[Texascavers] Trying to reach Bill Stephens

[Geary Schindel]

I trying to reach Bill Stephens.

Can someone send me Bill's new contact information off line.  I understand that 
he has moved from Wichita Falls to the Dallas area. If you could send me his 
phone number, that would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel

[Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina

[Geary Schindel]

Be careful out there.

G

Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a 
few weeks ago.   This location would be about five to ten miles east of the 
town of Medina in northern Bandera County.


http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0




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[Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina

[Geary Schindel]

Be careful out there.

G

Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a 
few weeks ago.   This location would be about five to ten miles east of the 
town of Medina in northern Bandera County.


http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0




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[Texascavers] Mountain lion killed on highway by town of Medina

[Geary Schindel]

Be careful out there.

G

Here is a link to the Bandera Bulletin article; this lion was killed by a car a 
few weeks ago.   This location would be about five to ten miles east of the 
town of Medina in northern Bandera County.


http://www.banderabulletin.com/news/article_145e60bc-1ec8-11e2-a92d-0019bb2963f4.html?photo=0




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[Texascavers] NSS Webinar, Geary Schindel speaker on Edwards Aquifer of Texas

[Geary Schindel]

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“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”


Join us for a Webinar on November 5


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_registerNow.gif]


Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/664445319


The Edwards Aquifer is one of the most prolific karst aquifers in the United 
States. The Edwards is the primary water source for more than two million 
people in the San Antonio area and also provides water for industry, 
agriculture, and recreational purposes. Water discharging from the aquifer 
forms Comal and San Marcos springs, two of the largest springs in the 
southwestern US and provides habitat for a number of endangered species. 
Development pressures on the aquifer threaten caves, recharge, and water 
quality. Pumping of water from the aquifer threatens discharge from the 
springs. This presentation will discuss some of the management and research 
issues of this important karst aquifer.


Title:

“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”

Date:

Monday, November 5, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CST (Which is 7pm Mountain time, and 6pm Pacific time)


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Mac®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer


Mobile attendees
Required: iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ phone or Android tablet

[Texascavers] NSS Webinar, Geary Schindel speaker on Edwards Aquifer of Texas

[Geary Schindel]

[http://www4.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/664445319/350814518944691799/embed.jpg]


“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”


Join us for a Webinar on November 5


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_registerNow.gif]


Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/664445319


The Edwards Aquifer is one of the most prolific karst aquifers in the United 
States. The Edwards is the primary water source for more than two million 
people in the San Antonio area and also provides water for industry, 
agriculture, and recreational purposes. Water discharging from the aquifer 
forms Comal and San Marcos springs, two of the largest springs in the 
southwestern US and provides habitat for a number of endangered species. 
Development pressures on the aquifer threaten caves, recharge, and water 
quality. Pumping of water from the aquifer threatens discharge from the 
springs. This presentation will discuss some of the management and research 
issues of this important karst aquifer.


Title:

“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”

Date:

Monday, November 5, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CST (Which is 7pm Mountain time, and 6pm Pacific time)


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Mac®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer


Mobile attendees
Required: iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ phone or Android tablet

[Texascavers] NSS Webinar, Geary Schindel speaker on Edwards Aquifer of Texas

[Geary Schindel]

[http://www4.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/664445319/350814518944691799/embed.jpg]


“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”


Join us for a Webinar on November 5


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_registerNow.gif]


Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/664445319


The Edwards Aquifer is one of the most prolific karst aquifers in the United 
States. The Edwards is the primary water source for more than two million 
people in the San Antonio area and also provides water for industry, 
agriculture, and recreational purposes. Water discharging from the aquifer 
forms Comal and San Marcos springs, two of the largest springs in the 
southwestern US and provides habitat for a number of endangered species. 
Development pressures on the aquifer threaten caves, recharge, and water 
quality. Pumping of water from the aquifer threatens discharge from the 
springs. This presentation will discuss some of the management and research 
issues of this important karst aquifer.


Title:

“The Edwards Aquifer of South Central Texas – An Aquifer Under Stress”

Date:

Monday, November 5, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CST (Which is 7pm Mountain time, and 6pm Pacific time)


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Mac®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer


Mobile attendees
Required: iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ phone or Android tablet

[Texascavers] RE: For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Also, If you are going to GSA, here is an opportunity to ask Stephanie about 
the new 404 program to help fund the purchase of a new headquarters and library 
in Huntsville, Alabama.

Geary

From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:51 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual 
Meeting & Exposition -

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] RE: For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Also, If you are going to GSA, here is an opportunity to ask Stephanie about 
the new 404 program to help fund the purchase of a new headquarters and library 
in Huntsville, Alabama.

Geary

From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:51 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual 
Meeting & Exposition -

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] RE: For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Also, If you are going to GSA, here is an opportunity to ask Stephanie about 
the new 404 program to help fund the purchase of a new headquarters and library 
in Huntsville, Alabama.

Geary

From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:51 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual 
Meeting & Exposition -

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] For those on Texas Cavers going to GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

[Geary Schindel]

Reminder! GSA 2012 Annual Meeting & Exposition -

I'll be representing the NSS at the 2012 Geosciences Annual Meeting & 
Exposition, November 4th - 7th, in Charlotte, NC. Please stop by my booth #737 
and support your NSS Bookstore!   I hope to see you there!!

Stephanie Searles
NSS Operations Manager
National Speleological Society
2813 Cave Avenue
Huntsville, Alabama 35810 USA

P.S.

Stephanie will have part of the NSS Bookstore at the conference.

Geary

[Texascavers] FW: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

[Geary Schindel]

Thanks to David Stennsen for the link,

FYI,

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day (October 17, 2012).

Subject: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day - visit www.nature.nps.gov

Paste the following link to hear the National Fossil Day Song:

www.nature.nps.gov/geology/nationalfossilday/photos_multimedia.cfm

Great little song, no Fritz, don't take it personally.

Enjoy!

Geary


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[Texascavers] FW: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

[Geary Schindel]

Thanks to David Stennsen for the link,

FYI,

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day (October 17, 2012).

Subject: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day - visit www.nature.nps.gov

Paste the following link to hear the National Fossil Day Song:

www.nature.nps.gov/geology/nationalfossilday/photos_multimedia.cfm

Great little song, no Fritz, don't take it personally.

Enjoy!

Geary


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[Texascavers] FW: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

[Geary Schindel]

Thanks to David Stennsen for the link,

FYI,

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day (October 17, 2012).

Subject: National Fossil Day Song - For Your Enjoyment

Today is the third annual National Fossil Day - visit www.nature.nps.gov

Paste the following link to hear the National Fossil Day Song:

www.nature.nps.gov/geology/nationalfossilday/photos_multimedia.cfm

Great little song, no Fritz, don't take it personally.

Enjoy!

Geary


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[Texascavers] FW: NSS Webinar looking to showcase grottos.

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought you would like to see this post on the new NSS Webinar. Max Barker is 
looking to showcase some grottos.  Thought I would send this along as there are 
some great grottos in Texas.  A couple of great programs I can think of would 
be Ron Ralph and Bob Burnett and others making a presentation on the Bustamante 
Partner's program.  Maybe the Honey Creek tank haul project, the Colorado Bend 
project, TCMA, TCC, TSA, and TSS talking about their groups.  In addition, I 
think the Texas Cavers movie would be a great program as well as early caving 
in Mexico.  These programs will be saved to the NSS webpage for future viewing 
and may become a source for future grotto programs.

Debbie Spoons, the Acting Chair of the New Webinar Committee is also looking 
for programs to take to a national audience.  If you would like to make a 
presentation on a caving project, caving trip, or any other topic that is cave 
related, please contact Debbie or Max below.  Please think of some of the great 
grotto programs you've seen, find the presenter, and twist their arms for a 
program.

For more information, contact Debbie or Max below.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

Max Barker
m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>

Debbie Spoons
ddsp...@yahoo.com


Grotto Chairman & Chairs,
The NSS has begun a new educational webinar series.  The purpose is to educate, 
enlighten, and share experiences and knowledge with other cavers, and future 
cavers and other interested parties.  Web based seminar topics ranging from 
science expeditions, research projects to youth training and local events are 
being planned. These presentations will all be presented live via the internet 
and will be recorded and stored on the NSS website. This library of webinars 
will become a valuable resource since they will be accessible to NSS members 
and Grottos for future viewing.

One of the topics of the webinars is "Grotto Showcasing". I have volunteered to 
be the Section Manager for this topic. The goal of this is to give Grottos the 
opportunity to show off.  Please consider presenting subjects like mapping and 
surveying projects, group trips, conservation projects, training programs, 
community outreach, educational presentations, regional gatherings, etc. It 
doesn't have to be a "huge or sophisticated" project or event to be presented.  
Just simply share something exciting and/or interesting that your group has 
done.

Giving a presentation is surprisingly simple:

 *   The only equipment you will need is a computer for your material, a phone, 
and a good internet connection.
 *   You do not have to be a professional or a public speaker to do a great job.
 *   Topics can include almost any caving subject.
 *   The time slot is between 45 to 90 minutes. Easy to fill when talking about 
caving!
 *   Presentations can be given via power point, video streaming, slide shows 
etc.

I will help you with any concerns or questions you may have and I will be 
willing to review what you are presenting before hand to avoid any issues.

Please contact me with your questions and to set up a presentation time and 
date. My email address is m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>.

Cave safely
Max Barker
Max Barker [m...@darkwave.us]

[Texascavers] FW: NSS Webinar looking to showcase grottos.

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought you would like to see this post on the new NSS Webinar. Max Barker is 
looking to showcase some grottos.  Thought I would send this along as there are 
some great grottos in Texas.  A couple of great programs I can think of would 
be Ron Ralph and Bob Burnett and others making a presentation on the Bustamante 
Partner's program.  Maybe the Honey Creek tank haul project, the Colorado Bend 
project, TCMA, TCC, TSA, and TSS talking about their groups.  In addition, I 
think the Texas Cavers movie would be a great program as well as early caving 
in Mexico.  These programs will be saved to the NSS webpage for future viewing 
and may become a source for future grotto programs.

Debbie Spoons, the Acting Chair of the New Webinar Committee is also looking 
for programs to take to a national audience.  If you would like to make a 
presentation on a caving project, caving trip, or any other topic that is cave 
related, please contact Debbie or Max below.  Please think of some of the great 
grotto programs you've seen, find the presenter, and twist their arms for a 
program.

For more information, contact Debbie or Max below.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

Max Barker
m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>

Debbie Spoons
ddsp...@yahoo.com


Grotto Chairman & Chairs,
The NSS has begun a new educational webinar series.  The purpose is to educate, 
enlighten, and share experiences and knowledge with other cavers, and future 
cavers and other interested parties.  Web based seminar topics ranging from 
science expeditions, research projects to youth training and local events are 
being planned. These presentations will all be presented live via the internet 
and will be recorded and stored on the NSS website. This library of webinars 
will become a valuable resource since they will be accessible to NSS members 
and Grottos for future viewing.

