[tw5] Re: How do I store fields inside *.md files? As if it were a .tid file, without separating fields to the .meta file

[Shareda]

Got it! 
But to do that you have to edit boot.js

After this lines

$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/vnd.tiddlywiki","utf8",".tid");

$tw.utils.registerFileType("application/x-tiddler","utf8",".tid");

Add this ones

$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/vnd.tiddlywiki","utf8",".md");

$tw.utils.registerFileType("application/x-tiddler","utf8",".md");
And change this lines 


$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/markdown","utf8",[".md",".markdown"],{deserializerType:"text/x-markdown"});

$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/x-markdown","utf8",[".md",".markdown"]);
to


$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/markdown","utf8",[".mdX",".markdown"],{deserializerType:"text/x-markdown"});

$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/x-markdown","utf8",[".mdX",".markdown"]);
среда, 4 августа 2021 г. в 17:14:22 UTC+6, Shareda: 

> Thank you for answering! I did so, but got unwanted .meta files
>
> среда, 4 августа 2021 г. в 17:10:51 UTC+6, saq.i...@gmail.com: 
>
>> Look at the section on "File System Extensions" at 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 12:53:46 PM UTC+2 Shareda wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello! I am setting up my workflow using TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 on Node.js. 
>>> I would like to store and edit all of my tiddlers within the *.md files 
>>> with all their fields.
>>>
>>> How can I switch off the generating of the separate *.meta files for MD 
>>> format and store the filds the same way as they are stored in .tid files ? 
>>>
>>> My own research is about to fail :^)
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Notation editor

[TW Tones]

Arunn,

Attached are two new window buttons I created to edit a tiddler in a 
separate window, and also a view in separate window that uses the view 
template rather than just render the body.

These could be made into modals quite easily.

I will look at the command pallet plugin.

Tones

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 13:07:42 UTC+10 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> The search part could be done using command palette plug in and i am using 
> it in my wiki. It’s the tiddler viewing and editing within the same modal 
> which got me interested. 
> It must be difficult for Saq to find time to work on this at the moment. 
> That’s why I posted this video link so that someone else gets inspired to 
> create their own version of the notation editor.
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:58 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> arun..
>>
>> Various aspects of this are already available, and some could be 
>> recreated fairly easily. 
>>
>> Perhaps you can spell out features you would like to use.
>>
>>- have a look for the stories plugin or stroll edition by David 
>>Gifford for the duel story
>>- The actual notation modal is somewhat trivial for me to create, the 
>>only area I don't know how to handle is the interface for searching and 
>>selecting tiddler titles with its efficient dynamic viewing etc... 
>> Although 
>>an number of improvements of late and in the 5.2.0 prerelease will make 
>>this easier.
>>
>> Of course it would be nice if Saq can provide a published version of 
>> notation, how ever he has contributed a lot lately such as streams.
>>
>> In keeping with streams perhaps if Saq could just provide the tiddler 
>> selection and title search as a module, I could rebuild the notation 
>> solution myself, and make use of the module in other places.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 01:09:28 UTC+10 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This is the link  to a 1yr old tiddlywiki 
>>> hangout video with Saq where he is showing his workflow using Notation 
>>> editor. I first saw this video one year back when I started using 
>>> tiddlywiki. I don't think I fully understood the implementation at that 
>>> point. Yesterday I thought of seeing it again. I haven't seen any other 
>>> similar implementation in tiddlywiki yet and I wish to use it in my wiki 
>>> also. But I know that Saq doesn't have enough time to release it for public 
>>> use as he had told here 
>>> . 
>>> May be someone else gets inspired by seeing this video and build a similar 
>>> plug in for tiddlywiki. Or may be one day Saq can release it at least as a 
>>> proof of concept, so that we can just experience what we see in that video. 
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Notation editor

[arun babu]

