date:20210306

Hi Charlie,
 Thank you for sharing your code pattern! These are always useful!
 The fieldset combination is also a powerful tool for making UI

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 3:36 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Just in case this kind of programming code interests you.
>
> Please find attached the related code as a PDF, highlighting the important
> bits.  If you want to dig into the code itself, find the related Tiddler in my
> Tifoist project .
>
> I've the following search criteria for retrieving tiddlers (tagged as
> "fact" tiddlers.)
> [image: Screenshot 2021-03-06 at 3.41.26 PM.png]
>
> There are, at the moment, seven kinds of errors checked by the filtering
> process.
>
> "Ignore Errors" will give all fact tiddlers.
>
> "Non-Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have none of the seven
> kinds of errors.
>
> "Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have one or more of the
> kinds of errors checked.
>
> Although I'm sure I'll be refactoring my code at some point, I've had an
> awful lot of fun putting together what I have now.
>
> A little bit of the code pasted below to entice you to delve into the
> details???
>
> Cheers !
>
> 
>  Error Status
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="Fact"> Ignore
> Errors 
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactOk">
> Non-Errors Only 
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactErr">
> Errors Only 
> 
>
> 
> <$vars nSmarts=7 vSmarts={{{
> [get[description]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[a]]
> [get[c1]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[b]]
> [get[c1]get[pk]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[c]]
> [get[c2]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[d]]
> [get[c3]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[e]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[f]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[g]]
> +[count[]]}}}>
>
> <$list filter="[match[Fact]then]
> [match[FactOk]thenmatchthen]
> [match[FactErr]then!match[0]then]">
>
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[tw5] Re: For your perusal: from one convoluted mind to another?

2021-03-06 Thread Charlie Veniot

Time travel.  For whatever reason, that made me think of the following tune 
to psych me up for my eventual study-for-refactoring-opportunities:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPE9a_epmWw

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 12:11:12 AM UTC-4 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi CJ, 
>
> It's interesting just to see a snippet of a large project, isolated just 
> to share a pattern. 
>
> Something about it feels kind of like time travel.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just in case this kind of programming code interests you.
>>
>> Please find attached the related code as a PDF, highlighting the 
>> important bits.  If you want to dig into the code itself, find the related 
>> Tiddler in my Tifoist project .
>>
>> I've the following search criteria for retrieving tiddlers (tagged as 
>> "fact" tiddlers.)
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-03-06 at 3.41.26 PM.png]
>>
>> There are, at the moment, seven kinds of errors checked by the filtering 
>> process.
>>
>> "Ignore Errors" will give all fact tiddlers.
>>
>> "Non-Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have none of the seven 
>> kinds of errors.
>>
>> "Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have one or more of the 
>> kinds of errors checked.
>>
>> Although I'm sure I'll be refactoring my code at some point, I've had an 
>> awful lot of fun putting together what I have now.
>>
>> A little bit of the code pasted below to entice you to delve into the 
>> details???
>>
>> Cheers !
>>
>> 
>>  Error Status
>> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="Fact"> Ignore 
>> Errors 
>> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactOk"> 
>> Non-Errors Only 
>> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactErr"> 
>> Errors Only 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$vars nSmarts=7 vSmarts={{{ 
>> [get[description]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[a]]
>>  
>> [get[c1]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[b]]
>>  
>> [get[c1]get[pk]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[c]]
>>  
>> [get[c2]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[d]]
>>  
>> [get[c3]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[e]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[f]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[g]]
>>  
>> +[count[]]}}}>
>>
>> <$list filter="[match[Fact]then] 
>> [match[FactOk]thenmatchthen] 
>> [match[FactErr]then!match[0]then]">
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Learning from Roam / Steps to making TiddlyWiki the default notetaking tool

2021-03-06 Thread Charlie Veniot

Yeah, I have to +1 Mohammad's reply.

I use TW5 to create single-page websites and my latest project is using 
TiddlyWiki as a solution for recording facts about a universe of discourse 
for database-engineering.

As is, TW5 can be used for note-taking, but the various use cases for 
TiddlyWiki 
 are 
really mind-blowing.  TW5 is, to me, a hypertext solutions platform for 
just about anything.

The more "core" TW5 gets burdened with features applicable to a particular 
use case, it makes TW5 heavier (not so great) for all the other use cases.

To me, it sniffs like there are enough folk to maybe collaborate on an 
edition of TiddlyWiki that is EverNote-like?  I think that would be very 
cool.  (However, just to be clear:  although I think that would be very 
cool, that is not an edition of TiddlyWiki that I would be interested in at 
all.  Not to build it.  Not to use it.)

Or just a "recipe" for creating a killer TW5 Note-Taking edition...  
(Actually, documented "recipes" for various solutions with TW5 would be 
awesome.)

ASIDE:  As a WYSIWYG editor, have you tried BJ Tools' Visual Editor 
?

Cheers and best regards!

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 1:20:04 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 7:03 AM bluespire  wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in chatting about this.
>>
>> I too feel that TW5 could be a killer app, but I think it needs to be 
>> presented to the mainstream in a way that separates itself from all the 
>> other note-taking tools. TW5 is very powerful, but is distributed in a very 
>> vanilla form. That's great for power the two ends of the user bell-curve; 
>> power users, and very light users. The majority of users want something at 
>> least as close to what Evernote can deliver. I believe that for TW5 to go 
>> mainstream, a polished, customized, version of it should be marketed as an 
>> "Evernote clone, but can be self-hosted (privacy), customized, and 
>> scripted". Doesn't have to be "evernote clone", choose your poison, but I 
>> still think that is the best way to go. Then you will get the mainstream 
>> hooked, and the power-users and developers will follow (at least I hope so).
>>
>
> That is a pain! TW in the current form is not suitable for the majority of 
> users! But it is a killer app as you said for many advanced users!
>
>  
>
>>
>>  My major blocker is screen-shots and robust WYSIWYG, that I'm trying to 
>> get around with by using CKEditor embedded. 
>>
>
> Let me disagree! Lets TW uses a plain editor for text! There are some 
> tools to edit and see the results side by side! Keep it light and simple
>
>  
>
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 7:49:43 PM UTC-6 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying, Ray.
>>>
>>> Would enjoy joining you sometime, but for me, would likely need to be on 
>>> a Monday - Friday, my weekends are a bit hectic for various reasons
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 4:36:17 PM UTC-8 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I was aiming it anyone who want to join ;-)
 Jitsi is a very easy platform to video meet.
 Tomorrow i start one again.
 Everybody is welcome. Nothing official, just hanging out, learning, 
 making plans, whatever comes up :-)

 Ray

 Op za 6 mrt. 2021 om 01:05 schreef ArchiMark :

> Hi Ray, were you aiming your suggestion at me or ? 
>
> In any event, just saw  your post nowseveral hours later
>
> If at me, please note I'm in California, so on PST time, and at work 
> right now...however, either very early mornings or usually over my lunch 
> hour or sometimes my afternoons work.
>
> If you were aiming this at David or someone else, please ignore this 
> post...  :-)
>
> Mark
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 12:34:27 PM UTC-8 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Maybe we get together online and have a setup session?
>> Learning and make some plans in promoting TW to get it to a 
>> higher level?
>> I am online all the time, Jitsi is a tool i use often: 
>> https://meet.jit.si/TiddlyWiki is active now :-)
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> Op vr 5 mrt. 2021 om 21:15 schreef ArchiMark :
>>
>>> Great posts, David! Think your on the right track about having the 
>>> right people review TW, hopefully, in a positive manner. Agree, this 
>>> would 
>>> give a big boost to TW awareness and hopefully, generate more people 
>>> using 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Writing this as TW Newb who only discovered TW and other like apps 
>>> in the past week or so.
>>>
>>> Like Ray, I recognized quickly that TW is a great and powerful, 
>>> useful tool, IF you know how to use it effectively. Also, like Ray, I 
>>> found 
>>> trying to get my head around how to use it effectively is another 
>>> matter 
>>>

Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Dave,

Some suggestions (ignore if not relevant)

1.  I added the $:/themes/tiddlywiki/centralised theme from
https://tiddlywiki.com/ and then used the Centralized theme!
2. Put both dropdowns in one window with tabs! One for sidebar one from
tiddler

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:47 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different.
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2
>> )
>> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the
>> comptext plugin.
>>
>> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I
>> am not familiar with it.
>>
>> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core,
>> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another
>> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown
>> 
>> .
>>
>> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it
>> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I
>> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of
>> tutorials
>> 
>> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a
>> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to
>> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of
>> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro),
>> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle
>>> buttons
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dave

1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is.
But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.

 Why not use a page control button?



 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford 
 wrote:

> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes,
> it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier
> for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab
> groups.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation
>> is at that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: For your perusal: from one convoluted mind to another?

2021-03-06 Thread clutterstack

Hi CJ, 

It's interesting just to see a snippet of a large project, isolated just to 
share a pattern. 

Something about it feels kind of like time travel.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just in case this kind of programming code interests you.
>
> Please find attached the related code as a PDF, highlighting the important 
> bits.  If you want to dig into the code itself, find the related Tiddler in 
> my 
> Tifoist project .
>
> I've the following search criteria for retrieving tiddlers (tagged as 
> "fact" tiddlers.)
> [image: Screenshot 2021-03-06 at 3.41.26 PM.png]
>
> There are, at the moment, seven kinds of errors checked by the filtering 
> process.
>
> "Ignore Errors" will give all fact tiddlers.
>
> "Non-Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have none of the seven 
> kinds of errors.
>
> "Errors Only" will give all fact tiddlers that have one or more of the 
> kinds of errors checked.
>
> Although I'm sure I'll be refactoring my code at some point, I've had an 
> awful lot of fun putting together what I have now.
>
> A little bit of the code pasted below to entice you to delve into the 
> details???
>
> Cheers !
>
> 
>  Error Status
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="Fact"> Ignore 
> Errors 
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactOk"> 
> Non-Errors Only 
> <$radio tiddler=<> index="qbe_fact_status" value="FactErr"> 
> Errors Only 
> 
>
> 
> <$vars nSmarts=7 vSmarts={{{ 
> [get[description]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[a]]
>  
> [get[c1]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[b]] 
> [get[c1]get[pk]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[c]]
>  
> [get[c2]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[d]] 
> [get[c3]then[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[e]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[f]][get[c3]getthen[FactOk]else[FactErr]regexpthen[g]]
>  
> +[count[]]}}}>
>
> <$list filter="[match[Fact]then] 
> [match[FactOk]thenmatchthen] 
> [match[FactErr]then!match[0]then]">
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

"Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is giving 
the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times through the 
years. 
I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice until 
having saved and refresh the wiki.
Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. Only when 
you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, you would have 
the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  home computer.

