RE: [Texascavers] Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980
Something that's more amazing to me is that I was there when it happened. I was staying about two miles away in a Holiday Inn and never knew it until I got back home and saw it on the news. I was down from Fort Worth, working for Gearhart Industries modifying some oilfield logging equipment at the Lafayette Office. There's a good chance if the disaster hadn't happened, Gearhart would have performed the logging operations for that Texico well. Hydrocarbons, Oil and Gas tend to settle at the top of salt domes so it's very common to drill into the top of them. Believe it or not, a lot of West Texas wells are drilled into salt domes (not to mention the gulf coast). It's also common to mine salt domes by flushing the salt out. In a few cases, the salt hasn't been replaced with water to fill the void causing collapses. Butch From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980 The most dramatic collapse of a salt dome--due to human error--occured at Lake Peigneur LA on Nov 20, 1980. Incredible film/video footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI (snip from Wikipedia) On November 20, 1980, when the disaster took place, the Diamond Crystal Salt Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargill operated the Jefferson Island salt mine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_mine under the lake, while a Texaco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texaco oil rig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_platform drilled down from the surface of the lake searching for petroleum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum . Due to a miscalculation, the 14-inch (36 cm) drill bit entered the mine, starting a chain of events which turned an almost 10-foot (3.0 m) deep freshwater lake into a salt water lake with a deep hole. It is difficult to determine exactly what occurred, as all of the evidence was destroyed or washed away in the ensuing maelstrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelstrom . One explanation is that a miscalculation by Texaco regarding their location resulted in the drill puncturing the roof of the third level of the mine. This created an opening in the bottom of the lake. The lake then drained into the hole, expanding the size of that hole as the soil and salt were washed into the mine by the rushing water, filling the enormous caverns left by the removal of salt over the years. The resultant whirlpool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool sucked in the drilling platform, eleven barges, many trees and 65 acres (260,000 m2) of the surrounding terrain. So much water drained into those caverns that the flow of the Delcambre Canal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delcambre_Canal that usually empties the lake into Vermilion Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bay_%28Louisiana%29 was reversed, making the canal a temporary inlet. This backflow created, for a few days, the tallest waterfall ever in the state of Louisiana, at 164 feet (50 m), as the lake refilled with salt water from the Delcambre Canal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delcambre_Canal and Vermilion Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bay_%28Louisiana%29 . The water downflowing into the mine caverns displaced air which erupted as compressed air and then later as 400-foot (120 m) geysers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geyser up through the mineshafts.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur#cite_note-h-4 There were no injuries and no human lives lost. All 55 employees in the mine at the time of the accident were able to escape thanks to well-planned and rehearsed evacuation drills, while the staff of the drilling rig fled the platform before it was sucked down into the new depths of the lake, and Leonce Viator, Jr. (a local fisherman) was able to drive his small boat to the shore and get out.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur#cite_note-h-4 Three dogs were reported killed, however. Days after the disaster, once the water pressure equalized, nine of the eleven sunken barges http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barge popped out of the whirlpool and refloated on the lake's surface.