The search part could be done using command palette plug in and i am using
it in my wiki. It’s the tiddler viewing and editing within the same modal
which got me interested.
It must be difficult for Saq to find time to work on this at the moment.
That’s why I posted this video link so that someone else gets inspired to
create their own version of the notation editor.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:58 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> arun..
>
> Various aspects of this are already available, and some could be recreated
> fairly easily.
>
> Perhaps you can spell out features you would like to use.
>
>- have a look for the stories plugin or stroll edition by David
>Gifford for the duel story
>- The actual notation modal is somewhat trivial for me to create, the
>only area I don't know how to handle is the interface for searching and
>selecting tiddler titles with its efficient dynamic viewing etc... Although
>an number of improvements of late and in the 5.2.0 prerelease will make
>this easier.
>
> Of course it would be nice if Saq can provide a published version of
> notation, how ever he has contributed a lot lately such as streams.
>
> In keeping with streams perhaps if Saq could just provide the tiddler
> selection and title search as a module, I could rebuild the notation
> solution myself, and make use of the module in other places.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 01:09:28 UTC+10 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This is the link  to a 1yr old tiddlywiki
>> hangout video with Saq where he is showing his workflow using Notation
>> editor. I first saw this video one year back when I started using
>> tiddlywiki. I don't think I fully understood the implementation at that
>> point. Yesterday I thought of seeing it again. I haven't seen any other
>> similar implementation in tiddlywiki yet and I wish to use it in my wiki
>> also. But I know that Saq doesn't have enough time to release it for public
>> use as he had told here
>> .
>> May be someone else gets inspired by seeing this video and build a similar
>> plug in for tiddlywiki. Or may be one day Saq can release it at least as a
>> proof of concept, so that we can just experience what we see in that video.
>
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[tw5] The synergy of TiddlyWiki + { ??? }

[Charlie Veniot]

*A "Note Taking in 2021 (article & reflection) 
" 
offshoot ...*

I've been really thinking about it a lot lately: although TiddlyWiki is my 
goto tool for serious information/knowledge/content management, it isn't my 
preferred tool when I do want to quickly want to write something down for 
later TiddlyWiki-ing.

So I was thinking, whatever tool(s) I prefer use in particular 
circumstance(s), I'd want some real synergy (?) between TiddlyWiki and the 
other tool(s): i.e. they compliment each other, and it is easy for me to 
copy content from one to the other, with TiddlyWiki being the central tool 
for that serious information/knowledge/content management.

Although gmail, google calendar and google keep tend to be my goto tools 
for quick jotting things down, I've been looking into the business of 
quickly writing more elaborate content on my chromebook (my goto machine 
for digital whatever, since I don't have a tablet and hate using 
smartphones unless I really have to.)

So after a lot of looking around (I still have some more experimenting to 
do), I think my star candidate is Zim Wiki for quick writing of things for 
later inclusion in a TiddlyWiki for some serious work.

   - To me, a wiki is not a wiki unless it can do transclusion, so a 
   consider Zim Wiki "wiki-esque"
   - So TiddlyWiki is the real workhorse because of transclusion and the 
   muscle of filtering

Early-going, I'm finding TiddlyWiki + Zim pretty sweet with "markdown" 
being the cross-copying glue between the two.

Some notes about Zim: 

   - really fast *(because not all content is loaded up in memory all at 
  once ?)*
 - *every page saved in its own text file*
  - wysiwyg is nice
  - has some nice plugins
 - Might be nice for some things, but I'm mostly focused on just 
 content that fits "markdown"
  - preference option: default format for copying text to the clipboard
 - text, Wiki (Zim's wikitext), *Markdown*, RST
  - has some nice plugins
  - might be nice for some things, but I'm mostly focused on just 
 content that fits "markdown"
 
To copy content from Zim to TiddlyWiki, I'm pretty sure "markdown" is the 
key to happiness:

   - Zim's copy page text to clipboard in markdown format
   - the TiddlyWiki Markdown plugin 
   , so that markdown 
   text can be pasted into a "text/x-markdown" tiddler

This is going to be one evolving story about "The synergy of TiddlyWiki + { 
??? }.  Maybe a video at some point.

Do you have a TiddlyWiki "synergy" story to share?

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[tw5] Re: Notation editor

[TW Tones]

arun..

Various aspects of this are already available, and some could be recreated 
fairly easily. 

Perhaps you can spell out features you would like to use.