Birthe"

Sorry for another post, but realized I did  not address your input quoted 
above from your last post above.

Yes, I saved TW file on MacBookPro after updating it and then emailed it to 
myself at work. Then got javascript error when trying to open on work 
computer.

Today, I opened the updated TW file on my MacBookPro and it opens OK, no 
errors.

Thanks.

Mark


On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:

> Birthe, 
>
> I am not sure, will have to try.
>
> As I noted in my previous post, when you insert a USB flash drive in work 
> computer, a window opens with message that drive will be encrypted with a 
> password needed, if you try to copy any files from computer to the flash 
> drive. 
>
> In the past, I was able to copy files from flash drive to my computer. 
> Don't know if this is still true, as I have not tried this in a long time.
>
> So, don't know for sure what will happen if I try to run portableapp from 
> flash drive, will have to try and see what happens.
>
> I just installed Chrome browser now on my home MacBookPro and the TW file 
> opened up OK. 
>
> So, if I don't get situation fixed on work computer, then I probably will 
> use Chrome at home (thereby matching Chrome on work computer) and avoiding 
> any incompatibility issues from using different browsers.
>
> Meanwhile, just checked TW file that I modified on MacBookPro with Firefox 
> before emailing to myself at work computer Wednesday evening.
>
> Per TW tutorial video, I did create a new tiddler with a tag 
> "$:/tags/Sidebar and in the type field, selected "text/x-markdown" and 
> below that in fields put "list-before" and to the right of that 
> "$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open". The idea was to create a new tab in in the right 
> hand side pane called 'Content'.
>
> Could this cause issue with file on my work computer or is it more likely 
> problem is due to using two different browsers?
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:17:25 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>> Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I know many 
>> companies do not allow it.
>> I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.
>>
>> Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is 
>> giving the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times 
>> through the years. 
>> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice until 
>> having saved and refresh the wiki.
>> Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. Only 
>> when you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, you would 
>> have the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  home 
>> computer.
>>
>> Birthe
>> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, then 
>>> probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop up when I 
>>> try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT guys 
>>> have.
>>>
>>> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know that 
>>> when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that if you try 
>>> to copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your 
>>> drivebut don't know if it will let me run an app off of it
>>>
>>> Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by clicking on 
>>> the checkmark icon in TW.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>
 The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the 
 first place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, 
 then 
 you will not have a working TW file.

 Some other Mark



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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

Birthe, 

I am not sure, will have to try.

As I noted in my previous post, when you insert a USB flash drive in work 
computer, a window opens with message that drive will be encrypted with a 
password needed, if you try to copy any files from computer to the flash 
drive. 

In the past, I was able to copy files from flash drive to my computer. 
Don't know if this is still true, as I have not tried this in a long time.

So, don't know for sure what will happen if I try to run portableapp from 
flash drive, will have to try and see what happens.

I just installed Chrome browser now on my home MacBookPro and the TW file 
opened up OK. 

So, if I don't get situation fixed on work computer, then I probably will 
use Chrome at home (thereby matching Chrome on work computer) and avoiding 
any incompatibility issues from using different browsers.

Meanwhile, just checked TW file that I modified on MacBookPro with Firefox 
before emailing to myself at work computer Wednesday evening.

Per TW tutorial video, I did create a new tiddler with a tag 
"$:/tags/Sidebar and in the type field, selected "text/x-markdown" and 
below that in fields put "list-before" and to the right of that 
"$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open". The idea was to create a new tab in in the right 
hand side pane called 'Content'.

Could this cause issue with file on my work computer or is it more likely 
problem is due to using two different browsers?

Mark

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:17:25 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark,
> Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I know many 
> companies do not allow it.
> I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.
>
> Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is giving 
> the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times through the 
> years. 
> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice until 
> having saved and refresh the wiki.
> Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. Only 
> when you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, you would 
> have the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  home 
> computer.
>
> Birthe
> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>
>> Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, then 
>> probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop up when I 
>> try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT guys 
>> have.
>>
>> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know that 
>> when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that if you try 
>> to copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your 
>> drivebut don't know if it will let me run an app off of it
>>
>> Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by clicking on 
>> the checkmark icon in TW.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the 
>>> first place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, then 
>>> you will not have a working TW file.
>>>
>>> Some other Mark
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw on android doesn’t load changes

2021-03-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Where on your device are the files physically located? How are you opening 
them, and with which app? I assume tiddloid, since that's the only listed 
android app. Is the file on a secondary drive (sd card) or on your main 
memory card?

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:02:37 AM UTC-8 flohit...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> Hey, 
> I love the idea of tw and would love to use it as a crossdevice–Notebook 
> and a base for a static Blog where I incorporate notes. (Digital Garden) 
> (would be great if more templates would be available for that matter)
> However, when I open the wiki file I transferred from my PC on my android 
> os via any of the listed apps or ff (I use mull, a security mod), it 
> doesn’t load the changes I made, but rather starts the wiki from zero – 
> „getting started“ is being displayed and the wiki name is set back, the 
> plugins aren‘t loaded but rather than that I get a load of code beneath the 
> displayed tiddler. 
> Does somebody know why that happens or what I could do? 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Major changes just made. Nowhere near done yet, but is a lot different. 
https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:29:26 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> > I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
> )
>  
> to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the 
> comptext plugin.
>
> I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I 
> am not familiar with it. 
>
> Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, 
> with or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another 
> place this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 
> 
> .
>
> It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
> simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
> haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of 
> tutorials 
> 
>  
> as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
> dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to 
> do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
> defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro), 
> just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Dave
>> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle 
>> buttons
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. 
>>>But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>>>
>>> Why not use a page control button?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>>
 Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, 
 it is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier 
 for people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab 
 groups.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is 
> at that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

I am happy to hear that, Mike.  Enjoy!
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:10:50 PM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> I tried your approach Stan and it worked – hooray!
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 20.04.51.png]
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Mike
> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 16:23:28 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Torax - no, looking to sort by date of the memory itself rather than 
>> date the memory was posted.
>>
>> @Si - that sounds like what I had in mind. I will give this a try and 
>> post an update.
>>
>> @Stan - that’s correct. Although would prefer not to have to perform a 
>> search to view the posts.
>>
>> Thank you all for your help. I will have a go and see if I can set this 
>> up and post an update.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 14:23:21 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after 
>>> the date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  
>>> Please correct me if I am wrong.   
>>>
>>> What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
>>> "-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but if 
>>> you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
>>> journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
>>> right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 
>>>
>>> Stan 
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
 tool that it is.

 I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
  for keeping a chronological record of special 
 family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.

 In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
 memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
 important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
 brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
 took place!

 For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
 Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
 based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.

 Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what 
 is the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get 
 it working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like 
 I'm 5!

 Kind regards,

 Mike

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

Mark,
Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I know many 
companies do not allow it.
I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.

Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki that is giving 
the javascript error. I have seen that same error several times through the 
years. 
I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not notice until 
having saved and refresh the wiki.
Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your mail. Only when 
you opened it again, you saw the error. If that is the case, you would have 
the same error, when trying to open the same wiki on you  home computer.

Birthe
lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, then 
> probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop up when I 
> try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT guys 
> have.
>
> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know that 
> when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that if you try 
> to copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your 
> drivebut don't know if it will let me run an app off of it
>
> Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by clicking on the 
> checkmark icon in TW.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the first 
>> place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, then you 
>> will not have a working TW file.
>>
>> Some other Mark
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

Birthe, thank you for your input.yes, if download is exe file, then 
probably won't work. I usually get an error message window pop up when I 
try that says, I need to enter an admin passwork, which only our IT guys 
have.

Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I do know that when 
you insert a flash drive, it pops up a window saying that if you try to 
copy anything to the drive, it will automatically encrypt your drivebut 
don't know if it will let me run an app off of it

Mark S, thank you for your inputI only save TW file by clicking on the 
checkmark icon in TW.

Mark

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:

> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the first 
> place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, then you 
> will not have a working TW file.
>
> Some other Mark
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

Thank you @Torax. I will have a play with this option too.

Mike

On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 21:09:29 UTC torax...@googlemail.com wrote:

> Mike, you can partial automate the task:
> 1. set the title-setting in $:/ControlPanel
> [image: pic1.jpg]
>
> 2. Activate the "New Journal"-Button in the Side-Bar:
> [image: pic2.jpg]
>
> Resulting:
> [image: pic3.jpg]
>
> mej...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 21:10:50 UTC+1:
>
>> I tried your approach Stan and it worked – hooray!
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 20.04.51.png]
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 16:23:28 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Torax - no, looking to sort by date of the memory itself rather than 
>>> date the memory was posted.
>>>
>>> @Si - that sounds like what I had in mind. I will give this a try and 
>>> post an update.
>>>
>>> @Stan - that’s correct. Although would prefer not to have to perform a 
>>> search to view the posts.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your help. I will have a go and see if I can set this 
>>> up and post an update.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 14:23:21 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after 
 the date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  
 Please correct me if I am wrong.   

 What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
 "-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but 
 if 
 you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
 journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
 right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 

 Stan 
 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
> tool that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of 
> special family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This 
> is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 
> 1 Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what 
> is the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to 
> get 
> it working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like 
> I'm 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>


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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

2021-03-06 Thread si

@Mike I can see that you are using the tag "Journal" instead of "Memory". 
Maybe you forgot to change this in the example code I gave?

So <$list filter="[is[current]tag[Memory]]"> should be <$list 
filter="[is[current]tag[Journal]]">.

Having said that it still doesn't explain what I am seeing in your 
screenshot. If your test doesn't have any personal data would you be 
willing to share it as an attachment? It will be easier to diagnose that 
way.

>>> Is it possible to have the date picker appear in the `field value` 
input box to simplify entry of `memory-date` instead?

Instead of the tag "$:/tags/ViewTemplate" you could use the tag 
"$:/tags/EditTemplate". It does the same thing but transcludes the content 
in edit mode rather than view mode. This won't look very neat, but I'm just 
giving you a quick and simple way to do it.
On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 21:17:48 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> I followed the instructions to implement the date picker and am confused:
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 21.06.09.png]
>
> The date picker appears below the content of the tiddler (top of image). 
> Changing this date does not change the value of the `memory-date` field, so 
> I assume this changing another date. Is it possible to have the date picker 
> appear in the `field value` input box to simplify entry of `memory-date` 
> instead?
>
> Mike
> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 20:10:50 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I tried your approach Stan and it worked – hooray!
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 20.04.51.png]
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 16:23:28 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Torax - no, looking to sort by date of the memory itself rather than 
>>> date the memory was posted.
>>>
>>> @Si - that sounds like what I had in mind. I will give this a try and 
>>> post an update.
>>>
>>> @Stan - that’s correct. Although would prefer not to have to perform a 
>>> search to view the posts.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your help. I will have a go and see if I can set this 
>>> up and post an update.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 14:23:21 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after 
 the date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  
 Please correct me if I am wrong.   

