Re: [Texascavers] Frank Binney NSS Luminary Talk

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Frank,
I enjoyed that immensely! Thanks for putting all that together for us. Jacqui


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> On Jul 29, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Mark Minton  wrote:
> 
> Or, with apologies to Gilbert Shelton, “Rope will get you through times of no 
> Money better than Money will get you through times of no Rope!”
>  
> Mark Minton
>  
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rob Ralph
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Frank Binney NSS Luminary Talk
>  
> Thanks for the invite. I listened to your talk earlier and really liked your 
> sponsors. You really caught the highlights of the Kirkwood culture.
> Donde hay mecate, hay esperanza. 
> Where’s there’s rope, there’s hope.
> 
> On 29 Jul 2021, at 2:56 PM, Miles Abernathy  wrote:
> 
>> Frank, that is a really good video!
>> Miles Abernathy
>>  
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:17 PM fr...@frankbinney.com 
>>  wrote:
>>> Hey Y’all—
>>> The NSS has given me the opportunity to highlight many of the legends in 
>>> Texas caving in my Luminary Talk for this year’s virtual convention. If 
>>> you’d like, grab a cold Shiner beer and check out  "Growing Up Underground: 
>>> Confessions of a Pit Hippie" at:
>>> https://youtu.be/Ms-IS2IkyjY
>>> Salud,
>>> Frank Binney, NSS 10816, former UT Grotto Chair
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Re: [Texascavers] NSS website

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Thanks, Carol.
I just went to the website & was able to log in. I can get onto all the pages, 
but when I go to the “membership info” line on the “my profile” sidebar it 
tries to load my info but keeps reloading and reloading and reloading.

Has anyone tried to get into their membership information via this route? I 
think I’ll just make a phone call & renew the old fashioned way. Jacq.

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> On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Carol Belski  wrote:
> 
> I just checked and seemed to be able to get into all the pages.
> 
> —Carol
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Jacqueline Thomas  wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone having trouble loading the NSS website? I tried to renew my 
>> membership and the page keeps reloading, on some sort of a loop. When I 
>> tried to see Crash’s June 18th message on the member services page weekly 
>> report it does the same thing. This only happens with the NSS site.
>> 
>> I ask because my computer died and I’ve just started using a new one so 
>> there’s always a chance my new computer might have something against caving. 
>>  Jacqui
>> 
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[Texascavers] NSS website

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Is anyone having trouble loading the NSS website? I tried to renew my 
membership and the page keeps reloading, on some sort of a loop. When I tried 
to see Crash’s June 18th message on the member services page weekly report it 
does the same thing. This only happens with the NSS site.

I ask because my computer died and I’ve just started using a new one so there’s 
always a chance my new computer might have something against caving.  Jacqui

 
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Re: [Texascavers] Walter Feaster RIP

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Great photo, thanks! Word around PBSS was that NSS wouldn’t use this (or 
similar) for a cover because of the proximity of Walter’s shoes to the pool’s 
rim. 

Walter was an stalwart member of PBSS. I met him the year PBSS hosted Spring 
Convention at the Caverns of Sonora (2001?) and I joined PBSS shortly 
thereafter. Walter was Treasurer and/or Secretary for the whole time I was in 
Texas and was the editor of the Hole News for many years. He was the keeper of 
the Caverns Restoration 5 gallon buckets and his breakfast tacos were an event 
unto themselves. He worked on the Fort Stanton survey. He was fun to cave and 
camp with and had just enough curmudgeon in him to keep us all on our toes. 

Rest in Peace, dear man.



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> On Feb 5, 2021, at 7:07 PM, Karstwalker  wrote:
> 
> One of my photos of Walter in Abyss Sinkhole, Aug, 2000
> 
> 
> On 2021-02-05 16:55, Marvin Miller wrote:
>> Bill Bentley posted on FB that Walter Feaster has died. I met him once at 
>> Amazing Maze and I might have seen him at conventions or TCR.
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Re: [Texascavers] Walter Feaster RIP

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Thanks, Marvin, for posting Walter’s passing to the listserve—occasionally we 
forget that Facebook posts do not reach all interested parties. Jacqui


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> On Feb 5, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Marvin Miller  wrote:
> 
> Bill Bentley posted on FB that Walter Feaster has died. I met him once at 
> Amazing Maze and I might have seen him at conventions or TCR.
> 
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[Texascavers] Field Museum Bats & coronaviruses

[Jacqueline Thomas]

This was in my Field newsletter. Before sending it out I checked if there was a 
copyright issue and the copyright statement is as follows:

"You may use the Museum’s Content for personal, non-commercial purposes only or 
for “fair use” as described by Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act 
(e.g., classroom teaching), provided that you cite the source and retain all 
copyright and other proprietary notices contained on or in the Content. Content 
under copyright and owned by third parties may not be used for any purpose, 
except as allowed by fair use, without permission of the rights holder.” Just 
FYI in case someone wants to copy & use elsewhere. The source study is cited at 
the end of the article. 

Coronaviruses and bats have been evolving together for millions of years
Different groups of bats have their own unique strains of coronavirus

Bats do a lot of good for the world—they pollinate plants, they eat 
disease-carrying insects, and they help disperse seeds that help with the 
regeneration of tropical forest trees. Bats and a range of other mammal groups 
are also natural carriers of coronaviruses. To better understand this very 
diverse family of viruses, which includes the specific coronavirus behind 
COVID-19, scientists compared the different kinds of coronaviruses living in 36 
bat species from the western Indian Ocean and nearby areas of Africa. They 
found that different groups of bats at the genus and in some cases family level 
had their own unique strains of coronavirus, revealing that bats and 
coronaviruses have been evolving together for millions of years.

“We found that there’s a deep evolutionary history between bats and 
coronaviruses,” says Steve Goodman, MacArthur Field Biologist at Chicago’s 
Field Museum and an author of a paper just released in Scientific Reports 
detailing the discovery. “Developing a better understanding of how 
coronaviruses evolved can help us build public health programs in the future.” 
The study was led by Université de La Réunion scientists Léa Joffrin and 
Camille Lebarbenchon, who conducted the genetic analyses in the laboratory of 
“Processus infectieux en milieu insulaire tropical (PIMIT)” on Réunion Island, 
focusing on emerging infectious diseases on islands in the western Indian Ocean.

A lot of people use “coronavirus” as a synonym for “COVID-19,” the kind of 
coronavirus causing the current pandemic. However, there are a vast number of 
types of different coronaviruses, potentially as many as bat species, and most 
of them are unknown to be transferred to humans and pose no known threat. The 
coronaviruses carried by the bats studied in this paper are different from the 
one behind COVID-19, but by learning about coronaviruses in bats in general, we 
can better understand the virus affecting us today.

All animals have viruses that live inside them, and bats, as well as a range of 
other mammal groups, happen to be natural carriers of coronaviruses. These 
coronaviruses don’t appear to be harmful to the bats, but there’s potential for 
them to be dangerous to other animals if the viruses have opportunities to jump 
between species. This study examines the genetic relationships between 
different strains of coronaviruses and the animals they live in, which sets the 
stage for a better understanding of the transfer of viruses from animals to 
humans.

Goodman, who has been based on Madagascar for several decades, and his 
colleagues took swab and some cases blood samples from more than a thousand 
bats representing 36 species found on islands in the western Indian Ocean and 
coastal areas of the African nation of Mozambique. Eight percent of the bats 
they sampled were carrying a coronavirus.

“This is a very rough estimate of the proportion of infected bats. There is 
increasing evidence for seasonal variation in the circulation of these viruses 
in bats, suggesting that this number may significantly vary according to the 
time of the year,” says Camille Lebarbenchon, Disease Ecologist at the 
Université de La Réunion.

The researchers ran genetic analyses of the coronaviruses present in these 
bats. By comparing the coronaviruses isolated and sequenced in the context of 
this study with ones from other animals including dolphins, alpacas, and 
humans, they were able to build a giant coronavirus family tree. This family 
tree shows how the different kinds of coronavirus are related to each other.

“We found that for the most part, each of the different genera of families of 
bats for which coronavirus sequences were available had their own strains,” 
says Goodman. “Moreover, based on the evolutionary history of the different bat 
groups, it is clear that there is a deep coexistence between bats (at the level 
of genus and family) and their associated coronaviruses.” For example, fruit 
bats of the family Pteropodidae from different continents and islands formed a 
cluster in their tree and were genetically different than the 

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Thank you for making my evening! 

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> On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Carol W Russell  wrote:
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> If there's a Map Saloon, these are perfect.But also for the Salon
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:03 PM Nancy Weaver  wrote:
> first place! Nancy
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:
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Re: [Texascavers] Has a date and location for the next TCR been selected yet.

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I worked at Camp Sol Mayer for 5 years at BSA summer camp. It’s a beautiful 
place, with San Saba River access. I think everyone will enjoy it immensely. 
Just spray yourselves with DEET and have a great time! Jacqui


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> On Nov 20, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:
> 
> this place has it all.  flooding.  wind shear.  mud so deep no vehicles can 
> move and tornado!!  its the perfect site for TCR.
> https://www.westtexasscoutinghistory.net/camp_solmayer.html
> Nancy
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Diana Tomchick 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> BSA Camp Sol Mayer in Menard County,
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Re: [Texascavers] Robber Baron Cave

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Geary,
If/when you get the Shelta Cave thing going, keep me in mind! Especially if 
there’s camping. Jacqui


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> On Sep 30, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Geary Schindel  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I have a caving post.
> 
> I want to say how impressed I was with Lindsey Adamonski, Joe Mitchell, and 
> Joe Ranzau and the many many volunteers that worked on the Robber Baron Open 
> House. It was an outstanding event and incredibly well organized. Also for 
> Elaine and Rob Bissett for organizing the After Open House party and 
> degassing. I know that many cavers drove from Austin and Houston to attend 
> the event as well as all the cavers from the San Antonio area. It is always 
> great to see cavers - young and old to volunteer to support caves and caving 
> events. THANK YOU. 
> 
> I understand that more than 700 folks visited the cave, it was a major fund 
> raiser which will go back into the caving community, and that there was some 
> great outreach by many of the organizations present including the TSA, Bexar 
> Grotto, TCMA, TSP, Master Naturalists, EAA, etc. Here is a link to an article 
> in the San Antonio Express News you all may want to see. 
> https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Hundreds-flock-to-Robber-Baron-to-get-rare-14475886.php
>  Make sure that you click through the photos and see the one of Mio Kitano 
> who is covered in the Express News on a regular basis (I think she needs an 
> agent). 
> 
> I've been working with some of the folks in the Huntsville area to hold a 
> similar event in Shelta Cave in Huntsville, Alabama. The Robber Baron Open 
> House is a great model.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Geary M. Schindel
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Minor correction to David’s correction of Geary’s post: Jacqui is correct when 
it comes to caving and friends. I am now in Alabama, though. Roll Tide! 

Regards,
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> On Jun 24, 2019, at 6:20 PM, AC  wrote:
> 
> Correction to David’s post— Oztotl. 
> 
> Smart phone, stupid autocorrect
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 6:10 PM, David  wrote:
>> 
>> I was referring to a large event tent with the Oxtotl logo on it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] CBSP project

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Thanks, Diana! 

Everybody else, I’ve got it! Jacq.


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> On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Diana Tomchick 
>  wrote:
> 
> Contact
> 
> cbsp@gmail.com
> 
> Diana
> 
> **
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
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> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
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> (214) 645-6383 (phone)
> (214) 645-6353 (fax)
> 
> On Apr 30, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Jacqueline Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> Who is keeping the Colorado Bend State Park project paperwork? I found a page 
> in my survey book from the project in January of 2008—Red Light Cave—I would 
> like to get it to its proper home. Jacqui
> 
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[Texascavers] CBSP project

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Hi, all,
Who is keeping the Colorado Bend State Park project paperwork? I found a page 
in my survey book from the project in January of 2008—Red Light Cave—I would 
like to get it to its proper home. Jacqui


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Re: [Texascavers] 5 pm Thursday update: William Russell

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I am sad. Bill was very fortunate to have you, Katie. Jacqui

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> On Mar 21, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Fofo  wrote:
> 
> This is very sad news. My thoughts are with you and with Bill.
> 
> - Fofo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/03/19 15:07, Katherine Arens wrote:
>>  stopped breathing and went caving about twenty minutes ago. He's left the 
>> building.
>> 
>> Katherine Arens   Phones: Office(512) 232-6363
>> ar...@austin.utexas.edu   Dept. Phone:   
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>> University of Texas at AustinOffice:  Burdine 320
>> Austin, TX  78712-1802
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Re: [Texascavers] I saw so many good reviews about this

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I don’t know what this is and I don’t usually click on links without a bit of a 
description?


