Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
For any of you who are really interested in the Mayan calendar, the best book I've ever read on the subject is Maya Cosmogenisis 2012 by John Major Jenkins. Jenkins is an Archeo astronomer, not some new age channeler. He lays out the history of the Maya and how they calculated and recalculated the calendar to make it one of the most accurate. It's a very dense book but a great read especially for those of you who go caving in Central America regularly and want to have a deeper appreciation of the Maya culture. Mike Burrell On May 23, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Brian Riordan wrote: The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider > wrote: I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message----- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
For any of you who are really interested in the Mayan calendar, the best book I've ever read on the subject is Maya Cosmogenisis 2012 by John Major Jenkins. Jenkins is an Archeo astronomer, not some new age channeler. He lays out the history of the Maya and how they calculated and recalculated the calendar to make it one of the most accurate. It's a very dense book but a great read especially for those of you who go caving in Central America regularly and want to have a deeper appreciation of the Maya culture. Mike Burrell On May 23, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Brian Riordan wrote: The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider > wrote: I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message----- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
For any of you who are really interested in the Mayan calendar, the best book I've ever read on the subject is Maya Cosmogenisis 2012 by John Major Jenkins. Jenkins is an Archeo astronomer, not some new age channeler. He lays out the history of the Maya and how they calculated and recalculated the calendar to make it one of the most accurate. It's a very dense book but a great read especially for those of you who go caving in Central America regularly and want to have a deeper appreciation of the Maya culture. Mike Burrell On May 23, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Brian Riordan wrote: The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider > wrote: I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message----- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider wrote: > I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, > 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the > end of a time or era. > That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply > the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is > nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the > beginning of a new era. > > John > > - Original Message - > *From:* Rod Goke > *To:* Texas Cavers > *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > > I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained > an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record > that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's > when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it > is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, > leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, > however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the > Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" > date will be November 6, 2012. > . . . > (election day) ;-) > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Louise Power > Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM > To: Texas Cavers > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec > calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. > She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy > who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? > OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! > > > - Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: > texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider wrote: > I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, > 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the > end of a time or era. > That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply > the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is > nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the > beginning of a new era. > > John > > - Original Message - > *From:* Rod Goke > *To:* Texas Cavers > *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > > I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained > an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record > that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's > when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it > is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, > leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, > however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the > Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" > date will be November 6, 2012. > . . . > (election day) ;-) > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Louise Power > Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM > To: Texas Cavers > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec > calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. > She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy > who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? > OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! > > > - Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: > texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
The current Gregorian calendar ends December 31st 2011... But we'll just print a new one for 2012. I presume the Aztecs got tired of carving new stone calendars every solar cycle, so they made an arbitrarily long one. I think historians could argue that the 'end times' came for the Aztecs long before 2012... -B On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John.Schneider wrote: > I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, > 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the > end of a time or era. > That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply > the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is > nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the > beginning of a new era. > > John > > - Original Message - > *From:* Rod Goke > *To:* Texas Cavers > *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > > I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained > an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record > that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's > when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it > is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, > leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, > however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the > Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" > date will be November 6, 2012. > . . . > (election day) ;-) > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Louise Power > Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM > To: Texas Cavers > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future > > But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec > calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. > She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy > who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? > OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! > > > - Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: > texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I believe you are right that it is the Mayan calendar that ends Dec 21, 2012. It DOES NOT however predict the "end of the world", but simply the end of a time or era. That calendar has 13,000 year cycle or times and the above date is simply the end of the most recent era. Since this was either cycle 4 or 5 there is nothing in the calendar that excludes that 22 Dec 2012 is just being the beginning of a new era. John - Original Message - From: Rod Goke To: Texas Cavers Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I agree that interpreting the end of the Maya calendar cycle as an "end of the world" prediction should be taken only about as seriously as the joke about November 6, 2012, or the rapture predictions for May 21, 2011.As for the usage of the words "Maya" vs. "Mayan", my understanding is that you are technically correct, and I've heard that explanation before. In actual common usage, however, both "Maya calendar" and "Mayan calendar" are used very frequently, almost interchangeably, as can easily be verified in a few minutes with an Internet search engine. Use of "Mayan" as an adjective has become so common, even in mainstream media and publications, that I can see how people might legitimately argue about whether this is a common mistake or whether it is a case of academicians being slow to adapt to the reality of evolving language. Dictionaries tend to be lagging (not leading) indicators of current language usage. Does anyone know of a reason to prefer "Maya" over "Mayan" for use as an adjective, other than the fact that academicians prefer this convention? Otherwise, I see little reason to prefer one convention over the other on this issue and am content to follow whichever one wins out in actual practice. Thus far, it appears to me that both are acceptable in actual modern usage.Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 22, 2011 10:25 PMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.)Mark MintonAt 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote:>I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever >contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be >revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their >viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, >finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar >that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to >interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, >some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan >calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the >world" date will be November 6, 2012.>. . .>(election day) ;-)>>Rod>>-Original Message->From: Louise Power>Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM>To: Texas Cavers>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future>>But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to >the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed >to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I >believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a >defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for >my poor old brain to comprehend!Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I agree that interpreting the end of the Maya calendar cycle as an "end of the world" prediction should be taken only about as seriously as the joke about November 6, 2012, or the rapture predictions for May 21, 2011.As for the usage of the words "Maya" vs. "Mayan", my understanding is that you are technically correct, and I've heard that explanation before. In actual common usage, however, both "Maya calendar" and "Mayan calendar" are used very frequently, almost interchangeably, as can easily be verified in a few minutes with an Internet search engine. Use of "Mayan" as an adjective has become so common, even in mainstream media and publications, that I can see how people might legitimately argue about whether this is a common mistake or whether it is a case of academicians being slow to adapt to the reality of evolving language. Dictionaries tend to be lagging (not leading) indicators of current language usage. Does anyone know of a reason to prefer "Maya" over "Mayan" for use as an adjective, other than the fact that academicians prefer this convention? Otherwise, I see little reason to prefer one convention over the other on this issue and am content to follow whichever one wins out in actual practice. Thus far, it appears to me that both are acceptable in actual modern usage.Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 22, 2011 10:25 PMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.)Mark MintonAt 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote:>I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever >contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be >revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their >viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, >finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar >that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to >interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, >some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan >calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the >world" date will be November 6, 2012.>. . .>(election day) ;-)>>Rod>>-Original Message->From: Louise Power>Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM>To: Texas Cavers>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future>>But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to >the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed >to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I >believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a >defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for >my poor old brain to comprehend!Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I agree that interpreting the end of the Maya calendar cycle as an "end of the world" prediction should be taken only about as seriously as the joke about November 6, 2012, or the rapture predictions for May 21, 2011.As for the usage of the words "Maya" vs. "Mayan", my understanding is that you are technically correct, and I've heard that explanation before. In actual common usage, however, both "Maya calendar" and "Mayan calendar" are used very frequently, almost interchangeably, as can easily be verified in a few minutes with an Internet search engine. Use of "Mayan" as an adjective has become so common, even in mainstream media and publications, that I can see how people might legitimately argue about whether this is a common mistake or whether it is a case of academicians being slow to adapt to the reality of evolving language. Dictionaries tend to be lagging (not leading) indicators of current language usage. Does anyone know of a reason to prefer "Maya" over "Mayan" for use as an adjective, other than the fact that academicians prefer this convention? Otherwise, I see little reason to prefer one convention over the other on this issue and am content to follow whichever one wins out in actual practice. Thus far, it appears to me that both are acceptable in actual modern usage.Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: May 22, 2011 10:25 PMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.)Mark MintonAt 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote:>I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever >contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be >revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their >viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, >finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar >that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to >interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, >some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan >calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the >world" date will be November 6, 2012.>. . .>(election day) ;-)>>Rod>>-Original Message->From: Louise Power>Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM>To: Texas Cavers>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future>>But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to >the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed >to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I >believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a >defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for >my poor old brain to comprehend!Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.) Mark Minton At 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote: I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.) Mark Minton At 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote: I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
As I understand it, 2012 does not mark the end of the world according to Maya mythology. It is simply the end of a calendar cycle. After that date a new calendar cycle would begin. All talk of apocalypse is modern mythology, not Maya. (In modern usage, the word Mayan is used solely in reference to the language. In all other cases Maya is used as both noun and adjective.) Mark Minton At 10:34 PM 5/22/2011, Rod Goke wrote: I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012. . . . (election day) ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012.. . .(election day) ;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the futureBut wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012.. . .(election day) ;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the futureBut wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
I'm not very familiar with the Aztec calendar, but if it ever contained an "end of the world" prediction, it probably had to be revised to record that happening August 13, 1521 (from their viewpoint, anyway, since that's when their capital, Tenochtitlan, finally fell to Cortes). I believe that it is the Mayan calendar that many people claim will end December 21, 2012, leading some to interpret this as a predicted "end of the world" date. Now, however, some people are claiming that this interpretation of the Mayan calendar is off by several weeks and that the real "end of the world" date will be November 6, 2012.. . .(election day) ;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Louise Power Sent: May 22, 2011 7:28 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the futureBut wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:56:56 -0500 From: rod.g...@earthlink.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!" But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other. ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: bmorgan...@aol.com Sent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the future In retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon! God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:56:56 -0500 From: rod.g...@earthlink.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!" But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other. ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: bmorgan...@aol.com Sent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the future In retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon! God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
