from:"BurningTreeC"

I was playing around with this library

https://github.com/haltu/muuri

... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*


I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
tw widgets ...



Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

you're welcome


Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 15:20:08 UTC+1 schrieb Diego Mesa:
>
> Wow! Thanks for bringing this to my attention and for the demo!
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:31:55 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I was playing around with this library
>>
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
>> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>
>>
>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>> and tw widgets ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

it's great because through https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js it's 
touchable - it works in the tiddlyspot demo ... not on firefox, but on 
chromium ... I guess also on chrome

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 15:24:50 UTC+1 schrieb coda coder:
>
> Excellent library!  I'm sure someone will make use of it (the 
> Kanban/Dropboard stuff springs to mind).
>
> One thing I noticed in passing, that README.md is a prime candidate for 
> TiddlyWikification!
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:31:55 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I was playing around with this library
>>
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
>> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>
>>
>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>> and tw widgets ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

the README is really good, you're right

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 15:24:50 UTC+1 schrieb coda coder:
>
> Excellent library!  I'm sure someone will make use of it (the 
> Kanban/Dropboard stuff springs to mind).
>
> One thing I noticed in passing, that README.md is a prime candidate for 
> TiddlyWikification!
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:31:55 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I was playing around with this library
>>
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
>> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>
>>
>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>> and tw widgets ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

On Linux with chromium touch, digitizer and mouse work like they should

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 16:15:04 UTC+1 schrieb coda coder:
>
> Interesting.  I tested Win10 on...
>
> 1 - Beaker - works partly. Some elements refuse to land where they're 
> dropped (in places where they should land fine).
>
> 2 - Edge - seems to start working then the javascript complains with a red 
> box.
>
> 3 - Firefox - agreed, no response.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 9:01:07 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> it's great because through https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js it's 
>> touchable - it works in the tiddlyspot demo ... not on (my) firefox, but on 
>> chromium ... I guess also on chrome
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 15:24:50 UTC+1 schrieb coda coder:
>>>
>>> Excellent library!  I'm sure someone will make use of it (the 
>>> Kanban/Dropboard stuff springs to mind).
>>>
>>> One thing I noticed in passing, that README.md is a prime candidate for 
>>> TiddlyWikification!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:31:55 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was playing around with this library
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>>
>>>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *  
>>>>  - But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>>>> and tw widgets ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: How do I filter by date (of creation) for transclusion list?

\define getTiddlerTitle()
<$list 
filter="[all[tiddlers]field:created[$(currentYear)$$(currentMonth)$$(currentTiddler)$]]">

{{!!title}}


\end

<$vars currentMonth=<> currentYear=<>>

<$list 
filter="[all[tiddlers]!has[draft.of]!sort[created]get[created]removeprefixremoveprefixlimit[3]]">
<>
 
 
 

Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017 18:00:28 UTC+1 schrieb Lost Admin:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I started using TiddlyWiki as a tool to quickly make a small website. I 
> would like to make an announcements/news section. I figured using the 
> Journal tiddler technique would make a good way to generate a news list. It 
> sorts by date and I can easily use the table-of-contents macro to generate 
> a page listing all the news tiddlers.
>
> I would also like to have a subset of the most recent news show up on the 
> default tiddler (transcluding them). I can't figure out how to make a 
> filter to generate the list of tiddlers to transclude. Is there an easy way 
> to do this? I'm thinking something like:
>
> All journal tiddlers that were created in the last month. Possibly further 
> filtered by only displaying the most recent 3 in that list if there are 
> more than 3 entries in that list.
>

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[tw] Re: How do I filter by date (of creation) for transclusion list?

Ok, I'll explain:

The macro *doesn't *get called first.

first the currentMonth and currentYear variables are defined.

Then the filter  
[all[tiddlers]!has[draft.of]!sort[created]get[created]removeprefixremoveprefixlimit[3]
  
does:

1: all tiddlers not currently open
2: !sort[created]  ... sort by creation date but in reverse order - so the 
last created are on top of the list. Now the filter shows the creation 
dates of the tiddlers, not the names. The creation dates have the form: 
20171205
3: removeprefix ... removes the prefix "2017" from the 
creation dates. if the prefix is not 2017 the tiddler doesn't pass the 
filter. removeprefix then removes the prefix "12" . Every 
tiddler that doesn't have "12" as prefix at that point doesn't pass. then 
limi[3] chooses the last three.


4. now you have the last three creation dates but without 201712 at the 
beginning. Just 

5. <> now calls the macro that is defined on top (macros 
have to be defined on top of the tiddler).

6. the filter 
[all[tiddlers]field:created[$(currentYear)$$(currentMonth)$$(currentTiddler)$]] 
 
now filters all tiddlers with creation date 
$(currentYear)$$(currentMonth)$$(currentTiddler)$ ... currentYear=2017 
currentMonth=12 currentTiddler=the filter result from the 
removeprefix-filter. that is just the creation date without year and month. 
This filter makes a puzzle.

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 20:36:15 UTC+1 schrieb Lost Admin:
>
> I understand some of what is going on there. You define a macro that 
> prints the titles of all tiddlers with a creation date that matches 3 
> variables (currentYear, currentMonths, and currentTiddler).
>
> Then you define currentYear and currentMonth to be (as the name suggests) 
> the current year and current month.
>
> The last filter loses me bit. It starts out building a list of all non 
> draft (not being edited) tiddlers, all[tiddlers]!has[
> draft.of]
>
> Then, I think it sorts by the created field (so I get most recent at the 
> top of the list). The removeprefix loses me.
> The limit[3], I understand. That says only give the first three results.
>
> I'm not sure how this works for notices that went up on say the 30th of 
> the previous month when it is the 1st. Those would be less than a month old 
> but aren't in the current month.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 12:17:02 PM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> \define getTiddlerTitle()
>> <$list 
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]field:created[$(currentYear)$$(currentMonth)$$(currentTiddler)$]]">
>>
>> {{!!title}}
>>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> <$vars currentMonth=<> currentYear=<>>
>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]!has[draft.of]!sort[created]get[created]removeprefixremoveprefixlimit[3]]">
>> <>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>> Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017 18:00:28 UTC+1 schrieb Lost Admin:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I started using TiddlyWiki as a tool to quickly make a small website. I 
>>> would like to make an announcements/news section. I figured using the 
>>> Journal tiddler technique would make a good way to generate a news list. It 
>>> sorts by date and I can easily use the table-of-contents macro to generate 
>>> a page listing all the news tiddlers.
>>>
>>> I would also like to have a subset of the most recent news show up on 
>>> the default tiddler (transcluding them). I can't figure out how to make a 
>>> filter to generate the list of tiddlers to transclude. Is there an easy way 
>>> to do this? I'm thinking something like:
>>>
>>> All journal tiddlers that were created in the last month. Possibly 
>>> further filtered by only displaying the most recent 3 in that list if there 
>>> are more than 3 entries in that list.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

Yes, the kanban setup looks very good. I would need some documentation or 
advice about how to integrate this correctly.

The grid would have to readjust if hiding the sidebar and reload after 
editing its tiddler.

Also, having the library create new elements out of tw macrocalls ...


These things atm are giving me headaches

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 20:45:27 UTC+1 schrieb Abraham Samma:
>
> I like that Kanban setup. Should consider taking it further with this 
> library.
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 4:31:55 PM UTC+3, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I was playing around with this library
>>
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
>> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>
>>
>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>> and tw widgets ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: how do display all tiddlers created on a particular day

2017-12-06 Thread BurningTreeC

couldn't you sort it by creation date, not by modification date?

like !sort[created]

Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 11:33:11 UTC+1 schrieb christianhauck:
>
> I have journal tiddlers with the date as title - I changed the format 
> to -0MM-0DD ddd , for example today is "2017-12-06 Wed"
>
> I try to have a function (which I could transclude in the template for 
> journal tiddlers at the bottom) which does the following:
> - look up the title (not use the date, but the title, because I might 
> finish yesterday's journal only today (or even tomorrow), then it is about 
> yesterday: the title is yesterday (but as text, format  -0MM-0DD ddd) 
> whereas the date of the tiddler is today, whenever I do the last 
> modification..
> - display a list of the tiddlers modified on that day, in a format similar 
> to how they are shown in the sidebar (list down).
> So that each journal shows, at the bottom, a list of all tiddlers modified 
> on that day.
> It should be a function which does that calculation whenever it is called, 
> I don't try to hard-instantiate the list of the tiddlers per day in the 
> journal.
>
> I tried but failed, thanks for help
>
> /chris
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-08 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE: touch is working like a charm on Linux -  firefox developer edition

I'm going to update muritest.tiddyspot.com soon with more functionality

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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Re: [tw] muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-09 Thread BurningTreeC

cool idea!

Am Samstag, 9. Dezember 2017 10:23:40 UTC+1 schrieb AlexHough:
>
> Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could drag boxes into boxes and zoom in
>
> Alex
>
> On Saturday, 9 December 2017, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> UPDATE: touch is working like a charm on Linux -  firefox developer 
>> edition
>>
>> I'm going to update muritest.tiddyspot.com soon with more functionality
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> I was playing around with this library
>>>
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *  
>>>  - But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>>> and tw widgets ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>>
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-09 Thread BurningTreeC

kudos to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material who has already made a 
muuri plugin

http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ 
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmuritest.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgVGdWvDLVYlQBP38nlgtYoxGQWw>
 is 
updated to use this plugin with hammer.js

you can try to drag items around. navigating with the "Open" sidebar tab 
works, too.

with a touchscreen you can drag multiple items at once.

edit mode needs some ideas because it can throw errors while editing and 
klicking / dragging inside editor... maybe a separate container where 
tiddlers are put for editing...

any ideas welcome!