 What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
 "-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but 
 if 
 you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
 journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
 right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 

 Stan 
 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
> tool that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of 
> special family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This 
> is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 
> 1 Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what 
> is the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to 
> get 
> it working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like 
> I'm 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>


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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

2021-03-06 Thread clutterstack

Hi David,

> I would prefer the parallel tab ($:/.giffmex/sidebar/parallel2 
)

to have autocomplete, but can't figure out how to do integrate it with the 
comptext plugin.

I suspect this is one of the intended use-cases for comptext, although I am 
not familiar with it. 

Another option is to use the keyboard-driven-events macro in the core, with 
or without a dropdown. This is what the sidebar search uses. Another place 
this is used is in the editor toolbar link dropdown 

.

It's kind of involved, though. I made myself a plugin macro to make it 
simpler, but it has a million parameters (though most are optional) and I 
haven't documented it yet. I do intend to. I did write a couple of tutorials 

as I worked through how keyboard-driven-input works, and how to put a 
dropdown selector with it. Note that the first tutorial doesn't show how to 
do anything with the selected search result (which is just a matter of 
defining actions to pass as parameters to the keyboard-driven-input macro), 
just how the guts of the macro work with its state tiddlers. 

Best,
Chris

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave
> You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle 
> buttons
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Dave
>>
>>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. 
>>But if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>>
>> Why not use a page control button?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it 
>>> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for 
>>> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone

 Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is 
 at that file.

 https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

 Thanks in advance!

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyStretch: stretchtext in TiddlyWiki

2021-03-06 Thread Soren Bjornstad

David, I just discovered what you mean by "the bullets and text don't align 
anyway" because I'm waiting to get a new battery installed in my car and 
working on my MacBook at the shop. On my Linux desktop where I usually edit 
wikis, they do line up! I guess there is some difference in the default 
system font. Some folks have reported similar inconsistencies between 
platforms with *Grok TiddlyWiki* (related to font weight, in that case), so 
perhaps I need to take a deep dive into this.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:25:27 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

>
> I added this to the Toolmap, next to the other two stretch texts plugins 
> mentioned in this thread.
>
> Comments:
>
> 1. I like this approach in that the stretch text is a separate tiddler, 
> and the tiddler is easily accessed by the button, to edit it. 
> 2. The magnifying glass with the plus and minus was a good icon choice.
> 3. To each his/her own re: choices, but if I were to do this, I would have 
> only the magnifying glass visible, then when you click that, I would have 
> all but the button to open the tiddler. Why? a) when reading, the less 
> clutter and confusion, the better. b) when you open the stretch, if you 
> already have the tiddler title link there, the other button to the view 
> mode of the tiddler is redundant.
> 4. Are the bullets also redundant? The icons seem to function as the 
> bullet, standing at the head of the text as they do. The bullets and text 
> don't align anyway. You might think about creating a class for special 
> lists where the bullet is removed entirely.
> 5. Thank you for your willingness to share your at times very personal 
> TiddlyWiki. It is a goldmine of ideas, nicely organized. I now want to read 
> through it!
> 6. How did you get the tag colors separated in your Explore tab > Tags 
> tab??? I like that idea a lot. Makes it easy to narrow down the kinds of 
> tabs and check them quickly.
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:52:57 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> I've been playing with Ted Nelson's stretchtext 
>>  idea lately. The gist is 
>> that you can expand and shrink text to a desired level of detail in place – 
>> so it's kind of a middle ground between linking and straight transclusion. 
>> In TW, I implement each fragment of stretchtext as a tiddler, where the 
>> *description* field contains a summary and the *text* field contains the 
>> full level of detail.
>>
>> You can easily expand on this in a couple ways – you can change the 
>> fields used, or you can instead render the tiddler through a pair of 
>> arbitrary templates, one for the summary and one for the expanded version. 
>> You can create multi-level stretchtext by using more stretchtext macros 
>> within the first level of tiddlers. I also have a *stretch-links* macro 
>> that works like *list-links*, but instead of just linking to relevant 
>> tiddlers, it makes them expandable within the current tiddler.
>>
>> Here's an example:
>>
>> [image: stretchtext-screenshot.png]
>> And a couple more examples in my Zettelkasten 
>> 
>>  (permaview).
>>
>> If this sounds interesting, check out the prototype TiddlyStretch plugin 
>> at https://sobjornstad.github.io/tiddlystretch/ and let me know what you 
>> think!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

2021-03-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you saved in the first 
place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" button of your browser, then you 
will not have a working TW file.

Some other Mark

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

2021-03-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Wow. It's been almost 3 years without any interest. 2021 must be the year 
of Salt and Rice.
 

> In terms that a 3-year-old might understand, how do I download, assemble 
> and use the Carbo Commander and its accompanying data, in a local file on 
> my computer?


Wah! Wha! Goo-goo bah wah!


I can't figure out what to drag/drop to an empty TW to recreate what you 
> have at TiddlySpot.
>
>
Be sure to have a backup of your TW file. You need to drag over Evan 
Balster's spreadsheet plugin from the plugins. And you need to drag over:

DayLog ViewTemplate 

FoodItem ViewTemplate 

CarboConfig

If you want my pre-configured set of foods, you need to find something 
tagged with "FoodItem" and drag the tag to your file.

Also, while I have your ear, Mark, would I be correct in assuming that this 
> 'application' would afford me the opportunity to add in my own items 
> (thinking brand-name foods that I purchase), and enter in the nutritional 
> information for each, and be able to sort, track, etc. on that data?
>
>
You can certainly set up your own foods. Whether you can do the things you 
want depends exactly on what you're thinking of. At the moment it just does 
what is presented -- allows you to keep a log of (theoretically) 20 
nutrients. It tallies up the totals for your chosen nutrients on any given 
day. It presents the first nutrient in detail. You can copy an existing 
item, modify it (especially the "field" value). Then add that field name to 
your daily log fields at the bottom of your daily log tiddler. Inside the 
CarboConfig tiddler you can set how many nutrients to calculate, and which 
ones.

To facilitate the process of adding new foods, there is an existing 
database of 8000 items modified for CarboCommander over at:

https://nutrition-database.tiddlyhost.com//

It will take several seconds to load. Type into the search box some key 
term (e.g. "kellog", "banana", ) and you'll find dozens (hundreds?) of 
hits. Navigate to one that's close to what you want. Then drag and drop 
into your working TW file. Edit to suit your needs.
 

> Really I'm most interested in 1) Carbohydrates, 2) Sodium, 3) Fat and 4) 
> Protein in each item.
>

Carbs, Sodium, and Protein are fields that are already represented in the 
food database. For Fat, you'll either have to create your own field,  or 
use the more specific  FA Mono, FA Saturated, FA Poly which was how the 
USDA database represented the nutrients.

This was all built using Evan Balster's math formulae. Now there are enough 
math tools inside TW to do it without them. I guess if I was doing it now 
I'd use those instead, because I recall having to do a lot of tricky 
wikifying to get Evan's tools to work with this data.

Don't get old, folks...
>

Too late.

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

I tried your approach Stan and it worked – hooray!

[image: Screen Shot 2021-03-06 at 20.04.51.png]

Thanks very much.

Mike
On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 16:23:28 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Torax - no, looking to sort by date of the memory itself rather than date 
> the memory was posted.
>
> @Si - that sounds like what I had in mind. I will give this a try and post 
> an update.
>
> @Stan - that’s correct. Although would prefer not to have to perform a 
> search to view the posts.
>
> Thank you all for your help. I will have a go and see if I can set this up 
> and post an update.
>
> Mike
>
> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 14:23:21 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after 
>> the date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  
>> Please correct me if I am wrong.   
>>
>> What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
>> "-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but if 
>> you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
>> journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
>> right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 
>>
>> Stan 
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
>>> tool that it is.
>>>
>>> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>>>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
>>> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
>>> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
>>> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
>>> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
>>> took place!
>>>
>>> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
>>> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
>>> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
>>> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
>>> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
>>> 5!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

In the 2007-2008 era of TW classic, I used to run portable FF with my TW on 
a USB Flash drive that I would carry between my 3 offices (at the time).  I 
loved Portable Apps - *you run it off of the USB drive, it does not install 
on your machine*.   Once you install Portable Apps on the USB drive,  use 
Portable Apps to install the portable version of FF (or Chrome, but I would 
choose one) to the USB drive.   

I don't know about the Mac/Windows compatibility, though.  It looks like it 
will run on macOS via one of four different virtual machines.  WineBottler 
and PlayOnMac are free.  I have never tested a Windows VM on my Macs, 
though. 

Good luck!  Let me know how it goes. I may just try the VM on my MacBooks 
and Linux box...and go back to Portable Apps.   
Stan

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:09:19 PM UTC-5 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Stan, thanks for the suggestion!
>
> So, I can run PortableApps program on my work laptop without installing 
> it? Then within it, install Firefox? If so, then it should work.
>
> Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

Mark,
You will still need to install it somewhere. a synced cloud folder, 
external drive or local folder. The download is an exe file - and even 
explained that it does not install into the Windows environment, I doubt 
your workplace would like it.

Birthe

lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 20.09.19 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:

> Stan, thanks for the suggestion!
>
> So, I can run PortableApps program on my work laptop without installing 
> it? Then within it, install Firefox? If so, then it should work.
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:14:04 AM UTC-8 stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mark, you might want to check out https://portableapps.com for 
>> starters.   I don't use it anymore, but used the system years ago with 
>> great success. 
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:46:23 PM UTC-5 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Due to security concerns at my work, I can't install any programs that 
>>> require installing from an .exe file. Can only 'install' so called 
>>> 'portable apps' that just need me to unzip a file somewhere on computer 
>>> drive.  So, unless there's a portable version of FF to install, I can't use 
>>> it on my work laptop. Hence, idea to use Chrome on MBP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Dave
You may also use the LeftBar by Mat (TWaddle) for displaying the toggle
buttons


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:09 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> Dave
>
>1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. But
>if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.
>
> Why not use a page control button?
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it
>> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for
>> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is
>>> at that file.
>>>
>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Dave

   1. The button should really go on the right, where the sidebar is. But
   if I put it there, the dropdown goes off the screen to the right.

Why not use a page control button?



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:55 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it
> is now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for
> people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at
>> that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

David,
i see. Absolutely correct. It is kind of when a newbie wonders why the 
TableOfContent is not in empty.

