[tw] Re: Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Dazzle,

I imported my logo into Tiddly wiki
Created the TopRightBar Tiddler tagged $:/tags/TopRightBar
and after some fiddling referenced my logo with this by placing it in 
TopRightBar

ACPAD[img width=252 class="tc-image" 
[mylogo.png]]


Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Dazzle,

Heres how you can use the memonents them, but remember - content first, you 
can always more the content

Get your own copy of tiddlywiki and go to 
https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/moments.html 

 
Click the Control Panel Cog icon
Select Plugins Tab > Themes
Drag Moments: A little color won't hurt
To your own wiki
Save and reload

Now on your own wiki go to control panel > appearance > Theme and Select 
Moments theme

"Wa la" looks good (PS Thanks for pointing this one out)

Note: The Left hand menu is displaying the sideBar tabs as menu items

See here for how to do 
that https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20add%20a%20new%20tab%20to%20the%20sidebar

Regards
Tony



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[tw] Re: Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Dazzle,

Yes to your first Question "put my content in there and tweak the 
design/layout"

I can give you advice, on your needs, so can the rest of the forum members, 
perhaps ask separately for each feature if no one comes back with an 
existing solution. Do not depend on me too much yet because I will be 
travelling for a month soon.

There are plugins and customisation's that do a lot of what you are asking, 
including switch menu sides. Personally I can picture how to make it look a 
lot like WikiMedia. Personaly I think you should hide the existing sidebar, 
and build your own on the left or from MyMenus 
 or other solutions.

I would solve these by searching the forum, as you can. I will provide more 
info if I have time.

Also using the internal settings can get some of what you ask

   - such as the Control Panel, Appearance > Story View to have a single 
   tiddler open at a time
   - Tabs or breadcrumb plugins to add tabs to the top
   - Using the >> with the sidebar tab to hide it

Of great importance is there are alternatives to the tiddlywiki out of the 
box look from tiles to kanban views, mobile layouts and graphical icons, 
not to mention my own MyMenus plugin I am just about to publish.

The Sky is not the limit with tiddlywiki, Add your content, use wiki links, 
tags and fields to organise your data the best way possible and yes worry 
about the presentation later.

Best Wishes
Tony


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[tw] Re: Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread Dazzle
Thank you very much for your reply!

So you say to begin with I should use the default layout and put my content 
in there and tweak the design/layout in small steps to get used to 
tiddlywikis structure?

But could you give me some advice on how to achieve the look? Would you say 
it is better to move the default sidebar to the left and change the layout 
of it or is it better to hide the default one and create a brand new 
sidebar?
And you said it is only skin deep. Do I need to change the html structure 
or the css elements of tw to achieve this?

But thanks again for your reply!

Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2018 04:27:27 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Dazel,
>
> I believe everything you ask for and a lot more is possible. However it is 
> worthwhile becoming aquanted with tiddlywikis default layout and getting to 
> know what is possible. With a wiki the content is king along with the 
> ability to capture relationships. Tiddlywikis unique structure, 
> customisability and extensibility is superior not to mention the various 
> sharing and hosting options.
>
> The layout and look you ask for is only skin deep and can be achieved.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Dazel,

I believe everything you ask for and a lot more is possible. However it is 
worthwhile becoming aquanted with tiddlywikis default layout and getting to 
know what is possible. With a wiki the content is king along with the ability 
to capture relationships. Tiddlywikis unique structure, customisability and 
extensibility is superior not to mention the various sharing and hosting 
options.

The layout and look you ask for is only skin deep and can be achieved.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: How to: Automatic setting field value if a tiddler has a special tag

2018-01-31 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hey Mark,

YES :-) That works!

THANKS, Surya

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[tw] Re: A new/better way to add/view/edit fields?

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Reluctantly, perhaps,  I have to admit that Fields are really better than 
slices, because you can do filter manipulations on them, and not worry 
about strange regexp behaviors. 

What you can do is create an input template with a drop-down list of 
tiddlers to filter. Then each field can be edited with a <$edit> widget, 
giving it as much space as you need for that particular field. Having a 
little structure in your tiddlers is a good thing if you're going to have 
lot's of tiddlers with a similar data structure. It makes reporting and 
extracting much easier.

