Re: [tw] Tiddywiki For Academia & Business

[Alex Hough]

Dear All,

Its interesting to see the focus on Academia and Business here. TW is a
personal non-linear notebook at a high level of abstraction, considering it
a tool for research is useful.  The more academic and business related use
cases the better. One of the problems I had when working at a business
school (academic and business) was that the people i was working with
thought i was armed with a fun technology for a "dabbler" : serious people
would use Powerpoint, Word and Excels for day to day tasks, while
specialist annotating tools would be used for annotating and coding video
and audio recordings.

Alex

On 4 November 2014 06:52, Stephan Hradek  wrote:

>
>
> Am Dienstag, 4. November 2014 07:46:22 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:04:59 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I do plan to port reveal.js to TW5 at some point:
>>>
>>> http://lab.hakim.se/reveal-js/#/
>>>
>>
>> I think having impress [1] would be much more impressive :)
>> -m
>>
>> [1] http://bartaz.github.io/impress.js
>>
>
> Impressive it is.
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Re: [tw] Looking for a way to list the 10 tiddlers with the oldest "lastOpened" date (if there is such a thing)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Steve

If the underlying goal is to track information about how much attention has
been paid to a tiddler I think we can do a bit better than a "last opened"
date for each tiddler. The trouble with a "last opened" date is that the
most recent datum hides all the preceding ones. If I have a tiddler A and a
tiddler B, and tiddler A is consulted 1,000 times, and then tiddler B is
consulted a single time, we wouldn't be able to distinguish the popularity
of tiddler A.

The TW core already tracks the "history list", which is a list of the
tiddlers that have been navigated to in sequence. You can see it by opening
"$:/HistoryList". So, if someone were repeatedly accessing the same tiddler
there would be one entry in the history list for each navigation. As things
stand, the history list is not saved or synced, so it only persists for a
single session of using TiddlyWiki. If that were changed you could track
the history lists of all your users, and analyse them to get much richer
insights into usage.

Best wishes

Jeremy.






On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, steve  wrote:

> Jeremy
>
> Here is my probably overly simplistic view of how a "last opened" field
> could function.
>
> What I was  thinking of was that "last opened" means the last time that
> the tiddler was drawn on the screen by any user of the wiki (if there were
> multiple users). Perhaps a "last drawn on the screen" timestamp would be
> more to the point. As far as my "tiddler curation" use case goes a viewing
> by anybody could be interpreted as an indicator of "recent interest". If a
> tiddler was to be scrolled into view I think that they would have had to be
> drawn on the screen first. If I had viewed a tiddler but not saved it, I
> would imagine that some sort of a timestamp field would be updated. As an
> approximate measure of reader interest I think that a single timestamp
> could be sufficient.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Thanks
> Steve Wharton
>
> On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:06:27 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Danielo
>>
>> In my opinion last opened time should be recorded in a different toddler
>>> (a config tiddler) and should be managed by the link widget. This is not an
>>> easy task for a plugin developer since it is not easy to extend the link
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>
>> I think it would actually need to be done in the navigator widget. The
>> way to handle things like this is for the core to add extension mechanisms;
>> in this case the navigation handling could be extended to forward a
>> "tm-has-navigated" message. Then a plugin could trap that message in a
>> handler on the root widget.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
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Re: [tw] Questions about Transclusion

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Blake

You'll see that error if you view the template. It occurs because when the
template is viewed directly, the current tiddler will be the template
itself. That means that `{{!!text}}` would attempt to view the content of
the tiddler recursively. Hence the warning.

But don't worry, just close the template tiddler and try
the {{HelloThere||myTemplate}} part.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Blake Blacksmith 
wrote:

> For some reason the "{{!!text}}" in
>
> ! <$view field="title"/>
>> {{!!text}}
>
>
> Causes a transclusion error:
> Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget
>
> Although the function still works to transclude my tiddlers. I just wanted
> to let you know. I can still use the template you provided so thanks!
>
> -Blake
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Blake
>>
>> Is there a way to transclude tiddlers with each transcluded-tiddlers
>>> title as a header?
>>>
>>
>> Create a tiddler called "myTemplate" containing:
>>
>> ! <$view field="title"/>
>>
>> {{!!text}}
>>
>> Then you can transclude the tiddler "HelloThere" through that template:
>>
>> {{HelloThere||myTemplate}}
>>
>> You can transclude a list of tiddlers in the same way. Here's
>> transcluding all the tiddlers tagged "Concepts":
>>
>> {{{ [tag[Concepts]] ||myTemplate}}
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Can we transclude all children of a tiddler (ie: for a tag-tiddler) in
>>> one tiddler?
>>>
>>
>> Do you mean all tiddlers that have a particular tag? That's in the
>> example above.
>>
>>
>>> I appreciate any help here. I've been looking for answers to this for a
>>> few days now.
>>>
>>
>> The documentation is still an area of concern. It's very hard to learn
>> TiddlyWiki and we need much better beginners documentation.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

[Jonathan Beunier]

Hi Alberto,

I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
unavailable. Can u give me another links?