[Texascavers] Twitter related
Below are some observations I noted after spending about 4 hours on Twitter this past week. The 2014 NSS convention has a Twitter page @2014NSScon. That is a good way of quickly getting out an important announcement to the cavers on Twitter. The NSS, NCKRI, SCCi and a few grottos, have Twitter pages. At least 20 Texas cavers ( whose names I recognize ) have a Twitter account, but few are following the NSS. There are spammers on Twitter, that follow you. It seems ridiculous that the average Twitter user could follow more than a thousand pages. But I can see how someone who is heavily involved in caving organizations could be following 4,000 Twitter sites, and have even more followers. Obviously, few people have spare time to actually read all the tweets they are following. An example of a good tweet would be, virgin passage just now found in Kiwi Sink. Unfortunately, most of the tweets I see are just info re-posted from other sites and is old news. To many tweets are sarcastic immature post about something silly. I still do not feel like I have a grasp of Twitter, eventhough it is far simpler than other social media sites. The best site I know of is the Mars Curiosity page. David Locklear @dlocklear01
[Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure
Carapace failure materials - for bugs that need a leak. FYI - I have used Boric Acid crystals (needle-like things) for that purpose since I returned to Alpine in 1972 with a refrigerator from Austin, that also brought along a seed population of German Cockroaches. I hauled them in Terry Raines' old stock trailer (overloaded, of course), whose axle fell off shortly after we got to the hill country -- but that is yet another story. Boric Acid crystals work even better than diatomaceous earth . I still have a pint canister. Bought 25 pounds at some rediculuous low price in Austin. I think from a chemical supply house - that was the smallest quantity they would sell to me. I claimed some sort of University research, if I remember correctly. It used to be sold at 500x the price as Roach Prufe, which I think you can still buy for about $5 a pound. I think I saw it at Ace Hdwr. That should be cheap enough even for cavers. DirtDoc - Original Message - From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure
Hi DD, I've never used boric acid Xtals. Is it safe to use around pets? I've found something that is safe and works for me, so I'm sticking with it. Thanks for the recommendation, however. Louise Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:33:54 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: power_lou...@hotmail.com CC: t.b.sam...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure Carapace failure materials - for bugs that need a leak. FYI - I have used Boric Acid crystals (needle-like things) for that purpose since I returned to Alpine in 1972 with a refrigerator from Austin, that also brought along a seed population of German Cockroaches. I hauled them in Terry Raines' old stock trailer (overloaded, of course), whose axle fell off shortly after we got to the hill country -- but that is yet another story. Boric Acid crystals work even better than diatomaceous earth. I still have a pint canister. Bought 25 pounds at some rediculuous low price in Austin. I think from a chemical supply house - that was the smallest quantity they would sell to me. I claimed some sort of University research, if I remember correctly. It used to be sold at 500x the price as Roach Prufe, which I think you can still buy for about $5 a pound. I think I saw it at Ace Hdwr. That should be cheap enough even for cavers. DirtDoc From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise
texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2013 20:54:23 -0000 Issue 1830
texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2013 20:54:23 - Issue 1830 Topics (messages 22504 through 22516): Re: New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants 22504 by: Louise Power 22508 by: Ted Samsel 22512 by: Louise Power Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks 22505 by: Julia Germany 22506 by: Stefan Creaser 22507 by: Fofo 22509 by: Charles Goldsmith 22511 by: Louise Power Re: Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980 22510 by: Butch Fralia Twitter related 22513 by: David Re:Carapace failure 22514 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 22515 by: Louise Power Update ver 3.5 22516 by: Gill Edigar Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Oh heck, I was hoping the guy's name was Tawny Crazy. Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:59:21 -0500 From: george.nincehel...@gmail.com To: germa...@aol.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants I've just been trying to sort out the name. Apparently Rasberry (not RasPberry) comes from the name of the exterminator who discovered them. I'm not clear if Crazy is part of the preferred common name or not. Crazy would seem to refer to their erratic behavior. Why the change to Tawny Crazy? I've no idea. Here's another link helpful link: http://urbanentomology.tamu.edu/ants/rasberry.html On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard! ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard! ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Ted, I recommended to Julia that she try food grade diatomaceous earth: in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:35:27 -0500 From: t.b.sam...@gmail.com To:
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
hehehehhehehe -Original Message- From: Gary McDaniel scar...@gmail.com To: Gill Edigar gi...@att.net Cc: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 4:03 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5 How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
Acceptably well. Thanks for asking. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Gary McDaniel scar...@gmail.com wrote: How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
[Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I recommend Mac's for the same reason. Hey, what happened to Thou shalt not flame?!? On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
ROFL. You know what's sad, I said something I really regret back in 1997 and someone made this to remind me of it when I bought my first mac in 2006. http://wokka.org/pics/gaymac.jpg I jumped on the mac bandwagon when they went to Intel processors, it was the best move they have ever made. Plus the whole virus issue on PC's these days, a mac is the best defense. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Joe Ranzau jran...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend Mac's for the same reason. Hey, what happened to Thou shalt not flame?!? On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Some of us still even use hotmail. It goes thru outlook, but the address still works and it has a fierce junk mail filter. From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: germa...@aol.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:04:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Charles, My computer pro recommended Kaspersky after my Mac got malware. No problems since. What is your exprience with Kaspersky? Louise From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:56:06 -0500 To: f...@gzluna.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
We use it at work, it seems to be too bloated. I use both of my mac's very hard, browsing sites that i shouldn't, never worrying about it. I've never had a malware on either nor had any odd issues with them. I know there is malware out there for them, but i just don't worry about it, due to how the security is done on the mac. I find it very hard to believe that you had malware. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote: Charles, My computer pro recommended Kaspersky after my Mac got malware. No problems since. What is your exprience with Kaspersky? Louise -- From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:56:06 -0500 To: f...@gzluna.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
All I have to say is that this is the ONLY personal email address I have ever had since Al Gore invented the Internet. NEVER got a virus, Trojans or other evils because I am vigilant about using protection provided by both AOL and Norton. If you knew what version of Windows I am running you would die from laughter, so I won't share. TCR needs its cook extraordinaire. julia germany AOL user since version 1.0 -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 2:05 am Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Speaking of fierce junk mail filters, less than 2% of junk mail makes it to my account - the rest is in the AOL spam folder. -Original Message- From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Julia Germany germa...@aol.com; texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 12:27 pm Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Some of us still even use hotmail. It goes thru outlook, but the address still works and it has a fierce junk mail filter. From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: germa...@aol.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:04:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Thank you for the info Charles. Glad to know your opinion of AOL. SOO many people give me crap for using it, but you eloquently stated what I try to tell them. julia -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: Fofo f...@gzluna.com Cc: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Accident analysis ?
