Sorting Office/Filters

[Peter Zhigulin]

Good day, sirs.

I   have   some questions about Sorting Office. I clearly understand Incoming,
Putgoing  and  Selective  Download  filter< when they are applied and for what
reasons. But there are two options that confuse me a bit.
It  has  an option to set up "read mail" filter. When The Bat applies it? Will
be it applied when I manualy mark message as read or - yes I have such cases -
it should be deleted at ince as soon as I have noticed them?
It   has   an option to set up "replied mail" filter. When The Bat applies it?
As  soon  as  hit reply button|kb shortcut, or message must be sent away& Does
they - filter - will be applied for the replies themself?
And  thу  questions.  For  now   I'm  using Incoming and Outgoing filters, and
Selective  download  a  bit  (he-hem  I  have  about  15  thousands mail-error
reports). Is there any way to avoid duplicates. i.e. There're a lot of messges
addressed  to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's simple to separate them - Incomming
Filter  for  Receipent  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then another one,  I'm writing
messages to the same address [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's a mail-list where I'm
included,  often I need BCC: field filled with address wich should be known to
me  in  the  future.  That's  why  here  comes  Outgoing  filter for Receipent
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now  I'msending two messages to this address, message
"number  1"  with BCC field and "number 2" without BCC fiels. Both of them are
processed  by  Outgoing filter and soon they arrived again and processed by my
Incoming filter. After that I have four messages in `hostmaster` folder
 - "number  1" - outgoing copy
 - "number  2" - outgoing copy
 - "number  1" - incoming copy
 - "number  2" - incoming copy

How could I avoid this situation and have only
 - "number  1" - outgoing copy
 - "number  2" - outgoing copy
or
 - "number  1" - outgoing copy
 - "number  2" - incoming copy

And,  of  course,  I  need  all incoming mail not writen by me and directed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] processed by Incoming filter and moved to `hostmaster` folder

Any ideas?


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Sorting Office Filters

[Simon Elliott]

A couple of oddities:

I subscribe to three mailing lists, of which this is one. I have
filters to send messages from each list to its own folder.

Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
been set.

And the filters which look for an expression in "kludges" works, but
the fikter which looks for a simple string in "subject" doesn't.

Any thoughts?

  

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Sorting Office/Filters

[Raf Hofmans]

Hello,

I've just switched to 'The Bat!', and am still exploring all the
functions and features of this program.

I have a simple question about the 'Sorting Office' (Account > Sorting
Office/Filters):

Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages
that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr,
but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me
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Sorting Office/Filters

[Frederick Fisher Jr.]

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Hello,

  I'm having a bit of a problem getting filters to act the way I would
like.  I'm not trying to do anything complicated (at least I thought I
wasn't), all I want to do to messages is have the messages in the message
list turn a certain color based on where they are being sent from.

  I would like for the filters to act on the messages as I receive them,
but it seems the only way I can get messages shown like I want is to read a
message and then hit Folder --> Re-filter...then the message shows up with
From/Subject/etc the way I would like for them to look.  How do I set up
the filters to make the message appear like I want as I download them?

  I'm sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I did look in the
help file and even made an attempt to look at the online archive.

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Antje Lehmann]

Hi,

Peter Zhigulin wrote:

> Good day, sirs.

Even though I'm not a sir I'll try anyway ;-))

> I have some questions about Sorting Office. I clearly understand
> Incoming, Putgoing and Selective Download filter< when they are
> applied and for what reasons. But there are two options that confuse
> me a bit. It has an option to set up "read mail" filter. When The
> Bat applies it? > Will be it applied when I manualy mark message as
> read

I just tried it and it seems TB does that as soon as an e-mail that
corresponds the filter settings is marked read (when I tried it it
worked only when is was marked automatically).

> or - yes I have such cases - it should be deleted at ince as
> soon as I have noticed them?