   - have a look for the stories plugin or stroll edition by David Gifford 
   for the duel story
   - The actual notation modal is somewhat trivial for me to create, the 
   only area I don't know how to handle is the interface for searching and 
   selecting tiddler titles with its efficient dynamic viewing etc... Although 
   an number of improvements of late and in the 5.2.0 prerelease will make 
   this easier.

Of course it would be nice if Saq can provide a published version of 
notation, how ever he has contributed a lot lately such as streams.

In keeping with streams perhaps if Saq could just provide the tiddler 
selection and title search as a module, I could rebuild the notation 
solution myself, and make use of the module in other places.

Regards
Tones


On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 01:09:28 UTC+10 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is the link  to a 1yr old tiddlywiki 
> hangout video with Saq where he is showing his workflow using Notation 
> editor. I first saw this video one year back when I started using 
> tiddlywiki. I don't think I fully understood the implementation at that 
> point. Yesterday I thought of seeing it again. I haven't seen any other 
> similar implementation in tiddlywiki yet and I wish to use it in my wiki 
> also. But I know that Saq doesn't have enough time to release it for public 
> use as he had told here 
> . 
> May be someone else gets inspired by seeing this video and build a similar 
> plug in for tiddlywiki. Or may be one day Saq can release it at least as a 
> proof of concept, so that we can just experience what we see in that video. 

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[tw5] Re: Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[TW Tones]

I have raised an issue here in github 
, if you support 
this please thumbs up and comment.

Tones

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 11:12:40 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
> encoding.
>
> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
> Titles 
> 
>  set 
> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
> every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
>  [[Learning  |
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse.
>
> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with 
> your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation 
> History 
> .
>  
> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
> here.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>

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[tw5] Notes from the Coalface: Pasting URL's with pretty title

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a 
permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard 
option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with 
encoding.

I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > Tiddler 
Titles 

 set 
to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where 
every you see a link in a tiddler eg  Learning 
 [[Learning  
|https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] 
copt that with you mouse.

If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title with your 
mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; Navigation History 
.
 
It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki,  I will raise an issue on this. 
But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have done 
here.

Regards
Tones

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[tw5] Re: Need location of tiddler controlling link behavior

[TW Tones]

rpayn...

Some notes from the coalface

   - Most website have separate web pages for each apparent page, and as a 
   result anchors are unique to each page. With tiddlywiki all the content 
   resides, in effect, in a single page. As a result there are some neuences 
   using anchors within a tiddler. If they are the same as in other tiddlers 
   you may get some odd behaviour, if more than one tiddler is visible. There 
   was some hacks in the past that made this possible with the manual entry (I 
   recall something about using "##"). 
   - However in recent times there have been advances in this area that are 
   yet to play out, basically looking at creating unique html id's based on 
   both the tiddlername (or serial number) and incrementally numbered (in the 
   one tiddler).
   - In the meantime most of your needs are addressed in the documentation 
   here  Anchor Links using HTML 
   
   - HTML can be used to a great extent in tiddlywiki in addition to 
   Wikitext so if you know how to do it in html then you can possibly do it in 
   tiddlywiki, and in some cases you can even programmatically name tags 
   attributes or provide attribute values to html see my documentation and the 
   second section ❷ Widget and HTML attributes or parameters 
   

 this 
   then allows you to name anchors etc... 

Regards
Tones

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 06:37:15 UTC+10 rpayn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Mario.
> I am trying to get link clicks to go anchors within the same tiddler, 
> instead of the default action of looking for a tiddler external to the 
> current tiddler.
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 3:18:12 PM UTC-4 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> If a link is clicked, TW sends a tm-navigate message, which is catched by 
>> the navigator widget. 
>> There is a link-catcher widget, which will allow you to do a different 
>> thing instead using action widget. 
>>
>> If you would be more concrete, what you try to achieve we could probably 
>> point you in the exact direction. 
>>
>> Especially, if you want to control clicks in the story-river or if you 
>> want to change links in the sidebar. There is a big difference, where to 
>> place your changes.
>>
>> In the meantime have a closer look at. 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#LinkCatcherWidget
>>
>> have fun!
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: personal help?

[TW Tones]

Jamm?

I second Erics comment, and we know because we are amongst a few dozen 
regular contributors. "Direct from the horse's mouth" as they say.