But wait, doesn't the end of the world come in 2012 (according to the Aztec calendar)? My friend Jo says yesterday was just supposed to be the rapture. She says the EOW comes in October. Who should I believe...the crazy old guy who got it wrong the first time; a defunct native group; or my best friend? OMG, it's just too much for my poor old brain to comprehend! List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:56:56 -0500 From: rod.g...@earthlink.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!" But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other. ;-) Rod -Original Message- From: bmorgan...@aol.com Sent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the future In retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon! God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!"But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: bmorgan...@aol.comSent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the futureIn retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon!God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!"But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: bmorgan...@aol.comSent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the futureIn retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon!God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future
God's impersonator (from 2035 or whenever) said: "... that day is coming soon!"But wasn't "that day" supposed to have been yesterday, May 21? Why was no one raptured? Oh no! Could it be that we all have been judged unworthy and have been left here to suffer a most dreaded fate, namely having to continue putting up with all those other unworthy people, even the ones who post OT BS to Texascavers! Guess we'll just have to find a way to tolerate each other.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: bmorgan...@aol.comSent: May 22, 2011 9:43 AMTo: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future Re: A warning from the futureIn retrospect I realize it was all a big mistake. I send down one of my ten billion only begotten sons only this particular one is a paranoid with a big mouth and everybody takes him seriously. His delusions of grandeur resonate with ignorant desert tribesmen whose idea of fun is to fight over camels. Then, about sixty years later after everybody has forgotten exactly what he says they collect the stories and they become a best seller. Shortly thereafter Roman priests and pederasts get involved, then another desert dwelling lunatic named Mo comes up with a different version that is almost exactly the same but worse. I did everything I could to dissuade people from believing this gibberish. I sent war, plague, and famine to everybody who bought the bull but it only reinforced their faith. It occurred to me to hide the original set of evil fairy tales so I sent a little shepherd boy to collect the scattered texts and hide them in a cave. That worked fairly well until cavers came along. Who could have imagined that in the late twentieth and early twenty first centuries people would be so bored they would have nothing better to do than to crawl into holes in the ground? So it came to pass that not too long ago a Bedouin caver discovered some of the hidden scrolls not far from the aptly named Dead sea in the accursed land of Yidzrael. The rotting fragments made no sense, and that should have put the matter to rest, but no! Ask yourself, has peace come to the middle east? So I have finally had it. There are other yet undiscovered scrolls awaiting discovery and misinterpretation and I simply will not allow it. Henceforth all caving is banned along with all direct discussion thereof. No more trip reports, only off topic apocrypha will be allowed. As to cavers themselves I condemn them to old age and death. The use of electronic media is part of my plan. No more scrolls in caves that might be found later, just pointless babbling that will disappear from earth once the lights go out. As you have been repeatedly warned, that day is coming soon!God - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
With all due respect - if David did not write the below, I find it to be completely inappropriate. Best of wishes to all of those having fun at NaturFest. Leslie Bell --- On Fri, 5/20/11, David Locklear 2035 wrote: From: David Locklear 2035 Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 5:00 PM David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David LocklearCEO of Natufest International,A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
With all due respect - if David did not write the below, I find it to be completely inappropriate. Best of wishes to all of those having fun at NaturFest. Leslie Bell --- On Fri, 5/20/11, David Locklear 2035 wrote: From: David Locklear 2035 Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 5:00 PM David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David LocklearCEO of Natufest International,A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
With all due respect - if David did not write the below, I find it to be completely inappropriate. Best of wishes to all of those having fun at NaturFest. Leslie Bell --- On Fri, 5/20/11, David Locklear 2035 wrote: From: David Locklear 2035 Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 5:00 PM David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David LocklearCEO of Natufest International,A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Amen!!! Can we trade ³David from the Future² for our present-day ³David the well-meaning but compulsive OT Spammer²? On 5/20/11 3:00 PM, "David Locklear 2035" wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart > with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in > the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I > won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a > 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant > manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I > would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, > while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did > not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching > information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent > caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave > related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film > about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just > damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise > participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If > we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving > can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and > headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. >
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Amen!!! Can we trade ³David from the Future² for our present-day ³David the well-meaning but compulsive OT Spammer²? On 5/20/11 3:00 PM, "David Locklear 2035" wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart > with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in > the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I > won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a > 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant > manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I > would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, > while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did > not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching > information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent > caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave > related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film > about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just > damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise > participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If > we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving > can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and > headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. >