-- Mark 

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:35:57 PM UTC-8, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Thanks all for your comments. 
>
> Tony Im looking forward to your work! 
>
> Mark, thanks for pointing me to Thomas' extract. Ill take a look. Also, I 
> need to take a look at "slicing" in TW classic. 
>
> Coda thats an interesting idea of actually using a data tiddler to define 
> fields and their respective sizes for edit fields. 
>
> Personally, I think the most transparent mechanism would just be another 
> text area, perhaps the same size as the text edit area for a normal 
> tiddler, where everything you type in there (as per the format above) will 
> be parsed/interpreted as fields.  
>
> Its really just like when you look at a naked .tid file. Everything is so 
> transparent, tangible and easy to understand. 
>
> Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 4:51:30 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I *see* how powerful fields are. They create a clear division of text 
>> that tiddlywiki knows how to deal with well. However, I *hate* 
>> adding/editting fields. Its cumbersome, and annoying. I would like to 
>> suggest an alternative: a "field" text box that is default collapsed that 
>> works something like a dictionary tiddler (not exactly). Each line is a new 
>> field like:
>>
>> name: field value
>> name2: field val2
>> name3: """ field value with "quotes" and 
>> multiple lines"""
>> name4: etc.
>>
>> This, to me, seems an easier, more intuitive way to view and manipulate 
>> field contents. After all, its all text! *Note: *This is *my* opinion. 
>> Everyone is free to disagree. I would just like to bring up this idea, see 
>> if anyone thinks something like this is incredibly easy, or absolutely 
>> impossible to implement. 
>>
>> If anyone has a different idea, please share!
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[tw] Re: How to: Automatic setting field value if a tiddler has a special tag

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
This seems to work:

\define toc-caption()
<$list filter="[all[current]tag[wichtig]]" variable="dum">@@color:red;<$view 
field="caption"><$view field="title"/>@@
<$list filter="[all[current]tag[RezeptGetested]]" variable="dum">@@color:
green;<$view field="caption"><$view field="title"/>@@
<$list filter="[all[current]tag[RezeptNICHTGetested]]" variable="dum">@
@color:orange;<$view field="caption"><$view field="title"/>@@
<$list filter=
"[all[current]!tag[wichtig]!tag[RezeptNICHTGetested]!tag[RezeptGetested]]" 
variable="dum"><$view field="caption"><$view field="title"/>
\end

Notice I'm using the "tag" operator (which is simpler than regexp). Not 
sure why we were using the regexp operator before.

The problem was the logic. If you stack a bunch of lists like

<$list if tag wichtig> red
<$list if tag ! wichtig> plain
<$list if tag RezeptGetested> green
<$list if tag ! RezeptGetested> plain

Then you can see that there are going to be two list actions for "plain" -- 
so if something is "Red" then it will also be "not Blue", and so there will 
be 2 entries. If you stack 3 sets, then there will always be 3 entries.

The fix was to stack them like:

<$list if tag wichtig> red
<$list if tag RezeptGetested> green
<$list if tag not RezeptGetested AND not wichtig> plain

HTH

-- Mark


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:31:36 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> again here :-)
>
> Now I have the situation, that I want in another wiki to have 3 types of 
> showing tiddlerlinks in the sidebar (shown there with 
> toc-selective-expandable):
>
>
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "wichtig" >they should be shown red in 
>the sidebar.
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptGetested" >they should be shown 
>green in the sidebar.
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptNICHTGetested" >they should be 
>shown orange in the sidebar.
>
> I made it with building 3 different tiddlers, tagged with $:/tags/Macro 
> with 
> \define toc-caption()
> <$list filter="[all[current]regexp:
> tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum">@@color:Coulour;<$view field="caption"><$view 
> field="title"/>@@
> <$list filter="[all[current]!regexp:tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum"><$view 
> field="caption"><$view field="title"/>
> \end
>
> >Of course with the different tags & different coulours
>
>
> And I made it with only 1 tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Macro with the same 
> command (but repeated 3 times- of course with the different tags & 
> different coulours).
>
>
> Both didn't work.
> But it works, if I only make 1 tiddler with 1 tag + 1 coulour.
>
> So, it seems, that, if there are 3 different conditions with resulting 
> coulours, they disturb each other.
>
> How to solve this?
>
> Surya
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2018-01-31 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Josiah

You inspired me to write an FAQ for the next version of bricks – does this 
answer your questions? 
(Well, I know it doesn’t answer all of them as I have one question myself.)