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> On Mar 20, 2019, at 7:34 PM, F D Caudle  wrote:
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> Only few left http://category.farrisimage.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Russell Update

[Jacqueline Thomas]

What Fofo said.


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> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Fofo  wrote:
> 
> I'm so really sorry to hear this. 
> 
> Sending good energy and positive thoughts, and a hug. 
> 
> - Fofo 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 14:42, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
>> Folks, he may not survive the night.  He’s gonna miss the cave meeting , . . 
>> 
>> Katherine Arens
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>> University of Texas at Austin
>> Office:  Burdine 320
>> Austin, TX  78712-1802
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Re: [Texascavers] Sat AM Bill Russell Update

[Jacqueline Thomas]

HOORAY!!!

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> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> Out of ICU, now in Room 668.
> 
> katie
> 
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>Phones: Office(512) 232-6363
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> FAX (512) 471-4025
> 2505 University Ave, C3300 
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> University of Texas at Austin
> Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-1802
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Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.

[Jacqueline Thomas]

May I suggest when we have a personal issue with an individual on this list 
that we contact that person directly? 

This leaves the rest of us to pursue what started to be an interesting 
discussion of constructive ways to help folks who are furloughed due to the 
shutdown.

Jacqui


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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I misspell shit because it drives yall freaking batty. Check you own 
> spelling. Your far from purfect. 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 7:50 AM Bill Steele  Michael Gibbons, here, this may help. 
> 
> hypocrite - 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=hypocrite+meaning=UTF-8=UTF-8=en-us=safari
> 
> Hippocrates - 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=hippocrates=UTF-8=UTF-8=en-us=safari
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So the politically charged federal shutdown is caving related and the facts, 
>> undistorted as they are, about the politically charged shutdown is 
>> propaganda. 
>> I'm not even gonna justisfy that complete lack of anything logic, with a 
>> response. I knew there was a reason I quit joining any discussion in this 
>> forum. If it ain't in agreement with your narrow minded ways you get singled 
>> out and your words get twisted.
>> It's not like I don't monitor this media. As soon as yall posted me last 
>> time the ban on all things craving was lifted. 
>> I hate hippocrates more than I hate stupid.
>> See ya in a year when I'm sure I'll talk myself into thinking you 
>> reasonable, unbiased, non judge mental, accepting folks. Im sure you'll 
>> disappoint.  This time took less than 24 hrs.
>> Toddlers turds
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 6:42 AM John Brooks > wrote:
>> How did political propaganda creep onto the Texas Cavers email list ?
>> 
>> Reinstate the ban on political discussions - keep this list ABOUT CAVES & 
>> CAVING.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:00 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Write Chuck and Nancy and tell them to pretend their not hippocrates and 
>>> like they did when Obama was in office.
>>> In Chuckles words when defending his unwavering position on a border 
>>> barrier and the 670mi he sponsored. Walls don't work, fences do.
>>> As he was coming out of DNC headquarters, surrounded by 2 1/2 miles of ten 
>>> foot concrete wall with guard tended gates.
>>> It doesn't matter who caused the debacle and the jury is still out in that 
>>> but the continuance falls squarely on the shoulders of an irresponsible and 
>>> hypocritical political leadership. 
>>> I feel for your plight but you should consider yourself lucky.  Lots of 
>>> folks deal with similar problems from layoffs that won't begin after 
>>> playing politics with our lives is not longer the hate Trump "crisis" 
>>> dujour.
>>> People that have to strike to better their stature don't get letters to 
>>> send to their debtors even once and in most families in financial 
>>> difficulty the first thing to go and the last thing to resume is daycare. 
>>> Your quite fortunate to be so secure 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 4:11 AM Missy Singleton >> I agree with what Kathy said.  As a Fed we are regularly warned/taught 
>>> about what we should and should not say regarding political issues to 
>>> others and on social media.  The furlough sucks financially and 
>>> environmentally.  Im actually stressed about not working because I know all 
>>> the time sensitive issues I was working on will bottle neck.  Time 
>>> sensitive analysis document regarding the potential to protect species in 
>>> rapid decline.  I’m a non-essential so I’m not being asked to work without 
>>> pay, thankfully.  Most of my coworkers have filed for unemployment and some 
>>> are working for temp agencies.  I’m using this time to tackle big projects 
>>> at home since we bought our house and moved when I was 9 months pregnant.  
>>> Money is tight!  Daycare doesn’t care if I’m not getting paid and if we 
>>> withdrew our kids to save money they’d loose there positions plus we’d have 
>>> to pay registration again when re enrolling them.  The paperwork we got at 
>>> the beginning of the furlough to share with creditors has expired. Issuing 
>>> a new one sounds easy, but not when over 90% of us have elected to not have 
>>> paper communication and all of our accounts are set for email notification 
>>> and all of our government equipment is forbidden to be used and government 
>>> website for our branch of DOI haven’t all been able to be maintained.  All 
>>> of my information coming from leadership has come in the form of novel 
>>> length text messages and extremely short notice conference calls.  We are 
>>> all just trying to ride the big wave and cope the best we can.  I’m really 
>>> proud of my efforts to learn how to restore our back deck and our new 
>>> landscaping will look great when it’s completed.  Hopefully my garden will 
>>> be 

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I finally responded to the yellow postcard today, and updated Kel’s information 
also. The young woman I spoke with was pleasant and not even remotely pushy. 
She gave me the prices of both the hard copy and the digital version, we 
chatted a bit, and that was that. No sale pitch at all. I was polite to her and 
she was polite right back. I think sometimes with these folks you get what you 
project.

I’m not purchasing anything but for someone who has been caving for a long time 
and has lost track of more than a few individuals a directory of everyone who 
had ever been an NSS member would be of value. My high school put together such 
a directory a few years back and it has been useful.

Regarding privacy, if a company that produces a directory of this type did not 
take privacy seriously it would not around for more than one directory. This 
company has produced more than one such directory and is still in business so 
I’m not particularly concerned. Jacq. 


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> On Jul 20, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Apparently you didn't read my email.  An option to reply is to call them.  
> Which I did.  It was a pleasant experience.  They verified my info and asked 
> what info I  authorized to be included in the publication. 
> They asked my if I wished to purchase a directory and I told them not at this 
> time.  And that was it. 
> I'm proud to be a member of the NSS
> and am happy to include my contact info.  Perhaps one day I might find 
> someone I once knew through this effort. Perhaps someone will need a place to 
> stay or help with a broken auto while cruising through San Antonio and I'm 
> the only one listed.  I'd be able to help them. 
> I doubt the motives of the NSS are nefarious and the ownership of the company 
> collecting the information is contractually obliged not to deceminate our 
> information to any other entities save our own. 
> The solution to not having your information compromised is to choose not to 
> participate. 
> All this pissing  and moaning is petty and becoming tiresome. 
> Just opt out. That simple. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 4:04 PM Stephen Fleming  wrote:
> It is a marketing thing authorized by the NSS.
> 
> The NSS says it is costing the organization no money and the contractor funds 
> the effort from sales of the rather pricey merchandise.
> 
> However, the NSS will get a cut of proceeds: "This is NOT a significant fund 
> raiser for NSS, thought [sic] we do get a small commission on sales." 
> 
> The percentage of return is not stated, and the postcard is disingenuous in 
> not revealing this financial arrangement. You have to search the NSS website 
> to find that tidbit.
> 
> Regardless, I won't be calling or participating; the NSS knows how to contact 
> me and they already have everything they need to know.
> 
> Allen's listing of the questions asked goes way beyond basic caver info and 
> seeks information the NSS has no business collecting.
> 
> I put this thing in the same category as telemarketers. Unwelcome and not 
> tolerated.
> 
> I did not opt-in for the NSS to release my contact information, even to a 
> contractor, for such a use. The fact that I can decide not to participate 
> pales beside the NSS misusing my personal data.
> 
> Stephen
> 13727 RL FE
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto "Meeting" July 4th

[Jacqueline Thomas]

That is one exquisite sum-i !

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> On Jul 1, 2018, at 12:07 PM, Underground Texas Grotto  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings Cavers,
> If you're able, willing, and in Austin for Independence Day, get in something 
> that you can paddle and join us for the bat flight and fireworks show.
> 
> When everything's over it's very pleasant to coast back dowstream with the 
> current, so unless you have your own special place to put in, we can 
> recommend parking under or as close as possible to the north side of the I 35 
> bridge.  Let's say around 7:30.  The bats decide to grace us between 
> 8:15-8:45, and flashy boom sky sparkles are about 9:30.  If you have a kind 
> of anchor, the fireworks display is much more relaxing without fighting the 
> current to stay in place.
> 
> We plan to have a flag hoisted so cavers coming from every which way at any 
> odd time can locate the group.  I don't yet know what it will look like.
> 
> With kindest regards,
> Patty Calabrese
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Re: [Texascavers] Artwork related

[Jacqueline Thomas]

How cool is that?! That took some talent and planning. Jacq.


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> On Jun 17, 2018, at 2:17 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> 
> From David Locklear
> Cavepearl surpised me with a hand-made card for Father's Day.
> 
> It features a pop-out bat with a pull-tab revealing a hidden gift-card.
> 
> The back-side sealing the envelope was another bat.
> 
> I don't see how I could have received a nicer gift.
> 
> D.L.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a1va3bqa0iu7il7/20180617_134122.jpg?dl=0
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Re: [Texascavers] a nostalgic post

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Thanks, Logan, for breaking that particular vow. Jacqui

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 2:33 AM, Logan McNatt  wrote:
> 
> David,
> I am breaking my own vow of never replying to your emails to texascavers, 
> but I recognized the "tourist lady" in the photo as Queen Elizabeth, and the 
> man beside her as the Duke of Edinburgh. A quick search of "Queen Elizabeth 
> in cave" yielded several links about her visit to the Waitomo caves on Jan 1, 
> 1954. There is even a one minute video
> https://www.britishpathe.com/video/queens-tour-continues-1
> The photo you posted is shown in Images. So you were correct.
> 
> You suggested " Maybe you could track down the lady, and interview her about 
> it ?"
> My suggestion: Maybe she has a Facebook page.
> 
> When she visited Belize in 1985, I was working as a Peace Corps Volunteer for 
> the Department of Archaeology, and had the honor to place the famous "Jade 
> Head" from the site of Altun Ha on a pedestal in the foyer of the National 
> Assembly building. From that vantage point I watched her surprise everyone by 
> walking through the crowd--not many places she would feel safe enough to do 
> that. She walked up the steps and paused for a minute to view the 
> archaeological display. She was about 10 feet away from me and we made direct 
> eye contact.
> 
> One of many vivid memories I have of my time in Belize, unfortunately no 
> photos of this one. Just found this video which I had not seen before. 
> Starting about 14:52 you can see the crowd and the front of the building.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnb5w-r_nUU
> 
> A nostalgic post, for true.
> Logan McNatt
> 
> 
> On 3/22/2018 12:10 AM, David wrote:
>> From David Locklear
>> ( still fully retired )
>> 
>> This post is about an old photo of some tourist in a cave ( allegedly in 
>> Aranui Cave on December 31, 1953 ).
>> 
>> I feel very certain, that I saw this photo in an old magazine from 1954 in a 
>> used book store about 30 years ago, featuring
>> just the lady standing in front of the formation. I have always 
>> regretted not buying it, but it did not seem that
>> relevant at the time.
>> 
>> Tonight something reminded me of it, and I surfed the web diligently, and I 
>> could not find the magazine,
>> but I believe I may have found the photo related to it.   Please click on 
>> the link
>> below:
>> 
>> ( Maybe it was something like LOOK Magazine or COUNTRY LIFE Magazine.  My 
>> memory is distorted. )
>> 
>> I believe the woman is pretending to admire the glow worms.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/6/u/e/1/7/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.16udbi.png/1441936820758.jpg
>> 
>> I believe GETTY IMAGES owns a better copy. Some creative person ( not me 
>> ) could find a way to obtain that, and write
>> a fancy article just for the sake of it.  Maybe you could track down the 
>> lady, and interview her about it ?
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] TSA Officer Elections

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Thanks for the reminder, Linda. 