Some times when people use what they think is a technical name they make it 
harder. Plane language can be the best way to ask questions to start with.

Regards
Tones
On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 09:48:52 UTC+10 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 4:26:42 PM UTC-7 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If I have trouble locating and naming my technical troubles, can this 
>> google group help? It seems personal support is not offered for many free 
>> less common web notebooks?
>
>
> I have been administrator of this group for over 15 years, and I have 
> always encouraged people to be helpful, especially when it comes to new 
> users of TiddlyWiki.
>
> Unlike other groups where the "experts" can sometimes be rather snarky and 
> even somewhat rude to new users, I think you will find that this group -- 
> and TiddlyWiki users in general -- are perhaps *among **the most helpful 
> group of people you will find for ANY software out there.*
>
> Not only are they happy to offer solutions when they can, but they will 
> often *help guide you to asking the right questions.*
>
> So *WELCOME!*... you've come to the right place! 
>
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> ELS Design Studios - "Intuitive Interfaces for Intelligent Interaction"
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: personal help?

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 4:26:42 PM UTC-7 jamm...@gmail.com wrote:

> If I have trouble locating and naming my technical troubles, can this 
> google group help? It seems personal support is not offered for many free 
> less common web notebooks?


I have been administrator of this group for over 15 years, and I have 
always encouraged people to be helpful, especially when it comes to new 
users of TiddlyWiki.

Unlike other groups where the "experts" can sometimes be rather snarky and 
even somewhat rude to new users, I think you will find that this group -- 
and TiddlyWiki users in general -- are perhaps *among **the most helpful 
group of people you will find for ANY software out there.*

Not only are they happy to offer solutions when they can, but they will 
often *help guide you to asking the right questions.*

So *WELCOME!*... you've come to the right place! 

-e
Eric Shulman
ELS Design Studios - "Intuitive Interfaces for Intelligent Interaction"
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)

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[tw5] personal help?

[Andrew Paul]

If I have trouble locating and naming my technical troubles, can this 
google group help? It seems personal support is not offered for many free 
less common web notebooks?

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[tw5] Re: Need location of tiddler controlling link behavior

[Robert Payne]

Thanks Mario.
I am trying to get link clicks to go anchors within the same tiddler, 
instead of the default action of looking for a tiddler external to the 
current tiddler.

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 3:18:12 PM UTC-4 PMario wrote:

> Hi,
> If a link is clicked, TW sends a tm-navigate message, which is catched by 
> the navigator widget. 
> There is a link-catcher widget, which will allow you to do a different 
> thing instead using action widget. 
>
> If you would be more concrete, what you try to achieve we could probably 
> point you in the exact direction. 
>
> Especially, if you want to control clicks in the story-river or if you 
> want to change links in the sidebar. There is a big difference, where to 
> place your changes.
>
> In the meantime have a closer look at. 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#LinkCatcherWidget
>
> have fun!
> -mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Need location of tiddler controlling link behavior

[PMario]

Hi,
If a link is clicked, TW sends a tm-navigate message, which is catched by 
the navigator widget. 
There is a link-catcher widget, which will allow you to do a different 
thing instead using action widget. 

If you would be more concrete, what you try to achieve we could probably 
point you in the exact direction. 

Especially, if you want to control clicks in the story-river or if you want 
to change links in the sidebar. There is a big difference, where to place 
your changes.

In the meantime have a closer look at. 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#LinkCatcherWidget

have fun!
-mario

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[tw5] Re: Voting for the v5.2.0 banner artwork

[Frank Bruns-Ballhausen]

Thank you very much for your congratulations. I am happy
... and I'll say it in my own language ... Ist ja geil :-)

But I wouldn't have thought that it would be this draft design of all 
things.
I would also like to thank all those who contributed. It was fun.
I hope everyone will be there again next time.

Best regards 
- Frank -

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Re: [tw5] Re: Picture based tiddlers

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 10:22:40 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

>
> Hm -dunno about that comment, but the Imgur-licensed app for iOS does 
> exactly what we're talking about here seamlessly, although you do have to 
> ignore all the other crap on the home screen, which is targeted to their 
> mainstream user base, NOT the niche that you and i represent,
>

I'll have to give it a try. I guess if it works, I don't understand why 
there would even be a 3rd part app. But I digress.
 