Kind regards
Thomas

===

Frequently Asked Questions

*I miss something, should I post a feature request?*Check two things first: 
a) Does your wish concern the very core of bricks – that would be managing 
CSS for TW5? Some issues might seem related, but are not at their heart. b) 
Is it already present here or in TiddlyWiki itself or in a plugin available 
elswhere? A user asked, if we could make backups so developers could return 
to the previous version if something went wrong. This concerns the subject 
of backups, not CSS. And there are solutions available, e.g. the 
clone-button in the Stylesheet Manager or the official SaveTrail plugin 
. If you are not sure, feel 
free to ask!
*How about the Briks Stylesheets cascade?*The list of Bricks in the 
Stylesheet Manager is alphabetical. That doesn’t say that TW processes them 
in the same order. But it should not be that relevant: Most elements are 
covered in just one or two tiddlers (e.g. one for screen display and one 
for printing). Additionally most definitions use low CSS specificity 
 to avoid 
order problems. So in most cases you will find all relevant definitions in 
the same one tiddler and if you want to change something, the best place to 
do this will be right there. 
*How about the order in generated stylesheets?*The generator processes all 
stylesheets in alphabetical order. As stated above, that should not 
influence the result as I tried to omit redundancy. Definitions that are 
loaded later should not overwrite the ones that were loaded before as they 
cover different elements or different aspects of elements.
*Should tweaks be collected in one additional stylesheet tiddler?*No. It is 
recommended to add tweaks in the stylesheet that covers the element, 
component or function that you want to change. Maybe you invent something 
that could be useful for others and we could offer your solution as an 
alternative or a replacement of an existing Brick. Let me know if you have 
someting that should be in the Bricks library!
*How many stylesheets should I generate?*Just two: one for the dynamic 
parts based on wikilogic and one for all the rest. See Wikilogic Tiddler 
Transformation for details. No need to separate originals from the stuff 
you developed. Just keep your Bricks in your development library so you can 
come back and optimize later if necessary.
*How does the Stylesheet Manager know what tiddlers are Bricks?*It doesn’t. 
It is a stylesheet manager and as such lists all stylesheets tagged 
$:/tags/Stylesheets 
(additionally they must contain the text entered in the search field).
*I'm a bit unclear how I create a NEW SET.*What is a new set?
*Can I start from zero?*You can set all stylesheets to inactive and then 
reactivate one after the other, check and optimize. That’s what I did in 
one of many rounds of optimisation.


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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-31 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:16:56 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> The only thing for me now is the ? tiddler and how to handle backlinks for 
> that tiddler.  (as we discussed previously - Im aware this isnt easy!)
>

*BACKUP FIRST!*

The regexp search has the potential to block the browser tab. So use with 
care!

The following code creates a list of all tiddlers, that contain the text 
fragment sometext|?

<>

The disadvantage is, that it can take a long time, if you have many 
tiddlers, with much text, or at least much text. 

-m 

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:26:22 PM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/  v0.3.1 should play nice 
> with FontAwesome5 now. 
>
> Please test
>



   :)





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[tw] Re: How to: Automatic setting field value if a tiddler has a special tag

2018-01-31 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hello coda coder,

thanks for your answer.


Following the principle that teaching a hungry man to catch fish is better 
> than feeding him a single fish...


Yes, I like that principle and learned a lot by that in my whole life.

But, on the site, you mentioned, it is only written how to style the 
tiddler itself, nothing about "how to style the view in the sidebar of 
certain tiddlers".

Read https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag
>
 
And: What is written on the site, I already know and am able to do things 
like that.
And I know also how to make a tiddlerlink shown in a certain colour in the 
sidebar by tag.


But the problem is 
see my post before...

Surya

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[tw] Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

2018-01-31 Thread Dazzle
Hello there,

im very new to tiddlywiki and I would like to create a personal wiki for a, 
kind of, knowlegde database for my, well, knowledge. But before I start to 
fill it with content, I want to prepare TW5 to my linking, so everything is 
set up from the beginning.
So I have a few question and would be very thankful if you guys could help 
me:
- Is there a way to theme TW5 like a standard/traditional wiki like 
wikipedia for example?
   - I particular:
  - Sidebar on the left with a logo in the header (the Sidebar on the 
right is a bit confusing, I guess I could get used to it but I dont know 
really, it just seems wrong kind of..)
  with different categories to select from and link to various tiddlers
  - a top bar with maybe the toolbar from the sidebar and additional 
links to tiddlers
  - no right Sidebar and the content of the tiddlers should completly 
fill the space that is left (like a regular webpage)

I already looked at TonGerners plugins on http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/ 
and they look very promising but not really what i am looking for (the 
right sidebar is still active and the show/hide function of the left bar 
coupled with the right Sidebar bothers me a bit, still amazing plugins!).
https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/moments.html was also very 
impressing, but i dont know if this is nearly achievable with my level of 
knowledge at the moment (no pun intended).

