in the copying across, even
though there were only two tabs per line and the tab settings were for
the whole document, no other stray tabs in sight.

There's always something to learn with PCs isn't there? Sometimes good,
sometimes bad but, fortunately for me anyway, I've not had any really
bad moments :-)

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread Chris

MAU @ 12/14/2005 5:48:13 AM
Smart Bat column alignment mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 That's how it more or less works :

Sort of...

When Word (or OpenOffice) puts something on the clipboard, it puts it
one there is multiple formats. I know that Words puts it on in plain
text (the clipboard default), RTF, and Word format. When another
program goes to read from the clipboard, it specifies to format that
it wants. SmartBat probably only asks for the plain text. So, whatever
Word puts on the clipboard in plain text is what SmartBat gets.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Chris,

 That's how it more or less works :

 Sort of...

 When Word (or OpenOffice) puts something on the clipboard, it puts it
 one there is multiple formats. I know that Words puts it on in plain
 text (the clipboard default), RTF, and Word format. When another
 program goes to read from the clipboard, it specifies to format that
 it wants. SmartBat probably only asks for the plain text. So, whatever
 Word puts on the clipboard in plain text is what SmartBat gets.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-13 Thread Richard Wakeford
Nobody? :-(

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-13 Thread MAU
Hello Richard,

 Nobody? :-(

I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just
anywhere inside it to get the context menu? I can even see a 'Paste
formatted' option, which I don't know what it does but the name seems to
suggest something ;-)

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-13 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just
M anywhere inside it to get the context menu? I can even see a 'Paste
M formatted' option, which I don't know what it does but the name seems to
M suggest something ;-

Write 1000 times I must remember to use the RMB!

So simple that I never thought about it and yet it's all there already
under utilities at the bottom of the menu. I now have nice columns
and, once again, thanks a million.

You're going to be in beer for life with all the help you give here :-)

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Re: Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-13 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just
M anywhere inside it to get the context menu?

Just as a follow up I'd still like some way to tell you if the three
autoformatting, autowrap and justify on wrap are on or off as there's
absolutely no indication as to which way they're set.

M I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it
M does but the name seems to suggest something

Unfortunately it doesn't paste formatted from Word but it was so easy to
align all my lists with the Tab button that it only took a few minutes.

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Smart Bat column alignment

2005-12-11 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello,

How do you get columns to align in smart bat?

I have one page which is meant to have columns in it. However Smat Bat
behaves like MicroEd in that, if you don't have line spaces, all lines
become one the moment you start to edit.

do all my editing by copying to Word, making adjustments to the columns,
and pasting back in. It doesn't matter if I use tabs or the space bar or
convert it to columns in Word. It still shows as a misaligned mess when
pasting back into Smart Bat.

I can't write it directly into Smart Bat as I don't want a line space
between each line of information. That would necessitate far too much
scrolling up and down.

It would be good to have the same choices as in MicroEd  and to be able
to turn off the autoformat and autowrap facilities.

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Smart Bat Time Stamp

2005-11-10 Thread Nick Danger
Greets,

Does anyone know if it has ever been entered into the wish list to
make the auto time stamp when Smart Bat opens optional?  I seem to
recall it being discussed before but don't remember if it was ever
entered.

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Re: Smart Bat Time Stamp

2005-11-10 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi,

On Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 4:03:48 PM, Nick Danger wrote:

 Does anyone know if it has ever been entered into the wish list to
 make the auto time stamp when Smart Bat opens optional?  I seem to
 recall it being discussed before but don't remember if it was ever
 entered.

I've seen an entry on the bugtrack but there were no comments if I
remember well.

But you've got my point: that's really boring to erase the date every
time you have to use the SmartPad (which is a nice idea and very
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Smart Bat

2005-09-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello,

I want to copy a list form Word into Smart bat. I've tried it with Tabs
and with ordinary spaces but it just will not accept the formatting. Is
this a feature of Smart Bat or is there a trick to get columns to line
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Smart Bat (Was: Re[2]: Improving english)

2003-11-23 Thread mm Meister
Hello,

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 5:22:26 AM, Jean asked and Roelof answered:

JS What is the meaning of:

JS SmartBat ?
JS Time tagline?

 snip
  
RO When opening SmartBat, it inserts a line in the current file that
RO contains time and date,

Jean's question prompted me to investigate Smart Bat, with which I was
not familiar. When I invoke the Smart Bat F6 there are two time
stamps, one for the current moment, and another for some other date
that has no relevance to the message I'm memo-ing (Jean, that's not
really a word!) Are there supposed to be two time stamps?

