Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for Research and Dissertation
Hi Jeremy, thanks for that response. What you say makes sense to me. Through linear and non-linear options I am trying to find a compromise. The issue is that usually (old school) examiners would look at a print out and dislike reading such a long work on a computer screen. I will start a new thread, do you know when TW5 is supposed to leave Beta? Best wishes, Philipp On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:07:36 PM UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Philipp Now, I am determined to use it for my dissertation. Not to gather my notes, etc. but actually presenting my thesis in a html file rather than printing and binding a script. The main reason is that I would like someone to read the argument as I structured it AND to be able to explore the topic of my PhD in the order they find makes most sense. I thought I could arrange tiddlers as I would have sections in a linear form in a word file but ALSO use hyperlinks, tags, different indexes etc, for people to find their way around the information themselves. Makes sense. It should be possible to produce a TiddlyWiki for interactive access while also generating an ordinary, linear HTML document consisting of those same tiddlers threaded together into a logical ordering. That way you could have your cake and eat it -- you'd be sidestepping concerns about the non-linearity of TW. I started the process of getting my supervisors and the University to see the benefits of this idea and hope that they will agree for me to be able to do this. The current problem I face is that they struggle to get their head around how this would look in the end. As I say, if they're struggling with TW as the medium for delivery, perhaps you can establish common ground by giving them a traditional hierarchical document. Would anyone be able to suggest TWs that can illustrate what I am trying to do? Is anyone aware of this having been done before? It may also be worth asking this question in the Google group for TiddlySpace, which enjoys a fair amount of academic use. Anything that you think could help me to illustrate the power of TW compared to linear presentations in word files would be beneficial as well. I'll put this topic on the list for tomorrows' TiddlyWiki Hangout #34. It would be instructive to work through some ways of achieving what you want with TW5. P.S. I have (and will have) loads more questions, where shall I ask these? (e.g. will TW cope with stuff that is usually a 150 page document?) Shall I continue in here or should I start a new thread. I am not familiar with the code of practice in this community. It's usually better to start a new topic with a subject line that will be helpful to other readers. Best wishes Jeremy Hello Tiddly Wiki folks, Just discovered Tiddly Wiki and am considering using it as a central location for research documentation for my dissertation. I've been using Google Documents, but but it feels clunky -- the various documents really don't connect very well. I've done a search through the prior posts and have seen a couple of references to folks using it for this purpose, but the demo sites are down. Does anyone have any comments or tips? thanks, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] TW5 to present PhD thesis
Hello all, I have been reading the conversations on this forum with great interest. I have considered using TiddlyWiki for all sorts of things over the last 3 years since I saw someone using it in a presentation instead of ppt. However, I have never actually used it for a project. Now, I am determined to use it for my dissertation. Not to gather my notes, sources, etc. but actually presenting my thesis in a html file rather than printing and binding a script. The main reason is that I would like someone to read the argument as I structured it AND to be able to explore the topic of my PhD in the order they find makes most sense. I thought I could arrange tiddlers (like sections in a thesis) in a linear form but ALSO use hyperlinks, tags, different indexes etc, for people to find their way around the information themselves. I started the process of getting my supervisors and the University to see the benefits of this idea and hope that they will agree for me to be able to do this. The current problem I face is that they struggle to get their head around how this would look in the end. Would anyone be able to suggest TWs that can illustrate what I am trying to do? Is anyone aware of this having been done before? Are there any good examples of TW in use that I could show to other people so they get an idea about how this will look in the end? Has TW been used as a replacement for documents of 150 pages and is it stable? When do you think TW5 will leave beta? Anything that you think could help me to illustrate the power of TW compared to linear presentations in word files would be beneficial as well. Thanks a lot in advance. Best wishes, Philipp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TW5 to present PhD thesis
150 pages of text is a piece of cake for TW5 file size to handle. I have used it to hold 100+MB of large images and it starts to run slow after about 50MB of large images, but that is because of loading the images, in part, not necessarily the filesize. I have personal TW5s with thousands of tiddlers and the only thing I see slowing down a bit is the tag editor, since I have lots and lots of tags, and it has to render them as tag pills. Even so it is not too slow. Here are a couple of TW5s you could use as examples: http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html - I use TW5 as a presentation with back and forward arrows. http://giffmex.org/giffmexnotes.htm - where I am starting to organize some of my notes. This one doesn't help you get back to home, though. I should put some kind of home button there, I guess. Dave On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:10:24 AM UTC-5, Philipp G wrote: Hello all, I have been reading the conversations on this forum with great interest. I have considered using TiddlyWiki for all sorts of things over the last 3 years since I saw someone using it in a presentation instead of ppt. However, I have never actually used it for a project. Now, I am determined to use it for my dissertation. Not to gather my notes, sources, etc. but actually presenting my thesis in a html file rather than printing and binding a script. The main reason is that I would like someone to read the argument as I structured it AND to be able to explore the topic of my PhD in the order they find makes most sense. I thought I could arrange tiddlers (like sections in a thesis) in a linear form but ALSO use hyperlinks, tags, different indexes etc, for people to find their way around the information themselves. I started the process of getting my supervisors and the University to see the benefits of this idea and hope that they will agree for me to be able to do this. The current problem I face is that they struggle to get their head around how this would look in the end. Would anyone be able to suggest TWs that can illustrate what I am trying to do? Is anyone aware of this having been done before? Are there any good examples of TW in use that I could show to other people so they get an idea about how this will look in the end? Has TW been used as a replacement for documents of 150 pages and is it stable? When do you think TW5 will leave beta? Anything that you think could help me to illustrate the power of TW compared to linear presentations in word files would be beneficial as well. Thanks a lot in advance. Best wishes, Philipp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Better home button