So i would be really thankful if someone has an idea/suggestion or could 
give me some advice where i have to look to obtain the knowledge to do it 
on my own.

regards Dazzle

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[tw] Re: A new/better way to add/view/edit fields?

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:35:57 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
>
> Personally, I think the most transparent mechanism would just be another 
> text area, perhaps the same size as the text edit area for a normal 
> tiddler, where everything you type in there (as per the format above) will 
> be parsed/interpreted as fields.  
>
> Its really just like when you look at a naked .tid file. Everything is so 
> transparent, tangible and easy to understand. 
>
>
Good point.

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[tw] Re: A new/better way to add/view/edit fields?

2018-01-31 Thread Diego Mesa
Thanks all for your comments. 

Tony Im looking forward to your work! 

Mark, thanks for pointing me to Thomas' extract. Ill take a look. Also, I 
need to take a look at "slicing" in TW classic. 

Coda thats an interesting idea of actually using a data tiddler to define 
fields and their respective sizes for edit fields. 

Personally, I think the most transparent mechanism would just be another 
text area, perhaps the same size as the text edit area for a normal 
tiddler, where everything you type in there (as per the format above) will 
be parsed/interpreted as fields.  

Its really just like when you look at a naked .tid file. Everything is so 
transparent, tangible and easy to understand. 

Diego


On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 4:51:30 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I *see* how powerful fields are. They create a clear division of text 
> that tiddlywiki knows how to deal with well. However, I *hate* 
> adding/editting fields. Its cumbersome, and annoying. I would like to 
> suggest an alternative: a "field" text box that is default collapsed that 
> works something like a dictionary tiddler (not exactly). Each line is a new 
> field like:
>
> name: field value
> name2: field val2
> name3: """ field value with "quotes" and 
> multiple lines"""
> name4: etc.
>
> This, to me, seems an easier, more intuitive way to view and manipulate 
> field contents. After all, its all text! *Note: *This is *my* opinion. 
> Everyone is free to disagree. I would just like to bring up this idea, see 
> if anyone thinks something like this is incredibly easy, or absolutely 
> impossible to implement. 
>
> If anyone has a different idea, please share!
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: How to: Automatic setting field value if a tiddler has a special tag

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder
Following the principle that teaching a hungry man to catch fish is better 
than feeding him a single fish...

You need a stylesheet that uses .tc-tagged-wichtig etc.

Read https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles%20by%20tag

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 1:31:36 PM UTC-6, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> again here :-)
>
> Now I have the situation, that I want in another wiki to have 3 types of 
> showing tiddlerlinks in the sidebar (shown there with 
> toc-selective-expandable):
>
>
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "wichtig" >they should be shown red in 
>the sidebar.
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptGetested" >they should be shown 
>green in the sidebar.
>- Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptNICHTGetested" >they should be 
>shown orange in the sidebar.
>
> I made it with building 3 different tiddlers, tagged with $:/tags/Macro 
> with 
> \define toc-caption()
> <$list filter="[all[current]regexp:
> tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum">@@color:Coulour;<$view field="caption"><$view 
> field="title"/>@@
> <$list filter="[all[current]!regexp:tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum"><$view 
> field="caption"><$view field="title"/>
> \end
>
> >Of course with the different tags & different coulours
>
>
> And I made it with only 1 tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Macro with the same 
> command (but repeated 3 times- of course with the different tags & 
> different coulours).
>
>
> Both didn't work.
> But it works, if I only make 1 tiddler with 1 tag + 1 coulour.
>
> So, it seems, that, if there are 3 different conditions with resulting 
> coulours, they disturb each other.
>
> How to solve this?
>
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Using a variable to name a field to get its value

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Mark,

Thanks, of course you are correct, I should have gone to bed when I could not 
solve this.

Tony

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[tw] Re: How to: Automatic setting field value if a tiddler has a special tag

2018-01-31 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi,

again here :-)

Now I have the situation, that I want in another wiki to have 3 types of 
showing tiddlerlinks in the sidebar (shown there with 
toc-selective-expandable):


   - Some tiddlers have the tag "wichtig" >they should be shown red in the 
   sidebar.
   - Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptGetested" >they should be shown 
   green in the sidebar.
   - Some tiddlers have the tag "RezeptNICHTGetested" >they should be shown 
   orange in the sidebar.