Anybody: How do I vote? I checked the website and I am up-to-date but I don’t 
see anything on the website for voting. Jacq..


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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Linda Palit via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> TSA officer elections continue through October 28th.  If you have not done 
> so, please vote.
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Re: [Texascavers] New TCMA Website!!!

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

I like it! Very nicely done. Jacq.


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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bennett Lee via Texascavers 
> To: 'texascavers@texascavers.com' ; bexargrotto 
> 
> Cc: Bennett Lee 
> Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 6:26 pm
> Subject: [Texascavers] New TCMA Website!!!
> 
> I am pleased to announce a brand new TCMA website has launched!  Yes, the 
> 1990s website is gone, and TCMA now has a modern look and a plethora of new 
> online features, including:
>  
>   • Mobile-friendly!  Looks great from your desktop down to your mobile 
> device, complete with reduced bandwidth for mobile devices.
>   • Social media buttons!  A single click of can share any page or post 
> on your favorite social media platform.
>   • Facebook feeds!  You don’t need Facebook to see what’s happening with 
> the TCMA—recent posts show directly on the TCMA home page.
>   • Auto-renewing membership!  Online memberships can now be optionally 
> renewed each year!  Finally!
>   • Sustaining donations!  We can now accept monthly Sustaining Donations 
> online.  Sustaining Donations are a huge help to the TCMA both for budgeting 
> and for establishing monthly revenue, which is fundamental to cave 
> acquisitions.  You can donate as little $5/month.  Plus, TCMA membership is 
> included with your Sustaining Donation!  Start your Sustaining Donation today.
>  
> See all these features and more at:
> https://www.tcmacaves.org
>  
> Don’t forget to support the TCMA with our Amazon link at the top right of 
> each page.  Note that this link is different than Amazon Smile, and the link 
> contributes 10x more than Smile.  For details, see the bottom of the TCMA 
> home page.
>  
> Bennett Lee
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Re: [Texascavers] Hurricane Harvey Relief

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Hi, Gregg,
Thanks for getting this set up for us! Jacqui


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> On Aug 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cavers and friends - 
> 
> Our Texas Gulf Coast Caver family is being greatly impacted by Hurricane 
> Harvey.  Despite cavers being a resilient and well prepared bunch, Harvey is 
> likely to overwhelm many of them through sheer brute force.  Those of us 
> fortunate enough not to be severely impacted are already looking for ways we 
> may help.  
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Re: [Texascavers] Houston question

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

I’ve received an email from David, plus emails off-list from lots of other 
people who told me he’s above water. Thanks, everybody. Jacqui

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> On Aug 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> David sent me a photo this morning.
> He is high and dry in a nice neighborhood where you can see green grass, not 
> mud.
>  
> Jon
>  
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Linda Palit via Texascavers
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:23 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Cc: Linda Palit <linda.k.pa...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Houston question
>  
> I got an update from him when he was stacking stuff in his house. I think 
> that was Monday.
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 7:08 PM Mike Furrey via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> I have seen him post a couple of times on FB offering the floor of his motel 
> room to any other cavers that may need a place to crash during Harvey.
>  
> Mike
>  
> 
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:15 AM, Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>  
> 
> Has anyone heard anything of David Locklear? Everyone else on this list seems 
> to be accounted for. Jacqui
>  
>  
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[Texascavers] Houston question

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Has anyone heard anything of David Locklear? Everyone else on this list seems 
to be accounted for. Jacqui


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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA happenings at the TSA Convention this weekend

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Who is in charge of collecting auction items? I forget…

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> On Apr 26, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Gregg Williams  wrote:
> 
> The TSA convention is fast approaching and it's really looking like it's 
> going to be a great one! 
> 
> After dinner Saturday afternoon and following some announcements from the TSA 
> folks the TCMA big auction will take place. A silent auction will also be 
> running all day. Make sure you stick around for the entire auction because 
> there is going to be a very big and exciting announcement and a couple very 
> special auction items at the close of the evening.
> 
> The TCMA will be hosting a delicious breakfast for donation on Sunday morning 
> at 8 am, huge thanks to Ellie Watson for taking the lead on that. After 
> everyone is filled up on yummy breakfast there will be a TCMA meeting for all 
> members to attend and hear what your organization has been up to for the last 
> year. 
> 
> I look forward to seeing everyone this weekend!
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] New Mexico gear restrictions

[Jacqueline Thomas]

You bet, Mark. It was your question regarding how long ago? that prompted folks 
to ask me to pass on the latest through the remailer. Jacq.


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> On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:44 AM, mark gee <markageetxca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jacqui
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:35 PM, Jacqueline Thomas 
> <jlrtho...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just got home from the Spring Convention for the Southwest Region and I 
> said I would post the gear update since Pd has been identified in Texas:
> 
> No Texas gear that has been in a Texas cave can come to New Mexico. We all 
> either need new, dedicated gear for NM or we need to borrow New Mexico gear 
> when we get there. There is no safe date (as in, “I haven’t caved with this 
> gear for 3 years”).
> 
> And so it goes. Jacqui
> 
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[Texascavers] New Mexico gear restrictions

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I just got home from the Spring Convention for the Southwest Region and I said 
I would post the gear update since Pd has been identified in Texas:

No Texas gear that has been in a Texas cave can come to New Mexico. We all 
either need new, dedicated gear for NM or we need to borrow New Mexico gear 
when we get there. There is no safe date (as in, “I haven’t caved with this 
gear for 3 years”).

And so it goes. Jacqui


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Re: [Texascavers] FYI, NGWA Conference on Hydrogeophysics and Deep Groundwater with Andrea Croskrey

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Awesome, Andrea! 


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> On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:17 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> Folks,
> 
> FYI, our very own Andrea Croskrey, with the Texas Water Development Board 
> will be the Keynote presenter at an upcoming National Ground Water 
> Association conference on Hydrogeophysics and Deep Groundwater in Denver 
> Colorado.  Data of the conference is March 20-21. This is quite an honor and 
> congradulations to Andrea. She has done some mighty fine work. Here is the 
> title of her talk and a little bio.
> 
> Keynote presentation
> 
> 
> Mapping Brackish Aquifers: Future Water Resources
> 
> presented by Andrea Croskrey, PG, Texas Water Development Board
> 
> Andrea Croskrey has been mapping brackish aquifers in Texas as a member of 
> the Brackish Resources Aquifer Characterization System - otherwise known as 
> BRACS - since 2013. Prior to working for the state, she was a geologist for 
> the U.S. National Park Service. Croskrey holds a B.S. in comprehensive 
> geology from Northwest Missouri State University and an M.S. in geosciences 
> from Western Kentucky University.
> http://www.ngwa.org/Events-Education/conferences/Pages/5043mar17.aspx
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Re: [Texascavers] craigslist

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

But who tells Craigslist this? I checked the box “prohibited” just to get the 
ball rolling but I did not call the seller. His only contact info is a phone 
number, upper left on the page.

On the list of prohibited items:
any good, service, or content that violates the law or legal rights of others

If you want to do anything else, you have to log in. Jacqui


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> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:40 AM, George D. Nincehelser via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> Sec. 201.042.  SALE OF SPELEOTHEMS.  (a)  A person may not sell or
> offer for sale any speleothems in this state, or export them for sale
> outside the state, without written permission from the owner of the
> cave from which the speleothems were removed.
> 
> (b)  A person who violates this section is guilty of a Class A
> misdemeanor, unless the person has previously been convicted of
> violating this section, in which case the person is guilty of a state
> jail felony.
> 
> http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/NR/htm/NR.201.htm
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> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Amalia Montoya via Texascavers
>  wrote:
>> Try to contact him, pretending you want to buy it, agreeing on any of his
>> requests, and get the most information from him and make it public.
>> 
>> Amalia
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016 10:56 AM, "Charles Loving via Texascavers"
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never gone there to look for Craig?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers
>>>  wrote:
 
 Some ahole on craigslist is selling cave popcorn..
 http://austin.craigslist.org/grd/5785241265.html
 
 Nico
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] craigslist

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

I am not “on” craigslist but was able to look up the listing and the 
pictures—42 plus pounds selling at a dollar a pound. If the listing goes away 
it means he’s sold it all, so getting on it right away is a good idea. The 
listing of prohibited items does not include cave formations. Maybe someone who 
can contact craigslist can get speleothems added to the prohibited list.

I find it interesting that the cave vandalism reward email and the popcorn 
email were in the same download.
Jacqui




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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> can someone flag it on craig’s list?  I’m not a member.
> BUST HIM
> k
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:46, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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>> Some ahole on craigslist is selling cave popcorn.. 
>> http://austin.craigslist.org/grd/5785241265.html
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Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Thanks, Jerry, interesting article.

Since porcupines are primarily tree critters, I wonder if the overgrazing and 
control of fire that turned my part of Texas from savannah grasslands (very few 
live oaks, minimal mesquite, junipers confined to the draws) into the late 
1800s to what it is today has contributed to porcupine creep. Once they were 
here, of course they recognized how great caves are.

Nice to see what Chris T. is up to these days. Jacqui


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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very interesting study, thanks Jerry.  
> 
> Cavers spend a lot of time in the wild and encounter lots of wildlife--both 
> fauna and flora. For the interested, I highly recommend the book Texas 
> Natural History: A Century of Change, by David J. Schmidly, Texas Tech 
> University Press, 2002.  The first half of the book is an introduction to and 
> reprint of the long out-of-print Biological Survey of Texas, 1889-1905, by 
> Vernon Bailey--an amazing quest. In the second half, Schmidly documents the 
> changes that have occurred to the landscapes/flora and mammalian fauna during 
> the 20th Century, with photos and distribution maps comparing then and now.  
> 
> In the 1889-1905 Biological Survey, porcupines were recorded only in the NW 
> panhandle (Tascosa County) and the Trans-Pecos Davis Mtns area. The current 
> range (as of ca. 2000) is all but the eastern 1/3 of the state, and deep 
> south Texas.
> 
> There are even photos of a jaguar killed in 1903 near Goldthwaite (Mills 
> County)--that's 100 miles NW of Austin!--and another one killed near San 
> Benito (Cameron County) in 1946.  Also in Cameron County...an ocelot killed 
> 1924, and a jaguarundi road kill in 1986.
> 
> A porcupine showed up in my next-door neighbor's yard in early Sept 2012, one 
> block south of a busy highway (Ben White Blvd) in south central Austin.  I 
> called a licensed wildlife trapper named Rio Tenango who easily netted it and 
> released it on a distant ranch that accepts such urban rescues. Small world-- 
> Rio recognized my house because he had been here for a UT Grotto vertical 
> training in my back yard years before.
> 
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> 
> On 8/25/2016 8:15 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers wrote:
>> And I can say they have been common in Government Canyon caves for years. 
>> However, just in the last couple of years have I seen increased amounts of 
>> road-killed porcupines around Spring Branch.
>> 
>> Marvin Miller
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Texascavers [
>> mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com
>> ] On Behalf Of Jerryatkin via Texascavers
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:01 PM
>> To: 
>> texascavers@texascavers.com
>> 
>> Cc: 
>> texascavers@texascavers.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many 
>> south-central Texas caves :
>> 
>> They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards 
>> Plateau caves.
>> 
>> Jerry Atkinson.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>> 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple live in Deep.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --Don
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers 
 
  wrote:
 
 
 http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-f
 
 inds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cf
 be577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html
 
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[Texascavers] forward from Saj re: TCMA

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

From Saj re: TCMA

Hey everyone, 
So the post office mistakenly closed our PO Box from sometime in May until the 
end of July. It took awhile to realize that there was a problem and even longer 
to resolve it due to poor customer service on the part of the post office. 
Please forgive us for this lapse in service! If you sent us any mail during 
that time period, we have not received it! Please make sure that any missing 
checks are voided. Our postal service has resumed, so feel free to re-send any 
important documents, postcards, etc.! 
Thank you! 
Also, could someone post this to the listserve? Cheers!