Well, you can set up a filter to process certain incoming mails to go
directly to the trash folder, or even to be deleted right away, but
in that case you should be pretty sure you don't want to take a quick
look at them before they are gone. Look through the filter action tab
in the sorting office to learn which options are available (gosh, I've
written to many user documentations lately... I already sound like one
myself :-) ).

> It has an option to set up "replied mail" filter. When The Bat
> applies it? As soon as hit reply button|kb shortcut, or message must
> be sent away&

As soon as the reply is sent, because only then will the original
message be marked "replied".

> Does they - filter - will be applied for the replies themself?

They shouldn't be as the option is called "replied mail", i.e. mail
that you have replied to.

> And thу questions. For now I'm using Incoming and Outgoing
> filters, and Selective download a bit (he-hem I have about 15
> thousands mail-error reports).

Dude, is someone using your address for spammning? :-)

> Is there any way to avoid duplicates. i.e. There're a lot of messges
> [...]
> After that I have four messages in `hostmaster` folder -
> "number 1" - outgoing copy - "number 2" - outgoing copy - "number 1"
> - incoming copy - "number 2" - incoming copy

I don't get this exactly *confused*, but I think what you need to do
is to run "kill duplicates" in the folder menu. Even though it's
probably kind of annoying to do that all the time. I don't know that
there is an automated feature for this, but I could be wrong here.

> How could I avoid this situation and have only
>  - "number  1" - outgoing copy
>  - "number  2" - outgoing copy
> or
>  - "number  1" - outgoing copy
>  - "number  2" - incoming copy

> And, of course, I need all incoming mail not writen by me and
> directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] processed by Incoming filter and
> moved to `hostmaster` folder

> Any ideas?

You mean without having your own messages moved to that folder, too?
Try to set up a filter for all messages sent to that address, moving
them to the desired folder, and then create a new filter to sort out
the messages written by yourself and putting them somewhere else. Make
this filter the first in your list and activate "continue with other
filters" (sorry, I don't have the English version of TB, hope my
translation is close to the original wording) in the filter's options
tab. Should work!


Antje

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Peter,

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:42:43 +0400 GMT (13/02/2004, 01:42 +0700 GMT),
Peter Zhigulin wrote:

> Then another one, I'm writing messages to the same address
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's a mail-list where I'm included, often I
> need BCC: field filled with address wich should be known to me in
> the future.

I'll pick this problem to reply to.

> That's why here comes Outgoing filter for Receipent
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I'msending two messages to this address,
> message "number 1" with BCC field and "number 2" without BCC fiels.

Sometimes you use BCC and sometimes you don't? You are sending two
messages which are the same? My suggestion is you standardise this.
for example, always BCC to yourself.

Then, leave the outgoing copy in the Sent folder, i.e. don't use an
Outgoing filter. Use only an Incoming filter. This way, you ave the
message only once in the list folder.

Would that work for you?

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Re: Sorting Office Filters

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Simon,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:54:21 +0100 GMT (19/07/2004, 20:54 +0700 GMT),
Simon Elliott wrote:

SE> Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
SE> looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
SE> between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
SE> first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
SE> location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
SE> been set.

Sorry, I cannot confirm this with the latest release version.

SE> Any thoughts?

Time for an update?

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Re: Sorting Office Filters

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Simon,
Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:54:21 AM, you wrote:

SE> A couple of oddities:

SE> I subscribe to three mailing lists, of which this is one. I have
SE> filters to send messages from each list to its own folder.

SE> Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
SE> looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
SE> between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
SE> first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
SE> location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
SE> been set.

SE> And the filters which look for an expression in "kludges" works, but
SE> the fikter which looks for a simple string in "subject" doesn't.

Not confirmed in released Version 2.12 on Windows 98 SE.

  




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Re: Sorting Office Filters

[Simon Elliott]

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 3:38:17 PM, Thomas wrote:
SE>> Any thoughts?

TF> Time for an update?

Might be a good idea. I'll look into this.

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[marek jedlinski]

> Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages
> that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr,
> but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me
> out?

After you've created the filter, use View menu -> "Re-filter" command.