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmuritest.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgVGdWvDLVYlQBP38nlgtYoxGQWw>
>  *   - But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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Re: [tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-10 Thread BurningTreeC

thanks!

Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 13:57:05 UTC+1 schrieb AlexHough:
>
> Wow!
>
> Kudos indeed!
>
> Both these are really inspiring!
>
> Alex
>
> On 9 December 2017 at 15:42, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> kudos to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material who has already made a 
>> muuri plugin
>>
>> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmuritest.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgVGdWvDLVYlQBP38nlgtYoxGQWw>
>>  is 
>> updated to use this plugin with hammer.js
>>
>> you can try to drag items around. navigating with the "Open" sidebar tab 
>> works, too.
>>
>> with a touchscreen you can drag multiple items at once.
>>
>> edit mode needs some ideas because it can throw errors while editing and 
>> klicking / dragging inside editor... maybe a separate container where 
>> tiddlers are put for editing...
>>
>> any ideas welcome!
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> I was playing around with this library
>>>
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmuritest.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgVGdWvDLVYlQBP38nlgtYoxGQWw>
>>>  *   - But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>>> and tw widgets ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-10 Thread BurningTreeC

thank you!

Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 19:59:39 UTC+1 schrieb Sylvain Naudin:
>
>
>
> Le dimanche 10 décembre 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, BurningTreeC a écrit :
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 13:57:05 UTC+1 schrieb AlexHough:
>>>
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Kudos indeed!
>>>
>>> Both these are really inspiring!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>
> Hi BurningTree,
>
> Just test it on Firefox 57 under Fedora 27 and looks great !
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvain
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-10 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE: now works on firefox for android. now displays two columns in 
landscape mode on small screens.

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-11 Thread BurningTreeC

Right now I'm looking for a way to get pinch to zoom working, so that 
single tiddlers can be zoomed. hammer.js provides that but atm I don't know 
how to do it.
I'd appreciate your help if you can provide some tips for how to do it in a 
simple way.

I would also need some ideas for scrolling. with the drag-behaviour, 
touch-scrolling gets difficult and there should be a way to do it.

last but not least I'm looking for a way to have the StoryList synced with 
muuri - also therefor, every tip, idea and help is very welcome!

comments welcome!

salute!

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
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[tw] Re: Trying to install on MX-17 Linux

2017-12-13 Thread BurningTreeC

I think you just need a .desktop file

create a file inside ~/.local/share/applications/ and name it 
"TiddlyDesktop.desktop"

put this inside, replace PATH_TO_YOUR_NW with the path of your unzipped 
tiddlydesktop archive, then save the file and double klick it.

[Desktop Entry]
Categories=;
Comment=TiddlyDesktop
Exec=PATH_TO_YOUR_NW/nw
GenericName=TiddlyDesktop
Hidden=false
Icon=
Name=TiddlyDesktop
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Version=1.0

Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017 15:29:24 UTC+1 schrieb DaComboMan:
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> After unzipping the file, clicking NW opens window asking for which app. 
> to open it with.
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-15 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE:

New: multitouch zooming on tiddlers. You can zoom single tiddlers in and 
out.

uses https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion ...

This is just for playing and demonstration purposes. Like @TiddlyTweeter 
said, it would be great if something like this would be possible  without 
depending on many external libraries.

The implementation of the drag&drop and zooming needs work - I'll get there 
with some js studying - I'm a newb going to be a newbie ;)

However, I'd like to know if you like it, if you think this should be 
something TW should be able to do - maybe it's already capable of doing 
this without big effort?

http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com


cheers, BurningTreeC

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-15 Thread BurningTreeC

does a relative path work?


like [img[../../picfolder/image.jpg]] - relative to the folder where your 
tw.html is?

Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 11:03:57 UTC+1 schrieb Surya:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-15 Thread BurningTreeC

@TonyM, thanks for your detailed comment!

yes, indeed - tw is already capable to do amazing things

to figure out what's possible to do is one aspect of this great piece of 
software - being capable to add new things and flexibility is another


I'm also thinking about having a plugin for such functionality as in the 
example, by time I'll figure out how

Yes, I've seen that it's sensible not to compromise existing features when 
trying to add new ones. How you do it matters a lot in this context


The existing kanban plugins are something I like - I'd wish to have a 
drag&drop plugin that adds flexible functionality that's accessible to use 
"on the fly" with a widget.
To figure out how is the main process here

The filtering is already a built-in as demonstrated in this grid 
demo: https://haltu.github.io/muuri/ ... another thing one may want as 
option


@Diego Mesa - thanks, glad you like it!



Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

thanks @Jed Carty, I think this may be because it uses web-animations and 
safari doesn't (fully?) support that.
Icluding web-animations as a library should solve that

I'm going to post an update when I know more

Am Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 10:44:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> This looks really good but I am getting the red box of doom every time I 
> move a tiddler on Safari using osx high sierra. I can drag the tiddlers 
> around and they stay where I put them, but they never reorganise.
>
> It says 'inst._element.animate is not a function' if that is helpful.
>
> But on my linux desktop (Linux Mint 17.04, Firefox 57) it works and is 
> really nice.
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

UPDATE @Jed Carty

I did an ugly web-animations integration - on my girlfriend's safari 
dragging and reorganizing works with that solution

But I didn't try it before, so her safari could still be better than yours


Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
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> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

thanks, thats great


Am Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 12:36:52 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> It is working on all the browsers I have access to now. There are some 
> oddities in the layout where some tiddlers overlap others by a tiny amount. 
> But that does show off the z level sorting as a tiddler gains focus.
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

I'd appreciate some ideas for editing and mobile view - how to show 
tiddlers ... where to show them - maybe full screen when editing - in 
mobile just two in a row or more? zooming them in with a gesture? 

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

2017-12-18 Thread BurningTreeC

another update: now newly created tiddlers are zoomable, too
zooming now most of the time should work at the correct position


Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

I think that, too

I'm also on linux and tested with some files and folders with spaces.
You need to replace the spaces in the filename with %20

the best thing would be to name folders WITHOUT spaces, you could use _ 
instead of spaces.
That avoids having problems like this one

Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 13:59:31 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:
>
> Hi Surya
>
> You were able to see your image in the browser, you did test that.
>
> I think you have to look into your path. When I tested it none of my 
> folders had any spaces in their names. Browsers changes the way they are 
> written filling out the spaces with %20. Also never use special characters, 
> I always have to be careful myself being danish (æ,ø and å). Also remember 
> it is case sensitive.
>
> Really I think you problem is down to folder names with multi words and 
> spaces between them.
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
>
> Den tirsdag den 19. december 2017 kl. 13.40.40 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>>
>> So, what can I do now to get it work?
>>
>> How can I find out if it is like this?
>>>
>> *>>>But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't have 
>> rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing the 
>> path in a browser tab.* 
>>  
>> And what to do then?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

zooming and rotating makes it kinda messy right now :'(

I need some time to sort all options out... meanwhile, anyone who finds 
this idea useful and some nice or stupid ideas?
the stupid ones are the best ones btw

greets from snowy austria

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> I was playing around with this library
>
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *   - 
> But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>
>
> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript and 
> tw widgets ...
>
>
>
> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
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[tw] Re: muuri.js library useful? any Ideas how to use this?

Hello Diego,
yes! that's going to be useful, a popup like the paletteswitcher to set 
different tiddler sizes maybe, there you could also select it as fixed that 
it keeps its position. that would also keep the appearance clean

another Idea would be not to use single buttons on tiddlers but to drag 
them onto a "setting field" in the sidebar for example, or onto a button on 
the side, to add a designated setting to the tiddler.
with that Idea you could go further and apply actions and many other things.



Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 18:08:09 UTC+1 schrieb Diego Mesa:
>
> Hello BurningTreeC,
>
> I am very excited by your work on this! I think this will dramatically 
> increase usability, especially on mobile devices! As far as (dumb) ideas 
> go, maybe having a setting for 1, 2, 3, or 4 columns, and each tiddler then 
> has an appropriate button to make it take 1 more or 1 less column. Also, 
> pinning a tiddler.
>  
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 11:01:22 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> zooming and rotating makes it kinda messy right now :'(
>>
>> I need some time to sort all options out... meanwhile, anyone who finds 
>> this idea useful and some nice or stupid ideas?
>> the stupid ones are the best ones btw
>>
>> greets from snowy austria
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 14:31:55 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> I was playing around with this library
>>>
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> ... got a grid working inside tw:  http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/ *  
>>>  - But honestly, I don't know what I'm doing*
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I did a great mess initializing this, I'm a noob in javascript 
>>> and tw widgets ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any Ideas how to use this in a sane way?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

isn't this a case for a teamviewer session?

Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 11:03:57 UTC+1 schrieb Surya:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
>

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[tw] [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-20 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello there,

currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled storyview

it's based on the muuri widget by https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ 
which is based on https://github.com/haltu/muuri

it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
pinch-to-zoom



the code repository is on 
github: https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch


It's a *work in progress! * 

*And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
comment!*

A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

cheers, BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: What's the xmastiddle bringing?

2017-12-21 Thread BurningTreeC

:D this is interesting!

how can one imagine this miraculous metamorphosis?

the day before touching your screen did nothing and after this 
pre-christmas-wonder you have touch?

