Re: [tw] Tiddywiki For Academia Business

2014-11-04 Thread Alex Hough
Dear All,

Its interesting to see the focus on Academia and Business here. TW is a
personal non-linear notebook at a high level of abstraction, considering it
a tool for research is useful.  The more academic and business related use
cases the better. One of the problems I had when working at a business
school (academic and business) was that the people i was working with
thought i was armed with a fun technology for a dabbler : serious people
would use Powerpoint, Word and Excels for day to day tasks, while
specialist annotating tools would be used for annotating and coding video
and audio recordings.

Alex

On 4 November 2014 06:52, Stephan Hradek stephan.hra...@gmail.com wrote:



 Am Dienstag, 4. November 2014 07:46:22 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:

 On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:04:59 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I do plan to port reveal.js to TW5 at some point:

 http://lab.hakim.se/reveal-js/#/


 I think having impress [1] would be much more impressive :)
 -m

 [1] http://bartaz.github.io/impress.js


 Impressive it is.

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Re: [tw] Looking for a way to list the 10 tiddlers with the oldest lastOpened date (if there is such a thing)

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Steve

If the underlying goal is to track information about how much attention has
been paid to a tiddler I think we can do a bit better than a last opened
date for each tiddler. The trouble with a last opened date is that the
most recent datum hides all the preceding ones. If I have a tiddler A and a
tiddler B, and tiddler A is consulted 1,000 times, and then tiddler B is
consulted a single time, we wouldn't be able to distinguish the popularity
of tiddler A.

The TW core already tracks the history list, which is a list of the
tiddlers that have been navigated to in sequence. You can see it by opening
$:/HistoryList. So, if someone were repeatedly accessing the same tiddler
there would be one entry in the history list for each navigation. As things
stand, the history list is not saved or synced, so it only persists for a
single session of using TiddlyWiki. If that were changed you could track
the history lists of all your users, and analyse them to get much richer
insights into usage.

Best wishes

Jeremy.






On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, steve swwhar...@verizon.net wrote:

 Jeremy

 Here is my probably overly simplistic view of how a last opened field
 could function.

 What I was  thinking of was that last opened means the last time that
 the tiddler was drawn on the screen by any user of the wiki (if there were
 multiple users). Perhaps a last drawn on the screen timestamp would be
 more to the point. As far as my tiddler curation use case goes a viewing
 by anybody could be interpreted as an indicator of recent interest. If a
 tiddler was to be scrolled into view I think that they would have had to be
 drawn on the screen first. If I had viewed a tiddler but not saved it, I
 would imagine that some sort of a timestamp field would be updated. As an
 approximate measure of reader interest I think that a single timestamp
 could be sufficient.

 Just my two cents.

 Thanks
 Steve Wharton

 On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:06:27 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Danielo

 In my opinion last opened time should be recorded in a different toddler
 (a config tiddler) and should be managed by the link widget. This is not an
 easy task for a plugin developer since it is not easy to extend the link
 plugin.


 I think it would actually need to be done in the navigator widget. The
 way to handle things like this is for the core to add extension mechanisms;
 in this case the navigation handling could be extended to forward a
 tm-has-navigated message. Then a plugin could trap that message in a
 handler on the root widget.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




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Re: [tw] Questions about Transclusion

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Blake

You'll see that error if you view the template. It occurs because when the
template is viewed directly, the current tiddler will be the template
itself. That means that `{{!!text}}` would attempt to view the content of
the tiddler recursively. Hence the warning.

But don't worry, just close the template tiddler and try
the {{HelloThere||myTemplate}} part.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Blake Blacksmith blakeblacksm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 For some reason the {{!!text}} in

 ! $view field=title/
 {{!!text}}


 Causes a transclusion error:
 Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget

 Although the function still works to transclude my tiddlers. I just wanted
 to let you know. I can still use the template you provided so thanks!

 -Blake


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 wrote:

 Hi Blake

 Is there a way to transclude tiddlers with each transcluded-tiddlers
 title as a header?


 Create a tiddler called myTemplate containing:

 ! $view field=title/

 {{!!text}}

 Then you can transclude the tiddler HelloThere through that template:

 {{HelloThere||myTemplate}}

 You can transclude a list of tiddlers in the same way. Here's
 transcluding all the tiddlers tagged Concepts:

 {{{ [tag[Concepts]] ||myTemplate}}



 Can we transclude all children of a tiddler (ie: for a tag-tiddler) in
 one tiddler?