(It will run all defined filters, or classes of filters, though. I'm not sure
if it's possible to run just one filter selectively.)

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[St - Musaic.Net]

> Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages
> that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr,
> but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me
> out?

  Folder -> Re-filter - Click for "Incoming Mail".

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Wolffe]

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On Monday, December 30, 2002 Raf Hofmans stated:

RH> Hello,

RH> I've just switched to 'The Bat!', and am still exploring all the
RH> functions and features of this program.
Welcome aboard


RH> Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages
RH> that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr,
Right click on the Inbox folder (or any folder that you want to re-process)
and select "Re-filter messages".


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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Frederick!

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 at 6:14:50 PM you wrote:

>   I would like for the filters to act on the messages as I receive them,
> but it seems the only way I can get messages shown like I want is to read a
> message and then hit Folder --> Re-filter...then the message shows up with
> From/Subject/etc the way I would like for them to look.  How do I set up
> the filters to make the message appear like I want as I download them?

I try.

If i understand you right, you want to colour code your messages based
upon the sender (or whatever). For that you first define the colour
groups you need, then create filters in the sorting office.

There you need the actions tab, look for the colour group option and
check it, choose your colour group. Set the filter active and
automatic.

This should take of the colours for your messages. If you now want to
filter them into folders, you have to check "Continue with other
filters" and create them. Be sure to put the colouring filters above
the "foldering" one's.

I hope I am right.



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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello Frederick,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:14:50 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

Frederick> [...] I would like for the filters to act on the messages as I receive them,
Frederick> but it seems the only way I can get messages shown like I want is to read a
Frederick> message and then hit Folder --> Re-filter...then the message shows up with
Frederick> From/Subject/etc the way I would like for them to look.  How do I set up
Frederick> the filters to make the message appear like I want as I download them?

  Assuming that you are creating a filter under the 'incoming'
  folder rather than the 'read' folder, then how about the
  following:

  Select "Incoming Filter Folder"
  Select "New"
  Name : color my msg red (or whatever)
  Source Folder: Inbox
  Move messages to folder: to a folder of your choice

  StringsLocation  Presence
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]kludges   yes

  Actions Tab
  select "Set the messages colour group to:
  select your color

  Place this filter @ the top of the list of filters.

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hello Frederick!

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 at 6:59:28 PM you wrote:

> Okay, I have the filter set as Active in the "Rule is" part of the first
> tab...is there a separate setting for automatic?

On the whole Jan made the process much more efficient; where I used
two filters for any filtering criterion he used one. Should have
thought of it myself.

As for "automatic": Un-check (if checked) "Rule is Manual only".



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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hi Frederick,

On 02 May 2001 at  11:59:28 -0500 (which was 17:59 where I  live)
Frederick Fisher Jr. wrote to Dierk Haasis and made these points:

FFJ> I was a bit wrong in my last message...I don't have to hit re-filter to get
FFJ> a message to show up in the correct color group.  It seems that as soon as
FFJ> a message is marked read that it will show up correctly...which still isn't
FFJ> quite what I'm looking for.

In that case the problem is in the colour group definition in that
there are *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there.

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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Karin Spaink]

On 02-05-2001 at 18:59, Frederick Fisher Jr. kindly wrote:

> I was a bit wrong in my last message...I don't have to hit re-filter to get
> a message to show up in the correct color group.  It seems that as soon as
> a message is marked read that it will show up correctly...

I'm afraid that your problem is that whith unread messages,
the colour simply doesn't show. Try making a coloured
message unread and watch the colour change to black, instead
of to fat  :-(


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Re: Sorting Office/Filters

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 9:28:25 PM, Jan Rifkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]kludges   yes

Frederick>> I have Location set as "Anywhere". Would that make a
Frederick>> difference?

JR> don't know the answer but I would use kludges as it focuses on the
JR> headers.