One of the topics of the webinars is "Grotto Showcasing". I have volunteered to 
be the Section Manager for this topic. The goal of this is to give Grottos the 
opportunity to show off.  Please consider presenting subjects like mapping and 
surveying projects, group trips, conservation projects, training programs, 
community outreach, educational presentations, regional gatherings, etc. It 
doesn't have to be a "huge or sophisticated" project or event to be presented.  
Just simply share something exciting and/or interesting that your group has 
done.

Giving a presentation is surprisingly simple:

 *   The only equipment you will need is a computer for your material, a phone, 
and a good internet connection.
 *   You do not have to be a professional or a public speaker to do a great job.
 *   Topics can include almost any caving subject.
 *   The time slot is between 45 to 90 minutes. Easy to fill when talking about 
caving!
 *   Presentations can be given via power point, video streaming, slide shows 
etc.

I will help you with any concerns or questions you may have and I will be 
willing to review what you are presenting before hand to avoid any issues.

Please contact me with your questions and to set up a presentation time and 
date. My email address is m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>.

Cave safely
Max Barker
Max Barker [m...@darkwave.us]

[Texascavers] FW: NSS Webinar looking to showcase grottos.

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought you would like to see this post on the new NSS Webinar. Max Barker is 
looking to showcase some grottos.  Thought I would send this along as there are 
some great grottos in Texas.  A couple of great programs I can think of would 
be Ron Ralph and Bob Burnett and others making a presentation on the Bustamante 
Partner's program.  Maybe the Honey Creek tank haul project, the Colorado Bend 
project, TCMA, TCC, TSA, and TSS talking about their groups.  In addition, I 
think the Texas Cavers movie would be a great program as well as early caving 
in Mexico.  These programs will be saved to the NSS webpage for future viewing 
and may become a source for future grotto programs.

Debbie Spoons, the Acting Chair of the New Webinar Committee is also looking 
for programs to take to a national audience.  If you would like to make a 
presentation on a caving project, caving trip, or any other topic that is cave 
related, please contact Debbie or Max below.  Please think of some of the great 
grotto programs you've seen, find the presenter, and twist their arms for a 
program.

For more information, contact Debbie or Max below.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

Max Barker
m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>

Debbie Spoons
ddsp...@yahoo.com


Grotto Chairman & Chairs,
The NSS has begun a new educational webinar series.  The purpose is to educate, 
enlighten, and share experiences and knowledge with other cavers, and future 
cavers and other interested parties.  Web based seminar topics ranging from 
science expeditions, research projects to youth training and local events are 
being planned. These presentations will all be presented live via the internet 
and will be recorded and stored on the NSS website. This library of webinars 
will become a valuable resource since they will be accessible to NSS members 
and Grottos for future viewing.

One of the topics of the webinars is "Grotto Showcasing". I have volunteered to 
be the Section Manager for this topic. The goal of this is to give Grottos the 
opportunity to show off.  Please consider presenting subjects like mapping and 
surveying projects, group trips, conservation projects, training programs, 
community outreach, educational presentations, regional gatherings, etc. It 
doesn't have to be a "huge or sophisticated" project or event to be presented.  
Just simply share something exciting and/or interesting that your group has 
done.

Giving a presentation is surprisingly simple:

 *   The only equipment you will need is a computer for your material, a phone, 
and a good internet connection.
 *   You do not have to be a professional or a public speaker to do a great job.
 *   Topics can include almost any caving subject.
 *   The time slot is between 45 to 90 minutes. Easy to fill when talking about 
caving!
 *   Presentations can be given via power point, video streaming, slide shows 
etc.

I will help you with any concerns or questions you may have and I will be 
willing to review what you are presenting before hand to avoid any issues.

Please contact me with your questions and to set up a presentation time and 
date. My email address is m...@darkwave.us<mailto:m...@darkwave.us>.

Cave safely
Max Barker
Max Barker [m...@darkwave.us]

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Guys,

Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting a Canon T3i and I'm real happy with 
it.  Used it for a road trip from Oregon, down the California Coast, through 
S.F., to Yosemite, Mono Lake, Bishop, Death Valley, to Vegas and on to 
Flagstaff were we left Aspen.

Got it from B&H Photo and they delivered it in time for the trip.  Just bought 
the camera body as I already had the lens.

Thanks for all the advice.

Geary

From: George D. Nincehelser [mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Pete Lindsley; James Jasek; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:
So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It's not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com<mailto:a...@oztotl.com>]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Guys,

Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting a Canon T3i and I'm real happy with 
it.  Used it for a road trip from Oregon, down the California Coast, through 
S.F., to Yosemite, Mono Lake, Bishop, Death Valley, to Vegas and on to 
Flagstaff were we left Aspen.

Got it from B&H Photo and they delivered it in time for the trip.  Just bought 
the camera body as I already had the lens.

Thanks for all the advice.

Geary

From: George D. Nincehelser [mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Pete Lindsley; James Jasek; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:
So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It's not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com<mailto:a...@oztotl.com>]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Guys,

Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting a Canon T3i and I'm real happy with 
it.  Used it for a road trip from Oregon, down the California Coast, through 
S.F., to Yosemite, Mono Lake, Bishop, Death Valley, to Vegas and on to 
Flagstaff were we left Aspen.

Got it from B&H Photo and they delivered it in time for the trip.  Just bought 
the camera body as I already had the lens.

Thanks for all the advice.

Geary

From: George D. Nincehelser [mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:28 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Allan B. Cobb; Pete Lindsley; James Jasek; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:
So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It's not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com<mailto:a...@oztotl.com>]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

[Texascavers] two job openings at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San Antonio, Texas

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Note that there are two positions open at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San 
Antonio, Texas.  One is an Environmental Coordinator Position and the second 
one is an Administrative Assistant for the HCP. Please note the closing dates 
are coming up soon.

Please check their web page for more information at 
www.edwardsaquifer.org or 
http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment


Geary

[Texascavers] two job openings at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San Antonio, Texas

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Note that there are two positions open at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San 
Antonio, Texas.  One is an Environmental Coordinator Position and the second 
one is an Administrative Assistant for the HCP. Please note the closing dates 
are coming up soon.

Please check their web page for more information at 
www.edwardsaquifer.org or 
http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment


Geary

[Texascavers] two job openings at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San Antonio, Texas

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Note that there are two positions open at the Edwards Aquifer Authority in San 
Antonio, Texas.  One is an Environmental Coordinator Position and the second 
one is an Administrative Assistant for the HCP. Please note the closing dates 
are coming up soon.

Please check their web page for more information at 
www.edwardsaquifer.org or 
http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment


Geary

RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

That may be the longest I've ever seen, good luck posting it in your browser if 
it doesn't link automatically.

G

From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:58 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection 
Program in San Antonio

They need a longer and more complicated link, Geary!

Sheesh!

Mark


From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:57 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program 
in San Antonio

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov<mailto:grant.el...@sanantonio.gov>

RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

That may be the longest I've ever seen, good luck posting it in your browser if 
it doesn't link automatically.

G

From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:58 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection 
Program in San Antonio

They need a longer and more complicated link, Geary!

Sheesh!

Mark


From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:57 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program 
in San Antonio

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov<mailto:grant.el...@sanantonio.gov>

RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

That may be the longest I've ever seen, good luck posting it in your browser if 
it doesn't link automatically.

G

From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:58 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection 
Program in San Antonio

They need a longer and more complicated link, Geary!

Sheesh!

Mark


From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:57 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program 
in San Antonio

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov<mailto:grant.el...@sanantonio.gov>

[Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov

[Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov

[Texascavers] Job annoucement for Edwards Aquifer Protection Program in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Someone just passed this on and thought that some folks out there in internet 
land might be interested.

Geary

+++

I just wanted to notify you all that the job announcement for the Edwards 
Aquifer Protection Program's Management Analyst position has been posted and is 
available via the link below.  We are looking for someone with solid natural 
resources and GIS experience, so please feel free to forward this announcement 
along to anyone you know who may be interested in the position.  The posting 
will run until Wednesday, September 19th.  Thanks very much.  -Grant


Job announcement:

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/sanantoniotx/default.cfm?action=viewjob&JobID=521282&headerfooter=1&promo=0&transfer=0&WDDXJobSearchParams=%3CwddxPacket%20version%3D%271%2E0%27%3E%3Cheader%2F%3E%3Cdata%3E%3Cstruct%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27CATEGORYID%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%2D1%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27PROMOTIONALJOBS%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27TRANSFER%27%3E%3Cstring%3E0%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3Cvar%20name%3D%27FIND%5FKEYWORD%27%3E%3Cstring%3E%3C%2Fstring%3E%3C%2Fvar%3E%3C%2Fstruct%3E%3C%2Fdata%3E%3C%2FwddxPacket%3E


Grant Ellis
Special Projects Manager, CIMS
Edwards Aquifer Protection Program
City of San Antonio
114 W. Commerce, 2nd Floor
San Antonio, TX 78205
Ph: 210-207-2815
Fax: 210-207-7888
Email: grant.el...@sanantonio.gov

[Texascavers] Position open at Government Canyon State National Area

[Geary Schindel]

Position open at Government Canyon State Natural Area, San Antonio


Please spread the word about this position that is open to the public at Govt. 
Canyon State Natural Area.  Please read the Minimum Qualification Requirements. 
 Chris Holm will be the hiring contact person:

Chris Holm
Superintendent,
Government Canyon State Natural Area
12861 Galm Road
San Antonio, TX 78254
210-688-9055, x290






Maintenance Specialist III


SALARY:

$2,412.58 /Month



OPENING DATE: 08/30/12


CLOSING DATE: 09/14/12 05:00 PM


DIVISION: State Parks


WORK ADDRESS: Government Canyon SNA, 12861 Galm Road, San Antonio, TX 78254


HIRING CONTACT: Chris Holm, (210) 688-9055 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 
(210) 688-9055 end_of_the_skype_highlighting



GENERAL DESCRIPTION:


NOTE: Reposted position. Now open to External applicants. Previous applicants 
will be considered and need not reapply.

Under the direction of the Lead Maintenance Specialist, this position is 
responsible for the daily operation and maintenance of park facilities, 
grounds, equipment operations and visitor services. Operates all types of 
equipment such as trucks, tractors, mowers and power tools. Provides quality 
visitor services by issuing permits, fee collection, providing information and 
registering visitors using a computerized registration and point of sale 
system. Responsible for financial management functions with regard to field 
office purchasing. Assists in enforcing park rules and regulations, performs 
resource management tasks and interprets the parks natural resources. Performs 
additional duties as assigned. Complies with all Agency, Division, and Branch 
rules, regulations, and procedures.

POSTING NUMBER: 12-00-581



QUALIFICATION GUIDELINES:

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   Graduation from High School or GED.
Experience:

 *   Three years facility, equipment or grounds maintenance experience.
Licensure:

 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within 30 days of employment, a valid 
class "C" Texas driver's license;
 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within one year of employment, a valid 
Non-Commercial Pesticides Agricultural Applicator License issued by the Texas 
Department of Agriculture (TDA).
NOTE: Retention of position is contingent on obtaining and maintaining required 
licenses.
ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTIONS:
Experience:

 *   Thirty semester hours from an accredited college or university may 
substitute for one year of the required experience, with a maximum substitution 
of two years.
PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   College coursework in Recreation & Parks, Wildlife Biology, Forestry, 
Geology, Archeology or related field.
Experience:

 *   Experience working with the public;
 *   Customer service and public relations experience;
 *   Experience collecting fees from customers.
Licensure:

 *   A valid class "A" Texas Commercial driver's license;
 *   A current Fire Fighter Type II certification under the Wildland and 
Prescribed Fire Qualification System Guide and TPWD standards, issued by the 
National Wildfire Coordinating Group's (NWCG).



KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITIES:


 *   Knowledge of building and facility repair techniques such as carpentry, 
plumbing, electrical or mechanical;
 *   Knowledge of general facility, equipment and grounds maintenance 
techniques and repairs;
 *   Skill in using various hand and power tools, mowers, trimmers, chain saws, 
tractors, vehicles, generators, and other mechanical equipment;
 *   Skill in effective verbal and written communication;
 *   Skill in using MS Word, Excel and Outlook;
 *   Skill in making independent, sound, timely decisions;
 *   Ability to work effectively with the public and co-workers in a fast-paced 
environment;
 *   Ability to utilize personal computers and related software;
 *   Ability to work independently with little or no supervision;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.;
 *   Ability to apply pesticides and herbicides in a safe manner and in 
accordance with state regulations;
 *   Ability to accurately collect fees from visitors utilizing a computerized 
point of sale system;
 *   Ability to conduct work activities in accordance with TPWD safety program.



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

WORKING CONDITIONS:

 *   Required to work in a public park with overnight camping and day use;
 *   Required to work 40 hours per week, includes various schedules with hours 
other than 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., and days off other than Saturdays, Sundays 
and holidays;
 *   Required to travel with possible overnight stays;
 *   Required to respond to emergency situations;
 *   Required to perform work outdoors, occasionally in adverse weather 
conditions and rugged terrain;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS:

 *   Submit online application: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/jobs.
 *   Work history experience MUS

[Texascavers] Position open at Government Canyon State National Area

[Geary Schindel]

Position open at Government Canyon State Natural Area, San Antonio


Please spread the word about this position that is open to the public at Govt. 
Canyon State Natural Area.  Please read the Minimum Qualification Requirements. 
 Chris Holm will be the hiring contact person:

Chris Holm
Superintendent,
Government Canyon State Natural Area
12861 Galm Road
San Antonio, TX 78254
210-688-9055, x290






Maintenance Specialist III


SALARY:

$2,412.58 /Month



OPENING DATE: 08/30/12


CLOSING DATE: 09/14/12 05:00 PM


DIVISION: State Parks


WORK ADDRESS: Government Canyon SNA, 12861 Galm Road, San Antonio, TX 78254


HIRING CONTACT: Chris Holm, (210) 688-9055 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 
(210) 688-9055 end_of_the_skype_highlighting



GENERAL DESCRIPTION:


NOTE: Reposted position. Now open to External applicants. Previous applicants 
will be considered and need not reapply.

Under the direction of the Lead Maintenance Specialist, this position is 
responsible for the daily operation and maintenance of park facilities, 
grounds, equipment operations and visitor services. Operates all types of 
equipment such as trucks, tractors, mowers and power tools. Provides quality 
visitor services by issuing permits, fee collection, providing information and 
registering visitors using a computerized registration and point of sale 
system. Responsible for financial management functions with regard to field 
office purchasing. Assists in enforcing park rules and regulations, performs 
resource management tasks and interprets the parks natural resources. Performs 
additional duties as assigned. Complies with all Agency, Division, and Branch 
rules, regulations, and procedures.

POSTING NUMBER: 12-00-581



QUALIFICATION GUIDELINES:

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   Graduation from High School or GED.
Experience:

 *   Three years facility, equipment or grounds maintenance experience.
Licensure:

 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within 30 days of employment, a valid 
class "C" Texas driver's license;
 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within one year of employment, a valid 
Non-Commercial Pesticides Agricultural Applicator License issued by the Texas 
Department of Agriculture (TDA).
NOTE: Retention of position is contingent on obtaining and maintaining required 
licenses.
ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTIONS:
Experience:

 *   Thirty semester hours from an accredited college or university may 
substitute for one year of the required experience, with a maximum substitution 
of two years.
PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   College coursework in Recreation & Parks, Wildlife Biology, Forestry, 
Geology, Archeology or related field.
Experience:

 *   Experience working with the public;
 *   Customer service and public relations experience;
 *   Experience collecting fees from customers.
Licensure:

 *   A valid class "A" Texas Commercial driver's license;
 *   A current Fire Fighter Type II certification under the Wildland and 
Prescribed Fire Qualification System Guide and TPWD standards, issued by the 
National Wildfire Coordinating Group's (NWCG).



KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITIES:


 *   Knowledge of building and facility repair techniques such as carpentry, 
plumbing, electrical or mechanical;
 *   Knowledge of general facility, equipment and grounds maintenance 
techniques and repairs;
 *   Skill in using various hand and power tools, mowers, trimmers, chain saws, 
tractors, vehicles, generators, and other mechanical equipment;
 *   Skill in effective verbal and written communication;
 *   Skill in using MS Word, Excel and Outlook;
 *   Skill in making independent, sound, timely decisions;
 *   Ability to work effectively with the public and co-workers in a fast-paced 
environment;
 *   Ability to utilize personal computers and related software;
 *   Ability to work independently with little or no supervision;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.;
 *   Ability to apply pesticides and herbicides in a safe manner and in 
accordance with state regulations;
 *   Ability to accurately collect fees from visitors utilizing a computerized 
point of sale system;
 *   Ability to conduct work activities in accordance with TPWD safety program.



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

WORKING CONDITIONS:

 *   Required to work in a public park with overnight camping and day use;
 *   Required to work 40 hours per week, includes various schedules with hours 
other than 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., and days off other than Saturdays, Sundays 
and holidays;
 *   Required to travel with possible overnight stays;
 *   Required to respond to emergency situations;
 *   Required to perform work outdoors, occasionally in adverse weather 
conditions and rugged terrain;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS:

 *   Submit online application: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/jobs.
 *   Work history experience MUS

[Texascavers] Position open at Government Canyon State National Area

[Geary Schindel]

Position open at Government Canyon State Natural Area, San Antonio


Please spread the word about this position that is open to the public at Govt. 
Canyon State Natural Area.  Please read the Minimum Qualification Requirements. 
 Chris Holm will be the hiring contact person:

Chris Holm
Superintendent,
Government Canyon State Natural Area
12861 Galm Road
San Antonio, TX 78254
210-688-9055, x290






Maintenance Specialist III


SALARY:

$2,412.58 /Month



OPENING DATE: 08/30/12


CLOSING DATE: 09/14/12 05:00 PM


DIVISION: State Parks


WORK ADDRESS: Government Canyon SNA, 12861 Galm Road, San Antonio, TX 78254


HIRING CONTACT: Chris Holm, (210) 688-9055 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 
(210) 688-9055 end_of_the_skype_highlighting



GENERAL DESCRIPTION:


NOTE: Reposted position. Now open to External applicants. Previous applicants 
will be considered and need not reapply.

Under the direction of the Lead Maintenance Specialist, this position is 
responsible for the daily operation and maintenance of park facilities, 
grounds, equipment operations and visitor services. Operates all types of 
equipment such as trucks, tractors, mowers and power tools. Provides quality 
visitor services by issuing permits, fee collection, providing information and 
registering visitors using a computerized registration and point of sale 
system. Responsible for financial management functions with regard to field 
office purchasing. Assists in enforcing park rules and regulations, performs 
resource management tasks and interprets the parks natural resources. Performs 
additional duties as assigned. Complies with all Agency, Division, and Branch 
rules, regulations, and procedures.

POSTING NUMBER: 12-00-581



QUALIFICATION GUIDELINES:

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   Graduation from High School or GED.
Experience:

 *   Three years facility, equipment or grounds maintenance experience.
Licensure:

 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within 30 days of employment, a valid 
class "C" Texas driver's license;
 *   Must possess or be able to obtain, within one year of employment, a valid 
Non-Commercial Pesticides Agricultural Applicator License issued by the Texas 
Department of Agriculture (TDA).
NOTE: Retention of position is contingent on obtaining and maintaining required 
licenses.
ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTIONS:
Experience:

 *   Thirty semester hours from an accredited college or university may 
substitute for one year of the required experience, with a maximum substitution 
of two years.
PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS:
Education:

 *   College coursework in Recreation & Parks, Wildlife Biology, Forestry, 
Geology, Archeology or related field.
Experience:

 *   Experience working with the public;
 *   Customer service and public relations experience;
 *   Experience collecting fees from customers.
Licensure:

 *   A valid class "A" Texas Commercial driver's license;
 *   A current Fire Fighter Type II certification under the Wildland and 
Prescribed Fire Qualification System Guide and TPWD standards, issued by the 
National Wildfire Coordinating Group's (NWCG).



KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITIES:


 *   Knowledge of building and facility repair techniques such as carpentry, 
plumbing, electrical or mechanical;
 *   Knowledge of general facility, equipment and grounds maintenance 
techniques and repairs;
 *   Skill in using various hand and power tools, mowers, trimmers, chain saws, 
tractors, vehicles, generators, and other mechanical equipment;
 *   Skill in effective verbal and written communication;
 *   Skill in using MS Word, Excel and Outlook;
 *   Skill in making independent, sound, timely decisions;
 *   Ability to work effectively with the public and co-workers in a fast-paced 
environment;
 *   Ability to utilize personal computers and related software;
 *   Ability to work independently with little or no supervision;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.;
 *   Ability to apply pesticides and herbicides in a safe manner and in 
accordance with state regulations;
 *   Ability to accurately collect fees from visitors utilizing a computerized 
point of sale system;
 *   Ability to conduct work activities in accordance with TPWD safety program.