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Re: [Texascavers] finalized Program for this weekend

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Daniel,
I just opened it and if you click on the link then close the box that asks you 
to sign in or sign up, the program is right there behind the box. It then acts 
just like a .pdf, with the bar at the bottom for enlarging, etc. You don’t even 
have to download it to your computer. Jacqui


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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Caver via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do you have any other type that we can view the program? I don't want to 
> download an app that I will never use again and have no desire to. 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Daniel Ramirez
> 
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
>> The Program is back from the printers.  Thanks to the 2016 NSS Convention 
>> for buying adspace and allowing us to print in color.  Preview the PDF 
>> version at 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbqsne2renz0js3/2016%20TSA%20Convention%20program%20v2.pdf?dl=0.
>> 
>> NOTE TO PRESENTERS: make sure that you have ALL of your talk on your laptop 
>> or flash drive. Do not assume that you will have internet access at the 
>> fairgrounds. You will not be able to go online to show any Google Earth 
>> images or YouTube videos when you are there. Download everything in advance, 
>> and make sure it works before you arrive.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] school kids at TSA Spring Convention

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Any of you who work at Texas schools know that time to deviate from planned 
activities and lessons is at a minimum. Maybe someone out there knows how what 
we are doing fits into the science curriculum and how to play to that?

I have taught in a town of similar size and have found the exact opposite of 
what was expressed earlier. Jacqui

 
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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:14 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> See you there. You want another plant? I want a mystery plant from your 
> collection. Someone bought my painting of Devil'c Sinkhole looking up from 
> the bottom last night. Darn.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> Cool, thanks!  Keep trying!
> 
> Jim
> 
> Mobile email from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 2, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
> >  wrote:
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> > Crash
> > I talked to the schools and let them know. I don't know if there was any 
> > excitement. These are really back water schools. A teacher friend says 
> > these two schools are really very dumb. Sorry but I tried. Will keep after 
> > it.
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Re: [Texascavers] Sad news

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Oh, I am so very sad to hear that--we email occasionally and I always look 
forward to seeing him at caving events. I no idea…  Jacqui


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On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers wrote:

> Texas cavers,
> 
> I just learned that Houston caver Jim McLane has passed away. 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Sad news

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Or… Are we perhaps referring to the father of James McLane III, also a NASA 
engineer but not the caver? 


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On Sep 22, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers wrote:

> Oh, I am so very sad to hear that--we email occasionally and I always look 
> forward to seeing him at caving events. I no idea…  Jacqui
> 
> 
> Jacqui Thomas
> jlrtho...@verizon.net
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers wrote:
> 
>> Texas cavers,
>> 
>> I just learned that Houston caver Jim McLane has passed away. 
>> 
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[Texascavers] carabiner recall

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Does anyone use DMM carabiners? They have had a recall. I think it's more 
likely Scout climbing programs, etc. who buy and use large quantities of 
carabiners but the link to the .pdf about the issue is:

http://dmmclimbing.com/documents/dmm-product-recall-14-09-2015.pdf

Jacqui


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Re: [Texascavers] Fires in Edwards County

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Thanks, Aimee! 


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On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers wrote:

 
 There are three active wildfires in Edwards County right now, one north of 
 Rocksprings and two south.  One of them is about 15 miles northeast of Punkin 
 and Deep.  I don't think it is a threat to PD but it may affect getting to 
 the preserve if you plan to visit.  
 
 Here is the info from SOC

 The State of Texas State Operations Center (SOC) received an updated report 
 #2 of the Brown Ranch Fire in Edwards County. After a fly-over by US Customs 
  Border Patrol (CBP) helicopter is was determined the wildfire has burnt 
 approximately 2,200 acres. Incident Command Post has been set up at the 
 junction of Farm-to-Market (FM) Road 674 and US Highway 377.  The Middle Rio 
 Grande Development Council (MRGDC) Command Trailer was set up.  The Texas 
 Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is providing fuel to Texas Forest 
 Service and Edwards County vehicles. Department of Public Safety (DPS) Texas 
 Highway Patrol (THP) is assisting with traffic control. The American Red 
 Cross (ARC) Kerrville is providing canteen services. (DC 24– Del Rio)  DDC 24
 
 Yours Truly,
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] If you're going to GUMO in the near future...

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That's just flat-out hilarious, Logan!


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On Jul 14, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote:

 Scary squirrels for sure.  But in much of Texas a new problem has 
 arisen--possibly because of the long drought and major floods:  flesh-eating 
 flamingos.  At least they're keeping the t-rex population under control.  
 (see attached)
 
 Lowgun
 
 On 7/13/2015 4:20 PM, Louise Power wrote:
 ...beware of the squirrels.
 
 http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/squirrel-captured-eating-a-snake-in-amazing-photo/vi-AAcUVfM
 
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Re: [Texascavers] TSA magazine

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

All,
On the webpage with links to the Texas Caver, the 3rd link down is to the .pdf 
version. It's a low resolution version, but it is the garden variety .pdf that 
most of us can access. Jacqui


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On May 2, 2015, at 3:37 PM, via Texascavers wrote:

 While I support new technologies as they become appropriate to the members of 
 TSA, I think we need to also supply the older PDF format of the Texas Caver 
 for some time to come. The ePub format, for those not familiar with it, is an 
 open E-book format made for readers. It is portable to many hardware readers, 
 though not to Kindles apparently.
 
 Jerry.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 The current issue of the TSA magazine is available online. Issues were 
 passed out at the TSA convention this past weekend and those not attending 
 will be mailed or passed out at your grotto meeting if you regularly attend.
 
  
 
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 graphic design
 
 210.931-4633
 
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Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Conv., Salon Winners

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Congratulations, all! Wish I coulda seen everything.  Jacqui



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On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:

 Congratulations to the following winners of the 2015 TSA Spring Convention 
 Photo Salon. We had several submissions this year, 19 photo prints, 12 
 digital photos and 9 maps. Thank you to everyone for their participation.
 
 Photo, Print
   • Galen Falgout
   • Jake Kirk
   • Mike Harris
 Photo, Digital 
   • Bennett Lee
   • Travis Scott
   • Travis Scott
 Cartography, Less than 100 meters
   • Marvin Miller, Lost Pothole
   • Marvin Miller, Turquoise Sink 
   • Ben Hutchins, Falling Animal
 Cartography, More than 100 meters
   • Peter Sprouse  Gill Ediger, Jaguar Maw
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Thanks, All!!!


Jacqui Thomas
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers wrote:

 The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up!
  
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Re: [Texascavers] SCCI purchases Stephen's Gap

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

That is great news, Bill! Thanks for passing it along. Jacq.


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On Dec 21, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers wrote:

 Bunches of Texas cavers have done Alabama's Stephen's Gap. 
 
 Bill Steele
 cwilliamste...@gmail.com
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: HiddenWorld.Net tag-...@hiddenworld.net
 Date: December 21, 2014 at 9:07:00 PM PST
 To: speleoste...@aol.com
 Subject: Tag-Net Digest #6910 
 Reply-To: tag-...@hiddenworld.net 
 
 
 Tag-Net - The Southeastern Underground...Online!
 Digest #6910, Mon, 12/22/14, 00:00 EST
 
 CONTENTS:
 
 
 1)  SCCi buys Stephens Gap!
By: Ron Miller
 
 
 
 __
 
 
 1)  SCCi buys Stephens Gap!
  By: Ron Miller  (Rome, Georgia)
  rmil...@ronmiller.net
 
 
 For those of you who have not already heard through other channels . . .
 
 The Board of Directors of the Southeastern Cave Conservancy is extremely
 pleased to announce our latest acquisition, the Stephens Gap Callahan Cave
 Preserve!
 
 On December 12, 2014, SCCi purchased 77.8 acres of karst hillside property
 that contains the entire extent of Stephens Gap Cave as well as four other
 known caves, including Pipeside Pit. The preserve is located in Jackson
 County, Alabama, about six miles west of the city of Scottsboro.
 
 The total cost for acquisition and long-term stewardship of the property is
 approximately $150,000.
 
 Stephens Gap Cave is a crown jewel among the thousands of known caves in the
 TAG region. The cave has seven entrances and nearly one half-mile of known
 passage. Its spectacular entrance area, including a 143-foot deep open-air 
 pit
 entrance and a separate large walk-down slope entrance, is perhaps the most
 photogenic cave entrance in the entire United States. Stephens Gap Cave has
 been featured in National Geographic magazine and has even been the site of
 many weddings! The main pit contains two waterfalls that cascade down the pit
 and an elevated area known as the Pedestal. Under the right conditions, 
 shafts
 of sunlight extend over 100 feet below the surface and illuminate the
 waterfalls and the Pedestal, making for a stunning scene that presents
 remarkable photographic opportunities.
 
 Stephens Gap Cave is widely enjoyed by cavers, hikers, and outdoor 
 enthusiasts
 because the cave (including the Pedestal) is accessible both by cavers
 who use vertical rope techniques as well as by visitors who walk down the
 large, naturally lit slope entrance.
 
 It is through the support of our loyal donors and members that the SCCi was
 able to purchase this cave to be preserved and protected as well as kept
 accessible for all to enjoy.
 
 But we still need your help to pay for the SCCi's latest, and likely most
 popular, acquisition. You can contribute in many ways!
 
 Buy A Piece of Stephens Gap Cave in our online eStore
 [https://app.etapestry.com/cart/SoutheasternCaveConservancyIn/default/index.php].
 Many named features, including the pedestal, entrances, and waterfalls, as
 well as one-foot slices of both main entrances, are already available, with
 more to be added soon! Once purchased, your name will be added to the 
 official
 SCCi cave map. Many donors have already staked their claim, so if you have a
 certain piece in mind don't delay!
 
 Make a one-time donation in support of the Stephens Gap Callahan Cave 
 Preserve
 [https://app.etapestry.com/cart/SoutheasternCaveConservancyIn/default/index.php].
 In our eStore, you may also make a one-time donation in support of our most
 recent acquisition. 
 
 Become an SCCi member[http://www.scci.org/join2/]. 
 Show that you care about protecting caves for as little as $25 a year by
 becoming a member of the SCCi.
 
 Become a sustaining member or increase your sustaining
 membership[http://www.scci.org/sustaining/]. 
 Sustaining members are truly the lifeblood of the SCCi; the regular monthly
 income that we obtain from sustaining-member donations is critical to the
 SCCi's ability to plan for the future. As a sustaining member, your credit
 card will be automatically charged monthly. You can become a sustainer for as
 little as $10 per month.
 
 Join the Valhalla Society
 [http://www.scci.org/support/planned-giving-the-valhalla-society/]. 
 This special group includes the dedicated SCCi members who have chosen to
 remember the SCCi through planned giving. For more information email
 leg...@scci.org or consult a financial planning professional.
 
 ~~
 
 Visit us online at www.scci.org.
 Support the SCCi at www.scci.org/support.
 Follow us on Facebook at 
 https://www.facebook.com/SoutheasternCaveConservancy. 
 
 
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[Texascavers] Fwd: [NSSwest] Bat Animation Informational Video

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

This has showed up on a couple of remailers and it's definitely worth watching. 
Jacqui

Jacqui Thomas
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 From NSS West
 
 Amy Wray (M.A., Columbia Univ), put together this excellent informational 
 video/cartoon about bats, disease, and their ecosystem services. I’m very 
 impressed by this, when you have 5 min please check it out and feel free to 
 distribute widely! She touches on a lot of important issues in a very 
 accessible way, including White Nose Syndrome!
 
 I'm Batman - Amy Wray

 I'm Batman - Amy Wray
 What flies through the night, silently guarding and protecting our world from 
 evil? Batman? Try...a bat. Like Batman, bats are widely misunderstood and 
 vi...
 View on ed.ted.com
 Preview by Yahoo
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] tcr video by Dorothy Mladenka

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Thanks, Logan! And Dorothy.
That was so much like the 8mms of my childhood--all it was missing was the 
obnoxious light bar. Jacqui


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On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote:

 Dorothy Mladenka provided this link to a video she took at TCR with her 
 amazingly tiny video camera (see at end of video).
 The video is 6:37 long with no sound, but lots of good people shots.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pgt9PdqoU
 
 
 
 
 Here's the link to her 2011 TCR video.
 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At_gW4Y0RmA
 
 
 
 Her email is dmlade...@juno.com
 
 
 Logan McNatt
 
 lmcn...@austin.rr.com
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mysterious water well unearthed in Erath County

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Very interesting story--I hope they can find out more and that we hear about 
it. Jacqui


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On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers wrote:

 
  Not sure if this qualifies as another spring for the TSS Database, but it's 
 an interesting story. Posted on the Texas Archeological Society list 
 yesterday.
 