Hi guys, I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too. I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some point you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always work for me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the default tiddler again. Thankful for any love you give me here. Thanks, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Better home button
Hello Dave, my solution was to simply put [[Site Title|StartHere]] in SiteTitle. It isn't a button, though. UBi Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014 12:41:28 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford: Hi guys, I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too. I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some point you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always work for me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the default tiddler again. Thankful for any love you give me here. Thanks, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Better home button
Hi Dave, AFAIK my Home button works ONLY with a single tiddler or a list of tiddlers in DefaultTiddlers. It doesn't work with the later added possibility [list[$:/StoryList]] Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:41:28 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote: Hi guys, I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too. I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some point you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always work for me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the default tiddler again. Thankful for any love you give me here. Thanks, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for Research and Dissertation
Hi Philipp I will start a new thread, do you know when TW5 is supposed to leave Beta? Hopefully in the first half of 2014 Best wishes Jeremy Best wishes, Philipp On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:07:36 PM UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Philipp Now, I am determined to use it for my dissertation. Not to gather my notes, etc. but actually presenting my thesis in a html file rather than printing and binding a script. The main reason is that I would like someone to read the argument as I structured it AND to be able to explore the topic of my PhD in the order they find makes most sense. I thought I could arrange tiddlers as I would have sections in a linear form in a word file but ALSO use hyperlinks, tags, different indexes etc, for people to find their way around the information themselves. Makes sense. It should be possible to produce a TiddlyWiki for interactive access while also generating an ordinary, linear HTML document consisting of those same tiddlers threaded together into a logical ordering. That way you could have your cake and eat it -- you'd be sidestepping concerns about the non-linearity of TW. I started the process of getting my supervisors and the University to see the benefits of this idea and hope that they will agree for me to be able to do this. The current problem I face is that they struggle to get their head around how this would look in the end. As I say, if they're struggling with TW as the medium for delivery, perhaps you can establish common ground by giving them a traditional hierarchical document. Would anyone be able to suggest TWs that can illustrate what I am trying to do? Is anyone aware of this having been done before? It may also be worth asking this question in the Google group for TiddlySpace, which enjoys a fair amount of academic use. Anything that you think could help me to illustrate the power of TW compared to linear presentations in word files would be beneficial as well. I'll put this topic on the list for tomorrows' TiddlyWiki Hangout #34. It would be instructive to work through some ways of achieving what you want with TW5. P.S. I have (and will have) loads more questions, where shall I ask these? (e.g. will TW cope with stuff that is usually a 150 page document?) Shall I continue in here or should I start a new thread. I am not familiar with the code of practice in this community. It's usually better to start a new topic with a subject line that will be helpful to other readers. Best wishes Jeremy Hello Tiddly Wiki folks, Just discovered Tiddly Wiki and am considering using it as a central location for research documentation for my dissertation. I've been using Google Documents, but but it feels clunky -- the various documents really don't connect very well. I've done a search through the prior posts and have seen a couple of references to folks using it for this purpose, but the demo sites are down. Does anyone have any comments or tips? thanks, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Better home button
Hi Dave,
Otherwise:
span title=Home$link to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link
/span
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:19:44 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
Hi Dave,
AFAIK my Home button works ONLY with a single tiddler or a list of
tiddlers in DefaultTiddlers.
It doesn't work with the later added possibility
[list[$:/StoryList]]
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:41:28 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
Hi guys,
I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named
StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much
whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too.
I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some point
you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always work for
me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the default tiddler
again.
Thankful for any love you give me here.
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [tw] Re: Better home button
Hi guys thanks for your ideas. In Ton's link below, where or how do I add
the purplebutton class? The home button shows as white on white until hover
when it turns black.
span title=Home$link to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link
/span
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Ton Gerner ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dave,
Otherwise:
span title=Home$link
to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link/span
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:19:44 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
Hi Dave,
AFAIK my Home button works ONLY with a single tiddler or a list of
tiddlers in DefaultTiddlers.
It doesn't work with the later added possibility
[list[$:/StoryList]]
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:41:28 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
Hi guys,
I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named
StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much
whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too.
I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some
point you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always
work for me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the
default tiddler again.
Thankful for any love you give me here.