Sendermmm - From: and/or Sender: header fields. Probably
Apparently-From: too.
Recipient - To: and/or CC: header fields. Probably Apparently-To: and
BCC: (if passed, rare cases) too.
Subject   - Self-explanatory
Text  - Self-explanatory
Kludges   - Message header. Should read as "RFC-822 Headers".
Anywhere  - Text+Kludges


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Sorting Office Filters - Config File?!...

[Mark R Harding]

Hi TBUDL,

I'm using the same version of TB! at work and at home and in the quest
to keep the two setups roughly equivalent I'd like to be able to
ensure that all the new filters I define at work (where I use email
the most) are also available at home.

I noted there is a file in my TB! account directory called...

  ACCOUNT.SRX

What I'd like to know is if this file is (as I believe) the place
where the definitions of the sorting office filters are kept and if it
is, is there any reason why copying this file to my home setup
wouldn't transfer the filters across without problems?

If this isn't the right file, is there a file or are the filter
settings held elsewhere - and can I transfer them to the home setup?

Ideally, I want to be able to transfer the filter settings without
transferring other settings since there are subtle differences between
the way TB! is setup at the two locations due to the type of network
connection each location has.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

[Frederick Fisher Jr.]

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 11:37:55 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> If i understand you right, you want to colour code your messages based
> upon the sender (or whatever). For that you first define the colour
> groups you need, then create filters in the sorting office.

Correct.  I have created a color group and then I pick that color group in
the Actions tab area.

> check it, choose your colour group. Set the filter active and
> automatic.

Okay, I have the filter set as Active in the "Rule is" part of the first
tab...is there a separate setting for automatic?

I was a bit wrong in my last message...I don't have to hit re-filter to get
a message to show up in the correct color group.  It seems that as soon as
a message is marked read that it will show up correctly...which still isn't
quite what I'm looking for.

> I hope I am right.

Yes, you are.  Thank you for trying to help.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 11:58:13 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>   Assuming that you are creating a filter under the 'incoming'
>   folder rather than the 'read' folder, then how about the
>   following:

"Inbox" is the source folder listed in my filter.

>   StringsLocation  Presence
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]kludges   yes

I have Location set as "Anywhere".  Would that make a difference?

>   Place this filter @ the top of the list of filters.

I've only created two filters so far...until I figure out what this
problem is I'm not going to create any more.  But the particular one I'm
testing is the first one of the two.

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Re[3]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hello Frederick,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:59:28 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

Frederick> [...] It seems that as soon as
Frederick> a message is marked read that it will show up correctly...which still isn't
Frederick> quite what I'm looking for.

  This indicates to me that this filter is probably nested in your
  "Read Messages" folder & not in the "Incoming Mail" filter folder.

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Re[3]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hello Frederick,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:14:26 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]kludges   yes

Frederick> I have Location set as "Anywhere".  Would that make a difference?

  don't know the answer but I would use kludges as it focuses on the
  headers.

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Re[4]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 12:32:30 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>   This indicates to me that this filter is probably nested in your
>   "Read Messages" folder & not in the "Incoming Mail" filter folder.

Nope, just looked and the filter is in the Incoming Mail folder...I don't
have filters in the other folders right now.  I have taken a screenshot
should you or anyone else want to see it.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 12:45:57 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> On the whole Jan made the process much more efficient; where I used
> two filters for any filtering criterion he used one. Should have
> thought of it myself.

No problem, at least you're trying to help.  :-)

> As for "automatic": Un-check (if checked) "Rule is Manual only".

Well, I've got it set correctly then.  So far it looks like I have the correct
settings but it's not working like I thought it would...

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hi Marck,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 19:37:05 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

Marck> In that case the problem is in the colour group definition in that
Marck> there are *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
Marck> and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there

  Hmmm. Didn't even think of that. Guess that's why you get the big bucks.
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Re[5]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Hello Frederick,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:52:04 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
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Frederick>  just looked and the filter is in the Incoming Mail folder...I don't
Frederick> have filters in the other folders right now.  I have taken a screenshot
Frederick> should you or anyone else want to see it.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 1:37:05 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

> Hi Frederick,

> In that case the problem is in the colour group definition in that
> there are *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
> and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there.