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Re: Smart Bat (Was: Re[2]: Improving english)

2003-11-23 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Sunday, November 23, 2003, 6:49 AM, you wrote:

RO When opening SmartBat, it inserts a line in the current file that
RO contains time and date,

mM Jean's question prompted me to investigate Smart Bat, with which I was
mM not familiar. When I invoke the Smart Bat F6 there are two time
mM stamps, one for the current moment, and another for some other date
mM that has no relevance to the message I'm memo-ing (Jean, that's not
mM really a word!) Are there supposed to be two time stamps?

geez, I hit F6 and found I had smartbat installed and forgot all about
it!! and a note from 5/22/2002!!:
== 5/22/2002 3:07:10 PM (20020522)
What else can you do at 3:00 am?
== 5/23/2002 3:07:55 PM (20020523)


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Re: Lost Smart Bat Entries.

2003-07-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Monday, July 28, 2003, 6:26:17 AM, William Moore wrote:

 I changed the partition structure so when I restored TB! files I had to
 point TB! to the new paths. No problem. Unfortunately I seem to have
 'lost' all my Smart Bat entries :-( TB! is still looking for them on
 (and trying to write new ones to) the old partition path.

From memory, all you need to do is right click on the SmartBat Window,
choose New Pad, and then browse to the new location of your smartbat
entries.  The pad will open in a new tab, and then you can use the
same right click method to close the empty one.

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Re: Lost Smart Bat Entries.

2003-07-28 Thread William Moore
Hello Julian

Thank you for your email dated Monday, July 28, 2003, 8:45:17 AM,
in which you wrote:

 Unfortunately I seem to have 'lost' all my Smart Bat entries

JBL all you need to do is right click on the SmartBat Window,
JBL choose New Pad, and then browse to the new location of your smartbat
JBL entries.  The pad will open in a new tab, and then you can use the
JBL same right click method to close the empty one.

Great! Many thanks.

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Lost Smart Bat Entries.

2003-07-27 Thread William Moore
Hello TBUDL

At the weekend I re-formatted/partitioned my hard-drives, re-loaded
software and data without too much grief.

I changed the partition structure so when I restored TB! files I had to
point TB! to the new paths. No problem. Unfortunately I seem to have
'lost' all my Smart Bat entries :-( TB! is still looking for them on
(and trying to write new ones to) the old partition path.

The entries are still in TB! directory (in .txt) but TB! is not
looking for them there.

Any ideas?
  
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Smart bat! - can we move the tabs around?

2003-06-08 Thread David
In Smart Bat!, I have created rather a large number of tabs, and I'd
like to re-arrange them. Can I move them, or do I to close out all the
files, and re-open them in the order I want them to be? I've tried
drag-and-drop using mouse, and with ALT and CTRL and ALT-CTRL etc.,
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Re: Smart bat! - can we move the tabs around?

2003-06-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, June 9, 2003, David wrote:

 In Smart Bat!, I have created rather a large number of tabs, and I'd
 like to re-arrange them. Can I move them, or do I to close out all the
 files, and re-open them in the order I want them to be? I've tried
 drag-and-drop using mouse, and with ALT and CTRL and ALT-CTRL etc.,
 and nothing moves them.

no, but You can close TB and edit lines in file SmartBat.INI in MAIL
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Re[2]: Smart bat! - can we move the tabs around?

2003-06-08 Thread David
On Sunday, June 8, 2003, 6:46:15 PM, you wrote:

 In Smart Bat!, I have created rather a large number of tabs, and I'd
 like to re-arrange them. Can I move them, or do I to close out all the
 files, and re-open them in the order I want them to be? I've tried
 drag-and-drop using mouse, and with ALT and CTRL and ALT-CTRL etc.,
 and nothing moves them.

MM no, but You can close TB and edit lines in file SmartBat.INI in MAIL
MM directory.

Brilliant! Worked like a charm.

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Uses for Smart Bat?

2003-03-05 Thread Tom Schuetz
Hi,

Can anyone outline the functionality of SmartBat (F6)? Does it only
store dates and events? Or can it be used to make N happen on DATE?