Thanks,
Dave
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #34 on Tuesday 11th February at 4pm GMT
The hangout is now kicking off over at: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfBajjM5OGqoF9N7rleo3kF95ZdoScHKsrUTwJ0uz68GW3NiQ Let me know if you have trouble joining, Best wishes Jeremy On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.comwrote: The next Hangout will be on Tuesday 11th February at 4pm GMT - more details here: https://plus.google.com/events/ck0jirje81cpsi87ql4ed6qqq2o Best wishes Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Footnotes [TW5]
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:38:19 AM UTC+1, Daniel Baird wrote: Naively it seems to me that when editing, the footnote content should be right there where the reference is. This means you can easily edit the note, and avoid hassles like orphaned notes when you copy/paste stuff, etc. e.g: This is my sentence with [[note1::Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]]. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. _,~'^'~._referenceList^'~._,~'^ Would give: This is my sentence with note1. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. note1: Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one. When I read this suggestion I think about external [ext[]] and image [img[]] links. Thery are missing atm and some discussion is going on. So there is some work to do anyway. eg: [footnote[note1|Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]] ... IMO there is a problem with the automatic numbering with this syntax. ... @jeremy what do you think? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Hi Luis We're unlikely to be able to make TW5 work properly under IE8; it's too far away from the HTML5 standards on which TW5 is based. In your situation, though, perhaps your IE8 users could use a static HTML view of your content. You can export a static snapshot through the control panel Tools tab, where there is an export option. The static HTML representation can be customised (including the ordering of tiddlers). You'll notice that tiddler links work as expected, but there's no other interactive features (users would have to search using the browser search facility). Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Luis Gonzalez kew...@gmail.com wrote: I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Better home button
Hi Dave,
I think
span class=purplebutton title=Home$link
to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link/span
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:18:33 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
Hi guys thanks for your ideas. In Ton's link below, where or how do I add
the purplebutton class? The home button shows as white on white until hover
when it turns black.
span title=Home$link
to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link/span
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Ton Gerner ton.g...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
Hi Dave,
Otherwise:
span title=Home$link
to=HomeTiddler{{$:/images/home-button}}/$link/span
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:19:44 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote:
Hi Dave,
AFAIK my Home button works ONLY with a single tiddler or a list of
tiddlers in DefaultTiddlers.
It doesn't work with the later added possibility
[list[$:/StoryList]]
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:41:28 PM UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
Hi guys,
I just need a home button that will act as a link to one tiddler named
StartHere, but which is not the default tiddler. I don't care so much
whether it closes the other tiddlers, but that would be nice, too.
I have been using Ton's home button, but it doesn't work if at some
point you have closed the default tiddler. Or at least it doesn't always
work for me, and I have to use the refresh in my browser to open the
default tiddler again.
Thankful for any love you give me here.
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [tw] [TW5] - Drag drop of ico files does not work in Firefox
Hi Jeremy, I use the Utilu Mozilla Firefox Collection v1.1.0.4. That contains Firefox versions from v2.0 to v30 Nightly that can be installed and used besides your standard Firefox. Up till now I had only v3.6 and v16 installed. Now I installed v20 and up. I tested with v24, v25, v26, v27, v28beta1, v29 Aurora and v30 Nightly. In ALL cases I could drag drop favicon.ico from https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=true to Firefox and get a normal icon. So it has to do with my standard Firefox browser. Since I did start my standard browser with all add-ons disabled and could not get a normal icon by drag drop of favicon.ico, there must be Something rotten in the state of Denmark so to speak. Something wrong with the profile or so. So you don't need to install a Windows 7 virtual machine; you can spend your time better ;) Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:47:37 AM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Jeremy, Even with all add-ons disabled it does not work with FF v27. It does work with FF v16 (the latest version that worked with TiddlySnip). On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:18:11 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I can't duplicate the problem with Firefox 27 on Windows 8; dragging a favicon.ico from Windows Explorer to tiddlywiki.com/empty.html works fine. I don't have a Windows 7 virtual machine set up at the moment, which might be the next step in duplicating it. If you're on the hangout tomorrow perhaps you can demo the problem? Sure. Cheers, Ton Best wishes Jeremy. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Ton Gerner ton.g...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, I wasn't clear in my description: I meant drag/drop from Explorer to my TW5. That works as described in my first post: 1) Chrome OK 2) Firefox no icon but a tiddler with strange characters. After changing the type from 'application/file' to 'image/x-icon' I got no icon in FF v26 and only an image outline in FF v27. This happens with all icons I tried, also the $:/favicon.ico from https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/ editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=truehttps://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FJermolene%2FTiddlyWiki5%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Feditions%2Ftw5.com%2Ftiddlers%2Fimages%2Ffavicon.ico%3Fraw%3Dtruesa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEwQLZteb-MDTy-aYieuuHtUvZoVw If I drag/drop the $:/favicon.ico from http://tiddlywiki.com/ to my TW5 it is OK (browser window = browser window). Hope that helps. Cheers, Ton On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:06:57 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Ton Is this a bug in Firefox or in TW5? Do you get the same problem with all *.ico files? I was able to drag a copy of the TW5 favicon into Firefox 27 on the Mac without any problems: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/ editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=true Best wishes Jeremy Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] new tiddlywiki install