I presume an independent qualified caver is preparing an accident analysis for caver consumption. Could the severity of the accident been reduced ? In hindsight, what could have been improved ? It seems worth noting for a historical perspective that prior to the accident another nearby dig was postponed due to extreme summer heat and because local cavers were on summer vacations. Ironically, the victim was more aware of that than typical cavers. Age and experience do not appear to be factors, as the victim can easily find witnesses to his qualifications. Right ? What was the temperature in the cave ? How much water had the victim drank ? My personal experience, is that if a person is over-exerting themselves, and then decides to immediatly stop, that the heart freaks out. Is that the case here ? What kind of rest had the victim had in the hours before the event ? Was the victim feeling well in the hour prior to the fall ? What will the victim and other cavers do to improve safety ? Is an accident at a digging operation really a caving accident ? Should the Texas Caver publish the analysis once it is has been properly dissected ? How did the communications of responders differ from accidents in the past in central Texas ? Meaning did CaveTex help ? or Facebook ? Or phone-texting ? Did a phone with 3G help ? Did I Ieave out anything out ? Once the victim was out of the cave, everything with the treatment of the victim was uneventful. Right ? David Locklear NSS #27639
[Texascavers] Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature Science Center
Job offerings in Austin From: clk724 clark.hanc...@ci.austin.tx.us Subject: [camn] Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature Science Center Hi Guys, Wanted to let ya'll know about two positions that you might be interested in: First is a full-time position at the Beverly S. Sheffield Center at Barton Springs – close date 8/27 https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39123 The other is a 20 hour position at the Austin nature Science Center running the Naturalist Workshop and Trade Counter – close date 9/05 https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39184 Please pass on to anyone who might be interested Clark Hancock, MPAff, CIT Exhibit Collections Coordinator Austin Nature Science Center 301 Nature Center Dr. Austin, TX 78746 (512) 974-3870 (fax) (512) 974-3885 work schedule: Tues - Sat Everybody experiences far more than he understands. Yet it is experience, rather than understanding, that influences behavior. Marshall McLuhan __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic
Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants
Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard!
RE: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants
Ted, I recommended to Julia that she try food grade diatomaceous earth: in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:35:27 -0500 From: t.b.sam...@gmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard!