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 01:01:17 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Let me share an unsolicited Christmas gift I received yesterday, Some of 
> you my be very surprised.
>
> I am not so sure who gave it to me, was in HP or Microsoft on my Windows 
> 10 laptop?
>
> I needed to upgrade my laptop a few months ago, I was inclined to get a 
> touch screen model, but balked at the price, and most of the time I use it 
> as a desktop replacement with two additional large screens.
>
> I took the cheaper option *without *the touch screen but 16GB RAM, 256 
> SSD, I have being very happy with this laptop. Of note is if you spend more 
> you can get a HDD/SSD combination model. However I discovered in the 
> cheaper model I got there is a HDD slot I can move a 1TB SSD I have into, 
> in time that is my only upgrade option remaining. 
>
> Yesterday I had some urgent work and was delayed 40 minutes with various 
> windows updates, which was seriously annoying.
>
> Once all the updates completed I received my unexpected Christmas Gift, it 
> was unwrapped, but I only discovered it accidentally.
>
> Scroll down to see what the Christmas Gift was
>
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> *I got a touch screen on my existing laptop.*
>
> No, I am not joking, I reviewed the computer specifications to check, this 
> laptop did not come with a touch screen. But there it is, it is now a touch 
> screen.
>
> For the nostalgic amongst you, it is like an update reactivated the 
> co-processor in my cheaper CPU. In the days where intel nobbled the 
> co-processor unless you payed more.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, 18 December 2017 06:23:34 UTC+11, Ste Wilson wrote:
>>
>> As we approach the most tiddlery of times I wondered what would be 
>> filling your tiddlerstocking hanging over your nice regex fire? Don't 
>> forget to leave out some nice scotch for Jeremy. 
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-21 Thread BurningTreeC

Ciao Joshua,

it already mixes different widths ... i have a touch laptop, on such 
devices you can try it very well... zooming (with your fingers) on a 
tiddler makes him wider/smaller, from 1/5 story-width over 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 to 
full width.
alternatively, at the moment, you can set a field named "span" on a single 
tiddler. supported values are [2 - 12] where 12 is full width.
I'm gonna take a look at Thomas' work, saw it before but didn't have time 
to look closer. Thanks for the hint!

Best wishes,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 18:04:29 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC
>
> Seriously good!!! Clean design. Nice the base model echoes the visuality 
> of the original vanilla TW look.
>
> I wonder if it could also support tiddlers that are more than one column 
> wide mixed in with tiddlers a column wide?
>
> On better mobile look: some of what Thomas has just launched 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!topic/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ> 
> may be relevant. His approach handles menus very well.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3 
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview)
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... (aka Saying Succinctly What TW Is About ...)

2017-12-21 Thread BurningTreeC

TiddlyWiki is the answer to the question "is there a program that can do A) 
but that also lets you do B) and maybe C) and A) and B) at the same time?"

(although we know the real answer is 42)

Am Freitag, 7. April 2017 15:42:09 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> One of the vital things about #TiddlyWiki 
>  is it champions the 
> importance of the #AUTHOR.
>
> And yours ... ?
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: Bricks Demo – CSS Construction Set + Soft Redesign)

2017-12-22 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello Thomas, that's awesome, thanks a lot!

gonna try it out right now

kind regards,
Simon

Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2017 21:13:58 UTC+1 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:
>
> Dear members of the TW community,
>
> Over the last months you haven’t heard much from my side. And possibly I 
> will remain rather quiet for the weeks to come. The TW hours I could find 
> went mostly into this fancy project that has reached demo status now. I 
> release this as is, without warranties and with minimal documentation. I 
> would be very happy if some of you could find some time over the coming 
> weeks to try, test, report bugs and submit feedback of any kind.
>
> *Bricks*  is a set of utilities for 
> webdesigners using cascading stylesheets (CSS). It covers many aspects of 
> TiddlyWiki 5 (TW) and thus is especially useful if you wish to use your 
> skills for TW design. 
>
>
> Bricks Studio Equipment
>
> Bricks offers *a collection of stylesheets* for TiddlyWiki 5 introducing 
> a refreshingly cool but still familiar touch. Old and new styles are 
> rebased on definitions from tachyons.io wherever possible. Additional 
> tools:
>
>- Stylesheet Manager 
> – a 
>searchable list of stylesheets where you quickly create, edit, activate 
> and 
>deactivate stylesheet tiddlers. 
>   - Listreveal Plugin – a helper that makes listed tiddlers 
>   accessible and editable directly in the list.
>   *Important:* Version 0.3.1 in use here might not be backwards 
>   compatible.
>- Stylesheet Generator – speed up your wikis and compile your 
>collection of stylesheets into a static document, stripped from comments 
>and most line breaks. 
>
>
> Vanilla Ice Cream – a Soft Design Update
>
> The collection of style-related tiddlers delivered with *Bricks* has 
> revolutionary things under the hood:
>
>- clearly titled CSS tiddlers you can combine as you like – use only 
>as much code as necessary for your solution
>- mobile first design philosophy
>- variables for most things based on values from tachyons.io
>
> If this sounds interesting to you, visit 
> https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html for more info and let me know what 
> you think.
>
> Have a good time, explore and build – all the best for the days to come 
> and a happy 2018!
>
> Many thanks and kind regards,
> Thomas
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-23 Thread BurningTreeC

@Joshua

some of what Thomas has just launched 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!topic/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ> may 
> be relevant. His approach handles menus very well.
>

what was your idea there? I took a look inside and it's very cool and 
useful, but there's a lot of niceness... could you post a link or a 
screenshot?

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 18:04:29 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC
>
> Seriously good!!! Clean design. Nice the base model echoes the visuality 
> of the original vanilla TW look.
>
> I wonder if it could also support tiddlers that are more than one column 
> wide mixed in with tiddlers a column wide?
>
> On better mobile look: some of what Thomas has just launched 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!topic/tiddlywiki/qZyhuW3_UyQ> 
> may be relevant. His approach handles menus very well.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3 
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview)
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-25 Thread BurningTreeC

Merry Christmas to all!

I have some time now, and here are some muuri updates


   - There are new Buttons to try
  - enable/disable dragging
  - vertical/horizontal view
  - align tiddlers right/left
  - switch from muuri to tiddlywiki-view and vice versa
  - gaps filling behaviour on/off
  - ...
   - There are some variables to explore in $:/config/muuri


I've tested different things now

   - different widths for tiddlers
  - it's possible to set widths automatically based on the tiddler 
  height
  - atm zooming with two fingers makes tiddlers bigger/smaller in 
  defined steps
   - synchronizing the StoryList when dragging
  - works, I know where to hack and have it working somehow, but ...
  - dragging Tiddlers refreshes the StoryList, but because of muuri's 
  free sorting this doesn't behave like the user expects.
  - I need to figure out how to adjust muuri's sorting to have this 
  working good
  - this isn't online, if you're interested, I could update it on 
  tiddlyspot for a demo
   - providing the actionTiddler variable when dragging a Tiddler
  - should make possible to drag Tiddlers onto droppable widgets to 
  have some fun
   

This is it from me,
BurningTreeC

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] CSS - tc-tagged in edit-mode?

2017-12-26 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello folks,

Is there a way to assign css rules by tag also for the belonging draft 
Tiddler?

best wishes,
Simon

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[tw] Re: CSS - tc-tagged in edit-mode?

2017-12-26 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi PMario, thanks for your reply

I have tiddlers that have a width applied by tag. I'd like that they keep 
that style in edit-mode, too

It doesn't have to be by tag ... the tiddler already has a bunch of 
(computed) styles and transformations applied, that's why I'm trying to to 
it by tag



>_ Simon


Am Dienstag, 26. Dezember 2017 17:15:16 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>
> Hi Simon, 
>
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 4:28:42 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to assign css rules by tag also for the belonging draft 
>> Tiddler?
>>
>
> At the moment. .. no
>
> What do you try to achieve?
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-26 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATES:

There are a lot of new features and fixes to try out on 
http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

I've adopted the different views for mobile devices, I guess they need to 
be tested and refined

If you're interested, please test it and report here if you find some 
strange behaviour or if you have an idea how to make things differently, or 
just leave a comment if you like it :)

best wishes,
BurningTreeC

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Thanks for your input, Joshua

about the sidebar: have you seen the horizontal view? there the sidebar is 
sort of an overlay

I'm thinking about a setting for vertical view to have it fixed or like in 
horizontal view... yes, I'm making that, it's an instant plus



About portrait mode, that's on my todo list, I know, the widths are a bit 
disturbing.
I just don't know if I should use an additional media query like 
"orientation" or "device-aspect-ratio" or if I should go with min-width 
max-width media queries

I'll figure that out, suggestions welcome!

Thanks for your screens, they help!

salut, Simon

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 10:28:27 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC
>
> Looking good.
>
> Commenting on an earlier post you made to me about Thomas' CSS work that 
> is mobile friendly ... I was thinking most about his implementation of the 
> Sidebar Menu as a "SLIDE OVER" that does not force column narrowing where 
> you don't want it. The right side bar come in without changing the 
> dimensions of the story river.
>
> One other point. (Maybe I am unusual) I use my PC desktop a lot in 
> Portrait, not Landscape. And Muri works well except for titles that get a 
> bit stretched out at the font size. Its not so apparent in Landscape. Just 
> a comment. Couple of screen shots ...
>
>
>
>
>
> This is not so much a fault as a need to Alter Font Size on Orientation OR 
> (maybe) enforce reasonable Minimal Widths for Tiddlers?
>
> Some thoughts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah 
>
> On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:20:56 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> UPDATES:
>>
>> There are a lot of new features and fixes to try out on 
>> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> I've adopted the different views for mobile devices, I guess they need to 
>> be tested and refined
>>
>> If you're interested, please test it and report here if you find some 
>> strange behaviour or if you have an idea how to make things differently, or 
>> just leave a comment if you like it :)
>>
>> *works best on chromium, google chrome
>>
>> best wishes,
>> BurningTreeC
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>>> storyview
>>>
>>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the code repository is on github: 
>>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>>
>>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>>> add, comment!*
>>>
>>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> what's missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>>> span-3 
>>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>>needed, use tw css
>>>- a packed plugin
>>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>>> moving 
>>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
>>> muuri-storyview)  
>>>fixed
>>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>>   - question: how is that done?
>>>- ... more to come
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hi @Dave Gifford,
thank you!
do you find something useful about the whole concept?