 Do you mean all tiddlers that have a particular tag? That's in the
 example above.


 I appreciate any help here. I've been looking for answers to this for a
 few days now.


 The documentation is still an area of concern. It's very hard to learn
 TiddlyWiki and we need much better beginners documentation.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Beunier
Hi Alberto,

I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
unavailable. Can u give me another links?

Regards,

Jonathan

Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 10:46:12 UTC+2, Alberto Molina a écrit :


 Have a look at tesis.tiddlyspot.com where I use a hierarchical 
 organisation of contents: authors  books  papers  quotes  comments…

 Instead of a custom field, you can use the field list like in that example 

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ypwz055jb44ps2/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%20TW%205.0.12.html


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[tw] [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
titles, but I can't find the way.
Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the key.

Regards.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Branimir Braykov
I could do a show and tell of one of my examples, but that's if I manage to 
join today.

On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:50:01 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

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 https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video 
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le lundi 3 novembre 2014 17:12:01 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :


 El lunes, 3 de noviembre de 2014 13:12:46 UTC+1, Birthe C escribió:


 Thank you very much. encryptTiddler works now. It looks fine 
 http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com but importing it into my own wiki I got 
 a very large button.

 Can you share an example? I would like to analyze why. 
  


Hi Danielo,

I had the same issue about very large button. I just upgrade from your 
wbesite, and now it's OK with the latest version.

Thanks :)

NB : I wondering about to translate the wording This is an encrypted 
Tiddler. Is there a roadmap to allow that ?


Have a nice day,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

2014-11-04 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Danielo and Matabele, 

I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning your 
discussion, here goes my point of view. 

I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW for 
Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   since the 
core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start from scratch 
with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, without plugins. My 
own policy is not to use plugins unless they are necessary. 

But now I don't know what can be done with maketid and other plugins that is 
not possible with the core alone. And I don't know if it's worth the effort to 
just update them, or to ensure backward compatibility with pre-stable versions 
like mine because I don't want to stay in beta for ever. I would rather prefer 
new plugins that extend 5.1.5 capabilities. 

You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for that! 

Alberto 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Alberto Molina
FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
 titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
 everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the key.

 Regards.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Yes! Exactly that.

Thank you.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
 titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
 everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the key.

 Regards.



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[tw] [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

I'm pretty sure this have been discussed before, but I can not find the 
thread.

How can I use the text of a tiddler with line breaks as a widget parameter? 
I'm trying the following but I'm getting unexpected token error

$set name=somename value={{someTiddler}}
code goes here.
/$set

Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

2014-11-04 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Jonathan,

I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
 unavailable. Can u give me another links?


This is a (quasi-)empty public version:

http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/  http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/

and this is my own private version with real contents, if you want to see a 
working example:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp8x48mpr5mi3ma/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%205.0.15.html?dl=0

Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Maybe this is a problem with maketid widget.

Matabelle, do you know if your widget has such problem? I see that 
tiddlywiki for scholars uses line breaks, but I don't understand why it 
does not work for me.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:54:31 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:

 Hello,

 I'm pretty sure this have been discussed before, but I can not find the 
 thread.

 How can I use the text of a tiddler with line breaks as a widget 
 parameter? I'm trying the following but I'm getting unexpected token error

 $set name=somename value={{someTiddler}}
 code goes here.
 /$set

 Thanks in advance.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Jeremy,
 

 https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video 
 preview at the above link.


Trying to ask my first question but the QA button does nothing but opening 
the tab's (future) video with nothing where to ask the questions. Here it 
goes:

When I drag  drop an image file from my desktop to TW, it gets fully 
imported. 
When I do the same from a web page to TW, it just creates a link.
Why not let the user choose, in both cases, if he wants only the link or a 
full import ?

My usecase is the following, for preparing teaching materials for History 
of Arts, I need a lot of pictures. Some of them are already in my computer, 
others need to be taken from the web. But I want to use them as external 
images. The ideal situation, for that usecase, would be the drag  drop 
import process creating an external image tiddler.

Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
The error is much more concise in firefox:

SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 1 
column 13 of the JSON data

Why?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Branimir

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Branimir Braykov bray...@gmail.com wrote:

 I could do a show and tell of one of my examples, but that's if I manage
 to join today.


That would be great, please do - I hope you can make it,

Best wishes

Jeremy




 On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:50:01 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

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 https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video
 preview at the above link.

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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Beunier
Thanks for fast response.

Tiddlywiki is in french... good for me ;)

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:58:16 UTC+1, Alberto Molina a écrit :

 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
 unavailable. Can u give me another links?


 This is a (quasi-)empty public version:

 http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/  http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/

 and this is my own private version with real contents, if you want to see 
 a working example:


 https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp8x48mpr5mi3ma/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%205.0.15.html?dl=0

 Alberto


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Alberto

Google seem to have changed things around again.

You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select the
QA app, as shown below.

Many thanks

Jeremy



[image: Inline image 1]

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wrote:

 Hi Jeremy,


 https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

 You can post questions for the hangout using the QA button on the video
 preview at the above link.


 Trying to ask my first question but the QA button does nothing but
 opening the tab's (future) video with nothing where to ask the questions.
 Here it goes:

 When I drag  drop an image file from my desktop to TW, it gets fully
 imported.
 When I do the same from a web page to TW, it just creates a link.
 Why not let the user choose, in both cases, if he wants only the link or a
 full import ?

 My usecase is the following, for preparing teaching materials for History
 of Arts, I need a lot of pictures. Some of them are already in my computer,
 others need to be taken from the web. But I want to use them as external
 images. The ideal situation, for that usecase, would be the drag  drop
 import process creating an external image tiddler.

 Alberto




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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can
you put up a minimal test case?

Best wishes

Jeremy


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wrote:

 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 1
 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Alberto Molina


 You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select 
 the QA app, as shown below.


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive 
the following string:

 {text:Now↵Try 
↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title

Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
The code that fails is like this

// Make the clone of the template
 var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
 debugger;
 var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
 var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);

The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string with 
those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences should 
return \n instead?

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can 
 you put up a minimal test case?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 javascript: wrote:

 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 
 1 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope
for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON
needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the
variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much
better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.

Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that
comes out of substituteVariableReferences?

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,

 I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
 After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive
 the following string:

  {text:Now↵Try
 ↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title

 Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
 The code that fails is like this

 // Make the clone of the template
  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
  debugger;
  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);

 The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string with
 those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences should
 return \n instead?

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can
 you put up a minimal test case?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line
 1 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

I'm just using the maketid widget from Matabelle,which is based on Stephans 
widget.
Let me know if what I posted below is what you asked

   1. 
   2. make: 
   
{text:$(code)$,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title:_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate,modified:20141031075025632,created:20141031074930842,comments:$(comments)$}
   3. makeClone: undefined
   4. modificationField: undefined
   5. newtags: undefined
   6. t: undefined
   7. tempTest: {text:Now↵Try 
   
↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title:_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate,modified:20141031075025632,created:20141031074930842,comments:no}
   8. 


El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:58:53 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope 
 for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON 
 needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the 
 variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much 
 better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.

 Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that 
 comes out of substituteVariableReferences?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hello,

 I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
 After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive 
 the following string:

  {text:Now↵Try 
 ↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title

 Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
 The code that fails is like this

 // Make the clone of the template
  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
  debugger;
  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);

 The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string 
 with those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences 
 should return \n instead?

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can 
 you put up a minimal test case?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at 
 line 1 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

The result was copied in a weird way. If you leave the mouse over a text 
for a second you can see the whole text.

Regards.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

Yes, it's the unencoded line breaks that look like the problem. JSON
requires line breaks in strings to be encoded to `\n`, while you've got
literal line breaks in there.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 I'm just using the maketid widget from Matabelle,which is based on
 Stephans widget.
 Let me know if what I posted below is what you asked

1.
2. make:

 {text:$(code)$,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title:_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate,modified:20141031075025632,created:20141031074930842,comments:$(comments)$}
3. makeClone: undefined
4. modificationField: undefined
5. newtags: undefined
6. t: undefined
7. tempTest: {text:Now↵Try

 ↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,title:_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate,modified:20141031075025632,created:20141031074930842,comments:no}
8.