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

WORKING CONDITIONS:

 *   Required to work in a public park with overnight camping and day use;
 *   Required to work 40 hours per week, includes various schedules with hours 
other than 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., and days off other than Saturdays, Sundays 
and holidays;
 *   Required to travel with possible overnight stays;
 *   Required to respond to emergency situations;
 *   Required to perform work outdoors, occasionally in adverse weather 
conditions and rugged terrain;
 *   Ability to perform manual labor including, lifting supplies and materials 
up to 50 lbs.
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS:

 *   Submit online application: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/jobs.
 *   Work history experience MUS

[Texascavers] EAA Distinguished Lecture Series Announcment - Dr. Nico Goldschneider in San Antonio on September 26, 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I am pleased to announce that Professor Dr. Nico Goldschneider, Director of the 
Institute of Applied Geosciences at the University of Karlsruhe, Germany will 
be our next Distinguished Lecturer.  The lecture will take place on Wednesday, 
September 26, 2012 at Southwest Research Institute and start at 9 am and 
extends to approximately 4:30 pm.  The cost of the series is $20 and $10 for 
students. The lecture is titled "Exploration and Protection of Karst 
Groundwater Resources: Experiences from Alpine Karst Aquifer Systems."  The 
talks are geared for a wide audience ranging from the interested public to the 
practicing professional.  The lecture will be divided into six lectures on 
various topics and will include a one hour presentation on ethics in the 
geosciences field.  Lunch and refreshments are provided.  Reservations are 
required and you are encouraged to sign up early as there is limited seating.  
Approximately 120 people attend these very popular lectures.  To receive a 
flyer describing the lecture, please email me or Elida directly and we'll send 
you a copy. To register for the lecture, please email or call Elida Bocanegra 
at 210-222-2204 or 
ebocane...@edwardsaquifer.org

Thank you,

Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer - Aquifer Science

Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, TX 78215
210.222.2204
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org

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[Texascavers] EAA Distinguished Lecture Series Announcment - Dr. Nico Goldschneider in San Antonio on September 26, 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I am pleased to announce that Professor Dr. Nico Goldschneider, Director of the 
Institute of Applied Geosciences at the University of Karlsruhe, Germany will 
be our next Distinguished Lecturer.  The lecture will take place on Wednesday, 
September 26, 2012 at Southwest Research Institute and start at 9 am and 
extends to approximately 4:30 pm.  The cost of the series is $20 and $10 for 
students. The lecture is titled "Exploration and Protection of Karst 
Groundwater Resources: Experiences from Alpine Karst Aquifer Systems."  The 
talks are geared for a wide audience ranging from the interested public to the 
practicing professional.  The lecture will be divided into six lectures on 
various topics and will include a one hour presentation on ethics in the 
geosciences field.  Lunch and refreshments are provided.  Reservations are 
required and you are encouraged to sign up early as there is limited seating.  
Approximately 120 people attend these very popular lectures.  To receive a 
flyer describing the lecture, please email me or Elida directly and we'll send 
you a copy. To register for the lecture, please email or call Elida Bocanegra 
at 210-222-2204 or 
ebocane...@edwardsaquifer.org

Thank you,

Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer - Aquifer Science

Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, TX 78215
210.222.2204
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org

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[Texascavers] EAA Distinguished Lecture Series Announcment - Dr. Nico Goldschneider in San Antonio on September 26, 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I am pleased to announce that Professor Dr. Nico Goldschneider, Director of the 
Institute of Applied Geosciences at the University of Karlsruhe, Germany will 
be our next Distinguished Lecturer.  The lecture will take place on Wednesday, 
September 26, 2012 at Southwest Research Institute and start at 9 am and 
extends to approximately 4:30 pm.  The cost of the series is $20 and $10 for 
students. The lecture is titled "Exploration and Protection of Karst 
Groundwater Resources: Experiences from Alpine Karst Aquifer Systems."  The 
talks are geared for a wide audience ranging from the interested public to the 
practicing professional.  The lecture will be divided into six lectures on 
various topics and will include a one hour presentation on ethics in the 
geosciences field.  Lunch and refreshments are provided.  Reservations are 
required and you are encouraged to sign up early as there is limited seating.  
Approximately 120 people attend these very popular lectures.  To receive a 
flyer describing the lecture, please email me or Elida directly and we'll send 
you a copy. To register for the lecture, please email or call Elida Bocanegra 
at 210-222-2204 or 
ebocane...@edwardsaquifer.org

Thank you,

Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer - Aquifer Science

Edwards Aquifer Authority
1615 N. St. Mary's Street
San Antonio, TX 78215
210.222.2204
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org

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RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

[Geary Schindel]

Bill,

Have any suggestions on where to buy these on line.  Considering the number of 
batteries I've run through, time to reinvest in rechargeable.

Geary

From: Bill Walden [mailto:wdwal...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:43 AM
To: Marvin and Lisa; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

I have been using the same set of Energizer 2700 mAHh rechargeable batteries 
for at least 4 years for multiple caving trips per month in my Apex headlamps 
(at least 4 headlamps over the 4 years - the batteries have outlasted 3 Apex 
headlamps). I always charge these batteries the night before a trip because the 
charge will decay over time. Over the years the capacity has decreased from 
enough to last an 8 to 12 hour cave trip to about 6 hours. My suggestions:
Don't consider buying rechargeable batteries at Wal-Mart - most of the packages 
of batteries they sell are not labeled with the capacity and if the package is 
labeled it is typically a low rating (less than 2000 mAh).

The Sanyo batteries recommended by Marvin sound good. These batteries represent 
a new generation of nickle metal hydride batteries that hold their charge much 
better than my old Energizers.

Don't buy nicad batteries as they have a memory effect.

Carefully check the milliampere hour rating of the batteries. As mentioned most 
rechargeable batteries sold by Wal-Mart are not labelled or the capacity label 
is covered by the packaging. I will not purchase rechargeable batteries with a 
rating of less than 2500 mAh. The most recent batch of AA batteries I purchased 
 are rated at 2900 mAh.

Best to use a slow charger rather than a fast charger. The battery charger I 
use is a "smart" charger - that is it senses the charge on each cell. Once a 
cell is fully charged, the charger switches to a trickle charge rate (enough to 
maintain the battery at full charge). My charger works off a 120 volt wall 
outlet or a 12 volt automobile outlet. Charge batteries day before a cave trip 
to maximum duration.

I use the nickel metal hydride AA batteries for my photo equipment: 3 
floodlights each requiring 6 AA batteries, 4 strobe lights each requiring 4 AA 
batteries, and 3 high intensity LED flashlights each requiring 2 AA batteries 
(With the reflector removed these flashlights are great for macro photography!).

Don't waste your money buying alkaline batteries.

Best regards,
Bill Walden


On 8/7/2012 11:11 PM, Marvin and Lisa wrote:
I have heard some good things about Sanyo's Eneloops. They are supposed to hold 
their charge for a long time and Sanyo claims they can be recharged 1500 times. 
I've started using them but haven't had enough experience to definitely qualify 
them. Whatever you do, don't waste money on Energizer or Duracell rechargeables.

Marvin


From: James Jasek [mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:30 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries
I am interested in making the change to rechargeable AA and AAA Batteries for 
my cave light and for electronic strobe. Anyone got any opinions on how they 
compare to the Alkaline Batteries. Do the new rechargeables have the memory 
problems of the past? Do they last as long and preform as well,  and what brand 
is the best.

Thanks,

James Jasek

RE: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

[Geary Schindel]

Bill,

Have any suggestions on where to buy these on line.  Considering the number of 
batteries I've run through, time to reinvest in rechargeable.

Geary

From: Bill Walden [mailto:wdwal...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:43 AM
To: Marvin and Lisa; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

I have been using the same set of Energizer 2700 mAHh rechargeable batteries 
for at least 4 years for multiple caving trips per month in my Apex headlamps 
(at least 4 headlamps over the 4 years - the batteries have outlasted 3 Apex 
headlamps). I always charge these batteries the night before a trip because the 
charge will decay over time. Over the years the capacity has decreased from 
enough to last an 8 to 12 hour cave trip to about 6 hours. My suggestions:
Don't consider buying rechargeable batteries at Wal-Mart - most of the packages 
of batteries they sell are not labeled with the capacity and if the package is 
labeled it is typically a low rating (less than 2000 mAh).

The Sanyo batteries recommended by Marvin sound good. These batteries represent 
a new generation of nickle metal hydride batteries that hold their charge much 
better than my old Energizers.

Don't buy nicad batteries as they have a memory effect.

Carefully check the milliampere hour rating of the batteries. As mentioned most 
rechargeable batteries sold by Wal-Mart are not labelled or the capacity label 
is covered by the packaging. I will not purchase rechargeable batteries with a 
rating of less than 2500 mAh. The most recent batch of AA batteries I purchased 
 are rated at 2900 mAh.

Best to use a slow charger rather than a fast charger. The battery charger I 
use is a "smart" charger - that is it senses the charge on each cell. Once a 
cell is fully charged, the charger switches to a trickle charge rate (enough to 
maintain the battery at full charge). My charger works off a 120 volt wall 
outlet or a 12 volt automobile outlet. Charge batteries day before a cave trip 
to maximum duration.

I use the nickel metal hydride AA batteries for my photo equipment: 3 
floodlights each requiring 6 AA batteries, 4 strobe lights each requiring 4 AA 
batteries, and 3 high intensity LED flashlights each requiring 2 AA batteries 
(With the reflector removed these flashlights are great for macro photography!).

Don't waste your money buying alkaline batteries.

Best regards,
Bill Walden


On 8/7/2012 11:11 PM, Marvin and Lisa wrote:
I have heard some good things about Sanyo's Eneloops. They are supposed to hold 
their charge for a long time and Sanyo claims they can be recharged 1500 times. 
I've started using them but haven't had enough experience to definitely qualify 
them. Whatever you do, don't waste money on Energizer or Duracell rechargeables.

Marvin


From: James Jasek [mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:30 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries
I am interested in making the change to rechargeable AA and AAA Batteries for 
my cave light and for electronic strobe. Anyone got any opinions on how they 
compare to the Alkaline Batteries. Do the new rechargeables have the memory 
problems of the past? Do they last as long and preform as well,  and what brand 
is the best.

Thanks,

James Jasek

RE: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

[Geary Schindel]

Bill,

Have any suggestions on where to buy these on line.  Considering the number of 
batteries I've run through, time to reinvest in rechargeable.

Geary

From: Bill Walden [mailto:wdwal...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:43 AM
To: Marvin and Lisa; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries

I have been using the same set of Energizer 2700 mAHh rechargeable batteries 
for at least 4 years for multiple caving trips per month in my Apex headlamps 
(at least 4 headlamps over the 4 years - the batteries have outlasted 3 Apex 
headlamps). I always charge these batteries the night before a trip because the 
charge will decay over time. Over the years the capacity has decreased from 
enough to last an 8 to 12 hour cave trip to about 6 hours. My suggestions:
Don't consider buying rechargeable batteries at Wal-Mart - most of the packages 
of batteries they sell are not labeled with the capacity and if the package is 
labeled it is typically a low rating (less than 2000 mAh).

The Sanyo batteries recommended by Marvin sound good. These batteries represent 
a new generation of nickle metal hydride batteries that hold their charge much 
better than my old Energizers.

Don't buy nicad batteries as they have a memory effect.

Carefully check the milliampere hour rating of the batteries. As mentioned most 
rechargeable batteries sold by Wal-Mart are not labelled or the capacity label 
is covered by the packaging. I will not purchase rechargeable batteries with a 
rating of less than 2500 mAh. The most recent batch of AA batteries I purchased 
 are rated at 2900 mAh.

Best to use a slow charger rather than a fast charger. The battery charger I 
use is a "smart" charger - that is it senses the charge on each cell. Once a 
cell is fully charged, the charger switches to a trickle charge rate (enough to 
maintain the battery at full charge). My charger works off a 120 volt wall 
outlet or a 12 volt automobile outlet. Charge batteries day before a cave trip 
to maximum duration.

I use the nickel metal hydride AA batteries for my photo equipment: 3 
floodlights each requiring 6 AA batteries, 4 strobe lights each requiring 4 AA 
batteries, and 3 high intensity LED flashlights each requiring 2 AA batteries 
(With the reflector removed these flashlights are great for macro photography!).

Don't waste your money buying alkaline batteries.