kind regards,
Simon

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 15:02:51 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
http://www.giffmex.org/:
>
> WOW a lot of great stuff in there!
>
> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>> storyview
>>
>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>
>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>
>>
>>
>> the code repository is on github: 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>
>>
>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>
>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>> add, comment!*
>>
>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>>
>> what's missing?
>>
>>
>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>> span-3 
>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>needed, use tw css
>>- a packed plugin
>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>> moving 
>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
>> muuri-storyview)  
>>fixed
>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>   - question: how is that done?
>>- ... more to come
>>
>>
>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hi David, thanks a lot! Every comment helps

2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to find 
> a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>
this can easily be done with a stylesheet:

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle, 
.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-title-icon {
 display: none;
}

...hides title, subtitle and tiddler-title icon (if there is one)

4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used

thats just for demonstrating purposes in this demo site. they are all 
tiddlers where title, subtitle, tags and control buttons are hidden similar 
to the example to hide title, subtitle and icon.
the button just creates new tiddlers with a filter that filters all system 
images, applies a tag "sampletag" to each of them and opens them.

in a stylesheet there is:

.tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame .tc-title, .tc-tagged-sampletag 
.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-subtitle, .tc-tagged-sampletag .tc-tiddler-frame 
.tc-tiddler-title-icon ... ... ... and so on {
 display: none;
}
every tiddler with the tag "sampletag" then shows no title, subtitle, tag 
... they are just visually hidden. ".tc-tagged-" means: each tiddler with 
the tag that comes after ".tc-tagged-" should have this style.

This is just to have something to play with, to drag around, to be 
inspired. And an idea for a usecase, like an image gallery.

"this is so cool it needs to be showcased"

this is actually a plugin called "TiddlyWikiFormula" that's being developed 
these days and weeks and these are some examples he provides on the plugin 
page http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html
I think it's a great piece of work and it offers so many possibilities I'm 
getting a head-ache. It's not related with my little project.

For example, I have no idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my 
> access to a good portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic

This is a mess that's possible at the moment ... dragging worked better 
before, until I began working on something that's not finished. I don't 
like that, too and I'll fix it soon.

Thanks for the idea with the Button for more/less columns! That's a 
no-brainer and an instant plus. I'm gonna make one.

thanks for your reply and help!

best wishes,
Simon

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 19:29:10 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi BurningTreeC
>
> 1. I could see using this myself as a format for sharing quotes and 
> insights on a topic in a visually pleasing way.
> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to 
> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
> 3. I could see the horizontal menu being great for presentations or 
> tutorials, anything that is step-by-step or progressive in some way.
> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used. 
> Are those in fact tiddlers of the images? Yet they have no titlebar or 
> editing. And yet they can be dragged. Can you describe what is actually 
> happening? And use case - would it be for opening a gallery of images with 
> a given tag?
> 5. I don't know that I would use them myself, but the "this is so cool it 
> needs to be showcased" effects are really neat.
> 6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
> materials for others. It can get disorienting for end users when things 
> slide around and you wonder if you lost something. For example, I have no 
> idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my access to a good 
> portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
> 7. Maybe a button or dropdown to toggle the number of columns would be 
> nice, it that is a workable possibility?
>
> Anyway, this opens up some interesting possibilities. Thanks a bunch for 
> all your work on this.
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> Hi @Dave Gifford,
>> thank you!
>> do you find something useful about the whole concept?
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Simon
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 2

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

yes, that's easily doable in css with a stylesheet, no problem

6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
> materials for others

First, the MESS now is gone, I fixed it :)
#2: now if you drag Tiddlers around, the StoryList updates. That may help a 
little bit not to get lost
#3: there already is a button to disable dragging, every Tiddler has one in 
the top right corner and there is one for the pagecontrols, just check him 
in the control panel
#4: you can also disable dragging by changing "drag-enabled" in the 
"$:/config/muuri" tiddler to "no" - then you switch to tiddly view and back 
- and dragging is disabled. With the buttons it's easier, though
#5: the "fill-gaps" button toggles between two ways, muuri lays the 
Tiddlers on the screen. with fill-gaps enabled, tiddlers move more, because 
muuri tries to fill gaps and the sort-order changes more often because of 
that. with fill-gaps disabled there's less movement and less changes.

all the best,
Simon 

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 19:30:14 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Sorry, I meant reduce the side margins and bottom margins of the 
> *tiddlers*. Should have made that clearer.
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:28 PM, David Gifford  > wrote:
>
>> Hi BurningTreeC
>>
>> 1. I could see using this myself as a format for sharing quotes and 
>> insights on a topic in a visually pleasing way.
>> 2. I could see using it as a photo gallery, but I would probaby try to 
>> find a way to reduce the side and bottom margins, and even hide the tiddler 
>> title area, so that the tiddlers are pure photos with an edit menu on hover.
>> 3. I could see the horizontal menu being great for presentations or 
>> tutorials, anything that is step-by-step or progressive in some way.
>> 4. I am not sure I understand what exactly is happening when I click the 
>> button in the 'create a bunch of image tiddlers' or how it might be used. 
>> Are those in fact tiddlers of the images? Yet they have no titlebar or 
>> editing. And yet they can be dragged. Can you describe what is actually 
>> happening? And use case - would it be for opening a gallery of images with 
>> a given tag?
>> 5. I don't know that I would use them myself, but the "this is so cool it 
>> needs to be showcased" effects are really neat.
>> 6. I think I would probably also want a 'safe' version that is just 
>> scaffolding *without* the ability to drag or resize, for publishing 
>> materials for others. It can get disorienting for end users when things 
>> slide around and you wonder if you lost something. For example, I have no 
>> idea what I did to create this mess, which blocks my access to a good 
>> portion of the sidebar and looks chaotic.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>> 7. Maybe a button or dropdown to toggle the number of columns would be 
>> nice, it that is a workable possibility?
>>
>> Anyway, this opens up some interesting possibilities. Thanks a bunch for 
>> all your work on this.
>>
>> David Gifford
>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>
>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>> resonateglobalmission.org
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, BurningTreeC > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi @Dave Gifford,
>>> thank you!
>>> do you find something useful about the whole concept?
>>>
>>> kind regards,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017 15:02:51 UTC+1 schrieb Dave Gifford - 
>>> http://www.giffmex.org/:
>>>>
>>>> WOW a lot of great stuff in there!
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>>>>> storyview
>>>>>
>>>>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>>>>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>>>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>>>
>>>>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>>>>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmo

[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,

now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for your 
help!


I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
dropping a tiddler onto it.
I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
dragged around

I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
needed to trigger
If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be great 
and much appreciated!

kind regards,
BurningTreeC
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@David Grifford, don't they? :'D ... they should if I understand what you 
mean

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 15:37:57 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Cool! I am curious why the two and three column options don't expand to 
> fill the screen width as scaffolding usually does. But definitely a nice 
> feature. Thanks!
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> @David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,
>>
>> now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for your 
>> help!
>>
>>
>> I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
>> dropping a tiddler onto it.
>> I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
>> dragged around
>>
>> I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
>> needed to trigger
>> If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be 
>> great and much appreciated!
>>
>> kind regards,
>> BurningTreeC
>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>>> storyview
>>>
>>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>
>>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the code repository is on github: 
>>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>>
>>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>>> add, comment!*
>>>
>>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> what's missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>>> span-3 
>>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>>needed, use tw css
>>>- a packed plugin
>>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>>> moving 
>>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>>>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / 
>>> muuri-storyview)  
>>>fixed
>>>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>>>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>>>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>>>   - question: how is that done?
>>>- ... more to come
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers, BurningTreeC
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

oh, I see

that's because they should be two columns - three columns - 4 columns but 
they are too wide, so they don't show up side-by-side

there's only a bit of css tinkering that's missing. it's done in the 
"toggle muuri columns macro" tiddler. there's some calculation and I knew, 
I didn't get it totally right.
maybe you come up with something that works for you

kind regards

Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 16:42:42 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Here are my screenshots.
> [image: Inline image 1][image: Inline image 4][image: Inline image 3][image: 
> Inline image 2]
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
> *Resonate Global Mission*
> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
> resonateglobalmission.org
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:42 AM, BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> @David Grifford, don't they? :'D ... they should if I understand what you 
>> mean
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 28. Dezember 2017 15:37:57 UTC+1 schrieb David Gifford:
>>>
>>> Cool! I am curious why the two and three column options don't expand to 
>>> fill the screen width as scaffolding usually does. But definitely a nice 
>>> feature. Thanks!
>>>
>>> David Gifford
>>> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>>>
>>> *Resonate Global Mission*
>>> *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.*
>>> A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church
>>> resonateglobalmission.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM, BurningTreeC  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @David Grifford, @TiddlyTweeter,
>>>>
>>>> now there's a button to change columns, works very well, thanks for 
>>>> your help!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to have one last feature, triggering the droppable widget when 
>>>> dropping a tiddler onto it.
>>>> I have a JSON string that contains the tiddler title when Tiddlers are 
>>>> dragged around
>>>>
>>>> I believe there's not that much missing, but I'd need some Info what's 
>>>> needed to trigger
>>>> If there's someone who can provide me some short info, that would be 
>>>> great and much appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> kind regards,
>>>> BurningTreeC
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
>>>>> storyview
>>>>>
>>>>> it's based on the muuri widget by 
>>>>> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
>>>>> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>>>>>
>>>>> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
>>>>> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions 
>>>>> and pinch-to-zoom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the code repository is on github: 
>>>>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a *work in progress! * 
>>>>>
>>>>> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, 
>>>>> add, comment!*
>>>>>
>>>>> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on 
>>>>> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> what's missing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>>>>>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>>>>>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
>>>>> span-3 
>>>>>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>>>>>needed, use tw css
>>>>>- a packed plugin
>>>>>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>>>>>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>>>>>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
>>>>> moving 
>>>>>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>>>>>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>&g

[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

*An *alpha state *plugin *is now available on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

It's meant for you if you like tinkering and testing

If you get it, if you find a solution for something or some errors, I'd ask 
you to give a short feedback, that'd be great!


p.s. there's an error when dragging links with dragging switched on - 
switch it off to do that

I'm curious about your feedback,

best wishes,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,

you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!

get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval

and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the eval 
plugin work

though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
some lines...