Regards,

Jonathan

Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 10:46:12 UTC+2, Alberto Molina a écrit :
>
>
> Have a look at tesis.tiddlyspot.com where I use a hierarchical 
> organisation of contents: authors > books & papers > quotes > comments…
>
> Instead of a custom field, you can use the field list like in that example 
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ypwz055jb44ps2/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%20TW%205.0.12.html
>
>
> Alberto
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[tw] [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello,

I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
titles, but I can't find the way.
Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the key.

Regards.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

[Branimir Braykov]

I could do a show and tell of one of my examples, but that's if I manage to 
join today.

On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:50:01 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 will be tomorrow, Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo
>
> You can post questions for the hangout using the Q&A button on the video 
> preview at the above link.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le lundi 3 novembre 2014 17:12:01 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
>
> El lunes, 3 de noviembre de 2014 13:12:46 UTC+1, Birthe C escribió:
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much. encryptTiddler works now. It looks fine 
>> http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com but importing it into my own wiki I got 
>> a very large button.
>>
> Can you share an example? I would like to analyze why. 
>  
>

Hi Danielo,

I had the same issue about very large button. I just upgrade from your 
wbesite, and now it's OK with the latest version.

Thanks :)

NB : I wondering about to translate the wording "This is an encrypted 
Tiddler". Is there a roadmap to allow that ?


Have a nice day,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Danielo and Matabele, 

I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning your 
discussion, here goes my point of view. 

I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW for 
Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   since the 
core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start from scratch 
with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, without plugins. My 
own policy is not to use plugins unless they are necessary. 

But now I don't know what can be done with maketid and other plugins that is 
not possible with the core alone. And I don't know if it's worth the effort to 
just update them, or to ensure backward compatibility with pre-stable versions 
like mine because I don't want to stay in beta for ever. I would rather prefer 
new plugins that extend 5.1.5 capabilities. 

You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for that! 

Alberto 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Alberto Molina]

FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
> titles, but I can't find the way.
> Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
> everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the key.
>
> Regards.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Yes! Exactly that.

Thank you.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:
>
> FilterOperator: removeprefix ?
>
> Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
>> titles, but I can't find the way.
>> Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
>> everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the key.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>

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[tw] [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello,

I'm pretty sure this have been discussed before, but I can not find the 
thread.

How can I use the text of a tiddler with line breaks as a widget parameter? 
I'm trying the following but I'm getting unexpected token error

<$set name="somename" value={{someTiddler}}>
code goes here.


Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Jonathan,

I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
> unavailable. Can u give me another links?
>

This is a (quasi-)empty public version:

http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/  

and this is my own private version with real contents, if you want to see a 
working example:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp8x48mpr5mi3ma/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%205.0.15.html?dl=0

Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Maybe this is a problem with maketid widget.

Matabelle, do you know if your widget has such problem? I see that 
tiddlywiki for scholars uses line breaks, but I don't understand why it 
does not work for me.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:54:31 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm pretty sure this have been discussed before, but I can not find the 
> thread.
>
> How can I use the text of a tiddler with line breaks as a widget 
> parameter? I'm trying the following but I'm getting unexpected token error
>
> <$set name="somename" value={{someTiddler}}>
> code goes here.
> 
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Jeremy,
 

> https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo
>
> You can post questions for the hangout using the Q&A button on the video 
> preview at the above link.
>

Trying to ask my first question but the Q&A button does nothing but opening 
the tab's (future) video with nothing where to ask the questions. Here it 
goes:

When I drag & drop an image file from my desktop to TW, it gets fully 
imported. 
When I do the same from a web page to TW, it just creates a link.
Why not let the user choose, in both cases, if he wants only the link or a 
full import ?

My usecase is the following, for preparing teaching materials for History 
of Arts, I need a lot of pictures. Some of them are already in my computer, 
others need to be taken from the web. But I want to use them as external 
images. The ideal situation, for that usecase, would be the drag & drop 
import process creating an external image tiddler.

Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

The error is much more concise in firefox:

SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 1 
column 13 of the JSON data

Why?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Branimir

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Branimir Braykov  wrote:

> I could do a show and tell of one of my examples, but that's if I manage
> to join today.
>

That would be great, please do - I hope you can make it,

Best wishes

Jeremy


>
>
> On Monday, November 3, 2014 5:50:01 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 will be tomorrow, Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo
>>
>> You can post questions for the hangout using the Q&A button on the video
>> preview at the above link.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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[tw] Re: Newbie with questions :)

[Jonathan Beunier]

Thanks for fast response.

Tiddlywiki is in french... good for me ;)

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:58:16 UTC+1, Alberto Molina a écrit :
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm interested by this kind of structure but your dropbox's file is 
>> unavailable. Can u give me another links?
>>
>
> This is a (quasi-)empty public version:
>
> http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/  
>
> and this is my own private version with real contents, if you want to see 
> a working example:
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jp8x48mpr5mi3ma/Apuntes%20diversos%20-%205.0.15.html?dl=0
>
> Alberto
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Alberto

Google seem to have changed things around again.