This tip did the trick.  Thank you for your help.

I also want to thank the other people who tried to help...thank you for
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Hello Frederick,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 14:10:13 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

>> *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
>> and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there.

Frederick> This tip did the trick.

  I learned something new, too.

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Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[WilWilWil]

Hello,

Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in "Incoming rules", I 
can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more, there is now a sub-folder created 
named "Moving in Hooks" !

I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this folder. I'm sure 
because TB authorize me to create rules in "Incoming mail" section but not 
folders...

What happened ?

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Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters

[bemos]

Hello tbudl,

  i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called
  "" i can't delete that, is this something to do with the klez
  virus ?

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo WilWilWil,

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

W> Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W> "Incoming rules", I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W> there is now a sub-folder created named "Moving in Hooks" !

I've got no idea what you mean. Could you make a screenshot and place
it somewhere on line?
When you've got no means of placing things on line, send it via PM to
me. Attached pictures are discouraged on this list.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo WilWilWil,

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

W> Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W> "Incoming rules", I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W> there is now a sub-folder created named "Moving in Hooks" !

W> I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this
W> folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in
W> "Incoming mail" section but not folders...

I don't know how you got this.
I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of
Wil's problem:

http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Ludovic LE MOAL]

Hi,

On Thursday, November 18, 2004 at 11:57:36 AM, WilWilWil wrote:

> Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
> "Incoming rules", I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
> there is now a sub-folder created named "Moving in Hooks" !

> I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this
> folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in
> "Incoming mail" section but not folders...

Isn't "hook" an other name for someone known ? I remember that an
install from fresh (not under a previous install) create a special
rule and a special folder but don't remember its name. I guess it was
"Known people" or something like that.

I tried to find "hook" in help and found "Adressing your message".
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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

W>> Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W>> "Incoming rules", I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W>> there is now a sub-folder created named "Moving in Hooks" !
> 
W>> I never saw that before, and I'm sure I've not created this
W>> folder. I'm sure because TB authorize me to create rules in
W>> "Incoming mail" section but not folders...
> 
> I don't know how you got this.
> I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of
> Wil's problem:
> 
> http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG

He probably and inadvertently hit  while while at a message
from "Moving in Hooks". That created the filter  and the filter
triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
"filters" (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MAU,

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:17:51 +0100GMT (20-11-2004, 13:17 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

>> http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/TB3_NFS.JPG

M> He probably and inadvertently hit  while while at a message
M> from "Moving in Hooks". That created the filter  and the filter
M> triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
M> folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
M> "filters" (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.

Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the
sorting office.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo WilWilWil,

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:57:36 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 11:57 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

W> Since this morning, when I go to filters of my accounts, in
W> "Incoming rules", I can see my 10 rules like yesterday, but more,
W> there is now a sub-folder created named "Moving in Hooks" !

Ludovic's message gave me an idea, your  filter has disappeared.
I guess that's a tiny bit of filter corruption.

You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this.
Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor.
Close TB
Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account
Restart TB
Paste your filters back to the sorting office

Note: Don't forget to save your outgoing (etc) filters too.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

M>> He probably and inadvertently hit  while while at a message
M>> from "Moving in Hooks". That created the filter  and the filter
M>> triggering later on a new message from same source did create the
M>> folder. Although I think he is a bit ambiguous what talking about
M>> "filters" (or rules) and folders and sub-folders.
> 
> Well, check the screenshot, it really looks like a subfolder in the
> sorting office.

You are right, I didn't pay attention to the icons. It may be then just
an icon display problem as Outgoing, Read, etc., also display a folder
icon. Wierd!

I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created.

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Re: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> I thought he was referring to the fact of the fact being created.
 ^
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filter ---



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Re: Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, bemos wrote...

> Hello tbudl,

>   i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called
>   "" i can't delete that, is this something to do with the klez
>   virus ?