 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:58:53 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope
 for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON
 needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the
 variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much
 better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.

 Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that
 comes out of substituteVariableReferences?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
 After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will
 receive the following string:

  {text:Now↵Try ↵LB,bag:default,revision:0,type:text/
 vnd.tiddlywiki,title

 Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
 The code that fails is like this

 // Make the clone of the template
  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
  debugger;
  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);

 The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string
 with those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences
 should return \n instead?

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above.
 Can you put up a minimal test case?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at
 line 1 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:04:11 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Yes, it's the unencoded line breaks that look like the problem. JSON 
 requires line breaks in strings to be encoded to `\n`, while you've got 
 literal line breaks in there.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line breaks? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line breaks?


Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of
macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that
include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The
code you're using is broken I'm afraid.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I'm afraid too.

What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line 
 breaks? 


 Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of 
 macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that 
 include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The 
 code you're using is broken I'm afraid.

 Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?


I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Perhaps you can share more of
the context?

Best wishes

Jeremy



 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line
 breaks?


 Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of
 macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that
 include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The
 code you're using is broken I'm afraid.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

Don't worry.
After knowing that substitute variables behaves as expected I will go with 
a different implementation. I never been very fan of this flow (is not my 
plugin) so I think I will change the widget to go through a different 
approach.

Regards.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:38:19 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?


 I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Perhaps you can share more of 
 the context?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy
  


 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line 
 breaks? 


 Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of 
 macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that 
 include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The 
 code you're using is broken I'm afraid.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:30:38 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:

 Hi Danielo and Matabele, 

 I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning 
 your discussion, here goes my point of view.


Glad to see you again. 

 I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW 
 for Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   
 since the core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start 
 from scratch with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, 
 without plugins. My own policy is not to use plugins unless they are 
 necessary.

At this point, there some things that can not be done with just the core, 
like creating tiddlers silently. The set widget will get unnecessary on 
5.1.5, so maybe you are right and it does not deserves the effort.
 

 You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for 
 that! 

 Alberto


You're welcome. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Matabelle,

Reviewing your plugin code again I found some unnecessary steps and some 
things that may break the widget stability. If you have any github repo 
maybe I can state those things there.

Regards. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #66 on Tuesday 28th October at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread PMario
annotations: http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2014-10-28-TW-hangout-66
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoZzqu7tYg

have fun!
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #66 on Tuesday 28th October at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Mario, much appreciated.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


 Hi Danielo,

 I had the same issue about very large button. I just upgrade from your 
 wbesite, and now it's OK with the latest version.

 Thanks :)

 So if it is working for you at the end right?

 

 NB : I wondering about to translate the wording This is an encrypted 
 Tiddler. Is there a roadmap to allow that ?


 Have a nice day,
 Sylvain


I'm not very familiar with the language mechanism of tiddliwiky. I just 
copied some core elements for those new widgets I created, but I'm not sure 
if that will work. Anyway, anyone can help me since the code is public on 
github:

https://github.com/danielo515/TIddlywiki5-EncryptTiddlerPlugin

If you have experience with translation with TW maybe you can point what is 
missed on my plugin to allow it. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

2014-11-04 Thread PMario
Hi Jeremy, Eric,

The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down. 
... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible 
anymore. 

This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups 
and I actually don't know what I should think about it. 
Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more 
info / feedback [1]. 

--- I did remove this section from the post -

here may be dragons

 and replaced it:

I really have to say: Osmosoft ... communication with the community is 
__not__ your strength!

have fun!
mario

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlyspace/xlWNT7iBbts/KcMEw6GD1V0J

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Re: [tw] Re: Briefcase Plugin -- a GTD tool

2014-11-04 Thread Stratos Laspas
Very good work, Roma, please keep it up! 
I wish you guys, David Szego and you, could exchange ideas on the project, 
as David has already done some excellent work on expanding mGSD 
capabilities on the previous platform.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:05:35 PM UTC+2, Roma Hicks wrote:

 Hey Dan, yeah I let that domain expire but progress is slowly cranking 
 forward on my plugin.  I meant to update the new link but had a bunch of 
 professional commitments get in the way of actually updating.