Best regards,
Bill Walden


On 8/7/2012 11:11 PM, Marvin and Lisa wrote:
I have heard some good things about Sanyo's Eneloops. They are supposed to hold 
their charge for a long time and Sanyo claims they can be recharged 1500 times. 
I've started using them but haven't had enough experience to definitely qualify 
them. Whatever you do, don't waste money on Energizer or Duracell rechargeables.

Marvin


From: James Jasek [mailto:caver...@hot.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:30 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Rechargeable Batteries
I am interested in making the change to rechargeable AA and AAA Batteries for 
my cave light and for electronic strobe. Anyone got any opinions on how they 
compare to the Alkaline Batteries. Do the new rechargeables have the memory 
problems of the past? Do they last as long and preform as well,  and what brand 
is the best.

Thanks,

James Jasek

[Texascavers] sinkhole collapse captured on video

[Geary Schindel]

www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/world/2012/08/02/vo-taiwain-teipei-sinkhole.cnn

Check out the link on CNN about a catastrophic sinkhole collapse.  This poor 
guys gets swallowed alive.  Makes you want to think the next time you're 
jumping into the bottom of a sinkhole.

You may have to copy and paste this into your browser.

Geary

[Texascavers] sinkhole collapse captured on video

[Geary Schindel]

www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/world/2012/08/02/vo-taiwain-teipei-sinkhole.cnn

Check out the link on CNN about a catastrophic sinkhole collapse.  This poor 
guys gets swallowed alive.  Makes you want to think the next time you're 
jumping into the bottom of a sinkhole.

You may have to copy and paste this into your browser.

Geary

[Texascavers] sinkhole collapse captured on video

[Geary Schindel]

www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/world/2012/08/02/vo-taiwain-teipei-sinkhole.cnn

Check out the link on CNN about a catastrophic sinkhole collapse.  This poor 
guys gets swallowed alive.  Makes you want to think the next time you're 
jumping into the bottom of a sinkhole.

You may have to copy and paste this into your browser.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] fumes

[Geary Schindel]

Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues where we 
never found the substance.  A number of people got sick.  Was it because the 
first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the floor of the 
classroom.  Someone else tosses their cookies because they can't stand the 
small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes (tossed cookies) and 
then the building is evacuated.

About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it because 
they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals in use in 
society and was a real hazard.  Since the building was ventilated, the evidence 
may be gone.  Or was it food poisoning or someone eating too many cookies, was 
the person pregnant and had morning sickness but didn't want anyone to know so 
they made up the story, or was it physiological.  No one will ever know.

G

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes

The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you 
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon

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RE: [Texascavers] fumes

[Geary Schindel]

Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues where we 
never found the substance.  A number of people got sick.  Was it because the 
first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the floor of the 
classroom.  Someone else tosses their cookies because they can't stand the 
small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes (tossed cookies) and 
then the building is evacuated.

About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it because 
they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals in use in 
society and was a real hazard.  Since the building was ventilated, the evidence 
may be gone.  Or was it food poisoning or someone eating too many cookies, was 
the person pregnant and had morning sickness but didn't want anyone to know so 
they made up the story, or was it physiological.  No one will ever know.

G

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes

The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you 
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon

Forgive your enemies . . . after they are hanged.

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RE: [Texascavers] fumes

[Geary Schindel]

Bill is correct, I've worked a number of sick building syndrome issues where we 
never found the substance.  A number of people got sick.  Was it because the 
first person had a stomach bug and tossed their cookies on the floor of the 
classroom.  Someone else tosses their cookies because they can't stand the 
small of tossed cookies, and someone says they smell fumes (tossed cookies) and 
then the building is evacuated.

About $100,000 later, an investigation finds nothing conclusive. Is it because 
they didn't or couldn't test for the 10s of thousands of chemicals in use in 
society and was a real hazard.  Since the building was ventilated, the evidence 
may be gone.  Or was it food poisoning or someone eating too many cookies, was 
the person pregnant and had morning sickness but didn't want anyone to know so 
they made up the story, or was it physiological.  No one will ever know.

G

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes

The "power of suggestion" is indeed powerful. If you think fumes are making you 
sick, they very well might. -- Mixon

Forgive your enemies . . . after they are hanged.

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RE: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I agree with Bill, when using solvent based paints (or for that matter, any 
hazards material) in a confined space, it is much quicker, easier and cheaper 
to use humans to determine if you've exceeded any health related chemical 
thresholds verses real time air monitoring or canaries.  Most of the time, most 
folks become violently ill before they actually die.  While this is not the 
recommended method by the American Council of Governmental Industrial 
Hygienists, it seems to be the technique most often used by industry.  When 
employees get sick, it is probably time to give them at least a 15 minute 
break. You don't have to worry about long term exposures such as an increased 
risk of lung or blood cancers as those folks probably won't be working for you 
in 20 years anyway so not your problem.

Matter of fact, with substances such as asbestos or silica dust, by allowing 
humans in a contaminated work area without respirators, they actually help 
clean the air as the lungs retain some of the asbestos fibers or silica  (good 
for the room, bad for the lungs).  If you would like to see an excellent 
presentation on silicoses and the Hawks Nest Tunnel in West Virginia and the 
largest industrial accident in US History, you may want to visit Helen Lang's 
web page http://www.geo.wvu.edu/~lang/Geol484/HN-shorter.pdf 

I'm sure that the contractor read and followed all of the warning labels and 
safety precautions for use of the product and that it was really safe for use 
in a confined environment and that the manufacturers warning about using the 
product only in well ventilated areas was just to protect them from lawsuits.  

Using canaries for air monitoring has fallen out of favor in recent years as 
they are cute and folks get attached to them. In addition, there are a number 
of powerful animal rights groups that help protect their interests (wonder how 
that would work for humans). The correct method would be to develop a health 
and safety plan that would require proper environmental controls such as 
ventilation, selecting appropriate chemicals, using protective equipment, 
closing down the facility, and air monitoring.  However, that all costs time 
and money.

G  


 

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:40 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

The fact that a few staff "had to" be taken to hospital does not prove that 
there was any real danger or there were any real injuries, given the "excess of 
caution" (wimpishness) that prevails these days. One would have to know more to 
decide. -- Mixon

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RE: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I agree with Bill, when using solvent based paints (or for that matter, any 
hazards material) in a confined space, it is much quicker, easier and cheaper 
to use humans to determine if you've exceeded any health related chemical 
thresholds verses real time air monitoring or canaries.  Most of the time, most 
folks become violently ill before they actually die.  While this is not the 
recommended method by the American Council of Governmental Industrial 
Hygienists, it seems to be the technique most often used by industry.  When 
employees get sick, it is probably time to give them at least a 15 minute 
break. You don't have to worry about long term exposures such as an increased 
risk of lung or blood cancers as those folks probably won't be working for you 
in 20 years anyway so not your problem.

Matter of fact, with substances such as asbestos or silica dust, by allowing 
humans in a contaminated work area without respirators, they actually help 
clean the air as the lungs retain some of the asbestos fibers or silica  (good 
for the room, bad for the lungs).  If you would like to see an excellent 
presentation on silicoses and the Hawks Nest Tunnel in West Virginia and the 
largest industrial accident in US History, you may want to visit Helen Lang's 
web page http://www.geo.wvu.edu/~lang/Geol484/HN-shorter.pdf 

I'm sure that the contractor read and followed all of the warning labels and 
safety precautions for use of the product and that it was really safe for use 
in a confined environment and that the manufacturers warning about using the 
product only in well ventilated areas was just to protect them from lawsuits.  

Using canaries for air monitoring has fallen out of favor in recent years as 
they are cute and folks get attached to them. In addition, there are a number 
of powerful animal rights groups that help protect their interests (wonder how 
that would work for humans). The correct method would be to develop a health 
and safety plan that would require proper environmental controls such as 
ventilation, selecting appropriate chemicals, using protective equipment, 
closing down the facility, and air monitoring.  However, that all costs time 
and money.

G  


 

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:40 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

The fact that a few staff "had to" be taken to hospital does not prove that 
there was any real danger or there were any real injuries, given the "excess of 
caution" (wimpishness) that prevails these days. One would have to know more to 
decide. -- Mixon

Forgive your enemies . . . after they are hanged.

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RE: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I agree with Bill, when using solvent based paints (or for that matter, any 
hazards material) in a confined space, it is much quicker, easier and cheaper 
to use humans to determine if you've exceeded any health related chemical 
thresholds verses real time air monitoring or canaries.  Most of the time, most 
folks become violently ill before they actually die.  While this is not the 
recommended method by the American Council of Governmental Industrial 
Hygienists, it seems to be the technique most often used by industry.  When 
employees get sick, it is probably time to give them at least a 15 minute 
break. You don't have to worry about long term exposures such as an increased 
risk of lung or blood cancers as those folks probably won't be working for you 
in 20 years anyway so not your problem.

Matter of fact, with substances such as asbestos or silica dust, by allowing 
humans in a contaminated work area without respirators, they actually help 
clean the air as the lungs retain some of the asbestos fibers or silica  (good 
for the room, bad for the lungs).  If you would like to see an excellent 
presentation on silicoses and the Hawks Nest Tunnel in West Virginia and the 
largest industrial accident in US History, you may want to visit Helen Lang's 
web page http://www.geo.wvu.edu/~lang/Geol484/HN-shorter.pdf 

I'm sure that the contractor read and followed all of the warning labels and 
safety precautions for use of the product and that it was really safe for use 
in a confined environment and that the manufacturers warning about using the 
product only in well ventilated areas was just to protect them from lawsuits.  

Using canaries for air monitoring has fallen out of favor in recent years as 
they are cute and folks get attached to them. In addition, there are a number 
of powerful animal rights groups that help protect their interests (wonder how 
that would work for humans). The correct method would be to develop a health 
and safety plan that would require proper environmental controls such as 
ventilation, selecting appropriate chemicals, using protective equipment, 
closing down the facility, and air monitoring.  However, that all costs time 
and money.

G  


 

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:40 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] fumes in CC visitor center

The fact that a few staff "had to" be taken to hospital does not prove that 
there was any real danger or there were any real injuries, given the "excess of 
caution" (wimpishness) that prevails these days. One would have to know more to 
decide. -- Mixon

Forgive your enemies . . . after they are hanged.