> So long as the .html file (presuming a single-file wiki) need never embed 
> an image file, but is instead just rendering it from online storage (and/or 
> from browser localStorage, in the TWOF scenario?), that is the magic that 
> needs enabling here, seems to me.
>
>
Although that would be nice, it would be OK if the image temporarily 
resided in the TW.  
Thanks!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Picture based tiddlers

[ludwa6]

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 5:39:58 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> ...Does the imgur app allow you to take pictures? 
>

Yessir: you click the '+' button at top of screen, select your preferred 
upload option -from camera (button takes you there), else from your Imgur 
library or system file-picker- and then you select either "Public" or 
"Hidden" and upload. Easy as falling off a log!  /w
 

> The only imgur-sponsored app I could find on playstore promised "Imgur: 
> Find funny GIFs, memes & watch viral videos". That's not my interest. 
>

Not mine neither! But that is indeed how the app is described and marketed, 
and that's how they make their money.  In this attention (i.e. ad-funded) 
economy, there is apparently a very significant market of people who spend 
significant time watching "funny GIFs, memes & viral videos," and that's 
what pays the freight on this image hosting.  /w
 

> Maybe the app does more, but it needs to say so in the description. It 
> goes on for four paragraphs about all the material you'll see. A comment in 
> the reviews says that the ability to post has been broken for a year.
>

Hm -dunno about that comment, but the Imgur-licensed app for iOS does 
exactly what we're talking about here seamlessly, although you do have to 
ignore all the other crap on the home screen, which is targeted to their 
mainstream user base, NOT the niche that you and i represent, Mark. We're 
definitely not alone in this -Imgur has been for a good few years already 
the goto app for many DIY Maker-types that have a story to tell via series 
of annotated images (for example check out the Reddit boards that are that 
way inclined)- but this is not the user base that Imgur gets paid to 
attract, i suppose, so i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to change 
their positioning in App Store or Google Play.  /w
 

> Yes, I'm sure you can use the web based imgur to copy addresses and then 
> copy/paste them into a TW. But it's a several step process and definitely 
> not convenient on a small screen. 
>

> The ideal solution would allow you to take an imported image in TW and 
> directly post it to your own imgur account, and then create the 
> corresponding image tiddler.
>

So long as the .html file (presuming a single-file wiki) need never embed 
an image file, but is instead just rendering it from online storage (and/or 
from browser localStorage, in the TWOF scenario?), that is the magic that 
needs enabling here, seems to me.

/walt

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Yes, it is possible!

hack the $:/plugins/kookma/viewtemplates/node-explorer
and search the fields containing the links (use regexp)! Note that right
now the dynamic table cannot display a correct type for links in the
fields, but you may hide the type!

I myself like simplicity, so for me the text field is enough to be scanned!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:24 PM Paul Hampshire  wrote:

> Is there a way to have Node Explorer include links that are in custom
> fields in tiddlers?
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-4 si wrote:
>
>> >>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>>
 Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing
 with column templates to see how they work.

 Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic
 table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.

>>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the
> current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that
> tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
> recently implemented in
> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>
> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection
> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to
> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
> For details see
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
> Explorer on demand!
>
>
> *Code and demo*
>
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>
>
> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

[Paul Hampshire]

Is there a way to have Node Explorer include links that are in custom 
fields in tiddlers? 

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-4 si wrote:

> >>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084  
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing 
>>> with column templates to see how they work.
>>>
>>> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic 
>>> table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>>>
>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084 
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the 
 current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that 
 tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method  
 recently implemented in 
 Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see 
 https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)

 The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection of 
 dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to show 
 links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
 For details see 
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
 You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node 
 Explorer on demand!


 *Code and demo*


- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz


 It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.


