date:20210311

Hi Chris,
 Thank you for your reply!
  Yes, I think so, getting to sort out the vanilla palette and try removing
extra selectors is a tough job!
 I like to know what Jeremy thinks about this.


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 5:26 AM clutterstack  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I very much agree that the palette is very uncomfortable to tweak
> selector-by-selector.
>
> I think this has grown organically and cleaning it up (or rethinking the
> impact of changing it) is a tedious job. What breaks if we don't have all
> the selectors currently in Vanilla? I haven't investigated (except
> occasionally by accident, ha).
>
> There are a bunch of "wikilist" ones at the end that I think are for
> TiddlyDesktop(?) and so add to the number without making the TW theming
> more complicated.
>
> I haven't looked (and I should, if I'm going to be playing with this sort
> of thing), but I would guess that there are themes out there that don't
> need Vanilla, with fewer selectors.
>
> I'm rambling. I agree with what you say. At the moment, it seems to me
> that grouping some selectors together, as I'm doing, but perhaps a bit less
> aggressively (or more aggressively?) will make it easier for users to make
> themes without making any changes to the core.
>
> Thomas Elmiger and Jeremy have evidently been thinking about colour and
> colour harmony tools for some time, from the thread you referenced
> (Jeremy's response and TT's link to telmiger's colour tools page).
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette
>> 
>>
>> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
>> 2. Open the Advanced search
>> 
>> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>>
>> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>>
>> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Indirect Filter Lists

2021-03-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This would typically require a technique called recursion. But rather than 
writing your own from scratch, you can use the kin filter available here 
.

After you have it installed and loaded, you could use a nested set of list 
widgets like this:

<$list filter="[tag[Company]]" variable="company">
<$list filter="[kin::from:compare:string:eq[Germany]]">
<>



to find all companies that are descendants of "Germany".

BTW, when did New York become a country? ;-)

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:52:52 PM UTC-8 benedikt@web.de wrote:

> Hi,
> I have the following task
> I have Tiddlers taged as Country, City or Company
> Every City is also tagged with the country and every Company is also 
> tagged with city where it is located.
> Example:
> 'Germany' tagged as 'Country'
> 'USA' tagged as 'Country'
> 'Berlin' tagged as 'City' and 'Germany'
> 'Munic' tagged as 'City' and 'Germany'
> 'New York" tagged as 'Country' and 'USA'
> 'Comp1' tagged as 'Company' and 'Munic'
> 'Comp2' tagged as 'Company' and 'Berlin
> 'Comp3' tagged as 'Company' and 'Berlin'
> 'Comp4' tagged as 'Company' and 'New York'
>
> Now I want a list with all Companies in Germany  
> Is there a way to create this with a filter?
> like tag[Company]tag[tag[Germany]]
>
> Thanks
> Benedikt
>

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[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Thanks Álvaro!

if it succeeded it could be grouped again to simplify the palette or to 
> assign the colors more easily.
>
Yes, that could be an approach.
 

> To assign the colors, I had thought of using the contrast ratio to suggest 
> colors for the background once the foreground was chosen.
>
> I wonder if the the contrastcolour macro 
 
in core (for tag pills) might help with that in the short term. 

Best,
Chris


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[tw5] Re: [Requesting feedback] Customizer plugin

Looking nice, David. I think this will help make TW more friendly to 
newcomers. The "create your own add-ons" tab is intriguing!

Best,
Chris

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:30:03 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Moved this project forward a bit. It should be much easier to see what I 
> am going for, re: add-ons. 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:12:21 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I am almost done with the Customizer plugin. Requesting any feedback 
>> before I write the instructions, package the plugins, and package the 
>> addons.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>>
>> Thanks to Mohammad for help with converting it to a single button with 
>> two tabs.
>>
>> Note that the backlinks options and sidebar options I have listed will be 
>> independent of the plugin, available as add-ons.
>>
>> There is now the ability to reorder sidebar segments right in the sidebar 
>> tab of the Customizer button. 
>>
>> I also created a prototype of a Book tools sidebar (glossary, 
>> bibliography, table of contents). 
>>
>> Anyone can create custom view template elements and sidebar segments by 
>> tagging a tiddler $:/giffmex/viewtemplate or $:/giffmex/sidebarsegments, so 
>> if you don't like my baclkink stuff and sidebar stuff, you can make your 
>> own and even share them on your own sites to use with this plugin. I am 
>> trying to make this as flexible and usable as possible.
>>
>> Blessings, Dave
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

Hi Mohammad,

I very much agree that the palette is very uncomfortable to tweak 
selector-by-selector.

I think this has grown organically and cleaning it up (or rethinking the 
impact of changing it) is a tedious job. What breaks if we don't have all 
the selectors currently in Vanilla? I haven't investigated (except 
occasionally by accident, ha).

There are a bunch of "wikilist" ones at the end that I think are for 
TiddlyDesktop(?) and so add to the number without making the TW theming 
more complicated. 

I haven't looked (and I should, if I'm going to be playing with this sort 
of thing), but I would guess that there are themes out there that don't 
need Vanilla, with fewer selectors.

I'm rambling. I agree with what you say. At the moment, it seems to me that 
grouping some selectors together, as I'm doing, but perhaps a bit less 
aggressively (or more aggressively?) will make it easier for users to make 
themes without making any changes to the core.

Thomas Elmiger and Jeremy have evidently been thinking about colour and 
colour harmony tools for some time, from the thread you referenced 
(Jeremy's response and TT's link to telmiger's colour tools page).

Best,
Chris

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette 
> 
>
> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
> 2. Open the Advanced search  
> 
> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>
> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>
> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

I am faced with a strange issue however. With the aforementioned code, no 
matter how I want to format the nested list, all the results come like this:
title title title

Like,
English Italian Spanish
etc.

even if I try to put a  or something else. I even tried to make 2 
nested list, one with first[] and one with butfirst[] to try and put some 
commas between titles, to no availe: it always comes like that. Sigh!

On Friday, 12 March 2021 at 01:29:45 UTC+1 Alessandro Gianni wrote:

> I actually found my own solution, which I like best (for now)... And it's 
> quite reminds me of yours. Like, if only I saw it earlier! :)
>
> <$list filter="[fields[]] 
> :intersection[tag[languages]get[codename]]" variable="lang">
> <$list filter="[tag[languages]field:codename]">
> <$link/>
> 
> 
>
> this requires that John has an english field (with any value) and the 
> English tiddler has a codename:english field (all because field names can't 
> have uppercase or spaces or whatever...!).
>
> Thanks a lot guys! Learning to properly use operators seems to be quite a 
> powerful tech for tiddlywiki.
> On Friday, 12 March 2021 at 00:26:57 UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> And ignore that last sentence, I revised that part out and forgot to 
>> remove the sentence. :)
>>
>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>
>>> You could add a field on the language tiddler called, e.g., 
>>> *language_name* containing *english* or whatever the part after 
>>> *language_* would be in your person tiddlers, then something like:
>>>
>>> <$list 
>>> filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]removeprefix[language_]]" 
>>> variable="lang">
>>> <$list filter="[tag[languages]language_name]">
>>> ...insert list item for each language tiddler here
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Obviously you could replace the list-links with whatever logic you want 
>>> for filtering by fluency.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-6 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 but this wouldn't let me have a linked list (the tiddler would be 
 called English, not languange_english), not to mention that having 
 language_english as plain text seems kinda ugly. Or am I missing something?
 On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 19:28:52 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> What if instead of:
> fieldname: language_english
> value: English
>
> you used:
>
> fieldname: language_english
> value: fluency_level, e.g: 1
>
> So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the 
> person speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of 
> the field name after the hyphen.
> The value of the field gives you the fluency.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! 
>> :)
>>
>> Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
>> people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
>> languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.
>>
>> my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages 
>> he speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I 
>> could 
>> fit in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but 
>> let's not get ahead of ourself.
>>
>> my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people 
>> tiddlers:
>> fieldname: language_english
>> value: English
>>
>> fieldname: language_french
>> value: French
>>
>> and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
>> variable="language">
>> <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
>> <$link to=<>/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it 
>> won't let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the 
>> languages in which John is fluent.
>>
>> My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how 
>> to process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a 
>> comparison with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:
>>
>> each page has a field codename, for example:
>> fieldname: codename   value: english
>>
>> compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
>> fieldname: english   value: 1
>>
>> and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].
>>
>> something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
>> compare:number:gt[0]]
>>
>> This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, 
>> etc.) and being able to define and filter even further.
>>
>> Thank you again for your time!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

2021-03-11 Thread Álvaro

Great initiative!

A long time ago I was looking at how to easily make color palettes, but it 
became a headache for so many "components" and their parts where to assign 
colors. As you looked at grouping by "components" but it is complicated 
because they have different amounts of parts (2 to 4) in the palette and if 
it succeeded it could be grouped again to simplify the palette or to assign 
the colors more easily.

To assign the colors, I had thought of using the contrast ratio to suggest 
colors for the background once the foreground was chosen.

But I started to get stuck a lot ...

Best wishes!

El jueves, 11 de marzo de 2021 a las 15:45:05 UTC+1, clutterstack escribió:

> Further to my last post, I don't guarantee the palettes generated here are 
> fit for purpose! :D
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:42:20 AM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Thanks TT,
>>
>> The only thing I find confusing is HOW to save a new palette set?
>>> Obviously end-users will be looking to save to new names & activate new 
>>> palettes they make. 
>>> It is just not so clear how to do that I think??
>>>
>>
>> That's because I didn't build that yet. :D However, if you are using the 
>> Vanilla theme and want to keep a palette, putting a copy of the  
>> $:/plugins/can/moods/palettes/Omelette 
>> tiddler into your TW should work. The plugin provides this tiddler, and 
>> "overwrites" it as you change things.
>>
>>>
>>> Purely FYI, Telmiger some time ago attempted to make a "Color Action 
>>> "
>>>  
>>> thing that tries to deal with "colour harmony" issues that Jermolene refers 
>>> to.  
>>> It is somewhat obscure how it works but I mention it because you might 
>>> be able to benefit from seeing at least the concept behind it.
>>>
>>> This is full of good stuff, thanks for the heads-up. And I see David has 
>> it in the TW Toolmap, so it's discoverable (I hadn't looked until you 
>> mentioned it).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Chris
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

I actually found my own solution, which I like best (for now)... And it's 
quite reminds me of yours. Like, if only I saw it earlier! :)

<$list filter="[fields[]] 
:intersection[tag[languages]get[codename]]" variable="lang">
<$list filter="[tag[languages]field:codename]">
<$link/>



this requires that John has an english field (with any value) and the 
English tiddler has a codename:english field (all because field names can't 
have uppercase or spaces or whatever...!).

Thanks a lot guys! Learning to properly use operators seems to be quite a 
powerful tech for tiddlywiki.
On Friday, 12 March 2021 at 00:26:57 UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> And ignore that last sentence, I revised that part out and forgot to 
> remove the sentence. :)
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> You could add a field on the language tiddler called, e.g., 
>> *language_name* containing *english* or whatever the part after 
>> *language_* would be in your person tiddlers, then something like:
>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]removeprefix[language_]]" 
>> variable="lang">
>> <$list filter="[tag[languages]language_name]">
>> ...insert list item for each language tiddler here
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Obviously you could replace the list-links with whatever logic you want 
>> for filtering by fluency.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-6 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> but this wouldn't let me have a linked list (the tiddler would be called 
>>> English, not languange_english), not to mention that having 
>>> language_english as plain text seems kinda ugly. Or am I missing something?
>>> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 19:28:52 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 What if instead of:
 fieldname: language_english
 value: English

 you used:

 fieldname: language_english
 value: fluency_level, e.g: 1

 So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the 
 person speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of 
 the field name after the hyphen.
 The value of the field gives you the fluency.