 The geomorphologist, Dr. Charles Frederick, is a very well-respected 
 scientist who has worked on many archeological projects in Texas for decades. 
 I've worked with him on several.
 
 Logan McNatt
 lmcn...@austin.rr.com
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  Mysterious water well unearthed in Erath County
 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:39:49 -0500
 From: Chris Barry cmbarry2...@gmail.com
 To:   txarc...@listserv.tamu.edu
 
 http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/09/25/6149907/mysterious-water-well-unearthed.html?rh=1
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard forGeoscientists

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Logan you make me laugh. Really, really laugh. Jacq.

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On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers wrote:

 I have had it along with most California archeologists.  it almost killed 
 McEachern.
  
 Ron
  
 From: Julia Germany via Texascavers
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:37 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard 
 forGeoscientists
  
 As a member of AGI, I received this press release.  Until now, I have never 
 heard of Valley Fever.  I am curious if any of you out there have any 
 experience/knowledge about it.
 
 julia
  
 germa...@aol.com 
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: AGI Public Relations outre...@agiweb.org
 To: germanyj germa...@aol.com
 Sent: Wed, Sep 10, 2014 2:15 pm
 Subject: EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard for Geoscientists
 
 Contact: Megan Sever (mse...@earthmagazine.org
 )
 
 For Immediate Release
 
 EARTH: Valley Fever an Occupational Hazard for Geoscientists
 
 Alexandria, Va. -  Valley Fever - a sometimes-fatal infection with no known 
 cure
 and no vaccine - is caused by a soilborne fungus that thrives in the hot, dry
 soils of the southwestern U.S., Mexico and Central and South America. However,
 recent reports of infections far outside the endemic area indicate the fungus 
 is
 either spreading or becoming active in new areas. The disease is contracted
 through inhalation of fungal spores, which can be aerosolized by soil
 disturbances from construction, excavation, gardening and landscaping, as well
 as natural events like dust storms, earthquakes, landslides and wildfires.
 Geoscientists working in the field need to take precautions against 
 contracting
 the disease.
 
 Scientists say that little is currently known about the fungus' preferred
 geology and how a changing climate might be affecting its spread. Read more
 about where the disease has been found, current research on the disease and 
 how
 to protect yourself in the field in the September issue of EARTH Magazine:
 
 http://bit.ly/1l1mi21
 . 
 
 For more stories about the science of our planet, check out EARTH magazine
 online or subscribe at 
 www.earthmagazine.org
 . The September issue, now available
 on the digital newsstand, features stories about floating nuclear plants
 potentially being safer from tsunamis than land-based plants, natural arsenic
 levels exceeding regulatory standards in Ohio, and the new literary genre of
 Cli-Fi, stories about the future of humanity living under an altered 
 climate,
 plus much, much more. 
 
  ###
 
 Keep up to date with the latest happenings in Earth, energy and environment 
 news
 with EARTH magazine online at 
 http://www.earthmagazine.org/
 . Published by the
 American Geosciences Institute, EARTH is your source for the science behind 
 the
 headlines.
 
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 The American Geosciences Institute is a nonprofit federation of 49 
 geoscientific
 and professional associations that represents more than 250,000 geologists,
 geophysicists and other earth scientists. Founded in 1948, AGI provides
 information services to geoscientists, serves as a voice of shared interests 
 in
 the profession, plays a major role in strengthening geoscience education, and
 strives to increase public awareness of the vital role the geosciences play in
 society's use of resources, resiliency to natural hazards, and interaction 
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Wouldn't old-timer-ness be more of a function of how long someone's been caving 
than of age? 

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On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers wrote:

 That means you’re old enough to know better than to attend, Bill  ;-)
  
 -Stefan
  
 stefan.crea...@arm.com
  
  
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Bill Bentley via Texascavers
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:50 AM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration Prices
  
 What constitutes an Old Timer qualification?
 
 
 On 9/12/2014 11:29 AM, Ellie Watson via Texascavers wrote:
 TCR Registration Prices:
  
 Adult - $25.00
 Child - $15.00
 Family - $80.00
 Old timer - $15.00
  
 Registration gets you a wristband, meal, beverages and a chance at door 
 prizes.
  
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Re: [Texascavers] Moonshadow

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

If texascavers had I like button I'd hit it. Jacq.

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On Aug 25, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers wrote:

 
 
 Moonshadow.m4a
 
 I think u can just select this and it will play. Hens 1st music recording!
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

'Bye, Chris,
Have a fantastic party and come back to us! Jacq.


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On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers wrote:

 Folks,
 
 I just wanted to send out a STRONG reminder about the Bexar Grotto Party for 
 Chris Lafferty. Chris is a chemical engineer and will be on a temporary 
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[Texascavers] contact info.

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

Crash,
Allan Cobb tells me you are now it. Please contact me off-list--I only have 
your batcon email address. Jacqui

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

[Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers]

No, No, Nooo! Save them for the Caver, Mr. Loving, sir, please

Here's an idea--
I saw multiple people do interesting things at NSS Convention and maybe no one 
wants to write a real trip report but multiple brief vignettes by several 
attendees, collected into a glimpses of Convention article could be pretty 
entertaining. I'd write up my favorite fooled me moment. 

Any takers?

Jacqui

On Jul 30, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers wrote:

 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 As per request from a caver unnamed, I'm posting this here too. You know, 
 just in case I haven't already royally pissed you off yet. But you know what? 
 Worth it.
 
 
 
 The Texas Caver has just been sent off to the printer. This is the May issue 
 of the Texas Caver. Why is it almost August and the May issue is only finally 
 being printed? Why, it's because no Texas Cavers actually  send in trip 
 reports to be published! We can't make a newsletter/magazine if there's 
 nothing to put in it.
 
 I know LOTS of you have gone on a number of Texas caving trips in the past 
 couple of months. I know LOTS of you went on plenty of AMAZING TAG trips this 
 month. Why is no one sending in articles? Jill spends an exorbitant amount of 
 her personal volunteer time making the layout, editing, adding photos, etc. 
 All the things needed to make the Texas Caver a great publication. We won one 
 award at the Publication Salon at the NSS Convention. ONE. How many did other 
 organizations win? You know why? Because they actually have stuff to 
 publish
 
 There's an article about Texas Caving in the most recent NSS News. Why? Why 
 isn't that article in the Texas Caver? Just because it goes in the national 
 magazine doesn't mean it can't also go in the local magazine. If you're going 
 to put one together for NSS, go ahead and copy Jill on your email! (I've seen 
 this a number of times, not just this month).
 
 Bottom line is, if you want to see your Texas Caver magazine in the mail 
 anymore, you need to man up, be a part of the answer instead of the problem, 
 and start sending in your trip reports and photos. If you don't want to 
 publish something because you think you can't write, have someone copyedit it 
 for you first. I'll be happy to go through and fix spelling and grammatical 
 errors, as long as you SEND SOMETHING IN!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 TL;DR
 Start sending articles and photos to the Texas Caver or I will camp on your 
 front doorstep until you write something down. I know who you are.
 
 /end rant
 
 
 
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 Go find out!
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 TSA Secretary  Membership Chair
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Re: [Texascavers] Bad fire season a-comin'

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Very good advice for anyone living in an urban/wild land interface. That said, 
last time I was at Punkin/Deep the building was in excellent shape regarding 
wildfire preparedness. 

We have already had a 14,000+ acre wildfire out this way. Which brings me to 
another concern: Don't burn stuff outside. Anything. The aforementioned fire 
was started by someone burning trash.

Keep cool and be safe,
Jacqui


On May 5, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Louise Power wrote:

 According to all indications, this may be one of the worst wildfire seasons 
 on record because of the continuing drought and hot weather. I

Re: [PBSS] [SWR] February Meeting of the PBSS

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Then you won't see me. Jacqui

On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:

 I won't be there.
 Bill
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID (junky technology)
 
 
 Ormsby, Matthew A matthew.orm...@usoncology.com wrote:
 
 All,
 The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Thursday 
 February 20, 2014 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in 
 Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet 
 in the back room. Come early  have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00.
 
 There are a few caving opportunities coming up in March that will be 
 highlighted, one vertical and one horizontal.
  
 Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
 Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com, Jacqui 
 Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net
  
 PBSS web page:
 http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
 The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
 chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on 
 January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated 
 grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the 
 Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the 
 cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.
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[Texascavers] Link to NSS Bookstore Holiday Greetings

[Jacqueline Thomas]

All,
The flyer from the NSS Bookstore is now on the TSA Homepage: 

http://www.cavetexas.org/ Click on the thumbnail for a larger image. Below the 
thumbnail is a link to the NSS Bookstore.

Butch Fralia very kindly set this up so I wouldn't have to send it out on the 
remailer. Thanks, Butch! Jacqui

 

[SWR] Fwd: **URL Corrected** NSS-CDS Cave Diver Training: A Brief Overview, by Jim Wyatt (NSS#56713)

[Jacqueline Thomas]

All,
Geary Schindel asked me to forward this information to the SWR.

Please note that, even if you have already received this webinar notice on 
another list, this one is the most recent, with the corrected url. Jacqui

Begin forwarded message:

 From: National Speleological Society Inc. 
 national_speleological_societ...@mail.vresp.com
 Subject: **URL Corrected** NSS-CDS Cave Diver Training: A Brief Overview, by 
 Jim Wyatt (NSS#56713)
 Date: November 7, 2013 10:15:00 AM CST
 To: jlrtho...@verizon.net
 Reply-To: National Speleological Society Inc. 
 reply-d8d785b5d4-fa7fdaa05a-8...@u.cts.vresp.com
 
   
 Click to view this email in a browser
 
   
   
 
 
 “National Speleological Society – Cave Diving Section Cave Diver Training: 
 A Brief Overview,” 
 by Jim Wyatt (NSS # 56713)
  
 Join us for a Webinar on November 14, 2013
 9:00 – 10:30 p.m. EST.
  
  
 Space is limited, so reserve your Webinar seat now at:
 https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/271455071
  
  
 Connect with Jim Wyatt, Training Director for the National Speleological 
 Society – Cave Diving Section (NSS-CDS), for a concise overview of what 
 cavern and cave diver training entails. 
  
 What first steps should one take in order to become a competent cave diver?  
 What is the required equipment, and what indispensable skills are taught in 
 this training?  
 What are the psychological implications of training and practicing in this 
 field?  
 How do divers promote cave conservation, and what role do landowner relations 
 play in carrying out these explorations successfully?   
 How are task loading and muscle memory involved?
  
 All of these questions and more will be addressed in this comprehensive 
 Webinar regarding the essential nature of comprehensive training in cavern 
 and cave diving.
  
  Jim has been a cave diving instructor since 1975, and he is formerly a U.S. 
 Navy Ship Salvage Diving Officer.  He is a former member of the National 
 Association for Cave Diving (NACD), and currently serves on the Board of 
 Advisors for the International Association of Nitrox and Technical Divers 
 (IANTD) and instructs both closed and open circuit cave diver classes.  Not 
 only is Jim the Training Director, but he is also a Full Cave Instructor for 
 the NSS-CDS.  He is an instructor for the NACD, and a Technical Cave and 
 Driver Propulsion Vehicle (DPV) Instructor Trainer for the IANTD.   He is a 
 Cave DPV Instructor for the NSS-CDS, IANTD, and Technical Diving 
 International (TDI) - the list goes on and on!
  
  
 TITLE: “National Speleological Society – Cave Diving Section Cave Diver 
 Training: A Brief Overview,” by Jim Wyatt
  
 DATE: Thursday, November 14, 2013
  
 TIME: 9:00 PM - 10:30 p.m. EST
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Re: [PBSS] [SWR] PBSS member Kayde Hill wins Chuck Stuehm Award at the Texas Cavers Reunion

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Congratulations, Kayde!!! Jacqui



On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Bill Bentley wrote:

 October 19,2013
 Permian Basin Speleological Society member Kayde Hill wins Chuck Stuehm Award 
 at the Texas Cavers Reunion...
 