 For now my version 0.2b can be grabbed here.
 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bydfk9tNRJHBc3FvclFBMzRreTQauthuser=0


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 Hello,

 The domain 
 http://romahicks.com/example.html

 has expired. Where can I get the latest version of this fantastic TW?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

2014-11-04 Thread Matabele
Hi Alberto

The consensus appears to favour abandoning backward compatibility -- 
especially as the functionality of several of the widgets have to some 
extent been duplicated with action widgets in the core.

I think I shall update the widgets 'as is' to be compatible with version 
5.1.x -- then, as deficiencies in the functionality of action widgets 
become apparent, I can modify them accordingly to cover any needed 
functionality.

There is always more than one way to skin a cat :-)

regards

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:30:38 PM UTC+2, Alberto Molina wrote:

 Hi Danielo and Matabele, 

 I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning 
 your discussion, here goes my point of view. 

 I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW 
 for Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   
 since the core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start 
 from scratch with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, 
 without plugins. My own policy is not to use plugins unless they are 
 necessary. 

 But now I don't know what can be done with maketid and other plugins that 
 is not possible with the core alone. And I don't know if it's worth the 
 effort to just update them, or to ensure backward compatibility with 
 pre-stable versions like mine because I don't want to stay in beta for 
 ever. I would rather prefer new plugins that extend 5.1.5 capabilities. 

 You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for 
 that! 

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Re: [tw] Looking for a way to list the 10 tiddlers with the oldest lastOpened date (if there is such a thing)

2014-11-04 Thread steve
Jeremy

I agree that showing navigation frequency over time would be a more useful 
measure of attention/interest in a tiddler. Perhaps an Navigation History 
tiddler could be derived from an analysis of the history files. These 
results could be sorted and displayed perhaps as a histogram.

Steve Wharton

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:40:13 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Steve

 If the underlying goal is to track information about how much attention 
 has been paid to a tiddler I think we can do a bit better than a last 
 opened date for each tiddler. The trouble with a last opened date is 
 that the most recent datum hides all the preceding ones. If I have a 
 tiddler A and a tiddler B, and tiddler A is consulted 1,000 times, and then 
 tiddler B is consulted a single time, we wouldn't be able to distinguish 
 the popularity of tiddler A.

 The TW core already tracks the history list, which is a list of the 
 tiddlers that have been navigated to in sequence. You can see it by opening 
 $:/HistoryList. So, if someone were repeatedly accessing the same tiddler 
 there would be one entry in the history list for each navigation. As things 
 stand, the history list is not saved or synced, so it only persists for a 
 single session of using TiddlyWiki. If that were changed you could track 
 the history lists of all your users, and analyse them to get much richer 
 insights into usage.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.






 On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, steve swwh...@verizon.net javascript: 
 wrote:

 Jeremy

 Here is my probably overly simplistic view of how a last opened field 
 could function. 

 What I was  thinking of was that last opened means the last time that 
 the tiddler was drawn on the screen by any user of the wiki (if there were 
 multiple users). Perhaps a last drawn on the screen timestamp would be 
 more to the point. As far as my tiddler curation use case goes a viewing 
 by anybody could be interpreted as an indicator of recent interest. If a 
 tiddler was to be scrolled into view I think that they would have had to be 
 drawn on the screen first. If I had viewed a tiddler but not saved it, I 
 would imagine that some sort of a timestamp field would be updated. As an 
 approximate measure of reader interest I think that a single timestamp 
 could be sufficient. 

 Just my two cents.

 Thanks
 Steve Wharton

 On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:06:27 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Danielo

 In my opinion last opened time should be recorded in a different toddler 
 (a config tiddler) and should be managed by the link widget. This is not 
 an 
 easy task for a plugin developer since it is not easy to extend the link 
 plugin.


 I think it would actually need to be done in the navigator widget. The 
 way to handle things like this is for the core to add extension mechanisms; 
 in this case the navigation handling could be extended to forward a 
 tm-has-navigated message. Then a plugin could trap that message in a 
 handler on the root widget.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 14:14:48 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :


 So if it is working for you at the end right?



Yes it work, thanks,


 


 I'm not very familiar with the language mechanism of tiddliwiky. I just 
 copied some core elements for those new widgets I created, but I'm not sure 
 if that will work. Anyway, anyone can help me since the code is public on 
 github:

 https://github.com/danielo515/TIddlywiki5-EncryptTiddlerPlugin

 If you have experience with translation with TW maybe you can point what 
 is missed on my plugin to allow it. 