Birthe

lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 20.21.12 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Yes, Birthe, but a visitor seeing the menubar in tiddlywiki.com won't 
> know they have to go to the advanced controls > plugins > get more plugins 
> > menubar plugin. They are just going to see the blue bar, think, That's 
> cool, and assume they can do a search to find out how to add it.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 1:10:55 PM UTC-6 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The Menu Bar plugin has a readme and a config tab.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 15.57.56 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
>>> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
>>> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
>>> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
>>> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Just updated the dropdown slightly. Instead of individual checkboxes, it is 
now a list with a filter based on a tag. That way it will be easier for 
people to create and share custom sidebar segments and custom tab groups.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at 
> that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

Yes, Birthe, but a visitor seeing the menubar in tiddlywiki.com won't know 
they have to go to the advanced controls > plugins > get more plugins > 
menubar plugin. They are just going to see the blue bar, think, That's 
cool, and assume they can do a search to find out how to add it.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 1:10:55 PM UTC-6 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Menu Bar plugin has a readme and a config tab.
>
> Birthe
>
>
> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 15.57.56 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
>> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
>> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
>> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
>> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

The Menu Bar plugin has a readme and a config tab.

Birthe


lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 15.57.56 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:

> Hi all
>
> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

Stan, thanks for the suggestion!

So, I can run PortableApps program on my work laptop without installing it? 
Then within it, install Firefox? If so, then it should work.

Mark

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 5:14:04 AM UTC-8 stan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark, you might want to check out https://portableapps.com for starters.  
>  I don't use it anymore, but used the system years ago with great success. 
>
> Stan
>
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:46:23 PM UTC-5 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Due to security concerns at my work, I can't install any programs that 
>> require installing from an .exe file. Can only 'install' so called 
>> 'portable apps' that just need me to unzip a file somewhere on computer 
>> drive.  So, unless there's a portable version of FF to install, I can't use 
>> it on my work laptop. Hence, idea to use Chrome on MBP.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Thanks Mohammad! Feel free to help me with some of the roadblocks I mention 
there! :-)

Instead of a chooser I think I have a simpler idea...

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Dave,
>  This new version is much much better! Minimal design and nice drop down 
> menu with checkboxes (toggle buttons)
>
>  Keep going on!
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 9:56 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at 
>> that file.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: No menubar documentation?

David:

I think the AboveStory tag may be worth considering as a "top menu" 
alternative.

In fact, its control and that of the comparable BelowStory tag could be 
worth while additions to your 'toggle!"  plugin.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:57:56 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for 
> menubar or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to 
> anyone trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does 
> GitHub please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone 
> to add a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Way of organising and transcluding things

rayv;

You might want to take a look at 
Eric's https://tiddlytools-timer.tiddlyhost.com/.  It's made a significant 
improvement in my TW work flows to the point that I recommend it as a 
solution that is preferable (in many contexts) to Journal tiddlers.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:56:36 AM UTC-5 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks!
> I have stroll already installed indeed and find the referencing tiddlers 
> below quite handy :-)
>
> Op za 6 mrt. 2021 om 15:42 schreef David Gifford :
>
>> You might try Stroll (https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html), and in 
>> the pink eyeball tab, select the Highlights in context option.
>>
>> That way, the MaryDoe tiddler will show at the bottom, all the backlinks 
>> from other tiddlers to MaryDoe in context, so you can see which tiddlers 
>> you want to open to see more detail, and the links will be right there.
>>
>> Also, if you have camelcase links enabled, you can write MaryDoe, and not 
>> bother with the brackets.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:53:34 AM UTC-6 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> My current way of organising my tiddles is as follows:
>>>
>>> Mainly i create a Journal tiddler everyday with title of the date and 
>>> put in there the things i've done, like so:
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Call with [[JohnDoe]] to organise event. He thoughtbla..
>>> He also asked  bla
>>>
>>> Student [[MaryDoe]] mailed me the contract for internship at company 
>>> [[CompDoe]]
>>>
>>> Send schedule to [[StudentDoe]] like agreed 
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Something that way...
>>> So i have a list of dated Journals and i can see what ive did that day 
>>> when i click the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Now i wanted to be able to click on the say [[MaryDoe]] in a tiddler and 
>>> i would like to see only the line (until the ) so that i get all the 
>>> info over time i wrote about Mary
>>> I need to extract that lines of text from all tiddlers where she appears 
>>> i think.
>>> Not sure how to do that. So in a way i see all her history in one view.
>>>
>>> But... then i was thinking: why not create a separate tiddler called 
>>> MaryDoe and put in there every new stuff on the days i have to do something 
>>> for her, or when she contacts me etc..
>>> That would make things easier when i retrieve her historical data 
>>> because when i click her title the information shows up because it us all 
>>> in one tiddler.
>>>
>>> Now i only would like to have some way of knowing on what days i updated 
>>> her tiddler.
>>> So the historical view is visible.
>>>
>>> Am i thinkinkg the right way or is there another way of realising this??
>>>
>>> I feel for the seperate tiddlers approach but how can i see an overview 
>>> like:
>>>
>>> 1 Mar 21 : Action so and so
>>>
>>> 3 Jan 21: Call so and so
>>>
>>> 31Dec20: Lines of text added on this day.
>>>  This is also the line of text added this day..
>>>
>>> Any thoughts??
>>>
>>> CHeers
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Sidebar redesign idea

David:

Another (browser) technique to reduce "clutter" is to make use of the "Open 
in a new window"  capability.  This creates an effective popup that you can 
dismiss when doe, or k,keep open for reference by just positioning it in 
another area of your display(s).  It's very effective if you have large 
screens and even more so when using mutiple displays.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:52:51 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Hans!
>
> I am now thinking about the top menu bar that is on tiddlywiki.com as a 
> place to put buttons that change the sidebar content. Even more efficient! 
> I will post here.
>
> Yes, I was thinking that such a system should have instructions so users 
> can rearrange tabs as desired.
>
> My goals in doing this were:
> 1. Reduce or eliminate everything above the tabs and slide the tabs up so 
> we can see more of the tabs (there is still that pesky space there, and 
> even inspecting the page didn't help me see what it is...)
> 2. Reorganize the tabs by function: tabs for newbies, tabs to set up the 
> file, tabs to work, and "stuff I never use"
> 3. Imagine what other tabs would be helpful. A help tab with links to the 
> forum is one such tab.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:52:27 AM UTC-6 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> David:
>>
>> I think it's an interesting addition to "minimalist" design concepts in 
>> which folks have been trying to reduce what they see as visible clutter.  
>> I've noticed my Tiddlers have been moving in this direction for several 
>> years.  However, I never really thought of applying this to the Sidebar 
>> area before now.  (Taken to its limits, a single pixel in the upper left 
>> corned of the focus area might be the ideal 'de-clutter'.)
>>
>> Instead, in the Sidebar, I've used the standard Sidebar components to 
>> host CamelCase links to persistent entry points as a balance of the 
>> Ultimate possibility against practical efficienciess.
>>
>> Your suggestion has piqued my interest in trying customizing the SideBar 
>> area.  I suspect this will end up being tailored by individual users for 
>> the own preferences and by Edition authors for their applications.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see how far this proceeds.
>>
>> Thanks for this idea "spark" as well as your many other contributions.
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:34:38 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 4:05:23 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
 David,

 I like it on my screen. I don't have strong feelings about it in 
 general, but my first impression is that Control Panel access through the 
 sidebar may be more intuitive than opening it in the story. That is 
 affected by the sidebar width, of course. Then, given that you're putting 
 more config stuff in the sidebar, it starts to make sense to have a 
 hierarchy of tabs, and the Tools tab fits right in with the other Setup 
 tabs -- except that occasionally it is useful as a collection of buttons I 
 don't use a lot. That's the problem with a hierarchy...and not a specific 
 problem with this idea.

 I guess the Work tab would be filled with whatever the author likes to 
 have one click away.

 I think this is an interesting idea that caters for both newer TW 
 admins and for wikis that have a separation between author and user, which 
 are both good angles to explore.

 Best,
 Chris

 On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:51:26 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Oh and I am not trying to be conceited by my adding of my Toggle tab. 
> Just thinking that some of those items could be in those two areas...
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 2:50:30 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Don't know what got into me. Just an idea to reorganize the tabs 
>> conceptually and move the control panel items into the tabs. This is 
>> just 
>> slapped together and is not done properly. More like a proof of concept 
>> than an actual thing. Looking for feedback more on the choices made 
>> rather 
>> than the behind the scenes execution.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.html
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Dave,
 This new version is much much better! Minimal design and nice drop down
menu with checkboxes (toggle buttons)

 Keep going on!

Best wishes
Mohammad


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> Hi everyone
>
> Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at
> that file.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Reimagining the sidebar, phase two [requesting feedback]

Hi everyone

Please give feedback or help for the file linked below. Explanation is at 
that file.

https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

2021-03-06 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox

Hiya, Mark, et al (not taking into account any users actually named 'Al' 
:-P ) :)

I bookmarked this thread wy back in the long ago when it first 
appeared, meaning to delve into it in depth later and mine its goodness, 
but, alas, much H2O has passed beneath the proverbial span since then, and 
my TW skills (what there were of them, anyway) have dimmed and waned to the 
point that I forget how to use most parts of the darned thing...

In terms that a 3-year-old might understand, how do I download, assemble 
and use the Carbo Commander and its accompanying data, in a local file on 
my computer?

I can't figure out what to drag/drop to an empty TW to recreate what you 
have at TiddlySpot.

Also, while I have your ear, Mark, would I be correct in assuming that this 
'application' would afford me the opportunity to add in my own items 
(thinking brand-name foods that I purchase), and enter in the nutritional 
information for each, and be able to sort, track, etc. on that data?

Really I'm most interested in 1) Carbohydrates, 2) Sodium, 3) Fat and 4) 
Protein in each item.

Don't get old, folks...

--Zaphod
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 6:47:24 AM UTC-5 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Mark
>
> Is it possible to make a dashboard in CarboCommander using dynamic tables 
> in shiraz plug in or using TiddlyTables to view the DayLog of nutrient 
> intake say for the last 30 days. 
> I was planning to use Carbo Commander together with Odin's recipe plug in 
> and a task manager plug in.
>
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 5:23:18 PM UTC+5:30 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Suddenly it makes a lot more sense :-)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 27 May 2018 05:46:21 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Oops. You may have been wondering where the configuration menu was. It 
>>> is supposed to appear at the bottom of the opening documentation, but was 
>>> lost due to a last minute name tweak. Now restored.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the inconvenience ...
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Tw on android doesn’t load changes

2021-03-06 Thread 'Florian Felix' via TiddlyWiki

Hey, 
I love the idea of tw and would love to use it as a crossdevice–Notebook 
and a base for a static Blog where I incorporate notes. (Digital Garden) 
(would be great if more templates would be available for that matter)
However, when I open the wiki file I transferred from my PC on my android 
os via any of the listed apps or ff (I use mull, a security mod), it 
doesn’t load the changes I made, but rather starts the wiki from zero – 
„getting started“ is being displayed and the wiki name is set back, the 
plugins aren‘t loaded but rather than that I get a load of code beneath the 
displayed tiddler. 
Does somebody know why that happens or what I could do? 