 On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)
>
> Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
> people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
> languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.
>
> my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages 
> he speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could 
> fit in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but 
> let's not get ahead of ourself.
>
> my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people 
> tiddlers:
> fieldname: language_english
> value: English
>
> fieldname: language_french
> value: French
>
> and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
> variable="language">
> <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
> <$link to=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it 
> won't let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the 
> languages in which John is fluent.
>
> My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
> process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a 
> comparison 
> with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:
>
> each page has a field codename, for example:
> fieldname: codename   value: english
>
> compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
> fieldname: english   value: 1
>
> and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].
>
> something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
> compare:number:gt[0]]
>
> This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, 
> etc.) and being able to define and filter even further.
>
> Thank you again for your time!
>
>

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[tw5] Indirect Filter Lists

2021-03-11 Thread Benedikt Aufermann

Hi,
I have the following task
I have Tiddlers taged as Country, City or Company
Every City is also tagged with the country and every Company is also tagged 
with city where it is located.
Example:
'Germany' tagged as 'Country'
'USA' tagged as 'Country'
'Berlin' tagged as 'City' and 'Germany'
'Munic' tagged as 'City' and 'Germany'
'New York" tagged as 'Country' and 'USA'
'Comp1' tagged as 'Company' and 'Munic'
'Comp2' tagged as 'Company' and 'Berlin
'Comp3' tagged as 'Company' and 'Berlin'
'Comp4' tagged as 'Company' and 'New York'

Now I want a list with all Companies in Germany  
Is there a way to create this with a filter?
like tag[Company]tag[tag[Germany]]

Thanks
Benedikt

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[tw5] Re: Creating an Index list using fields.

2021-03-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Create a tiddler and give it a caption field with the value "Index". Tag it 
with $:/tags/SideBar . Put these contents in it:

<$vars mysort="[get[lastname]addsuffix[firstname]]">
<]">>


This should do what you have asked, though there is room for improvement.


On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-8 fenn...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm sorry if this is a repeat, but I did search and couldn't find an 
> answer to this question.
>
> I have been using Tiddlywiki for sometime now but use basically it as a 
> database to store news articles I am interested in, I also create 
> hyper-links to individuals, places, events, etc. named in the articles and 
> have a sort of template I use to save information into separate tiddlers 
> about individuals, places, events, etc.
>
> I want to create an index tiddler that can be in a side tab.  I need to 
> list all the tiddlers that have a field of "tiddlertype" = "Person" or 
> "person"  and then list those tiddlers alphabetically by fields "lastname", 
> "firstname"
>
> This seems like it should be simple to do, but I can't find examples 
> anywhere, although I'd like to learn how to do this simple type of coding I 
> don't really know where to start.  If anyone can suggest to me how to do 
> this (or write the code if its not too difficult), it would be greatly 
> appreciated.  If anyone can suggest the most basic resource for a very 
> beginner for learning to do simple coding in Tiddlywiki it would also be 
> appreciated.  I have been to the tiddlywiki site as well as github and seen 
> examples of code but I just have no idea of how to start to make this work. 
> Sorry to be dense.
>
> Thank-you
>
> Steve
>

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[tw5] A question regarding radio buttons

2021-03-11 Thread The Scribe

I have been following the instructions giving in Soren’s video to set up a 
reading list (although mine is a different type of list). I’ve set up radio 
buttons, in the video they were for “read” and “unread”, which I’ve adapted for 
my own use. However, I’d like to add a third option to show all, ie show the 
entire list. How can I do this please?

Best wishes,
Karen

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

And ignore that last sentence, I revised that part out and forgot to remove 
the sentence. :)

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-6 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> You could add a field on the language tiddler called, e.g., 
> *language_name* containing *english* or whatever the part after 
> *language_* would be in your person tiddlers, then something like:
>
> <$list 
> filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]removeprefix[language_]]" 
> variable="lang">
> <$list filter="[tag[languages]language_name]">
> ...insert list item for each language tiddler here
> 
> 
>
> Obviously you could replace the list-links with whatever logic you want 
> for filtering by fluency.
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-6 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> but this wouldn't let me have a linked list (the tiddler would be called 
>> English, not languange_english), not to mention that having 
>> language_english as plain text seems kinda ugly. Or am I missing something?
>> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 19:28:52 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> What if instead of:
>>> fieldname: language_english
>>> value: English
>>>
>>> you used:
>>>
>>> fieldname: language_english
>>> value: fluency_level, e.g: 1
>>>
>>> So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the person 
>>> speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of the field 
>>> name after the hyphen.
>>> The value of the field gives you the fluency.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)

 Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
 people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
 languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.

 my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages 
 he speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could 
 fit in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but 
 let's not get ahead of ourself.

 my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people 
 tiddlers:
 fieldname: language_english
 value: English

 fieldname: language_french
 value: French

 and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
 <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
 variable="language">
 <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
 <$link to=<>/>

 Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it 
 won't let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the 
 languages in which John is fluent.

 My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
 process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a 
 comparison 
 with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:

 each page has a field codename, for example:
 fieldname: codename   value: english

 compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
 fieldname: english   value: 1

 and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].

 something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
 compare:number:gt[0]]

 This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, etc.) 
 and being able to define and filter even further.

 Thank you again for your time!

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

You could add a field on the language tiddler called, e.g., *language_name* 
containing 
*english* or whatever the part after *language_* would be in your person 
tiddlers, then something like:

<$list 
filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]removeprefix[language_]]" 
variable="lang">
<$list filter="[tag[languages]language_name]">
...insert list item for each language tiddler here



Obviously you could replace the list-links with whatever logic you want for 
filtering by fluency.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-6 dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> but this wouldn't let me have a linked list (the tiddler would be called 
> English, not languange_english), not to mention that having 
> language_english as plain text seems kinda ugly. Or am I missing something?
> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 19:28:52 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What if instead of:
>> fieldname: language_english
>> value: English
>>
>> you used:
>>
>> fieldname: language_english
>> value: fluency_level, e.g: 1
>>
>> So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the person 
>> speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of the field 
>> name after the hyphen.
>> The value of the field gives you the fluency.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)
>>>
>>> Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
>>> people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
>>> languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.
>>>
>>> my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages he 
>>> speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could fit 
>>> in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but let's 
>>> not get ahead of ourself.
>>>
>>> my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people tiddlers:
>>> fieldname: language_english
>>> value: English
>>>
>>> fieldname: language_french
>>> value: French
>>>
>>> and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
>>> variable="language">
>>> <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
>>> <$link to=<>/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it 
>>> won't let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the 
>>> languages in which John is fluent.
>>>
>>> My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
>>> process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a comparison 
>>> with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:
>>>
>>> each page has a field codename, for example:
>>> fieldname: codename   value: english
>>>
>>> compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
>>> fieldname: english   value: 1
>>>
>>> and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].
>>>
>>> something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
>>> compare:number:gt[0]]
>>>
>>> This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, etc.) 
>>> and being able to define and filter even further.
>>>
>>> Thank you again for your time!
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

Believe me, I've been looking at them for days, and only now it struck me 
how to use them. I'm still trying to understand if there's a formula to 
have only 2 action-setfield performing the whole operation (one for the 
first field and one for the second, that needs the first to compute). Thanks
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 23:39:42 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just transposed your calculations exactly as they were, as I wasn't sure 
> of the logic or which of the interim values you might need.
>
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Expression for an explanation on = 
> and + prefixes for filter runs.
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:50:58 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> While looking for solutions to my other problem (where you replied!), I 
>> found another solution to this by using =[field] =[field] +[sum[]] and 
>> +[product[]]. I didn't know how = and + worked, and I don't know if this is 
>> simpler - it has way less stratification of vars - but it works nonetheless.
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
>> =[get[level1]] =[get[level2]] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>>
>> <$vars
>> hps={{{ [{!!class}get[hd]multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}
>> hp1={{{ =[get[level1]] =[{!!class}get[hd]] +[product[]] 
>> }}}
>> hp2={{{ =[get[level2]] =[{!!class2}get[hd]] +[product[]] 
>> }}}
>> hocon={{{ =[get[modcon]] =[get[level]] 
>> +[product[]] }}}>
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
>> $value={{{ =[] =[] =[] =[] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>>
>> 
>> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 17:30:53 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The key is that you cannot access the value of a variable, within the 
>>> same vars widget that sets it.
>>>
>>> So this:
>>>  <$vars a=2 b=3 c=a+b>
>>>
>>> Should be:
>>>
>>> <$vars a=2 b=3>
>>> <$vars c=a+b>
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

I just transposed your calculations exactly as they were, as I wasn't sure 
of the logic or which of the interim values you might need.

See https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Expression for an explanation on = and 
+ prefixes for filter runs.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:50:58 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> While looking for solutions to my other problem (where you replied!), I 
> found another solution to this by using =[field] =[field] +[sum[]] and 
> +[product[]]. I didn't know how = and + worked, and I don't know if this is 
> simpler - it has way less stratification of vars - but it works nonetheless.
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
> =[get[level1]] =[get[level2]] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>
> <$vars
> hps={{{ [{!!class}get[hd]multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}
> hp1={{{ =[get[level1]] =[{!!class}get[hd]] +[product[]] }}}
> hp2={{{ =[get[level2]] =[{!!class2}get[hd]] +[product[]] 
> }}}
> hocon={{{ =[get[modcon]] =[get[level]] 
> +[product[]] }}}>
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
> $value={{{ =[] =[] =[] =[] +[sum[]] }}}/>
>
> 
> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 17:30:53 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The key is that you cannot access the value of a variable, within the 
>> same vars widget that sets it.
>>
>> So this:
>>  <$vars a=2 b=3 c=a+b>
>>
>> Should be:
>>
>> <$vars a=2 b=3>
>> <$vars c=a+b>
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: SheetsIN - Import from Google Sheets into TW

2021-03-11 Thread Álvaro


Great work! Thank you to you both!
El miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2021 a las 18:16:14 UTC+1, Mohammad escribió:

> Congrats Mark and Mat!
> Very useful indeed with many opportunities!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 12:47 PM Mat  wrote:
>
>> There is (1) Good news (2) HUGE news and (3) Bad news!
>>
>> The good news is: Mark and I have made a TW plugin to import from Google 
>> Sheets. *Every row becomes a tiddler*!
>>
>> The HUGE news is that this is the *linchpin*, the *kingpin*, *the **Rosetta 
>> Stone*, to turn pretty much anything into tiddlers because Google Sheets 
>> can be made to import data from *other *services such as your Google 
>> Drive, your Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, your GCalendar, stock charts and 
>> hundreds (thousands?) of more services 
>> . Whatever you want 
>> as tiddlers, you can get it. OK, almost.
>>
>> The bad news is: The SheetsIN plugin is only HALF of the solution! We 
>> need a SheetsOUT plugin to get tiddlers *into* Google Sheets. If this 
>> were possible, Google Sheets can then be used as a full backend for TW... 
>> *and 
>> *tiddlers can be sent as email, tweets, calendar events, etc etc. 
>>
>> So, if you have knowledge about how to "export to Google Sheets" do 
>> please shout out.
>>
>> Thus, *Mark S *and I proudly give thee the first half of the *TiddlyGoo 
>> suite* ;-)
>>
>>- Demo and download site 
>>- Github repository for dev  
>>
>> We also hope people will share their Google scripts 
>>  (!) that connect Google 
>> Sheets with other services. This is only indirectly a TW matter but will 
>> benefit us all. I will soon share a script that imports file data from 
>> Drive to Sheets so you easily show images stored on Drive in TW.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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[tw5] Creating an Index list using fields.