I made it with building 3 different tiddlers, tagged with $:/tags/Macro 
with 
\define toc-caption()
<$list filter="[all[current]regexp:
tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum">@@color:Coulour;<$view field="caption"><$view 
field="title"/>@@
<$list filter="[all[current]!regexp:tags[\bTag\b]]" variable="dum"><$view 
field="caption"><$view field="title"/>
\end

>Of course with the different tags & different coulours


And I made it with only 1 tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Macro with the same 
command (but repeated 3 times- of course with the different tags & 
different coulours).


Both didn't work.
But it works, if I only make 1 tiddler with 1 tag + 1 coulour.

So, it seems, that, if there are 3 different conditions with resulting 
coulours, they disturb each other.

How to solve this?

Surya

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi Evgeniy,

as I understand, you mean dragging tiddlers with the left mouse button - 
that's something you can do already

What I meant is the resizing with mouse+keyboard. Now I've implemented it 
in a way I like, I've put it online on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

I think like that it will be in 0.1.2

it's also configurable and tweakable to be able to realize lots of layouts
each tiddler can store a pixel value for its width and height in its fields 
"muuri-tiddler-width-px" and "muuri-tiddler-height-px" and that value gets 
used for its height and width
pinch-zoom and alt+mousewheel/shift+mousewheel also store the values in 
those fields

and there are two new buttons (they can be disabled) that let you 
add/remove 1px from the width or height if you want to fit tiddlers 
perfectly somewhere

I hope later this week I'll have the widget and the documentation ready for 
everyone's use

all the best, Simon

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-31 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:21:24 PM UTC+1, coda coder wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:11:41 PM UTC+1, coda coder wrote:
>>>
>>> I just tested 0.3.0 -- the extra a-elements are still applied when 
>>> importing a bundle:
>>>
>>
>> I did have a closer look. ... 
>> Working with empty.html added bundler and uni-link plugins. 
>>
>
>
> Did you add the latest FontAwesome?
>

I think I found it: eg: [[CamelCase]] ... the redundant braces seem to be 
the problem. ... Need more investigation.

-m

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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread Jon
Cheers Coda.
Jon

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:00:57 UTC, coda coder wrote:
>
> Jon
>
> Oops.  I meant to make those float:left to address the issue you had...
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 7:41:33 AM UTC-6, coda coder wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> or
>>
>> 
>>
>> or, because you're likely dealing with left-to-right text (like English)
>>
>> 
>>
>> Find a good CSS resource and read up on styles.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:27:28 AM UTC-6, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I noticed in this example that if it's changed to "float:left;", the 
>>> text is very close to the table. How would you create a space between the 
>>> two?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:55:22 UTC, passingby wrote:

 Html tags work in the tiddler. So just wrap do this:

  


 |cell1|cell2|
 |cell3|cell4|


 
 Here follows a paragraph which will flow up along the table on left.




 On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:32:38 PM UTC-7, slip532 wrote:
>
> I just started using tiddlywiki today, so I'm still pretty green. Is 
> there a way to put text beside tables instead of only above and below 
> them? 
> Literally like a person's page wikipedia. It has the table with the 
> person's picture, age, etc... on the right, and text beside it on the 
> left. 
> On my tiddler, I have the table on the left, and just a big blank space 
> beside it that I'd like to use for text, but don't know how.
>
> Thanks!
>


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2018-01-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Footnote on point 1.

"Clone" is the wrong word. What I meant was SILENT BACKUP of the PREVIOUS 
version.

Best wishes
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2018-01-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Thomas

I have more comments on Bricks. They come slowly as I need work with it 
first to get as clear as I can.

1 - REDUNDANT SILENT CLONE ON SAVE? -- *NEW FEATURE REQUEST*

Given that making interventions into StyleSheets may well go WRONG, I was 
wondering if the save mechanism could silently auto-clone any stylesheet 
edited in the list to an Archived Version (maybe just the title with 
modification date added into an archive section)  so you can RECOVER where 
you were & backtrack if you need to?

2 -  CASCADE QUESTION

Looking at the order in List-Reveal for Bricks its alphabetical, right? And 
the Generator follows the same order?

In other words YOU already made sure that no style group you split it into 
overlaps? Every style is only found ONCE? Right?

I do think that practically folk will want to adopt the overall scheme and 
THEN add a "tweaking stylesheet". HOW will they know WHERE to place so that 
a cascade that has overrides works? 

Maybe this issue is simply about documenting the Generation Order? In 
practice I think it might matter. 

By way of background I can't see many people wanting to go through the very 
careful development process you went though. They are more likely to just 
want to add an "overrides" section to what you did?

3 - GENERATE & REPLACE all the stylesheets with the ONE generated.

In your comments you remark this is for mainly developers. I agree and 
disagree. I agree that getting into the full detail of all those 
stylesheets is beyond me and not something I want to do either. 