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[Texascavers] Environmental Job opening in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Northside Independent School District in San Antonio has an opening for an 
Environmental Specialist.  Paste the link into your browser to view the job 
description and to apply on line.



http://info.nisd.net/human-resources/sites/default/files/job_descriptions/ENVIRONMENTAL%20SPECIALIST%20-%20FACILITIES%20%26%20OPERATIONS%20DEPT.%20009530.pdf

Geary

[Texascavers] Environmental Job opening in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Northside Independent School District in San Antonio has an opening for an 
Environmental Specialist.  Paste the link into your browser to view the job 
description and to apply on line.



http://info.nisd.net/human-resources/sites/default/files/job_descriptions/ENVIRONMENTAL%20SPECIALIST%20-%20FACILITIES%20%26%20OPERATIONS%20DEPT.%20009530.pdf

Geary

[Texascavers] Environmental Job opening in San Antonio

[Geary Schindel]

Northside Independent School District in San Antonio has an opening for an 
Environmental Specialist.  Paste the link into your browser to view the job 
description and to apply on line.



http://info.nisd.net/human-resources/sites/default/files/job_descriptions/ENVIRONMENTAL%20SPECIALIST%20-%20FACILITIES%20%26%20OPERATIONS%20DEPT.%20009530.pdf

Geary

[Texascavers] Re: Maryland and convention

[Geary Schindel]

After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. 
 There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and 
therefore no gas.  There were two stations with power in Lexington with 
moderate lines.  We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland.  There 
was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va.  My folks 
are without power but the houses behind us have power.  We have run a cord over 
to there house to keep the fridge going.  Very few gas stations in the area are 
open and some have run out of gas.  We did have a great meal using the propane 
grill

Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T

Floyd Hebert  wrote:



Hey Cavers,

I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to 
know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a 
very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no 
one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto 
members would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Floyd

[Texascavers] Re: Maryland and convention

[Geary Schindel]

After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. 
 There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and 
therefore no gas.  There were two stations with power in Lexington with 
moderate lines.  We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland.  There 
was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va.  My folks 
are without power but the houses behind us have power.  We have run a cord over 
to there house to keep the fridge going.  Very few gas stations in the area are 
open and some have run out of gas.  We did have a great meal using the propane 
grill

Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T

Floyd Hebert  wrote:



Hey Cavers,

I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to 
know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a 
very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no 
one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto 
members would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Floyd

[Texascavers] Re: Maryland and convention

[Geary Schindel]

After leaving WV, Sue, Graham, and I drove to the D.C. Area to visit the folks. 
 There was no power in Lewisburg, White Sulpher Springs, Covington and 
therefore no gas.  There were two stations with power in Lexington with 
moderate lines.  We got some gas and drinks and made it into Maryland.  There 
was power in some places in the Shanandoah valley and nerthern Va.  My folks 
are without power but the houses behind us have power.  We have run a cord over 
to there house to keep the fridge going.  Very few gas stations in the area are 
open and some have run out of gas.  We did have a great meal using the propane 
grill

Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T

Floyd Hebert  wrote:



Hey Cavers,

I'm living in Abilene, TX for the next 6 months to a year, and I interested to 
know if there are any caves in the surrounding area. I know there once was a 
very strong Abilene Grotto, but that is has long since been abandoned. If no 
one knows about any caves, contact information of some old Abilene Grotto 
members would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Floyd

RE: [Texascavers] OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!! - Change of TC Editor

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

Guess some folks couldn't resist one last chain jerking LOL.

Thanks for all your hard work on the TC, you did a great job for many years on 
the most difficult task in Texas Caving.

So, work on your tan then work on getting rid of it in some cave somewhere.

Just remember to write a trip report and turn it into the TC editor.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!! - Change of TC Editor

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

Guess some folks couldn't resist one last chain jerking LOL.

Thanks for all your hard work on the TC, you did a great job for many years on 
the most difficult task in Texas Caving.

So, work on your tan then work on getting rid of it in some cave somewhere.

Just remember to write a trip report and turn it into the TC editor.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!! - Change of TC Editor

[Geary Schindel]

Mark,

Guess some folks couldn't resist one last chain jerking LOL.

Thanks for all your hard work on the TC, you did a great job for many years on 
the most difficult task in Texas Caving.

So, work on your tan then work on getting rid of it in some cave somewhere.

Just remember to write a trip report and turn it into the TC editor.

Geary

[Texascavers] Newspaper articles

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

There have recently been a couple of  cave or caver related articles in the 
paper in San Antonio folks may find of interest.  There is an interesting 
conference going on in San Antonio regarding infectious diseases occurring in 
nature.  Yesterday, there was an interesting article on Chagus in the paper.  
Today there is an article on a young woman who is one of the first people to 
survive rabies without a vaccination using a new treatment method.

Last Saturday or Sunday, there was a nice article on snakes and snake hunting 
which featured Andy Gluesenkamp catching copper coral water rattlers or 
something like that.

You may be able to view these at www.mysa.com

Geary

[Texascavers] Newspaper articles

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

There have recently been a couple of  cave or caver related articles in the 
paper in San Antonio folks may find of interest.  There is an interesting 
conference going on in San Antonio regarding infectious diseases occurring in 
nature.  Yesterday, there was an interesting article on Chagus in the paper.  
Today there is an article on a young woman who is one of the first people to 
survive rabies without a vaccination using a new treatment method.

Last Saturday or Sunday, there was a nice article on snakes and snake hunting 
which featured Andy Gluesenkamp catching copper coral water rattlers or 
something like that.

You may be able to view these at www.mysa.com

Geary

[Texascavers] Newspaper articles

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

There have recently been a couple of  cave or caver related articles in the 
paper in San Antonio folks may find of interest.  There is an interesting 
conference going on in San Antonio regarding infectious diseases occurring in 
nature.  Yesterday, there was an interesting article on Chagus in the paper.  
Today there is an article on a young woman who is one of the first people to 
survive rabies without a vaccination using a new treatment method.

Last Saturday or Sunday, there was a nice article on snakes and snake hunting 
which featured Andy Gluesenkamp catching copper coral water rattlers or 
something like that.

You may be able to view these at www.mysa.com

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.

[Geary Schindel]

Ron,

If you can catch the thing, here is what you need to know.

Mail the package to:
Dr. Kristy Orsburn Murray
6118 Lymbar Dr.
Houston, TX 77096

Send her an email at kmur...@bcm.edu and let her know 
it's coming.

Place the bug in a zip lock bag in a hard box (Turn a small UPS priority mail 
box inside out and write her address on the box.

Let her know where you caught the bug (house, outbuilding, garden, yard, porch, 
etc)

Address where the bug was caught or GPS location.

Time and Date:

Include your name, email, and address and hopefully, she can send you the 
results.

That's it.

Geary


From: Ron R [mailto:rcrutherf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:40 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in 
Texas.

Will Chagas make you old and fat?  I always thought it was "Sitting in front of 
the computer-idus", but maybe it is Chagas!  I had a Reduviidae crawing up my 
leg yesterday.  We are all doomed!
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gill Edigar 
mailto:gi...@att.net>> wrote:
Scientific name Reduviidae, also called Assassin Bug, Blood Suckers,
and a few other things. Traditionally the South Texas/Northern Mexico
varieties did not carry Chagas. With many more human vectors these
days the odds are good that the disease could have been transported
here by now.
--Ediger

--
Ron Rutherford

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.

[Geary Schindel]

Ron,

If you can catch the thing, here is what you need to know.

Mail the package to:
Dr. Kristy Orsburn Murray
6118 Lymbar Dr.
Houston, TX 77096

Send her an email at kmur...@bcm.edu and let her know 
it's coming.

Place the bug in a zip lock bag in a hard box (Turn a small UPS priority mail 
box inside out and write her address on the box.

Let her know where you caught the bug (house, outbuilding, garden, yard, porch, 
etc)

Address where the bug was caught or GPS location.

Time and Date:

Include your name, email, and address and hopefully, she can send you the 
results.

That's it.

Geary


From: Ron R [mailto:rcrutherf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:40 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in 
Texas.

Will Chagas make you old and fat?  I always thought it was "Sitting in front of 
the computer-idus", but maybe it is Chagas!  I had a Reduviidae crawing up my 
leg yesterday.  We are all doomed!
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gill Edigar 
mailto:gi...@att.net>> wrote:
Scientific name Reduviidae, also called Assassin Bug, Blood Suckers,
and a few other things. Traditionally the South Texas/Northern Mexico
varieties did not carry Chagas. With many more human vectors these
days the odds are good that the disease could have been transported
here by now.
--Ediger

--
Ron Rutherford

RE: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.

[Geary Schindel]

Ron,

If you can catch the thing, here is what you need to know.

Mail the package to:
Dr. Kristy Orsburn Murray
6118 Lymbar Dr.
Houston, TX 77096

Send her an email at kmur...@bcm.edu and let her know 
it's coming.

Place the bug in a zip lock bag in a hard box (Turn a small UPS priority mail 
box inside out and write her address on the box.

Let her know where you caught the bug (house, outbuilding, garden, yard, porch, 
etc)

Address where the bug was caught or GPS location.

Time and Date:

Include your name, email, and address and hopefully, she can send you the 
results.

That's it.

Geary


From: Ron R [mailto:rcrutherf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:40 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in 
Texas.

Will Chagas make you old and fat?  I always thought it was "Sitting in front of 
the computer-idus", but maybe it is Chagas!  I had a Reduviidae crawing up my 
leg yesterday.  We are all doomed!
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Gill Edigar 
mailto:gi...@att.net>> wrote:
Scientific name Reduviidae, also called Assassin Bug, Blood Suckers,
and a few other things. Traditionally the South Texas/Northern Mexico
varieties did not carry Chagas. With many more human vectors these
days the odds are good that the disease could have been transported
here by now.
--Ediger

--
Ron Rutherford

[Texascavers] Nick Arburn obituary

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,
I think most of the caving community is aware of Nick Arburn's untimely passing 
last Tuesday.  Nick's obituary appeared in the San Antonio Express News this 
morning and online yesterday (June 15). You can view the online obituary at 
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sanantonio/obituary.aspx?n=nicolas-jospeh-arburn&pid=158044113&fhid=8909
In lieu of flowers, the Arburn family has asked that donations can be made to 
the Junior Speleological Society (JSS) of the National Speleological Society 
www.caves.org/donate<http://www.caves.org/donate>.
For those that are attending the NSS Convention, I would also encourage you to 
visit the JSS and volunteer your time during the convention in honor of Nick.  
The JSS organizer had to withdraw from the JSS last week for personal reasons 
and the JSS/NSS convention staff are working hard to fill the void.  Volunteers 
are always welcome and they have some excellent horizontal and vertical trips 
planned. I'm sure Nick would have been right in the middle of that.
On a personal note, I always thought that Nick was a fine young man, I have 
fond memories of him running all over the Shriner Campus at the ICS in the golf 
cart. I called him the chief gopher and general roustabout for the convention. 
He made a lot of lives easier ferrying people and materials all over campus, 
fixing things, helping where he could. He performed the same role at many TCRs. 
You could assign Nick a task and knew it was taken care of.  He was a get it 
done kind of guy.  At a recent party, he came up to me and shook my hand (as he 
always did) and we had a very nice conversation. He was good man with a great 
heart. He will be greatly missed.
Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

[Texascavers] Nick Arburn obituary

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,
I think most of the caving community is aware of Nick Arburn's untimely passing 
last Tuesday.  Nick's obituary appeared in the San Antonio Express News this 
morning and online yesterday (June 15). You can view the online obituary at 
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sanantonio/obituary.aspx?n=nicolas-jospeh-arburn&pid=158044113&fhid=8909
In lieu of flowers, the Arburn family has asked that donations can be made to 
the Junior Speleological Society (JSS) of the National Speleological Society 
www.caves.org/donate<http://www.caves.org/donate>.
For those that are attending the NSS Convention, I would also encourage you to 
visit the JSS and volunteer your time during the convention in honor of Nick.  
The JSS organizer had to withdraw from the JSS last week for personal reasons 
and the JSS/NSS convention staff are working hard to fill the void.  Volunteers 
are always welcome and they have some excellent horizontal and vertical trips 
planned. I'm sure Nick would have been right in the middle of that.
On a personal note, I always thought that Nick was a fine young man, I have 
fond memories of him running all over the Shriner Campus at the ICS in the golf 
cart. I called him the chief gopher and general roustabout for the convention. 
He made a lot of lives easier ferrying people and materials all over campus, 
fixing things, helping where he could. He performed the same role at many TCRs. 
You could assign Nick a task and knew it was taken care of.  He was a get it 
done kind of guy.  At a recent party, he came up to me and shook my hand (as he 
always did) and we had a very nice conversation. He was good man with a great 
heart. He will be greatly missed.
Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