You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select the
Q&A app, as shown below.

Many thanks

Jeremy



[image: Inline image 1]

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Alberto Molina 
wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo
>>
>> You can post questions for the hangout using the Q&A button on the video
>> preview at the above link.
>>
>
> Trying to ask my first question but the Q&A button does nothing but
> opening the tab's (future) video with nothing where to ask the questions.
> Here it goes:
>
> When I drag & drop an image file from my desktop to TW, it gets fully
> imported.
> When I do the same from a web page to TW, it just creates a link.
> Why not let the user choose, in both cases, if he wants only the link or a
> full import ?
>
> My usecase is the following, for preparing teaching materials for History
> of Arts, I need a lot of pictures. Some of them are already in my computer,
> others need to be taken from the web. But I want to use them as external
> images. The ideal situation, for that usecase, would be the drag & drop
> import process creating an external image tiddler.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can
you put up a minimal test case?

Best wishes

Jeremy


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> The error is much more concise in firefox:
>
> SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 1
> column 13 of the JSON data
>
> Why?
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

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>
> You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select 
> the Q&A app, as shown below.


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello,

I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive 
the following string:

 "{"text":"Now↵Try 
↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title"

Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
The code that fails is like this

// Make the clone of the template
 var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
 debugger;
 var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
 var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);

The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string with 
those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences should 
return \n instead?

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can 
> you put up a minimal test case?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez  > wrote:
>
>> The error is much more concise in firefox:
>>
>> SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line 
>> 1 column 13 of the JSON data
>>
>> Why?
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope
for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON
needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the
variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much
better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.

Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that
comes out of substituteVariableReferences?

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
> After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive
> the following string:
>
>  "{"text":"Now↵Try
> ↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title"
>
> Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
> The code that fails is like this
>
> // Make the clone of the template
>  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
>  debugger;
>  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
>  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);
>
> The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string with
> those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences should
> return \n instead?
>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>
>> Hi Danielo
>>
>> There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can
>> you put up a minimal test case?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The error is much more concise in firefox:
>>>
>>> SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at line
>>> 1 column 13 of the JSON data
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy,

I'm just using the maketid widget from Matabelle,which is based on Stephans 
widget.
Let me know if what I posted below is what you asked

   1. 
   2. make: 
   
"{"text":"$(code)$","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title":"_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate","modified":"20141031075025632","created":"20141031074930842","comments":"$(comments)$"}"
   3. makeClone: undefined
   4. modificationField: undefined
   5. newtags: undefined
   6. t: undefined
   7. tempTest: "{"text":"Now↵Try 
   
↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title":"_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate","modified":"20141031075025632","created":"20141031074930842","comments":"no"}"
   8. 


El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:58:53 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope 
> for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON 
> needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the 
> variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much 
> better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.
>
> Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that 
> comes out of substituteVariableReferences?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
>> After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will receive 
>> the following string:
>>
>>  "{"text":"Now↵Try 
>> ↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title"
>>
>> Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
>> The code that fails is like this
>>
>> // Make the clone of the template
>>  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
>>  debugger;
>>  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
>>  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);
>>
>> The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string 
>> with those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences 
>> should return \n instead?
>>
>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi Danielo
>>>
>>> There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above. Can 
>>> you put up a minimal test case?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Danielo Rodríguez  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The error is much more concise in firefox:

 SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at 
 line 1 column 13 of the JSON data

 Why?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy,

The result was copied in a weird way. If you leave the mouse over a text 
for a second you can see the whole text.

Regards.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

Yes, it's the unencoded line breaks that look like the problem. JSON
requires line breaks in strings to be encoded to `\n`, while you've got
literal line breaks in there.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:

> Hello Jeremy,
>
> I'm just using the maketid widget from Matabelle,which is based on
> Stephans widget.
> Let me know if what I posted below is what you asked
>
>1.
>2. make:
>
> "{"text":"$(code)$","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title":"_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate","modified":"20141031075025632","created":"20141031074930842","comments":"$(comments)$"}"
>3. makeClone: undefined
>4. modificationField: undefined
>5. newtags: undefined
>6. t: undefined
>7. tempTest: "{"text":"Now↵Try
>
> ↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/vnd.tiddlywiki","title":"_ipx/templates/insertCode/codeTemplate","modified":"20141031075025632","created":"20141031074930842","comments":"no"}"
>8.
>
>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:58:53 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>
>> Hi Danielo
>>
>> I don't think that that code is a great approach. There's too much scope
>> for variable substitution to break the JSON formatting. In particular, JSON
>> needs string constants to be encoded if they include double quotes, and the
>> variable substitution mechanism isn't capable of that. It would be much
>> better to apply variable substitution to each field in turn.
>>
>> Can you log the complete original JSON string as well as the value that
>> comes out of substituteVariableReferences?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Danielo Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I traced down the code and the problem is on the JSON.parse part.
>>> After the substituteVariableReferences execution, JSON.parse will
>>> receive the following string:
>>>
>>>  "{"text":"Now↵Try ↵LB","bag":"default","revision":"0","type":"text/
>>> vnd.tiddlywiki","title"
>>>
>>> Which does not seems to be a valid JSON string.
>>> The code that fails is like this
>>>
>>> // Make the clone of the template
>>>  var make = this.wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(this.maketidTemplate);
>>>  debugger;
>>>  var tempTest =this.substituteVariableReferences(make);
>>>  var makeClone = JSON.parse(tempTest);
>>>
>>> The problem is that substituteVariableReferences returns that string
>>> with those unexpected characters. Maybe the substituteVariableReferences
>>> should return \n instead?
>>>
>>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 12:38:07 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 There's no problem that I can see with the snippet you posted above.
 Can you put up a minimal test case?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 wrote:

> The error is much more concise in firefox:
>
> SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad control character in string literal at
> line 1 column 13 of the JSON data
>
> Why?
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:04:11 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> Yes, it's the unencoded line breaks that look like the problem. JSON 
> requires line breaks in strings to be encoded to `\n`, while you've got 
> literal line breaks in there.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line breaks? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line breaks?
>

Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of
macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that
include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The
code you're using is broken I'm afraid.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I'm afraid too.

What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line 
>> breaks? 
>>
>
> Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of 
> macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that 
> include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The 
> code you're using is broken I'm afraid.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?
>

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Perhaps you can share more of
the context?

Best wishes

Jeremy


>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>
>> Hi Danielo
>>
>> Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line
>>> breaks?
>>>
>>
>> Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of
>> macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that
>> include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The
>> code you're using is broken I'm afraid.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] transclusion with line breaks as widget parameter.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy,

Don't worry.
After knowing that substitute variables behaves as expected I will go with 
a different implementation. I never been very fan of this flow (is not my 
plugin) so I think I will change the widget to go through a different 
approach.

Regards.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:38:19 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> What can I use as an alternative? How can I iterate over all the variables?
>>
>
> I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. Perhaps you can share more of 
> the context?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>  
>
>>
>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 13:07:46 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi Danielo
>>>
>>> Hello Jeremy. Why is substituteVariableReferences not encoding line 
 breaks? 

>>>
>>> Why would it? substituteVariableReferences for processing the values of 
>>> macros before they are processed. We need to be able to create macros that 
>>> include line breaks. The need to encode line breaks is a JSON thing. The 
>>> code you're using is broken I'm afraid.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:30:38 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo and Matabele, 
>
> I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning 
> your discussion, here goes my point of view.
>

Glad to see you again. 

> I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW 
> for Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   
> since the core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start 
> from scratch with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, 
> without plugins. My own policy is not to use plugins unless they are 
> necessary.
>
At this point, there some things that can not be done with just the core, 
like creating tiddlers silently. The set widget will get unnecessary on 
5.1.5, so maybe you are right and it does not deserves the effort.
 

> You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for 
> that! 
>
> Alberto
>

You're welcome. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Matabelle,

Reviewing your plugin code again I found some unnecessary steps and some 
things that may break the widget stability. If you have any github repo 
maybe I can state those things there.

Regards. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #66 on Tuesday 28th October at 4pm GMT

[PMario]

annotations: http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2014-10-28-TW-hangout-66
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoZzqu7tYg

have fun!
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #66 on Tuesday 28th October at 4pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Mario, much appreciated.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:05 PM, PMario  wrote:

> annotations: http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2014-10-28-TW-hangout-66
> video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoZzqu7tYg
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
> Hi Danielo,
>
> I had the same issue about very large button. I just upgrade from your 
> wbesite, and now it's OK with the latest version.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> So if it is working for you at the end right?

 

> NB : I wondering about to translate the wording "This is an encrypted 
> Tiddler". Is there a roadmap to allow that ?
>
>
> Have a nice day,
> Sylvain
>

I'm not very familiar with the language mechanism of tiddliwiky. I just 
copied some core elements for those new widgets I created, but I'm not sure 
if that will work. Anyway, anyone can help me since the code is public on 
github:

https://github.com/danielo515/TIddlywiki5-EncryptTiddlerPlugin

If you have experience with translation with TW maybe you can point what is 
missed on my plugin to allow it. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

[PMario]

Hi Jeremy, Eric,

The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down. 
... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible 
anymore. 

This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups 
and I actually don't know what I should think about it. 
Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more 
info / feedback [1]. 

--- I did remove this section from the post -

here may be dragons

 and replaced it:

I really have to say: "Osmosoft ... communication with the community is 
__not__ your strength!"

have fun!
mario

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlyspace/xlWNT7iBbts/KcMEw6GD1V0J

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Re: [tw] Re: Briefcase Plugin -- a GTD tool

[Stratos Laspas]

Very good work, Roma, please keep it up! 
I wish you guys, David Szego and you, could exchange ideas on the project, 
as David has already done some excellent work on expanding mGSD 
capabilities on the previous platform.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:05:35 PM UTC+2, Roma Hicks wrote:
>
> Hey Dan, yeah I let that domain expire but progress is slowly cranking 
> forward on my plugin.  I meant to update the new link but had a bunch of 
> professional commitments get in the way of actually updating.
>
> For now my version 0.2b can be grabbed here.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bydfk9tNRJHBc3FvclFBMzRreTQ&authuser=0
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Danielo Rodríguez  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The domain 
>> http://romahicks.com/example.html
>>
>> has expired. Where can I get the latest version of this fantastic TW?
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

[Matabele]

Hi Alberto

The consensus appears to favour abandoning backward compatibility -- 
especially as the functionality of several of the widgets have to some 
extent been duplicated with action widgets in the core.