I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
macro to your needs.

Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
<>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
<> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...

This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 


Math makes me head-aches ;)

best wishes,
Simon

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 08:57:33 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> It looks like "toggle colums" button doesn't work.
> I tried to install it on my and empty wiki but it just doesn't work.
>
>
>
>
> четверг, 28 декабря 2017 г., 23:55:16 UTC+3 пользователь BurningTreeC 
> написал:
>>
>> *An *alpha state *plugin *is now available on 
>> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> It's meant for you if you like tinkering and testing
>>
>> If you get it, if you find a solution for something or some errors, I'd 
>> ask you to give a short feedback, that'd be great!
>>
>>
>> p.s. there's an error when dragging links with dragging switched on - 
>> switch it off to do that
>>
>> I'm curious about your feedback,
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Jed Carty,

thanks! I there I tried to have the css in a macro and from the Stylesheet 
just call the macros. To have a cleaner Stylesheet that's easier to read 
and to change.

To have a fast working demo I used the eval plugin, but a little bit of 
tinkering will make it work with the available tw filters I guess

I don't know if I want everything in the Stylesheet, gets very complicated 
for me to keep everything clean and overviewable (if that's a word)
so that's an attempt for having a slightly different logic.

Also, I can generate repeating css stuff with simple lists through such a 
macro, had some difficulties doing this directly in the stylesheet

maybe there's no reason for that?

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 10:16:18 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> If you don't need everything in the eval plugin you may be able to just 
> use the css calc functions. 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/calc
>
> If you don't have a tiddlers type set to text/css than you can do 
> transclusions in the css styles and it works as expected.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@all,

someone willing to make/get/change/fix buttons (design, css, fit) that are 
used here?

also, which buttons should be kept, which aren't that useful - additions, 
changes, ideas?

saluti a tutti,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 07:04:51 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag&drop-enabled 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

TiddlyTouch/MuuriTouch (TWTiddlyMuuriTouch/TiddlyMuuriTouchWiki ... you get 
it) on BeakerBrowser

dat://02a707bf2147e9cee5665ca253e1f961ec491ece06657d3e4a1143520f594383

I'd like to experiment with this on beaker browser. You may be able to get 
the time right when it's on and I'm not at the end of the world like I am 
right now, with at-the-and-of-the-world internet speed.
Gonna change place soon to a place with more reliable speed.

What I'd like to see is (if there's interest in it) if this can be put 
forward together


cheers,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

interesting, works smoothless here on chrome, firefox and beaker

I've experienced that generally tw runs faster on my linuxes than my 
windowses

If this has something to do with the eval plugin itself ... I doubt a little

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 12:44:22 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> When I installed eval and math.js it started to work very slow. And it was 
> not so smooth. It's freezing a little bit every time when you click any 
> link. I'll try it to understand why this is happening.Or will change macro. 
>
>
> Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,
>>
>> you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
>> I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!
>>
>> get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval
>>
>> and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the 
>> eval plugin work
>>
>> though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
>> some lines...
>>
>> I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
>> Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
>> in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
>> macro to your needs.
>>
>> Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
>> may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
>> name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
>> <>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
>> <> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...
>>
>> This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
>> anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
>> tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 
>>
>>
>> Math makes me head-aches ;)
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

change the macro to this, should work. 

\define toggle-muuri-columns()
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!align-horizontal" type="nomatch" 
text="yes">
<$set name="columnCount" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
}
@media (min-width: 500px) {
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100% / <>) - 16px) !important;
}
}



<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!align-horizontal" type="match" text="yes">
<$set name="columnCount" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="computedWidth" filter="[eval[100 / <>]]">
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
}
@media (min-width: 500px) {
.tc-tiddler-frame, .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
min-width: calc((100vw - 84px) / <> - 16px) !important;
}
}




\end

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 12:44:22 UTC+1 schrieb Evgeniy Degtyar:
>
> When I installed eval and math.js it started to work very slow. And it was 
> not so smooth. It's freezing a little bit every time when you click any 
> link. I'll try it to understand why this is happening.Or will change macro. 
>
>
> Hello @Evgeniy Degtyar,
>>
>> you need the eval plugin by @tobibeer to have it work,
>> I forgot to mention that, thanks for pointing this out!
>>
>> get it here: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#eval
>>
>> and get also the math.js library on that site, it's needed to have the 
>> eval plugin work
>>
>> though, it's possible to have it work also without that plugin, changing 
>> some lines...
>>
>> I think that in the future the eval plugin will no more be a dependency. 
>> Right now, get it to have the columns working, or ... you can hack around 
>> in $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/macros and change the "toggle-muuri-columns" 
>> macro to your needs.
>>
>> Also, if you're experiencing that columns are not side-by-side (tiddlers 
>> may  be a little bit too wide), change a value in that line: <$set 
>> name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / <> + 16 / 
>> <>]]"> *to *<$set name="computedDiff" filter="[eval[84 / 
>> <> + *18 */ <>]]"> or something higher ...
>>
>> This calculation is not thought-out well, just a fast tinkering... if 
>> anyone finds a good solution for this calculation (the different 
>> tiddler-widths for 2, 3 and 4 columns) I'd appreciate :) 
>>
>>
>> Math makes me head-aches ;)
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Simon
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

... and the column button



\define columnicons()
<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]!regexp[2]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[2]]">
<>

\end
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="nomatch" text="">
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="nextValue" filter="[] +[next]">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$list filter="[!regexp[^4$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=<>/>
<$list filter="[regexp[^4$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=""/>
@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@
<$reveal state="$:/config/muuri!!column-count" type="match" text="">
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value="2"/>@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@



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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I've updated http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com

added licenses and removed eval dependencies

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

yes, that's something to decide

pinch zoom on tiddlers is meant to change their widths. that's done by 
applying a "span" class (span-2 span-3 span-4 span-6 span-9 span-12)
at the moment, this works only when set to 1

it's a missing implementation in the columns macro. it should generate also 
the widths for each span-class ... the classes are applied in either 
column-view

I just let column "1" not be influenced by this macro to still be able to 
pinch-zoom, but it should change so that then tiddlers fill the whole width

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 21:18:05 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> I really like the interface you have set up. The only thing I have found 
> that doesn't work the way I expect is changing the number of columns to 1 
> doesn't do anything. Changing to any other number works nicely.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

replace the button with this:

\define columnicons()
<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]!regexp[^2$]!regexp[^1$]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[^2$]]">
<>

<$list filter="[[$(columns)$]regexp[^1$]]">
<>

\end
<$set name="columns" value={{$:/config/muuri!!column-count}}>
<$set name="nextValue" filter="[] 
+[next[$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/Buttons/toggle-columns]]">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-toolbar-icon" tooltip="toggle columns">
<$list filter="[!regexp[^6$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value=<>/>
<$list filter="[regexp[^6$]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/config/muuri" $field="column-count" 
$value="1"/>
@@font-size:0.7rem;float:right;<>@@

*and put in the list field: 1 2 3 4 5 6*

then you'll have 6 columns to cycle through and 1 works as expected

Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 21:18:05 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> I really like the interface you have set up. The only thing I have found 
> that doesn't work the way I expect is changing the number of columns to 1 
> doesn't do anything. Changing to any other number works nicely.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Updates:


   - the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
   - 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
   icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks .. 
   fingers crossed)
   - eval plugin not needed anymore

Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom set 
different widths for all possible columns
The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
change

After that, I'll address things like

   - StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
   quick fix
   - stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
   - reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
   - ?

If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)

greets from cold Austria,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: Condition: An if-else plugin for wikitext

Hello Evan,

This is *great*,
with your additions you're addressing lots of problems I'm facing right now

Thanks for your efforts and contributions!

I'd very much like to see this in the core, is there a chance?

kind regards,
Simon

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 06:54:54 UTC+1 schrieb Evan Balster:
>
> Introducing the *condition* plugin.  (Version 0.1 attached, docs included)
>
> It provides *$if*, *$else* and *$else-if* widgets that choose whether to 
> show or hide their contents based on simple text conditions.  It pairs well 
> with my formula plugin  and 
> its default "truthy" conditions handle boolean values.
>
> As compared with the closely-related *$reveal* widget, conditions are 
> simpler, behave more like *$list*, and can be executed as a chain.  They 
> don't retain contents or animate, and can be based on variables, filtered 
> or transcluded attributes rather than just state tiddlers.
>
> The *$else* and *$else-if* widgets have some special uses, depending on 
> what they're placed after...
>
>- After a* $list* widget, it will display when the list is empty.
>- After a *$reveal* widget, it will display when the former's contents 
>are hidden.
>- After an *$if* or *$else-if*, it will display only when earlier 
>conditions were all false.
>
> This was a quick evening project, so it could have bugs.  Please test and 
> remark here if you find any issues.  Future versions will probably live in 
> the Formulas project.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Updates:
>
>
>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks .. 
>fingers crossed)
>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>
> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom set 
> different widths for all possible columns
> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
> change
>
> After that, I'll address things like
>
>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>quick fix
>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>- ?
>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin? 
>shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>
> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>
> greets from cold Austria,
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw] Re: Condition: An if-else plugin for wikitext