[Texascavers] Nick Arburn obituary

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,
I think most of the caving community is aware of Nick Arburn's untimely passing 
last Tuesday.  Nick's obituary appeared in the San Antonio Express News this 
morning and online yesterday (June 15). You can view the online obituary at 
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sanantonio/obituary.aspx?n=nicolas-jospeh-arburn&pid=158044113&fhid=8909
In lieu of flowers, the Arburn family has asked that donations can be made to 
the Junior Speleological Society (JSS) of the National Speleological Society 
www.caves.org/donate<http://www.caves.org/donate>.
For those that are attending the NSS Convention, I would also encourage you to 
visit the JSS and volunteer your time during the convention in honor of Nick.  
The JSS organizer had to withdraw from the JSS last week for personal reasons 
and the JSS/NSS convention staff are working hard to fill the void.  Volunteers 
are always welcome and they have some excellent horizontal and vertical trips 
planned. I'm sure Nick would have been right in the middle of that.
On a personal note, I always thought that Nick was a fine young man, I have 
fond memories of him running all over the Shriner Campus at the ICS in the golf 
cart. I called him the chief gopher and general roustabout for the convention. 
He made a lot of lives easier ferrying people and materials all over campus, 
fixing things, helping where he could. He performed the same role at many TCRs. 
You could assign Nick a task and knew it was taken care of.  He was a get it 
done kind of guy.  At a recent party, he came up to me and shook my hand (as he 
always did) and we had a very nice conversation. He was good man with a great 
heart. He will be greatly missed.
Geary Schindel
NSS AVP

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Bill and others, I’m very sorry for the mix up, we’ll see if we can figure out 
the problem, the attachment at the bottom which I sent out yesterday has the 
correct time.  I think there may have been a screwup with time from an earlier 
announcement.  We’ll check on it and get back with everyone.

Thanks,

Geary

From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:30 PM
To: Geary Schindel; kars...@gmail.com; george.nincehel...@gmail.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Here's what I got:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_joinWebinar.gif]<https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800>


Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT




In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org<mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> writes:
Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn’t get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I’ve 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein 
[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
Texascavers@Texascavers.Com<mailto:Texascavers@Texascavers.Com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<mailto:ddspo...@yahoo.com>



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 
Server Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X

10.5 or newer










=

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Bill and others, I’m very sorry for the mix up, we’ll see if we can figure out 
the problem, the attachment at the bottom which I sent out yesterday has the 
correct time.  I think there may have been a screwup with time from an earlier 
announcement.  We’ll check on it and get back with everyone.

Thanks,

Geary

From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:30 PM
To: Geary Schindel; kars...@gmail.com; george.nincehel...@gmail.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Here's what I got:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_joinWebinar.gif]<https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800>


Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT




In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org<mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> writes:
Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn’t get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I’ve 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein 
[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
Texascavers@Texascavers.Com<mailto:Texascavers@Texascavers.Com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<mailto:ddspo...@yahoo.com>



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 
Server Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X

10.5 or newer










=

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Bill and others, I’m very sorry for the mix up, we’ll see if we can figure out 
the problem, the attachment at the bottom which I sent out yesterday has the 
correct time.  I think there may have been a screwup with time from an earlier 
announcement.  We’ll check on it and get back with everyone.

Thanks,

Geary

From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:30 PM
To: Geary Schindel; kars...@gmail.com; george.nincehel...@gmail.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Here's what I got:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_joinWebinar.gif]<https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/738011247/106607800>


Join us on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT




In a message dated 6/6/2012 10:22:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org<mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> writes:
Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn’t get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I’ve 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein 
[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kars...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; 
Texascavers@Texascavers.Com<mailto:Texascavers@Texascavers.Com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<mailto:ddspo...@yahoo.com>



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 
Server Macintosh®-based attendees Required: Mac OS® X

10.5 or newer










=

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn't get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I've 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<mailto:ddspo...@yahoo.com>



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows(r) 7, Vista, XP or 
2003 Server Macintosh(r)-based attendees Required: Mac OS(r) X

10.5 or newer

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn't get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I've 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<mailto:ddspo...@yahoo.com>



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows(r) 7, Vista, XP or 
2003 Server Macintosh(r)-based attendees Required: Mac OS(r) X

10.5 or newer

RE: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

Josh and George,

Not sure why you guys didn't get the time issue correct, the talk started at 8 
pm CDT and ended at 9:30.  Did you all get a different time notification.  I've 
included Debbie Spoons, the session organizer.  Maybe she can determine the 
issue.

Sorry for the problems,

Geary

From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:19 PM
To: George D. Nincehelser
Cc: Geary Schindel; Texascavers@Texascavers.Com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

Nor !.

Josh
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser 
mailto:george.nincehel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the webinar working?  It's 10:17 CDT and I'm not getting it.

???

George


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Geary Schindel 
mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote:

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
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Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



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[Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

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Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows(r) 7, Vista, XP or 
2003 Server Macintosh(r)-based attendees Required: Mac OS(r) X

10.5 or newer

[Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows(r) 7, Vista, XP or 
2003 Server Macintosh(r)-based attendees Required: Mac OS(r) X

10.5 or newer

[Texascavers] Webinar on Alaska Caves and Karst

[Geary Schindel]

FYI,



This should be a great program.



Geary







Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Join us for a Webinar on June 6 Space 
is limited.



Reserve your Webinar seat now at:

https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247



Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70's and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.



Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.



They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving. This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the "upper" part of 
America. Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in 
the Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska's 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple!





Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.



Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)





Feel free to forward this to others that you think would like to attend.



If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com



Title: Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier Date: Wednesday, June 6,

2012 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time



After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.



System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: Windows(r) 7, Vista, XP or 
2003 Server Macintosh(r)-based attendees Required: Mac OS(r) X

10.5 or newer

[Texascavers] 8 PM CST June 6, Join us for "Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought some of you might be interested in the second NSS Webinar.  This should 
be an outstanding program by Carlene and Kevin Allred on Alaska Caving.  Note 
the time and date is June 6 at 8 pm and you should register early.  The NSS 
will be presenting webinars on various caving subjects which will also be 
archived for later viewing.  This is a pilot program and if successful, will 
become part of the many benefits of NSS membership.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP









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Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/738011247


Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70’s and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.

Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.

They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving.  This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the “upper” part of 
America.

Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in the 
Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska’s 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple.

Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.

Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)

Please forward this to others that you think would like to attend.

If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
ddspo...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ddspo...@yahoo.com>


Title:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier

Date:

Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Macintosh®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer















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[Texascavers] 8 PM CST June 6, Join us for "Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought some of you might be interested in the second NSS Webinar.  This should 
be an outstanding program by Carlene and Kevin Allred on Alaska Caving.  Note 
the time and date is June 6 at 8 pm and you should register early.  The NSS 
will be presenting webinars on various caving subjects which will also be 
archived for later viewing.  This is a pilot program and if successful, will 
become part of the many benefits of NSS membership.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP









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Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70’s and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.

Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.

They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving.  This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the “upper” part of 
America.

Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in the 
Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska’s 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple.

Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.

Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)

Please forward this to others that you think would like to attend.

If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
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Title:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier

Date:

Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time


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about joining the Webinar.


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[Texascavers] 8 PM CST June 6, Join us for "Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

Thought some of you might be interested in the second NSS Webinar.  This should 
be an outstanding program by Carlene and Kevin Allred on Alaska Caving.  Note 
the time and date is June 6 at 8 pm and you should register early.  The NSS 
will be presenting webinars on various caving subjects which will also be 
archived for later viewing.  This is a pilot program and if successful, will 
become part of the many benefits of NSS membership.

Thanks,

Geary Schindel
NSS AVP









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Carlene and Kevin Allred are diehard Alaska cave explorers. They have been 
caving since the 70’s and have spearheaded the exploration and mapping of 
hundreds of caves in Utah, California, Washington state, Hawaii and of course 
Alaska.

Carlene has won three medals in the NSS Cartographic Salon for her cave maps.

They will be talking about a few of their explorations and scientific finding 
in their almost 40 years of caving.  This will be a great presentation with 
stunning cave pictures and great facts about the caves in the “upper” part of 
America.

Together and with their kids they have organized many expeditions in the 
Western U.S. and Alaska. Many of these expeditions have been in Alaska’s 
hostile and amazingly beautiful, Wrangle Mountain area. They are truly an 
amazing couple.

Please come and enjoy this webinar from the comfort of your own home on your 
computer.

Wednesday, June 6th at 8PM Central Time (7PM Mountain time, 6PM Pacific Time)

Please forward this to others that you think would like to attend.

If you have any questions please contact Debbie Spoons, 
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Title:

Alaska Caving, America's Final Frontier

Date:

Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Central time


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[Texascavers] Your Webinar Invitation: Join us for "Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks, we are pleased to announce a test run of the first NSS Webinar.  We are 
asking the Utah and Texas caving community to participate in the first NSS 
webinar as a trial run for future webinars.  Space is limited to 100 people.  
We would like to have sufficient number of people attend the webinar to get 
good feedback but there is not space in our webinar account yet for more than 
100 people to attend at this time so sign up early.  Thanks to Debbie Spoons 
from Utah for organizing this along with Dr. Marcus Gary for agreeing to make 
the presentation. Also, R.D. Milholin and Aaron Bird for serving on the webinar 
committee.  We will also be looking for sponsors for the webinars as we expect 
our costs to range around $1,000 if we stick with the 100 person limit and 
$3,000 for the 500 person limit per year. In addition, we will be able to 
record each webinar for future download. If you have ideas about future 
presenters or subjects, please us know and we’ll try to arrange it.  Webinars 
can be offered as frequently as the webinar committee has time and willing 
presenters.

Thanks, and please make sure that you give us some feedback on the webinar.

Geary Schindel,
NSS AVP









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Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world


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Please join us for the first NSS Webinar.
Marcus Gary, Ph.D., P.G.  will be talking about his work with “DEPTHX” an 
underwater caving robot.  This robot is designed to “think for itself” while it 
explores and maps, in 3D, deep underwater caves that are inaccessible to people.
“DEPTHX” was able to successfully map the lower portion and bottom of the 
world's deepest water-filled sinkhole, “Cenote Zacatón”, in Mexico. Because of 
its great depth (over 1,000 feet [300 m]), human divers had failed to reach, or 
even detect with sonar instruments, the bottom of this sinkhole.

Come and enjoy this presentation about a very unique “Robot caving trip”.