No sorry, not yet. For my own need, I'll edit my tiddlywiki I think. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

2014-11-04 Thread Matabele
Hi Danielo

I would welcome any suggestions. Unfortunately I don't currently have my 
code on github -- I'll look into it.

regards

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:04:25 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Matabelle,

 Reviewing your plugin code again I found some unnecessary steps and some 
 things that may break the widget stability. If you have any github repo 
 maybe I can state those things there.

 Regards. 


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I think I answered too early.

I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list 
if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:

 Yes! Exactly that.

 Thank you.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
 titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
 everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the key.

 Regards.



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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

 I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list
if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers
untouched:

[removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]

The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and
removes it.

The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not
have the prefix.

Best wishes

Jeremy





On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think I answered too early.

 I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list
 if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
 filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
 without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 Yes! Exactly that.

 Thank you.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing
 tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing
 everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the key.

 Regards.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I've unpinned this topic from the TiddlyWiki group and tweeted Osmosoft to
ask politely what's going on.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy, Eric,

 The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down.
 ... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible
 anymore.

 This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups
 and I actually don't know what I should think about it.
 Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more
 info / feedback [1].

 --- I did remove this section from the post -

 here may be dragons

  and replaced it:

 I really have to say: Osmosoft ... communication with the community is
 __not__ your strength!

 have fun!
 mario

 [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlyspace/xlWNT7iBbts/KcMEw6GD1V0J

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Does this filter works with 
regular expressions? I expect this expression to remove everything but the 
last word afther the last /

([^\/]+\/)*


El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 16:43:03 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

  I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the 
 list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
 filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
 without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

 Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers 
 untouched:

 [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]

 The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and 
 removes it.

 The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not 
 have the prefix.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy





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 javascript: wrote:

 I think I answered too early.

 I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list 
 if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
 filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
 without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 Yes! Exactly that.

 Thank you.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina 
 escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing 
 tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but 
 removing everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the 
 key.

 Regards.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 is about to start.

Watch or post questions at:

https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

Or join in at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfiQ9lNnwqTWAHPqFgU-sCxKTQ-tfQCQsOdXPIh3nngEpPKAg

Best wishes

Jeremy

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 You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select
 the QA app, as shown below.


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

 Does this filter works with regular expressions?

You need to use the regexp filter operator use regexps; the other filters
don't accept regexp operands.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 Thank you very much for your explanation. Does this filter works with
 regular expressions? I expect this expression to remove everything but the
 last word afther the last /

 ([^\/]+\/)*


 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 16:43:03 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

  I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the
 list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
 filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
 without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

 Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers
 untouched:

 [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]

 The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and
 removes it.

 The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not
 have the prefix.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy





 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I think I answered too early.

 I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the
 list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
 filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
 without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 Yes! Exactly that.

 Thank you.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina
 escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing
 tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but
 removing everything before the last /. Seems easy but I can't find the
 key.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


 Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers 
 untouched:

 [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]

 The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and 
 removes it.

 The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not 
 have the prefix.


Hello Jeremy. I expected the second filter to only select the tiddlers 
within the subselection of the first part of the filter. My filter is 
selecting all the tiddlers that does not have that prefix otherwhise. The 
problem is that I'm using variables and I'm not sure how to close the filter

[tagcurrentTiddlerremoveprefixprefix] [!prefixprefix] 

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[tw] List display issue in Firefox

2014-11-04 Thread johnrobert
About three weeks ago, all of my lists, at all levels,  lost all of their 
various bullets and substituted roman numerals.

If I type an unordered list::

* list item one
** sublist item one
** sublist item two

It displays as:

1. list item one
 1.  sublist item one
 2.  sublist item two


Ordered lists display the same way. I no longer get lower-case letters for 
my second level, just roman numerals starting over.

Chrome still displays my lists correctly, but I can't save tiddlers in 
Chrome.

Has anyone else encountered this, or have any ideas about avenues I can 
explore. I'm using Firefox 33 in Ubuntu 14.04.1.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


 You need to use the regexp filter operator use regexps; the other filters 
 don't accept regexp operands.