used to use TW a long time ago, just getting into it again since it's incredibly helpful for work. I don't want to host images on tinypic or image shack because a) it may be sensitive company information which I want to reference within the context of the wiki b) I'm already hosting it on my google drive. Is there a way to successfully render a photo hosted in either google drive or dropbox within a tiddly? I have not been able to make it work as of yet. Always gives me the broken image mumbo-jumbo. thanks in advance. ~B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] [TW5] - Drag drop of ico files does not work in Firefox
Hi Jeremy, And yes, with a fresh profile it works with my standard browser too. Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:41:46 PM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Jeremy, I use the Utilu Mozilla Firefox Collection v1.1.0.4. That contains Firefox versions from v2.0 to v30 Nightly that can be installed and used besides your standard Firefox. Up till now I had only v3.6 and v16 installed. Now I installed v20 and up. I tested with v24, v25, v26, v27, v28beta1, v29 Aurora and v30 Nightly. In ALL cases I could drag drop favicon.ico from https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=trueto Firefox and get a normal icon. So it has to do with my standard Firefox browser. Since I did start my standard browser with all add-ons disabled and could not get a normal icon by drag drop of favicon.ico, there must be Something rotten in the state of Denmark so to speak. Something wrong with the profile or so. So you don't need to install a Windows 7 virtual machine; you can spend your time better ;) Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:47:37 AM UTC+1, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Jeremy, Even with all add-ons disabled it does not work with FF v27. It does work with FF v16 (the latest version that worked with TiddlySnip). On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:18:11 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I can't duplicate the problem with Firefox 27 on Windows 8; dragging a favicon.ico from Windows Explorer to tiddlywiki.com/empty.html works fine. I don't have a Windows 7 virtual machine set up at the moment, which might be the next step in duplicating it. If you're on the hangout tomorrow perhaps you can demo the problem? Sure. Cheers, Ton Best wishes Jeremy. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Ton Gerner ton.g...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, I wasn't clear in my description: I meant drag/drop from Explorer to my TW5. That works as described in my first post: 1) Chrome OK 2) Firefox no icon but a tiddler with strange characters. After changing the type from 'application/file' to 'image/x-icon' I got no icon in FF v26 and only an image outline in FF v27. This happens with all icons I tried, also the $:/favicon.ico from https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/ editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=truehttps://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FJermolene%2FTiddlyWiki5%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Feditions%2Ftw5.com%2Ftiddlers%2Fimages%2Ffavicon.ico%3Fraw%3Dtruesa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEwQLZteb-MDTy-aYieuuHtUvZoVw If I drag/drop the $:/favicon.ico from http://tiddlywiki.com/ to my TW5 it is OK (browser window = browser window). Hope that helps. Cheers, Ton On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:06:57 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Ton Is this a bug in Firefox or in TW5? Do you get the same problem with all *.ico files? I was able to drag a copy of the TW5 favicon into Firefox 27 on the Mac without any problems: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/ editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/images/favicon.ico?raw=true Best wishes Jeremy Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Footnotes [TW5]
Hello all, I was glad this was touched upon in the Google hangout #34 by Jeremy. I completely understood where Jeremy was coming from in regards to navigation in TW5. So, to that effect, if this may not be semantically possible and can do tool-tip (*like I believe I heard mentioned?*) then I can do that. As long as I can have a quick reference to either a link or source I wouldn't mind. Take a look at: http://www.opentip.org/ Maybe something to this effect can be implemented? Just an idea to throw in the hat per se. What do you think? Best regards, Julio On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:03 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:38:19 AM UTC+1, Daniel Baird wrote: Naively it seems to me that when editing, the footnote content should be right there where the reference is. This means you can easily edit the note, and avoid hassles like orphaned notes when you copy/paste stuff, etc. e.g: This is my sentence with [[note1::Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]]. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. _,~'^'~._referenceList^'~._,~'^ Would give: This is my sentence with note1. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. note1: Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one. When I read this suggestion I think about external [ext[]] and image [img[]] links. Thery are missing atm and some discussion is going on. So there is some work to do anyway. eg: [footnote[note1|Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]] ... IMO there is a problem with the automatic numbering with this syntax. ... @jeremy what do you think? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs
Hello Ton. Good stuff...that can definitely come in handy! I like it. Regards, Julio On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59:16 PM UTC-5, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi all, In TWc I was a fan of the TiddlersBarPlugin [1]. AFAIK Eric Shulman's BreadcrumbsPlugin [2] does about the same. Based on the code of the 'Open' tab in the Sidebar of TW5, I made my own Tiddlersbar (or breadcrumbs). I added it to my guide about a top and left menu [3]. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Ton [1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html [2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#BreadcrumbsPlugin [3] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Footnotes [TW5]
Can anyone summarise the hangout discussion? The high level goal of footnotes is to make a little bit of additional info available to the few readers who need it, without interrupting the flow of other readers. In a web/computer screen context having notes show up at the bottom of the page doesn't make sense, especially where scrolling might be required. Popups are a more familiar solution; I personally don't much like them but that shouldn't rule them out as the best way to do footnotes in a TW. If i were doing it for something other than tiddlywiki I might suggest that clicking the reference marker could a sort of horizontal page split to show the footnote content -- like iOS folders used to do (demo in JS here: http://jsfiddle.net/SDp5y/ ) or like the Brackets editor splits a source file to edit a colour or something (e.g. the screenshot at http://brackets.io/ ). Anyway it's easy to fiddle around with the exact right way to show footnote content, what's more important is getting the information model and wiki markup right first. Cheers ;Daniel On 12 February 2014 08:59, Julio Peña jpe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was glad this was touched upon in the Google hangout #34 by Jeremy. I completely understood where Jeremy was coming from in regards to navigation in TW5. So, to that effect, if this may not be semantically possible and can do tool-tip (*like I believe I heard mentioned?*) then I can do that. As long as I can have a quick reference to either a link or source I wouldn't mind. Take a look at: http://www.opentip.org/ Maybe something to this effect can be implemented? Just an idea to throw in the hat per se. What do you think? Best regards, Julio On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:03 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:38:19 AM UTC+1, Daniel Baird wrote: Naively it seems to me that when editing, the footnote content should be right there where the reference is. This means you can easily edit the note, and avoid hassles like orphaned notes when you copy/paste stuff, etc. e.g: This is my sentence with [[note1::Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]]. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. _,~'^'~._referenceList^'~._,~'^ Would give: This is my sentence with note1. Another sentence follows. Even other paragraphs. note1: Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one. When I read this suggestion I think about external [ext[]] and image [img[]] links. Thery are missing atm and some discussion is going on. So there is some work to do anyway. eg: [footnote[note1|Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one.]] ... IMO there is a problem with the automatic numbering with this syntax. ... @jeremy what do you think? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Baird retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs
Hey, Ton! Great work. Even though the following suggestions may sound like criticism, I still intend to use this because it's so useful, even without addressing the following concerns. A great implementation of the TiddlersBarPlugin is herehttp://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#tbGtdTheme%20TiddlersBarPlugin%20deskat TobiBeer's tbGTDhttp://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#tbGtdTheme%20TiddlersBarPlugin%20desk. The TiddlersBar Normally forces single page kind of view, so you're only ever viewing one Tiddler at a time. If you open a new tiddler, the previous one is hidden, but its title is visible in the TiddlersBar in a greyed out color, as if they were in tabs. The currently viewed Tiddler is a different color, so you can see which one you're in right now. Partly because of this, the area where they are displayed is limited to just above the open Tiddler, no further left, no further right. Would you be able to adjust the code and/or CSS to bring those features back too? Or at least, would you be able to explain to me how to do it? Or some of them? Speaking of explaining to me how to do it, currently, I've tried implementing your TopBar and Breadcrumbs into mine, a blank, new TiddlyWiki, but it's not working. I created all 4 Tiddlers, $:/_topmenu $:/_breadcrumbs $:/_stylesheet/topmenu $:/_stylesheet/breadcrumbs Copypasted the contents from the instruction page, each tagged as required, (there isn't a tag listed for what tags $:/_breadcrumbs should have, so i've left its tags blank) And almost nothing happens. except both $:/_topmenu $:/_breadcrumbs display the same content, which is a list of the open tiddlers. What am I doing wrong? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:59:16 PM UTC-7, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi all, In TWc I was a fan of the TiddlersBarPlugin [1]. AFAIK Eric Shulman's BreadcrumbsPlugin [2] does about the same. Based on the code of the 'Open' tab in the Sidebar of TW5, I made my own Tiddlersbar (or breadcrumbs). I added it to my guide about a top and left menu [3]. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Ton [1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html [2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#BreadcrumbsPlugin [3] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TWC: TeamTasks and checkbox interface for forEachTiddler plugin