RE: [Texascavers] Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980
Something that's more amazing to me is that I was there when it happened. I was staying about two miles away in a Holiday Inn and never knew it until I got back home and saw it on the news. I was down from Fort Worth, working for Gearhart Industries modifying some oilfield logging equipment at the Lafayette Office. There's a good chance if the disaster hadn't happened, Gearhart would have performed the logging operations for that Texico well. Hydrocarbons, Oil and Gas tend to settle at the top of salt domes so it's very common to drill into the top of them. Believe it or not, a lot of West Texas wells are drilled into salt domes (not to mention the gulf coast). It's also common to mine salt domes by flushing the salt out. In a few cases, the salt hasn't been replaced with water to fill the void causing collapses. Butch From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980 The most dramatic collapse of a salt dome--due to human error--occured at Lake Peigneur LA on Nov 20, 1980. Incredible film/video footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI (snip from Wikipedia) On November 20, 1980, when the disaster took place, the Diamond Crystal Salt Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargill operated the Jefferson Island salt mine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_mine under the lake, while a Texaco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texaco oil rig http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_platform drilled down from the surface of the lake searching for petroleum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum . Due to a miscalculation, the 14-inch (36 cm) drill bit entered the mine, starting a chain of events which turned an almost 10-foot (3.0 m) deep freshwater lake into a salt water lake with a deep hole. It is difficult to determine exactly what occurred, as all of the evidence was destroyed or washed away in the ensuing maelstrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelstrom . One explanation is that a miscalculation by Texaco regarding their location resulted in the drill puncturing the roof of the third level of the mine. This created an opening in the bottom of the lake. The lake then drained into the hole, expanding the size of that hole as the soil and salt were washed into the mine by the rushing water, filling the enormous caverns left by the removal of salt over the years. The resultant whirlpool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool sucked in the drilling platform, eleven barges, many trees and 65 acres (260,000 m2) of the surrounding terrain. So much water drained into those caverns that the flow of the Delcambre Canal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delcambre_Canal that usually empties the lake into Vermilion Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bay_%28Louisiana%29 was reversed, making the canal a temporary inlet. This backflow created, for a few days, the tallest waterfall ever in the state of Louisiana, at 164 feet (50 m), as the lake refilled with salt water from the Delcambre Canal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delcambre_Canal and Vermilion Bay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bay_%28Louisiana%29 . The water downflowing into the mine caverns displaced air which erupted as compressed air and then later as 400-foot (120 m) geysers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geyser up through the mineshafts.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur#cite_note-h-4 There were no injuries and no human lives lost. All 55 employees in the mine at the time of the accident were able to escape thanks to well-planned and rehearsed evacuation drills, while the staff of the drilling rig fled the platform before it was sucked down into the new depths of the lake, and Leonce Viator, Jr. (a local fisherman) was able to drive his small boat to the shore and get out.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Peigneur#cite_note-h-4 Three dogs were reported killed, however. Days after the disaster, once the water pressure equalized, nine of the eleven sunken barges http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barge popped out of the whirlpool and refloated on the lake's surface.
[Texascavers] Twitter related
Below are some observations I noted after spending about 4 hours on Twitter this past week. The 2014 NSS convention has a Twitter page @2014NSScon. That is a good way of quickly getting out an important announcement to the cavers on Twitter. The NSS, NCKRI, SCCi and a few grottos, have Twitter pages. At least 20 Texas cavers ( whose names I recognize ) have a Twitter account, but few are following the NSS. There are spammers on Twitter, that follow you. It seems ridiculous that the average Twitter user could follow more than a thousand pages. But I can see how someone who is heavily involved in caving organizations could be following 4,000 Twitter sites, and have even more followers. Obviously, few people have spare time to actually read all the tweets they are following. An example of a good tweet would be, virgin passage just now found in Kiwi Sink. Unfortunately, most of the tweets I see are just info re-posted from other sites and is old news. To many tweets are sarcastic immature post about something silly. I still do not feel like I have a grasp of Twitter, eventhough it is far simpler than other social media sites. The best site I know of is the Mars Curiosity page. David Locklear @dlocklear01
[Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure
Carapace failure materials - for bugs that need a leak. FYI - I have used Boric Acid crystals (needle-like things) for that purpose since I returned to Alpine in 1972 with a refrigerator from Austin, that also brought along a seed population of German Cockroaches. I hauled them in Terry Raines' old stock trailer (overloaded, of course), whose axle fell off shortly after we got to the hill country -- but that is yet another story. Boric Acid crystals work even better than diatomaceous earth . I still have a pint canister. Bought 25 pounds at some rediculuous low price in Austin. I think from a chemical supply house - that was the smallest quantity they would sell to me. I claimed some sort of University research, if I remember correctly. It used to be sold at 500x the price as Roach Prufe, which I think you can still buy for about $5 a pound. I think I saw it at Ace Hdwr. That should be cheap enough even for cavers. DirtDoc - Original Message - From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure
Hi DD, I've never used boric acid Xtals. Is it safe to use around pets? I've found something that is safe and works for me, so I'm sticking with it. Thanks for the recommendation, however. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:33:54 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: power_lou...@hotmail.com CC: t.b.sam...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Re:Carapace failure Carapace failure materials - for bugs that need a leak. FYI - I have used Boric Acid crystals (needle-like things) for that purpose since I returned to Alpine in 1972 with a refrigerator from Austin, that also brought along a seed population of German Cockroaches. I hauled them in Terry Raines' old stock trailer (overloaded, of course), whose axle fell off shortly after we got to the hill country -- but that is yet another story. Boric Acid crystals work even better than diatomaceous earth. I still have a pint canister. Bought 25 pounds at some rediculuous low price in Austin. I think from a chemical supply house - that was the smallest quantity they would sell to me. I claimed some sort of University research, if I remember correctly. It used to be sold at 500x the price as Roach Prufe, which I think you can still buy for about $5 a pound. I think I saw it at Ace Hdwr. That should be cheap enough even for cavers. DirtDoc From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise
texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2013 20:54:23 -0000 Issue 1830
texascavers Digest 24 Aug 2013 20:54:23 - Issue 1830 Topics (messages 22504 through 22516): Re: New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants 22504 by: Louise Power 22508 by: Ted Samsel 22512 by: Louise Power Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks 22505 by: Julia Germany 22506 by: Stefan Creaser 22507 by: Fofo 22509 by: Charles Goldsmith 22511 by: Louise Power Re: Salt Dome drains Lake Peigneur, LA 1980 22510 by: Butch Fralia Twitter related 22513 by: David Re:Carapace failure 22514 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 22515 by: Louise Power Update ver 3.5 22516 by: Gill Edigar Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Oh heck, I was hoping the guy's name was Tawny Crazy. List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:59:21 -0500 From: george.nincehel...@gmail.com To: germa...@aol.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants I've just been trying to sort out the name. Apparently Rasberry (not RasPberry) comes from the name of the exterminator who discovered them. I'm not clear if Crazy is part of the preferred common name or not. Crazy would seem to refer to their erratic behavior. Why the change to Tawny Crazy? I've no idea. Here's another link helpful link: http://urbanentomology.tamu.edu/ants/rasberry.html On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard! ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard! ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Ted, I recommended to Julia that she try food grade diatomaceous earth: in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date:
[Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
hehehehhehehe -Original Message- From: Gary McDaniel scar...@gmail.com To: Gill Edigar gi...@att.net Cc: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 4:03 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5 How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] Update ver 3.5
Acceptably well. Thanks for asking. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Gary McDaniel scar...@gmail.com wrote: How's the pooping? -G On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: 3-1/2 week update (24 Aug 2013). Last Wednesday made 3 weeks since I fell. For the most part there was not much pain after the first week--which included, of course, some high-powered prescription drugs, none of which I liked very much for their many negative side effects. By the time 3 weeks had passed I'd abandoned the scripts and was just taking OTC 200mg ibuprofen. By Wednesday last I'd also abandoned those, as well, except I took one at bedtime last night on account of being tired after futzing around most of the day and helping Galen with his bumper project--mostly doing design work. I still can't lay on my side without getting the feeling I'm overstressing something that's not quite ready to be stressed so I sleep on my back in the hospital bed adjusted with the head end a bit elevated. I normally never sleep on my back--except when taking a nap on the couch and want to wake up soon. Last Monday I walked 6 blocks to the CVS and back and Wednesday hiked about a half mile from Sao Paulo cafe to the Grotto (cave club) meeting and then back again after the meeting to the Posse for a cold beer, the first alcohol of any kind I'd drunk since the fall. Yesterday I had a Ranger beer and hardly noticed it. Also, last Wednesday I got Galen to cut off the skraggly-ass hair I'd been growing since the 2012 NSS Convention. The last few days I've had but very little sensitivity to any kind of stress or movement. I can tell the ribs are still weak but they seem to be mending beyond my expectations. Maybe I'll be ready to get back to physical labor in 2 more weeks. --Ediger
[Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I recommend Mac's for the same reason. Hey, what happened to Thou shalt not flame?!? On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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ROFL. You know what's sad, I said something I really regret back in 1997 and someone made this to remind me of it when I bought my first mac in 2006. http://wokka.org/pics/gaymac.jpg I jumped on the mac bandwagon when they went to Intel processors, it was the best move they have ever made. Plus the whole virus issue on PC's these days, a mac is the best defense. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Joe Ranzau jran...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend Mac's for the same reason. Hey, what happened to Thou shalt not flame?!? On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote: Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Some of us still even use hotmail. It goes thru outlook, but the address still works and it has a fierce junk mail filter. From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: germa...@aol.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:04:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Charles, My computer pro recommended Kaspersky after my Mac got malware. No problems since. What is your exprience with Kaspersky? Louise From: wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:56:06 -0500 To: f...@gzluna.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