YOU just DID it, so why would I not trust your result to be a ground-zero? 
I would.

But its not beyond me to know a few things I want to tweak.

In practice this means ... I'd generate a consolidated stylesheet from what 
you made? Put at place one in the ListReveal? Add a second SS with my 
modest Tweaks that OVERRIDE previous entries in the cascade? 

MY QUESTION: Will that work when I Re-Generate? Will the overrides I added 
hold? 

4 - Its a mystery to me to understand how "Bricks" SS know they are Bricks? 
They don't carry that tag? Are you filtering on paths? This is likely my 
idiocy :-). 

5 - I'm a bit unclear how I create a NEW SET.

6 - One of the INTERESTING things for me is your quite radical design where 
the live SS form the very interface. I like that. Very much. Live means 
live. But you can't start from zero (as I commented before in a previous 
post there seem to be some residual rules that probably need shutting off). 
I simply think this needs documenting. I'm a bit hazy on this.

I like it because its radical AND contiguous with extant methods. In 
practice it means, I can add a few changes to an otherwise optimised, 
compact, responsive CSS set to deliver a better TW.

Thankyou!

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
The text beside My Table is not The Bible at the moment. Its J.M. Coetzee's 
brilliant "The Childhood Of Jesus" 

.

Just ignore me :-)

J, x

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Using a variable to name a field to get its value

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Without having access to your environment, I'm guessing "menu-context" is a 
variable defined somewhere else?

Then you might try:

{{$menuname$!!menu-filter-$(menu-context)$}} 

As far as I am aware, the  syntax only works inside filters.

Good luck 
-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 3:46:50 AM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Perhaps a wizz can help me?
>
> I am trying to Use a variable to name a field, from which to get its value.
>
> In this example I set the variable menu-context and call the macro
>
> I want it to return the value in the field 
> {{Testmenu-filtercode!!menu-filter-viewheader}} if it exists *NOT WORKING*
> Other wise the value in {{Testmenu-filtercode!!menu-filter}} if it exists  
> WORKING
> Otherwise the value in {{$:/PSaT/MyMenus/menufilterdefault}} if it exists  
> WORKING
>
> The key issues seems to be my syntax for the set widget 
> value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter-}} 
>
> Can anyone please assist?
>
> I have the below code in a test tiddler Testmenu-filtercode
>
> \define mymenufilter(menuname)
> Context:<>
> <$set name=menufilter value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter-}} 
> emptyValue={{$menuname$!!menu-filter}}>
> menu-filter1 = <>, 
> <$set name=menufilter value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter}} emptyValue=
> "{{$:/PSaT/MyMenus/menufilterdefault}}">
> menu-filter2 = <>
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
> <$set name=menu-context value=viewheader>
> Menu-context = <>
> <>
> 
> ...
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>

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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder
Jon

Oops.  I meant to make those float:left to address the issue you had...


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 7:41:33 AM UTC-6, coda coder wrote:
>
> 
>
> or
>
> 
>
> or, because you're likely dealing with left-to-right text (like English)
>
> 
>
> Find a good CSS resource and read up on styles.
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:27:28 AM UTC-6, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed in this example that if it's changed to "float:left;", the text 
>> is very close to the table. How would you create a space between the two?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:55:22 UTC, passingby wrote:
>>>
>>> Html tags work in the tiddler. So just wrap do this:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> |cell1|cell2|
>>> |cell3|cell4|
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Here follows a paragraph which will flow up along the table on left.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:32:38 PM UTC-7, slip532 wrote:

 I just started using tiddlywiki today, so I'm still pretty green. Is 
 there a way to put text beside tables instead of only above and below 
 them? 
 Literally like a person's page wikipedia. It has the table with the 
 person's picture, age, etc... on the right, and text beside it on the 
 left. 
 On my tiddler, I have the table on the left, and just a big blank space 
 beside it that I'd like to use for text, but don't know how.

 Thanks!

>>>

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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread Jon
Excellent!
Thanks all
Jon

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:41:33 UTC, coda coder wrote:
>
> 
>
> or
>
> 
>
> or, because you're likely dealing with left-to-right text (like English)
>
> 
>
> Find a good CSS resource and read up on styles.
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:27:28 AM UTC-6, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed in this example that if it's changed to "float:left;", the text 
>> is very close to the table. How would you create a space between the two?
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:55:22 UTC, passingby wrote:
>>>
>>> Html tags work in the tiddler. So just wrap do this:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> |cell1|cell2|
>>> |cell3|cell4|
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Here follows a paragraph which will flow up along the table on left.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:32:38 PM UTC-7, slip532 wrote:

 I just started using tiddlywiki today, so I'm still pretty green. Is 
 there a way to put text beside tables instead of only above and below 
 them? 
 Literally like a person's page wikipedia. It has the table with the 
 person's picture, age, etc... on the right, and text beside it on the 
 left. 
 On my tiddler, I have the table on the left, and just a big blank space 
 beside it that I'd like to use for text, but don't know how.