Have you considered dGSDhttp://thinkcreatesolve.biz/dGSD.html#[[Next%20and%20Waiting%20Actions%20by%20Priority]]? It's a pretty powerful tool. I'm in the process of trying to create basically a TW5 version which is more elegant and user friendly. On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:31:36 AM UTC-7, sklpns wrote: Hey whatever thank you very much for your reply. Been struggling with Checkbox Plugin with no luck. Writing a script, let alone a plugin, is out of the question, I'm afraid, as I have no coding knowledge. The closest I could find is this page http://zrenard.com/tiddlywiki/cal.php where tiddlywiki code (a calendar table) is produced based on options via checkboxes, drop down lists etc, but I couldn't decipher that either. should any more ideas come up I'd be grateful. thanks again sklpns On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:58:51 AM UTC+2, whatever wrote: Hi! You can indeed, but you'll need a couple of additional plugins for that. First, you'll need either CheckboxPlugin (1) or CheckboxToggleTag (2). Their syntax differs, but they offer similar options. Read their info tiddlers for more information. Once you decide which one you'll use, add the appropriate syntax to your fET. Using one of these plugins will involve adding tags to tiddlers. I suggest you include the TW markup syntax first, just to see how it would look. It should also help you decide which of the plugins to use as well as how to go about tagging. You'll also need to add the appropriate conditions for these tags to fET. Once you have this set up, you'll also need the RefreshTiddler (3), to force the refresh of the tiddler containing your fET. Also, you need a button to reset all the checkbox-added tags. You'll need to write a script which fetches all the appropriate tiddlers and removes the tags. For that, you'll need InlineJavascriptPlugin (4). Alternatively, you could just make a plugin for the whole thing, it would be much more flexible, I think. hth w (1) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CheckboxPlugin (2) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CheckboxToggleTag (3) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#RefreshTiddler (4) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin On Monday, February 3, 2014 10:05:14 PM UTC+1, sklpns wrote: hey all I'm using a TeamTasks v0.3 file to organize tasks (some 1300 of them by the way). Having installed ForEachTiddlerPlugin I'm using the following code forEachTiddler where 'store.getValue(tiddler,UserDefinitions) store.getValue(tiddler,UserDefinitions).readBracketedList().containsAny([ PhilHawksworth, AnneOther ]) store.getValue(tiddler,ScopeDefinitions) store.getValue(tiddler,ScopeDefinitions).readBracketedList().containsAny([ Work, Play ]) store.getValue(tiddler,StatusDefinitions) store.getValue(tiddler,StatusDefinitions).readBracketedList().containsAny([ Pending, InProgress, OnHold, Complete ]) ' write '|+(index+1)++ |[[+tiddler.title+]]+ |+store.getValue(tiddler,UserDefinitions)+ |+store.getValue(tiddler,ScopeDefinitions)+ |+store.getValue(tiddler,StatusDefinitions)+ |\n ' begin '|sortable|k\n|A|!Tiddler|!~User|!~Scope|Status|h\n'' to generate a table report of tasks, ie a table containing tiddler name, user, scope and status columns Please see a minimal test case here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67129323/teamtasks%20v03-fet-test.html My question is: is there a way to add some sort of checkbox interface for the fet code? Something like a number of checkboxes, one for each definition, so, for instance, when you check AnneOther, PhilHawksworth and Work you get a table report containing only the tasks assigned to AnneOther and PhilHawksworth that are categorized as Work? hope this makes sense and thanks in advance sklpns -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs
While we're on it, might as well offer my thoughts and stuff. Even though I couldn't get it working on my Tiddlywiki, I downloaded the Tiddlywiki at http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ and tried editing that instead. Unfortunately, if I change themes, everything falls apart and uglifies quick. Would it be possible to make a more theme-neutral stylesheet for the breadcrumbs, top-bar, and leftbar? Also, would it be possible to emulate the effect in TiddlersBar, where the currently open tiddler tab has a different color, perhaps by using something with the zoomin view or something? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:13:17 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley wrote: Hey, Ton! Great work. Even though the following suggestions may sound like criticism, I still intend to use this because it's so useful, even without addressing the following concerns. A great implementation of the TiddlersBarPlugin is herehttp://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#tbGtdTheme%20TiddlersBarPlugin%20deskat TobiBeer's tbGTDhttp://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#tbGtdTheme%20TiddlersBarPlugin%20desk. The TiddlersBar Normally forces single page kind of view, so you're only ever viewing one Tiddler at a time. If you open a new tiddler, the previous one is hidden, but its title is visible in the TiddlersBar in a greyed out color, as if they were in tabs. The currently viewed Tiddler is a different color, so you can see which one you're in right now. Partly because of this, the area where they are displayed is limited to just above the open Tiddler, no further left, no further right. Would you be able to adjust the code and/or CSS to bring those features back too? Or at least, would you be able to explain to me how to do it? Or some of them? Speaking of explaining to me how to do it, currently, I've tried implementing your TopBar and Breadcrumbs into mine, a blank, new TiddlyWiki, but it's not working. I created all 4 Tiddlers, $:/_topmenu $:/_breadcrumbs $:/_stylesheet/topmenu $:/_stylesheet/breadcrumbs Copypasted the contents from the instruction page, each tagged as required, (there isn't a tag listed for what tags $:/_breadcrumbs should have, so i've left its tags blank) And almost nothing happens. except both $:/_topmenu $:/_breadcrumbs display the same content, which is a list of the open tiddlers. What am I doing wrong? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:59:16 PM UTC-7, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi all, In TWc I was a fan of the TiddlersBarPlugin [1]. AFAIK Eric Shulman's BreadcrumbsPlugin [2] does about the same. Based on the code of the 'Open' tab in the Sidebar of TW5, I made my own Tiddlersbar (or breadcrumbs). I added it to my guide about a top and left menu [3]. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Ton [1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html [2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#BreadcrumbsPlugin [3] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] How to get rid of icons and use text again instead?
I prefer the look of TWC, with words in the toolbars and for creating a New Tiddler, saving, etc,* instead of icons, *but I'm having trouble figuring out how to change it. In the same vein, I'd like to add some toolbar stuff like at http://tw5toolbar.tiddlyspot.com/ but I'd rather have the buttons just be text buttons, not icons. Help? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] - Is it possible to toggle a tag with a button?