I think I shall update the widgets 'as is' to be compatible with version 
5.1.x -- then, as deficiencies in the functionality of action widgets 
become apparent, I can modify them accordingly to cover any needed 
functionality.

There is always more than one way to skin a cat :-)

regards

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:30:38 PM UTC+2, Alberto Molina wrote:
>
> Hi Danielo and Matabele, 
>
> I've been out of TW for the last weeks because I had no time. Concerning 
> your discussion, here goes my point of view. 
>
> I enjoyed and used a lot Danielo's and Matabele's plugins, but since my TW 
> for Scholars is outdated and all my own code needs to be revised, and   
> since the core now affords complex actions with buttons, I'm going to start 
> from scratch with tw's stable release and see how far I can go that way, 
> without plugins. My own policy is not to use plugins unless they are 
> necessary. 
>
> But now I don't know what can be done with maketid and other plugins that 
> is not possible with the core alone. And I don't know if it's worth the 
> effort to just update them, or to ensure backward compatibility with 
> pre-stable versions like mine because I don't want to stay in beta for 
> ever. I would rather prefer new plugins that extend 5.1.5 capabilities. 
>
> You guys are doing a great job for end users like me. Thanks again for 
> that! 
>
> Alberto 
>
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Re: [tw] Looking for a way to list the 10 tiddlers with the oldest "lastOpened" date (if there is such a thing)

[steve]

Jeremy

I agree that showing navigation frequency over time would be a more useful 
measure of attention/interest in a tiddler. Perhaps an "Navigation History" 
tiddler could be derived from an analysis of the history files. These 
results could be sorted and displayed perhaps as a histogram.

Steve Wharton

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:40:13 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Steve
>
> If the underlying goal is to track information about how much attention 
> has been paid to a tiddler I think we can do a bit better than a "last 
> opened" date for each tiddler. The trouble with a "last opened" date is 
> that the most recent datum hides all the preceding ones. If I have a 
> tiddler A and a tiddler B, and tiddler A is consulted 1,000 times, and then 
> tiddler B is consulted a single time, we wouldn't be able to distinguish 
> the popularity of tiddler A.
>
> The TW core already tracks the "history list", which is a list of the 
> tiddlers that have been navigated to in sequence. You can see it by opening 
> "$:/HistoryList". So, if someone were repeatedly accessing the same tiddler 
> there would be one entry in the history list for each navigation. As things 
> stand, the history list is not saved or synced, so it only persists for a 
> single session of using TiddlyWiki. If that were changed you could track 
> the history lists of all your users, and analyse them to get much richer 
> insights into usage.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, steve > 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> Here is my probably overly simplistic view of how a "last opened" field 
>> could function. 
>>
>> What I was  thinking of was that "last opened" means the last time that 
>> the tiddler was drawn on the screen by any user of the wiki (if there were 
>> multiple users). Perhaps a "last drawn on the screen" timestamp would be 
>> more to the point. As far as my "tiddler curation" use case goes a viewing 
>> by anybody could be interpreted as an indicator of "recent interest". If a 
>> tiddler was to be scrolled into view I think that they would have had to be 
>> drawn on the screen first. If I had viewed a tiddler but not saved it, I 
>> would imagine that some sort of a timestamp field would be updated. As an 
>> approximate measure of reader interest I think that a single timestamp 
>> could be sufficient. 
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve Wharton
>>
>> On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:06:27 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Danielo
>>>
>>> In my opinion last opened time should be recorded in a different toddler 
 (a config tiddler) and should be managed by the link widget. This is not 
 an 
 easy task for a plugin developer since it is not easy to extend the link 
 plugin.

>>>
>>> I think it would actually need to be done in the navigator widget. The 
>>> way to handle things like this is for the core to add extension mechanisms; 
>>> in this case the navigation handling could be extended to forward a 
>>> "tm-has-navigated" message. Then a plugin could trap that message in a 
>>> handler on the root widget.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>  
>>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Braintest have been updated to 5.1.4

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 14:14:48 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
>
>> So if it is working for you at the end right?
>


Yes it work, thanks,


 

>
> I'm not very familiar with the language mechanism of tiddliwiky. I just 
> copied some core elements for those new widgets I created, but I'm not sure 
> if that will work. Anyway, anyone can help me since the code is public on 
> github:
>
> https://github.com/danielo515/TIddlywiki5-EncryptTiddlerPlugin
>
> If you have experience with translation with TW maybe you can point what 
> is missed on my plugin to allow it. 
>

No sorry, not yet. For my own need, I'll edit my tiddlywiki I think. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Matabelle maketid widget

[Matabele]

Hi Danielo

I would welcome any suggestions. Unfortunately I don't currently have my 
code on github -- I'll look into it.

regards

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:04:25 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello Matabelle,
>
> Reviewing your plugin code again I found some unnecessary steps and some 
> things that may break the widget stability. If you have any github repo 
> maybe I can state those things there.
>
> Regards. 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I think I answered too early.