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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

@Torax - no, looking to sort by date of the memory itself rather than date 
the memory was posted.

@Si - that sounds like what I had in mind. I will give this a try and post 
an update.

@Stan - that’s correct. Although would prefer not to have to perform a 
search to view the posts.

Thank you all for your help. I will have a go and see if I can set this up 
and post an update.

Mike

On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 14:23:21 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after 
> the date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  
> Please correct me if I am wrong.   
>
> What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
> "-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but if 
> you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
> journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
> right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 
>
> Stan 
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
>> tool that it is.
>>
>> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
>> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
>> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
>> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
>> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
>> took place!
>>
>> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
>> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
>> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>>
>> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
>> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
>> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
>> 5!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [tw5] Presenting: HackSearch - Find that shadowtid!

On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 11:40 AM Mat  wrote:

> Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Why does it appear under advanced search?
>>
>
> Where else? It is (kind of) search tool and there is the direct button to
> Advanced Search to access it.
>


It seems Control Panel > Info > Advanced has such tabs! but I know this
needs many mouse clicks to get there!



>
>
>> It is good to add a search feature to it!
>>
> I know Saq was working on a feature to search in settings so it can be
>> used here too!
>>
>
> How would a envision that a search feature for it, specifically, differ
> from the search feature that appears in the AdvancedSearch standard tabs?
>

All items can be displayed by default in their respective tabs! Then using
a search box you can search by entering a keyword and then limit the result!
Like searching for settings in Android!

This is just my opinion! Ignore where not relevant!



>
> Thanx
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Plugin-packaging/display: Ideas and Suggestions

On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 6:32 PM dieg...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Hello all,
>

Hi Diego,

Many thanks for your thoughts and great ideas you always share with the
community!
Having some standards for creating plugins including docs, demos,... would
be very helpful and this will make installing and using plugins much easier!

There were some ideas by Nico and he was working to create a community
plugin library. I am not sure if he is still working on the project or not!
If so, plugin authors, contributing to such community libraries could be
asked to include some minimum tiddlers, ...




> I really like the Projectify plugin's 
> inclusion of its excellent and thorough documentation *as part of the
> plugin* itself. This means all the documentation is included "in the
> namespace of the plugin":
>
> $:/plugins/nico/projectify/doc/etc...
>
> I frequently forget the details of specific plugins, and then have to go
> back to open them, see if they have a readme, if they do great! If they
> dont have meaningful one, see if they have a link to a github demo, if they
> do great! If they dont, have to search google (not google groups since I
> hate google groups search), etc. etc.
>
> So, to not make this post too long, some suggestions for plugin authors
> (of course, with the utmost respect and humility knowing full well I'm not
> a plugin author myself), is to:
>
>- Follow in the great Mohammad's footsteps and always have clearly
>indicated a "Demo" and "code" link in the README of the plugin.
>- Follow in Nico (and many others as well, just the latest one I can
>remember) steps of including comprehensive documentation packaged right
>along with the plugin itself!
>
>


>
> A side note: For point two above, I recently posted a feature suggested on
> GitHub about letting plugin authors more easily edit the viewTemplate of
> their plugins, getting rid of the (potentially) "scary" $:/plugins/... in
> the title, and instead exposing something like:
>
> Plugins > Projectify > Documentation
>

I think even having a plugin tiddler with a title like
$:/plugins/author/name/tidname can be used as a customized view template to
see it as a tidname, but you have to overwrite some core tiddlers. Maybe
this can be added officially by Jeremy!



>
> even though the tiddler is of course actually titled
> "$:/plugins/nico/projectity/...". I closed it after some discussion, but I
> thought I'd mention it here in case anyone would like to share their
> thoughts about this possibility as well.
>
> Best,
> Diego
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.2.0

On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 6:23 PM dieg...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Mohammad,
>

Hi Diego,

>
> I am *once again* realizing just how powerful, thorough, and wonderful
> Shiraz is. It really is amazing. If someone just takes the time to read
> everything that's available, you'll be amazed.
>

That's very kind of you! I think Shiraz by using a small part of css
classes of Bootstrap (a very popular and yet wonderful CSS framework) is
sufficient for creating almost many visual elements you like to include in
your wiki/webpage/blog/doc, etc...

To this end add dynamic tables and image macros! One drawback I really have
to work on is the size of the plugin! It is 110kB while it is not too much
but I like to decrease it!

I have made my own TW app with all these essential plugins
(Shiraz+Commander+Todolist+Favorites+Utility+Trashbin AND
relink+CodeMirror+CodeMirror subplugins) and then use the wonderful Uglify
from Flibbles to create a minified version and I have an empty.html =
2.636MB which is 10kB less than the official empty.html


Best wishes
Mohammad


>
> Thank you!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like
>> alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>
>> Revision 2.2.0
>>
>>- Date: [3rd Mar 2021]
>>- [FIXED] updated to TW 5.1.23
>>- [NEW] the new pagination feature for dynamic tables
>>- [NEW] the tbl-clone special column is used by default in table edit
>>mode
>>- [NEW] documentation for pagination was added
>>- [NEW] details macro got new input parameters label, srcClass and
>>sumClass added and style and sum were dropped
>>
>> Nice to see goodies like
>>
>>
>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs
>>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyStretch: stretchtext in TiddlyWiki

2021-03-06 Thread Soren Bjornstad

Sorry about the broken link. I changed the casing of the name after 
publishing, and apparently GitHub Pages URLs are case-sensitive, but it 
kept the page available at the old casing for a little while while I 
checked to see if it was, so then I thought it was not case-sensitive and 
didn't think I needed to update it. Here's a new link: 
https://sobjornstad.github.io/TiddlyStretch/

Thanks for sharing the other implementations! The way I tend to use it, 
separate tiddlers is a much more useful layout, but I can see the benefit 
of embedding the text in arbitrary macros, too. Unfortunate that I named my 
macro the same as Mat's plugin – didn't know about that one before I 
started. Hopefully nobody will try to use both implementations together.

> Having extra fields needs extra work. So as an option may be you could 
have a first paragraph as your smallField

Ooh, I like this idea.

> 6. How did you get the tag colors separated in your Explore tab > Tags 
tab??? I like that idea a lot. Makes it easy to narrow down the kinds of 
tabs and check them quickly

Change $:/core/Filters/AllTags!!filter to 
[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]sort[color]] (sort[color] added).

> Are the bullets also redundant? The icons seem to function as the bullet, 
standing at the head of the text as they do. The bullets and text don't 
align anyway. You might think about creating a class for special lists 
where the bullet is removed entirely.

The main reason I put bullets in was because having them as separate 
paragraphs didn't look good in many cases; each “paragraph” was too small 
and there was too much space between them. But I agree there are cases 
where the bullet points don't really look great either. A better way might 
be to add a CSS class to the list generated by stretch-links that removes 
the bullet points and tweaks the spacintg (perhaps optionally). I'll play 
around with different options here. Sometimes the text really feels like a 
list, as in Laws of Cynicism 
, and the bullets 
might still be useful.
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:25:27 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

>
> I added this to the Toolmap, next to the other two stretch texts plugins 
> mentioned in this thread.
>
> Comments:
>
> 1. I like this approach in that the stretch text is a separate tiddler, 
> and the tiddler is easily accessed by the button, to edit it. 
> 2. The magnifying glass with the plus and minus was a good icon choice.
> 3. To each his/her own re: choices, but if I were to do this, I would have 
> only the magnifying glass visible, then when you click that, I would have 
> all but the button to open the tiddler. Why? a) when reading, the less 
> clutter and confusion, the better. b) when you open the stretch, if you 
> already have the tiddler title link there, the other button to the view 
> mode of the tiddler is redundant.
> 4. Are the bullets also redundant? The icons seem to function as the 
> bullet, standing at the head of the text as they do. The bullets and text 
> don't align anyway. You might think about creating a class for special 
> lists where the bullet is removed entirely.
> 5. Thank you for your willingness to share your at times very personal 
> TiddlyWiki. It is a goldmine of ideas, nicely organized. I now want to read 
> through it!
> 6. How did you get the tag colors separated in your Explore tab > Tags 
> tab??? I like that idea a lot. Makes it easy to narrow down the kinds of 
> tabs and check them quickly.
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:52:57 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> I've been playing with Ted Nelson's stretchtext 
>>  idea lately. The gist is 
>> that you can expand and shrink text to a desired level of detail in place – 
>> so it's kind of a middle ground between linking and straight transclusion. 
>> In TW, I implement each fragment of stretchtext as a tiddler, where the 
>> *description* field contains a summary and the *text* field contains the 
>> full level of detail.
>>
>> You can easily expand on this in a couple ways – you can change the 
>> fields used, or you can instead render the tiddler through a pair of 
>> arbitrary templates, one for the summary and one for the expanded version. 
>> You can create multi-level stretchtext by using more stretchtext macros 
>> within the first level of tiddlers. I also have a *stretch-links* macro 
>> that works like *list-links*, but instead of just linking to relevant 
>> tiddlers, it makes them expandable within the current tiddler.
>>
>> Here's an example:
>>
>> [image: stretchtext-screenshot.png]
>> And a couple more examples in my Zettelkasten 
>> 
>>  (permaview).
>>
>> If this sounds interesting, check out the prototype TiddlyStretch plugin 
>> at https://sobjornstad.github.io/tiddlystretch/ and let me know what you 
>>

[tw5] Plugin-packaging/display: Ideas and Suggestions

2021-03-06 Thread dieg...@gmail.com

Hello all,

I really like the Projectify plugin's inclusion
of its excellent and thorough documentation *as part of the plugin* itself.
This means all the documentation is included "in the namespace of the
plugin":

$:/plugins/nico/projectify/doc/etc...

I frequently forget the details of specific plugins, and then have to go
back to open them, see if they have a readme, if they do great! If they
dont have meaningful one, see if they have a link to a github demo, if they
do great! If they dont, have to search google (not google groups since I
hate google groups search), etc. etc.

So, to not make this post too long, some suggestions for plugin authors (of
course, with the utmost respect and humility knowing full well I'm not a
plugin author myself), is to:

- Follow in the great Mohammad's footsteps and always have clearly
indicated a "Demo" and "code" link in the README of the plugin.
- Follow in Nico (and many others as well, just the latest one I can
remember) steps of including comprehensive documentation packaged right
along with the plugin itself!