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Amen!!! Can we trade ³David from the Future² for our present-day ³David the well-meaning but compulsive OT Spammer²? On 5/20/11 3:00 PM, "David Locklear 2035" wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart > with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in > the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I > won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a > 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant > manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I > would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, > while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did > not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching > information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent > caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave > related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film > about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just > damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise > participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If > we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving > can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and > headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. >
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Beautiful. Sublime, even. I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie. On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035 wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged > Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship > of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy > task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED > light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever > irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom > tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one > time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I > did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply > dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports > from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about > a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner > Herzog film about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out > just damages the community because we're running people off who might > otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible > posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, > maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these > flashlights and headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Beautiful. Sublime, even. I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie. On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035 wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged > Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship > of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy > task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED > light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever > irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom > tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one > time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I > did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply > dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports > from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about > a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner > Herzog film about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out > just damages the community because we're running people off who might > otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible > posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, > maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these > flashlights and headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
Beautiful. Sublime, even. I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie. On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035 wrote: > David, > > It's me, David, from the future. > > It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from > the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. > Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged > Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship > of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy > task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED > light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. > > You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and > shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've > encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile > enough AA batteries to do so. > > Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, > David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans > don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit > the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar > Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all > still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on > Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. > > The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the > most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was > off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, > collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came > back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my > mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever > irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom > tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one > time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I > did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. > > What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply > dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports > from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about > a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner > Herzog film about a cave. > > It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our > ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those > people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of > them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out > just damages the community because we're running people off who might > otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible > posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, > maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these > flashlights and headlamps. > > Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly > recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't > had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility > over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and > I recommend that all of you do too. > > David Locklear > CEO of Natufest International, > A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook > > P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single > when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my > old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really > excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound > effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were > considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly > on topic. > > P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
I think the strain of planning NaturFest has gotten to David and he has gone off the deep end. I know what to get him for Christmas, it is white with long sleeves and straps that buckle in the back. :( Fritz From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:24 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035<mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
I think the strain of planning NaturFest has gotten to David and he has gone off the deep end. I know what to get him for Christmas, it is white with long sleeves and straps that buckle in the back. :( Fritz From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:24 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035<mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
RE: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
I think the strain of planning NaturFest has gotten to David and he has gone off the deep end. I know what to get him for Christmas, it is white with long sleeves and straps that buckle in the back. :( Fritz From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:24 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035<mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.
meltdown, is it one or two words? - Original Message - From: David Locklear 2035 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: [Texascavers] A warning from the future. David, It's me, David, from the future. It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile enough AA batteries to do so. Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s. The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you. What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner Herzog film about a cave. It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out just damages the community because we're running people off who might otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these flashlights and headlamps. Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and I recommend that all of you do too. David Locklear CEO of Natufest International, A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly on topic. P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.