2021-03-11 Thread Steve Fenner

I'm sorry if this is a repeat, but I did search and couldn't find an answer
to this question.

I have been using Tiddlywiki for sometime now but use basically it as a
database to store news articles I am interested in, I also create
hyper-links to individuals, places, events, etc. named in the articles and
have a sort of template I use to save information into separate tiddlers
about individuals, places, events, etc.

I want to create an index tiddler that can be in a side tab. I need to
list all the tiddlers that have a field of "tiddlertype" = "Person" or
"person" and then list those tiddlers alphabetically by fields "lastname",
"firstname"

This seems like it should be simple to do, but I can't find examples
anywhere, although I'd like to learn how to do this simple type of coding I
don't really know where to start. If anyone can suggest to me how to do
this (or write the code if its not too difficult), it would be greatly
appreciated. If anyone can suggest the most basic resource for a very
beginner for learning to do simple coding in Tiddlywiki it would also be
appreciated. I have been to the tiddlywiki site as well as github and seen
examples of code but I just have no idea of how to start to make this work.
Sorry to be dense.

Thank-you

Steve

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Re: [tw5] FLOSS Weekly interview with Jeremy

2021-03-11 Thread Álvaro

Thanks for sharing!

It is very interesting how you see the zoomin story view. I didn't 
understand it. It is great but I think that I need something more, maybe a 
(mini)map or/and history/path of navigation. Maybe a intermediate point 
between roam nodes and the "open" tab. I would need it to be able to locate 
myself. 

El jueves, 11 de marzo de 2021 a las 6:59:26 UTC+1, Mohammad escribió:

> Lovely! Thank you Jeremy!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 2:39 AM Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>> I've just recorded an interview with Doc Searls' FLOSS Weekly podcast:
>>
>> https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/620?autostart=false
>>
>> Doc and I have worked together years ago, but the other host Jonathan 
>> Bennet hadn't come across TiddlyWiki before, and had some nicely framed 
>> questions so we spent most of the time talking about TiddlyWiki stuff. It's 
>> probably all the same things that you may have heard me say in other 
>> interviewers, but I really enjoyed it, and hope it is interesting for 
>> others.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

I'm really liking the idea of piggybacking on the existing extended link 
syntax -- better than the versions I suggested off the top of my head in my 
original post. And thanks for the technical background.

On not wanting to put arbitrary text between the [['s: this seems like 
exactly the same issue that we have with filter operators/fields, so could 
we use the same solution? Have a hard-coded string *?* or *type* or 
something that serves as an unambiguous syntax, and then people can choose 
to use that or not (this would also let them call a relationship, e.g., 
*img*). If they use the implicit form and someone else later comes along 
and overloads it to mean something else, then that's on them to go back and 
add the full format to disambiguate it.

Mark, for more on the use case, also see my post 
 that 
Diego mentioned in the OP.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:41:42 AM UTC-6 PMario wrote:

> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:14:38 PM UTC+1 PMario wrote:
>
> title: Jack 
>> [? stepson[Joe]], [? daughter[Jill]] and [? wife[Jane]] 
>>
>
> Some technical background. At the moment TW builds the "backlink" 
> information at "parsing time", when the parse-tree is created. Parsing the 
> tiddler content is a very "heavy weight" function. .. It need quite some 
> CPU cycles. ... That's why this info is cached and only recreated if a 
> tiddler changes. 
>
> If someone uses the eg: backlinks[] 
>  operator, the TW core has 
> to touch every tiddler and parse it. Then it internally searches the 
> parse-tree for a pattern like: 
>
> "type": "link",
> "attributes": {
>   "to": {
>   "type": "string", 
>   "value": "Joe" 
>   } 
> }, 
>
> and it stores some info in the indexer. ... Since we have to "run" all 
> this code already, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to add additional 
> info to the link structure. eg:
>
> "type": "link",
> "attributes": {
>   "to": {
>   "type": "string", 
>   "value": "Joe" 
>   },
>   "relation": {
>   "type": "string", 
>   "value": "stepson" 
>   } 
> }, 
>
> In a second step, this info can be "indexed" and we can create filter 
> operators for it. 
>
> -mario
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Breakthrough TW video (new)

2021-03-11 Thread The Scribe

Thanks for taking the time to do this video, Soren. I’ve used TW for almost 20 
years and learned more in the hour I watched the video than in that 20 years of 
using it. I never knew it could do so much. I used the video to set up a new TW 
last night and I’m going well because of you. 

I just wanted to say thanks, and encourage you to do more videos showing us how 
to do other things that we (meaning I) had no idea TW could do, such as setting 
up a website, or how to create a contact page.

Kind regards,
Karen

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> On 11 Mar 2021, at 2:31 pm, Soren Bjornstad  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, I tweaked this a little bit and put it in!
> 
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:35:51 PM UTC-6 sai.k.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thank you for this video, Soren.
>> 
>> I have tried to create time stamps for various things that Soren demoed in 
>> the video.
>> 
>> [2:36](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=156)
>> Theme tweaks to change the sidebar size
>> 
>> [11:20](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=680)
>> List Macro and Table Widget Creation
>> 
>> [31:00](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=1860)
>> Nice Display of Reading List Tiddler
>> 
>> [34:31](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=2071)
>> Creating a template
>> 
>> [38:35](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=2315)
>> Take Notes on Tiddlers and create Flash cards
>> 
>> [40:49](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=2449)
>> Flashcards
>> 
>> [43:34](https://youtu.be/vsdDs7oOLlg?t=2614)Ratings and Reviews
>> 
>> Soren, please use this in your description if you think this helps others 
>> visitors of the video.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Sai
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 7:50:53 AM UTC-6 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>>> Learned a LOT from the video. Thanks!
>>> 
 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:48:36 AM UTC+8 David Gifford wrote:
 Yes, I found this really helpful!
 
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 3:45:59 PM UTC-6 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
> This video was shockingly amazing. Wow...thank you Soren for making it 
> and walt for linking it! 
> 
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-6 ludwa6 wrote:
>> While i've learned a lot from some older videos and online docs, and of 
>> course via this discussion group, i've got to say: i resonate strongly 
>> with the frustration expressed by a fellow n00b somewhere (maybe in that 
>> long Roam-envy thread :-) about how fragmentary & scattered are the 
>> learning resources one needs to gain any considerable degree of 
>> TiddlyWiki-savvy. 
>> 
>> So it is that i must send a shout-out @SorenBjornstad for this 
>> tour-de-force video that he published just a few days ago: Experience 
>> TiddlyWiki Fluency: Creating a Reading List. In fact i haven't even 
>> finished watching (clocks in at a little over 1hr runtime), it is so 
>> chock-full of tutorial tips that i had to take a break and write them 
>> all down... And pay due homage to Soren while i'm at it.  Great service 
>> the community that you've done here, mate -and moreover: this is exactly 
>>  what the TW world needs to transcend the kinda "Cargo Cult" (not my 
>> words; 'twas JeremyR. himself who invoked the term in a recent video) 
>> such as it is, and break through to the kind of mainstream adoption that 
>> it rightly deserves.
>> 
>> PS:  Must also celebrate the book- Grok TiddlyWiki -which is my other 
>> most-valued learning resource of late;  in terms of the GUT (Grand 
>> Unified Theory) of documentation, it is something of a hybrid i would 
>> say... But the video falls squarely in the Tutorial quadrant of GUT, and 
>> is a stellar example of the artform, IMHO. 
>> 
>> /walt
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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

While looking for solutions to my other problem (where you replied!), I 
found another solution to this by using =[field] =[field] +[sum[]] and 
+[product[]]. I didn't know how = and + worked, and I don't know if this is 
simpler - it has way less stratification of vars - but it works nonetheless.

<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
=[get[level1]] =[get[level2]] +[sum[]] }}}/>

<$vars
hps={{{ [{!!class}get[hd]multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}
hp1={{{ =[get[level1]] =[{!!class}get[hd]] +[product[]] }}}
hp2={{{ =[get[level2]] =[{!!class2}get[hd]] +[product[]] }}}
hocon={{{ =[get[modcon]] =[get[level]] 
+[product[]] }}}>

<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" $value={{{ 
=[] =[] =[] =[] +[sum[]] }}}/>


On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 17:30:53 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> The key is that you cannot access the value of a variable, within the same 
> vars widget that sets it.
>
> So this:
>  <$vars a=2 b=3 c=a+b>
>
> Should be:
>
> <$vars a=2 b=3>
> <$vars c=a+b>
>

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

but this wouldn't let me have a linked list (the tiddler would be called 
English, not languange_english), not to mention that having 
language_english as plain text seems kinda ugly. Or am I missing something?
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 19:28:52 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> What if instead of:
> fieldname: language_english
> value: English
>
> you used:
>
> fieldname: language_english
> value: fluency_level, e.g: 1
>
> So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the person 
> speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of the field 
> name after the hyphen.
> The value of the field gives you the fluency.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)
>>
>> Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
>> people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
>> languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.
>>
>> my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages he 
>> speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could fit 
>> in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but let's 
>> not get ahead of ourself.
>>
>> my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people tiddlers:
>> fieldname: language_english
>> value: English
>>
>> fieldname: language_french
>> value: French
>>
>> and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
>> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
>> variable="language">
>> <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
>> <$link to=<>/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it 
>> won't let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the 
>> languages in which John is fluent.
>>
>> My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
>> process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a comparison 
>> with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:
>>
>> each page has a field codename, for example:
>> fieldname: codename   value: english
>>
>> compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
>> fieldname: english   value: 1
>>
>> and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].
>>
>> something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
>> compare:number:gt[0]]
>>
>> This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, etc.) 
>> and being able to define and filter even further.
>>
>> Thank you again for your time!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Embed External Widget Into Sidebar

2021-03-11 Thread Adina Gaskin

Thank you Mat. I will see if I can figure out something else then.

Note taken ;) 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 4:50:50 PM UTC-5 Mat wrote:

> Welcome Adina!
>
> I'm afraid it is not trivial to add javascript widgets to TW. It is 
> *possible* but you have to use the special js wrapping for it. This is 
> intentional, for security reasons.
>
> BTW, when we say "widgets" here, we refer to TiddlyWiki Widgets 
> so better make it very clear if you 
> refer to something else than these.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:46:51 PM UTC+1 adina@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Newbie here!
>> Im trying to add a wider that updates daily to my wiki.
>>
>> Ive already figured out how to add a tab to the sidebar but cant figure 
>> out how to get the actual widget to display
>>
>> Ive spent the last 2 hours going through the group and nothing I found 
>> works...
>>
>> Can someone please advise or direct me where to look or if theres already 
>> a plugin?
>>
>> The widget code is 
>>
>> https://astro-charts.com;> https://astro-charts.com/client/common/widget/js/widget-coa.min.js
>> ">
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Adina
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

What if instead of:
fieldname: language_english
value: English

you used:

fieldname: language_english
value: fluency_level, e.g: 1

So the presence of the language_english field tells you that the person 
speaks english, you get the name of the language from the part of the field 
name after the hyphen.
The value of the field gives you the fluency.