Title:

Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world

Date:

Monday, May 7, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CDT


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
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Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Macintosh®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer






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[Texascavers] Your Webinar Invitation: Join us for "Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks, we are pleased to announce a test run of the first NSS Webinar.  We are 
asking the Utah and Texas caving community to participate in the first NSS 
webinar as a trial run for future webinars.  Space is limited to 100 people.  
We would like to have sufficient number of people attend the webinar to get 
good feedback but there is not space in our webinar account yet for more than 
100 people to attend at this time so sign up early.  Thanks to Debbie Spoons 
from Utah for organizing this along with Dr. Marcus Gary for agreeing to make 
the presentation. Also, R.D. Milholin and Aaron Bird for serving on the webinar 
committee.  We will also be looking for sponsors for the webinars as we expect 
our costs to range around $1,000 if we stick with the 100 person limit and 
$3,000 for the 500 person limit per year. In addition, we will be able to 
record each webinar for future download. If you have ideas about future 
presenters or subjects, please us know and we’ll try to arrange it.  Webinars 
can be offered as frequently as the webinar committee has time and willing 
presenters.

Thanks, and please make sure that you give us some feedback on the webinar.

Geary Schindel,
NSS AVP









[http://www4.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/555781727/369495491506088562/embed.jpg]


Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world


Join us for a Webinar on May 7


[http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_registerNow.gif]<https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/555781727>


Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/555781727


Please join us for the first NSS Webinar.
Marcus Gary, Ph.D., P.G.  will be talking about his work with “DEPTHX” an 
underwater caving robot.  This robot is designed to “think for itself” while it 
explores and maps, in 3D, deep underwater caves that are inaccessible to people.
“DEPTHX” was able to successfully map the lower portion and bottom of the 
world's deepest water-filled sinkhole, “Cenote Zacatón”, in Mexico. Because of 
its great depth (over 1,000 feet [300 m]), human divers had failed to reach, or 
even detect with sonar instruments, the bottom of this sinkhole.

Come and enjoy this presentation about a very unique “Robot caving trip”.


Title:

Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world

Date:

Monday, May 7, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CDT


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Macintosh®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer






[http://www4.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/555781727/359021838487642527/embed.jpg]

[Texascavers] Your Webinar Invitation: Join us for "Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world"

[Geary Schindel]

Folks, we are pleased to announce a test run of the first NSS Webinar.  We are 
asking the Utah and Texas caving community to participate in the first NSS 
webinar as a trial run for future webinars.  Space is limited to 100 people.  
We would like to have sufficient number of people attend the webinar to get 
good feedback but there is not space in our webinar account yet for more than 
100 people to attend at this time so sign up early.  Thanks to Debbie Spoons 
from Utah for organizing this along with Dr. Marcus Gary for agreeing to make 
the presentation. Also, R.D. Milholin and Aaron Bird for serving on the webinar 
committee.  We will also be looking for sponsors for the webinars as we expect 
our costs to range around $1,000 if we stick with the 100 person limit and 
$3,000 for the 500 person limit per year. In addition, we will be able to 
record each webinar for future download. If you have ideas about future 
presenters or subjects, please us know and we’ll try to arrange it.  Webinars 
can be offered as frequently as the webinar committee has time and willing 
presenters.

Thanks, and please make sure that you give us some feedback on the webinar.

Geary Schindel,
NSS AVP









[http://www4.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/555781727/369495491506088562/embed.jpg]


Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world


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Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/555781727


Please join us for the first NSS Webinar.
Marcus Gary, Ph.D., P.G.  will be talking about his work with “DEPTHX” an 
underwater caving robot.  This robot is designed to “think for itself” while it 
explores and maps, in 3D, deep underwater caves that are inaccessible to people.
“DEPTHX” was able to successfully map the lower portion and bottom of the 
world's deepest water-filled sinkhole, “Cenote Zacatón”, in Mexico. Because of 
its great depth (over 1,000 feet [300 m]), human divers had failed to reach, or 
even detect with sonar instruments, the bottom of this sinkhole.

Come and enjoy this presentation about a very unique “Robot caving trip”.


Title:

Caving robot conquers the deepest sinkhole in the world

Date:

Monday, May 7, 2012

Time:

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CDT


After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information 
about joining the Webinar.


System Requirements
PC-based attendees
Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server


Macintosh®-based attendees
Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer






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[Texascavers] FW: Horn Tooting

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,



Thought you might like to see this article on our very own Dwight Deal, (NSS 
3592).  Dwight will be one of the three speakers for the NSS Convention’s new 
Luminary Lectures. He will be speaking from 1 to 2 pm on Thursday of the 
convention on his many many years of caving.



http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/.services/blog/6a0133f2e9fdbf970b0133f2ea01af970b/search?filter.q=dwight+deal


Geary

[Texascavers] FW: Horn Tooting

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,



Thought you might like to see this article on our very own Dwight Deal, (NSS 
3592).  Dwight will be one of the three speakers for the NSS Convention’s new 
Luminary Lectures. He will be speaking from 1 to 2 pm on Thursday of the 
convention on his many many years of caving.



http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/.services/blog/6a0133f2e9fdbf970b0133f2ea01af970b/search?filter.q=dwight+deal


Geary

[Texascavers] FW: Horn Tooting

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,



Thought you might like to see this article on our very own Dwight Deal, (NSS 
3592).  Dwight will be one of the three speakers for the NSS Convention’s new 
Luminary Lectures. He will be speaking from 1 to 2 pm on Thursday of the 
convention on his many many years of caving.



http://alpinedailyplanet.typepad.com/.services/blog/6a0133f2e9fdbf970b0133f2ea01af970b/search?filter.q=dwight+deal


Geary

[Texascavers] Week Long NCRC Class 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Forward from TAG-NET this morning.



Geary





NCRC Weeklong 2012

By: Steve Hudson  (LaFayette, Georgia)

  shud...@pmirope.com







Want to learn about cave rescue? Want to go to NCRC again but don't want to 
take the same class over? Now you have options.



This year at the Mentone NCRC seminar you have the option of taking a new NCRC 
class. Besides the standard levels 1, 2, and 3 the seminar offers a class in 
Caving and Wilderness First Aid. For years we've encouraged folks to take a 
wilderness first aid class. Now we're offering it. This includes a two day 
wilderness first aid class (ASHI certified), psychological first aid (Red Cross 
certified), and a bunch more exploration of first aid/medic issues related to 
cave rescue like suspension trauma, advanced packaging, and creative splinting. 
We will do medical field exercises and review level 2 rigging in the class and 
the field. At the end of the week everyone will participate in the mock rescue. 
This is great preparation for anyone going on an expedition. The prerequisite 
is having taken level 2 since 2000. This will also renew your level two status 
so you can take level 3 in the future. And don't forget the class we added last 
year called Team Operations and Field Exercise (TOFE) if medical is not your 
thing. So come hang out with your NCRC friends and learn something new. It will 
be fun.



For more information, go to the NCRC website and look for the 2012 seminar 
information and online registration link. Prices go up April 22nd.



http://www.caves.org/commission/ncrc/national/2012Seminar/seminar2012.htm





Steve Hudson National Training Coordinator National Cave Rescue Commission



train...@ncrc.info

[Texascavers] Week Long NCRC Class 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Forward from TAG-NET this morning.



Geary





NCRC Weeklong 2012

By: Steve Hudson  (LaFayette, Georgia)

  shud...@pmirope.com







Want to learn about cave rescue? Want to go to NCRC again but don't want to 
take the same class over? Now you have options.



This year at the Mentone NCRC seminar you have the option of taking a new NCRC 
class. Besides the standard levels 1, 2, and 3 the seminar offers a class in 
Caving and Wilderness First Aid. For years we've encouraged folks to take a 
wilderness first aid class. Now we're offering it. This includes a two day 
wilderness first aid class (ASHI certified), psychological first aid (Red Cross 
certified), and a bunch more exploration of first aid/medic issues related to 
cave rescue like suspension trauma, advanced packaging, and creative splinting. 
We will do medical field exercises and review level 2 rigging in the class and 
the field. At the end of the week everyone will participate in the mock rescue. 
This is great preparation for anyone going on an expedition. The prerequisite 
is having taken level 2 since 2000. This will also renew your level two status 
so you can take level 3 in the future. And don't forget the class we added last 
year called Team Operations and Field Exercise (TOFE) if medical is not your 
thing. So come hang out with your NCRC friends and learn something new. It will 
be fun.



For more information, go to the NCRC website and look for the 2012 seminar 
information and online registration link. Prices go up April 22nd.



http://www.caves.org/commission/ncrc/national/2012Seminar/seminar2012.htm





Steve Hudson National Training Coordinator National Cave Rescue Commission



train...@ncrc.info

[Texascavers] Week Long NCRC Class 2012

[Geary Schindel]

Forward from TAG-NET this morning.



Geary





NCRC Weeklong 2012

By: Steve Hudson  (LaFayette, Georgia)

  shud...@pmirope.com







Want to learn about cave rescue? Want to go to NCRC again but don't want to 
take the same class over? Now you have options.



This year at the Mentone NCRC seminar you have the option of taking a new NCRC 
class. Besides the standard levels 1, 2, and 3 the seminar offers a class in 
Caving and Wilderness First Aid. For years we've encouraged folks to take a 
wilderness first aid class. Now we're offering it. This includes a two day 
wilderness first aid class (ASHI certified), psychological first aid (Red Cross 
certified), and a bunch more exploration of first aid/medic issues related to 
cave rescue like suspension trauma, advanced packaging, and creative splinting. 
We will do medical field exercises and review level 2 rigging in the class and 
the field. At the end of the week everyone will participate in the mock rescue. 
This is great preparation for anyone going on an expedition. The prerequisite 
is having taken level 2 since 2000. This will also renew your level two status 
so you can take level 3 in the future. And don't forget the class we added last 
year called Team Operations and Field Exercise (TOFE) if medical is not your 
thing. So come hang out with your NCRC friends and learn something new. It will 
be fun.



For more information, go to the NCRC website and look for the 2012 seminar 
information and online registration link. Prices go up April 22nd.



http://www.caves.org/commission/ncrc/national/2012Seminar/seminar2012.htm





Steve Hudson National Training Coordinator National Cave Rescue Commission



train...@ncrc.info

[Texascavers] three positions open at Edwards Aquifer Authority

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

The Edwards Aquifer Authority, located in San Antonio, Texas has three 
positions open.

Environmental Science Technician

Field Representative

Environmental Coordinator

  Please see the position descriptions and closing dates at the following link. 
Note that some of the closing dates are coming up soon.

Geary Schindel


http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment

[Texascavers] three positions open at Edwards Aquifer Authority

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

The Edwards Aquifer Authority, located in San Antonio, Texas has three 
positions open.

Environmental Science Technician

Field Representative

Environmental Coordinator

  Please see the position descriptions and closing dates at the following link. 
Note that some of the closing dates are coming up soon.

Geary Schindel


http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment

[Texascavers] three positions open at Edwards Aquifer Authority

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

The Edwards Aquifer Authority, located in San Antonio, Texas has three 
positions open.

Environmental Science Technician

Field Representative

Environmental Coordinator

  Please see the position descriptions and closing dates at the following link. 
Note that some of the closing dates are coming up soon.

Geary Schindel


http://www.edwardsaquifer.org/display_authority_m.php?pg=employment