But it does not removes text, so is not useful for this case. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

2014-11-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I ended up using it this way

$list filter=[tagcurrentTiddlerremoveprefixprefix] 
[tagcurrentTiddler!prefixprefix]

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[tw] Re: List display issue in Firefox

2014-11-04 Thread BJ
hi Johnrobert,
I have ff33 and xubuntu 14.04.1 and don't see this issue with tiddlywiki 
version 5.1.4 - what version are you using?


On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:02:15 PM UTC, johnrobert wrote:

 About three weeks ago, all of my lists, at all levels,  lost all of their 
 various bullets and substituted roman numerals.

 If I type an unordered list::

 * list item one
 ** sublist item one
 ** sublist item two

 It displays as:

 1. list item one
  1.  sublist item one
  2.  sublist item two


 Ordered lists display the same way. I no longer get lower-case letters for 
 my second level, just roman numerals starting over.

 Chrome still displays my lists correctly, but I can't save tiddlers in 
 Chrome.

 Has anyone else encountered this, or have any ideas about avenues I can 
 explore. I'm using Firefox 33 in Ubuntu 14.04.1.

 Thanks for any help!


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2014-11-04 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
I'm going to be transporting my stand alone tiddlywiki and I want to know what 
I can remove to leave a barebones file. Since I still want to be able to use 
the upgrade mechanism I have been removing text from tiddlers and tagging them 
as deleted so they don't come back in when I upgrade but I am worried I might 
break something. Is there a list of barebones tiddlers? I wish I could see a 
graphical relationship of variables, classes, messages, tags, etc.




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[tw] [TW5] What are the barebones tiddlers

2014-11-04 Thread andrew.j.harrison84

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andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com wrote:I'm going to be transporting my stand 
alone tiddlywiki and I want to know what I can remove to leave a barebones 
file. Since I still want to be able to use the upgrade mechanism I have been 
removing text from tiddlers and tagging them as deleted so they don't come back 
in when I upgrade but I am worried I might break something. Is there a list of 
barebones tiddlers? I wish I could see a graphical relationship of variables, 
classes, messages, tags, etc.




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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 22:28:03 UTC+1, Gabriel Franklin a écrit :

 I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
 one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
 and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.


Hi, do you try with t 

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

2014-11-04 Thread Daniel Baird
On 4 November 2014 23:20, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy, Eric,

 The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down.
 ... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible
 anymore.

 This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups
 and I actually don't know what I should think about it.
 Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more
 info / feedback [1].



That might be my fault, i used the word axing when I wondered out loud
why they might be looking for examples of use.  Then later Mat said
something about worrying about it disappearing.. probably not the tone
Osmosoft imagined when they decided to start a thread where people show off
their awesome TSpaces.

;D


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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:21:11 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin a écrit :



 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 22:28:03 UTC+1, Gabriel Franklin a écrit :

 I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized 
 under one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub 
 categories, and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.



Sorry, keyboard shortcut !

Do you have try with  tag ? I think you can organized tiddler to have 
categories and sub categories.

Or want do you mean by categories ?


Sylvain

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hi, you can read post title *Newbie with questions :)*, there some 
information that can help you :)

Cheers,

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Birthe C
Hi Gabriel
Maybe I misunderstand what you are looking for. But my bet would be to have 
a look at http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro. Having a Contents 
tab in the sidebar and use the new here button when taking notes, really 
brings us a long way, I feel.

Birthe


Den tirsdag den 4. november 2014 22.28.03 UTC+1 skrev Gabriel Franklin:

 Hi!

 I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
 one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
 and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.

 I tried building one myself, but having mental blocks (due to my 
 disability) and not getting anywhere.

 Looking for help.
  
 Might you have one that fits this description that you can share with me?

 Can I appeal to you to build me one?

 Thanks


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step I 
am missing?

On Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20:56 PM UTC+11, Ton Gerner wrote:

 Hi Suzanne,

 Yes for TiddlySpot you need to use Chrome for the *first* upload.

 For the Readonly plugin:
 After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
 instructions.

 If these instructions are not clear, just ask.