A side note: For point two above, I recently posted a feature suggested on
GitHub about letting plugin authors more easily edit the viewTemplate of
their plugins, getting rid of the (potentially) "scary" $:/plugins/... in
the title, and instead exposing something like:

Plugins > Projectify > Documentation

even though the tiddler is of course actually titled
"$:/plugins/nico/projectity/...". I closed it after some discussion, but I
thought I'd mention it here in case anyone would like to share their
thoughts about this possibility as well.

Best,
Diego

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[tw5] No menubar documentation?

Hi all

Just wanted to point out that on tiddlywiki.com when you search for menubar 
or top menu, nothing comes up. That would be VERY frustrating to anyone 
trying to see how to add that to their wiki. Can someone who does GitHub 
please add something there, even if just a pull request for someone to add 
a tiddler or two on how to add it and how to add items to it? Thanks!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Way of organising and transcluding things

2021-03-06 Thread Ray Vermey

Thanks!
I have stroll already installed indeed and find the referencing tiddlers
below quite handy :-)

Op za 6 mrt. 2021 om 15:42 schreef David Gifford :

> You might try Stroll (https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html), and in the
> pink eyeball tab, select the Highlights in context option.
>
> That way, the MaryDoe tiddler will show at the bottom, all the backlinks
> from other tiddlers to MaryDoe in context, so you can see which tiddlers
> you want to open to see more detail, and the links will be right there.
>
> Also, if you have camelcase links enabled, you can write MaryDoe, and not
> bother with the brackets.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:53:34 AM UTC-6 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> My current way of organising my tiddles is as follows:
>>
>> Mainly i create a Journal tiddler everyday with title of the date and put
>> in there the things i've done, like so:
>>
>> ---
>> Call with [[JohnDoe]] to organise event. He thoughtbla..
>> He also asked  bla
>>
>> Student [[MaryDoe]] mailed me the contract for internship at company
>> [[CompDoe]]
>>
>> Send schedule to [[StudentDoe]] like agreed 
>> ---
>>
>> Something that way...
>> So i have a list of dated Journals and i can see what ive did that day
>> when i click the tiddler.
>>
>> Now i wanted to be able to click on the say [[MaryDoe]] in a tiddler and
>> i would like to see only the line (until the ) so that i get all the
>> info over time i wrote about Mary
>> I need to extract that lines of text from all tiddlers where she appears
>> i think.
>> Not sure how to do that. So in a way i see all her history in one view.
>>
>> But... then i was thinking: why not create a separate tiddler called
>> MaryDoe and put in there every new stuff on the days i have to do something
>> for her, or when she contacts me etc..
>> That would make things easier when i retrieve her historical data because
>> when i click her title the information shows up because it us all in one
>> tiddler.
>>
>> Now i only would like to have some way of knowing on what days i updated
>> her tiddler.
>> So the historical view is visible.
>>
>> Am i thinkinkg the right way or is there another way of realising this??
>>
>> I feel for the seperate tiddlers approach but how can i see an overview
>> like:
>>
>> 1 Mar 21 : Action so and so
>>
>> 3 Jan 21: Call so and so
>>
>> 31Dec20: Lines of text added on this day.
>>  This is also the line of text added this day..
>>
>> Any thoughts??
>>
>> CHeers
>>
>> Ray
>>
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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.2.0

2021-03-06 Thread dieg...@gmail.com

Mohammad,

I am *once again* realizing just how powerful, thorough, and wonderful 
Shiraz is. It really is amazing. If someone just takes the time to read 
everything that's available, you'll be amazed. 

Thank you! 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to create 
> stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like alerts, 
> cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, texts, etc. 
> Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>
> Revision 2.2.0
>
>- Date: [3rd Mar 2021]
>- [FIXED] updated to TW 5.1.23
>- [NEW] the new pagination feature for dynamic tables
>- [NEW] the tbl-clone special column is used by default in table edit 
>mode
>- [NEW] documentation for pagination was added
>- [NEW] details macro got new input parameters label, srcClass and 
>sumClass added and style and sum were dropped
>
> Nice to see goodies like
>
>
>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs
>- https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar redesign idea

Thanks Hans!

I am now thinking about the top menu bar that is on tiddlywiki.com as a 
place to put buttons that change the sidebar content. Even more efficient! 
I will post here.

Yes, I was thinking that such a system should have instructions so users 
can rearrange tabs as desired.

My goals in doing this were:
1. Reduce or eliminate everything above the tabs and slide the tabs up so 
we can see more of the tabs (there is still that pesky space there, and 
even inspecting the page didn't help me see what it is...)
2. Reorganize the tabs by function: tabs for newbies, tabs to set up the 
file, tabs to work, and "stuff I never use"
3. Imagine what other tabs would be helpful. A help tab with links to the 
forum is one such tab.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:52:27 AM UTC-6 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

> David:
>
> I think it's an interesting addition to "minimalist" design concepts in 
> which folks have been trying to reduce what they see as visible clutter.  
> I've noticed my Tiddlers have been moving in this direction for several 
> years.  However, I never really thought of applying this to the Sidebar 
> area before now.  (Taken to its limits, a single pixel in the upper left 
> corned of the focus area might be the ideal 'de-clutter'.)
>
> Instead, in the Sidebar, I've used the standard Sidebar components to host 
> CamelCase links to persistent entry points as a balance of the Ultimate 
> possibility against practical efficienciess.
>
> Your suggestion has piqued my interest in trying customizing the SideBar 
> area.  I suspect this will end up being tailored by individual users for 
> the own preferences and by Edition authors for their applications.
>
> It will be interesting to see how far this proceeds.
>
> Thanks for this idea "spark" as well as your many other contributions.
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:34:38 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris! 
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 4:05:23 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I like it on my screen. I don't have strong feelings about it in 
>>> general, but my first impression is that Control Panel access through the 
>>> sidebar may be more intuitive than opening it in the story. That is 
>>> affected by the sidebar width, of course. Then, given that you're putting 
>>> more config stuff in the sidebar, it starts to make sense to have a 
>>> hierarchy of tabs, and the Tools tab fits right in with the other Setup 
>>> tabs -- except that occasionally it is useful as a collection of buttons I 
>>> don't use a lot. That's the problem with a hierarchy...and not a specific 
>>> problem with this idea.
>>>
>>> I guess the Work tab would be filled with whatever the author likes to 
>>> have one click away.
>>>
>>> I think this is an interesting idea that caters for both newer TW admins 
>>> and for wikis that have a separation between author and user, which are 
>>> both good angles to explore.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:51:26 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Oh and I am not trying to be conceited by my adding of my Toggle tab. 
 Just thinking that some of those items could be in those two areas...

 On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 2:50:30 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

>
> Hi all
>
> Don't know what got into me. Just an idea to reorganize the tabs 
> conceptually and move the control panel items into the tabs. This is just 
> slapped together and is not done properly. More like a proof of concept 
> than an actual thing. Looking for feedback more on the choices made 
> rather 
> than the behind the scenes execution.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.html
>


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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

I don't think Mike wants tiddler-creation-timestamp. The way I understand 
Mike's question is that he doesn't always remember to make the journal 
entry on the day of (say, Jan 1) but might make it on January 5, or even 
February 5 - after he has made the February 1 Journal entry.   

The first step, of course, is to change the 'Title of New Journal Tiddlers' 
in the Control Panel to be something like '-0MM-0DD'.  If you make the 
journal entry on the day of, creating the new journal entry will populate 
the title with the string something like '2021-03-06'.  If I forgot to make 
February's entry, I could create a journal entry and simply edit the 
journal tiddler title to be '2021-02-01'.  Create a few entries and do a 
simple search from the right hand pane and they will be sorted.  

Torax's code won't work as written with this simplistic scheme, but could 
be easily modified. I am off to get my vaccine, so I'll get back to this 
later, if this has helped at all. 

Stan

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 8:28:45 AM UTC-5 torax...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> do you mean with "date that memory occured" the initial recording date? In 
> that case you "only" have to sort the journal entries by 
> tiddler-creation-timestamp. Filter:
> [tag[Journal]sort[created]]
>
> mej...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 13:13:05 UTC+1:
>
>> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing 
>> tool that it is.
>>
>> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
>> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> *In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
>> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted.* This 
>> is important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
>> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
>> took place!
>>
>> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
>> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
>> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>>
>> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
>> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
>> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
>> 5!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Way of organising and transcluding things

You might try Stroll (https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html), and in the 
pink eyeball tab, select the Highlights in context option.

That way, the MaryDoe tiddler will show at the bottom, all the backlinks 
from other tiddlers to MaryDoe in context, so you can see which tiddlers 
you want to open to see more detail, and the links will be right there.

Also, if you have camelcase links enabled, you can write MaryDoe, and not 
bother with the brackets.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:53:34 AM UTC-6 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all
>
> My current way of organising my tiddles is as follows:
>
> Mainly i create a Journal tiddler everyday with title of the date and put 
> in there the things i've done, like so:
>
> ---
> Call with [[JohnDoe]] to organise event. He thoughtbla..
> He also asked  bla
>
> Student [[MaryDoe]] mailed me the contract for internship at company 
> [[CompDoe]]
>
> Send schedule to [[StudentDoe]] like agreed 
> ---
>
> Something that way...
> So i have a list of dated Journals and i can see what ive did that day 
> when i click the tiddler.
>
> Now i wanted to be able to click on the say [[MaryDoe]] in a tiddler and i 
> would like to see only the line (until the ) so that i get all the info 
> over time i wrote about Mary
> I need to extract that lines of text from all tiddlers where she appears i 
> think.
> Not sure how to do that. So in a way i see all her history in one view.
>
> But... then i was thinking: why not create a separate tiddler called 
> MaryDoe and put in there every new stuff on the days i have to do something 
> for her, or when she contacts me etc..
> That would make things easier when i retrieve her historical data because 
> when i click her title the information shows up because it us all in one 
> tiddler.
>
> Now i only would like to have some way of knowing on what days i updated 
> her tiddler.
> So the historical view is visible.
>
> Am i thinkinkg the right way or is there another way of realising this??
>
> I feel for the seperate tiddlers approach but how can i see an overview 
> like:
>
> 1 Mar 21 : Action so and so
>
> 3 Jan 21: Call so and so
>
> 31Dec20: Lines of text added on this day.
>  This is also the line of text added this day..
>
> Any thoughts??
>
> CHeers
>
> Ray
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyStretch: stretchtext in TiddlyWiki

I added this to the Toolmap, next to the other two stretch texts plugins 
mentioned in this thread.