I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list 
if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:
>
> Yes! Exactly that.
>
> Thank you.
>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:
>>
>> FilterOperator: removeprefix ?
>>
>> Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing tiddler 
>>> titles, but I can't find the way.
>>> Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing 
>>> everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the key.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

> I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list
if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.

Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers
untouched:

[removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]

The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and
removes it.

The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not
have the prefix.

Best wishes

Jeremy





On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:

> I think I answered too early.
>
> I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list
> if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
> filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
> without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.
>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez
> escribió:
>
>> Yes! Exactly that.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina escribió:
>>>
>>> FilterOperator: removeprefix ?
>>>
>>> Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Hello,

 I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing
 tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
 Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but removing
 everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the key.

 Regards.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

[Jeremy Ruston]

I've unpinned this topic from the TiddlyWiki group and tweeted Osmosoft to
ask politely what's going on.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Jeremy, Eric,
>
> The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down.
> ... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible
> anymore.
>
> This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups
> and I actually don't know what I should think about it.
> Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more
> info / feedback [1].
>
> --- I did remove this section from the post -
>
> here may be dragons
>
>  and replaced it:
>
> I really have to say: "Osmosoft ... communication with the community is
> __not__ your strength!"
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlyspace/xlWNT7iBbts/KcMEw6GD1V0J
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Does this filter works with 
regular expressions? I expect this expression to remove everything but the 
last word afther the last /

([^\/]+\/)*


El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 16:43:03 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> > I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the 
> list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
> filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
> without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.
>
> Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers 
> untouched:
>
> [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]
>
> The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and 
> removes it.
>
> The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not 
> have the prefix.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Danielo Rodríguez  > wrote:
>
>> I think I answered too early.
>>
>> I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the list 
>> if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix 
>> filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title 
>> without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.
>>
>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Yes! Exactly that.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina 
>>> escribió:

 FilterOperator: removeprefix ?

 Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing 
> tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
> Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but 
> removing everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the 
> key.
>
> Regards.
>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 on Tuesday 4th November at 4pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

TiddlyWiki Hangout #67 is about to start.

Watch or post questions at:

https://plus.google.com/events/c56iifeavm3806arbc2gu5nu9jo

Or join in at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfiQ9lNnwqTWAHPqFgU-sCxKTQ-tfQCQsOdXPIh3nngEpPKAg

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alberto Molina 
wrote:

> You need to click on the icon that is a grid of 9 dots, and then select
>> the Q&A app, as shown below.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

> Does this filter works with regular expressions?

You need to use the regexp filter operator use regexps; the other filters
don't accept regexp operands.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Danielo Rodríguez 
wrote:

> Hello Jeremy,
>
> Thank you very much for your explanation. Does this filter works with
> regular expressions? I expect this expression to remove everything but the
> last word afther the last /
>
> ([^\/]+\/)*
>
>
> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 16:43:03 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>>
>> Hi Danielo
>>
>> > I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the
>> list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
>> filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
>> without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.
>>
>> Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers
>> untouched:
>>
>> [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]
>>
>> The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and
>> removes it.
>>
>> The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not
>> have the prefix.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Danielo Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think I answered too early.
>>>
>>> I don't understand why the filter removes the whole tiddler from the
>>> list if it does not match the prefix. For that purpose there is the prefix
>>> filter, so I don't understand why it does not returns just the title
>>> without the prefix and unchanged title otherwise.
>>>
>>> El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:51:52 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez
>>> escribió:
>>>
 Yes! Exactly that.

 Thank you.

 El martes, 4 de noviembre de 2014 11:46:17 UTC+1, Alberto Molina
 escribió:
>
> FilterOperator: removeprefix ?
>
> Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 11:07:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I though it was possible to remove certain prefixes when listing
>> tiddler titles, but I can't find the way.
>> Basically I want to list all the tiddlers with certain tag but
>> removing everything before the last "/". Seems easy but I can't find the
>> key.
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
> Here's how to remove a prefixes while leaving non-matching tiddlers 
> untouched:
>
> [removeprefix[theprefix]] [!prefix[theprefix]]
>
> The first operator selects the input tiddlers that have the prefix, and 
> removes it.
>
> The second operator adds to the selection the input tiddlers that do not 
> have the prefix.
>

Hello Jeremy. I expected the second filter to only select the tiddlers 
within the subselection of the first part of the filter. My filter is 
selecting all the tiddlers that does not have that prefix otherwhise. The 
problem is that I'm using variables and I'm not sure how to close the filter

[tagremoveprefix] [!prefix] 

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[tw] List display issue in Firefox

[johnrobert]

About three weeks ago, all of my lists, at all levels,  lost all of their 
various bullets and substituted roman numerals.