On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:00:26 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)
>
> Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
> people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
> languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.
>
> my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages he 
> speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could fit 
> in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but let's 
> not get ahead of ourself.
>
> my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people tiddlers:
> fieldname: language_english
> value: English
>
> fieldname: language_french
> value: French
>
> and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
> <$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
> variable="language">
> <$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
> <$link to=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it won't 
> let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the languages 
> in which John is fluent.
>
> My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
> process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a comparison 
> with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:
>
> each page has a field codename, for example:
> fieldname: codename   value: english
>
> compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
> fieldname: english   value: 1
>
> and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].
>
> something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
> compare:number:gt[0]]
>
> This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, etc.) 
> and being able to define and filter even further.
>
> Thank you again for your time!
>
>

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[tw5] A better way to display those fields/tiddlers?

My last request for help was immediatly solved, so let me try again! :)

Let's say I have two kind of tiddlers:
people: John, Mary, Carl, etc.
languages: English, Italian, Spanish, etc.

my goal is that when I see John's tiddler, I have a list of languages he 
speaks, each linked to its own tiddler. It would be perfect if I could fit 
in more information (like, filter them by fluency or whatever), but let's 
not get ahead of ourself.

my initial tought process was to have prefixed fields in people tiddlers:
fieldname: language_english
value: English

fieldname: language_french
value: French

and in a person's tiddler set up a list like:
<$list filter="[all[current]fields[]prefix[language_]sort[title]]" 
variable="language">
<$vars lang={{{ [get] }}}>
<$link to=<>/>



Now this works. HOWEVER! It's not flexible at all. And as I said, it won't 
let me differentiate further, so to filter, let's say, only the languages 
in which John is fluent.

My wish would be actually something different that I don't know how to 
process. That is: list the actual pages and filter them out by a comparison 
with the current tiddler's fields. Something like:

each page has a field codename, for example:
fieldname: codename   value: english

compare it to John's tiddler's fields:
fieldname: english   value: 1

and use this comparison as a filter for [tag[languages]].

something like: [tag[languages] butonlyif  
compare:number:gt[0]]

This way, I could set up other values in John's tiddler (0, 1, 2, etc.) and 
being able to define and filter even further.

Thank you again for your time!

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

Referencing to Tweakable colour palette


1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
2. Open the Advanced search

3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]

You see there are *132 *css selectors!

Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!



Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

The key is that you cannot access the value of a variable, within the same 
vars widget that sets it.

So this:
 <$vars a=2 b=3 c=a+b>

Should be:

<$vars a=2 b=3>
<$vars c=a+b>

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[tw5] Re: Curiouse discovery, not tiddlyverse but tidyverse

2021-03-11 Thread Stobot

Hi Tony - you actually hit on (Tidyverse) something I'm familiar with as my 
day job is in Data Analytics / Data Science and R is one of the key 
languages (along with Python). I suspect it'd be very difficult to 
integrate as it's not Javascript based like most of the other things that I 
see integrated, but if it *could* somehow be integrated that would be 
AMAZING. 

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:45:48 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I stumbled apon tidyverse.org which caught my eye. It is "R packages for 
> data science". I do not know how easy it would be to intergrate it with 
> tiddlywiki but many of its packages would be useful for displaying or 
> interogating data in tiddlers.
>
> Just sharing for those that may be intereted or have the skills to dig 
> deeper.
>
> Tones
>

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[tw5] Re: Has anybody noticed that TiddlyDesktop is unstable in MacOS Big Sur?

2021-03-11 Thread Ton Gerner

See 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/issues/224#issuecomment-792062502

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:25:34 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> There is a thread with similar comments. Jeremy has released 0.0.15 that 
> updates nw and *may* fix your problem.
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:51:34 AM UTC-8 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>> Has anybody noticed that TiddlyDesktop is unstable in MacOS Big Sur?
>> My setup:
>> MacOS Big Sur 11.2.1 -> 11.2.3 (new) on MacBook Pro (2020) 
>> TiddlyDesktop Version 0.0.14 
>> TiddlyWikis are version 5.1.23 
>> Stored on DropBox Pro 
>> Major use of PlugIn: TWaddle's SideEditor 3.0.12 (newly upgraded) 
>> I manually save because my backup folders would grow huge if I didn't
>>
>> My routine workflow is to open a few wikis and maximize each to full 
>> screen
>>
>> Then I "three finger swipe" between open desktops, with several wikis 
>> open at the same time. This has worked great for months to years.
>>
>> Now,
>>
>> All open wikis and TiddlyDesktop suddenly close without warning and no 
>> save of ongoing work. I THINK it happens when I hit a key combination (like 
>> shift-right key - to maybe select text) or when I do nothing for a few 
>> minutes. When it happens I lose the last hour or so of work and forget 
>> exactly what operation I was performing at the moment.
>>
>> This started about 5 days ago, right after my upgrade to MacOS 11.2.1...
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: create parser from template tiddler without tags

2021-03-11 Thread 'Balaram Usov' via TiddlyWiki

Thank you for advice. I posted my question there 


четверг, 11 марта 2021 г. в 00:29:38 UTC+3, Mat: 

> Hi. Your question probably fits better in the dev forum because it goes 
> beyond TW itself: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions
> Hope you get answers there!
> <:-)
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:52:15 PM UTC+1 de...@disroot.org wrote:
>
>> okay, using \rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline 
>> macrodef macrocallinline html helped me with links and other, but 
>> paragraphs are still there and mess my html structure
>>
>> среда, 10 марта 2021 г. в 20:52:50 UTC+3, Balaram Usov: 
>>
>>> setting tiddler type of $:/my/template to "text/html" leads to getting 
>>> iframe
>>>
>>> среда, 10 марта 2021 г. в 20:50:14 UTC+3, Balaram Usov: 
>>>
 I will appreciate any help! also it's parsing some of my link in 
 tiddler as:
 https://my.link/; 
 rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://my.link/ and 
 it's also breaks my template

 среда, 10 марта 2021 г. в 20:20:31 UTC+3, Balaram Usov: 

> in my widget code I'm trying to render my tiddler using template:
>
> ```
> var parser = this.parseTiddler("$:/my/template"),
>   widgetNode = $tw.wiki.makeWidget(parser,
> { variables: {currentTiddler: "$:/my/tiddler"}}),
>   container = $tw.fakeDocument.createElement("div");
>
> widgetNode.render(container,null);
> ```
> It works. However, in a result I get a lot of  tags from template 
> code 
>
> Using {parseAsInline: true} as an argument to parseTiddler changes 
> nothing
>
>

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[tw5] Re: "Remote Transclusion"

2021-03-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki



>
> 2: Technically you are stealing someone elses bandwidth, if you use their 
> servers to display their eg: images 
>
>
But if you're using a TW that only you see (i.e. private), it's the exact 
same bandwidth as if you had visited the page.

A publicly available TW, of course, is different. 

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[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Further to my last post, I don't guarantee the palettes generated here are 
fit for purpose! :D

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:42:20 AM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:

> Thanks TT,
>
> The only thing I find confusing is HOW to save a new palette set?
>> Obviously end-users will be looking to save to new names & activate new 
>> palettes they make. 
>> It is just not so clear how to do that I think??
>>
>
> That's because I didn't build that yet. :D However, if you are using the 
> Vanilla theme and want to keep a palette, putting a copy of the  
> $:/plugins/can/moods/palettes/Omelette 
> tiddler into your TW should work. The plugin provides this tiddler, and 
> "overwrites" it as you change things.
>
>>
>> Purely FYI, Telmiger some time ago attempted to make a "Color Action 
>> " 
>> thing that tries to deal with "colour harmony" issues that Jermolene refers 
>> to.  
>> It is somewhat obscure how it works but I mention it because you might be 
>> able to benefit from seeing at least the concept behind it.
>>
>> This is full of good stuff, thanks for the heads-up. And I see David has 
> it in the TW Toolmap, so it's discoverable (I hadn't looked until you 
> mentioned it).
>
> Best wishes,
> Chris
>

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[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Thanks TT,

The only thing I find confusing is HOW to save a new palette set?
> Obviously end-users will be looking to save to new names & activate new 
> palettes they make. 
> It is just not so clear how to do that I think??
>

That's because I didn't build that yet. :D However, if you are using the 
Vanilla theme and want to keep a palette, putting a copy of the  
$:/plugins/can/moods/palettes/Omelette 
tiddler into your TW should work. The plugin provides this tiddler, and 
"overwrites" it as you change things.

>
> Purely FYI, Telmiger some time ago attempted to make a "Color Action 
> " 
> thing that tries to deal with "colour harmony" issues that Jermolene refers 
> to.  
> It is somewhat obscure how it works but I mention it because you might be 
> able to benefit from seeing at least the concept behind it.
>
> This is full of good stuff, thanks for the heads-up. And I see David has 
it in the TW Toolmap, so it's discoverable (I hadn't looked until you 
mentioned it).

Best wishes,
Chris

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Re: [tw5] Re: Searchable wiki on Google Drive

Mat,
 I actually posted this for you! I think your TiddlyGo can eventually have
such features!
 Now you can read from Sheet using SheetIN and this is the beginning of a
wonderful journey!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 5:44 PM Mat  wrote:

> Mohammad, please elaborate what you envision.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:15:09 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> I stumbled upon https://www.producthunt.com/posts/kbee?bc=1#  and found
>> it interesting! It should be easy for Tiddlywiki to create such tool
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread moros...@gmail.com

Hi Mat, 

1) OK. I'll include that in the next version.
2) Sounds good! I'll add this feature in the next version.
3) This sounds good also, but I'll have to investigate if there is a 
technical solution for this.
4) The "Max. icons/page:" setting doesn't help you? You can select a lower 
limit for the number of icons displayed per page.

Thanks for the feedback!

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:11:19 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> Morosanaue - since you're a perfectionist I will mention a few bits that 
> would improve it even further, IMO:
>
> 1) A link on the page to the gh page for posting issues and ideas etc 
> instead of here. (Unless you really prefer here ;-)
> 2) Often I only want a single icon. It is more convenient to directly drag 
> this over into my tiddler rather than having to export it and fiddle with 
> files. It is already possible to directly drag'n drop from the *big* list 
> but it would be good if one could directly drag from the *selected *list 
> because I first put "potential" icons there and only thereafter decide 
> which one I want.
> 3) It would also be neat if one could directly drag all the selected icons 
> without export. For example they could all be added so they show in a 
> draggable tag pill. (Maybe the "Export selected" button could even *be* a 
> tag pill styled to look like it does now so that clicking it (clickdown and 
> up) triggers export but clicking down and drag also works. I have no idea 
> if this is possible.)
> 4) When scanning for icons it is somewhat annoying to have to scroll the 
> page. Even if there is a Nextpage button both at top and bottom, it would 
> be even smoother if one can simply *stay *with the mouse on Next page and 
> click it repeatedly. I.e this means the big list would not display as many 
> icons at a time per page. 
>
> Thank you for THE icon haven in TiddlyVerse.
>
> <:-)
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:42:07 AM UTC+1 moros...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>>
>> *v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500 
>> icons*. 
>>
>> *Features*: 
>>
>>-  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler 
>>Icons"*.
>>
>>
>> For more info, please checkout the "version history". 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:17:00 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I understand. I do not know enough however to know if there is a 
>>> difference in using tags or alias field. How that would impact the 
>>> performance. I think someone did a test of that long time ago. 
>>> unfortunately I was not able to find the result by searching.
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.59.52 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>>>
 @Birthe 

 "Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed 
 of use?"