Comments:

1. I like this approach in that the stretch text is a separate tiddler, and 
the tiddler is easily accessed by the button, to edit it. 
2. The magnifying glass with the plus and minus was a good icon choice.
3. To each his/her own re: choices, but if I were to do this, I would have 
only the magnifying glass visible, then when you click that, I would have 
all but the button to open the tiddler. Why? a) when reading, the less 
clutter and confusion, the better. b) when you open the stretch, if you 
already have the tiddler title link there, the other button to the view 
mode of the tiddler is redundant.
4. Are the bullets also redundant? The icons seem to function as the 
bullet, standing at the head of the text as they do. The bullets and text 
don't align anyway. You might think about creating a class for special 
lists where the bullet is removed entirely.
5. Thank you for your willingness to share your at times very personal 
TiddlyWiki. It is a goldmine of ideas, nicely organized. I now want to read 
through it!
6. How did you get the tag colors separated in your Explore tab > Tags 
tab??? I like that idea a lot. Makes it easy to narrow down the kinds of 
tabs and check them quickly.

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:52:57 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> I've been playing with Ted Nelson's stretchtext 
>  idea lately. The gist is that 
> you can expand and shrink text to a desired level of detail in place – so 
> it's kind of a middle ground between linking and straight transclusion. In 
> TW, I implement each fragment of stretchtext as a tiddler, where the 
> *description* field contains a summary and the *text* field contains the 
> full level of detail.
>
> You can easily expand on this in a couple ways – you can change the fields 
> used, or you can instead render the tiddler through a pair of arbitrary 
> templates, one for the summary and one for the expanded version. You can 
> create multi-level stretchtext by using more stretchtext macros within the 
> first level of tiddlers. I also have a *stretch-links* macro that works 
> like *list-links*, but instead of just linking to relevant tiddlers, it 
> makes them expandable within the current tiddler.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> [image: stretchtext-screenshot.png]
> And a couple more examples in my Zettelkasten 
> 
>  (permaview).
>
> If this sounds interesting, check out the prototype TiddlyStretch plugin 
> at https://sobjornstad.github.io/tiddlystretch/ and let me know what you 
> think!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

Mike, what I think you are asking about is making journal entries after the 
date of the memory, but having it appear in chronological order.  Please 
correct me if I am wrong.   

What I did was to change the title of new journal tiddlers to be 
"-0MM-0DD".  New journal tiddler automatically get today's date, but if 
you have a memory, say from February 1 (2021-02-01), you can edit the 
journal tiddler title to get it in the correct chronological order.  A 
right side panel search will put them in chronological order. 

Stan 
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:13:05 AM UTC-5 mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing tool 
> that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
> 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

2021-03-06 Thread si

@Mike This is totally achievable in TiddlyWiki, but it depends on exactly 
how you want to store your data.

One approach would be to create a new tiddler for each memory that you want 
to capture, and then use a field to store the date that it occurred.

1. Create a new tiddler, tag it "Memory" (or whatever you want), and fill 
in the title and text as you please.
2. Go to "Add new field" at the bottom of the tiddler, and create a field 
called "memory-date" (or whatever you want), with the date as its value.
3. To generate a list of all memories and sort by date, from newest to 
oldest, you can add the following macro to another tiddler:

<>

One thing you might want to do is use the date-picker plugin 
 to make it easier to set the date:

1. Install the plugin as per the instructions on the site.
2. Create a new tiddler with whatever name you want, and tag it 
"$:/tags/ViewTemplate". This is a special tag that tells TiddlyWiki to 
automatically display the contents of the tiddler on every other tiddler in 
the wiki.
3. Add the following text to the tiddler:

<$list filter="[is[current]tag[Memory]]">
<$edit-date icon="$:/plugins/kixam/datepicker/icon" field="memory-date"/>

Now you will have a date picker icon on every tiddler with the tag 
"Memory". So you don't need to edit the field directly, just click on the 
icon and select the date.

On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 12:13:05 UTC mej...@gmail.com wrote:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing tool 
> that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
> 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar redesign idea

David:

I think it's an interesting addition to "minimalist" design concepts in 
which folks have been trying to reduce what they see as visible clutter.  
I've noticed my Tiddlers have been moving in this direction for several 
years.  However, I never really thought of applying this to the Sidebar 
area before now.  (Taken to its limits, a single pixel in the upper left 
corned of the focus area might be the ideal 'de-clutter'.)

Instead, in the Sidebar, I've used the standard Sidebar components to host 
CamelCase links to persistent entry points as a balance of the Ultimate 
possibility against practical efficienciess.

Your suggestion has piqued my interest in trying customizing the SideBar 
area.  I suspect this will end up being tailored by individual users for 
the own preferences and by Edition authors for their applications.

It will be interesting to see how far this proceeds.

Thanks for this idea "spark" as well as your many other contributions.

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:34:38 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Chris! 
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 4:05:23 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> I like it on my screen. I don't have strong feelings about it in general, 
>> but my first impression is that Control Panel access through the sidebar 
>> may be more intuitive than opening it in the story. That is affected by the 
>> sidebar width, of course. Then, given that you're putting more config stuff 
>> in the sidebar, it starts to make sense to have a hierarchy of tabs, and 
>> the Tools tab fits right in with the other Setup tabs -- except that 
>> occasionally it is useful as a collection of buttons I don't use a lot. 
>> That's the problem with a hierarchy...and not a specific problem with this 
>> idea.
>>
>> I guess the Work tab would be filled with whatever the author likes to 
>> have one click away.
>>
>> I think this is an interesting idea that caters for both newer TW admins 
>> and for wikis that have a separation between author and user, which are 
>> both good angles to explore.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:51:26 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and I am not trying to be conceited by my adding of my Toggle tab. 
>>> Just thinking that some of those items could be in those two areas...
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 2:50:30 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>>

 Hi all

 Don't know what got into me. Just an idea to reorganize the tabs 
 conceptually and move the control panel items into the tabs. This is just 
 slapped together and is not done properly. More like a proof of concept 
 than an actual thing. Looking for feedback more on the choices made rather 
 than the behind the scenes execution.

 https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.html

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: HackSearch - Find that shadowtid!

2021-03-06 Thread 'torax...@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki

The shadow tiddlers with $:/tags/ in them, which are way down at the bottom 
of the shadow list, which I use to reorder the list of buttons and what not

And the shadow tiddlers that have to do with exporting static tiddlers, 
which often need changes

Also, I posted that before reading on the site about customizing, so feel 
free to ignore...

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:05:28 AM UTC-6 Mat wrote:

> David Gifford wrote:
>
>> add more like $:/tags and static.
>>
>
> Could you elaborate a little what would show in such tabs?
> Thanx.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

 Hi Mike,

do you mean with "date that memory occured" the initial recording date? In 
that case you "only" have to sort the journal entries by 
tiddler-creation-timestamp. Filter:
[tag[Journal]sort[created]]

Tiddler-Text for display:





<$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]]">



<$link to=<> />

<$list 
filter="[get[created]]"><>





Cheers
Torax


mej...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 13:13:05 UTC+1:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing tool 
> that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
> 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

2021-03-06 Thread 'torax...@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki

Hi Mike,

do you mean with "date that memory occured" the initial recording date? In 
that case you "only" have to sort the journal entries by 
tiddler-creation-timestamp. Filter:
[tag[Journal]] +[sort[created]]

Tiddler-Text for display:





<$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]]">



<$link to=<> />

<$list 
filter="[get[created]]"><>






Cheers
Torax

mej...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 13:13:05 UTC+1:

> Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing tool 
> that it is.
>
> I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
>  for keeping a chronological record of special 
> family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.
>
> In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
> memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
> important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
> brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
> took place!
>
> For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
> Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
> based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.
>
> Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
> the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
> working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
> 5!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TW html file on Chrome & Firefox - Problem

2021-03-06 Thread 'torax...@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki

Mark, you might want to check out https://portableapps.com for starters.  
 I don't use it anymore, but used the system years ago with great success. 

Stan

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:46:23 PM UTC-5 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Due to security concerns at my work, I can't install any programs that 
> require installing from an .exe file. Can only 'install' so called 
> 'portable apps' that just need me to unzip a file somewhere on computer 
> drive.  So, unless there's a portable version of FF to install, I can't use 
> it on my work laptop. Hence, idea to use Chrome on MBP.
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Menu bar drop downs misplaced at right side

Here some additional information, so far I understand it. All based on the 
current git-checkout of the source-code.