We use it at work, it seems to be too bloated. I use both of my mac's very hard, browsing sites that i shouldn't, never worrying about it. I've never had a malware on either nor had any odd issues with them. I know there is malware out there for them, but i just don't worry about it, due to how the security is done on the mac. I find it very hard to believe that you had malware. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote: Charles, My computer pro recommended Kaspersky after my Mac got malware. No problems since. What is your exprience with Kaspersky? Louise -- From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:56:06 -0500 To: f...@gzluna.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
I'm not sure where my malware came from. I, too, spend hours on mine doing genealogy research. So I hook into a lot of personal and public sites. I've used a Mac since the mid-80s and never had a problem. This malware occurred a couple of years ago. Fortunately my computer pro is just a few blocks from my house. They specialize in Macs although they sell other brands. He said that at the time my infection occurred, somebody was out there creating malware especially for Macs. He cleaned up my machine,installed Kaspersky and, as Quick Draw McGraw used to say, Viola! No more malware. From: wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:44:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks To: power_lou...@hotmail.com We use it at work, it seems to be too bloated. I use both of my mac's very hard, browsing sites that i shouldn't, never worrying about it. I've never had a malware on either nor had any odd issues with them. I know there is malware out there for them, but i just don't worry about it, due to how the security is done on the mac. I find it very hard to believe that you had malware. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Charles, My computer pro recommended Kaspersky after my Mac got malware. No problems since. What is your exprience with Kaspersky? Louise From: wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:56:06 -0500 To: f...@gzluna.com CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
All I have to say is that this is the ONLY personal email address I have ever had since Al Gore invented the Internet. NEVER got a virus, Trojans or other evils because I am vigilant about using protection provided by both AOL and Norton. If you knew what version of Windows I am running you would die from laughter, so I won't share. TCR needs its cook extraordinaire. julia germany AOL user since version 1.0 -Original Message- From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 2:05 am Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Never got a MySpace account. Reluctantly joined the FaceBook thing - but it seems to be the only way I can find out anything about my family. Hell, I am barely in the 21st century. I really am a CaveFrau when it comes to technology.. -Original Message- From: Fofo f...@gzluna.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 6:30 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Speaking of fierce junk mail filters, less than 2% of junk mail makes it to my account - the rest is in the AOL spam folder. -Original Message- From: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Julia Germany germa...@aol.com; texas cavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 12:27 pm Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Some of us still even use hotmail. It goes thru outlook, but the address still works and it has a fierce junk mail filter. From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: germa...@aol.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:04:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks
Thank you for the info Charles. Glad to know your opinion of AOL. SOO many people give me crap for using it, but you eloquently stated what I try to tell them. julia -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: Fofo f...@gzluna.com Cc: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Actually, as a geek and someone who works with computers a lot, I've been recommending people to AOL for a few years now. That company has been a joke for quite a while, but, they are actually doing a good thing these days. Now, before you laugh, let me explain. Most people don't have the knowledge necessary to keep their computer in working order, how to get rid of malware, viruses, spyware, trojans, etc. Most people have no clue what those are. There are a LOT of products out there that claim they can get rid of all of them, and most of them don't work very well or not at all. Some even add more to your computer. Aol's software protects you from all of that, and it does a fairly good job of it. That's why I've been recommending AOL to people who don't know how to take care of their own computer. I recommend Mac's for the same reason. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: I know! It's really surprising, but they are still around. It says right there on their MySpace page. - Fofo On 24/08/2013, at 00:04, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All i have to say is... Do people *still* use AOL?!!! -Stefan From: Julia Germany [germa...@aol.com] Sent: 24 August 2013 01:49 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Emails to Julia Germany the past couple of weeks Hi All! First, I apologize if you are unnecessarily receiving this email. It only pertains to anyone who sent me emails with pictures, attachments or embedded links. If you are one those people, and my email bounced back, PLEASE RESEND the information. I recently upgraded the version of AOL I am using and for the first time EVER with an upgrade, it made a ton of changes to my account, most specifically, deciding that I should not receive the above described emails. ARGH. Many of you have contacted me to let me know you were having trouble, so please resend the information. I just tested out my revised settings by sending every variety of email that has been rejected recently from my biz account, and finally, with ease and speed, I received all of these emails. Looking forward to reading the things I missed. Thanks in advance for resending. And to those who found this an unnecessary email, I apologize again. Be grateful for the delete key :) julia -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Accident analysis ?