 The Chuck Stuehm Award
 —An Annual Grotto Award for Exceptional New Cavers
  
 Have you ever heard of the Chuck Stuehm Award? It is an award for new and 
 exceptional cavers, and can be
 awarded to one new caver in each grotto in Texas. The award is named after 
 Raymond Chuck Stuehm
 (pronounced “ Steam”) who was a member of several Grottos in the San Antonio 
 area and was especially
 good at guiding, working with, and encouraging new cavers. Chuck's memory is 
 honored every time a new,
 exceptionally exuberant caver receives this award. Every grotto has the 
 opportunity to encourage new
 cavers by selecting a new caver for this award every year.
 Chuck Stuehm died an untimely death on January 31, 1980 at the age of 52. A 
 memorial issue of the Texas
 Caver was a memorial issue for Chuck, outlining many of his accomplishments 
 in caving. At the same time
 the Chuck Stuehm Award was established for to be given to an outstanding new 
 caver in each grotto each year at
 Texas Cavers’ Reunion (TCR), which was then called the Old Timers’ Reunion.
 The Chuck Stuehm Award Requirements:
 The only requirement for the award is that the caver has been caving two 
 years or less and shows an unusual
 enthusiasm and interest in caving, and all aspects of caving. Selection of 
 the recipient is by the grotto in whatever
 way they choose. Often the officers will choose the recipient after 
 consulting some of the more active members
 of the grotto, keeping the award a surprise until TCR. Often the grotto will 
 also honor the recipient at
 the next grotto meeting after TCR.
  
 The Chuck Stuehm Award Prize: The prize is one year's membership to the TSA 
 (Texas Speleological Association)
 and a shiny certificate suitable for framing. If the winner is already a TSA 
 member they will receive one year's
 extension of membership. The Chuck Stuehm Award winners were announced at TCR 
 on October 19th, 2011.
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Re: [Texascavers] Ladder-falling 101

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Hold my beer and watch this… 
Jacq.

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck wrote:

 Glad there was no serious damage. 
 
 Sheryl
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 
 On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:36 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't know if it was jealousy or envy, but I felt the urge to join my 
 ladder falling friends tonight.
 
 As hard as I tried, I could not get hospitalized.
 
 I did in style though, and would have scored a ten, had the judges been 
 there.
 
 It is probably my imagination, but in that micro-second that I was airborne, 
 my brain had time to say to itself, you got to be frickin kidding me.
 
 The moral to the story is, 
 There is really a reason not to stand on that top step.
 
 And,
 
 for once I can say, my fat posterior came in handy, as it took the brunt 
 of the fall.
 
 David Locklear
 

Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Lubbock.

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -
KCBD 11 in Lubbock



A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank, Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years.

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.



Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock

Jacqui


On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

 Probably Bill's private cave. 
 
 Sent via C=64 Mobile
 
 On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
 where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
 tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
 this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
  
 Kerry
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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Lubbock.

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -
KCBD 11 in Lubbock



A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank, Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years.

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.



Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock

Jacqui


On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

 Probably Bill's private cave. 
 
 Sent via C=64 Mobile
 
 On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
 where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
 tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
 this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
  
 Kerry
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[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Lint camp

[Jacqueline Thomas]

From the SW Region remailer:



Begin forwarded message:

 
 Subject: [SWR] Lint camp
 Date: August 29, 2013 10:39:25 AM CDT
 
 
 Pat Jablonsky is looking for people who might want to help out at Lint Camp 
 at Carlsbad Caverns in September 23, 24, 26, and or 27 (they take Wednesday 
 off).  Thursday the 26 is the only day they do a full day.  Others are a.m. 
 only.  If you can think of anyone who might be able to and want to help,  
 have them contact her.
 
 
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[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Lint camp

[Jacqueline Thomas]

From the SW Region remailer:



Begin forwarded message:

 
 Subject: [SWR] Lint camp
 Date: August 29, 2013 10:39:25 AM CDT
 
 
 Pat Jablonsky is looking for people who might want to help out at Lint Camp 
 at Carlsbad Caverns in September 23, 24, 26, and or 27 (they take Wednesday 
 off).  Thursday the 26 is the only day they do a full day.  Others are a.m. 
 only.  If you can think of anyone who might be able to and want to help,  
 have them contact her.
 
 
 Pat Jablonsky patj...@hotmail.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Has someone checked that there is already oak wilt at Paradise Canyon before we 
start bringing firewood in from where there IS oak wilt? 

Just wondering… Jacqui

On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Galen Falgout wrote:

 I can haul a trailer of wood to tcr. An I wouldn't Mind going split wood ither
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:05 AM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 You shoulda bought the Moby Dick I had for sale when you had the chance!!
 
 DirtDoc
 
 From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com
 To: Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com
 Cc: Oztotl d...@oztotl.com, June Levy kittymr...@aol.com, Mandy 
 holt mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us, Jenny Holt jhol...@hotmail.com, 
 Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:30:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]
 
 I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to 
 haul. 
 
 Jim

Re: [SWR] AR.Drone 2.0 caving recon platform

[Jacqueline Thomas]

John,
Thanks, that was great fun! Juan Corrin's non-quadrocopter cave videos are 
interesting, too. 

Jacqui

 
On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, John Lyles wrote:

 Google search this term, and see YouTube videos taken in caves using a 
 AR.Drone 2.0 quadrocopter.
 
 ardrone juan corrin
 
 Enjoy,
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Re: [SWR] AR.Drone 2.0 caving recon platform

[Jacqueline Thomas]

John,
Thanks, that was great fun! Juan Corrin's non-quadrocopter cave videos are 
interesting, too. 

Jacqui

 
On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, John Lyles wrote:

 Google search this term, and see YouTube videos taken in caves using a 
 AR.Drone 2.0 quadrocopter.
 
 ardrone juan corrin
 
 Enjoy,
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[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

From George Veni at NCKRI:

Begin forwarded message:

 From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
 Subject: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel
 Date: July 2, 2013 3:10:45 PM CDT
 To: New Mexico Cavers s...@caver.net, Cavers Texas 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 Dear Friends,
  
 The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months 
 ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest 
 Places and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday 
 the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 
 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the times may 
 be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events. Details and 
 times are supposed to be posted athttp://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, 
 although their on-line schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the 
 on-screen schedule on my TV that day.
  
 The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
 questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world 
 class cave.
  
 George
  
 P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
 interested.
  
 
 George Veni, Ph.D.
 Executive Director
 National Cave and Karst Research Institute
 400-1 Cascades Avenue
 Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
 Office: 575-887-5517
 Mobile: 210-863-5919
 Fax: 575-887-5523
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[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

From George Veni at NCKRI:

Begin forwarded message:

 From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
 Subject: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel
 Date: July 2, 2013 3:10:45 PM CDT
 To: New Mexico Cavers s...@caver.net, Cavers Texas 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 Dear Friends,
  
 The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months 
 ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest 
 Places and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday 
 the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 
 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the times may 
 be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events. Details and 
 times are supposed to be posted athttp://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, 
 although their on-line schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the 
 on-screen schedule on my TV that day.
  
 The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
 questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world 
 class cave.
  
 George
  
 P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
 interested.
  
 
 George Veni, Ph.D.
 Executive Director
 National Cave and Karst Research Institute
 400-1 Cascades Avenue
 Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
 Office: 575-887-5517
 Mobile: 210-863-5919
 Fax: 575-887-5523
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 www.nckri.org
  
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[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

From George Veni at NCKRI:

Begin forwarded message:

 From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
 Subject: [SWR] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel
 Date: July 2, 2013 3:10:45 PM CDT
 To: New Mexico Cavers s...@caver.net, Cavers Texas 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 Dear Friends,
  
 The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months 
 ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest 
 Places and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday 
 the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 
 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the times may 
 be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events. Details and 
 times are supposed to be posted athttp://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, 
 although their on-line schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the 
 on-screen schedule on my TV that day.
  
 The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
 questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world 
 class cave.
  
 George
  
 P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
 interested.
  
 
 George Veni, Ph.D.
 Executive Director
 National Cave and Karst Research Institute
 400-1 Cascades Avenue
 Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
 Office: 575-887-5517
 Mobile: 210-863-5919
 Fax: 575-887-5523
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[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui

On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote:

 This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when 
 contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his 
 mail list!
 
 Mimi Jasek
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other 
 cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others 
 are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters 
 set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails. Anybody 
 know the genesis of these? Some of the names I recognize, but as I said, the 
 links look suspicious.
 
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[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui

On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote:

 This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when 
 contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his 
 mail list!
 
 Mimi Jasek
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other 
 cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others 
 are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters 
 set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails. Anybody 
 know the genesis of these? Some of the names I recognize, but as I said, the 
 links look suspicious.
 
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[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui

On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote:

 This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when 
 contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his 
 mail list!
 
 Mimi Jasek
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other 
 cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others 
 are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters 
 set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails. Anybody 
 know the genesis of these? Some of the names I recognize, but as I said, the 
 links look suspicious.
 
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[SWR] Fwd: [PBSS] Climbing gear damage

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Geary Schindel in San Antonio posted the following to PBSS  TX Cavers but is 
not on the SWR remailer. Interesting… Jacqui

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] [SWR] Climbing gear damage
 Date: June 13, 2013 8:09:56 AM CDT
 To: 'Jacqueline Thomas' jlrtho...@verizon.net, p...@caver.net 
 Texascavers@texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 Nice article and evaluation.
  
 I know that some folks think I’m paranoid (which may be true) but I’ve always 
 carried my ropes and vertical gear in protective bags. The possibility of 
 damage to ropes and vertical gear thrown in the back of pickup trucks is much 
 too great. Reminds me of a trip I was supposed to go on when I was in 
 college. A bunch of friends put together a trip to do the big pits in Mexico 
 over Christmas. I really couldn’t afford to go and had to cancel.  However, 
 my friends went. The group bought a long rope which they thought was too big 
 to place in a pack so they stuffed it loose in the back of the van. They did 
 El Sotano and everyone climbed in and out with no problem.
  
 They then went over to Golondrinas. Two folks rappelled in with no problems. 
 The third person rappelled in and the rope sheath separated and jammed into 
 the rack, about 100 feet over the lip. So, here he was dangling about 900 
 feet off the floor of the cave with the rope starting to part. He didn’t want 
 to place his safety ascender on the rope as that was where the rope sheath 
 separated. The folks up top lowered down the tail of the rope and he was able 
 to change over and ascend out of the pit.
  
 The top crew than pulled up the rope, threw down some notes asking what the 
 two guys on the bottom wanted to do. The choices were, wait about a week in 
 the bottom of the pit while the cavers hiked a day out to the road, drove 
 back to the US to get another rope and to return.
  
 Second option was to lower the bad portion of the rope into the pit and use 
 the end that was in the bottom to anchor the rope and let the cavers on 
 bottom climb out. That is what the cavers decided to do. They climbed out 
 without incident.
  
 A government chemist on the trip took the damaged part of the rope back to 
 his lab and did some tests and found the rope had been exposed to battery 
 acid. The owner of the van had said that he had carried a car battery in the 
 back of the van about a month before and that it must have leaked.
  
 Tough lesson learned.
  
 Geary
  
 From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
 Jacqueline Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:37 PM
 To: p...@caver.net; Southwest Region Region; Texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [SWR] Climbing gear damage
  
 Below is a link to a Black Diamond investigation into initially inexplicable 
 harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very 
 interesting. Jacqui
  
 QC Lab: The Electric Harness Acid Test
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[SWR] Fwd: [PBSS] Climbing gear damage

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Geary Schindel in San Antonio posted the following to PBSS  TX Cavers but is 
not on the SWR remailer. Interesting… Jacqui

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] [SWR] Climbing gear damage
 Date: June 13, 2013 8:09:56 AM CDT
 To: 'Jacqueline Thomas' jlrtho...@verizon.net, p...@caver.net 
 Texascavers@texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 Nice article and evaluation.
  
 I know that some folks think I’m paranoid (which may be true) but I’ve always 
 carried my ropes and vertical gear in protective bags. The possibility of 
 damage to ropes and vertical gear thrown in the back of pickup trucks is much 
 too great. Reminds me of a trip I was supposed to go on when I was in 
 college. A bunch of friends put together a trip to do the big pits in Mexico 
 over Christmas. I really couldn’t afford to go and had to cancel.  However, 
 my friends went. The group bought a long rope which they thought was too big 
 to place in a pack so they stuffed it loose in the back of the van. They did 
 El Sotano and everyone climbed in and out with no problem.
  