 Cheers,

 Ton





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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Gabriel Franklin
Thanks for all the pointers. It doesn't resolve my problem as I am 
currently mentally unable to to process the information. I have tried, but 
the more I push, I pay a price.

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:28:03 PM UTC-5, Gabriel Franklin wrote:

 Hi!

 I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
 one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
 and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.

 I tried building one myself, but having mental blocks (due to my 
 disability) and not getting anywhere.

 Looking for help.
  
 Might you have one that fits this description that you can share with me?

 Can I appeal to you to build me one?

 Thanks


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[tw] Drag Drop External File/Attachment linking

2014-11-04 Thread Blake Blacksmith
Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a 
file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a 
way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have 
it expressed as a local file link? 

For clarity here is an example:

I have a TW in folder *Wiki* and an image in *Wiki/images/*. Could we 
make is so that when we drag and drop the image *Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg* 
into a text area TW checks that the file is within its folder (in this case 
in Wiki) and if it is have the relative link text 
*[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not have the 
absolute link text show up *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*


Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time 
consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do 
not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a 
plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note 
taking.


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[tw] Re: List display issue in Firefox

2014-11-04 Thread Stephan Hradek




Did you try it on tiddlywiki.com? The below is what I get there:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wHbnaA6sXO0/VFnGwD65X_I/APk/qw5mx1JsBTU/s1600/TiddlyWiki%2B%E2%80%94%2Ba%2Bnon-linear%2Bpersonal%2Bweb%2Bnotebook_2014-11-05_07-41-34.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wHbnaA6sXO0/VFnGwD65X_I/APk/qw5mx1JsBTU/s1600/TiddlyWiki%2B%E2%80%94%2Ba%2Bnon-linear%2Bpersonal%2Bweb%2Bnotebook_2014-11-05_07-41-34.png





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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :

 I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
 the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
 browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
 again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
 I am missing?


Hi Suzanne,

*uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
 seemed to work*


If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
(or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
then upload your file. 

Du you try on your desktop ?

Cheers,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
Hi Sylvain,
I did as you suggested (change settings locally, then upload) and that 
seems to have worked! So that issue is solved, I hope :)

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:43:49 PM UTC+11, Sylvain Naudin wrote:



 Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :

 I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
 the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
 browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
 again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
 I am missing?


 Hi Suzanne,

 *uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
 seemed to work*


 If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
 (or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
 then upload your file. 

 Du you try on your desktop ?

 Cheers,
 Sylvain


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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

2014-11-04 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2014 05:52:39 UTC+1 schrieb Gabriel Franklin:

 Thanks for all the pointers. It doesn't resolve my problem as I am 
 currently mentally unable to to process the information. I have tried, but 
 the more I push, I pay a price.

 Are you mentally able to tell us what you think a category, sub 
category and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category is for YOU?

To me all of these are simply a matter of interpretation. So if I say tag 
A is a category and tag 1 is a sub category, I already have my category 
and sub category. No need to program anything.

The only thing I might like to do is, for example, define that my (sub) 
categories appear in different shades of blue (or any other color) 
depending on the level of the category. So I would go and create a tiddler 
for every category and add the field color.

That's it.

Now please try to explain your view on categories.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
Thumbnail images - mixing HTML with TW syntax works to link to an outside 
image - a href=images/image.png[img[image.png]]/a

On Friday, October 31, 2014 7:04:46 PM UTC+11, Suzanne McHale wrote:

 Thanks for replying!

 HTML: oh good, that will save me a lot of work!

 Images: I'll try with HTML syntax and see how that goes.

 I have an account on Tiddlyspot, and am getting that error 
 (Error:NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI: 
 Access to restricted URI denied) when saving on my local copy as 
 described in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, so I guess 
 I will have to install Chrome :-/ Otherwise I have managed to import my 
 local one at least!

 On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:29:57 PM UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:




 I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
 have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
 self-contained.


 Welcome to the community!
  


- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the 
 thought 
of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.

 It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
  


- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to 
an external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
seem to work in TW5.

 Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
 with images, better wait for others to reply.
  


- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? 
The lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would 
like to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but 
 only 
I can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it 
 was 
password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
 read 
by others). I have installed the plugin from 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
implement it.

 If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password 
 protected. Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the 
 changes. To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for 
 me to try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful 
 when helping them in fixing stuff.



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