If I type an unordered list::

* list item one
** sublist item one
** sublist item two

It displays as:

1. list item one
 1.  sublist item one
 2.  sublist item two


Ordered lists display the same way. I no longer get lower-case letters for 
my second level, just roman numerals starting over.

Chrome still displays my lists correctly, but I can't save tiddlers in 
Chrome.

Has anyone else encountered this, or have any ideas about avenues I can 
explore. I'm using Firefox 33 in Ubuntu 14.04.1.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

>
> You need to use the regexp filter operator use regexps; the other filters 
> don't accept regexp operands.
>

But it does not removes text, so is not useful for this case. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Remove prefix from title when displaying

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I ended up using it this way

<$list filter="[tagremoveprefix] 
[tag!prefix]">

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[tw] Re: List display issue in Firefox

[BJ]

hi Johnrobert,
I have ff33 and xubuntu 14.04.1 and don't see this issue with tiddlywiki 
version 5.1.4 - what version are you using?


On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:02:15 PM UTC, johnrobert wrote:
>
> About three weeks ago, all of my lists, at all levels,  lost all of their 
> various bullets and substituted roman numerals.
>
> If I type an unordered list::
>
> * list item one
> ** sublist item one
> ** sublist item two
>
> It displays as:
>
> 1. list item one
>  1.  sublist item one
>  2.  sublist item two
>
>
> Ordered lists display the same way. I no longer get lower-case letters for 
> my second level, just roman numerals starting over.
>
> Chrome still displays my lists correctly, but I can't save tiddlers in 
> Chrome.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this, or have any ideas about avenues I can 
> explore. I'm using Firefox 33 in Ubuntu 14.04.1.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>

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[tw] Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Gabriel Franklin]

Hi!

I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.

I tried building one myself, but having mental blocks (due to my 
disability) and not getting anywhere.

Looking for help.
 
Might you have one that fits this description that you can share with me?

Can I appeal to you to build me one?

Thanks

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[tw]

[andrew.j.harrison84]

I'm going to be transporting my stand alone tiddlywiki and I want to know what 
I can remove to leave a barebones file. Since I still want to be able to use 
the upgrade mechanism I have been removing text from tiddlers and tagging them 
as deleted so they don't come back in when I upgrade but I am worried I might 
break something. Is there a list of barebones tiddlers? I wish I could see a 
graphical relationship of variables, classes, messages, tags, etc.




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[tw] [TW5] What are the barebones tiddlers

[andrew.j.harrison84]

Oops. It went before I put the subject line in.



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch"andrew.j.harrison84" 
 wrote:I'm going to be transporting my stand 
alone tiddlywiki and I want to know what I can remove to leave a barebones 
file. Since I still want to be able to use the upgrade mechanism I have been 
removing text from tiddlers and tagging them as deleted so they don't come back 
in when I upgrade but I am worried I might break something. Is there a list of 
barebones tiddlers? I wish I could see a graphical relationship of variables, 
classes, messages, tags, etc.




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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 22:28:03 UTC+1, Gabriel Franklin a écrit :
>
> I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
> one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
> and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.
>

Hi, do you try with t 

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlySpace related: Time to show off your space!!

[Daniel Baird]

On 4 November 2014 23:20, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Jeremy, Eric,
>
> The linked topic at the TiddlySpace group has been locked down.
> ... So we can remove the sticky flag here, since posting is not possible
> anymore.
>
> This is the first time, I've ever seen a locked topic in the tiddly-groups
> and I actually don't know what I should think about it.
> Especially it was closed down after a user request for a little bit more
> info / feedback [1].
>


That might be my fault, i used the word "axing" when I wondered out loud
why they might be looking for examples of use.  Then later Mat said
something about worrying about it disappearing.. probably not the tone
Osmosoft imagined when they decided to start a thread where people show off
their awesome TSpaces.

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:21:11 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin a écrit :
>
>
>
> Le mardi 4 novembre 2014 22:28:03 UTC+1, Gabriel Franklin a écrit :
>>
>> I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized 
>> under one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub 
>> categories, and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.
>>
>
>
Sorry, keyboard shortcut !

Do you have try with  tag ? I think you can organized tiddler to have 
categories and sub categories.

Or want do you mean by categories ?


Sylvain

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hi, you can read post title "*Newbie with questions :)*", there some 
information that can help you :)

Cheers,

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Birthe C]

Hi Gabriel
Maybe I misunderstand what you are looking for. But my bet would be to have 
a look at http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro. Having a Contents 
tab in the sidebar and use the new here button when taking notes, really 
brings us a long way, I feel.

Birthe


Den tirsdag den 4. november 2014 22.28.03 UTC+1 skrev Gabriel Franklin:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
> one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
> and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.
>
> I tried building one myself, but having mental blocks (due to my 
> disability) and not getting anywhere.
>
> Looking for help.
>  
> Might you have one that fits this description that you can share with me?
>
> Can I appeal to you to build me one?
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

[Suzanne McHale]

I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step I 
am missing?

On Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20:56 PM UTC+11, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Suzanne,
>
> Yes for TiddlySpot you need to use Chrome for the *first* upload.
>
> For the Readonly plugin:
> After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
> instructions.
>
> If these instructions are not clear, just ask.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Gabriel Franklin]

Thanks for all the pointers. It doesn't resolve my problem as I am 
currently mentally unable to to process the information. I have tried, but 
the more I push, I pay a price.

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:28:03 PM UTC-5, Gabriel Franklin wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm looking for a simple TW to keep my notes and clippings organized under 
> one roof. I would prefer one that'll work with categories, sub categories, 
> and possibly a 3rd lvl sub category.
>
> I tried building one myself, but having mental blocks (due to my 
> disability) and not getting anywhere.
>
> Looking for help.
>  
> Might you have one that fits this description that you can share with me?
>
> Can I appeal to you to build me one?
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw] Drag & Drop External File/Attachment linking

[Blake Blacksmith]

Instead of drag and drop being limited to full binary imports of a 
file(which bloats the Wiki and makes editing files cumbersome) is there a 
way to drag and drop a file that is within a TiddlyWiki's folder and have 
it expressed as a local file link? 

For clarity here is an example:

I have a TW in folder "*Wiki*" and an image in "*Wiki/images/*". Could we 
make is so that when we drag and drop the image "*Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg*" 
into a text area TW checks that the file is within its folder (in this case 
in "Wiki") and if it is have the relative link text 
*[[file:./Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]* show up and if it not have the 
absolute link text show up *[[file:/C:/Users/Me/Wiki/images/bunnies.jpg]]*


Right now I am manually inserting relative links but this is very time 
consuming when I must link many files into a Tiddlers text. I currently do 
not have the time to make my own plugin that does this but think such a 
plugin would extend the use-cases of TW to in-the-field/real time  note 
taking.


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[tw] Re: List display issue in Firefox

[Stephan Hradek]

Did you try it on tiddlywiki.com? The below is what I get there:








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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :
>
> I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
> the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
> browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
> again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
> I am missing?
>

Hi Suzanne,

*uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
> seemed to work*
>

If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
(or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
then upload your file. 

Du you try on your desktop ?

Cheers,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

[Suzanne McHale]

Hi Sylvain,
I did as you suggested (change settings locally, then upload) and that 
seems to have worked! So that issue is solved, I hope :)

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:43:49 PM UTC+11, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :
>>
>> I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
>> the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
>> browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
>> again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
>> I am missing?
>>
>
> Hi Suzanne,
>
> *uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
>> seemed to work*
>>
>
> If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
> (or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
> then upload your file. 
>
> Du you try on your desktop ?
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvain
>

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[tw] Re: Simple TW with Categories/Sub Categories

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2014 05:52:39 UTC+1 schrieb Gabriel Franklin:
>
> Thanks for all the pointers. It doesn't resolve my problem as I am 
> currently mentally unable to to process the information. I have tried, but 
> the more I push, I pay a price.
>
> Are you mentally able to tell us what you think a "category", "sub 
category" and "possibly a 3rd lvl sub category" is for YOU?

To me all of these are simply a matter of interpretation. So if I say tag 
"A" is a category and tag "1" is a sub category, I already have my category 
and sub category. No need to program anything.

The only thing I might like to do is, for example, define that my (sub) 
categories appear in different shades of blue (or any other color) 
depending on the level of the category. So I would go and create a tiddler 
for every category and add the field "color".

That's it.

Now please try to explain your view on categories.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

[Suzanne McHale]

Thumbnail images - mixing HTML with TW syntax works to link to an outside 
image - [img[image.png]]

On Friday, October 31, 2014 7:04:46 PM UTC+11, Suzanne McHale wrote:
>
> Thanks for replying!
>
> HTML: oh good, that will save me a lot of work!
>
> Images: I'll try with HTML syntax and see how that goes.
>
> I have an account on Tiddlyspot, and am getting that error 
> (Error:NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI: 
> Access to restricted URI denied) when saving on my local copy as 
> described in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, so I guess 
> I will have to install Chrome :-/ Otherwise I have managed to import my 
> local one at least!
>
> On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:29:57 PM UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
>>> have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
>>> self-contained.
>>>
>>
>> Welcome to the community!
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
>>>nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the 
>>> thought 
>>>of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.
>>>
>>> It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to 
>>>an external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
>>>http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
>>>seem to work in TW5.
>>>
>>> Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
>> with images, better wait for others to reply.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? 
>>>The lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would 
>>>like to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but 
>>> only 
>>>I can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it 
>>> was 
>>>password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
>>> read 
>>>by others). I have installed the plugin from 
>>>http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
>>>implement it.
>>>
>>> If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password 
>> protected. Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the 
>> changes. To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for 
>> me to try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful 
>> when helping them in fixing stuff.
>>
>>

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