 They then went over to Golondrinas. Two folks rappelled in with no problems. 
 The third person rappelled in and the rope sheath separated and jammed into 
 the rack, about 100 feet over the lip. So, here he was dangling about 900 
 feet off the floor of the cave with the rope starting to part. He didn’t want 
 to place his safety ascender on the rope as that was where the rope sheath 
 separated. The folks up top lowered down the tail of the rope and he was able 
 to change over and ascend out of the pit.
  
 The top crew than pulled up the rope, threw down some notes asking what the 
 two guys on the bottom wanted to do. The choices were, wait about a week in 
 the bottom of the pit while the cavers hiked a day out to the road, drove 
 back to the US to get another rope and to return.
  
 Second option was to lower the bad portion of the rope into the pit and use 
 the end that was in the bottom to anchor the rope and let the cavers on 
 bottom climb out. That is what the cavers decided to do. They climbed out 
 without incident.
  
 A government chemist on the trip took the damaged part of the rope back to 
 his lab and did some tests and found the rope had been exposed to battery 
 acid. The owner of the van had said that he had carried a car battery in the 
 back of the van about a month before and that it must have leaked.
  
 Tough lesson learned.
  
 Geary
  
 From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
 Jacqueline Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:37 PM
 To: p...@caver.net; Southwest Region Region; Texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [SWR] Climbing gear damage
  
 Below is a link to a Black Diamond investigation into initially inexplicable 
 harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very 
 interesting. Jacqui
  
 QC Lab: The Electric Harness Acid Test
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[SWR] Climbing gear damage

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Below is a link to a Black Diamond investigation into initially inexplicable 
harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very interesting. 
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harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very interesting. 
Jacqui

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[Jacqueline Thomas]

Below is a link to a Black Diamond investigation into initially inexplicable 
harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very interesting. 
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[PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 

The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
there's still time to practice your skills. 

I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at Ess 
Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
key.

And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?

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Re: [PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Darned right you work too much…
I never knew if we had to ask anyone or not--thanks for clearing that up. I 
have a Texas Caver bat sticker (one of the discontinued kind) so I'm cool. 
And I can make it through a 2x2 keyhole. I think. I sure do appreciate that you 
stop by now and again and check.

Sure wish you could join us. Jacqui

On May 22, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Michael Gray wrote:

 Jacqui,
 All the times before we did not need to tell anyone we were staying at Ess.
 My original contact said we could go anytime and I told him if he sees a bat 
 sticker
 on any vehicle he would know it was the PBSS and he was fine with that.
 If the rancher wants to go stop at the trailer and tell him. As for a key 
 someone
 provided a two by two key in the gate for us but if your a larger size caver 
 you
 might need a regular key. I was at Ess last week on my way back to Austin and
 someone took a chop saw to the gate. To stop this the gate will need to be 
 completely
 rebuilt with solid bars inside the pipe or filled with concrete or something. 
 I'm still
 open for any thoughts on this. Sill will not make this trip, like Lori said I 
 work too much.
 Y'all have fun,
 Mike
  
 
 From: Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
 To: p...@caver.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:36 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Abyss Trip
 
 We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 
 
 The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
 there's still time to practice your skills. 
 
 I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at 
 Ess Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
 wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
 key.
 
 And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?
 
 Jacqui
 
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[PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 

The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
there's still time to practice your skills. 

I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at Ess 
Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
key.

And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?

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Re: [PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Darned right you work too much…
I never knew if we had to ask anyone or not--thanks for clearing that up. I 
have a Texas Caver bat sticker (one of the discontinued kind) so I'm cool. 
And I can make it through a 2x2 keyhole. I think. I sure do appreciate that you 
stop by now and again and check.

Sure wish you could join us. Jacqui

On May 22, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Michael Gray wrote:

 Jacqui,
 All the times before we did not need to tell anyone we were staying at Ess.
 My original contact said we could go anytime and I told him if he sees a bat 
 sticker
 on any vehicle he would know it was the PBSS and he was fine with that.
 If the rancher wants to go stop at the trailer and tell him. As for a key 
 someone
 provided a two by two key in the gate for us but if your a larger size caver 
 you
 might need a regular key. I was at Ess last week on my way back to Austin and
 someone took a chop saw to the gate. To stop this the gate will need to be 
 completely
 rebuilt with solid bars inside the pipe or filled with concrete or something. 
 I'm still
 open for any thoughts on this. Sill will not make this trip, like Lori said I 
 work too much.
 Y'all have fun,
 Mike
  
 
 From: Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
 To: p...@caver.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:36 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Abyss Trip
 
 We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 
 
 The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
 there's still time to practice your skills. 
 
 I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at 
 Ess Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
 wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
 key.
 
 And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?
 
 Jacqui
 
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[PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 

The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
there's still time to practice your skills. 

I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at Ess 
Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
key.

And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?

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Re: [PBSS] Abyss Trip

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Darned right you work too much…
I never knew if we had to ask anyone or not--thanks for clearing that up. I 
have a Texas Caver bat sticker (one of the discontinued kind) so I'm cool. 
And I can make it through a 2x2 keyhole. I think. I sure do appreciate that you 
stop by now and again and check.

Sure wish you could join us. Jacqui

On May 22, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Michael Gray wrote:

 Jacqui,
 All the times before we did not need to tell anyone we were staying at Ess.
 My original contact said we could go anytime and I told him if he sees a bat 
 sticker
 on any vehicle he would know it was the PBSS and he was fine with that.
 If the rancher wants to go stop at the trailer and tell him. As for a key 
 someone
 provided a two by two key in the gate for us but if your a larger size caver 
 you
 might need a regular key. I was at Ess last week on my way back to Austin and
 someone took a chop saw to the gate. To stop this the gate will need to be 
 completely
 rebuilt with solid bars inside the pipe or filled with concrete or something. 
 I'm still
 open for any thoughts on this. Sill will not make this trip, like Lori said I 
 work too much.
 Y'all have fun,
 Mike
  
 
 From: Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
 To: p...@caver.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:36 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Abyss Trip
 
 We are on for June first (Saturday) for Abyss. 
 
 The almost 100-foot entrance drop requires competence with vertical gear and 
 there's still time to practice your skills. 
 
 I have never been the person to arrange for visiting (and overnighting) at 
 Ess Cave--will someone please do that? I know the man who lives down the road 
 wanted to know when we will be there so he can join us. I also do not have a 
 key.
 
 And, I'd like a head count for Abyss. Who plans to spend Friday night at Ess?
 
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Re: [SWR] BLM honors cave study volunteer

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Thanks for posting the link--Nice story and a well-deserved honor! Jacqui


On May 15, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Linda Starr wrote:

 What a splendid report by the Ruidoso News. Congratulations to Jim for a 
 well-deserved award.  I enjoyed the comment on Jim's winning smile - so true!
 Linda Starr
 
 
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
 Jim Cox honored by BLM:  (Ruidoso News)
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ak4r8xq
 
 Thank you, Jim, for all you've done!
 
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Re: [SWR] BLM honors cave study volunteer

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Thanks for posting the link--Nice story and a well-deserved honor! Jacqui


On May 15, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Linda Starr wrote:

 What a splendid report by the Ruidoso News. Congratulations to Jim for a 
 well-deserved award.  I enjoyed the comment on Jim's winning smile - so true!
 Linda Starr
 
 
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
 Jim Cox honored by BLM:  (Ruidoso News)
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ak4r8xq
 
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Re: [SWR] BLM honors cave study volunteer

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Thanks for posting the link--Nice story and a well-deserved honor! Jacqui


On May 15, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Linda Starr wrote:

 What a splendid report by the Ruidoso News. Congratulations to Jim for a 
 well-deserved award.  I enjoyed the comment on Jim's winning smile - so true!
 Linda Starr
 
 
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
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 http://tinyurl.com/ak4r8xq
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Florida sinkhole article

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Unfortunately, one can only read this article if s/he is a subscriber. Too, 
bad, because the teaser is pretty interesting… Jacqui

On Mar 16, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Mixon Bill wrote:

 I've just read that timely article about Florida sinkholes in the 18 March 
 New Yorker. Besides being a well-written (of course) summary of Florida's 
 karst geology, the  origin of its sinkholes, 

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Re: [Texascavers] Florida sinkhole article

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Unfortunately, one can only read this article if s/he is a subscriber. Too, 
bad, because the teaser is pretty interesting… Jacqui

On Mar 16, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Mixon Bill wrote:

 I've just read that timely article about Florida sinkholes in the 18 March 
 New Yorker. Besides being a well-written (of course) summary of Florida's 
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Re: [Texascavers] Florida sinkhole article

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Unfortunately, one can only read this article if s/he is a subscriber. Too, 
bad, because the teaser is pretty interesting… Jacqui

On Mar 16, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Mixon Bill wrote:

 I've just read that timely article about Florida sinkholes in the 18 March 
 New Yorker. Besides being a well-written (of course) summary of Florida's 
 karst geology, the  origin of its sinkholes, 

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Re: [PBSS] Feb 22

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I also have plans to be out of town that weekend--my father-in-law is being 
honored at the Chamber of Commerce banquet in Post for 20 years on their Soil 
and Water Conservation Board. Huge big deal and I'm sorry I cannot be two 
places at once! 

Lori, we WILL see one another again one of these days…

Jacqui

On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:52 PM, MATTHEW ORMSBY wrote:

 I, like Bill have plans that weekend. Unfortunately I've had them for a long 
 time, I'm running a volleyball tournament in the morning and chaperoning a 
 prom for youth in the evening. That being said and as I've said before I do 
 not need to be there for a trip to happen. I think it would be wonderful if a 
 team could get together and fix the gate. The quickest fix would be to get a 
 pipe a bit larger in diameter and longer than the section cut out and slide 
 it onto both ends that have been cut and then weld it in place. Those at the 
 meeting tonight will see what I mean. An Abyss trip usually can't happen 
 until after turkey hunting season, so whenever that is, around the first of 
 June. 
 
 I've requested permits to CCNP caves the following weekend and have a few 
 openings.
 
 Matthew 
 
 From: klowe...@suddenlink.net
 To: halesl...@yahoo.com; matthew.orm...@usoncology.com; p...@caver.net
 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:31:47 -0600
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
 
 The weekend of the 22nd would be a great weekend, at the moment I have no 
 plans. Hurry and make some so they can trump any other plans.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Lori Hales
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:10 PM
 To: Ormsby, Matthew A ; p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 Matthew:
 I am still trying to contact Mike Gray regarding the possible need for 
 repairs to ESS cave (if any). I thought we might go down the weekend of the 
 22nd and see what all we  might need. I'm not in shape for a long vertical 
 right now, so if you guys do Abyss, take me
 some photos.
  
 Later,
 Lori
  
 P.S.:
 I'm pretty sure I'm a couple years behind in my dues by now; let me know the 
 treasurer and mailing address and I'll send a check.
  
 Lori
  
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:15 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 All,
 The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday  Feb 
 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really paying 
 attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, Texas. Murray's 
 is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back room. Come 
 early  have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00
 
 We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving trip. 
 I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in viewing them.
  
 Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
 Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui Thomas 
 jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray 
 patrickray...@yahoo.com
 
 PBSS web page:
 http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss .html
 The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
 chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on 
 January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated 
 grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the 
 Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the 
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Re: [PBSS] Feb 22

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I also have plans to be out of town that weekend--my father-in-law is being 
honored at the Chamber of Commerce banquet in Post for 20 years on their Soil 
and Water Conservation Board. Huge big deal and I'm sorry I cannot be two 
places at once! 

Lori, we WILL see one another again one of these days…

Jacqui

On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:52 PM, MATTHEW ORMSBY wrote:

 I, like Bill have plans that weekend. Unfortunately I've had them for a long 
 time, I'm running a volleyball tournament in the morning and chaperoning a 
 prom for youth in the evening. That being said and as I've said before I do 
 not need to be there for a trip to happen. I think it would be wonderful if a 
 team could get together and fix the gate. The quickest fix would be to get a 
 pipe a bit larger in diameter and longer than the section cut out and slide 
 it onto both ends that have been cut and then weld it in place. Those at the 
 meeting tonight will see what I mean. An Abyss trip usually can't happen 
 until after turkey hunting season, so whenever that is, around the first of 
 June. 
 
 I've requested permits to CCNP caves the following weekend and have a few 
 openings.
 