 If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz


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Re: [tw5] Re: Picture based tiddlers

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

> Can't say much as to how this works technically, but as a naive user of 
> both Imgur and TWOF, i can affirm that:
>
>1. I use Imgur both on web *and* mobile, to read and post both public 
>*and* hidden images and albums, and the authentication is perfectly 
>seamless; enter id & pwd once, and it will remember your codes as long as 
>you like (maybe there's a default logout, but i'm in often enough, it 
> seems 
>never have to re-authenticate). Can't speak to the Android issue that 
> @Mark 
>raised, but the iOS app works great for me.
>2. 
>
> Does the imgur app allow you to take pictures? The only imgur-sponsored 
app I could find on playstore promised "Imgur: Find funny GIFs, memes & 
watch viral videos". That's not my interest. Maybe the app does more, but 
it needs to say so in the description. It goes on for four paragraphs about 
all the material you'll see. A comment in the reviews says that the ability 
to post has been broken for a year.

The 3rd party app I did find could load your pictures to imgur but did not 
use your own imgur account, so there's no telling when your post will be 
trimmed.

Yes, I'm sure you can use the web based imgur to copy addresses and then 
copy/paste them into a TW. But it's a several step process and definitely 
not convenient on a small screen.

The ideal solution would allow you to take an imported image in TW and 
directly post it to your own imgur account, and then create the 
corresponding image tiddler.


 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Picture based tiddlers

[ludwa6]

Can't say much as to how this works technically, but as a naive user of 
both Imgur and TWOF, i can affirm that:

   1. I use Imgur both on web *and* mobile, to read and post both public 
   *and* hidden images and albums, and the authentication is perfectly 
   seamless; enter id & pwd once, and it will remember your codes as long as 
   you like (maybe there's a default logout, but i'm in often enough, it seems 
   never have to re-authenticate). Can't speak to the Android issue that @Mark 
   raised, but the iOS app works great for me.
   2. As for TiddlyWiki-On-Fission: this too seemed a perfectly seamless 
   experience, when i set up this instance 
    back in March; 
   haven't done much with it since then, as it still carries the 
   not-ready-for-production-use disclaimer, but even now... The way this tech 
   connects your browser's localStorage to the IPFS cloud in such a way that 
   you can totally forget about where the files reside just feels to like 
   magic of the right kind.  Like: this is the way it *should* work, 
   everywhere.

Yet, there being "no free lunch," i guess there's gotta be a host in there 
somewhere -and so, w/r/t/ images at least, in terms of both technical and 
end-user values, TWOF & Imgur look to me like being pretty well-aligned.  
 By far the lion's share of image-enhanced tiddlers i have created are 
pulling from Imgur-hosted links already, so if i could upload and/or 
download to&from there from within TW itself, that would be awesome!  

Is this consistent w/ the vision for TW-on-Fission, i wonder?

/walt


On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 2:50:55 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 7:48:10 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Saq,
>
>
>> There remains a barrier to my understanding because most of the details 
>> seem to make sense to "those in the know." 
>>
>>
> Yes! Atom. Electron. Fission. IPFS.  It's taken for granted that everyone 
> knows what this means and what the implications are. 
>
> In terms of single-file solutions, exporting via the zip plugin seems to 
> be the only practicable solution. On Android, a Tiddloid-like app could 
> upload to imgur or some place. However I wonder about the authentication. I 
> downloaded an Android app for uploading to that has thousands of users and 
> was surprised that there was no way to connect to your personal imgur 
> account. This means all posts will be public, none can go to your paid 
> account, and that you can't manage them over time.   
>  
>

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[tw5] Notation editor

[arun babu]

This is the link  to a 1yr old tiddlywiki 
hangout video with Saq where he is showing his workflow using Notation 
editor. I first saw this video one year back when I started using 
tiddlywiki. I don't think I fully understood the implementation at that 
point. Yesterday I thought of seeing it again. I haven't seen any other 
similar implementation in tiddlywiki yet and I wish to use it in my wiki 
also. But I know that Saq doesn't have enough time to release it for public 
use as he had told here 
. May 
be someone else gets inspired by seeing this video and build a similar plug 
in for tiddlywiki. Or may be one day Saq can release it at least as a proof 
of concept, so that we can just experience what we see in that video. 