I presume an independent qualified caver is preparing an accident analysis for caver consumption. Could the severity of the accident been reduced ? In hindsight, what could have been improved ? It seems worth noting for a historical perspective that prior to the accident another nearby dig was postponed due to extreme summer heat and because local cavers were on summer vacations. Ironically, the victim was more aware of that than typical cavers. Age and experience do not appear to be factors, as the victim can easily find witnesses to his qualifications. Right ? What was the temperature in the cave ? How much water had the victim drank ? My personal experience, is that if a person is over-exerting themselves, and then decides to immediatly stop, that the heart freaks out. Is that the case here ? What kind of rest had the victim had in the hours before the event ? Was the victim feeling well in the hour prior to the fall ? What will the victim and other cavers do to improve safety ? Is an accident at a digging operation really a caving accident ? Should the Texas Caver publish the analysis once it is has been properly dissected ? How did the communications of responders differ from accidents in the past in central Texas ? Meaning did CaveTex help ? or Facebook ? Or phone-texting ? Did a phone with 3G help ? Did I Ieave out anything out ? Once the victim was out of the cave, everything with the treatment of the victim was uneventful. Right ? David Locklear NSS #27639
[Texascavers] Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature Science Center
Job offerings in Austin From: clk724 clark.hanc...@ci.austin.tx.us Subject: [camn] Job listings at Splash and the Austin Nature Science Center Hi Guys, Wanted to let ya'll know about two positions that you might be interested in: First is a full-time position at the Beverly S. Sheffield Center at Barton Springs – close date 8/27 https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39123 The other is a 20 hour position at the Austin nature Science Center running the Naturalist Workshop and Trade Counter – close date 9/05 https://www.austincityjobs.org/postings/39184 Please pass on to anyone who might be interested Clark Hancock, MPAff, CIT Exhibit Collections Coordinator Austin Nature Science Center 301 Nature Center Dr. Austin, TX 78746 (512) 974-3870 (fax) (512) 974-3885 work schedule: Tues - Sat Everybody experiences far more than he understands. Yet it is experience, rather than understanding, that influences behavior. Marshall McLuhan __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic
Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants
Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard!
RE: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants
Ted, I recommended to Julia that she try food grade diatomaceous earth: in your home you can use diatomaceous earth to kill ants among other insects. It's not toxic to humans or pets, but it is to things like ants, weevils (they use it in grain silos), fleas, silverfish, etc. It abrades the carapace and they bleed to death. I use it at my doors and window sills along with ground cinnamon. I also stir up ant hills and cover them with DE. Ants won't cross cinnamon and they just flip over in DE turn their legs up to the sky and get little Xs in their eyes. If anyone else is interested, I can recommend a website. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:35:27 -0500 From: t.b.sam...@gmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New Invasvive Species - Raspberry Ants / aka Tawny Ants Evil pesticide? Toxic is a bit more science-driven. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: At last weekend's TCMA meeting, Matt Turner gave a very interesting report about the rapid spread of the Tawny Ant, formerly known as the Raspberry Ant, after the man who identified them. Had Matt not previously asked me to like the Tawny Ant FB page, I would not have known what he was talking about and why cavers should be concerned. He has been monitoring them inside and outside of Whirlpool Cave (Austin) as well as other caves in the area for a long time, and they are starting to have serious effects on the caves and the crickets. The current solution is an evil pesticide that will only cause more problems for caves. While watching the 10:00 pm Houston ABC local news tonight, they did a story about these invasive ants. It's worth the few minutes the story lasts to watch and learn more: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/consumerid=9215910 For even more info, contact Matt Turner. Sorry, I don't have his email address. julia germany - Houston home owner who will vigilantly be on the look out for these invasive ants in my potted plants, and around my yard!