Thanks Evan,

I'll test it later on and will report back

Fingers crossed for the architects having a heart for this

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 08:08:49 UTC+1 schrieb Evan Balster:
>
> Hey, Simon —
>
> with your additions you're addressing lots of problems I'm facing right 
>> now.  Thanks for your efforts and contributions!
>
>  
> I'm solving similar problems.  :)  Happy to share.
>
> I'd very much like to see this in the core, is there a chance?
>>
>
> That comes down to how TiddlyWiki's architects feel about it.  Previous 
> discussions about $if widgets like the one here concluded that they would 
> likely be redundant with $reveal.  For my part, though, I see $if playing a 
> fairly different role:  Lightweight, value-oriented and $list-like as 
> compared to the feature-rich, state-oriented $reveal widget...  The $else 
> widget is something else entirely, with its unusual sibling-based behavior.
>
> Anyway, I'll be interested to see how this flies with Jeremy and the 
> others.  Keep an eye out for bugs.
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:02:05 UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello Evan,
>>
>> This is *great*,
>> with your additions you're addressing lots of problems I'm facing right 
>> now
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts and contributions!
>>
>> I'd very much like to see this in the core, is there a chance?
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Simon
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 06:54:54 UTC+1 schrieb Evan Balster:
>>>
>>> Introducing the *condition* plugin.  (Version 0.1 attached, docs 
>>> included)
>>>
>>> It provides *$if*, *$else* and *$else-if* widgets that choose whether 
>>> to show or hide their contents based on simple text conditions.  It pairs 
>>> well with my formula plugin 
>>> <http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html> and its default 
>>> "truthy" conditions handle boolean values.
>>>
>>> As compared with the closely-related *$reveal* widget, conditions are 
>>> simpler, behave more like *$list*, and can be executed as a chain.  
>>> They don't retain contents or animate, and can be based on variables, 
>>> filtered or transcluded attributes rather than just state tiddlers.
>>>
>>> The *$else* and *$else-if* widgets have some special uses, depending on 
>>> what they're placed after...
>>>
>>>- After a* $list* widget, it will display when the list is empty.
>>>- After a *$reveal* widget, it will display when the former's 
>>>contents are hidden.
>>>- After an *$if* or *$else-if*, it will display only when earlier 
>>>conditions were all false.
>>>
>>> This was a quick evening project, so it could have bugs.  Please test 
>>> and remark here if you find any issues.  Future versions will probably live 
>>> in the Formulas project.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

!! cool thought!

:)

I guess that would work, do you want to hack it?

Simon

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TonyM,

see the sidebar on the plugin page,

works nicely

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TonyM,

did you mean just changing the width or scaling the whole thing?

Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>
> Just a thought
>
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Updates:
>>>
>>>
>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of material 
>>>icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if nothing breaks 
>>> .. 
>>>fingers crossed)
>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>
>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>> change
>>>
>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>
>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ... 
>>>quick fix
>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
>>>- ?
>>>- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in 
>>>plugin? shows up only when red ... very useful for me, how about you?
>>>
>>> If you find other things to be addressed, please report :)
>>>
>>> greets from cold Austria,
>>> BurningTreeC
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread BurningTreeC

@TonyM,

no offense, but a reasoning

you gotta see the actual state and what's doable at the moment. your 
suggestions are pretty good but are jumping some steps ahead.
I've already given some thoughts to zooming tiddlers - the option to open 
in a new page can be something that you can implement easily with a bit of 
your own tinkering.

At the moment this has no priority but I may come back to it later on.
If you can provide some informations what's not working on your browser, 
that'd be a useful feedback

as said in a post before, there are some things I'm addressing now, they 
have priority and the things built on top of that then will only profit and 
make it easier to implement your own stuff

On a later point, I'm gonna come back to your ideas,

kind regards,
Simon

Am Sonntag, 31. Dezember 2017 00:46:15 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC
>
> Sorry for the delayed response. Yes a slide bar like you showed, at 
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com 
> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmuritest.tiddlyspot.com&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE-toVIm5P9Nbe8YCy9_EvEUp_NRw>?
>  
> (not working for me in Chrome, or firefox) effectivly just a drag-able 
> version 
> of your toggle columns, but where is it best placed?, I wonder if a 
> vertical one on the left hand side icons would work?.
>
> My idea was for tiddlywiki to behave as normal until the columns are 
> changed from 1 into using the muuri layout. However at present the side 
> bar is not behaving as in a standard tiddlywiki (widths and overlay 
> etc...), although the idea of allowing a "flyover" sidebar is a good idea 
> it would be nice to toggle it.
>
> Don't take my suggestions too seriously as I have only being lurking, 
> watching the progress of your plugin. It is however my feeling that it 
> would not be unreasonable to add this kind of functionality into the core 
> UI, after all tiddlywiki is all about tiddlers and using multi-column 
> responsive tiles, Kanban views, alternative story views and tabs are all 
> just different ways of showing off tiddlers and extend tiddlywiki's 
> applications from presentations, to whiteboards, project tools and 
> dashboards.
>
> To me murri seems suited to providing a multiple tiddler dashboard, or if 
> we had a button or click to open a tiddler into full screen from all those 
> in a tilled view it would be a great way to jump between slides in a 
> working presentation.
>
> For the desktop I wonder if we could open the Murri view in a new window 
> with the selected tiddler opening in the original story view?
>
> From me, Just some not well informed speculation,
>
> But thanks for your work, it looks great.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:55:44 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> @TonyM,
>>
>> did you mean just changing the width or scaling the whole thing?
>>
>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 11:17:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>>>
>>> BurningTreeC,
>>>
>>> Would a column-count 1-N with a little slide bar, work like Zoom in and 
>>> Out, with 0 or 1 representing no tiling?
>>>
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:49:48 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about making the column-count user-configurable, thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017 07:16:21 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>>>
>>>>> Updates:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- v0.0.4 *alpha* on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>>>>>- the button to cycle through columns now works as users expect
>>>>>- 6 columns now (the limiting factor is just the number of 
>>>>>material icons available. one can easily have 1000 columns ;) if 
>>>>> nothing 
>>>>>breaks .. fingers crossed)
>>>>>- eval plugin not needed anymore
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm going to work on the Stylesheet and macros to have pinch-zoom 
>>>>> set different widths for all possible columns
>>>>> The Stylesheet gets an overhaul and gets cleaned up to use my 
>>>>> macro-css-logic ... I'll put comments inside to make it easy for users to 
>>>>> change
>>>>>
>>>>> After that, I'll address things like
>>>>>
>>>>>- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes 
>>>>>... quick fix
>>>>>- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
>>>>>

[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2017-12-31 Thread BurningTreeC

Thanks, @TonyM!

I wish all of you a good new year 2018, here it's 9 hours away.
Read you next year!

Best wishes,
Simon

Am Sonntag, 31. Dezember 2017 13:29:21 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> No offence,
>
> All I hope to do is share ideas and vision, I understand how this is a 
> community and you will deliver what you want when you can.
>
> Good work so far, we recognise your effort, and support your direction.
>
> I am available for testing, support and in time a lot more.
>
> Great stuff
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread BurningTreeC

New year new updates,

Hi everyone!

- StoryList sync when dragging - not working correctly sometimes ...
quick fix
- stupid fade-in animation on tiddler titles
- reset of applied tiddler-widths ... not-so-quick fix
- this is something that's going to be addressed on a later point -
have to figure out which way to go
- include invisible save-wiki button in bottom-left corner in plugin ...
theres a tiddler now that holds various additions and contributions to get
if one likes

There's something new on the page, the muuri widget is getting modified to
accept user parameters
You can make your own grids with draggable elements
You will be able to store them as lists in fields so that reordering saves
their position

Another thing I'm interested in is this:
https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/zPVBLq

one could drag elements from one grid to the other. the second link shows
how elements get copied to the second grid ...

I'm still trying to figure out how to trigger droppable widgets, if someone
knows something about that and wouldn't mind to share, I'd offer a beer!

best wishes to all and happy new year,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-01 Thread BurningTreeC

@Dave Grifford,

thanks! that's true, it's the same like one is used with closing windows. I 
changed it on the site.

@TonyM,

that's a very cool discovery! I made an optional setting for that in the 
new settings tab for the control panel

all the best,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@everyone,

what do you think about mobile view?

   - how could/should the interface be
   - where to put the sidebar
   - how to handle dragging with less space available
   - how to handle scrolling
   - ...

kind regards,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

hi, @Ste Wilson

I think I'll make an option to switch to the right, that's good

For zooming I've seen you need some power under the hood, doesn't work well 
on my sony z3compact, too
But those new pricy phones in the electronics stores work better... in 
landscape mode.
In portrait mode i find it pretty useless.
Tablets and laptops with touch work pretty good, though
looks really good on an ipad pro for example
(yeah, was in a local store and tried the site on multiple devices ;D )

thanks for your feedback,
I'm gonna work on mobile css to make it better

best wishes,
Simon

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 12:34:26 UTC+1 schrieb Ste Wilson:
>
> I keep accessing this on my phone... 
> Scrolling has been ok as the tool bar area on the left can be reliably 
> used for that. An option to switch to the right would be nice. 
>
> The pinch and zoom/ moving things around functionality doesn't seem to 
> work very well on my phone. 
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

thanks Josiah,

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 13:47:34 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>
>>- how could/should the interface be
>>
>> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 
>
Have you seen the new sidebar in new window? there's a currently 
nasty-named tab where you can edit tiddlers that are present in the story 
directly in that window.

Would that be something for mobile view, too?

One could put a media query in the stylesheet and

.tc-story-river .tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
display: none !important;
}

So if you edit tiddlers they hide in the story and only show up in the 
sidebar to edit

>
>>- where to put the sidebar
>>
>> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
> minimal line at screen top?
>
Yes, another way to do it. how do you hover with your fingers? something 
like a slide-down thing?