Thanks!

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Re: Uses for Smart Bat?

2003-03-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tom,

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:29:17 -0800GMT (5-3-03, 23:29 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TS Can anyone outline the functionality of SmartBat (F6)?

It's a little text editor to take notes and such. Can open several
text files simultaneously.
I heard of people who were using it as default editor for their
cookies file for example. You set it up once to also open your cookies
file and it'll do so every time. Easy way to add cookies from within
TB.

And more things like that.

TS Does it only store dates and events?

It doesn't store events. It only adds time and date when you open it.
Could come in handy for a close by notebook.

TS Or can it be used to make N happen on DATE?

I wish it could. Then it would be a real addition to TB. Now I'm not
really convinced about it's uses.

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Re: Uses for Smart Bat?

2003-03-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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@5-Mar-2003, 14:29 -0800 (22:29 UK time) Tom Schuetz [TS] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

TS Can anyone outline the functionality of SmartBat (F6)? Does it only
TS store dates and events? Or can it be used to make N happen on DATE?

The FAQ lists some uses of SmartBat and in the latest betas it now
includes a scheduler.

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Re: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)

2002-10-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Roelof!

On Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 11:58:05 PM you wrote:

 This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk
 Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Since you've mentioned the copyright holder, no harm done. ;-)




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Re: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)

2002-10-17 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Dierk,

On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:05:35 +0200GMT (17-10-02, 10:05 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

 This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk
 Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

DH Since you've mentioned the copyright holder, no harm done. ;-)

I thought you might like it. Actually it was to emphasize the
advantages of local archives that I discussed in another thread. ;-)

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Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)

2002-10-16 Thread Anne

Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 6:32:36 AM,William wrote:

WM Is anyone going to mention 'a bridge over TBUDLed water'? I hope not.


If you're really unlucky William I'll sing it for you! ;-)


OK another question please... in v.1.61 there's an item listed in the
'Tools' menu as Smart Bat. I clicked it and it opened a nice window
but I have no idea what to do with it.  A search of the 'Help' files
didn't produce any mention of it.  Can someone please explain what it
does and how I'd use it?  Thanks :-)

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Re: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)

2002-10-16 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Anne,

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:04:27 +0100GMT (16-10-02, 23:04 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

A OK another question please... in v.1.61 there's an item listed in the
A 'Tools' menu as Smart Bat. I clicked it and it opened a nice window
A but I have no idea what to do with it.  A search of the 'Help' files
A didn't produce any mention of it.  Can someone please explain what it
A does and how I'd use it?  Thanks :-)

This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk
Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

SmartBat is a kind of clipboard extension to collect snippets from
different mails (or other texts) for editing purposes. You can, for
example, built up a collection of quotations from various mails you
want to answer in only one reply to. You can also put in any other
text information from different sources (through the clipboard) to
compose a new mail body. that way you can even use external editors
to compose a message.

Of course you an use it for whatever. Dierk mentioned only a few
examples.

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Re[2]: Smart Bat (was Re[2]: Bat newbies list?)

2002-10-16 Thread Anne

Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 10:58:05 PM, Roelof wrote:


RO This is a shameless copy and paste from a message written by Dierk
RO Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

RO SmartBat is a kind of clipboard extension to collect snippets from
RO different mails (or other texts) for editing purposes. You can, for
RO example, built up a collection of quotations from various mails you
RO want to answer in only one reply to. You can also put in any other
RO text information from different sources (through the clipboard) to
RO compose a new mail body. that way you can even use external editors
RO to compose a message.

RO Of course you an use it for whatever. Dierk mentioned only a few
RO examples.


Thank you Roelof,

Now I know what it's for I shall try it out and see how I get on!  It
would certainly seem to be a very neat tool :-)

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-23 Thread Matt Thoene

On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:33:29 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:


  I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
  maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
  file... 
 
 You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature to an entire
 Application... hardly a fair comparison. 

 I understand that... but I'm sure there are a few unneeded facilities in OE that
 aren't needed, that could trim off a fair size, like it's HTML (sending, and
 displaying).  TB! SmartBat is tiny from what I can see... it's just a form, with
 a text box on it.  Bloatware it is not ;)

Why is there an OE supporter even subscribed to this list?? :]

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, May 23, 2002, Matt Thoene wrote...