 Thanks!

>>>

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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder


or



or, because you're likely dealing with left-to-right text (like English)



Find a good CSS resource and read up on styles.

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:27:28 AM UTC-6, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed in this example that if it's changed to "float:left;", the text 
> is very close to the table. How would you create a space between the two?
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:55:22 UTC, passingby wrote:
>>
>> Html tags work in the tiddler. So just wrap do this:
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> |cell1|cell2|
>> |cell3|cell4|
>>
>>
>> 
>> Here follows a paragraph which will flow up along the table on left.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:32:38 PM UTC-7, slip532 wrote:
>>>
>>> I just started using tiddlywiki today, so I'm still pretty green. Is 
>>> there a way to put text beside tables instead of only above and below them? 
>>> Literally like a person's page wikipedia. It has the table with the 
>>> person's picture, age, etc... on the right, and text beside it on the left. 
>>> On my tiddler, I have the table on the left, and just a big blank space 
>>> beside it that I'd like to use for text, but don't know how.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Calling all TiddlyServer users

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder
Josiah is right.  It's a lot easier than it sounds.

Personally, I think TS should come WITH node.exe and a default 
settings.json preconfigured to serve flatfile TWs from /documents.

When you (Arlen) then add the config system you've mentioned (perhaps 
served from config.html, yet to be written), all the lengthy chat from the 
github readme (that might serve to put off beginners) can be swallowed up 
inside a "Gory Details" tiddler elsewhere.  Here, "advanced" users can be 
told "if you already have node installed, you can delete the one included 
with the standard install".


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 5:11:33 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Arlen
>
> Just an FYI. Over on Twitter I got a reply about methods of install that 
> said ...
>
> TiddlyServer sounds a bit heavy for me (I should know more about stuff 
>> like configuring servers and javascript development and such, but actually 
>> don't know so much) (full post 
>> )
>>
>
> It may be that some beginners think "TiddlyServer" is MORE difficult than 
> it is. I remember when you simplified it to make a minimal install it 
> suddenly felt a lot easier. 
>
> As this post shows the word "server" invokes a sense of complications that 
> TiddlyServer really doesn't have.
>
> Maybe that could be made a bit clearer? That on the "server" side its 
> really not that complex? For the simplest install its much like any other 
> program.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-31 Thread coda coder


On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-6, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:11:41 PM UTC+1, coda coder wrote:
>>
>> I just tested 0.3.0 -- the extra a-elements are still applied when 
>> importing a bundle:
>>
>
> I did have a closer look. ... 
> Working with empty.html added bundler and uni-link plugins. 
>


Did you add the latest FontAwesome?

It looks like this: 
>
>
>
> Did you change any of the default macros? eg: 
> $:/plugins/wikilabs/uni-link/uni-link-macro
>
>
No.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Folks,

Please 
see https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/Y0C5e4DmWWs 
where I forshadow MyMenus plugin

I am sure it will provide "easier handling of common tasks" as burning tree 
raised.

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Re: [tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

2018-01-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao David

That is growing into a seriously useful repository of links to NEEDED 
THINGS.

FYI, in the last week I used it four times to more quickly find links 
useful for TW stuff relevant to questions on Twitter.

I'm hoping that the penny-will-drop and that we can move on to a place 
where such a list can be auto-generated by some enhancement to the plugin 
architecture such that a plugin announces itself to some aggregations 
system. Its a lot of work for one person to do all this manually.

Erwan developed a solution towards that but its not used much.

I seriously believe that TW's uptake is being damaged by lack of CENTRAL 
recording of published plugins.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] [TW5] Using a variable to name a field to get its value

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
Folks,

Perhaps a wizz can help me?

I am trying to Use a variable to name a field, from which to get its value.

In this example I set the variable menu-context and call the macro

I want it to return the value in the field 
{{Testmenu-filtercode!!menu-filter-viewheader}} if it exists *NOT WORKING*
Other wise the value in {{Testmenu-filtercode!!menu-filter}} if it exists  
WORKING
Otherwise the value in {{$:/PSaT/MyMenus/menufilterdefault}} if it exists  
WORKING

The key issues seems to be my syntax for the set widget 
value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter-}} 

Can anyone please assist?