Hey Stephan On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:22:30 AM UTC-7, Stephan Hradek wrote: Neither me. I just looked into the tiddlers which set and remove tags. They are buttons anyway. How did you do that then? is there a list of which tiddlers can set and remove tags? are there other lists of tiddlers classified by functionalities like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:32:23 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Luis We're unlikely to be able to make TW5 work properly under IE8; it's too far away from the HTML5 standards on which TW5 is based. In your situation, though, perhaps your IE8 users could use a static HTML view of your content. You can export a static snapshot through the control panel Tools tab, where there is an export option. The static HTML representation can be customised (including the ordering of tiddlers). You'll notice that tiddler links work as expected, but there's no other interactive features (users would have to search using the browser search facility). Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Luis Gonzalez kew...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Search by tags
Hi, I'm using Alberto's side-bar search improvement which is a great addition but I'd also like to use the side-bar to search by tags only. I've noticed that if I pre-fix the tags with a character e.g.+ it will achieve the same thing but I wondered if there was a more elegant way of doing it. Thanks Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
On 12 February 2014 16:42, Jon fiveri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? I believe Jeremy is making TW5 fully operational in the current IE versions 9, 10, and 11 so you can be fairly confident in its future proof-ness. Are you stuck on an old version of Windows that can only use IE8 and not more recent versions? ;Daniel -- Daniel Baird retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] [TW5] Search by tags
Hi, I'm using Alberto's side-bar search improvement which is a great addition but I'd also like to use the side-bar to search by tags only. I've noticed that if I pre-fix the tags with a character e.g.+ it will achieve the same thing but I wondered if there was a more elegant way of doing it. Thanks Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Ah, sorry. My brain obviously hasn't woken up yet - I was thinking IE8 was the latest version. I'd better go back to sleep! On Wednesday, 12 February 2014 06:57:37 UTC, Daniel Baird wrote: On 12 February 2014 16:42, Jon five...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? I believe Jeremy is making TW5 fully operational in the current IE versions 9, 10, and 11 so you can be fairly confident in its future proof-ness. Are you stuck on an old version of Windows that can only use IE8 and not more recent versions? ;Daniel -- Daniel Baird retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Hi Jeremy, I've tried Googling about IE and html5 compliance, and I'm not coming up with much. I can't find any information at all on compliance issues the latest IE versions. Could you point me/us in the direction of an article or two explaining some of the problems with IE? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:42:37 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:32:23 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Luis We're unlikely to be able to make TW5 work properly under IE8; it's too far away from the HTML5 standards on which TW5 is based. In your situation, though, perhaps your IE8 users could use a static HTML view of your content. You can export a static snapshot through the control panel Tools tab, where there is an export option. The static HTML representation can be customised (including the ordering of tiddlers). You'll notice that tiddler links work as expected, but there's no other interactive features (users would have to search using the browser search facility). Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Luis Gonzalez kew...@gmail.com wrote: I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Maybe this? http://caniuse.com/#cats=HTML5 On 12 February 2014 17:01, Leo Staley leosta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, I've tried Googling about IE and html5 compliance, and I'm not coming up with much. I can't find any information at all on compliance issues the latest IE versions. Could you point me/us in the direction of an article or two explaining some of the problems with IE? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:42:37 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:32:23 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Luis We're unlikely to be able to make TW5 work properly under IE8; it's too far away from the HTML5 standards on which TW5 is based. In your situation, though, perhaps your IE8 users could use a static HTML view of your content. You can export a static snapshot through the control panel Tools tab, where there is an export option. The static HTML representation can be customised (including the ordering of tiddlers). You'll notice that tiddler links work as expected, but there's no other interactive features (users would have to search using the browser search facility). Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Luis Gonzalez kew...@gmail.comwrote: I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Baird retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Search by tags
Where can I find Alberto's side-bar search improvement you're talking about? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:58:15 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: Hi, I'm using Alberto's side-bar search improvement which is a great addition but I'd also like to use the side-bar to search by tags only. I've noticed that if I pre-fix the tags with a character e.g.+ it will achieve the same thing but I wondered if there was a more elegant way of doing it. Thanks Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Fantastic! Thanks very much. I'd still like to hear some details on specific failings of IE, but that's a great link. A few clicks away on that site gives an even better answer to my question actually: http://caniuse.com/#compare=ie+8,ie+11,firefox+30,chrome+35 On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:02:14 AM UTC-7, Daniel Baird wrote: Maybe this? http://caniuse.com/#cats=HTML5 On 12 February 2014 17:01, Leo Staley leos...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Hi Jeremy, I've tried Googling about IE and html5 compliance, and I'm not coming up with much. I can't find any information at all on compliance issues the latest IE versions. Could you point me/us in the direction of an article or two explaining some of the problems with IE? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:42:37 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: Hi Jeremy, One of the things which attracted me to TW5 was that it was intended to be future-proof, at least for the next 25 years. If it's not compatible with IE8, does that reassurance need to be revised or is IE8 not thought to be the way other browsers will develop? Thanks Jon On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:32:23 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Luis We're unlikely to be able to make TW5 work properly under IE8; it's too far away from the HTML5 standards on which TW5 is based. In your situation, though, perhaps your IE8 users could use a static HTML view of your content. You can export a static snapshot through the control panel Tools tab, where there is an export option. The static HTML representation can be customised (including the ordering of tiddlers). You'll notice that tiddler links work as expected, but there's no other interactive features (users would have to search using the browser search facility). Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Luis Gonzalez kew...@gmail.comwrote: I am the team leader of a group of people We use TiddlyWiki to classic maintain all information about our service. I am thinking to migrate to the new TiddlyWiki 5, but it does not open in the internet explorer browser. I use Firefox to add information and all other people are readers. Is any intention to solve this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Daniel Baird retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Search by tags