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[tw5] Need location of tiddler controlling link behavior

[Robert Payne]

I am trying to locate the code that controls what happens when a link is 
clicked inside the tiddlywiki so that I can create a custom shadow tiddler 
that overrides the default behavior.
Can someone tell me where it is?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Picture based tiddlers

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 7:48:10 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Saq,
>
> There remains a barrier to my understanding because most of the details 
> seem to make sense to "those in the know." 
>
>
Yes! Atom. Electron. Fission. IPFS.  It's taken for granted that everyone 
knows what this means and what the implications are. 

In terms of single-file solutions, exporting via the zip plugin seems to be 
the only practicable solution. On Android, a Tiddloid-like app could upload 
to imgur or some place. However I wonder about the authentication. I 
downloaded an Android app for uploading to that has thousands of users and 
was surprised that there was no way to connect to your personal imgur 
account. This means all posts will be public, none can go to your paid 
account, and that you can't manage them over time.   
 

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[tw5] Re: How to batch import journal entries?

[TW Tones]

Good to here,

Once you develop a set of action widgets, to use the variables in my 
example to set fields in the matching field tiddlers, you can then wrap a 
list in a button to trigger it. click and the various actions are executed 
for each tiddler.
If you separate the date  MM and DD hh and mm (add 12 to hh if PM) you 
can make a new date time stamp and apply that to your custom field.

   - Look for the date picker if you want to interactively set a date
   - remember excise allows to to split one tiddler into two
   - use the viewWidget to display a tiddlywiki serial date in any date 
   format with the template paramter

You will get there.
Feel free to ask more questions.

Tones

On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 15:42:54 UTC+10 maxhi...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://imgur.com/a/Hnrrk4L
>
> Oh i see, my content type was set to plaintext. It does indeed work, with 
> a few hiccups but i can do manual correction on those. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 1:01:56 PM UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> maxhi,
>>
>> if you imported the file dir.csv then put the code I gave you in another 
>> tiddler. And you could see how it lists the details for each text file.
>>
>> If you have imported the files with the same name already you are almost 
>> done.
>>
>> Let me know where you are, but I clearly assumed a little more experience 
>> with TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 13:12:45 UTC+10 maxhi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> i've imported a chunk of my stuff to test but i'm not quite sure how to 
>>> run the code? Sorry, i've never used tiddlywiki before this and all the 
>>> documentation seems really dense. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 10:30:30 AM UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Here is the csv attached

 You can drop it on your wiki and import it, then once you have the text 
 files imported (with matching filenames) we can use this to lookup the 
 dates and save it to the matching tiddler.
 If fieldnames include special characters, or comas quotes you may need 
 to handle a few manually.

- Unfortunately the size includes commas, but we don't need the 
   size, we can get the first items and the last items (filename)

 If something like this works we can use it to update fields in the 
 matching tiddlers. 

 <$list filter="[[dir.csv]get[text]splitregexp[\n]]" variable=each-line>
<$set name="date" value={{{ [split[,]first[]] }}}>
<$set name="time" value={{{ [split[,]nth[2]] }}}>
<$set name="am-pm" value={{{ [split[,]nth[3]] }}}>
<$set name="filename" value={{{ [split[,]last[3]first[]] 
 }}}>
  <>,<>,<>,<> 

 

 Regards
 ]Tones

 On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 09:24:51 UTC+10 maxhi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I've got the filenames, but i'm not particularly good with excel, 
> could you help? 
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HTziGPLdvb6paFfrz93ME4-nYxfW2ynq/view?usp=sharing
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:46:57 AM UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Morning.
>>
>> Errata: use this  <$browse multiple/> I forgot the "/"
>>
>> I would consider as a windows user, using dir > file.txt
>> then import this to excel and use the text to columns, then save as a 
>> csv.
>>
>> If you are not confident to do this send the text file to me and I 
>> can prepare it and return it. Just the filenames list,  not the files.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 00:54:11 UTC+10 maxhi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Approaching midnight for me too, so i'll leave the answers here 
>>> since i won't be able to reply for a hilwe
>>>
>>> - yes every file name is unique
>>> - i'm not exactly sure how to do that, but i'll try to get it done 
>>> tommorow morning
>>>
>>> Making custom buttons sounds like a good plan! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:47:50 PM UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 maxhi,