 I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the 
 icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app 
 becomes somewhat irrelevant. 

 It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages 
 searching for your desired icons.

 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
> beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of 
> it 
> all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 
>
> Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed 
> of use?
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev 
> moros...@gmail.com:
>
>> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
>> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 
>>
>>
>>- to add them as tags or 
>>- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
>>- or maybe both?
>>
>>
>> What do you think? 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. 
>>> After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and 
>>> knowledge 
>>> (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find 
>>> my 
>>> work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its 
>>> creators 
>>> and also to our community. 
>>>
>>> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>>>
>>> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of 
>>> the libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to 
>>> add 
>>> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. 
>>> house, 
>>> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
>>> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>>>

Re: [tw5] [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Hi Chris,
 Many thanks for your clarifications.
Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 5:35 PM clutterstack  wrote:

> Apologies to everyone for not replying to these all in one message.
>
>  On each palette button is it possible to have what it is or can we have a
>> tooltip to show its name?
>>  like [background] [foreground]
>>
>> I mean the six buttons you click to select the base colors!
>>
>> A finished version of this would have tooltips, definitely. At the moment
> the base colours are called things like "mood1" etc., and the purposes are
> decided by clicking on base colours. That gives you the freedom to choose
> colours you like, and then put them into different roles.
>
> Some of the colour choices can be pure preference, but once made, they
> constrain some of the others. For example, if you want to swap a light
> background for a dark one, you can just click on a dark colour from your
> set that you've picked. But then you may also have to change the foreground
> so you can see it. So there's some slop that bothers me in the current
> version. A fancy plugin might do something like that for you and reduce the
> clutter. There are so many cool things one could do here!
>
> Best wishes,
> Chris
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[tw5] Re: [Requesting feedback] Customizer plugin

2021-03-11 Thread David Gifford

Moved this project forward a bit. It should be much easier to see what I am 
going for, re: add-ons. 
https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:12:21 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I am almost done with the Customizer plugin. Requesting any feedback 
> before I write the instructions, package the plugins, and package the 
> addons.
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html
>
> Thanks to Mohammad for help with converting it to a single button with two 
> tabs.
>
> Note that the backlinks options and sidebar options I have listed will be 
> independent of the plugin, available as add-ons.
>
> There is now the ability to reorder sidebar segments right in the sidebar 
> tab of the Customizer button. 
>
> I also created a prototype of a Book tools sidebar (glossary, 
> bibliography, table of contents). 
>
> Anyone can create custom view template elements and sidebar segments by 
> tagging a tiddler $:/giffmex/viewtemplate or $:/giffmex/sidebarsegments, so 
> if you don't like my baclkink stuff and sidebar stuff, you can make your 
> own and even share them on your own sites to use with this plugin. I am 
> trying to make this as flexible and usable as possible.
>
> Blessings, Dave
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a "Getting Started Guide" for for creating a plugin?

2021-03-11 Thread Simon Baird

Thanks everyone for the thoughtful and detailed responses.

I'll do some reading and see if I can make sense of it all. (Perhaps I'll
contribute some docs in future, maybe "Hacking TiddlyWiki - a beginners
guide".

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:45 PM Simon Baird  wrote:

> https://tiddlywiki.com/#PluginMechanism talks about plugins and how they
> work etc, but how do I make one?
>
> Suppose I wanted to run alert("Hello") when TiddlyWiki starts up, or
> create a macro that creates a button that runs alert("Hello World").
>
> Where do I begin?
>
>
> -Simon
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[tw5] Re: Searchable wiki on Google Drive

2021-03-11 Thread Mat

Mohammad, please elaborate what you envision. 

<:-)

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:15:09 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> I stumbled upon https://www.producthunt.com/posts/kbee?bc=1#  and found 
> it interesting! It should be easy for Tiddlywiki to create such tool
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread Mat

Morosanaue - since you're a perfectionist I will mention a few bits that 
would improve it even further, IMO:

1) A link on the page to the gh page for posting issues and ideas etc 
instead of here. (Unless you really prefer here ;-)
2) Often I only want a single icon. It is more convenient to directly drag 
this over into my tiddler rather than having to export it and fiddle with 
files. It is already possible to directly drag'n drop from the *big* list 
but it would be good if one could directly drag from the *selected *list 
because I first put "potential" icons there and only thereafter decide 
which one I want.
3) It would also be neat if one could directly drag all the selected icons 
without export. For example they could all be added so they show in a 
draggable tag pill. (Maybe the "Export selected" button could even *be* a 
tag pill styled to look like it does now so that clicking it (clickdown and 
up) triggers export but clicking down and drag also works. I have no idea 
if this is possible.)
4) When scanning for icons it is somewhat annoying to have to scroll the 
page. Even if there is a Nextpage button both at top and bottom, it would 
be even smoother if one can simply *stay *with the mouse on Next page and 
click it repeatedly. I.e this means the big list would not display as many 
icons at a time per page. 

Thank you for THE icon haven in TiddlyVerse.

<:-)
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:42:07 AM UTC+1 moros...@gmail.com wrote:

> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>
> *v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500 
> icons*. 
>
> *Features*: 
>
>-  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler 
>Icons"*.
>
>
> For more info, please checkout the "version history". 
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:17:00 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I understand. I do not know enough however to know if there is a 
>> difference in using tags or alias field. How that would impact the 
>> performance. I think someone did a test of that long time ago. 
>> unfortunately I was not able to find the result by searching.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.59.52 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> @Birthe 
>>>
>>> "Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed 
>>> of use?"
>>>
>>> I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the 
>>> icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app 
>>> becomes somewhat irrelevant. 
>>>
>>> It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages 
>>> searching for your desired icons.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
 beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it 
 all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 

 Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed 
 of use?

 Birthe

 søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com
 :

> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 
>
>
>- to add them as tags or 
>- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
>- or maybe both?
>
>
> What do you think? 
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. 
>> After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge 
>> (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find 
>> my 
>> work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its 
>> creators 
>> and also to our community. 
>>
>> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>>
>> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of 
>> the libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
>> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
>> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
>> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>>>
>>> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was 
>>> experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you 
>>> have 
>>> imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used 
>>> Node 
>>> and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, 
>>> extract 
>>> the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler 
>>> data.

[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

This is an excellent plugin and I will use it a lot, thank you!

However, I don't understand how can I store a result calculated with this 
plugin inside a field.

On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 13:39:00 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> Hi,
> Have a closer look at: https://chronicles.wiki/TiddlyWikiFormula/
> -m
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

THIS. I don't know how to thank you. I actually tried something similar, 
but I probably try to calculate vars all in one line (like: <$vars a=2 b=3 
c=a+b>) it obviously didn't work and I thought it just couldn't work with 
vars. Thanks again!

On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 14:09:58 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Something like this:
>
> <$vars lev1={{!!levello1}} lev2={{!!levello2}} hd1={{{ 
> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}} hd2={{{ [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}
> conmod={{{ [get[modcon]] }}}>
>
> <$vars hps={{{ [multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}} hp1={{{ 
> [multiply] }}} hp2={{{ [multiply] }}} lev={{{ 
> [add] }}}>
>
> <$vars hpcon={{{ [multiply] }}}>
>
> <$vars hitpoints={{{ [addaddadd] }}}>
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Only use action-setfield with the final values you wish to save.
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:24:57 PM UTC+1 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> In the same block of action strings, you cannot set tiddler/field values 
>> and retrieve the updated values. Try saving the interim values as variables 
>> instead of in temp tiddlers.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:03:35 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all. I'm in need of a macro (or something else?) that calculates a 
>>> bunch of fields together in an expression. I'm trying to do with plugins 
>>> like calc and playing around with variables and action widgets but nothing 
>>> seems to work. In my last attempt I made a huge button full of actions that 
>>> stored fields in a temp tiddler, with vars that recovered those fields to 
>>> use in other action setfields... It was monstrous and still it didn't work.
>>>
>>> I believe I need a macro - actually, probably a javascript one. But I 
>>> don't know where to start; I don't know much about java and making macros 
>>> in general. Can anyone point me to the best path I should follow, or help 
>>> in any way?
>>>
>>> The macro should:
>>>
>>> from tiddler-1:
>>> get field-a-1, field-a-2, field-b-1, field-b-2, field-n
>>>
>>> from both tiddler-a and tiddler-b (which are stored as values in 
>>> field-a-1 and field-b-1):
>>> get field-x, so to get field-x-a and field-x-b to keep around for calcs.
>>>
>>> these are all fields I manually set up.
>>>
>>> then:
>>>
>>> multiply field-x-a and field-a-2, and keep the result around (let's say 
>>> var-a)
>>> multiply field-x-b and field-b-2, the same (var-b)
>>>
>>> add field-a-2 and field-b-2, to store as field-y in tiddler-1
>>>
>>> multiply field-n and field-z, and get var-n
>>>
>>> add together var-a, var-b and var-n, and store the result as field-z in 
>>> tiddler-z
>>>
>>>
>>> this is my last attempt (embed in a button). There's one more small 
>>> calc, but it is just a sum that involves one field, so it's non relevant at 
>>> the moment.
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev1" 
>>> $value={{!!levello1}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev2" 
>>> $value={{!!levello2}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd1" $value={{{ 
>>> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd2" $value={{{ 
>>> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="conmod" $value={{{ 
>>> [get[modcon]] }}}/>
>>>
>>> <$vars lev1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev1]] }}} lev2={{{ 
>>> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev2]] }}} hd1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd1]] }}} 
>>> hd2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd2]] }}}
>>> conmod={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[conmod]] }}}>
>>>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hps" $value={{{ 
>>> [multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp1" $value={{{ 
>>> [multiply] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp2" $value={{{ 
>>> [multiply] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev" $value={{{ 
>>> [add] }}}/>
>>>
>>> <$vars hps={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hps]] }}} hp1={{{ 
>>> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp1]] }}} hp2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp2]] }}} 
>>> lev={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev]] }}}>
>>>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hpcon" $value={{{ 
>>> [multiply] }}}/>
>>>
>>> <$vars hpcon={{{ [title[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hpcon]] }}}>
>>>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
>>> $value={{{ [addaddadd] }}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
>>> [] }}}/>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> if you played you know what, you know what this is about :P
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Apologies to everyone for not replying to these all in one message.

 On each palette button is it possible to have what it is or can we have a 
> tooltip to show its name?
>  like [background] [foreground]
>
> I mean the six buttons you click to select the base colors!
>
> A finished version of this would have tooltips, definitely. At the moment 
the base colours are called things like "mood1" etc., and the purposes are 
decided by clicking on base colours. That gives you the freedom to choose 
colours you like, and then put them into different roles.

Some of the colour choices can be pure preference, but once made, they 
constrain some of the others. For example, if you want to swap a light 
background for a dark one, you can just click on a dark colour from your 
set that you've picked. But then you may also have to change the foreground 
so you can see it. So there's some slop that bothers me in the current 
version. A fancy plugin might do something like that for you and reduce the 
clutter. There are so many cool things one could do here!

Best wishes,
Chris

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette



>  Now you have 6 base colors am I right?
>

At the moment, yes. I was thinking that any given theme might have more or 
fewer. One could imagine (and I think Jeremy was alluding to this) picking 
two or three main colours and having an easy way to make lighter or darker, 
or more- or less-saturated, variations of those colours to keep the theme 
harmonious.