 Why is there an OE supporter even subscribed to this list?? :]

I  personally  think  OE  is  one  of  the  worst  products  Microsoft
conceded...  but  that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-23 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Jonathan,
 
23. maj 2002, 17:30:08, you wrote:

JA I  personally  think  OE  is  one  of  the  worst  products  Microsoft
JA conceded...  but  that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
JA here though ;)

I don't think so. OE would be a great e-mail client for it's price,
*if* it didn't contain so many security holes...

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, May 23, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote...

 Hello Jonathan,

JA I  personally  think  OE  is  one  of  the  worst  products  Microsoft
JA conceded...  but  that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
JA here though ;)

 I don't think so. OE would be a great e-mail client for it's price,
 *if* it didn't contain so many security holes...

Which  is  why  I  think  it's  one of Microsoft's worst products.. In
general,  it's  adequate  for most home users, because most home users
don't  know  there are many options.

I  got  3  virus  alert warnings this week about viruses that target a
small  bug  that was supposed to have been fixed by MS in OE4. If they
cannot  fix that, then the chances are, there are probably some bigger
ones  lurking  around. I used to use MailWarrior [www.kaufmansoft.com]
for  a  fair bit of time, until it decided to dump all my mail because
of a read error. That to me is a fairly nice, suitable free version...
and  sits  somewhere  between  TB! and OE. It was actually the support
forum on the MW website that made me try out TB! ;)

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Ricardo M. Reyes,

On Wednesday, May 22 2002 at 12:32 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it.

No, you are clear. That was also one of my complaints with this 'SmartBat'
thing, and no... I was not prepared to hit the 'Enter' Key to start on a
new line. As you mentioned in your Posting, SmartBat was heralded to be a
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Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

yesterday I started to use Auto-Format and since then I notice that
the Smart Bat uses it also, although it's not checked in it's
utilities menu.

I don't mind that the auto format is ON in the smart bat, but the
problem is that if I open it and type write away, the new text
magically goes to the end of the previous line (the one with the dashes
and the time) and it get's REALLY annoying. It takes way the advantage
of the smart bat of open and write

Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it.

Is there any way to have independent settings between the message
editor and the smart bat? I think I like the auto-format in the
editor, but definitely not in the SB.

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Costas Papadopoulos

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Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:32:32 PM, you wrote:
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Why  don't  you  start  typing after you press the Enter key once in
order to go to a ne line?

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Re[2]: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El miércoles 22 de mayo de 2002, 16.36, Costas Papadopoulos decía:

 Is  there  any  way to have independent settings between the message
 editor  and  the  smart  bat?  I think I like the auto-format in the
 editor, but definitely not in the SB.

CP Why  don't  you  start  typing after you press the Enter key once in
CP order to go to a ne line?

ok, I may get used to that, but there's another issue that I forgot in
the first mail: After I write a text and close the SB, I re-open the
SB again and the new 'dashes line' gets glued with the last text I
wrote before, because obviously I didn't hit enter twice AFTER that
text.

so I should hit ENTER once before the text, and TWICE after it :-/

I think it's too much work to consider it usefull. Considering all the
other freeware software that can perform better than SB, it enters
exactly on the bloatware team.

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Re: Re[2]: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Ricardo,
On Thu, 23 May 2002 00:51:06 -0300, you wrote:

 I think it's too much work to consider it usefull. Considering all the
 other freeware software that can perform better than SB, it enters
 exactly on the bloatware team.

I'd not consider it bloatware... I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd
knock the exe size down by maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out
Outlook Express' exe file... and all the stuff that has bundled in.

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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Jonathan Angliss,

On Wednesday, May 22 2002 at 09:00 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
 maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
 file... 

You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature to an entire
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Re: Auto-format and Smart Bat

2002-05-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Nick,
On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:49:04 -0700, you wrote:

  I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
  maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
  file... 
 
 You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature to an entire
 Application... hardly a fair comparison. 

I understand that... but I'm sure there are a few unneeded facilities in OE that
aren't needed, that could trim off a fair size, like it's HTML (sending, and
displaying).  TB! SmartBat is tiny from what I can see... it's just a form, with
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Smart Bat??

2002-05-16 Thread Pete Milne



  Another simple question:

  I can't seem to find anything out about this.  What is itSmart Bat?