 It is approaching midnight here in Australia, So I hope to reply 
 tomorrow if others don't)


- Am I correct in saying every filename is unique? It looks 
like you have what you need. 
- Can you import the list of filenames and their dates?
- If you use  <$browse multiple> you can import multiple files 
at once. I recommend batches. Drag and drop multiple files also 
 works


 If you make new fields its easy to automate their use or do a bulk 
 conversion (list inside a button wrapping action widgets). Typically 
 however we setup a list widget to review tiddlers or use search and 
 these 
 can be designed to accommodate anything. The best approach is to try 
 and 
 keep it simple to start with, and 

[tw5] Re: How do I store fields inside *.md files? As if it were a .tid file, without separating fields to the .meta file

[Shareda]

Thank you for answering! I did so, but got unwanted .meta files

среда, 4 августа 2021 г. в 17:10:51 UTC+6, saq.i...@gmail.com: 

> Look at the section on "File System Extensions" at 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 12:53:46 PM UTC+2 Shareda wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello! I am setting up my workflow using TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 on Node.js. 
>> I would like to store and edit all of my tiddlers within the *.md files 
>> with all their fields.
>>
>> How can I switch off the generating of the separate *.meta files for MD 
>> format and store the filds the same way as they are stored in .tid files ? 
>>
>> My own research is about to fail :^)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How do I store fields inside *.md files? As if it were a .tid file, without separating fields to the .meta file

[Shareda]

In another words I want to replace ".tid" by ".md" for the filesystem.

среда, 4 августа 2021 г. в 16:53:46 UTC+6, Shareda: 

>
> Hello! I am setting up my workflow using TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 on Node.js. 
> I would like to store and edit all of my tiddlers within the *.md files 
> with all their fields.
>
> How can I switch off the generating of the separate *.meta files for MD 
> format and store the filds the same way as they are stored in .tid files ? 
>
> My own research is about to fail :^)

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[tw5] Re: How do I store fields inside *.md files? As if it were a .tid file, without separating fields to the .meta file

[Saq Imtiaz]

Look at the section on "File System Extensions" 
at https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 12:53:46 PM UTC+2 Shareda wrote:

>
> Hello! I am setting up my workflow using TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 on Node.js. 
> I would like to store and edit all of my tiddlers within the *.md files 
> with all their fields.
>
> How can I switch off the generating of the separate *.meta files for MD 
> format and store the filds the same way as they are stored in .tid files ? 
>
> My own research is about to fail :^)

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[tw5] How do I store fields inside *.md files? As if it were a .tid file, without separating fields to the .meta file

[Shareda]

Hello! I am setting up my workflow using TiddlyWiki 5.1.23 on Node.js. 
I would like to store and edit all of my tiddlers within the *.md files 
with all their fields.

How can I switch off the generating of the separate *.meta files for MD 
format and store the filds the same way as they are stored in .tid files ? 

My own research is about to fail :^)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Voting for the v5.2.0 banner artwork

[David Gifford]

Nice! Congratulations Frank!

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 4:55:09 PM UTC-4 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> I'm delighted to announce that the winner of the v5.2.0 banner artwork 
> competition is Frank B with this design:
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Voting for the v5.2.0 banner artwork

[Mat]

Yay! Congrats to Frank for winning the - by far- toughest banner 
competition yet!

<:-)

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 10:55:09 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> I'm delighted to announce that the winner of the v5.2.0 banner artwork 
> competition is Frank B with this design:
>
>

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[tw5] Re: $edit-text loses focus on input... or does it?

[PMario]

Hi Eric,

I think it's because the tiddler-widget does much more and different things 
as the list widget. See the code: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/8e69284e8c6b99a6aa8d3d1001d5a1920d814a9c/core/modules/widgets/tiddler.js#L91
 
see the  newTiddlerState.hash condition 

When the "target" tiddler is created, imo the tiddler-widget refresh is 
triggered by the core change-event, which causes a redraw of the 
tiddler-widget. .. When the tiddler exists, imo the refresh isn't triggered 
anymore since the "tiddler parameter" didn't change 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Voting for the v5.2.0 banner artwork

[PMario]

Frank, 
also congratulation from my side. Well done!
-mario

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