 Is it to have three or four base colors and everything adjusted based on 
> that? 
>

Yes. I've collected many of the indices in the Vanilla palette into groups 
that I thought could use the same colour. It's not a perfect grouping, and 
it also might depend on preferences.

 I think the current official TW color palette is crowded with colors and 
> you may have to invent your own bases
>
> That's what the groups do. One could write a theme from scratch and have 
perhaps a much shorter palette, but that itself is a big endeavour.

 By the way this Mood plugin can help to create amazing TW color palettes.
>  
>
I hope so!
 

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:14:38 PM UTC+1 PMario wrote:

title: Jack 
> [? stepson[Joe]], [? daughter[Jill]] and [? wife[Jane]] 
>

Some technical background. At the moment TW builds the "backlink" 
information at "parsing time", when the parse-tree is created. Parsing the 
tiddler content is a very "heavy weight" function. .. It need quite some 
CPU cycles. ... That's why this info is cached and only recreated if a 
tiddler changes. 

If someone uses the eg: backlinks[] 
 operator, the TW core has to 
touch every tiddler and parse it. Then it internally searches the 
parse-tree for a pattern like: 

"type": "link",
"attributes": {
  "to": {
  "type": "string", 
  "value": "Joe" 
  } 
}, 

and it stores some info in the indexer. ... Since we have to "run" all this 
code already, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to add additional info 
to the link structure. eg:

"type": "link",
"attributes": {
  "to": {
  "type": "string", 
  "value": "Joe" 
  },
  "relation": {
  "type": "string", 
  "value": "stepson" 
  } 
}, 

In a second step, this info can be "indexed" and we can create filter 
operators for it. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

Hi Mohammad, 

Thanks for your comments!

Minor comment: Is it possible to have one or two examples one can click and 
> see! I mean for example a dark and a light sample!
> Like the one is in use when you open 
> https://clutterstack.github.io/TW5-moods/
>

Yes, I can do that.

Why is the $:/AdvancedSearch the default tiddler in current release?
>
> Thanks, I didn't realise I'd overwritten my demo with one I'd been playing 
with.

Best,
Chris

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:47:30 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> What does "relationship" bring to the table? How would it be useful? Are 
> there some examples?

At the moment we use tags and fields to define connections between 
tiddlers. 

It would also be possible to define some of this info within a link. eg: If 
you have [[Jack]], [[Joe]], [[Jill]] and [[Jane]] you may know they are 
persons because we have names here. But you don't know more ... 

Let's say the tiddler named: Jack contains 

title: Jack

[? stepson[Joe]], [? daughter[Jill]] and [? wife[Jane]] 

Now we know a lot more, without the need to visit any of the other 
tiddlers. ... It's a patchwork family. 

It feels like an unnecessary complexity, but maybe I'm missing something 
> really neat.
>

With the right code the info above can be extracted, to eg create a family 
tree. .. The advantage is, that no fields or tags are used. 

The tree can grow organically while the content is entered. eg: Joe may 
link to [? father[Stephen]] ... and so on. .. 

That's only 1 example. The initial example in the OP was [? mention[mr A]]  
and [? participant[mr J]] [? participant[mr K]] 

The problem is: TW core doesn't support such information at the moment. ... 
BUT it's interesting to think about it. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

Something like this:

<$vars lev1={{!!levello1}} lev2={{!!levello2}} hd1={{{ 
[title{!!class}get[hd]] }}} hd2={{{ [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}
conmod={{{ [get[modcon]] }}}>

<$vars hps={{{ [multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}} hp1={{{ 
[multiply] }}} hp2={{{ [multiply] }}} lev={{{ 
[add] }}}>

<$vars hpcon={{{ [multiply] }}}>

<$vars hitpoints={{{ [addaddadd] }}}>








Only use action-setfield with the final values you wish to save.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:24:57 PM UTC+1 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> In the same block of action strings, you cannot set tiddler/field values 
> and retrieve the updated values. Try saving the interim values as variables 
> instead of in temp tiddlers.
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:03:35 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all. I'm in need of a macro (or something else?) that calculates a 
>> bunch of fields together in an expression. I'm trying to do with plugins 
>> like calc and playing around with variables and action widgets but nothing 
>> seems to work. In my last attempt I made a huge button full of actions that 
>> stored fields in a temp tiddler, with vars that recovered those fields to 
>> use in other action setfields... It was monstrous and still it didn't work.
>>
>> I believe I need a macro - actually, probably a javascript one. But I 
>> don't know where to start; I don't know much about java and making macros 
>> in general. Can anyone point me to the best path I should follow, or help 
>> in any way?
>>
>> The macro should:
>>
>> from tiddler-1:
>> get field-a-1, field-a-2, field-b-1, field-b-2, field-n
>>
>> from both tiddler-a and tiddler-b (which are stored as values in 
>> field-a-1 and field-b-1):
>> get field-x, so to get field-x-a and field-x-b to keep around for calcs.
>>
>> these are all fields I manually set up.
>>
>> then:
>>
>> multiply field-x-a and field-a-2, and keep the result around (let's say 
>> var-a)
>> multiply field-x-b and field-b-2, the same (var-b)
>>
>> add field-a-2 and field-b-2, to store as field-y in tiddler-1
>>
>> multiply field-n and field-z, and get var-n
>>
>> add together var-a, var-b and var-n, and store the result as field-z in 
>> tiddler-z
>>
>>
>> this is my last attempt (embed in a button). There's one more small calc, 
>> but it is just a sum that involves one field, so it's non relevant at the 
>> moment.
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev1" 
>> $value={{!!levello1}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev2" 
>> $value={{!!levello2}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd1" $value={{{ 
>> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd2" $value={{{ 
>> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="conmod" $value={{{ 
>> [get[modcon]] }}}/>
>>
>> <$vars lev1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev1]] }}} lev2={{{ 
>> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev2]] }}} hd1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd1]] }}} 
>> hd2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd2]] }}}
>> conmod={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[conmod]] }}}>
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hps" $value={{{ 
>> [multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp1" $value={{{ 
>> [multiply] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp2" $value={{{ 
>> [multiply] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev" $value={{{ 
>> [add] }}}/>
>>
>> <$vars hps={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hps]] }}} hp1={{{ 
>> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp1]] }}} hp2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp2]] }}} 
>> lev={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev]] }}}>
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hpcon" $value={{{ 
>> [multiply] }}}/>
>>
>> <$vars hpcon={{{ [title[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hpcon]] }}}>
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
>> $value={{{ [addaddadd] }}}/>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
>> [] }}}/>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> if you played you know what, you know what this is about :P
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Some more thoughts on linking in TW (aliases, display text, and relationship types: Oh My!)

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:47:30 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> What does "relationship" bring to the table? How would it be useful? Are 
> there some examples?


At the moment we use tags and fields to define connections between 
tiddlers. 

It would also be possible to define some of this info within a link. eg: If 
you have [[Jack]], [[Joe]], [[Jill]] and [[Jane]] you may know they are 
persons because we have names here. 

Let's say the tiddler named: Jack contains 

title: Jack

[? stepson[Joe]], [? daughter[Jill]] and [? wife[Jane]] 

Now 

 

> It feels like an unnecessary complexity, but maybe I'm missing something 
> really neat.
>


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[tw5] Re: "Remote Transclusion"

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:41:47 AM UTC+1 Samir S. wrote:

I'm only using remote transclusion to remove the link clic step. For me 
> it's like including a video or image.
>

If you include an image at your site, but the image is served form someone 
elses domain / server, they have to pay the bill. .. That's a problem!

> The content is not altered and of course copyrights are preserved. 
>

It doesn't matter, if you alter the content. Copyright doesn't matter, it's 
the license that matters. You have to make sure, that the author provided 
the content with a license, that allows you to use it exactly that way. ... 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

Hi,
Have a closer look at: https://chronicles.wiki/TiddlyWikiFormula/
-m

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Re: [tw5] Saving destinations

Kate,

I don't think there's a way to change the open/save path of an existing 
file in TiddlyDesktop, but after moving the file on your hard drive, if you 
click "remove", then "add wiki file" in TiddlyDesktop, you can reselect the 
file in its new location. This won't affect your data at all since all the 
content is stored in the wiki file, not in TiddlyDesktop.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 10:54:54 PM UTC-6 Kate B wrote:

> Javier,
> Thanks so much for your response and suggestions. Actually, I do use 
> dropbox for lots of files I need to have 'here and there' What I'm not sure 
> about is how to go about having my tiddly files back up onto DB? Is that 
> terribly lame? I suppose it may be: I just can't figure it out. 
>
> Would you be kind enough to give me some bright green newb pointers? When 
> I've tried to move my WIKI folder off the DT - you will not be surprised to 
> know that trying to open them in TWDT shows the files are AWOL. Moving the 
> folder back to the DT, files are open-able again.
>
> Syncthing - LOL! - love the idea, but 'harder to set up' ... gives me 
> pause (I went and had a quick gander at the link ) . Don't love DB and 
> when feeling brave and/or reckless may give Syncthing a go? Presently it 
> seems a bit of a headscratcher, tho, to be honest. Oooh, just found the 
> second link you posted and it looks like I can get my head around that. 
> Superb! Much appreciated... but I think perhaps the question may remain. 
> How to direct my saving to a particular destination?
>
> Cheers,
> Kate
>
> On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 12:36:53 UTC+9 Javier Rojas wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 05:18:48PM -0800, Kate B wrote: 
>> > MBP, 2017, OS Catalina, Chrome & FF, TiddlyDT 
>> > 
>> > TiddlyCats - my backups are stored in a folder I created when I first 
>> > started to use your lovely programme that sits on my DT. I want to move 
>> > this folder - ideally into the cloud, or at least off the DT. Could 
>> anyone 
>> > please tell me how to do this? (I'm afraid I'm just learning your lingo 
>> and 
>> > though I've tried to read all about saving I find, I confess, my eyes 
>> > glazing over ...) 
>>
>> I'll assume your goal here is "have my *backups* somewhere else should my 
>> computer get stolen/go kaput". That said... 
>>
>> Have you considered using dropbox for this? Their basic plan offers you 
>> 2GB, for free (at least according to them): 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/basic ; you could just start using your dropbox 
>> folder as the backup destination. 
>>
>> Or if, besides your MBP, you own/can install programs in a second 
>> computer, 
>> you could try Syncthing, which is a free alternative to dropbox, and 
>> would let you achieve the same thing you'd do with dropbox (get your 
>> backups somewhere else, outside your computer), but which is, 
>> admittedly, harder to setup. If you feel adventurous, check 
>> https://docs.syncthing.net/intro/getting-started.html#getting-started 
>>
>> I hope I helped a bit with your issue. 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>>
>> -- 
>> Javier 
>>
>> Ps: wow, TiddlyCats! Now we only need someone to draw a really cheesy 
>> mix of a tiddler and a ThunderCat! 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make "complex" macro calculations?