- 

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Re: Smart Bat??

2002-05-16 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Pete,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60k) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091
to write the following on Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 2:15:57 PM.



PM   Another simple question:

PM   I can't seem to find anything out about this.  What is itSmart Bat?

Kind of a cool editor thingy. g  Check the Archives for the last
month or so...



Hey Marck, is it time to add this question to the FAQ?  Seems to be
asked about Frequently

I would go with something like...

Q. What the heck is SmartBat?
A. SmartBat is a hotkey (f6) accessible notepad replacement that
   functions similar to TB message editing. It keeps it's text in
   %TBdir%\Mail\SmartBat.TXT (settings in SmartBat.INI). Also, it
   saves each time you exit.

You could also include some info from the archives.  I found Roberto
Machorro's messages listing what he uses it for...
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg36307.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg36319.html

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Re[2]: Smart Bat??

2002-05-16 Thread Pete Milne



Replying to your message of Thursday, May 16, 2002, 4:50:40 PM:

TM Kind of a cool editor thingy.

Cool!!!  That is going to be a handy little sucker I must say.  Thanks for
the technical explanation.  ;o)

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Re: Smart Bat?

2002-04-06 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Sir!

On Saturday, April 6, 2002 at 7:22:13 AM you wrote:

 After  a  *long* time I've joined the list again. So, I'm not informed
 have you discussed this topic. What *exactly* is the purpose of Smart
 Bat  and  how  does  it work? If you did talk about this, please send
 your answers to my private address!

In short, it's a second editor with formatting capabilities good to be
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Re: Smart Bat?

2002-04-06 Thread Nick Andriash

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, April 6, 2002, at 1:00:34 AM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Smart Bat?:

 In short, it's a second editor with formatting capabilities good to be
 used as a multiple clipboard substitute if one has none.

If one is to use SmartBat for anything productive, then from my standpoint
we need a Toolbar somewhere that we can turn auto-format off so that we
can start typing the moment SmartBat is opened. As it stands now, if you
have auto-format on... as most do I think... you are at a distinct
disadvantage when using SmartBat unless you come up with a bunch of
keystrokes to turn it off... then remember to turn it back on again. :o(


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Re: Smart Bat?

2002-04-06 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Nick!

On Saturday, April 6, 2002 at 2:59:19 PM you wrote:

 As it stands now, if you have auto-format on... as most do I
 think... you are at a distinct disadvantage when using SmartBat
 unless you come up with a bunch of keystrokes to turn it off... then
 remember to turn it back on again. :o(

Since I have - until my idea of using SmartBat as the PGP verification
container - not used it except for some tests (I do have Multiple
Clipboard installed), I don't know about that. I'm quite sure that you
are right.

I just wanted to say, actually, that I don't use Auto-format. Maybe I
have to test it again. I can't remember why I switched it off, but
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Smart Bat?

2002-04-05 Thread Sir Jinx!

Hello all,

After  a  *long* time I've joined the list again. So, I'm not informed
have you discussed this topic. What *exactly* is the purpose of Smart
Bat  and  how  does  it work? If you did talk about this, please send
your answers to my private address!

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Re: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Roberto!

On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 9:47:39 PM you wrote:

 - Post-it (TM) substitute

Did you find the message memo, yet?


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Re[2]: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-30 Thread Roberto Machorro

Yes, I have. But:

- It doesn't have a system-wide key call
- It's e-mail dependant
- It doesn't have a 'search' function ;)


Roberto


Saturday, March 30, 2002, 1:23:24 AM, you wrote:
DH Hello Roberto!

DH On Friday, March 29, 2002 at 9:47:39 PM you wrote:

 - Post-it (TM) substitute

DH Did you find the message memo, yet?





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Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-29 Thread Roberto Machorro

Hi to all!

Earlier in time I wrote asking what SmartBat was supposed to be. A
notepad with search functionality was the common reply for my e-mail
and for those that asked a similar question afterwards.

Well, all I can say is that it rules! After using it for a few days,
I've used for a whole bunch of things (funny how simple ideas con go
so far!), here are some of the uses I've given it:

- Multiple text clipboard
- Scratch-pad
- Simple TODO / day organizer (if I could sync this thing with my Palm
easily I'd be ecstatic!), Palm Desktop chaps my ...
- Thought organizer at the touch of an F6
- Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)
- Post-it (TM) substitute
- Calls and reminders
- ...