Hi Leo: side bar search improvementhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/side$20bar$20search$20improvement/tiddlywiki/h5slrcku7nU/VhHVjxCGTnUJ On Wednesday, 12 February 2014 07:03:27 UTC, Leo Staley wrote: Where can I find Alberto's side-bar search improvement you're talking about? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:58:15 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote: Hi, I'm using Alberto's side-bar search improvement which is a great addition but I'd also like to use the side-bar to search by tags only. I've noticed that if I pre-fix the tags with a character e.g.+ it will achieve the same thing but I wondered if there was a more elegant way of doing it. Thanks Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs
Hello Ton. Thank you very much for sharing your TW customizations. They are very useful and I'm using them a lot. Really, I love them I don't want to sound negative, sorry if so, but I think your hows to are a bit hard to understand for newbies. When I first installed the topbar Menu I had to read the description more than 10 times. At the end experimenting gave me the answer. I don't mean you have the responsibility to introduce people to TW, but maybe you should point to any other tutorial. For this particular case: I followed your instructions and I can't get your leftMenu to work. Did you noticed that you don't talk about your slider macro? \define slider(label,text) $button popup=$:/state/$label$ class=btn-invisible tw-slider$list filter=[[$label$]]$view field=title//$list/$button $reveal type=nomatch text= default= state=$:/state/$label$ animate=yes $text$ /$reveal \end I just pasted that macro definition in the LeftMenu (not $:/_leftmenu) and now I can see the options. Maybe someone is experiencing the same issue. I think the list of tiddlers needed is splitted. This tiddlers: $:/_leftmenu $:/_stylesheet/leftmenu LeftMenu looks not enough. I have already installed your topMenu with buttons, so I'm affraid that I have to work a little bit to make it work together. Just one more question: why did you append _(uderscore) to all your tiddlers? This has changed since the version I have installed and I have to do lot of work to implement new features. El martes, 11 de febrero de 2014 20:59:16 UTC+1, Ton Gerner escribió: Hi all, In TWc I was a fan of the TiddlersBarPlugin [1]. AFAIK Eric Shulman's BreadcrumbsPlugin [2] does about the same. Based on the code of the 'Open' tab in the Sidebar of TW5, I made my own Tiddlersbar (or breadcrumbs). I added it to my guide about a top and left menu [3]. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Ton [1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html [2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#BreadcrumbsPlugin [3] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] - Is it possible to toggle a tag with a button?
Am Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2014 06:21:29 UTC+1 schrieb Leo Staley: How did you do that then? is there a list of which tiddlers can set and remove tags? are there other lists of tiddlers classified by functionalities like that? I just checked the edit templates because you can edit the tags when editing a tiddler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: new tiddlywiki in internet explorer 8
Here's another answer to my question. Even Android's browser is better than even the newest IE http://html5test.com/compare/browser/ie-11/firefox-26/chrome-32/android-4.0.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs
Hello again Ton. At the end I got this working with this problems: * Since the possition is fixed I can not scroll down when the list is too long. * Because the stylesheet modifies the left margin of the story river, it goes out of the screen (I have to scrool) when the right sideBar is hidden. * Significant slow down of my TW. Are you going to integrate the leftMenu with your topbar with buttons ? Anyway, I'll keep trying. El miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2014 08:18:33 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez escribió: Hello Ton. Thank you very much for sharing your TW customizations. They are very useful and I'm using them a lot. Really, I love them I don't want to sound negative, sorry if so, but I think your hows to are a bit hard to understand for newbies. When I first installed the topbar Menu I had to read the description more than 10 times. At the end experimenting gave me the answer. I don't mean you have the responsibility to introduce people to TW, but maybe you should point to any other tutorial. For this particular case: I followed your instructions and I can't get your leftMenu to work. Did you noticed that you don't talk about your slider macro? \define slider(label,text) $button popup=$:/state/$label$ class=btn-invisible tw-slider$list filter=[[$label$]]$view field=title//$list/$button $reveal type=nomatch text= default= state=$:/state/$label$ animate=yes $text$ /$reveal \end I just pasted that macro definition in the LeftMenu (not $:/_leftmenu) and now I can see the options. Maybe someone is experiencing the same issue. I think the list of tiddlers needed is splitted. This tiddlers: $:/_leftmenu $:/_stylesheet/leftmenu LeftMenu looks not enough. I have already installed your topMenu with buttons, so I'm affraid that I have to work a little bit to make it work together. Just one more question: why did you append _(uderscore) to all your tiddlers? This has changed since the version I have installed and I have to do lot of work to implement new features. El martes, 11 de febrero de 2014 20:59:16 UTC+1, Ton Gerner escribió: Hi all, In TWc I was a fan of the TiddlersBarPlugin [1]. AFAIK Eric Shulman's BreadcrumbsPlugin [2] does about the same. Based on the code of the 'Open' tab in the Sidebar of TW5, I made my own Tiddlersbar (or breadcrumbs). I added it to my guide about a top and left menu [3]. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers, Ton [1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html [2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#BreadcrumbsPlugin [3] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: How to get rid of icons and use text again instead?
The easy approach could be to simply replace the icon tiddlers with text. That way you'll replace them everywhere. The more flexble approach is to find the view/edit templates where the buttons are used (transcluded) and replace the transclusion with the preferred text. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