In the same block of action strings, you cannot set tiddler/field values 
and retrieve the updated values. Try saving the interim values as variables 
instead of in temp tiddlers.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:03:35 PM UTC+1 dop...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all. I'm in need of a macro (or something else?) that calculates a 
> bunch of fields together in an expression. I'm trying to do with plugins 
> like calc and playing around with variables and action widgets but nothing 
> seems to work. In my last attempt I made a huge button full of actions that 
> stored fields in a temp tiddler, with vars that recovered those fields to 
> use in other action setfields... It was monstrous and still it didn't work.
>
> I believe I need a macro - actually, probably a javascript one. But I 
> don't know where to start; I don't know much about java and making macros 
> in general. Can anyone point me to the best path I should follow, or help 
> in any way?
>
> The macro should:
>
> from tiddler-1:
> get field-a-1, field-a-2, field-b-1, field-b-2, field-n
>
> from both tiddler-a and tiddler-b (which are stored as values in field-a-1 
> and field-b-1):
> get field-x, so to get field-x-a and field-x-b to keep around for calcs.
>
> these are all fields I manually set up.
>
> then:
>
> multiply field-x-a and field-a-2, and keep the result around (let's say 
> var-a)
> multiply field-x-b and field-b-2, the same (var-b)
>
> add field-a-2 and field-b-2, to store as field-y in tiddler-1
>
> multiply field-n and field-z, and get var-n
>
> add together var-a, var-b and var-n, and store the result as field-z in 
> tiddler-z
>
>
> this is my last attempt (embed in a button). There's one more small calc, 
> but it is just a sum that involves one field, so it's non relevant at the 
> moment.
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev1" 
> $value={{!!levello1}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev2" 
> $value={{!!levello2}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd1" $value={{{ 
> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd2" $value={{{ 
> [title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="conmod" $value={{{ 
> [get[modcon]] }}}/>
>
> <$vars lev1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev1]] }}} lev2={{{ 
> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev2]] }}} hd1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd1]] }}} 
> hd2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd2]] }}}
> conmod={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[conmod]] }}}>
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hps" $value={{{ 
> [multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp1" $value={{{ 
> [multiply] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp2" $value={{{ 
> [multiply] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev" $value={{{ 
> [add] }}}/>
>
> <$vars hps={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hps]] }}} hp1={{{ 
> [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp1]] }}} hp2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp2]] }}} 
> lev={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev]] }}}>
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hpcon" $value={{{ 
> [multiply] }}}/>
>
> <$vars hpcon={{{ [title[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hpcon]] }}}>
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" 
> $value={{{ [addaddadd] }}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
> [] }}}/>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> if you played you know what, you know what this is about :P
>

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[tw5] How to make "complex" macro calculations?

Hi all. I'm in need of a macro (or something else?) that calculates a bunch 
of fields together in an expression. I'm trying to do with plugins like 
calc and playing around with variables and action widgets but nothing seems 
to work. In my last attempt I made a huge button full of actions that 
stored fields in a temp tiddler, with vars that recovered those fields to 
use in other action setfields... It was monstrous and still it didn't work.

I believe I need a macro - actually, probably a javascript one. But I don't 
know where to start; I don't know much about java and making macros in 
general. Can anyone point me to the best path I should follow, or help in 
any way?

The macro should:

from tiddler-1:
get field-a-1, field-a-2, field-b-1, field-b-2, field-n

from both tiddler-a and tiddler-b (which are stored as values in field-a-1 
and field-b-1):
get field-x, so to get field-x-a and field-x-b to keep around for calcs.

these are all fields I manually set up.

then:

multiply field-x-a and field-a-2, and keep the result around (let's say 
var-a)
multiply field-x-b and field-b-2, the same (var-b)

add field-a-2 and field-b-2, to store as field-y in tiddler-1

multiply field-n and field-z, and get var-n

add together var-a, var-b and var-n, and store the result as field-z in 
tiddler-z


this is my last attempt (embed in a button). There's one more small calc, 
but it is just a sum that involves one field, so it's non relevant at the 
moment.
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev1" 
$value={{!!levello1}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev2" 
$value={{!!levello2}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd1" $value={{{ 
[title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hd2" $value={{{ 
[title{!!class}get[hd]] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="conmod" $value={{{ 
[get[modcon]] }}}/>

<$vars lev1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev1]] }}} lev2={{{ 
[[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev2]] }}} hd1={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd1]] }}} 
hd2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hd2]] }}}
conmod={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[conmod]] }}}>

<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hps" $value={{{ 
[multiply[2]subtract[2]] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp1" $value={{{ 
[multiply] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hp2" $value={{{ 
[multiply] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="lev" $value={{{ 
[add] }}}/>

<$vars hps={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hps]] }}} hp1={{{ 
[[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp1]] }}} hp2={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hp2]] }}} 
lev={{{ [[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[lev]] }}}>

<$action-setfield $tiddler=":$/temp/HPCalc" $field="hpcon" $value={{{ 
[multiply] }}}/>

<$vars hpcon={{{ [title[$:/temp/HPCalc]get[hpcon]] }}}>

<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="hitpoints" $value={{{ 
[addaddadd] }}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="level" $value={{{ 
[] }}}/>





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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] TOC generic - shows toc,backlinks,list and listed up front

2021-03-11 Thread arun babu

Thanks HCHaase for the update. Will get back to you after I try it out in
my wiki.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 2:15 PM HC Haase  wrote:

> I finally got something done :)
>
> @ hardco...@gmail.com
> finally freelinks
>
> @ arunn...@gmail.com
> Thanks for your patiened reminders..
>
> >Can you add a configuration panel like in the reference plug-in of
> TiddlyResearch  to turn on
> and off backlinks, freelinks, tags, lists as needed by the user
>
> I have added this for you... Tough I personally would recommend not to use
> it, as the lists will not appear if there is no connections in them.
> Instead I would leave them folded if I dont use them as much.
>
> any way enjoy.. I will continue the development.
>
>
> *Announcement*: TOC Generic
> *Date*: 2021/03/11
> *Release*: 2.2.0
>
> Downlaod/demo:
> https://hchaase.github.io/HC-Plugins/#TOC-Generic%20Introduction
> 
>
> v. 2.2.0
>
>- [New] added freelinks (copied form TWCrossLinks
>)
>for full match (partial match coming soon)
>- [New] added options to remove any of the lists (in settings)
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[tw5] Re: "Remote Transclusion"

2021-03-11 Thread Samir S.

Mario,

The transclusion target is a video iframe.
I'd like to do the same with a remote webpage and could not find such an 
example.

Thank you.

On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 19:47:25 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:53:25 PM UTC+1 Samir S. wrote:
>
>> I would like to know if the ”remote transclusion” function is implemented 
>> ?
>>
>
> See: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Getting%20Started%20Video - If you open the 
> tiddler, you'll see, how it's done.
>  
>
>> I’m trying  to (dynamically) embed the content of web pages in a tiddler 
>> like what's possible with an image or video (using iframe).
>>
>
> Technically it's possible. ... BUT ethically it may be problematic.
>
> There are 2 terms, which you should have a closer look at: 
>
> Hotlinking: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotlinking and
> Content Scraping: 
> https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/bots/what-is-content-scraping/
>  
>
>> I’ve come across many ”DIY” ways to clip web content and generate tiddler 
>> from them but you may have an undocumented way to do this without using a 
>> web browser extension etc … :-)
>>
>
> There are 2 fundamental problems. ...
>
> 1: If you display the whole content within the TW UI it looks like "your" 
> content. Using content in that way will create all sorts of copyright and 
> licensing problems.
>
> 2: Technically you are stealing someone elses bandwidth, if you use their 
> servers to display their eg: images 
>
> So ... Be careful!
>
> have fun!
> Mario
>

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[tw5] Re: "Remote Transclusion"

2021-03-11 Thread Samir S.

Hi Mario,

Thank you very much for this thorough explanation.
I'm only using remote transclusion to remove the link clic step. For me 
it's like including a video or image. The content is not altered and of 
course copyrights are preserved. 

Sincerely.

Samir
On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 19:47:25 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:53:25 PM UTC+1 Samir S. wrote:
>
>> I would like to know if the ”remote transclusion” function is implemented 
>> ?
>>
>
> See: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Getting%20Started%20Video - If you open the 
> tiddler, you'll see, how it's done.
>  
>
>> I’m trying  to (dynamically) embed the content of web pages in a tiddler 
>> like what's possible with an image or video (using iframe).
>>
>
> Technically it's possible. ... BUT ethically it may be problematic.
>
> There are 2 terms, which you should have a closer look at: 
>
> Hotlinking: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotlinking and
> Content Scraping: 
> https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/bots/what-is-content-scraping/
>  
>
>> I’ve come across many ”DIY” ways to clip web content and generate tiddler 
>> from them but you may have an undocumented way to do this without using a 
>> web browser extension etc … :-)
>>
>
> There are 2 fundamental problems. ...
>
> 1: If you display the whole content within the TW UI it looks like "your" 
> content. Using content in that way will create all sorts of copyright and 
> licensing problems.
>
> 2: Technically you are stealing someone elses bandwidth, if you use their 
> servers to display their eg: images 
>
> So ... Be careful!
>
> have fun!
> Mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread moros...@gmail.com

@Ray and @TT thanks a lot!
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:16:08 AM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao moros...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>>
>> *v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500 
>> icons*. 
>>
>> *Features*: 
>>
>>-  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler 
>>Icons"*.
>>
>>
> Super-good! IF a user can't find a needed icon in that brilliant 
> collection then it probably does not exist!
>
> ALSO, I want to comment, that "TW Icons" is likely the best example I have 
> ever seen of a TW app at serious SCALE that works really well for purpose.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a "Getting Started Guide" for for creating a plugin?

Hi Simon,

Things are a bit different in TW5 when it comes to plugins and can take a 
bit to wrap one's head around. Plugins are just a collection or packaging 
of tiddlers.

The general idea in TW5 that I use is, try to do as much as you can with 
wikitext, macros and widgets and when you find something there is no widget 
for, write one. That is, the focus again is on writing re-usable widgets 
that implement the missing behaviour that you need.

Keep in mind that the entire TiddlyWiki UI is written in this manner.

Macros  are used just to do text 
substitution. Most macros are defined in wikitext 
 but there are JavaScript 
macros 
 
as well.

Widgets 
 
are used to be build UI and associated behaviour. Note that there is a 
widget tree, and refresh is propagated through the widget tree from the 
root node.

So for instance if you wanted to create a button that displays a message to 
the user you could use something like this:

<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-notify" $param="HelloThere"/>
Click me!


What we have here is a button  
widget, which creates a button UI element which can be used to trigger action 
widgets .
In this particular case, we use the action-sendmessage widget which sends 
the message tm-notify, displaying the contents of the tiddler HelloThere.

ActionWidgets are a special case in that they don't implement any UI but 
rather carry out actions and are triggered by widgets that can trigger 
actions (such as Button or Checkbox etc..). Action widgets can be extremely 
powerful. As an example, in the Streams plugin 
, there is keyboard handling for 
moving between list items, indenting them etc. All of this is handled by 
actions.

Coming back to your example of showing an alert on clicking a button, as 
far as I can remember we do not have an action-widget for displaying 
alerts. So to implement this you would use a ButtonWidget as above, but 
with your own action-widget, let's call it action-alert.

A good starting point when writing a module for TiddlyWiki - we will come 
back to modules a little later for now just understand that widgets are a 
type of module - is to find a similar one to use as an example. For 
example, action-log.js 


Note that all widgets inherit from the Widget base class 
.
 
Now looking at action-log.js, note the comments at the top especially the 
lines for title, type and module-type. These are mapped to tiddler fields 
in a node.js environment, but can otherwise be added the usual way as 
fields. The module-type set to widget is what tells TiddlyWiki to treat the 
code in this tiddler as a widget.