I have assigned a system hot-key for it and now I have it available
from any app!

One question though is how often is the text saved? I type the CTRL-S
sequence every time I type new stuff in, but might be wasting my
energy.


Roberto


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Re: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-29 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 29-3-2002 @ 12:47:39 GMT-0800 (which was 21:47
where I live) Roberto Machorro wrote and spread these wise comments on
Smart Bat rules!:

snipped a bit
RM Well, all I can say is that it rules! After using it for a few days,
RM I've used for a whole bunch of things (funny how simple ideas con go
RM so far!), here are some of the uses I've given it:

RM - Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)
Mail organiser? how so?

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Re: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-29 Thread Joseph N.

 Roberto Machorro wrote on Friday, March 29, 2002:

 - Mail organizer (got gazillion e-mails)

How do you use it as a mail organizer?



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Re[2]: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-29 Thread Roberto Machorro

Hi all!

I very often find myself in need of:

- Replying to several people similar ideas/stuff
So in SmartBat I copy/paste their names and ideas and hints of
what I want to tell them, then when I'm done checking all e-mail I
come back and reply. My previous solution was to open a New Message
and stick in some ideas in the edition box, soon I would have 5-12
emails, I'd come back to them and answer the question.

- Thread un-friendly lists
I don't know if people have noticed, but there are lots of
thread un-friendly lists out-there, not that it's the majordomo or
whatever software they are using's fault. But the people's fault. So
sometimes keeping a scratch-pad with notes helps you keep yourself on
top of things. I'm currently in about 27 lists, some low-volume, some
high volume.

- Organizing ideas with several people
I participate in several open-source (whoops! I mean GPLed :)
projects, upon a heavy discussion where several ideas an criticisms
where thrown in I would take out notepad and put in ideas. Storing
them with the date as the filename. SmartBat puts it all in a single
easy to access area and you can skip between the dates using the
calendar thingy.

- Pre-create e-mails
Sometimes it's easier to sketch e-mails through the day (as
ideas are coming to you) and then just sending them off when desired.
The Message postponing, Notes combo was OK though, but I like it this
way better, my whole reasoning is there at a glance.

There are much more things you can do with just a plain text editor
with a search function ;) like SmartBat. And I know I'll find out
more and so will you!



Roberto



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Re: Smart Bat rules!

2002-03-29 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 30-3-2002 @ 15:40:03 GMT-0800 (which was 0:40
where I live) Roberto Machorro wrote and spread these wise comments on
Smart Bat rules!:

snipped a bit
RM There are much more things you can do with just a plain text editor
RM with a search function ;) like SmartBat. And I know I'll find out
RM more and so will you!

 Can't wait to find out ;-)

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Re: Smart Bat!

2002-02-24 Thread Alastair Scott

On 24 February 2002 at 03:21 Stuart wrote:

 It looks to me like a little memo/notepad or daily journal app. TheBat
 has always had some of the features of a PIM and this is just one
 more. :-)

It is, and it's strangely useful (I first thought 'oh dear, another
bell and whistle' but, as a sort of permanent Clipboard, it comes in
handy when developing macros).

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Re: Smart Bat!

2002-02-24 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Alastair Scott,

On Sunday, February 24 2002 at 01:29 AM PDT, you wrote:

 It is, and it's strangely useful (I first thought 'oh dear, another
 bell and whistle' but, as a sort of permanent Clipboard, it comes in
 handy when developing macros).

Pure bloat because it's not required. There are many Programs out there
that do a much better job and don't add to the bloat.Give me
customisable toolbars any day.


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Smart Bat!

2002-02-23 Thread John Phillips



Hello fellow Bat! fans.

I notice in latest betas there is a menu item Tools / Smart Bat! (F6 calls it
up).

What is the purpose of this?

(Sorry, I am not on the beta list).

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Re: Smart Bat!

2002-02-23 Thread Stuart Krivis

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:03:12 +1100, John Phillips[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello fellow Bat! fans.

I notice in latest betas there is a menu item Tools / Smart Bat! (F6 calls it
up).

What is the purpose of this?

It looks to me like a little memo/notepad or daily journal app. TheBat
has always had some of the features of a PIM and this is just one
more. :-)

 

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