Not  at  all...  this  filter is supposed to be there. It is a default
filter  created  by TB! developers so that you can just put in a tick,
and it automatically filters anybody from your address book into "inbox
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Re: Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters

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Hi bemos,

@15 May 2002, 01:33:50 +0800 (18:33 UK time) bemos wrote in
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>   i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called
>   "" i can't delete that, is this something to do with the
>   klez virus ?

No. It's a new addition to the Sorting office to allow you to do a
quick filter for "anyone in your address book" - an anti-spam device.
Just disable the filter if you don't want to use it.

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Re: Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello bemos!

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 7:33:50 PM you wrote:

>   i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called
>   "" i can't delete that, is this something to do with the klez
>   virus ?

No, it's not. It's a feature. If you don't want it, go into your
Sorting Office and de-activate the -filter. After that you can
delete the folder of the same name.




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Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[WilWilWil]

RO> I've got no idea what you mean. Could you make a screenshot and place
RO> it somewhere on line?
RO> When you've got no means of placing things on line, send it via PM to
RO> me. Attached pictures are discouraged on this list.

Thank you for you offer. I send you a capture now in PM.

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Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Roelof,
Friday, November 19, 2004, 8:42:10 PM, you wrote:

RO> I don't know how you got this.
RO> I can't reproduce it, for anybody interested, here's a screenshot of
RO> Wil's problem:

 Is it possible that the particular phrase "Moving In Hooks" comes
 from The Bat! itself. Since you are in the Sorting Office where
 Moving In, Moving Out, etc. are possible and the term Hooks is used
 in programming, maybe it has somehow grabbed this code from within
 The Bat! inadvertently. I have noticed recently that weird things
 seem to happen, as if code branches to somewhere it shouldn't. Not
 reproducible of course.

 For example, I had a mail check failure that stated it was trying to
 check my email prefix at a different ISP suffix. I do not have an
 account under my name at this ISP, but the place I work for does. it
 just seems to have mixed them up. It would not stop checking this
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Re[2]: Strange folder in sorting office/filters

[WilWilWil]

RO> You don't have a lot of filters, so you could try this.
RO> Copy and paste your filters from the sorting office to a text editor.
RO> Close TB
RO> Delete the account.srb file for the Wil account
RO> Restart TB
RO> Paste your filters back to the sorting office


Ok, I've deleted account.srb.

I've paste my filters copied before deletion. I create a new filter for .

All work ok and I don't have this strange sub-folder anymore. 

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Re: Strange filter in Sorting Office/Filters - interesting quirk

[Mike Smith]

At Thursday, May 16, 2002, 3:45:34 AM, Marck wrote:
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> Hi bemos,

> @15 May 2002, 01:33:50 +0800 (18:33 UK time) bemos wrote in
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>>   i have one strange filter in sorting office / filters, it called
>>   "" i can't delete that, is this something to do with the
>>   klez virus ?

> No. It's a new addition to the Sorting office to allow you to do a
> quick filter for "anyone in your address book" - an anti-spam device.
> Just disable the filter if you don't want to use it.

Interesting quirk if you use this to transfer to a folder that isn't
under any accounts - say you have one called 'Friends' - is that the
identity of that folder is (initially) blank.  This can be interesting if you have
different users - it seems to pick the first name out of the drop-down
list for From and Reply-To - possibly awkward and embarrassing when
you reply to an email in this folder. :)


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How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the same incomingmessage

[Daniel Grunberg]

For the sake of this discussion, I am looking for incoming e-mails
with "YES" or "NO" in their subjects. Both of the filters work, but
they act as EXCLUSIVE-ORs. I'd like them to act as INCLUSIVE-ORs.

My YES filter moves all YES e-mails to a TheBat! YES folder, and
exports their messages (per a YES export template), adding them to a
file called c:\YES.

My NO filter moves all NO e-mails to a TheBat! NO folder, and exports
their messages (per a NO export template), adding them to a file
called c:\NO.