In an action widget, it is the invokeAction 

 
method that is triggered when the action is executed by a triggering widget 
such as ButtonWidget. This is where your behaviour goes. The execute method 

 
is where you read and assign parameters accepted by the widget, in this 
case it would be the text to display. The refresh method determines what to 
do if the input parameters have changed, destroy and re-create the entire 
widget and its children if any, or selectively update attributes of the 
widget (and associated DOM nodes if any).

So using action-log.js as a starting point and making a few changes, we 
arrive at this to show alerts (untested code):
https://gist.github.com/saqimtiaz/4733d7a81784103d66610275a2160c93

Now you have an action-alert action widget that can be used whenever you 
need to trigger an alert for example:

<$button>
<$action-alert message="HelloThere"/>
Click me!


TiddlyWiki implements several module-types 
 which determine when and how 
JavaScript code is interpreted.

As we discussed above, Widget tiddlers have the module-type widget. 
Similarly tiddlers with the module-type startup 
are executed after loading 
all tiddlers and plugins but before the UI is displayed. (Note that 
tiddlywiki.com/dev is a better resource for JavaScript development).
Also perhaps useful to point out there that a plugin can contain several 
tiddlers, some of which may be startup modules and others may for example 
be widgets. That is, the JavaScript tiddlers in a plugin can be executed at 
different times.

Especially on the topic of startup behaviour, there are a

Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread TiddlyTweeter

Ciao moros...@gmail.com wrote:

> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>
> *v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500 
> icons*. 
>
> *Features*: 
>
>-  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler 
>Icons"*.
>
>
Super-good! IF a user can't find a needed icon in that brilliant collection 
then it probably does not exist!

ALSO, I want to comment, that "TW Icons" is likely the best example I have 
ever seen of a TW app at serious SCALE that works really well for purpose.

Best wishes
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] TOC generic - shows toc,backlinks,list and listed up front

2021-03-11 Thread Ray Vermey

Nice plugin thank you!

Ray

Op do 11 mrt. 2021 om 09:45 schreef HC Haase :

> I finally got something done :)
>
> @ hardco...@gmail.com
> finally freelinks
>
> @ arunn...@gmail.com
> Thanks for your patiened reminders..
>
> >Can you add a configuration panel like in the reference plug-in of
> TiddlyResearch  to turn on
> and off backlinks, freelinks, tags, lists as needed by the user
>
> I have added this for you... Tough I personally would recommend not to use
> it, as the lists will not appear if there is no connections in them.
> Instead I would leave them folded if I dont use them as much.
>
> any way enjoy.. I will continue the development.
>
>
> *Announcement*: TOC Generic
> *Date*: 2021/03/11
> *Release*: 2.2.0
>
> Downlaod/demo:
> https://hchaase.github.io/HC-Plugins/#TOC-Generic%20Introduction
> 
>
> v. 2.2.0
>
>- [New] added freelinks (copied form TWCrossLinks
>)
>for full match (partial match coming soon)
>- [New] added options to remove any of the lists (in settings)
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[tw5] Re: [Feedback wanted] Tweakable colour palette

2021-03-11 Thread TiddlyTweeter

Nice one!

The only thing I find confusing is HOW to save a new palette set?
Obviously end-users will be looking to save to new names & activate new 
palettes they make. 
It is just not so clear how to do that I think??

Purely FYI, Telmiger some time ago attempted to make a "Color Action 
" 
thing that tries to deal with "colour harmony" issues that Jermolene refers 
to.  
It is somewhat obscure how it works but I mention it because you might be 
able to benefit from seeing at least the concept behind it.

Best of luck
TT

On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 21:29:22 UTC+1 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just uploaded a hacked-together demo of a plugin for a palette that 
> you can tweak. The idea is that you choose a few colours you like (a 
> "mood") and decide which groups of features in TW get which of those 
> colours. The groups are not optimised and not all palette colour names from 
> Vanilla are incorporated.
>
> Moods plugin demo 
>
> I'd like to know if people think this would be useful/fun, and also in 
> which ways it's broken for others!
>
> Best,
> Chris
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread Ray Vermey

Very nice!!

Ray

Op do 11 mrt. 2021 om 09:42 schreef moros...@gmail.com :

> A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!
>
> *v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500
> icons*.
>
> *Features*:
>
>-  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler
>Icons"*.
>
>
> For more info, please checkout the "version history".
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:17:00 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I understand. I do not know enough however to know if there is a
>> difference in using tags or alias field. How that would impact the
>> performance. I think someone did a test of that long time ago.
>> unfortunately I was not able to find the result by searching.
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.59.52 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> @Birthe
>>>
>>> "Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed
>>> of use?"
>>>
>>> I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the
>>> icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app
>>> becomes somewhat irrelevant.
>>>
>>> It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages
>>> searching for your desired icons.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the
 beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it
 all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded.

 Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed
 of use?

 Birthe

 søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com
 :

> So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially
> "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method:
>
>
>- to add them as tags or
>- as a list in a field called "aliases".
>- or maybe both?
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest.
>> After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge
>> (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find 
>> my
>> work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its 
>> creators
>> and also to our community.
>>
>> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>>
>> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of
>> the libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add
>> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house,
>> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single
>> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>>>
>>> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was
>>> experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you 
>>> have
>>> imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node
>>> and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract
>>> the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler 
>>> data.
>>> (Repo: https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>>>
>>> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>>>
>>> ```
>>> caption: police-badge
>>> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it,
>>> it's to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
>>> name: andymeneely/police-badge
>>> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
>>> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
>>> type:
>>> ```
>>>
>>> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also
>>> have a separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>>>
>>> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I
>>> have available!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8
>>> moros...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files
 with some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are 
 done
 with PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the 
 TiddlyWiki
 formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file 
 which
 includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see
 below an example:

 {

Re: [tw5] Re: [plugin] TOC generic - shows toc,backlinks,list and listed up front

2021-03-11 Thread HC Haase

I finally got something done :)

@ hardco...@gmail.com 
finally freelinks

@ arunn...@gmail.com 
Thanks for your patiened reminders.. 

>Can you add a configuration panel like in the reference plug-in of 
TiddlyResearch  to turn on and 
off backlinks, freelinks, tags, lists as needed by the user 

I have added this for you... Tough I personally would recommend not to use 
it, as the lists will not appear if there is no connections in them. 
Instead I would leave them folded if I dont use them as much.

any way enjoy.. I will continue the development.


*Announcement*: TOC Generic
*Date*: 2021/03/11
*Release*: 2.2.0

Downlaod/demo: 
https://hchaase.github.io/HC-Plugins/#TOC-Generic%20Introduction 


v. 2.2.0

   - [New] added freelinks (copied form TWCrossLinks 
   ) 
   for full match (partial match coming soon)
   - [New] added options to remove any of the lists (in settings)

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-03-11 Thread moros...@gmail.com

 A new version of *"TW Icons"* is available !!!

*v1.3 *(https://morosanuae.github.io/tw-icons) now with a total of *~35500 
icons*. 

*Features*: 

   -  3 new libraries added: *"Boxicons"*, *"Emblemicons" *and* "Tabler 
   Icons"*.
   

For more info, please checkout the "version history". 


On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 3:17:00 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> I understand. I do not know enough however to know if there is a 
> difference in using tags or alias field. How that would impact the 
> performance. I think someone did a test of that long time ago. 
> unfortunately I was not able to find the result by searching.
>
> Birthe
>
> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.59.52 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>
>> @Birthe 
>>
>> "Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
>> use?"
>>
>> I guess this will somehow impact performance, but if you can't find the 
>> icons you need in a short amount of time, I think the speed of the app 
>> becomes somewhat irrelevant. 
>>
>> It may be relevant only if you want to visually parse all the pages 
>> searching for your desired icons.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:40:39 PM UTC+2 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Icons are lovely, lots of icons even better. The best part being the 
>>> beautiful presentation and ease of use. I am fascinated by the speed of it 
>>> all despite it being 35.7 mb big last time I downloaded. 
>>>
>>> Now wouldn't tags for aliases put a hefty burden on exactly the speed of 
>>> use?
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> søndag den 21. februar 2021 kl. 13.25.39 UTC+1 skrev moros...@gmail.com:
>>>
 So, as I said previously, I want to add metadata to icons, especially 
 "aliases", but I don't know what is the better method: 


- to add them as tags or 
- as a list in a field called "aliases". 
- or maybe both?


 What do you think? 

 On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 1:24:01 PM UTC+2 moros...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Pit.W. Thanks a lot Pit! I feel a little embarrassed to be honest. 
> After all, ANYONE can accomplish this with a little effort and knowledge 
> (just a little). But thanks anyway! I'm glad that you (and others) find 
> my 
> work useful. I consider this my tribute to TiddlyWiki app and its 
> creators 
> and also to our community. 
>
> @Mat And it may become even crazier! ;)
>
> @Joshua You're welcome! I also have discovered metadata for some of 
> the libraries, but I was thinking of an universal catalog. I want to add 
> metadata for the entire library, at least for generic icons (e.g. house, 
> book, people etc.) and their variants. And I want to do it in a single 
> operation, with big JSON file that contain all the icons.
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 2:24:21 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome, thank you for the example data file.
>>
>> I have meta-data available for a few of the libraries I was 
>> experimenting with. For example, for GameIcons.net (which I think you 
>> have 
>> imported), their website-catalog has tags for all the icons. I used Node 
>> and an 'R' script to manually download and partse each web-page, extract 
>> the meta-data (tags, etc), and then append that to the final Tiddler 
>> data. 
>> (Repo: https://github.com/joshuafontany/TW5-SVG-Scripts).
>>
>> This allowed me to extract, for example, the below block of the
>>
>> ```
>> caption: police-badge
>> description: Symbol of law enforcement. The best moment to show it, 
>> it's to shout "FBI" and break the door with a kick.
>> name: andymeneely/police-badge
>> tags: $:/tags/Icon police shield symbol
>> title: $:/icons/gameicons/andymeneely/police-badge
>> type: 
>> ```
>>
>> I have that for the whole library. The FontAwesome5 svg files also 
>> have a separate meta-data YAML file that I parsed for the meta-data.
>>
>> I will clone your repo and see how I can integrate the meta-data I 
>> have available!
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:39:14 AM UTC-8 moros...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Joshua As I said before, I've processed the original SVG files with 
>>> some scripts made in Windows 10 Powershell. All operations are done 
>>> with 
>>> PowerShell: creating files, replacing content, creating the TiddlyWiki 
>>> formal structure and adding content. The final output is a JSON file 
>>> which 
>>> includes an array of JS objects (every object is an icon). You can see 
>>> below an example:
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> "title":"$:/images/google-material-design/action/filled/18px/star-rate",
>>> "tags":"$:/tags/Image Icons Images SVG",
>>> "caption":"star-rate",
>>> "collection":"filled",
>>> "category":"Action",
>>>

[tw5] Re: Connected papers

2021-03-11 Thread TiddlyTweeter

Ciao Mohammad

Seems connected notes and links/backlinks are not limited to note taking 
apps. See how they are used here for scientific research
https://www.connectedpapers.com/

Right! Truth is net linkage strategies are not generally theorised in 
public well. The implications of different strategies are NOT so common 
knowledge.
TW, itself, can do any of them well, but lacking common understanding -- 
and comparative examples -- it is still something of a problem in terms of 
REAL practical utility, knowing which approach is correct for a specific 
wiki.

This is not, at root, a TW issue at all. Rather, it is a conceptual issue 
that has been with us a long time.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Searchable wiki on Google Drive