The "troublemaker" is the reveal-widget in `menu.tid`, line 58:

```<$reveal type="popup" state=<> class={{{ 
[get[dropdown]get[class]] }}} tag="div">```

Reveal knows the positions `left`, `above`, `aboveleft`, `aboveright`, 
`right`, `belowleft`, `belowright` and `below`.
But all this positions are oriented on the position in relation to the 
activator-button and generating a left-aligned div-box.
Default is "below" hence the observed behavior and missing position 
attribute in the command.

So my problem can't be solved with the build in options, if I assume 
correct.
torax...@googlemail.com schrieb am Samstag, 6. März 2021 um 10:29:02 UTC+1:

> Hi @all,
>
> the “new” menu bar is really a bless, because now I’ve the whole screen to 
> operate and the wiki behaves a little bit like an application. The option 
> to place items on the right side via “float: right;” is also helpful. Only 
> annoyance is a drop down menu in this context: It is still aligned with the 
> left limit of the menu-item and so parts of the displayed popup-bubble is 
> displayed outside of the window.
>
> [image: pic1.jpg]
>
> While analyzing the problem I noticed, the pop-up derives its placement 
> coordinates from the -element. So is there a way to simple change the 
> placement instructions from “left” to “right”, if the style includes a 
> “float:right;”?
>
> [image: pic2.jpg]
>
> [image: pic3.jpg]
>
> Thanks for your Input.
>
> Cheers.
>
> ToraxMalu
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Sort journal posts by date that memory occurred

2021-03-06 Thread 'torax...@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki

Firstly, thank you to those involved in making TiddlyWiki the amazing tool 
that it is.

I currently use a proprietary journalling app called Day One 
 for keeping a chronological record of special 
family memories, but am keen to migrate to TiddlyWiki.

In Day One, all entries are automatically sorted by the date that the 
memory occurred, as opposed to when the entry was actually posted. This is 
important to me, because entries are usually added in retrospect and my 
brain doesn't always remember to add them in the order that they actually 
took place!

For example, if I add three memories that took place in this order on 1 
Jan; 1 Mar; 1 Feb, the entries automatically appear in descending order 
based on the date that the memory occurred like this: 1 Mar; 1 Feb; 1 Jan.

Is it possible to replicate this behaviour in TiddlyWiki? If so, what is 
the easiest way to set this up? I don't mind playing with things to get it 
working and have a technical background, but please do explain it like I'm 
5!

Kind regards,

Mike

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

2021-03-06 Thread arun babu

@Mark

Is it possible to make a dashboard in CarboCommander using dynamic tables 
in shiraz plug in or using TiddlyTables to view the DayLog of nutrient 
intake say for the last 30 days. 
I was planning to use Carbo Commander together with Odin's recipe plug in 
and a task manager plug in.

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 5:23:18 PM UTC+5:30 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Suddenly it makes a lot more sense :-)
>
>
> On Sunday, 27 May 2018 05:46:21 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Oops. You may have been wondering where the configuration menu was. It is 
>> supposed to appear at the bottom of the opening documentation, but was lost 
>> due to a last minute name tweak. Now restored.
>>
>> Sorry for the inconvenience ...
>> -- Mark
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] TOC generic - shows toc,backlinks,list and listed up front

2021-03-06 Thread arun babu

@HCHaase any updates regarding the release?

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 4:22:14 AM UTC+5:30 arun babu wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up. Can you add a configuration panel like in the 
> reference plug-in of TiddlyResearch 
>  to turn on and off 
> backlinks, freelinks, tags, lists as needed by the user (as shown in the 
> picture given below). I guess an exclude filter is on the roadmap as well.
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-20 at 4.18.32 AM.png]
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:48 PM HC Haase  wrote:
>
>> just  heads up. I am almost done implementing freelinks in the plugin. 
>> releasing soon
>>
>> fredag den 8. januar 2021 kl. 22.12.47 UTC+1 skrev arunn...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Hi HCHaase
>>>
>>> Can you please add highlighting for the linked words within each of the 
>>> transcluded tiddlers under links section of the references
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 12:20:01 AM UTC+5:30 
>>> arunnn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

 Thanks for the reply. 

 I have used inline editing of transcluded tiddlers with rider plug in 
 in my TWs (https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/rider-plugin/). I was 
 referring to a similar functionality.

 I have also seen such an implementation in this instance of TW (
 https://trisaster.github.io/#All%20Pages). See the reference section 
 where there is option to edit tiddlers by double clicking(since its using 
 streams plug in). I am not sure whether these references are transcluded 
 tiddlers or not.
  
 Regarding buttons, I don't have any ideas as of now. When I have more 
 ideas, I will share it here. When there are many references, these buttons 
 are actually useful. It looks slightly odd when there a few references 
 only. 
 On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 5:54:09 PM UTC+5:30 haas...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I found this plug in recently only and it is very useful in handling 
>> backlinks. Thanks for making such a nice plug in. I think this plug in 
>> has 
>> the best UI among the plug ins which handle backlinks 
>>
> Thanks. Glad to hear it.
>  
>
>> (Although I might prefer less no of buttons).
>>
> feel free to share any ideas! 
>
>> Is there any plan to include free links also as a part of the plug in 
>> as you had told in an earlier post ?
>>
>>
>> yes. I have not been working on tw for some time now but I will get 
> on it soon. 
>
> >Can you please add the option to edit the transcluded tiddlers within 
> the reference lists itself  
> maybe... if I can find a simple way to do it. 
> Is this a crucial feature? you can always just click the grey box and 
> go to the tiddler. I am not criticising your request, just thinking out 
> loud. 
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[tw5] Way of organising and transcluding things

2021-03-06 Thread Ray Vermey

Hi all

My current way of organising my tiddles is as follows:

Mainly i create a Journal tiddler everyday with title of the date and put
in there the things i've done, like so:

---
Call with [[JohnDoe]] to organise event. He thoughtbla..
He also asked bla

Student [[MaryDoe]] mailed me the contract for internship at company
[[CompDoe]]

Send schedule to [[StudentDoe]] like agreed
---

Something that way...
So i have a list of dated Journals and i can see what ive did that day when
i click the tiddler.

Now i wanted to be able to click on the say [[MaryDoe]] in a tiddler and i
would like to see only the line (until the ) so that i get all the info
over time i wrote about Mary
I need to extract that lines of text from all tiddlers where she appears i
think.
Not sure how to do that. So in a way i see all her history in one view.

But... then i was thinking: why not create a separate tiddler called
MaryDoe and put in there every new stuff on the days i have to do something
for her, or when she contacts me etc..
That would make things easier when i retrieve her historical data because
when i click her title the information shows up because it us all in one
tiddler.

Now i only would like to have some way of knowing on what days i updated
her tiddler.
So the historical view is visible.

Am i thinkinkg the right way or is there another way of realising this??

I feel for the seperate tiddlers approach but how can i see an overview
like:

1 Mar 21 : Action so and so

3 Jan 21: Call so and so

31Dec20: Lines of text added on this day.
This is also the line of text added this day..

Any thoughts??

CHeers

Ray

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

2021-03-06 Thread PMario

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:37:17 PM UTC+1 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Diego,

To others, can someone help me understand why my posts often don't get many
> (if any) response? The first time this was posted it also inspired almost
> no response. This time as well. This happens to several of my posts, so I'm
> curious as to my "disconnect" with the community somehow.
>

Your OP is very detailed and well written, which is good. On the other hand
it will need some time to read it, and probably a lot more time to respond.

I did create the uni-link plugin, which you named several times in the OP.
... I think "some" of your requests may be possible with uni-link
extensions and others may be easier using a new "concept", instead of
linking. ... BUT ... I have to think about it.

Technically the link [[alias|?]] calls the <> macro
.

aka = also known as ..

I did already think about a syntax like this: [[alias name|!macro-name]]
... The problem with macro-calls is, that many of them need more than 1
parameters. ... So we need a way to call macros and give them enough
additional information, that they can do something useful.

I do have a new plugin in the making, that may be able to solve this
problem. eg: 『?:"alias-name":"relation type" text to be shown』

The aka macro call can already be detected as an "alias backlink", if the
uni-link plugin is installed. ... So it should be possible to create "new
relational" backlinks logic, that can be detected ...

So a combination of the new Custom Markup Plugin and the Uni-link plugin
may solve several of the mentioned problems.

... But as I wrote, ... I need to think about it.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

2021-03-06 Thread maki aea

hi diego, re: the posts thing, for me part of it is i am mostly on mobile, 
and it is relatively painful (probably just haven't figured out a good way) 
to reply to messages on google groups, without using a text editor and 
copying the text back in to a message to post. maybe there is a guide 
somewhere for gg newbies but this page suggests it's intended behaviour 
https://gatlabs.com/blogpost/improved-mobile-interface-for-google-groups/

it makes it hard to continue to reply in a conversation as there is a lot 
of friction for a mobile user, so the bar for replying is raised somewhat 
from where it could be.

in agreement with david, posting time is probably relevant, in this case i 
can reply only because pretty much my only free time during the week is 
right now and i can switch to an ipad to do it!

regarding your original linking topic, i might be speaking for a lot of 
newbies who have never heard of unilink until now, and like me are still 
getting our heads around the "extended external link"! but reading your 
post and everyone's replies lets that knowledge percolate in (i hope) and 
kickstarts my own thinking about "issues of concern", which is super 
helpful, so thank you for posting, though i wouldn't normally reply as i 
currently don't know enough of the background to this to contribute 
something directly useful.

so it got me thinking about things like discovering anwiki exists; for new 
users we are heavily dependent on search as we don't know enough yet to see 
why example wikis might be relevant to our particular situation (david's 
list)

but this also makes the window for contributing to gg posts very narrow, 
unless you are already at the matching level of knowledge, AND watching the 
group/able to find the post, AND have means to reply, AND have something 
ready to contribute

so for example here a tw newbie might not understand yet how super 
interesting your topic is, because it is so "meta", i.e. 
thinking-about-thinking; or another example peter's firebase backend on the 
tw dev gg/tw github discussion which is also super cool and useful, or, 
well, pretty much everyone's contribution on this group once we get our 
heads around how useful it is!

whereas a gg newbie like me has trouble just replying in the first place, i 
mean, i have to stop now because i had to spend a while figuring out touch 
focus required to scroll this reply and the post on safari desktop mode on 
the ipad :)

some things will semi-randomly catch fire and become popular, keep up the 
great work everyone!

until next time xx
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 2:44:47 PM UTC David Gifford wrote:

> It's pretty random. Sometimes I get three or four people with replies and 
> solutions, other times I have to bump threads to get them noticed. Also 
> note that if you post on a Friday night or the weekend, you may not get a 
> reply until the new week. At least I have found that at times. I did read 
> your original post, but you are asking for input on something above my 
> technical skill, so I didn't have anything to say. Blessings
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:37:17 AM UTC-6 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Joshua 
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> To others, can someone help me understand why my posts often don't get 
>> many (if any) response?  The first time this was posted it also inspired 
>> almost no response. This time as well. This happens to several of my posts, 
>> so I'm curious as to my "disconnect" with the community somehow. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:27:43 PM UTC-6 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If we did add a relationship type to links, it helps to unpack the 
>>> WikiText version of Links into their <$link> widget equivalent.
>>>
>>> [[LinkText|CurrentTiddler]] unpacks to the following "parse tree" json 
>>> in the internal javascript
>>> ```
>>> { type: "link", attributes: { to: {type: "string", value: link} }, 
>>> children: [{ type: "text", text: text }
>>> ```
>>> which is the equivalent to typing:
>>> ```
>>> <$link to="CurrentTiddler"><$text text="LinkText"/>
>>> ```
>>>
>>> Now, as we want "typed" links to other tiddlers, and probably not to 
>>> external resources (hey, make a tiddler that points there), then we can 
>>> re-use the pattern fro the "extended external link" WikiText, and the 
>>> "extended image" WikiText. It would look something like:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> [type:relationship[LinkText|CurrentTiddler]]
>>> ```
>>> which would then render as
>>> ```
>>> { type: "link", attributes: { to: {type: "string", value: link}, type: 
>>> {type: "string", value: type} }, children: [{ type: "text", text: text }
>>> ```
>>> and be the equivalent of typing
>>> ```
>>> <$link to="CurrentTiddler" type="relationship"><$text 
>>> text="LinkText"/>
>>> ```
>>>
>>> So, you could not use referenced (transcluded, macro, variable) data for 
>>> the type in the WikiText version, but you could in the full Widget version.
>>>
>>> Something to think about
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>

[tw5] Menu bar drop downs misplaced at right side

 

Hi @all,

the “new” menu bar is really a bless, because now I’ve the whole screen to 
operate and the wiki behaves a little bit like an application. The option 
to place items on the right side via “float: right;” is also helpful. Only 
annoyance is a drop down menu in this context: It is still aligned with the 
left limit of the menu-item and so parts of the displayed popup-bubble is 
displayed outside of the window.

[image: pic1.jpg]

While analyzing the problem I noticed, the pop-up derives its placement 
coordinates from the -element. So is there a way to simple change the 
placement instructions from “left” to “right”, if the style includes a 
“float:right;”?

[image: pic2.jpg]

[image: pic3.jpg]

Thanks for your Input.

Cheers.

ToraxMalu




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[tw5] Re: TiddlyStretch: stretchtext in TiddlyWiki