 Matthew 
 
 From: klowe...@suddenlink.net
 To: halesl...@yahoo.com; matthew.orm...@usoncology.com; p...@caver.net
 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:31:47 -0600
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
 
 The weekend of the 22nd would be a great weekend, at the moment I have no 
 plans. Hurry and make some so they can trump any other plans.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Lori Hales
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:10 PM
 To: Ormsby, Matthew A ; p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 Matthew:
 I am still trying to contact Mike Gray regarding the possible need for 
 repairs to ESS cave (if any). I thought we might go down the weekend of the 
 22nd and see what all we  might need. I'm not in shape for a long vertical 
 right now, so if you guys do Abyss, take me
 some photos.
  
 Later,
 Lori
  
 P.S.:
 I'm pretty sure I'm a couple years behind in my dues by now; let me know the 
 treasurer and mailing address and I'll send a check.
  
 Lori
  
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A matthew.orm...@usoncology.com
 To: p...@caver.net; s...@caver.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:15 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 All,
 The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday  Feb 
 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really paying 
 attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, Texas. Murray's 
 is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back room. Come 
 early  have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00
 
 We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving trip. 
 I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in viewing them.
  
 Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
 Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui Thomas 
 jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray 
 patrickray...@yahoo.com
 
 PBSS web page:
 http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss .html
 The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
 chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on 
 January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated 
 grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the 
 Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the 
 cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.
  
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 p...@caver.net
 http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
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Re: [PBSS] Feb 22

[Jacqueline Thomas]

I also have plans to be out of town that weekend--my father-in-law is being 
honored at the Chamber of Commerce banquet in Post for 20 years on their Soil 
and Water Conservation Board. Huge big deal and I'm sorry I cannot be two 
places at once! 

Lori, we WILL see one another again one of these days…

Jacqui

On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:52 PM, MATTHEW ORMSBY wrote:

 I, like Bill have plans that weekend. Unfortunately I've had them for a long 
 time, I'm running a volleyball tournament in the morning and chaperoning a 
 prom for youth in the evening. That being said and as I've said before I do 
 not need to be there for a trip to happen. I think it would be wonderful if a 
 team could get together and fix the gate. The quickest fix would be to get a 
 pipe a bit larger in diameter and longer than the section cut out and slide 
 it onto both ends that have been cut and then weld it in place. Those at the 
 meeting tonight will see what I mean. An Abyss trip usually can't happen 
 until after turkey hunting season, so whenever that is, around the first of 
 June. 
 
 I've requested permits to CCNP caves the following weekend and have a few 
 openings.
 
 Matthew 
 
 From: klowe...@suddenlink.net
 To: halesl...@yahoo.com; matthew.orm...@usoncology.com; p...@caver.net
 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:31:47 -0600
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
 
 The weekend of the 22nd would be a great weekend, at the moment I have no 
 plans. Hurry and make some so they can trump any other plans.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Lori Hales
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:10 PM
 To: Ormsby, Matthew A ; p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: Re: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 Matthew:
 I am still trying to contact Mike Gray regarding the possible need for 
 repairs to ESS cave (if any). I thought we might go down the weekend of the 
 22nd and see what all we  might need. I'm not in shape for a long vertical 
 right now, so if you guys do Abyss, take me
 some photos.
  
 Later,
 Lori
  
 P.S.:
 I'm pretty sure I'm a couple years behind in my dues by now; let me know the 
 treasurer and mailing address and I'll send a check.
  
 Lori
  
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A matthew.orm...@usoncology.com
 To: p...@caver.net; s...@caver.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:15 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] Feb Meeting of PBSS
  
 All,
 The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday  Feb 
 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really paying 
 attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, Texas. Murray's 
 is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back room. Come 
 early  have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00
 
 We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving trip. 
 I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in viewing them.
  
 Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
 Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui Thomas 
 jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray 
 patrickray...@yahoo.com
 
 PBSS web page:
 http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss .html
 The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
 chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on 
 January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated 
 grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the 
 Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the 
 cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.
  
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[PBSS] Fwd: [NSSwest] FW: Join us for The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves [1 Attachment]

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Caves on Easter Island? Yikes! Jacqui


 
 Please remove text above this line.
 
 
   
 
 The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Join us for a Webinar on January 10
 
  Space is limited Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
 https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/353722487
 This presentation will discuss our current findings, interpretations, and 
 future directions for cave research and conservation on “Te Pito o Te Henua” 
 (or Navel of the World). 
 Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the biology and 
 archaeology of Rapanui caves. 
 The natural and cultural history of caves has received little attention on 
 Easter Island (known to Polynesians as “Rapa Nui”).  Given the long history 
 of forest conversion and other intensive human uses, the current landscape is 
 vastly different from what the first Polynesian settlers observed upon 
 arrival circa 1200 CE.  
  
 Today, less than four percent of the over 400 known arthropod species are 
 either endemic or colonized the island without man’s assistance; however, our 
 recent discoveries of several new arthropod species suggest some of these 
 organisms may be relicts of ancient native ecosystems.  Although early 
 explorers and missionaries encouraged the Rapanui people to search for and 
 remove artifacts from their caves (many are curated in Museo Antropológico 
 Padre Sebastián Englert), vestiges of extensive human use prior to European 
 contact remain. Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the 
 biology and archaeology of Rapanui caves.
  
 Title:The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013
 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM CST (Which is 9PM EST/ 7PM MST/ 6PM PST) Please check 
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 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing 
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   Hosted by Stanislaus Grotto
 
 
 July 21-28, 2013
   16th International Congress of Speleology
   Brno, Czech Republic
   www.speleo2013.com
 
 
 August 5-9, 2013
   NSS National Convention - Shippensburg, PA
   www.nss2013.com
 
 
 August 30-September 2, 2013
   Northwestern and Western Regional Weekend
   Trailhead Bed and Breakfast. Trout Lake, Washington
   Hosted by Willamette Valley Grotto
 
 
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[PBSS] Fwd: [NSSwest] FW: Join us for The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves [1 Attachment]

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Caves on Easter Island? Yikes! Jacqui


 
 Please remove text above this line.
 
 
   
 
 The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Join us for a Webinar on January 10
 
  Space is limited Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
 https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/353722487
 This presentation will discuss our current findings, interpretations, and 
 future directions for cave research and conservation on “Te Pito o Te Henua” 
 (or Navel of the World). 
 Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the biology and 
 archaeology of Rapanui caves. 
 The natural and cultural history of caves has received little attention on 
 Easter Island (known to Polynesians as “Rapa Nui”).  Given the long history 
 of forest conversion and other intensive human uses, the current landscape is 
 vastly different from what the first Polynesian settlers observed upon 
 arrival circa 1200 CE.  
  
 Today, less than four percent of the over 400 known arthropod species are 
 either endemic or colonized the island without man’s assistance; however, our 
 recent discoveries of several new arthropod species suggest some of these 
 organisms may be relicts of ancient native ecosystems.  Although early 
 explorers and missionaries encouraged the Rapanui people to search for and 
 remove artifacts from their caves (many are curated in Museo Antropológico 
 Padre Sebastián Englert), vestiges of extensive human use prior to European 
 contact remain. Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the 
 biology and archaeology of Rapanui caves.
  
 Title:The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013
 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM CST (Which is 9PM EST/ 7PM MST/ 6PM PST) Please check 
 your time zone
 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing 
 information about joining the Webinar.
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   Speleo-Ed Seminar - Millerton Lakes, Prather, CA
   Hosted by Stanislaus Grotto
 
 
 July 21-28, 2013
   16th International Congress of Speleology
   Brno, Czech Republic
   www.speleo2013.com
 
 
 August 5-9, 2013
   NSS National Convention - Shippensburg, PA
   www.nss2013.com
 
 
 August 30-September 2, 2013
   Northwestern and Western Regional Weekend
   Trailhead Bed and Breakfast. Trout Lake, Washington
   Hosted by Willamette Valley Grotto
 
 
 July, 2016
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[PBSS] Fwd: [NSSwest] FW: Join us for The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves [1 Attachment]

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Caves on Easter Island? Yikes! Jacqui


 
 Please remove text above this line.
 
 
   
 
 The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Join us for a Webinar on January 10
 
  Space is limited Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
 https://www4.gotomeeting.com/register/353722487
 This presentation will discuss our current findings, interpretations, and 
 future directions for cave research and conservation on “Te Pito o Te Henua” 
 (or Navel of the World). 
 Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the biology and 
 archaeology of Rapanui caves. 
 The natural and cultural history of caves has received little attention on 
 Easter Island (known to Polynesians as “Rapa Nui”).  Given the long history 
 of forest conversion and other intensive human uses, the current landscape is 
 vastly different from what the first Polynesian settlers observed upon 
 arrival circa 1200 CE.  
  
 Today, less than four percent of the over 400 known arthropod species are 
 either endemic or colonized the island without man’s assistance; however, our 
 recent discoveries of several new arthropod species suggest some of these 
 organisms may be relicts of ancient native ecosystems.  Although early 
 explorers and missionaries encouraged the Rapanui people to search for and 
 remove artifacts from their caves (many are curated in Museo Antropológico 
 Padre Sebastián Englert), vestiges of extensive human use prior to European 
 contact remain. Our efforts represent the first study to investigate both the 
 biology and archaeology of Rapanui caves.
  
 Title:The Mysteries of Easter Island Caves
 Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013
 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM CST (Which is 9PM EST/ 7PM MST/ 6PM PST) Please check 
 your time zone
 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing 
 information about joining the Webinar.
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   Hosted by San Francisco Bay Chapter
   Menlo Park - All cavers welcome!
 
 
 May 17-18-19, 2013  (tentative dates)
   Speleo-Ed Seminar - Millerton Lakes, Prather, CA
   Hosted by Stanislaus Grotto
 
 
 July 21-28, 2013
   16th International Congress of Speleology
   Brno, Czech Republic
   www.speleo2013.com
 
 
 August 5-9, 2013
   NSS National Convention - Shippensburg, PA
   www.nss2013.com
 
 
 August 30-September 2, 2013
   Northwestern and Western Regional Weekend
   Trailhead Bed and Breakfast. Trout Lake, Washington
   Hosted by Willamette Valley Grotto
 
 
 July, 2016
   75th Anniversary - National Speleological Society
   NSS Annual Convention - Ely, Nevada!
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Re: [PBSS] December Meeting

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and 
years. J.

On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote:

 Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas.  Lets plan 
 a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch 
 for the last weekend in Febuary.  Which coincidentally is the next available 
 weekend off at this moment.  We could even bring gifts.
  
 Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else.
  
 Y’all have a Merry Christmas.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM
 To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting
  
 Cavers,
  
 There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work 
 out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We 
 are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have 
 not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas 
 party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail.
  
 Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow.
  
 Have a great week.
  
 Matthew Ormsby
 PBSS President
 /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are 
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Re: [PBSS] December Meeting

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and 
years. J.

On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote:

 Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas.  Lets plan 
 a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch 
 for the last weekend in Febuary.  Which coincidentally is the next available 
 weekend off at this moment.  We could even bring gifts.
  
 Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else.
  
 Y’all have a Merry Christmas.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM
 To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting
  
 Cavers,
  
 There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work 
 out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We 
 are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have 
 not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas 
 party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail.
  
 Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow.
  
 Have a great week.
  
 Matthew Ormsby
 PBSS President
 /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are 
 confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) 
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Re: [PBSS] December Meeting

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and 
years. J.

On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote:

 Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas.  Lets plan 
 a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch 
 for the last weekend in Febuary.  Which coincidentally is the next available 
 weekend off at this moment.  We could even bring gifts.
  
 Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else.
  
 Y’all have a Merry Christmas.
  
 Kerry
  
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM
 To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net
 Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting
  
 Cavers,
  
 There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work 
 out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We 
 are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have 
 not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas 
 party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail.
  
 Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow.
  
 Have a great week.
  
 Matthew Ormsby
 PBSS President
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Re: [PBSS] December Meeting

[Jacqueline Thomas]

All,
Our Fire Department Christmas Party is the 15th. I for sure can't make the 
meeting, though. I miss all you people.

I'd sure like to see a presentation, Matthew, since PBSS has done some good 
caving this past year!

Jacqui



On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:

 I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening
 Sorry,
  Bill
 - Original Message -
 From: Ormsby, Matthew A
 To: p...@caver.net
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM
 Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting
 
 Cavers,
  
 I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am 
 willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if 
 anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host 
 the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough 
 interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on 
 Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I 
 don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and 
 availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by 
 Monday.
  
 Matthew
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