I have the below code in a test tiddler Testmenu-filtercode

\define mymenufilter(menuname)
Context:<>
<$set name=menufilter value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter-}} 
emptyValue={{$menuname$!!menu-filter}}>
menu-filter1 = <>, 
<$set name=menufilter value={{$menuname$!!menu-filter}} emptyValue=
"{{$:/PSaT/MyMenus/menufilterdefault}}">
menu-filter2 = <>


\end


<$set name=menu-context value=viewheader>
Menu-context = <>
<>

...



Thanks in advance
Tony

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin now includes an Alias links- and backlinks-mechanism

2018-01-31 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:11:41 PM UTC+1, coda coder wrote:
>
> I just tested 0.3.0 -- the extra a-elements are still applied when 
> importing a bundle:
>

I did have a closer look. ... 
Working with empty.html added bundler and uni-link plugins. 
It looks like this: 



Did you change any of the default macros? eg: 
$:/plugins/wikilabs/uni-link/uni-link-macro

-mario

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[tw] Re: Calling all TiddlyServer users

2018-01-31 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Arlen

Just an FYI. Over on Twitter I got a reply about methods of install that 
said ...

TiddlyServer sounds a bit heavy for me (I should know more about stuff like 
> configuring servers and javascript development and such, but actually don't 
> know so much) (full post 
> )
>

It may be that some beginners think "TiddlyServer" is MORE difficult than 
it is. I remember when you simplified it to make a minimal install it 
suddenly felt a lot easier. 

As this post shows the word "server" invokes a sense of complications that 
TiddlyServer really doesn't have.

Maybe that could be made a bit clearer? That on the "server" side its 
really not that complex? For the simplest install its much like any other 
program.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar
Quick answer:
"It's more preferable for me to use hold left mouse click to pick tiddler
for dragging behavior. You know, like icons in iPhone/iPad"

2018-01-31 11:04 GMT+03:00 BurningTreeC :

> @John Jones, thanks I'm looking forward to that!
>
> @all:
>
> I've implemented alt+mousewheel, shift+mousewheel and shift+alt+mousewheel
> to change the tiddlers freely
>
> The pinch-zoom now works much better and sets the exact width in pixels
> you set by pinching
>
> you can preview both on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
> The pinch-zoom also lets you move tiddlers around. A small thing is
> missing atm - the new tiddler position doesn't get saved - I'll fix that
> soon
>
> Now I try to figure out which of all ways works best, I'm pretty undecided
> about the keyboard and mouse controls.
> I'm not that happy about the current implementation of how tiddlers get
> paginated (on chrome/chromium/maybe safari, too) or scrollable (on firefox)
> when the tiddler height gets low so that the content doesn't fit - the
> scrollbars on firefox are simply ugly. This pagination/scrollable on
> overflow is a css solution and you may have better ideas, I'd welcome them!
> :)
>
> the "free willy" button atm doesn't reset the widths applied with the new
> methods but when I know which way to go I'll fix that
>
> if you have time, let me know what works for you,
>
> cheers
> Simon
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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread TonyM
You could use html or tiddlywiki tables even with a single row but 3 or 4 
columns.

Regards
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[tw] Re: Text Beside Table

2018-01-31 Thread passingby
You could try using padding or margin properties in the inline style definition.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch

2018-01-31 Thread BurningTreeC
@John Jones, thanks I'm looking forward to that!

@all:

I've implemented alt+mousewheel, shift+mousewheel and shift+alt+mousewheel 
to change the tiddlers freely

The pinch-zoom now works much better and sets the exact width in pixels you 
set by pinching

you can preview both on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

The pinch-zoom also lets you move tiddlers around. A small thing is missing 
atm - the new tiddler position doesn't get saved - I'll fix that soon

Now I try to figure out which of all ways works best, I'm pretty undecided 
about the keyboard and mouse controls.
I'm not that happy about the current implementation of how tiddlers get 
paginated (on chrome/chromium/maybe safari, too) or scrollable (on firefox) 
when the tiddler height gets low so that the content doesn't fit - the 
scrollbars on firefox are simply ugly. This pagination/scrollable on 
overflow is a css solution and you may have better ideas, I'd welcome them! 
:)

the "free willy" button atm doesn't reset the widths applied with the new 
methods but when I know which way to go I'll fix that

if you have time, let me know what works for you,

cheers
Simon

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