Occasionally, an e-mail arrives that has both YES and NO in its
subject. (This is not an error, but it does not happen often.) I'd
like such an e-mail to to be moved to both the TheBat! YES folder and
the TheBat! NO folder, and to have its message exported their messages
(per the appropriate export templates), adding them to both file
c:\YES and file c:\NO. In other words I'd like both the YES filter and
the NO filter to act on such a message.

Since the order of my filters is first YES then NO, I tried checking
the Continue Processing with Other Filters option of the YES filter.
That didn't work. Is there something I must do in addition to checking
the option?

Next I tried putting a new YES and NO filter ahead of the YES filter.
This met with partial success. I was able to Move the Message to the
YES folder and Create a (un-parked) copy of the Message in the NO
folder. I was able to export the message into c:\YES, but I could not
export the message into c:\NO.

What should I do?


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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

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Hi Daniel,

@5-Mar-2003, 09:38 -0500 (14:38 UK time) Daniel Grunberg [DG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 ... 

DG> Since the order of my filters is first YES then NO, I tried checking
DG> the Continue Processing with Other Filters option of the YES filter.
DG> That didn't work. Is there something I must do in addition to checking
DG> the option?

Yes.

 ... 

DG> What should I do?

YES and NO filters should appear first. Both should "continue
processing". Both should move messages to "Inbox". Both should
"Create a copy" of the message in the required folder. Add a new
YESNO filter after these two that deletes the original message now
that processing is complete.


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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Daniel,

> Occasionally, an e-mail arrives that has both YES and NO in its
> subject. (This is not an error, but it does not happen often.) I'd
> like such an e-mail to to be moved to both the TheBat! YES folder and
> the TheBat! NO folder, and to have its message exported their messages
> (per the appropriate export templates), adding them to both file
> c:\YES and file c:\NO. In other words I'd like both the YES filter and
> the NO filter to act on such a message.

If your YES filter is before the NO one, on the Options tab of the YES
one select "Continue processing with other filters".

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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Miguel,

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:57:50 +0100 GMT (05/03/03, 21:57 +0700 GMT),
Miguel A. Urech wrote:

> If your YES filter is before the NO one, on the Options tab of the YES
> one select "Continue processing with other filters".

This won't work, because the YES filter has already moved the message.
If a filter moves a message, no following filter can touch it.

I believe Marck's solution is right on target, though.

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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Thomas,

> This won't work, because the YES filter has already moved the message.
> If a filter moves a message, no following filter can touch it.

You're right. I do something similar but I forgot that on the first
one I move from Inbox to Inbox and just _copy_ to desired folder.

Sorry :(

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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

[Daniel Grunberg]

Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:54:31 [GMT +] (9:54 AM EST here) Marck D
Pearlstone wrote:

>  ... 

DG>> Since the order of my filters is first YES then NO, I tried checking
DG>> the Continue Processing with Other Filters option of the YES filter.
DG>> That didn't work. Is there something I must do in addition to checking
DG>> the option?

> Yes.

>  ... 

DG>> What should I do?

> YES and NO filters should appear first. Both should "continue
> processing". Both should move messages to "Inbox". Both should
> "Create a copy" of the message in the required folder.

Is there a way to park the created copies automatically?

> Add a new YESNO filter after these two that deletes the original
> message now that processing is complete.

Thank you Marck. Everything worked as I wanted it to, except for the
automatic parking.


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Re: How to get two Sorting Office Filters to act on the sameincoming message

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Daniel,

@5-Mar-2003, 16:43 -0500 (21:43 UK time) Daniel Grunberg [DG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>> YES and NO filters should appear first. Both should "continue
>> processing". Both should move messages to "Inbox". Both should
>> "Create a copy" of the message in the required folder.

DG> Is there a way to park the created copies automatically?

Not AFAIK. Can you try parking the message in the filter that
creates the copy then unparking it in the delete filter? Will that
work? Probably not. I think that "parked" is an "index" attribute
rather than a "message" attribute.

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