Right now on smartphones in portrait mode the sidebar should be shown at 
the top, like a dropdown. I'm thinking about making the sidebar a popup 
that closes if you click outside. 

>
> My thinking is that mobile usage needs to avoid over complex menus and 
> concentrate on basic functions. Frankly I find the full sidebar (on desktop 
> seen ALONGSIDE the river) is not really optimal for most average size 
> smartphones. Much of it is overkill on a phone. The problem here is, I 
> think, not just about how to get it working sweetly, its also about WHAT is 
> shown.
>
I also think so

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

oh, yes! I could easily make this happen, I've already thought about that 
and successfully tried recognizing multiple taps. Inside muuri (thanks to 
hammer.js) you can recognize doubleclicks, tripleclicks, quadrupleclicks, 
long press, swipes ... see: http://hammerjs.github.io/recognizer-tap/

that's also possible on mobile devices because that functionality comes 
with the plugin

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:00:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>> how could/should the interface be
>>
>
> I'm not sure if mobiles support it but DOUBLE-TAP to edit could be neat 
> way to improve screen estate. Daniello made a double-click to edit a 
> tiddler a long time ago. Its very useful when you want to reduce screen 
> icons as much as possible.
>
> FWIW Danielo's plugin is here: 
> https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-2click2edit/
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

I made it a setting in the ControlPanel, things like this are no problem 
and easy to make configurable

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:20:55 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>
>>- how could/should the interface be
>>
>> This is a general comment about the use of VERTICAL ICONS in Tiddler. The 
> problem is space sometimes. The menu goes on ...
>
> To take a real use case. I write weird Tiddlers that get Tweeted like 
> this: "#Crusoe likes that Crusoe likes Crusoe. Crusoe is not so sure Crusoe 
> is so sure."  The problem is my brief style means the text truncates before 
> the menu finishes.
>
> I think, overall, that the horizontal menu could still work better. But, 
> of course, on narrowing, one may hit a limit too with too many icons. 
>
> This is more a design puzzle issue than asking you to change anything. *Its 
> just a comment.*
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@all,

be aware, at the moment in mobile portrait view tiddlers disappear from the 
storyriver when you edit them.
they show up in the sidebar and appear again in the storyriver when you 
leave editing
it's meant to test how having a second window with just the sidebar works

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

:) maybe it didn't work last time you tried because I currently disabled it 
for the toggle-columns-button overhaul

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:41:38 UTC+1 schrieb Ste Wilson:
>
> Don't know what you have done but the pinch zoom resizing thing now works 
> on my phone :)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 15:17:45 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> what do you think about mobile view?
>>>>
>>>>- how could/should the interface be
>>>>
>>>> @TiddlyTweeter: 
>
>> IMO better you don't see any menus till you need them 
>>>
>>  
>
>> Have you seen the new sidebar in new window? there's a currently 
>> nasty-named tab where you can edit tiddlers that are present in the story 
>> directly in that window.
>>
>
> I looked at QUICKIES. Its a neat system for editing shorter posts ad hoc. 
> Definitely a plus in some use cases. Not so sure on the transparency of the 
> editor. If you not familiar with TW that might be a bit disorientating.
>

there's a button to change the transparency - you can set no transparency. 
it just has a nice effect when dragging and let's you keep an overview of 
what's below when you open the sidebar. But as standard setting, I also 
think no transparency is best. The button I'm talking about is not in the 
plugin but on the site under community additions (last tiddler in river I 
think)

>  
>
>> Would that be something for mobile view, too?
>>
>
> I think with the right design concept it could BE THE access route to the 
> editor INCLUDING new Tiddler authoring. Especially on mobiles!  
>

I love this sidebar in a window. I'm trying to figure out if we can switch 
back with a button. 

>
>
>>>- where to put the sidebar
>>>
>>> One thought. A drop down at TOP when you hover into a few pixel high 
>> minimal line at screen top?
>>
>  
>
>> Yes, another way to do it. how do you hover with your fingers? something 
>> like a slide-down thing?
>>
>
> YES.
>

yeah, swipe-recognition ... tried it once and gave up soon because other 
things were more important. at a later point I could see what I can do. 
Before this, I want to clean up the code and get other things done, so this 
is a when-it's done feature. 

>  
>
>> Right now on smartphones in portrait mode the sidebar should be shown at 
>> the top, like a dropdown. I'm thinking about making the sidebar a popup 
>> that closes if you click outside.
>>
>
> That could work too. The issue is visual semantics, I think. Pop-ups 
> usually relate to some content popped from. But no reason to slavishly 
> follow that. But maybe a full screen would do as well with an auto-close on 
> action? Just thoughts.
>

the tiddler-info area is a popup - technically. so, a button on top in 
mobile view that drops the sidebar down from above, height maybe 40% - 45% 
relative to the screen-height so there's space below to see tiddlers. 
I think there could be an option to choose between new window and 
dropdown-style

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> best wishes,
Simon 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin


>
>
>>
> the tiddler-info area is a popup - technically. so, a button on top in 
> mobile view that drops the sidebar down from above, height maybe 40% - 45% 
> relative to the screen-height so there's space below to see tiddlers. 
> I think there could be an option to choose between new window and 
> dropdown-style
>
GOTCHA! The option is already there 

>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TiddlyTweeter, thanks!

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 15:56:39 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> New year new updates
>>
>
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Muuri WITHIN Muuri is exactly right.
>
> As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
>

I didn't realize that that was a good thing, I can put that back on if 
there's interest. It's an easy hack but yes, more impressive with this 
storyview than the classic tiddlywiki view.
I have something like a "magic tiddly button" coming up that should be able 
to perform actions like that one but with selectables to choose from a 
catalogue of widgets and a set of actions.
There could also be a tiddler that holds contributions of community 
members, so that they get accessable for all in one place.
The "populate storyview with images" action could be one 

>  
>
>
> *This gadget is in a different league. Its brilliant.*
>
> Your biggest problem is likely going to be explaining it once you get out 
> of alpha :-).
>

I'm not thinking about that right now, but when it comes to that point I 
guess I'll make a nice demonstration wiki with a bit of easy documentation.
It's not that much as it seems - tricky, but not magic. I'm good at 
explaining so they say

>  
> Great appreciation
>

thank you very much 

> Josiah
>

all the best,
Simon 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

*about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*

it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the processes 
in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't directly 
trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click "edit" in the 
sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back to the sidebar 
to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a way, if not then 
I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar.

on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it works 
great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be right 
there in the sidebar I think.

this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes

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Re: [tw] Re: Does tiddlyspot work with TW 5 ?

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 14:59:40 UTC+1 schrieb vayira:
>
> I've now tried with Ffox, Chrome & Tiddlydesktop but nothing gets 
> uploaded. 
>
> I put in the password etc in the local file & hit the save button. A 
> message "starting to save tw" comes up & that's it. 
>
> Have I understood it right in thinking the tw should be saved both locally 
> on my drive & remotely on the server? 
>

Hi, vayira
if the  "Wiki Name" field is NOT EMPTY and you hit the save-wiki button, 
then it gets uploaded.
if the field is empty then it saves locally.
It doesn't do both at the same time

>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin



Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 18:02:00 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> *about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*
>
> it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the 
> processes in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't 
> directly trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click 
> "edit" in the sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back 
> to the sidebar to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a 
> way, if not then I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar and a 
> fullscreen solution for editing a tiddler.
>
> on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it works 
> great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be right 
> there in the sidebar I think.
>
> this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
> have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes
>

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[tw] Re: A Song for the Joy of It

Elina Garanca & Anna Netrebko, Flower 
Duet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 20:27:14 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Jodlerklub Wiesenberg & Francine Jordi mit Das Feyr vo dr Sehnsucht 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pY0xb9PrbY
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-03 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi @TonyM,

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 23:43:55 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> BurningTreeC,
>
> The open in new window is excellent for Desktop, especially in my three 
> screen office setting, And in two screen presentations be it standard 
> tiddlywiki or murri boards.
>

yes, it has something. do you have some ideas about this? editing tiddlers 
opens them in the new-window-sidebar, too. is that something desired, a 
toggle button in the sidebar maybe? 

>
> truth is its value on mobile is dodgy, Instead it would be nice if someone 
> (not necessarily yourself) could build  a generic solution on tiddlywiki 
> somewhat slimier to Open in new window where a tiddler could be opened in 
> top/bottom/left right slide out positions, perhaps even if tagged just as 
> we currently have.
>
>- $:/tags/TopLeftBar 
>
> <http://127.0.0.1:8088/Local-Instances/Core.html#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FTopLeftBar>
>- $:/tags/TopRightBar 
>
> <http://127.0.0.1:8088/Local-Instances/Core.html#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FTopRightBar>
>- $:/tags/AboveStory 
>
> <http://127.0.0.1:8088/Local-Instances/Core.html#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FAboveStory>
>- $:/tags/BelowStory 
>
> <http://127.0.0.1:8088/Local-Instances/Core.html#%24%3A%2Ftags%2FBelowStory>
>
>
interesting, I'm not gonna do that but as you say, someone who's interested 
could do something like that
 

> Executed carefully the mouse would open it in desktop and swipe from off 
> screen would open the tagged tiddler on mobile.
>
> Rather than pack too many features in the one plugin this could complement 
> murri but also help mobile first tiddlywikis, as well as building quick 
> menus (which I have always felt lacking in tiddltywiki.
>
> *If anyone thinks they can do this and its a worthy project please contact 
> me and I can help you develop it, at least from a functional design 
> perspective.*
>
> I  murris case a Left had slide out menu, a righthand slide out SideBar 
> and a dropdown wikimenu would be fabulous.
>

I'm trying to adopt this for mobile 
view: http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
It's great and very clean and the creator has put a lot of work into it, 
looks very stable.


> PS I think the choice of menus and interaction on mobiles should try and 
> follow widely known mobile design standards, I expect some in the community 
> would be familiar with these.
>
> Such a tool would complement your solution well.
>
> Food for thought
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, 3 January 2018 04:02:00 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> *about the sidebar in new window on mobile devices*
>>
>> it seems that android or the mobile browser in my case limits the 
>> processes in the background so that the sidebar in a new window doesn't 
>> directly trigger actions in the story river and vice versa. if i click 
>> "edit" in the sidebar window i have to switch to the story window and back 
>> to the sidebar to have the edit tiddler open. I'll find out if there's a 
>> way, if not then I'll go with the dropdown thing for the sidebar and a 
>> fixed full-height full-width solution for editing tiddlers.
>>
>> on desktop browsers this limit doesn't exist as far as I know and it 
>> works great. The switch to turn editing in the sidebar on/off should be 
>> right there in the sidebar I think.
>>
>> this is very useful for notetaking - it's a bit like onenote's feature to 
>> have "quick note" on the left/right while working on other programs/notes
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-03 Thread BurningTreeC

Hello community!

I've put an updated version online (v0.0.10)

it's focus is pinch-zoom on tiddlers to set different widths. If you like 
testing, please do so, I'd be thankful if you give me a short report if you 
find errors or strange behaviour

The tiddlers now should preserve their widths you set when zooming, also 
after dragging and after reloading the wiki (if you have a testing wiki 
with the plugin)

I don't know if I should make a small indicator ( a dot or so.. ) on 
tiddlers that have fixed widths that's clickable to remove the fixed width

cheers, BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: A Song for the Joy of It

2018-01-03 Thread BurningTreeC

there you go with some music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdHK_r9RXTc

Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018 20:27:14 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Jodlerklub Wiesenberg & Francine Jordi mit Das Feyr vo dr Sehnsucht 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pY0xb9PrbY
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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread BurningTreeC

UPDATE: now there's a testing version online that works better. still I
don't know if it works stable in regard of zooming.

there's no packed plugin right now, just the preview version

please leave a comment if you test it and it doesn't make sense to you, and
if it does, please leave a comment, too ;)

there's a new button on the tiddlers that's meant to reset the applied
widths that get set when you pinch-zoom on tiddlers. This button could be a
simple dot in the top left corner for example. now I'd just focus on
function and if it's useful.

the toggle columns button resets applied widths by pinch-zoom. I think
that's more what one expects when toggling through columns.

I could make a "backup" of applied widths while toggling throug columns and
the before mentioned "reset button" could be two-state, so that he also can
reset a backed-up width.

I'm curious what you think about this whole functionality, it surely has to
be refined and debugged.

kind regards,
BurningTreeC

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-04 Thread BurningTreeC

Ciao @TiddlyTweeter,

I've put the auto-populate thing back on the page, now it generates images 
that open a modal

Now muuri is able to store the ordering of grids in lists, there are two 
simple demos on the page if you switch to classic storyview

working on refinements,
all the best,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2018 12:32:00 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Simon,
>
> @TiddlyTweeter:
>
>> As was your previous demo of auto-populate muuri Tiddlers with images
>>
>
> @BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize that that was a good thing, I can put that back on if 
>> there's interest. It's an easy hack but yes, more impressive with this 
>> storyview than the classic tiddlywiki view.
>
>
> I think its VERY useful to see a few examples of how to AUTO-POPULATE.
>
> For instance I have a *use case* I'm slowly working on to create *image 
> galleries*. 
>
> The muuri within a muuri tiddler could be a great way forward on that.  
> (1) you auto-populate a tiddler with thumbnails (all external small image 
> files; some variant sizes, some portrait, some landscape); (2) drag-n-drop 
> to get a pleasing layout; (3) when you click in a thumbnail a MODAL opens 
> to display the full image. I think the muuri approach could be brilliant 
> for supporting that in an easier way than was the case before.
>
> Seeing code that does the populating is really useful for users like me 
> who are not so technically minded but can copy and paste code and change a 
> few values to get it to do what I need.
>
> Just an example
> Best wishes
>  
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hello Jan,
thank you very much,

kudos should also go to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ who made 
the plugin my hacks are built on

could you describe when the red screens happen on your firefox? it's been a 
while that I tried it on other browsers than chromium

a known issue is, that dragging links can cause something with "cannot set 
effectAllowed of undefined" - that's because my hammer.js dragging and 
tiddlywiki dragging are not best friends at the moment


For the hammer.js library you'd like to use - do you just want permission 
to grab it - you have my go it's OSS you can get it on github - or do you 
need something more?
What do you mean by swipe gesture? Right now, there's no swipe gesture 
implemented.
There are different recognizers inside hammer - dragging, pinch/zoom, 
tapping, swipe, press, ... see 
here: http://hammerjs.github.io/getting-started/
In my demo there's the Pan and the Pinch recognizer working

kind regards,
Simon

Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 12:55:45 UTC+1 schrieb Jan:
>
> Hi BurningTree
> A great job you did there. The gridview is a very useful feature. 
> I would be especially keen to use the hammer.js library you implemented. I 
> would love to have the swipe gesture it also could procure for my own 
> purposes.
> Can I use or configure it somehow?
>
> Yours Jan
>
> One minor bug. Muri show two red screens on my firefox but works fine with 
> safari and chrome.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@TiddlyTweeter,

you're welcome!
it was a quick thing, I have everything backed up, just copy-paste

what you say about modals is true - having an overview inside the grid and 
a big picture with a modal is a fine thing

have you seen the magic tiddly button on the page? do you get where this 
wants to go and what do you think about it


best wishes,
Simon

Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2018 17:34:57 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao Simon
>
> Thank you very much for making time to do that.
>
> BTW, in design terms I think modals fit well with gridded layouts, 
> especially for showing imagery.
>
> Anyway that auto-populate with modal invoke really helps me get a next 
> step. Grazie mille!
>
> Josiah
>
> Ciao BurningTreeC wrote ...
>
> I've put the auto-populate thing back on the page, now it generates images 
>> that open a modal
>>
>> Now muuri is able to store the ordering of grids in lists, there are two 
>> simple demos on the page if you switch to classic storyview
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

This is cool!

thank you for sharing, I appreciate your work

all the best,
Simon

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

Hello Jan,

what version of firefox are you using? are you on windows osx or mac? is 
this happening on muritest.tiddlyspot.com or do you have a testing wiki 
where you put the plugin inside?

the currently used plugin version is not packed, there are some shadow 
tiddlers that have changed. if you get the plugin right now you get it 
without those changes and it may be that there's a typo somewhere or an 
inconsistent state.

I'm going to pack it with the actual state which seems to be the best til 
now. so if you want to hack on it, I'm gonna call it 0.0.12 - wait until 
that version is online, that's the current state

For the swiping gestures, if you like we can try to hack on it a bit. I 
could make a tiddlyspot wiki for that and leave some infos there where to 
look into.

What do you think?

best wishes,
Simon

Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2018 03:14:30 UTC+1 schrieb Jan:
>
> Hi Simon, with pleasure
>
> below you will find the two errorscreens it shows. They can be closed but 
> the effect in my firefox is that all Tiddlers are stacked one over the 
> other in the same place, as well as the images.
> The touch effect in you implemented is great...i could not find that on 
> the material side.
>
> As I told you I would like to swipe to move forward or backward or show 
> the menu. The pinching and twisting possible in your demonstration is a 
> great UserExperience. I like it best before it snaps to the grid.  I would 
> love to have a view in TW where it is possible to arrange Tiddlers 
> arbitrarily. Jeremy did Test called cecily 
> https://jermolene.com/cecily/index.html which aimed to establish 
> this...it survived  here https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/introduction/ 
> but theres no way to save cecily views. Perhaps this libray could make this 
> possible.
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
> Internal JavaScript Error 
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> TypeError: Muuri is not a constructor
> Internal JavaScript Error 
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> Syntax error in boot module $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/lib/muuri.js:4303: 
> _boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21769:8 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute/sandbox.require@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22005:12 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:19:15 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:10:1 
> @$:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/widgets/muuri.js:1:106 
> _boot/$tw.utils.evalGlobal@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21774:9 
> _boot/$tw.modules.execute@http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22058:5 
> _boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType/<@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22098:18 _boot/$tw.utils.each@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:21404:12 
> _boot/$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22097:2 _boot/$tw.modules.applyMethods@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22121:2 
> Widget.protot...@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:50:36  
> Wid...@$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:27:3  
> exports...@$:/core/modules/startup.js:95:20  
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23398:5 
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12 
> _boot/$tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23402:12 _boot/$tw.boot.startup@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23355:2 _boot/$tw.boot.boot/<@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23508:3 
> _boot/$tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:22700:3 _boot/$tw.boot.boot@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23506:2 _boot@
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23515:2 @
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/:23525:2 
>
>
> Am 05.01.2018 um 15:42 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello Jan,
> thank you very much,
>
> kudos should also go to https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ who 
> made the plugin my hacks are built on
>
> could you describe when the red screens happen on your firefox? it's been 
> a while that I tried it on other browsers than chromium
>
> a known issue is, that dragging links can cause something with "cannot set 
> effectAllowed of undefined" - that's because my hammer.js dragging and 
> tiddlywiki dragging are not best friends at the moment
>
>
> For the hammer.js library you'd like to use - do you just want permission 
> to grab it - you have my go it's OSS you can get it on github - or do you 
> need something more?
> What do you mean by swipe gesture? Right now, there's no swipe gesture 
> implemented.
> There are different recogni

[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

@Jan,

http://hammer-it.tiddlyspot.com/

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